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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Carrion Crow on May 21, 2009, 12:33:21 am
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Well, if you click here then you will see an overcast field with the rumble of distant thunder and a clock that is counting down to about 2am BST, so about this time in 24 hours. Like so:
(http://pub.gamingw.net/52348/possmgs5.png)
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/next/
Every so often a 5 or an S in a rather futuristic font blinks onto the screen as if to suggest a fifth installation of a particularly famous Konami franchise, but you never know really. Here's why:
- The last time something like this got hyped up it turned out to be a shit looking game for the iphone, which in fairness was a pretty dastardly move by konami as what people wanted was MGS4 for the 360 and it was all very anticlimatic.
- Hideo Kojima could take a dump onto a blu ray and PS3 owners (myself included, I might add) would probably still buy it because let's be honest there's not a lot coming out for the platform at the moment, and despite all its cheesy glory and long drawn out silliness - mgs4 was the shit.
So let's speculate some more:
It might be worth adding that it is just under a year since they released MGS4 so it would make sense for them to release some sort of add on or sequel using the current technology they have. Because even a year on MGS4 is still one of the best looking games out there and as history shows they like to release one or two episodes using the same technology. They must've spent an awful lot of money on creating MGS4 so I would not be surprised if they already had several more titles using the same technology under wraps.
This topic is just generally for some crazy speculation. All we have to go on is a fairly chernobyl-esque looking moving picture with a flashing 5 or S.
Talk amongst yourselves? Oh and lets not have some mgs is gay i hate kojima thread we already did that remember.
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some people already saw (or thought they did...) snake shaped clouds in the sky but thats probably some joke anyway
what i dont get is that why not just wait 24 hours and see what it is seriously is anyone on gw so hyped for that WOAAAAAAH MUST MAKE TOPIC.. ITS KOJIMA.
i mean aside from pre-mgs4 psyburn :shh:
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Where's the fun in that!? You gotta have some silly kojima hype banter or this just simply would not be a gaming forum!
Oh herro sorrid snake.
Omg hotness I wanna bang you.
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I'm interested to see what it is. I'm not like MEGA excited but Metal Gear Solid is the shit.
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I'm interested, but I don't care all that much.
I do love the MGS series though, even though I know why it can be shit and why alot of people hate it
But I don't mind.
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I wish he'd make a brand new franchise already. Or has he done that?
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<meta name="keywords" content="Hideo Kojima, MGS,METAL GEAR, NEXT, game, konami, kojima game, KJP, Kojima Production "/>
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I wish he'd make a brand new franchise already. Or has he done that?
He tried, I think.
Boktai was one try, Lunar Knights is another.
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He tried, I think.
Boktai was one try, Lunar Knights is another.
Arent they both from the same series?
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Arent they both from the same series?
They're alike, but I don't think so. Lunar Knights was obviously action oriented, whereas Boktai was a stealth game.
However, both series kicked serious ass and I want there to be sequels of 'em.
Also, I think the S stands for SNATCHER.
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I heard the timer stops on the day of Microsofts E3 Press Conference!? Only really liked Zone of the Enders from Kojima, MGS id just too.. I just don't see the appeal.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/26/gdc09-kojima-teases-the-next-mgs/
Anyone remember this at all?
Also, the thunder and lightning in the teaser seems kinda like an important factor (hence the loading screen with the cloud with thunder appearing underneath it when it loads).
"Raiden (雷電) is Japanese for "thunder and lightning"
So I'm personally thinking either a rerelease of MGS4 with Raiden playability (because let's be honest, this is the first time ever the audience WANTED to play as Raiden) or MGS5 with Raiden as a protagonist... Maybe even a spinoff of the series?
Something that Kotaku made good note of too was the fact that the search terms don't seem to mention "MGS5".
Probably just another iphone game heh
edit: cool thing with kojima too, worth checking out http://www.developmag.com/interviews/484/New-place-for-Hideo
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IT'S CASTLEVANIA 5
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Also, the thunder and lightning in the teaser seems kinda like an important factor (hence the loading screen with the cloud with thunder appearing underneath it when it loads).
"Raiden (雷電) is Japanese for "thunder and lightning"
I like this rumor
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guys.. there's only 4 raiden games.. are you ready for RAIDEN V ???
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i was raiden rockman's mum last night
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that's more of a burn on you ya know :welp:
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yeah she's a terrible lay
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They're alike, but I don't think so. Lunar Knights was obviously action oriented, whereas Boktai was a stealth game.
However, both series kicked serious ass and I want there to be sequels of 'em.
Also, I think the S stands for SNATCHER.
i hope the s stands for snatcher...
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i hope the s stands for snatcher...
I think we all know it doesn't.
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I wish there was a way to hide topics from view. Every time I see this topic I am reminded why I hate the internet.
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due to wild speculation and hope? it's great, isnt it.
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Edit: Whoops. Someone put that already.
It's possible though that the meta tags are just being used to make a connection with Kojima.
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Why won't Metal Gear end?
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Come on psyburn at least pretend to be black when you post.
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due to wild speculation and hope? it's great, isnt it.
It's a fanboy circlejerk. Not so much in GW in particular... but every site they get reposed in. It's just that wild speculation/ FANSTURBATION topics spread through the internets like wildfire and nothing of value ever comes from them.
