Is it odd that I am more excited about you liking steven universe over broad city, than I am about you liking True Detective even more the second time around? (then again I already knew that about True Detective, it's just one of those shows that works that way)
 
also finished watching the first season of Silicon Valley: wasn't sure how good it was going to be, but every single episode I watched genuinely surprised me at how good it was.
 
They are pretty good at writing characters that don't relate to most people in general, in favor of them relating to you personally. (and not in a sitcom-y way either) If you are prone to calling shows like Workaholics or Broad City as "basic", I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions of a show like this.

I think ur dad was in episode 5 of true detective.

yeah I dunno about BC. being on CC probably has something to do with being accessible, but even what I've seen of their webseries had parts I didn't like so much. I guess they're in their early 20s or something so they've got room.

They are pretty good at writing characters that don't relate to most people in general, in favor of them relating to you personally. (and not in a sitcom-y way either) If you are prone to calling shows like Workaholics or Broad City as "basic", I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions of a show like this.

I know it's by mike judge and has kumail, andy daly and zach woods. they can all be funny ppl, maybe I'll check it out!

what I've seen of andrew daly's Review is pretty good too

who is queen shithead? I never watched an episode past the first but I've seen about 20 minutes worth of clips on youtube. I think I've got the gist of it because I can talk about it with fans who have seen every episode. there's really a lot of rape in it huh? that's what it seems like to someone in my position at least

earl if you haven't seen game of thrones cherish that, that's rare innocence and you're probably gonna watch it for other reasons later along the lines of 'well every fucking person is talking about this i guess i'll check out the first ep' and then you're in and dang. it's the most beautiful and professionally produced gross shit ever basically. and it gets worse from what i know of the book spoilers. SPOILER: cersei goes on a naked walk of disgrace and they're actually gonna film that. lena headey was warned about it when she was cast and she said okay sure, but dang.
 
it's got a lot of good elements, which makes it worse. i pretty much wish it didn't exist. my girlfriend loves it. it's...just a difficult thing to contend with day to day.

I think ur dad was in episode 5 of true detective.

 
nah it wasn't that ep. i know which one, but it's he wants it to be secret. and so it remains.

They then have sex next to their dead son's corpse.^[29]
 
GRITTY REALISM FANTASY sounded pretty terrible to me from the start
 
I don't know anything about the scene, rape in a tv show doesn't necessarily have anything to do with feminism. it sounds dumb and gratuitous tho.
 
MORE SHOWS 2 WASTE UR PITIFUL LIFE   ​   ​  
review with forrest macneil: good
nathan for you s2: good so far but REALLY hard to watch without hitting myself on the leg
brooklyn nine-nine: similar to other recent/current popular comedy series, but besides that surprisingly enjoyable. i like chelsea peretti.
 

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I think ur dad was in episode 5 of true detective.

 
nah it wasn't that ep. i know which one, but it's he wants it to be secret. and so it remains.

fu
 
edited because it looked like I was singling out jamie when really I was talking about ALL our pathetic dumpster lives

Quote from: E-Z Chips on July 18, 2014, 03:26:53 pm

I don't know anything about the scene, rape in a tv show doesn't necessarily have anything to do with feminism. it sounds dumb and gratuitous tho.

well what really bothers me about it is the people who make the show apparently didn't think of that scene as rape and were entirely surprised when people called it that

filming a rape scene and not even realising that's what you're doing is even more fucked up than doing it deliberately for Gritty Realism Cred imo

oh I see, yeah for sure.
 
yeah @ farren I agree, the main issue appears to be them denying/not realizing it's rape. 
 
the idea to include rape as part of a frivolous fantasy story whereupon the creator has full control of what happens is a little dubious tho. if it's done well & represents the real issues of our world then it has merit, but if it's by some hack trying to be gritty and mature (my ignorant impression of george r. r. r. r. martin) and some oblivious director, its entertainment value really comes into question

From my impressions of the issue, here are the conclusions I draw.
 
Game of Thrones is terrible as a tv show and it's all Breaking Bad's fault.
 
At least it is giving us a platform to address these issues in the context of how they impact our own world. Even if it is done terribly and fails to represent the real issues of our world, in order to draw that conclusion you have no choice but to give consideration to the issues of our world. By going that far, I see the narrative as already accomplishing its job. It's up to you to decide if the actual story accomplished that job effectively, or if the bastard just ran into the story haphazardly with no regard for anything like a bull into a china shop. I get that author intent and the autonomy over the world he creates counts for everything here. Hell, the very fact that he felt compelled to even have a 'queen shithead' character in the first place, who serves no purpose across FOUR books other than "establishing how practically impossible it really is for literally ANYONE to not completely hate her", raises a TON of red flags that I am literally in no position to even properly address.
 
Even with all the messiness introducing this kind of writing into mass market mainstream entertainment presents, I still interpret it as an awareness of intent on the author's part. The fact that he could easily be a horrible hack writer writing only for shock value as just another part of the narrative he weaves. People knew what was going on with Jerry Springer's show in the 90's, and how practically nothing about it deserved any serious amount of human attention, but that didn't stop a ton of folks from tuning in all the same. Hell, not a single one of us would even remember that specific name otherwise, and I think even something like that is a statement on society worth not forgetting.

Mushrooms are a hell of a drug, there is just something about psilocybin that puts you in a "manifesto-y" mood.
 
Yeah, no worries. I'm a fan. I had to read all the books before I let myself get past season 1 of the tv show, but the show is actually making a lot of the more favorable character's plots easier to follow than with the books. That guy knocks Tyrion out of the park and makes it look effortless. I can see why so many folks latch onto Jon Snow despite him being essentially the same character. (I know who you meant, but 'bastard snow' is a redundant statement, that's day 1 stuff dude)

honestly guys I feel like I'm contributing a lot of worthless garbage to this thread and not getting a whole lot of putrefied dreck in return. please shape up.
 

also finished watching the first season of Silicon Valley: wasn't sure how good it was going to be, but every single episode I watched genuinely surprised me at how good it was.
 
They are pretty good at writing characters that don't relate to most people in general, in favor of them relating to you personally. (and not in a sitcom-y way either) If you are prone to calling shows like Workaholics or Broad City as "basic", I'd be really interested in hearing your impressions of a show like this.

I'm halfway through, may have more thoughts later
 
I didn't like the first episode very much. welcome to the world of silicon valley, only I'm not very interested!! I wasn't too into returning to a fantasy & bunch of concepts and terminology I left behind in high school. I didn't see a whole lot else going on.
 
I decided to try it again tonight just because I know these guys can be funny, and because people whose opinions I trust enjoyed it. Largely for the reason you mentioned (which I forgot about until I came here to post) the next three episodes were pretty good! I don't personally identify with any of the characters, but they strike me as an accurate representation of people who could be in such a situation, and remind me a lot of people I've known/bits of personality I've encountered throughout my life. Like the billionaires, especially Peter Gregory, are so alike Big Wigs I've encountered or seen giving talks. The whole concept in the fourth episode with Richard and Erlich "needing both sides of the brain" was really strong too where it could have been pure junk. They all seem like pretty good characters and so far they have some entertaining chemistry between them. It's great that they managed to write these tech wizards and make them interesting, without sacrificing their silicon valley-ness and trying to make them relate to every average joe xbox. I mean compared to the buglike non-human department store catalog version of nerds in BBT each of these characters is a standalone masterpiece