News Israel to cut electrical power to Gaza (Read 3179 times)

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/25/israel.gaza/index.html

this is pretty horrible! i'm not exactly sure of my position on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute, but shit like this is just terrible. there's absolutely no justification for punishing the regular citizens of Gaza, even if there is a large terrorist/insurgent presence there.

man, kk4/doktormartini are gonna have a field day on this one but fuck this is disgusting
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That's pretty crazy.

So is this statement:
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According to figures compiled by the Israel Defense Forces, approximately 800 rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel from June to September, compared with approximately 500 during the same period last year.
...talking about rocket attacks like they are housing prices or something.  It's crazy that something like that is just an accepted statistic.  Something does have to happen - though I am not condoning this power outage.

What is the beef in that area, anyway?

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This kind of mass punishment is counter productive and is used to create more tension and hatred. Israel is a socialist state and cannot exist without an outside entity to provide unity for the population. The whole friggin' situation there is terrible. There are also a lot of unseen and things that rarely get seen in the papers, especially in the US news.

The people in Israel are good people, and so are the Palestinians, their leaders and the political ideology they espouse however is despicable.
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This kind of mass punishment is counter productive and is used to create more tension and hatred. Israel is a socialist state and cannot exist without an outside entity to provide unity for the population. The whole friggin' situation there is terrible. There are also a lot of unseen and things that rarely get seen in the papers, especially in the US news.

The people in Israel are good people, and so are the Palestinians, their leaders and the political ideology they espouse however is despicable.

A socialist country? Oh god... You SOOO have no idea what you are talking about.

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when did we get a doktormartini2???



Other than that though, this is a pretty dumb move, people(doktormartini) are just looking to fuel the LOL ISRAEL fire............
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Didn't Israel hand over the gaza strip to the palestinians anyway? why would they continue powering it?

guh how is this even so bad? they're keeping important places powered, it's just the houses. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEIR CELLPHONES??
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Israel is a socialist state and cannot exist without an outside entity to provide unity for the population.
You have no idea what socialism is if you think this. Isreal is a parliamentary democracy.
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I find it more amazing he compared Israel to Oceania from 1984, as if Big Brother hook nose jew is perpetually providing conflict so that he can maintain his ZOG. seriously, who the fuck seriously thinks Israel NEEDS to be hated by the entire muslim world just so they can get sympathy and maintain order.

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Didn't Israel hand over the gaza strip to the palestinians anyway? why would they continue powering it?

guh how is this even so bad? they're keeping important places powered, it's just the houses. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO CHARGE THEIR CELLPHONES??

guh maybe because it's leaving thousands with no power?? yeah they won't be able to charge their cellphones, but they also won't be able to REFRIGERATE FOOD/MEDICINE? i mean seriously you are blind as shit if you don't see why this is a problem
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guh maybe because it's leaving thousands with no power?? yeah they won't be able to charge their cellphones, but they also won't be able to REFRIGERATE FOOD/MEDICINE? i mean seriously you are blind as shit if you don't see why this is a problem
Well majority of Palestinians can't get medicine and the food they have is limited...

Not much else to say than Israel sucks.  Not a good move on their part...get the fuck out of Gaza and the West Bank =o)
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guh maybe because it's leaving thousands with no power?? yeah they won't be able to charge their cellphones, but they also won't be able to REFRIGERATE FOOD/MEDICINE? i mean seriously you are blind as shit if you don't see why this is a problem

well the people on the gaza strip are relatively new, and it sounds like they're mostly young rocket launchers. they're given warning that their power will be cut and there's still power in the surrounding palestinian powered places???

my first though was LOOTING and RIOTING like in america but i don't know how stuff like that goes down in the middle east.

it just sounds to me like the power company is saying "hey, we're re-routing our power so you guys are gonna have to find a new company. we'll leave it on for a bit though, and until your hospitals and crap are sorted"

this doesn't seem like it's even a war thing.
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well the people on the gaza strip are relatively new
The Palestinians that have lived there pre-Israel (before 1948) and now...some have ancestors dating back to Biblical times.  You get farmers who have a family farm that goes back generations upon generations upon generations.
In case you didn't know, Palestinians were one of the groups of people who heard Jesus deliver The Sermon on the Mount (according to the Bible).
Last Edit: October 26, 2007, 10:56:33 pm by Doktormartini
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Thanks for stabbing the Middle East in the chest again, Israel. This is another example of bullshit foreign policy by the highest level of government fucking over its people and the people of neighbouring countries!