Ever.
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I think being a fan of MGS and feeling compelled to make a topic about it isn't bad! I guess if you're not a fan then you're not a fan no need to come in to the topic and be all negative just because it's not your scene.
Using the words "fanboy" and "circlejerk" pretty much sum up any fanboy or circlejerker. They are mutually inclusive to the poster's thinking.
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It's viral advertising by way of circle jerk. Nothing more.
Nothing can be gained by derailing this topic... so this will be my last post on the matter.
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well if someone has the right to come in here and be positive surely someone can come in and be negative too?
ONTOPIC: only half an hour remaining, right? i hope it clears some of this shit up.
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In my own horrible fanboy way I am pretty excited so prepare to laugh lots at my misfortune when it turns out to be another iphone game : )
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yeah, im pretty much with you here haha.
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has anyone else got internet death when accessing this shit?
edit: im getting SOMEWHERE... dont know where though...
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fanboy
I fucking hate this term and the people who use it and the people who it's directed at
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well looks like konami's server got shit on by a huge flock of fanboys
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edit: 120 hours now....
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the site shows 5, 3, a backwards 9, 3 again... keeps looping. no fucking clue anymore.
edit: no i worked that out completey wrong. wtf. different order. THERES AN E IN THERE.
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(http://pub.gamingw.net/52348/resize.png)
Well managed to get it loaded and heres the new timer. A new flashing letter has appeared, an e and the rain has started to fall. So yeah, I am gonna go into a darkened room and slash my wrists now.
It was nice knowing you GW.
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hahaha kojima got you
fuck kojima
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kojima got us with mgs4 tbh.
These characters are featured:
e
E
3
S/5
I think it's suggesting E3 will have something in store. fuck you kojima.
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was it just me or did the timer stop? i'm guessing its flash playing up...
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pretty much the whole internet got trolled
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You mean there will be videogames announced at e3?
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Nintendo's got stuff to announce too
hopefully good stuff
i wish :(
f-zero...
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man if i was kojima i'd spend all of my free time setting up timers across the internet, each bearing a single letter
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Heh, the timer seems to have reset itself, it now reads to be 106 hours O_o
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It wasn't so much resetting as it was that the countdown was a countdown to...another countdown.
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Haha kojima must have REALLY screwed up to alienate psyburn
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Woah, 120 hours? I see a 3 now. Probably something stupid again. Altough I almost shit myself when they had theyre MSG countdown...-_-
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The flashes pretty much point out
5 @ E3
So, MGS5 at E3, which, when you think about it, is no fucking surprise at all.
The question is: why do we have two(maybe three after this one) countdowns just to say something will be announced at E3?
The answer is: Kojima likes to be an asshole
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Man, if I was Kojima I'd do this shit all the time. I don't think it makes him an asshole, I just think it makes the people drooling over these countdowns gullible.
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hey for the record i wasn't drooling although I might've been a little moist
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Man, if I was Kojima I'd do this shit all the time. I don't think it makes him an asshole, I just think it makes the people drooling over these countdowns gullible.
by asshole i just meant he likes playing other people like toys
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It would appear that 2009 is the year of the fucking annoying countdown website as gamespot now have banners counting down to the worldwide "premier" of Modern Warfare 2.
It would be cool if one day a game company could just *release* a game without telling anyone. I think we would appreciate the nice surprise more than several drawn out weeks of mediocre trailers.
What's worrying is that soon we will see RPG maker games with countdown timers as our young attempt to imitate the real life games industry.
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I stopped paying attention to this when there were clouds over a field. To find out it was just a MGS5 @ E3 is hilarious.
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Even though the waits on MGS are ridiculous, the games are pretty fucking great (Not counting the shitty iPhone game).
But really, we don't need a countdown for an announcement. A countdown for a game is fine. But for some information about a game that will be released a year later? Come on.
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Its been running on my computer for at least 20 hours.
I just like the background noise of a storm.
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I know the countdown annoys everyone but its their way of generating hype for the game announcement. What do you expect?
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how is this annoying at all? everyone instantly thought it was about MGS5 and turns out... it is. did you think the countdown would be until it was released or something?
if you release a game without advertising it before hand by the time enough people know about it the technology is dated. although you can hide it by keeping all your audio as uncompressed wave on a blu ray disc.
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Part of me hopes it really is Snatcher just as an extra "hahaha you thought you had it ALL figured out with that storm, you just thought you were soooo clever"
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Part of me hopes it really is Snatcher just as an extra "hahaha you thought you had it ALL figured out with that storm, you just thought you were soooo clever"
Me too, except adding in that Snatcher was F'ING AWESOME.
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I had never played it but I just got the Sega CD rom like two days ago so I am doing this now, I played maybe the first three minutes so far but I really like the way it's set up. It's like a point and click adventure set up in a way where you can play it on a console without a dumb slow mouse pointer that is a pain to use. It's way better than, say, playing Shadowgate, where it's a pain to even point at an item to pick it up.
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Man, now I feel like replaying it again.
Hmm... Maybe I will..
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you're all sperging out over a COUNTDOWN? you guys want to see something really gross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4diJ-S3O3w
fuck your little counter shit okay watch this.
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no way. no. way.
i guess they're trekkies but that is insane.
