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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: jamie on May 28, 2009, 01:34:49 am
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and Grave of the Fireflies, which I haven't seen yet but I will soon enough, what is there in this area?
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Cat Soup
people also tend to say these are acceptable:
akira
ghost in the shell original movie
kemonozume
I don't dislike any of those iirc
then there is the next level of shit, which gets a lil risky but is usually ok if youneed something to do
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Serial Experiment Lain. It's similar to Paranoia Agent. has 13 episodes
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earl I remember akira and ghost in the shell annoying me when I was about 12 so I'll watch them again probably but of course I knew about those things............you fucking idiot....
I was mostly asking about things I was not likely to have heard of. Like, there is stuff like perfect blue which is actually pretty cool but I know about stuff like that I'm looking for U.N.D.E.R.G.R.O.U.N.D animation, from any country that is really cool.
Cat Soup though I will go and check out, never really looked at that before.
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never seen this but it looks pretty insane.
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do people like paranoia agent???
I thought it wasn't so much mysterious and confusing as it just didn't explain shit properly.
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oh. all of those are pretty well known, I think. I actually left out the studio ghibli films like Spirited Away because they are really popular and you already know about grave of the fireflies. idk what you know so here is what comes to mind, I haven't seen most of them
persepolis: loads of gws saw this but I didn't. wait for one of them.
paprika is directed by satoshi kon, the same guy who did Paranoia Agent and Perfect Blue. I haven't seen it. my sister said to me "I saw paprika" and I said "sounds like it's for pedophiles" and she said "yeah it kinda is"
the thief and the cobbler is really big and a lot of people say it's the best animated movie ever. they are mostly talking about the animation, which is pretty stunning even if you aren't into that sort of thing. unfortunately the original animator Richard Williams never got to finish it, and it was completed without him. that version had a lot of song sequences and bad animation. instead you can watch this cut of the film online. it tries to maintain williams's vision http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=18B0CA620B61D076
Cat Soup. how's cat soup coming? it's like 30 minutes long, you can watch it right now.
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akira's pretty fuckin cool. yes it is kind of CONVOLUTED and apparently the manga is not like this but as far as setting and mood and animation it's worth watching. i was never impressed with gits but i could see why someone would be. kemonozume is one of the few i've watched that i really genuinely liked. the ending especially was pretty great
i watched paprika and was bored as fuck. i don't really know why but i did not think it was very good. it seemed like it was really beautiful but otherwise bland. i didn't even finish it. do you know how bored i have to be by a movie to not finish it? there are like two movies that i have ever done this with: paprika and DUNE. fucking dune, man. but yeah i didn't know the same guy did paranoia agent. idk that makes me wanna reconsider. hiret used to say deep blue ruled as well but i never saw it.
i think if you're willing to watch grave of the fireflies then yeah, ghibli films are fine mostly, but they're not the same as shit like paranoia agent and mindgame. as in, they're for children. but they're still very watchable and theyre GOOD for children's shit. i don't really dig NAUSICAA and i can't imagine being in love with princess mononoke anymore either but they're good kid's shit. i liked spirited away and something called I CAN HEAR THE SEA or something. persepolis is watchable but i would just read the book. i mean, i did read the book before the movie so i dunno my perspective is probably colored. steel was like HEH ITS AWFUL but no i disagree.
um. people often rave about now and then, here and there. i don't know if it's good or just ANIME GOOD but it's worth checking out. i actually have it burned to dvd but never watched it (you would be astounded by how much anime i had the forethought to download and burn to dvd before i stopped giving a shit about any of it. it seems like a waste; maybe someday i will find the right nerd to pass it onto...). i wouldn't suggest serial experiments lain, from what i remember of it. this could be because i was an idiot at the time i watched it (entirely possible) but i remember it being kind of a stupid convoluted piece of shit. like it seemed intellectual in the same way like... EVANGELION is intellectual. just a big confusing mess to try to create the illusion of depth so people would wax philosophical about its meaning. in hindsight, maybe it's good. the animation certainly was. but i dunno, it could easily just be really bad and xenosaga-like, except replace religion with technology.
don't let crazy animation fool you. a lot of those shows are still kinda dumb in spite of that. i used to be a pretty big fan of MONSTER, but i don't know how good it is now. i never finished it. it was definitely a cut above the rest. again that's a matter of not knowing if it's good or ANIME GOOD. i thought planetes was pretty good and rowain liked it too but that's not really the same type of thing as any of this at all and it is probably too ANIME for you i suspect. to be fair i have a soft spot for hard scifi and SLICE OF LIFE shit with characters who actually resemble real humans so fair warning. but, still maybe something to wikipedia and see if you are INTERESTED. i'm not even sure if by "in this area" you mean LEGIT GOOD or good and also.......psychological.