Seriously. The fact that the Israeli government doesn't realize that this is a bad idea (or does and forges ahead anyways) is appalling. There are lots of brilliant political minds to come out of Israel, how is it that they can continuously make AWFUL fucking decisions?

How hard is it to say "hey, I know you guys killed some of our people, but here is some land we took from you back and some food to give to your starving people. Oh, you don't want it because you hate us? Well, we'll just leave it here on this table then, and go back to our homes. If it's not here when we get back, we'll understand!".

I would never be pro-terrorism, but there is a far greater chance that the terrorism in Palestine will stop once the Israeli government stops raping Palestine then the Israeli government stopping their slow but steady schemes (lol) to dominate their region once terrorism stopped.

This is a pretty ridiculous quagmire, and if so many people on both sides weren't such assholes to one another then it would have been settled fifty years ago.
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The Palestinians that have lived there pre-Israel (before 1948) and now...some have ancestors dating back to Biblical times.  You get farmers who have a family farm that goes back generations upon generations upon generations.
In case you didn't know, Palestinians were one of the groups of people who heard Jesus deliver The Sermon on the Mount (according to the Bible).

That's cute, Doktormartini. Thanks for sharing.


Palestinians did NOT EXIST before the 20th century, because they're arab refugees with no culture of their own.
I am not saying they don't deserve their own state, but they're certainly not getting one until they agree to recognize Israel as a legitimate authority.

Also, Jews have been living in Israel since biblical times too. What's more, there have been Jewish colonists in Canaan since 1891 when Theodore Herzl wrote his book "The Jewish State"
They bought and farmed swamp and desert-land into what it is today.

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Also, Jews have been living in Israel since biblical times too. What's more, there have been Jewish colonists in Canaan since 1891 when Theodore Herzl wrote his book "The Jewish State"
They bought and farmed swamp and desert-land into what it is today.
They didn't buy the land they went in and took it.  The Jews went in with pieces of paper claiming the farm land was theirs (even though the family may have owned the farm for generations) and if the Palestinians were lucky they would then get jobs on the farm.

Here read some quotes from Israel's first prime minister, David Ben Gurion:

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“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
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“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
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“We must expel the Arabs and take their places.”

Keep in mind Palestinians Christains, Arabs, and the Jewish population lived together in piece before the huge migration of EUROPEAN JEWS came.  Even to the point of going over and celebrating other religious holidays with people.
Last Edit: October 26, 2007, 11:13:42 pm by Doktormartini
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That's cute, Doktormartini.  Thanks for sharing.
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It is also very awful that people are being killed by rockets.
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It is also very awful that people are being killed by rockets.
Yes I agree.  Living under a military occupation makes you kinda mad though (at least I would be).  Granted it shouldn't happen anyways.
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Anyone who disagrees with anything Israel does is a filthy anti-semite who should be shot Doktormartini, the jews (even WHITE non-arab jews) lived there since Jesus's times and therefore only them deserve to live there and nobody else

It's such a shame that there is so much anti-semitism in the world!
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The Palestinians that have lived there pre-Israel (before 1948) and now...some have ancestors dating back to Biblical times.  You get farmers who have a family farm that goes back generations upon generations upon generations.
In case you didn't know, Palestinians were one of the groups of people who heard Jesus deliver The Sermon on the Mount (according to the Bible).

when israel handed back the gaza strip i doubt people poured back into their traditional family farms they abandoned, which is my point. the people that are settling in now are probably still settling in. I really doubt not having power for a while will make much difference!


also how expensive is a rocket???
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