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too bad for them most earthlings are not yet advanced enough to recognize true heroism
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You know what IS sloogeworthily amazing:
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the problem with this one btw is its really boring. a counter! letters! SPOILED IN THE META TAGS!!!
like fuck that, you know. I made one of these once and whatever else it was fun for me! but this is just boring shit.
conversely the star trek one is almost disturbing. I mean the guy who made it probably had a blast but at the same time while I would be making it I would be thinking "no one will ever find this...I hope."
but this is just a lame countdown flashing a letter and it even says MGS5 in the tags? that's really boring shit for everyone involved. kojima you suck at this, that iphone one was pretty dumb as well. does he not understand how to build hype?
LETS PUT A REALLY OBVIOUS COUNTDOWN...ON EVERYTHING!!!
also why is this kojima hype thread #2, where was 1?
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I think it was the one that ended up being an iPhone game.
Also like I said this is a GREAT countdown if it's not really MGS5, but pretty shitty otherwise.
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I think it was the one that ended up being an iPhone game.
stop reminding us all.
fucking kojima.
ALSO i dont think it IS MGS anymore...
http://kotaku.com/5267167/is-kojima-working-on-lords-of-shadow
this is all too confusing
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Maybe Raiden goes back in time to fight Altair in Assassin's Creed world.
Also: Magical Negro, wow, that star trek thing is fucked. Someone should do something that epic and have it lead to some reallllly shitty RPG Maker 2000 game with RTP everything, even Alex hero. That'd be great.
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you're all sperging out over a COUNTDOWN? you guys want to see something really gross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4diJ-S3O3w
fuck your little counter shit okay watch this.
that only worked because it's star trek
man if a videogame company tried to do this with anything except for maybe like WOW or something it'd be just too much EFFORT and nobody would care
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also on that video...
"So chatroom member Chink2Love goes and checks it out."
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stop reminding us all.
fucking kojima.
jesus now i hope this is really an announcement for METAL GEAR SOLD 5 -- FOR THE IPHONE
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what's interesting, at least to me, is that even if you disagree with ARGs, you can't argue this is a bizarre choice. it's not just a countdown; whenever countdowns are used, they are either used with products you know are coming (ie wait till X for Halo 3!) or for products kept almost entirely in secret (the Segway). when you create a mystery about it, you enter the realm of the ARG, where people have to look around and match letters (see: This is My Milwaukee, which went nowhere btw).
but here the ARG can be solved by looking at the METATAGS. it means the only people this ARG cannot be solved by are people who would probably never go to the site to begin with! it's like rewarding your fans for putting in almost no work whatsoever.
I don't get these people!
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Also man it really doesn't count much when you slap the word ARG right on it. That seems like it RUINS THE WHOLE THING when you do that! It's like if you were right in the middle of a movie that you are thoroughly enjoying and someone just leans over and shouts "BY THE WAY IT'S NOT REAL" in your ear.
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I'd rather it be Zone of the Enders as that would not only stop all these "OMG MGS COMING TO 360!!!" rumors but also because Second Runner was a kick ass game and would love to see how it's handled on the current gen hardware.
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The MGS on 360 rumors will never end. You see, it's like rumors from back in the day. For a certain while, fake rumors were about hidden SSBMelee characters, and before than SSB, and also hidden Ocarina of Time secrets. I remember there was a site dedicated entirely to incredibly farfetched OoT secrets.
But yeah, whatever this is, I don't mind, and I'm not very excited about it. That said, I'll probably end up playing it anyway.
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Well, whether you like it or not kojima is gonna shit in the face of fans again in a few hours. As is the nature of a slow-drip marketing scheme like this.
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Dooblepost do do dooo
(http://pub.gamingw.net/52348/3.jpg)
Well, Metal Gear is practically confirmed now as that is most certainly big boss. Or kurt russell. OK Big Boss.
My friend reckons it will be a continuation of portable ops. I disagree because of the R&D they've invested in the MGS4 engine.
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KOJIMA GO TO HELL
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Welp, I'll check back in on this in a few weeks to see what it was all about. In the meantime, I'm not going to give a shit.
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I SMELL A METAL GEAR REMAKE
(this is based purely on the Outer Heaven symbol)
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I am gonna be insufferable for weeks.
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http://kotaku.com/5270922/first-big-boss-and-then-raiden
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Well I have no idea what to make of it. We were wondering if it's actually Raiden or if that is Grey Fox. (reference pic: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/thumb/9/9b/Null.jpg/175px-Null.jpg)
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(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Gray_Fox_Concept.jpeg)
could well be.
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Well I have no idea what to make of it. We were wondering if it's actually Raiden or if that is Grey Fox. (reference pic: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/thumb/9/9b/Null.jpg/175px-Null.jpg)
Grey Fox is dead, that's Raiden in the Famitsu article.
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I SMELL A METAL GEAR REMAKE
(this is based purely on the Outer Heaven symbol)
I'd like that.
A whole, whole, whole fucking ton.
Cause yeah, even though I know all the bad about this series, I don't give a shit, I am a sucker for MGS.
Regardless of what this is, I like the HD Big Boss picture.
By the way, it could be a continuation of the Snake Eater/Portable Ops series, just on the PS3.
That's not entirely impossible.