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steel was like HEH ITS AWFUL
it's definitely boring, but idk about AWFUL, but a qualifier I forgot: I was doing chemo when I saw it. however, I never thought movies were BORING on chemo, I would often see movies and be like THIS IS GOOD BUT...WATS GOING ON.
do you know how bored i have to be by a movie to not finish it? there are like two movies that i have ever done this with
I do this all the time!
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I don't not finish movies very often but that's mainly because I only watch movies I know I'm going to at least partly like (this is a bad strategy for movie watching)
The one movie I did that that really sticks out in my memory was Clerks 2 because me and the friend I was watching it with both said "Fuck this movie." at the precise same second, looked at each other then silently turned it off.
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clerks 2 fucking blew
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who are you talking to
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i say this everytime a topic like this comes up but...
Kaiba's pretty great and made by the guy who did mindgame
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who are you talking to
nobody, nevermind.
Kaiba's pretty great and made by the guy who did mindgame
I'll check this later, then.
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wait what exactly are you looking for? like INTERESTING ANIMATION (art-wise) or what?
i mean if it's the actual animation itself you're looking for i really liked arashi no yoru ni but if it's things along the same sort of plot then it's a lot more fox and the hound and a lot less weird shit going on (hint: when i say fox and the hound i literally mean that is pretty much what it is, it's definitely a kids film so don't be confused about it)
besides that i can't think of anything to recommend that hasn't already been
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I don't really care about the animation there is just something about animation itself I like cos there is an atmosphere you can only create with that. Really I'm just looking for good animation, I don't really care if it is sci-fi, fantasy or realistic. Just if it is good. I'm open to watch anything people would recommend as good.
There are a few things in this topic which I already knew about but haven't seen and there are a few things which I haven't really heard of that I might check out sometime in the next week. I've seen a couple of Ghibli films. I liked Spirited Away it was pretty good, and I liked Nausicca too. I think those are the only two I have seen.
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lol were you drunkposting again
also, if you liked nausicaa, you'd probably like them all. ALSO also, monster has kind of fantastic animation in a way. it is fairly realistic or whatever but the way they do the lighting and the faces... idk. like there is this one scene early on where he's with his fiancee and she's a cold bitch and even though she's attractive she suddenly seems really GROTESQUE simply by the way the light is playing on her face. they do that kind of thing a lot. i liked it
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actually I can't remember if it is nausicaa or laputa i saw. what is the one with the huge monsters who live in the desert? cos i thought they were really cool when i saw it and I liked the whole world is dead except from the valley
wait, it was nausicaa, then. valley of the wind.
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has no one seen this Howl's Moving Castle thing btw? I haven't either but I thought one of you must have.
also in your attempt to find HEH ANIMES: do NOT watch Steamboy. oh my god that was a genuinely attractive but HORRIBLY PACED piece of shit.
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i've seen howl's moving castle. a bunch of times because other people wanted to see it too. it's okay. sometimes it feels contrived. it's not one of miyazaki's best works, but it gets points for having a super old lady as the main character, for the most part. the ending is super rushed.