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i thought kojima was done with metal gear. what gives?
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he's not done with money
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I SMELL A METAL GEAR REMAKE
(this is based purely on the Outer Heaven symbol)
yeah hopefully man, that would actually be rad. have gray fox in there as well
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he's not done with money
neither am I :fogetsmile:
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can someone maybe sum up the updates or something?
I don't know what's been updated on that site...?
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couldn't you read what has been said?
either way the countdown restarted again, there's a thunderstorm now and flashes of big boss/raiden
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What if it just has a database of different pictures of Metal Gear-related people, and just randomly generates a countdown length every time the previous countdown ends.
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the thunder and lightning theory involving raiden was right... but what the hell is up with big boss?
Maybe this could be two games? A sequel and remake? im not sure...
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It's been posted again with translation: http://kotaku.com/5271124/can-you-decipher-kojimas-famitsu-interview
Also the way they have censored out this shit in the interview is basically a play on the "La Li Lu Le Lo" if you know what I mean.
Kojima can't say what he wants to say because the nanomachines in his blood are stopping him! :blarg:
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jesus christ kojima how many times do you have to say this is the final metal gear for you before it's really enough
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with that said let's hope for gameplay as good as mgs4's and a story as good as mgs1's (by videogame standards??). also hoping it will be set in one location like mgs 1-3 and that there's more to explore and that there are less cutscenes and way more playable content.
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remake mgs1 except do it right this time.
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rumor has it that they are Solidus and Gray Fox
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It's not Solidus. Wrong eye.
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apparently kojima says in the famitsu article it's not raiden/big boss
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Would be cool if they remade the original MG for NES, and tied it all in with the current series.
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most likely it'll just be a rerelease of MGS4 but with bonus features similar to MGS2: Substance and MGS3: Subsistence.
It would be hilarious if they got all the fanboys hyped up for just that.
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i think i saw solid snakes butt in one of the clouds could someone please confirm
EDIT:
http://kotaku.com/6371255/solid-snakes-butt-points-to-mgs5-release
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so yeah, actual GOOD speculation we've seen the shitty cloud humor 10 times already
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Would be cool if they remade the original MG for NES, and tied it all in with the current series.
Would be cool if they remade the original MG for MSX, and tied it all in with the current series.
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Would be cool if they remade the original MG for MSX, and tied it all in with the current series.
"I feel asleep!!"
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A remake of the 2 MSX games would be pretty cool, seeing the only two non-english sections of the story officially translated and updated to have the control scheme of today's games.
On another note, I finally found and bought Snake Eater recently aswell, and watching the opening made me think of the Metal Gear opening heh
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considering those two games are the only reason metal gear solid's story makes any sense
apparently kojima says in the famitsu article it's not raiden/big boss
seeing as he has the outer heaven emblem from the metal gear booklet on his hat I struggle to see how it could be anyone other than Big Boss. :fogetshrug:
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You know, I'm starting to think this means absolutely nothing
The countdown changed AGAIN, and regained about 20 hours (currently at 91)
The Big Boss flash is still there, but the Raiden flash has started appearing too (it didn't actually show before)
The letter flashes though, make no sense anymore. So, there's still, like before, 5, @, e, E, 3, last big change also brought P and R, but now there's also a C, a 6 and a 0/O
I don't get it.
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maybe there was a 3 before the 6 and 0, and so it's really an ad for Pretty Rad Countdowns 360, his brand new countdown game. You've been playing the demo!
nah but i might be onto something with that if there's a 60 there was probably a 3 before it so it's some shit for the 360 that will probably still be a disappointment to you guys
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Maybe it's the Movie annoucements of cast, etc.. Haha like that movie would do well. MGS is just too weird and far fetched for people to understand.
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guys if you combine the letters with the starting numbers of the countdown you get a hex code. i just ran it through a converter:
DRINK MORE OVALTINE
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mmmmm good idea kojima
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nah but i might be onto something with that if there's a 60 there was probably a 3 before it so it's some shit for the 360 that will probably still be a disappointment to you guys
At this stage, the only thing that wouldn't dissapoint is if Kojima sets up a real FOXHOUND unit and we all join.
Our hopes are waaaay too high.
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that's true.....after all, something with a million countdowns SHOULD be the most impressive thing in the world, but it never will be
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Maybe it's the Movie annoucements of cast, etc.. Haha like that movie would do well. MGS is just too weird and far fetched for people to understand.
you think so
i'm pretty it would be profitable from the first week off
you've got to realize(youtube is a good place to see), mgs is insanely popular and 70% of the dumb people around the world call it the best story ever invented
so you have at least these people who will go see it, then you have the curious people who go see it, and you can have the random people who have no clue who watch the trailer and go "hmm why the fuck not" who go see it
that's already alot, so unless it's a multi-billion budget movie.. it should work
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man when you say 70% of the dumb people you really mean 70% of gamers
the problem is this doesn't make up MOVIEGOERS in general so!!!
i mean it will probably work because the gamers will all go see it but you can't judge a movie's success based on just the gamer population
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Maybe it's a continuation of Metal Gear AC!D and that's Solid Snake's clone, Hans Davis.
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why would a movie use obviously CGI snake in it, especially considering the massive success that was Final Fantasy The Gumpus Within????
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why would a movie use obviously CGI snake in it, especially considering the massive success that was Final Fantasy The Gumpus Within????
you forgot that GIANT FAILURE called advent children
nobody liked that movie, especially not japfag ff7 fans
:fogethuh:
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you forgot that GIANT FAILURE called advent children
nobody liked that movie, especially not japfag ff7 fans
:fogethuh:
gotta say you're wrong there
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let me put it this way (note the nature of the sites those links are on) (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22advent+children+is+a+great+movie%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
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i liked advent children more than i liked ff7 itself
and that's mostly just because it looks really fuckin awesome on a nice hdtv
that's the only thing too, they both are really awful but at least advent children looks nice
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nah ff7 had ATMOSPHERE at points which advent children never ever came close to having
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advent children was terrible. it was everything terrible about anime and videogames combined into one with ff7s characters and story thrown over top of it to make it smell a little less bad
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nah ff7 had ATMOSPHERE at points which advent children never ever came close to having
like where because i don't remember any that weren't clouded by CHILDHOOD, when i replayed it i didn't come across anything of the sort
idk the only highlight i can think of is YOU GET TO DRESS CLOUD AS A GIRL i thought that was really funny as a kid :(
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dawg the game starts with you as an environmental terrorist living in a fucking slum. if you cannot distinguish between this and BACKFLIPPE ACROSS MOTORCYCLE then i don't know what to say
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gotta say you're wrong there
you know
i thought the fact i was being sarcastic wasn't apparent enough so i made sure to add a foget
but it seems it didn't work anyway???
way too many people like advent children, just like too many people like lady gaga and 50 cent...
catch my drift
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bort once told me why final fantasy was much cooler than advent children and I actually sat back and said oh man fuck that's true.
in advent children cloud blocks a bullet with his sunglasses while riding down a motorway and it makes you squirm or really hope anyone who is seeing you watch this hears you say a little too loudly "HOW IRONICLY FUNNY"
in ff7 sephiroth has killed everyone, is standing in front of a reactor, and Cloud, who has seen his childhood friend basically DIE outside and is horribly wounded, stabs Sephy @_@ in the back, and pushes him into a reactor.
one of these scenes is stupid flip around shit, the other is honestly hardcore as fuck and I wish more people would realize the idea of grizzled guys and gals who just FIGHT (see, oldboy hammer scene) are much much cooler than any HIIII *jumps through the air throws a mask dodge bullet lands with smirk*
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I wholey agree with that. There were moments, albeit cheesy, in FF7 that stuck either a tone or emotion. like sephiroth destroying nibelheim or hearing about Seto fighting the gi soldiers and turning stone, or the death of Dyne that give that craptastic game some form of substance... whereas Advent Children was just... omg sephi is back because why not amirite? he has feathers and his out outfit and a masamune and lets goku through some ruins haaaaaaiiiiiiii ya!
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i agree too
i'm just talking about the majority of people i seem to see :(
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-pat pat- it will be ok.
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FF7 had a better battle system than advent children too.
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Well, not only are there countdowns but there are now also CREEPY MASKS.
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Maybe it's the Movie annoucements of cast, etc.. Haha like that movie would do well. MGS is just too weird and far fetched for people to understand.
Trust me, I think Hollywood can condense MGS into the next craptacular summer action flick of the year.
However, if John Carpenter were to direct such a project, I think it could be one of my favorite movies of all time. The dude basically invented Solid Snake.
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metal gear's storyline is about as bad as any michael bay action movie except worse because a lot of the really stupid stuff (like liquid snake possessing ocelot through an arm implant) is honestly worse than the dumbest soap opera writing. anyone who thinks a metal gear movie would be a good idea is either a moron or doesn't understand that the standards for writing are very different for films and videogames. seriously with games you could just take a dumb storyline right out of wwe and slap in enough explosions and guns and then gamers and critics will call it a masterpiece. this is not how it works for film.
Exactly.
People bitching over "man Uwe Boll ruined Alone in the Dark my beloved video game franchise why didn't he just copy the vidcon exactly" f dat
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I think it's got a lot of funny quirks that fans love too. They are pretty lovingly crafted games. Not every game can you kick the locker off a door then get told off over codec for lying down on the hot babe poster on the underside.
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Or have battle cards with japanese models that play a movie of them doing nothing much in a bikini for 10 seconds everytime you use them.
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Don't be a prisoner of fate, go fulfill your destiny.
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I think the 1st MGS could turn into a good movie but it cannot be as faithful to the game as most people will like because most of the game is you playing as Snake. But I don't know if I would see MGS2,3 or 4...because frankly those stories are tooo crazy for normal people.
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Well, not only are there countdowns but there are now also CREEPY MASKS.
you mean this?: http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mask/
Ah hah hah Kojima, I come on your countdown site to see how it is doing and I find a creepy mask that caught me off guard, sick fuck...
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Kojima you sick fucking fuck, I want to castrate you. Make a great game.
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the thing about uwe boll is that his game-to-film adaptations have been the most faithful so far.
Silent Hill would be the best game to film adaption so far IMO. I'll laugh if the announcement was just about the new MGS game on the new PSP.
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Being the best game to film adaptation doesn't mean Silent Hill is a good movie, because it isn't, it's a load of shit.