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howl's is more for kids. as in, it's not very SATISFYING to an adult like Spirited Away is. it's a fairytale. looks really good tho
there's a new miyazaki coming out in the US this august btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponyo_on_the_Cliff_by_the_Sea
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man you've got to at least admit all anime titles are epic
Howl's Moving Castle - what a moving castle that's impossible oh wait it belongs to Howl that makes everything clear now (also wasn't it a FLYING castle or something)
yeah I do think there needs to be a universal list of anime worth caring about even if you don't like anime - I'm kind of nostalgic for like 15 years ago when anime was this underground thing and the only things that any western person heard about was always interesting if not good stuff like Akira now it's like ridiculously mainstream, wasn't it like impossible to even find anime during that time period except by like ordering from Time/Life or having some friend who went to Japan now you can go to Borders or FYE or some other gay anime vendor
that Thief and the Cobbler cartoon looks pretty awesome, what's the story behind that? I'm guessing it's not some Disney thing but it seems REALLY FAMILIAR from somewhere else, but I don't think I've ever actually seen it either, just bits of it
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howl's is more for kids. as in, it's not very SATISFYING to an adult like Spirited Away is. it's a fairytale. looks really good tho
there's a new miyazaki coming out in the US this august btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponyo_on_the_Cliff_by_the_Sea
That's because nothing that happens is even remotely relatable and it doesn't have a real ending.
It was so pretty though.
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has no one seen this Howl's Moving Castle thing btw? I haven't either but I thought one of you must have.
also in your attempt to find HEH ANIMES: do NOT watch Steamboy. oh my god that was a genuinely attractive but HORRIBLY PACED piece of shit.
the book was my favorite book while i was younger so i hated it because it wasn't close enough to the book.
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that Thief and the Cobbler cartoon looks pretty awesome, what's the story behind that? I'm guessing it's not some Disney thing but it seems REALLY FAMILIAR from somewhere else, but I don't think I've ever actually seen it either, just bits of it
so richard williams is this genius animator, right (he wrote the highly popular Animator's Survival Kit). well, he was animating this masterpiece called "the thief and the cobbler" and it took him like 30 years. then wb decided he needs to finish the damn thing and they took his project and sent it off to some cheap animators in korea to finish up. well in the process the korean animators decided to either discard all of willams's hard work or put it in some obscure vault or something. it took a while but people have been able to recover most of williams's original animation (and there's a LOT) and it's up on youtube now. it's pretty cool. this is a generalization though and some parts are probably wrong. also it's not anime but this topic hasn't been really specific, we've all just been listing animes
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I am embarassed by this but I really enjoyed totoro. I recommend it if you are in a kiddy kind of mood i guess.
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I watched the second Ghost in the Shell movie and I recommend you don't watch it because it is boring, and uninterestingly bleak with 2 3rds of the entire movie being nothing but exchanges of asian metaphors. Granted I didn't know what Ghost in the Shell was when I watched it.
Howl's Flying Castle is interesting, with the fattest woman you've ever seen having a race up a huge stairwell to a palace entrance with the old woman (cursed by said fat lady) and it was really entertaining. Never really clear of how the old woman got rid of the curse though.
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Night on the Galactic Railroad
Night on the Galactic Railroad (銀河鉄道の夜, Ginga Tetsudō no Yoru?), sometimes translated as Milky Way Railroad, Night Train to the Stars, or Fantasy Railroad In The Stars,[2] is a classic Japanese novel by Kenji Miyazawa written around 1927. The nine-chapter novel was posthumously published in 1934 as part of Complete Works of Kenji Miyazawa Vol. 3 (『宮沢賢治全集』第三巻?) published by Bunpodō (文圃堂?).[3] Four versions are known to be in existence, with the last one being the most famous among Japanese readers.[4]
The novel was adapted as an 1985 anime film of the same title, as well as various stage musicals and plays.
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Higurashi no Naku Koro ni ("When the Cicadas Cry").
it's an amazing anime series. i have seen the entire thing twice because i liked it so much and wanted to watch it with my best friend. basically, it's about little kids killing each other. but it's got a great story. at first you'll be reaaaally confused and freaked out. there's quite a few torture scenes, but rest assured, the violence is all justified and is not like Elfen Lied or anything, where they have gore just for the sake of gore. anyways, it's ridiculously confusing at first. but as it goes on, you start to form ideas of how things work and exactly what really is happening, etc... it has a somewhat conclusive ending to the first season, and then there are 24 more episodes in the 2nd one, titled Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai. that provides answers to unresolved questions. introduces new characters, and finishes off the series. it's great. You should DEFINITELY watch Higurashi-- both seasons.