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i thought the max payne movie was better than the game, and an alright movie.
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i thought the max payne movie was better than the game, and an alright movie.
This is the best video game movie, yes.
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Max Payne was awful! I would go so far as to say it was unwatchable :(
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Max Payne was awful! I would go so far as to say it was unwatchable :(
Which video game movie would you prefer, in that case?
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it was boring as fuck pretty much and they didn't do it nearly as well as they could but yeah it was an alright GAME movie
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That is what I meant, yes.
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Exactly.
People bitching over "man Uwe Boll ruined Alone in the Dark my beloved video game franchise why didn't he just copy the vidcon exactly" f dat
"where are the zombies making distorted belching noises that sometimes burst into a room and have such bad AI that they just stand there and essentially FORGET WHY THEY CAME IN"
actually if someone made an accurate movie of the original alone in the dark movie it would probably be hilarious to watch, it would be a comedy
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You buffoons stop talking about video game movies and start speculating about Sunny and Johnny, this is what this topic is all about now.
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I think Half Life would be a good movie concept if they filmed it in the first person and added more epic imagery.
I loved the Max Payne series of games but I am deliberately not going to see the movie so not to ruin my current experience/mental image of the franchise.
You buffoons stop talking about video game movies and start speculating about Sunny and Johnny, this is what this topic is all about now.
Hey it's a forum! We'll discuss whatever we like man! But yeah, as you wish:
On gamespot (http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6210555/16gb-psp-go-revealed-early-new-psp-mgs-confirmed) they reckon the sony exec who presented the PSP Go in the interview confirmed a new PSP MGS for the platform. Me and my mate now think there will be two MGS games, one with big boss on the PSP and the other with Raiden/Grey Fox on the PS3. The reason we think there are two games is because the PSP one is sort of confirmed now after the interview, but they have all this leftover tech from MGS4 that they would be fools not to utilise.
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Ok I am 100% sure I saw a young snake, and in full color, it could've been Big Boss too.
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time travel.....
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The last MGS for the PSP blew.
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uh I was going to say the other night that well I can't find my copy of Final Fantasy VII but I thought the game had lots of atmosphere like someone was saying, like after the 16-bit Final Fantasy games it felt so epic in scope and like the boundaries weren't so clearly defined and this is going to sound gay but it felt like every environment/situation in FFVII was based on /something/, like I dunno I'm sure some kid in the game lost his parents and the dialogue was probably just as bad as every game before it but I believed it more just because of how the whole rest of the game felt, and I even though it would probably feel like emo crap now it did seem to go further than any console RPG would've even attempted, like it seemed scarier and more violent even though lots of rpgs are like a whole village gets masscred but in FF7 it really felt like omg that bastard, and lots of games had slums before but in FF7 it actually felt pretty sleazy and creepy at points, people actually got hurt with swords and guns instead of going psshew and disappearing
I think part of it was that in the NES/SNES games it was very clear what a FF game would and wouldn't do (whether it was Nintendo censorship or just what they chose to put in), so each time FF7 did something unexpected it was like really shocking at that age
but I remember even looking at the previews/walkthru before buying it and it just looked ridiculous on every screen, like I said it felt like lots of images and moments in FF7 were based off a definite memory or idea and felt like they did their homework on who knows what even if it came off as all Engrish and weird
but it's probably most in the Midgar chapter where you don't reach the world map for hours and don't know what a sephiroth is yet
I still like the feel of the graphics too, a lot of Playstation stuff feels like people were really hyped about being able to make stuff in 3D and just did all interesting stuff with it, even though graphics are better now it feels kind of like by the numbers and it's about improving on some previous graphics so it looks kind of samey but a little better, not enough games do really leftfield anymore as far as /how/ things are designed regardless of how good they look - it might have a little to do with how they make game engines now, I dunno?
I remember thinking in 10 years all games will be like this except you can move the camera and stuff but I still don't think any game looks like Final Fantasy VII even though they could by now
another game I want to tip my hat to is Goemon for N64 because regardless of whether the graphics were good they individually rendered every food item with polygons and I don't think any game has done this since
oh wait there was Snake Eater this is why people like Kojima games
Edit: I seriously think this takes a lot of guys, forget uncanny valley crap nobody but Kojima has attempted to make food rendered on a computer look appetizing
Edit: Maybe Shenmue did this too but see Shenmue is also critically acclaimed
Edit: Thinking back I don't think too many games attempt to do this, you could say making a convincing animal (as the hero's pet or something) is a matter of all this skeletal physics stuff but making appealing food seems to be purely a matter of designing it well
I think this aspect of the Metal Gear games is interesting, Kojima is the only guy ever who would have birds shit on you in first-person view and people pissing their pants, like it seems stupid but it probably takes a lot of attention to detail to make these things gross in a realistic way, like if it really happened, not just ren and stimpy gross. There's probably a lot of examples of this, moments in the game where he wants you to really cringe or really get grossed out or dizzy or turned on
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about that goemon thing
it reminded me of something that struck me as awesome in Kirby: Crystal Shards
unlike most N64 games, no single object or decoration was represented as a flat sprite, every single object or imagineable thing in that game is a model
i found that impressive
edit:
the weather calmed down and now nothing's going on
and it's only flashing a big 8. i can't believe this got me this curious
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note: this scenery looks nothing like either the middle-east or south africa :(
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Kojima you sick fucking fuck, I want to castrate you. Make a great game.
Yeah I just realized that it is for another project, my mistake :/. The thing just kind of caught me off guard a bit...
The last MGS for the PSP blew.
To an extent, I kind of agree. I mean it wasn't all THAT bad but there were many flaws that made me kind of dislike it such as the awful camera, the clunky controls, and the fact that people started hacking on the multiplayer not too long after it's release.
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MGS Rising it is. Starring Raiden. For 360 at least.
Looks like the Big Boss thing is something else...
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aaaaaargh suck my balls kojima
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The big boss one will be for the PSP Go, by process of elimination. That guy confirmed it in the PSP vid the other day so it's highly likely that the "other MGS" if there is one will be on the PSP.
Damnation.
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It's a new MGS with Raiden not Snake and will be coming to the Xbox 360 as well.
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oh hey too bad someone already said that 3 posts ago
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I had a thought. WHO POSSIBLY COULD LOOK LIKE BIG BOSS ONLY A LITTLE YOUNGER ??
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snake? the real son of the big boss?
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I guess this 360 MGS is like, to appease the fact 360 users didn't get MGS4?
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then just gimme mgs 4
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lol "But who said anything about Solid Snake" -folds chin in-
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-metal-gear/50036?ref=playerfeat
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hideo kojima ahahahaha he looks so dumb
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what an ET lookalike motherfucker
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his forehead is so sloped! look at his buck teeth and slanty eyes
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even though mgs2 is the best mgs snake is so much better than raiden this is.. homosexual..
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If it's coming to the 360 does that mean that there will be more gameplay then movie or am I hoping for too much?
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You're hoping too much...
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Taking into consideration that this is a japanese action game made by Hideo Kojima, I'd have to say that it's going to be long, hard and shiny.
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If it's coming to the 360 does that mean that there will be more gameplay then movie or am I hoping for too much?
No I think they just get rid of all the gameplay entirely to make room for all the dont be a prisoner of fate fulfill your destiny URGH URGH ARGH *crawls on the floor in pain*
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This is the best video game movie, yes.
I actually liked Super Mario Brothers Better.
I thought Max Payne was just stupid. The story didn't even make any sense. And i hate films that go for a PG-13 rating when it OBVIOUSLY should not be that. How do you convey drug abuse in a PG movie? By having them drink it instead.
I have no problems with Metal Gear Rising. Infact I have began to not give a shit about the Metal Gear Solid franchise because.
I mean they are fun.
But Im over it.
So much fucking talking and linear gameplay when all i want to do is choke fuckers out and hide in boxes. I mean all the hype for Metal gear solid 3 had me thinking you would be required to evade capture in massive sandboxy areas of jungle. And for the food and medical systems to be more than just a little gimmick tacked in there.
Then metal gear solid 4 had me thinking i would be stalking through MASSIVE sandboxy Iraq bombed cities in the middle of a warzone. Being able to play both sides of the field.
I am interested in the PSP Metal Gear though.
I really liked Metal Gear Ac!d and would like a realtime version of the game. I think it'd be fun. Portable ops was OK.
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hmm... well, I can see lots of action. Since it's Raiden, you can look forward to probably QTE's and ninja gaiden gameplay against metal gears. maybe its his origin story between mgs2 and mgs4. cant be after 4 since he still has the plastic see-threw chin.
er... origin of how he went from gay to cool anyway. maybe more about olgas kid etc? the break up of raiden and rose... lot of potential story threads to pull.
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I actually liked Super Mario Brothers Better.
I thought Max Payne was just stupid. The story didn't even make any sense. And i hate films that go for a PG-13 rating when it OBVIOUSLY should not be that. How do you convey drug abuse in a PG movie? By having them drink it instead.
do you mean it was unbelievable? pretty sure in the games they never showed anyone shooting up either. the game was ma15, i think the difference is two shits and a fuck, which i don't give for a lack of swearing.
have you played the game? it's a really good adaptation. the game was stupid and i think the movie was less stupid.
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do you mean it was unbelievable? pretty sure in the games they never showed anyone shooting up either. the game was ma15, i think the difference is two shits and a fuck, which i don't give for a lack of swearing.
have you played the game? it's a really good adaptation. the game was stupid and i think the movie was less stupid.
I wrote a rant, took 5 and then deleted it. I found the movie to be predictable, the acting to be stiff, and the storyline just, I left the cinema feeling stupid.
Anyway back on topic of metal GEAR
Peacewalker looks pretty.
But i kinda wanna know whats up with the multiple Big Bosses.
Clones?
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Wi-fi/Wireless co-op, I'm pretty certain.