also, a third season (starring different characters and situations and everything, yet still somehow related it seems) will start airing (in Japan) in July. it's called Umineko no Naku Koro ni, or, "When the Seagulls Cry".
so yeah, watch Higurashi because it's amazing~ :D
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why does it have to look completely terrible
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oh god i just looked it up and you're right that does look terrible
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also now and then, here and there is actually p. good. i mean it's like sci-fi time travel lol generic protagonist but then it becomes all serious and unforgiving and is more realistic about war than any other anime that exists. but it's really sad. it's very very sad. it's the only anime i've cried at. i know it sounds pathetic but i couldn't help it. nobody cries at animes. but this one? i think people cry. it's sad. animation-wise, though, it definitely isn't the best.
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to her credit it sounds awful too. ninjapirate had the blue haired one as his avatar for a while. but look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shirakawa,_Gifu_image.jpg what is that, rice? man look at that.
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Higurashi is pretty good plot-wise, and the premise is also pretty good (crazy lolis killing each other), but it isn't exactly the best series in terms of animation. Not even still shots of the anime look good. I also kind of like the fact that the otaku that bought the original visual novel were expecting a dating sim, but got a horror "game" instead.
In terms of animation, you could try Gankutsuou, basically "The Count of Montecristo" in a pseudo-futuristic age. I've never watched it, but I really want to. Here's a vid:
As for other cool shows animation-wise, try Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Soul Eater. Both are over the top (on purpose) and have great animation and music.
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mmm lolis killin each other....sounds utterly brilliant
gankutsuou really did look awesome though
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too bad it probably butchered the book the same way Romeo X Juliet undoubtedly butchered the play
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Ninja Scroll is a pretty well-known movie that I'm a fan of. It's not insanely awesome by any means, but it's got an interesting plot and good animation. I think it's kind of grown on me over the years, so this may be biased. I remember watching it in middle school for the first time and being just utterly shocked to see such blatant violence and sexuality in a cartoon.
I don't think anyone's mentioned Gantz, either. I watched Season 1 a couple years ago and found it pretty entertaining.
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too bad it probably butchered the book the same way Romeo X Juliet undoubtedly butchered the play
I've heard some bad things about Romeo x Juliet, but not really Gankutsuou. Haven't watched either so I can't say for sure.
I'm not sure stuff like Ninja Scroll and Gantz is what he's looking for. I mean I like Gantz and all, but from what I've seen of the anime it's animation looks bad. I think what he's looking for is stuff that's animated in an original, unique way, or shows with just plain good animation.
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yeah neither of those are what he's looking for. gantz kind of looks nice but it isn't very good i don't think. ninja scroll is ninja scroll. you really should watch kemonozume tho
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gankutsuou borrows liberally from dumas, but its not as much a plagiat as it is a pastich! of course theres japanese confusion and the following adapation doesnt ring as true as it could've, but it's different.
viewed as a stand-alone story with some monte cristo cameos and analogies, however, it's a treat! and man oh man, the animation style might just be one of the better eye candies i've ever feasted on.
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I know this isnt really the place... but.
Anyone checked the new Advent Children ("Complete")? somewhere around 40 minutes of new material
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I watched paprika yesterday. it's really really similar to paranoia agent, they are almost the same thing in every aspect
I think paprika was better. idk paranoia agent was a really good series most of the time, but some of the episodes in the middle started to get boring and I was disappointed with the ending. the whole expanding maromi thing, now this guy is the new old guy, nothing has changed history repeats itself, it was dumb. the nothing changes/repeating history is a pretty widely accepted concept in like all asian cultures tho, it's probably supposed to be more of a matter of fact.
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Why no mention of Millennium Actress? It's the best Satoshi Kon movie imo.
Also Tekkonkinkreet is pretty good. Here's a shitty trailer.
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I think I own an artbook for Tekkonkinkreet. If it really is the one I am thinking of then this movie should be pretty rad from a visual standpoint.
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tekkon kinkreet looks really nice. yeah I thought I recognized the style, wikipedia says it's animated by the same guys as mindgame. I wanna watch it, I'm gonna dl millennium actress too.