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I wrote a rant, took 5 and then deleted it. I found the movie to be predictable, the acting to be stiff, and the storyline just, I left the cinema feeling stupid.
if it's predictable then it makes sense....
have you played the game though? i'm pretty sure in the MAX PAYNE HYPE thread i said something like "hmmmm well they can't possibly mess this up" and it's true. the storyline, acting, and dialogue are all worse in the game. as it is all i remember from the movie is a cool gunfight near the end, and also that the bullet time sequences slowed down too much compared to the game
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man I just noticed that almost every other post on this page is like one line long
yeah I do remember how I thought MGS4 would be fucking huge too but that was mostly because Kojima was all like this game can't possibly fit onto a DVD so I was imagining he had to store geographic data for like an entire virtual country
I've only seen videos but like MOTHER looks like it has a bigger world than MGS4 (not to bring up Earthbound but I was talking with Dookie about how that must've been some ridiculous compression scheme for 1980-something because it was like 3000x3000 tiles across or something like that)
I also thought MGS3 would have a big/sprawling/randomly generated world, I think to the point where I thought on the first map there was some way to get over into the thicket of trees not realizing it was essentially a solid wall. But the whole game world had more variety than it looked like in the previews so that made it less disappointing - although I still had a way different picture in my head like I thought the camouflage system would be so complicated how will they possibly do indoor areas with the same engine
Edit: I think at the time I thought it would be one big sprawling continous map
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So many Metal Gear Solids, it's becoming Final Fantasy now.
Metal Gear Solid
Sons of Liberty
Snake Eater
Metal Gear Solid 4
Ac!d
Ac!d 2
Portable Ops
Peace Waker/Walker?
Rising Sun
Iphone game
VR Missions
Subs spin off things
Graphical Novel game on the PSP
Metal Gear Online
Sure there's more.
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Square and Kojima Productions should collaborate and make a game about old men with erectile dysfunction that have to rely on magical marbles in order to walk/eat. Also they can call forth magical beings that shit lava and puke liquid nitrogen.
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I just recently played trough the first 2 MGS'S. I'm on 3... I gotta say... MGS 3 is a lot harder (not a bad thing, nor a good thing... just is notable)... The camo system is kinda tedious. I'm on the part just after that guy shoots a Nuke from a Davy Crochet (spell?) launcher and blew up that factory.
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I just recently played trough the first 2 MGS'S. I'm on 3... I gotta say... MGS 3 is a lot harder (not a bad thing, nor a good thing... just is notable)... The camo system is kinda tedious. I'm on the part just after that guy shoots a Nuke from a Davy Crochet (spell?) launcher and blew up that factory.
Haha I noticed the difficulty spike too, especially after that part your upto now. 'cause of the environment you actually have to try and survive, claymores are a pain to see and finding the Mine Detector is necessary. I never really bothered with camo and either stick it onto the grass camo or black camo, and no face paint - I usually tranq everyone, and the ocasional kill if they call in re-inforcements, as I have the M23 Shotty and an AK-47 on me.
I'm just after an early-ish cutscene with Ocelot playing Russian Roulette by juggling guns, he is easily my favourite character so far.
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Haha I noticed the difficulty spike too, especially after that part your upto now. 'cause of the environment you actually have to try and survive, claymores are a pain to see and finding the Mine Detector is necessary. I never really bothered with camo and either stick it onto the grass camo or black camo, and no face paint - I usually tranq everyone, and the ocasional kill if they call in re-inforcements, as I have the M23 Shotty and an AK-47 on me.
I'm just after an early-ish cutscene with Ocelot playing Russian Roulette by juggling guns, he is easily my favourite character so far.
You're going to get tired of Ocelot, trust me.
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The End is my favorite personally. But yeah Ocelot is annoying.
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I like when he played massacre with his finger guns best.
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Haha I noticed the difficulty spike too, especially after that part your upto now. 'cause of the environment you actually have to try and survive, claymores are a pain to see and finding the Mine Detector is necessary. I never really bothered with camo and either stick it onto the grass camo or black camo, and no face paint - I usually tranq everyone, and the ocasional kill if they call in re-inforcements, as I have the M23 Shotty and an AK-47 on me.
I'm just after an early-ish cutscene with Ocelot playing Russian Roulette by juggling guns, he is easily my favorite character so far.
I actually haven't had too much problems with claymores yet (I imagine I will eventually). And the environments itself isn't the problem, its that the enemies spot you a lot easier and the different levels of alertness last a HELL of a lot longer... which is actually a bad thing IMO because it makes you just sit in your hiding spot waiting for the alert level to reduce to zero. It almost pads the game in this way with all the waiting around.
The fact that you can't just heal yourself with rations and instead have to just wait for you health to regen is a little more annoying because it forces more waiting on you. or at least it does for me because of my OCD with such things.
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as you play the game, you get better, and if you actually do like I did (ie, restart everytime you screwed up), you'd get alot better
because I realized when shit like that happens and you have to resort to hiding in a grass spot for a century, you basically screwed up majorly somewhere.
also took me a while to realize you can't normally creep up being soldiers with just being gentle with the analog stick, you have to use the dpad to move verryyy slowly. good to do cqc from behind, or hold them up, etc
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The fact that you can't just heal yourself with rations and instead have to just wait for you health to regen is a little more annoying because it forces more waiting on you. or at least it does for me because of my OCD with such things.
Yeah, rations got put into the food category, so instead they put Life Medicine in it's place, however it's rare as hell, only had one so far and used it fighting The Pain, his bloody bee shield is a pain in the butt, however got a good amount of food from lobbing nade's at him and missing. Haven't played in a while tho', seeing as I kind of got back onto playing Kingdom Hearts again. Going to have to return to it, otherwise I'm going to get worse than I am now :laugh: