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Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 01, 2009, 04:33:16 pm
I have been looking at this game for quite some time now and it looks interesting. This game is going to be basically an RPG/FPS game that plays like any fast paced first person shooter, has some RPG elements similar to Mass Effect, and has the loot drops and dungeon exploring like Diablo. I don't know too much about the game as of yet other than the couple of videos, screenshots, and info from http://borderlandsguide.com/ but from what I have been seeing it does look promising. Plus the promise of almost a million weapons is pretty damn cool, but I think that this many weapons might make it's release date further away. Heres why, they use some sort of random weapon generator to develop all the weapons and they literally need to find them all to test them out and make sure everything is working smoothly, and with almost a million weapons, this could take a long time. Here are some videos and screenshots:
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2600/borderlands.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borderlands.jpg)
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/img294.imageshack.us/img294/4757/borderlandsss4fullprevi.jpeg) (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borderlandsss4fullprevi.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6180/borderlandsss6fullprevi.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=borderlandsss6fullprevi.jpg)
10 minute gameplay(this was an early play through, the art style has changed since then): http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/borderlands-10min-gameplay/301719
E3 09 trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-borderlands/49925
So what do you guys think?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: xanque on June 01, 2009, 05:54:19 pm
That's the name!  I've been trying to find this game for weeks now.  I heard about it a while ago, and it sounds awesome.  It seems to have a bit of everything in it, but really ambitious projects like this make me kind of weary. 

I'm looking forward to it though!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 01, 2009, 08:36:56 pm
Heres hoping for a release date and some more footage at E3 :D
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Kaempfer on June 02, 2009, 03:38:32 pm
In some ways Borderlands look really really promising, but I hope they don't focus on the crazy monsters and mutants too much. I don't have any problems with monsters, but I don't want them to lose the post-apocalyptic feel it has going for it by throwing nonstop hordes at the player.

Any news on multiplayer or anything like that? I actually liked Blue Shift and Opposing Force (the only other two Gearbox games I can think of!) so I will probably pick this up on release depending on how lengthy it is.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 02, 2009, 07:10:25 pm
It will have multiplayer, from what I hear its 4 player co-op but no news on competitive play yet....then again it doesn't really need one...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rajew on June 03, 2009, 06:37:24 am
Only a million weapons? That's not quite enough.

I remember reading some interview with a developer talking about how they were finding all kinds of rad guns (they're procedurally generated so not even the creators know whats gonna happen!) and they mentioned a rifle that did nothing except for paint a target with a laser. They were confused as to what was happening, like "What, it just has a laser sight? no bullets? huh?" and then they discovered if they held the laser pointer over a target for ~3 seconds they exploded violently. That is a gun. That is the gun I want to get.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Standard Toaster on June 03, 2009, 04:46:22 pm
that sounds like it could lead to some really unbalanced weapons, like 1 million damage per shot uzi or something
Title: Borderlands
Post by: maladroithim on June 03, 2009, 04:50:11 pm
The new look of this game is excellent.  I'm really looking forward to it.  Any word on a release date?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on June 03, 2009, 06:54:40 pm
i thought it saw something about q3 2009 but that sounds like it is way too early so i would seem to doubt that date

this looks pretty promising
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on June 05, 2009, 08:39:33 am
Yeah I have been looking at this game ever since I saw early gameplay like a year ago. Now that they've updated the art style I am REALLY liking the look of it.

I think I read somewhere that one of the cooler random guns they found was a revolver that shot shotgun shells, or something like that anyway.

The idea of an RPS is quite cool, and from what I've seen it could make for a fun game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on June 05, 2009, 09:17:21 am
These randomly generated guns sound like they could be allot of fun.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 10, 2009, 12:09:30 am
The release date has been set to October, and i was mistaken as gearbox claimed that it is "over half a million weapons" which is still a great amount. There is some E3 footage I found just a few minutes ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHJ8VudWF1o&feature=channel_page
The narrator is German so I have no clue what the hell he is saying, but the game play spoke for itself. Gearbox promised that the game will have about 30 story quests and 160 side quests, a big skill tree for each character, and as all of you who looked at this game obviously know, lots of guns.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on June 10, 2009, 10:23:13 am
I think this game looks freaking excellent now that Liquid Ocelot linked that video, I reckon I'll preorder this as soon as I can.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on June 10, 2009, 08:32:05 pm
Another video: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-borderlands/51347 every time i look at this game, it just looks like it is getting better and better. The only thing that irks me about this interview video is that the president of gearbox is kind of repeating things he said exactly when he showed off the game at GDC 08.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on September 17, 2009, 09:22:08 pm
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-borderlands/56123?type=flv#comment_head_text
Well the release date for this game is nearing, I just recently reserved the game so I will get it when it comes out(hopefully my xbox will be repaired by then). Anyone else still getting it?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Warped655 on September 17, 2009, 10:08:39 pm
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-hd-borderlands/56124

Preview by GT. I wasn't excited for it till I saw this. It looks really fun.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: esp on September 17, 2009, 10:37:07 pm
Really excited about this one. Three of my friends are getting it so it should be pretty fun to play it co-op.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: swordofkings128 on September 17, 2009, 11:16:37 pm
the art style is reaaaaally nice, this is what they should be doing with all that new fangled hardware and stuff.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on September 18, 2009, 12:29:47 am
the art style is reaaaaally nice, this is what they should be doing with all that new fangled hardware and stuff.
I agree, the new art direction is much better than the old one. I believe it uses the Unreal Engine as well which is nice too but I hope I don't see too much pop in(like in games like Gears of War, Bioshock, and ESPECIALLY Unreal Tournament 3). The only thing that worries me is the enemy AI, granted it looks better than Fallout 3's dumb ass enemies but they still show off some oddities like just standing there in the wide open shooting or not doing anything at all for a couple of seconds(which i really only saw with the "skagg" enemies thankfully).
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on September 18, 2009, 12:45:17 am
the gun system is hilarious. it just literally takes a bunch of words and mashes them together

CANNONBALL REVOLVER OF EXPLOSIONS

yes now you can have a revolver that fires cannonball ammo and causes explosions. thats logical!!

sign me up twice
Title: Borderlands
Post by: big ass skelly on September 18, 2009, 01:10:18 am
the gun system is hilarious. it just literally takes a bunch of words and mashes them together

CANNONBALL REVOLVER OF EXPLOSIONS

yes now you can have a revolver that fires cannonball ammo and causes explosions. thats logical!!

sign me up twice
Someone's been leaking secrets from the tales of game's forum
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on September 18, 2009, 01:14:43 am
..what?

I read about these just...

wait, no, im not gonna bother until i know:

what????
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on September 18, 2009, 08:08:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VMhNUIiM7U
heres another hands on preview, this time showcasing one of the bosses(who looks REALLY easy, probably the 1st boss).
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on September 20, 2009, 10:10:19 pm
Games gonna be fucking amazing, I've preordered it and already have co-op planned.

I recall reading somewhere that there are 17 million odd weapons, Gearbox showed a reporter via the debug menu.

Awesome.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on September 20, 2009, 10:33:04 pm
Yeah, I'm definitely interested in seeing how this turns out. I'm not going to preorder it, but I think I'll buy it a day or two later after I hear some initial impressions.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on September 20, 2009, 10:57:05 pm
Yeah, I'm definitely interested in seeing how this turns out. I'm not going to preorder it, but I think I'll buy it a day or two later after I hear some initial impressions.
http://borderlandsguide.com/forum/borderlands-nda-lifted this is one of the closest things you will get to an initial impression at the moment, but since he only played like an hour or 2 of the game and it probably wasn't the full build, then it might not be as trustworthy. He did answer some questions though with some interesting answers.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Mongoloid on September 21, 2009, 02:17:37 am
To me it looks like this game might not be everything it wants to be, but still looks to be pretty good!

I keep coming back here and looking all over for updates but these guys arent doing very well promoting right now! I think I'm going to preorder it but I'd really like to see more first!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Kaempfer on September 21, 2009, 04:15:38 am
I hope this comes out over Steam. I might buy it in box, but I'd prefer to use Steam. I can't see why Gearbox wouldn't release it over Steam when Valve and Gearbox have worked so closely together in the past: maybe they had a falling out? I hope not, since this looks really good.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Peterbndrs on September 23, 2009, 11:56:39 am
The graphics look cool in this. great effort put in!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Chubby Skelly on October 01, 2009, 01:27:00 am
I hope this comes out over Steam. I might buy it in box, but I'd prefer to use Steam. I can't see why Gearbox wouldn't release it over Steam when Valve and Gearbox have worked so closely together in the past: maybe they had a falling out? I hope not, since this looks really good.

You're in luck, my friend! (http://www.destructoid.com/borderlands-will-release-on-steam-have-extra-features-150208.phtml)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 10, 2009, 09:50:30 pm
http://borderlandsguide.com/news/borderlands-goes-gold
Thats right, borderlands has gone gold which is great news. I am just glad that they aren't delaying the console ones like they did with the PC one(heh, my computer is so ass that it probably couldn't run it anyway) and I will be playing it all afternoon when it comes out in 10 days, I am so psyched!
Edit: I will just throw a rather recent video in here for good measure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYam0LGfxoU
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 10, 2009, 11:03:52 pm
Just preordered this, in that case. I'll put my details here when it goes live, maybe we can have some GW gamez.......

Edit: I wonder if it'll have cross-platform multiplayer? I doubt it, but w/e. I preordered it for PC.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 11, 2009, 03:26:42 am
idk if I want to BUY this

I have my list of games to BUY planned out and I really wouldn't want to branch out on more games


but i guess with demon's souls being out i am already going to branch out so eh why not

but i'll wait to see if it's good before getting it

but if i get it let's play it up buckos
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 12, 2009, 12:09:18 am
My pc keeps getting f*ucked up when ever it comes to online play, so I was thinking about getting this for my ps3 but worried im gonna get screwed over in the same way I got screwed with Fallout on the ps3. The pc version got all those extra addons ect to extend the game and ps3 owners were left stuck at lv20....
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 12, 2009, 11:58:19 am
Jester: Hells yeah man, let's have a game or two when it's out!

I preordered via steam, because it was forty dollars cheaper than buying it from a store in town. So I get it on the 27th as far as I know. . .
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 13, 2009, 02:26:47 am
I myself am getting it on the 360 and then eventually the PS3. I saw a review score online from OXM and it got an 8.5, not bad.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 13, 2009, 05:07:25 am
im gonna get this game
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 13, 2009, 05:13:58 am
me 2
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Mongoloid on October 13, 2009, 06:22:19 am
you know a good is good when nobody has anything to say other than i can't wait to play it

let's talk about this game people
really i think the class thing is pretty stupid
this game looks amazing except for one thing: big bruiser guy who doesn't yse guns? instead you fun around and punch people? what a stupid idea. also this game sounds awfully like a juiced up Brute Force. really the sniper gets a hawk to fly around and attack? come on this game will be pretty good but it looks to me like there is at least one total dumbass working for that dev company.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 13, 2009, 07:11:57 am
the brute can use more than fists, he just goes berserk and uses them

pay attention man, pay attention
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 13, 2009, 07:31:36 am
If you play as Brick you don't have to use your fists, but due to his skill tree he probably levels up and gets certain skills that are to do with his fists.

I myself am going to start playing as Roland first off, cause I always play medic/soldier classes in any fps or rpg. I also want to try out Mordecai, specifically to have a look at his Gunslinger Skill Tree.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 13, 2009, 09:13:29 am
I myself am getting it on the 360 and then eventually the PS3.
Why? Why are you actually planning to get it for two consoles?

I'm going to be the sniper as I'm a sniper in every game that allows it. Except TF2.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 13, 2009, 07:08:15 pm
Why? Why are you actually planning to get it for two consoles?
Actually I am still kind of debating whether or not I should get it on the PS3. It depends on how amazing the game is or how many of my friends with a PS3 is getting it but like I said, I don't know yet.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: scifibunny on October 14, 2009, 11:03:22 pm
Is it an MMORPG?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 15, 2009, 01:39:49 am
If in the sense of diablo, yeah but in the sense of games like WoW where you see thousands of players at once then no.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 15, 2009, 02:43:00 am
diablo is not an mmorpg you dumbo
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 15, 2009, 03:30:15 am
lmao diablo is like the exact opposite of an MMO
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 15, 2009, 10:24:13 am
lmao diablo is like the exact opposite of an MMO
I'd say playing cards by yourself in the middle of the woods is the opposite of a MMO.

Diablo is still pretty far from it, tho.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on October 15, 2009, 03:44:03 pm
And yet if they ever did take Diablo and make it's setting into a full-fledged MMORPG, I highly doubt there would be that many dissenting opinions on the matter.

You wouldn't be playing cards in the woods though, there are plenty of woods in World of Warcraft to do things by yourself in, so it wouldn't quite be the exact opposite. Maybe in a cave or something- that one won't work either! Damn.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 15, 2009, 04:55:48 pm
like the only redeeming factor about diablo is that it isn't online.  I mean, its boring, point and click and like doesn't have really anything interesting going for it, but when you play it, you can at least be like "ahhhh... at least I don't have to put up with twits on the internet."
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 15, 2009, 07:45:19 pm
like the only redeeming factor about diablo is that it isn't online.  I mean, its boring, point and click and like doesn't have really anything interesting going for it, but when you play it, you can at least be like "ahhhh... at least I don't have to put up with twits on the internet."
you know most people who like diablo play it online, right?

im an ape skelly boo
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 15, 2009, 07:55:55 pm
The best part about Diablo is online but I hate those stereotypical Spanish PK'ers that seem to piss me off.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 16, 2009, 12:29:51 am
lmao diablo is like the exact opposite of an MMO
Yeah I guess you are right, its not exactly an MMO when you play with just 8 players a party :/. Oh well, anyway GiantBomb had a 30 minute preview of doing some instances and just general party play. Here it is: http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-borderlands/17-1498/ Could hold me over till tuesday I guess.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 16, 2009, 01:26:39 am
I'm mad because I have to choose between this or Ratchet and Clank.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 17, 2009, 04:44:24 pm
This guy was playing Borderlands for 20 hours straight and did a live feed of it last night. You can view the video archives here: http://www.justin.tv/brandon505/all?kind=all&filter=all&order=most_recent
There are 80 videos, plenty enough to hold the most anxious over till Tuesday XD.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 17, 2009, 05:38:27 pm
"Much like Batman: Arkham Asylum's sale price during its initial release, Canadian retailers are giving players a break with the upcoming shooter Borderlands. For a limited time, Futureshop, Walmart and Best Buy are offering the Gearbox title for the discounted price of $39.96 on both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Borderlands hits stores on October 20, giving Canadians plenty of time to dig out of their snow covered homes."

The site I got this from http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/17/canadians-can-enter-the-borderlands-for-40/
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Beasley on October 17, 2009, 06:09:03 pm
that opening scene is actually really cool
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 17, 2009, 06:13:25 pm
jesus christ man, I'd get it at that price in a heartbeat, but I want it for PC damnit


fuck
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 17, 2009, 06:21:37 pm
jesus christ man, I'd get it at that price in a heartbeat, but I want it for PC damnit


fuck

You're in luck. If you get a 4 pack through steam, it comes out to 33.75(US). You just need to find 3 other people... Incidentally; I wouldn't mind going in for a four pack with three other people.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 17, 2009, 07:37:02 pm
I'd be interested in doing that as well.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 17, 2009, 07:50:17 pm
Providing Mr. L is up for it, we'd need just one more. A lot of others have been doing stuff like this through paypal. Being that this is my idea; I guess I'll have to set it up.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: yugi on October 17, 2009, 07:54:07 pm
Been watching someone play the game for most of today.
Looks really awesome, but there is a few problems I saw with it.

Firstly, there seems to be a lack of variety with a lot of stuff.
Sure the game might have 90 billion guns or whatever, but most of them look or act similar to all the others, and there is very few unique guns.
Enemies also lack variety. There is big bandits, medium bandits and midget bandits, flying monsters, dog monsters and spider monsters. That is literally all I saw in the game while watching for maybe 5-6 hours.
All the areas look fairly similar too.


The game also seems way too easy. Apparently, there is no difficulty slider, and the person I was watching play the game was easily able to run around and gun down any enemy without much difficulty. Despite playing as the weakest character (in terms of how much damage they can take and weapons they can specialize in) and would rarely bother upgrading weapons, or even spending skill points on new skills.
He only had difficulty with one quest, and he finished that by abusing the second wind system (when you die you have like 10s before you actually die, in those 10s you are invincible but cannot move and have decreased accuracy, if you manage to kill anything, even one grunt that can be killed in one hit, you auto revive with a good percentage of your health and shield back, you can pretty much do this until all enemies in an area are dead).


Also, the version I was watching being played xbox 360) had really long loading times. But areas were fairly big and you could easily spend an hour or longer in them.

Also, single player in the game does not seem to be as long as it should be. Including doing all side quests, he was probably 80-90% through the game at around 17 hours.


I would advise you all get the PC version of the game if possible. If only for the fact that possible mods could fix the issue of difficulty and maybe even add more stuff to the game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 17, 2009, 08:39:42 pm
The weapons have much more variety later on, it really all depends on the rarity and even still each weapon has at least one unique thing about them(like a shotgun that rapidly shoots two shells at once for example or an explosive barret-looking sniper) but usually the least rare weapons tend to not have the most uniqueness but thankfully the blue weapons which are the second most common weapons have more variety and those are rather common too. Plus you only watched 5 hours, there is much more to see later on and there are more areas to explore including the rust commons and snowy mountain areas. The load times don't seem terrible from what I was watching, and even if it is sometimes its still understandable because the game basically instances enemy and loot area spawns plus each area is relatively big. Finally, 17 hours? Really? He was probably not doing side quests and just rushing through the main story missions, the person I was watching took at least 15 hours to finish every quest in arid wastelands(at least I think it was every quest) and then he moved on to rust commons and he barely scratched the surface of the side quests there.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 17, 2009, 08:41:46 pm
Been watching someone play the game for most of today.
Looks really awesome, but there is a few problems I saw with it.

Firstly, there seems to be a lack of variety with a lot of stuff.
Sure the game might have 90 billion guns or whatever, but most of them look or act similar to all the others, and there is very few unique guns.
Enemies also lack variety. There is big bandits, medium bandits and midget bandits, flying monsters, dog monsters and spider monsters. That is literally all I saw in the game while watching for maybe 5-6 hours.
All the areas look fairly similar too.


The game also seems way too easy. Apparently, there is no difficulty slider, and the person I was watching play the game was easily able to run around and gun down any enemy without much difficulty. Despite playing as the weakest character (in terms of how much damage they can take and weapons they can specialize in) and would rarely bother upgrading weapons, or even spending skill points on new skills.
He only had difficulty with one quest, and he finished that by abusing the second wind system (when you die you have like 10s before you actually die, in those 10s you are invincible but cannot move and have decreased accuracy, if you manage to kill anything, even one grunt that can be killed in one hit, you auto revive with a good percentage of your health and shield back, you can pretty much do this until all enemies in an area are dead).


Also, the version I was watching being played xbox 360) had really long loading times. But areas were fairly big and you could easily spend an hour or longer in them.

Also, single player in the game does not seem to be as long as it should be. Including doing all side quests, he was probably 80-90% through the game at around 17 hours.


I would advise you all get the PC version of the game if possible. If only for the fact that possible mods could fix the issue of difficulty and maybe even add more stuff to the game.

He was playing single player, if I understand correctly the difficulty scales the more people you play with.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 17, 2009, 08:44:43 pm
I hear of a new game+ mode as well which ups the difficulty too.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Raimiette on October 17, 2009, 09:29:20 pm
You're in luck. If you get a 4 pack through steam, it comes out to 33.75(US). You just need to find 3 other people... Incidentally; I wouldn't mind going in for a four pack with three other people.

I am totally up for this if there's still an available spot.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Dead Phoenix on October 17, 2009, 09:42:05 pm


Also, single player in the game does not seem to be as long as it should be. Including doing all side quests, he was probably 80-90% through the game at around 17 hours.

i was watching bradon's live feed(the one Liquid Ocelot linked to) last night, and the Gearbox devs(4+ showed up, including at least one who didn't even work on Borderlands) in the chat said he was only about halfway though the game at 16-17 hours in.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 17, 2009, 09:42:34 pm
I'll PM Mr.L to see if I can get confirmation from him. If I can; I'll set things up.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 17, 2009, 09:50:03 pm
I have this game and it is not that easy.

Well, it really depends on when you take your quests (each quests shows its difficulty depending on your level). I've ran into about 3 or 4 that pushed my limits. Seriously, there will be about 5-10 enemies on screen shooting you at once, and they take ages to kill if they're at the same level as you. I'm playing as Lilith, so she can't just rush in there guns blazing most of the time. It's absolutely crucial you spend points on the skill tree. With Lilith, her shock and stun attack in phasing mode is very useful as it slows the enemy down so you're able to run back and pull off some shots on them. The Second Wind system isn't that bad, it's only useful if you're not in a boss fight (where you will die the most). Sometimes shit just pops out of nowhere in this game and you die ridiculously quick, so second wind comes in handy in situations like that. Guns are mostly similar, but the ones with elemental attributes are the ones you should get.

I have a really cool burst fire rocket launcher which is really good.

Also yes this game has absolutely no variety. You will do quests, that is all. There is some dumb story about the vault but it's bullshit and they obviously tacked it on near the end of production. It's pretty much Diablo. Most of the areas are bland as well. I've only gone through one really cool place which was some hideout, but I'm only maybe 6 hours in so we'll see if that changes.

also upgrade your backpack capacity because it is the single most important thing in this game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 17, 2009, 09:53:18 pm
I'm here, just not watching 24/7

But yeah, I'm probably interested in the 4-way rebate for Borderlands. Count me in.



ps: don't try to contact me in the following hours, I will be working.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 17, 2009, 10:13:49 pm
I'm here, just not watching 24/7

But yeah, I'm probably interested in the 4-way rebate for Borderlands. Count me in.



ps: don't try to contact me in the following hours, I will be working.

When is a good time for you then?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Farren on October 18, 2009, 12:44:27 am
I don't know what this is about or the gameplay or anything other than it looks cool and gots lots of guns

yeah I'm gettin it when I get home

PHSHH *chumpschange
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 18, 2009, 02:39:11 am
We should all add each other as friends on steam if it isn't already done

I know I have Nightblade on Steam, but.. that's it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 02:59:08 am
To those who were interested earlier, please post your steam names. We can work out the details after that.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Raimiette on October 18, 2009, 04:15:18 am
Mine is Raimiette.  I have the same name for everything because I can't be bothered to come up with something original...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 18, 2009, 04:18:04 am
Farmrush
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 04:30:34 am
Alright. Everyone is added... Now to figure out how to go about this.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 18, 2009, 05:08:18 am
Apparently a fair few BestBuys have broken the street date and released it. Also, the PC release date is apparently now the 20th, but release dates are all over the place, even on the official Gearbox pages.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 18, 2009, 10:19:45 am
I'm just annoyed as fuck that I have to wait another week till it unlocks on Steam for me, I prepurchased like two and half weeks ago and I can't play yet D:

The game is looking real good, and if an SDK is released (they hinted at one as far as I know) then I'm pretty sure there'd be some sweet mods coming out.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 18, 2009, 05:06:48 pm
Nightblade, and all others related to this four-pack deal, hear this out.

The way the four-pack deal works is one guy has to pre-order 4 copies of the game and send out 3 as  gifts. :|


Idk if anyone is up for shelling out 134$ and wait to be paid back through like paypal or something for this, but I know if it does happen I won't be the one buying the 4 copies.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 18, 2009, 05:30:26 pm
Nightblade, and all others related to this four-pack deal, hear this out.

The way the four-pack deal works is one guy has to pre-order 4 copies of the game and send out 3 as  gifts. :|


Idk if anyone is up for shelling out 134$ and wait to be paid back through like paypal or something for this, but I know if it does happen I won't be the one buying the 4 copies.

What? Everyone just gives their $34 or whatever $$ to that person and he just buys it with the money. Why would one person spend their own $134 and hope to get paid back?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 05:37:28 pm
Nightblade, and all others related to this four-pack deal, hear this out.

The way the four-pack deal works is one guy has to pre-order 4 copies of the game and send out 3 as  gifts. :|


Idk if anyone is up for shelling out 134$ and wait to be paid back through like paypal or something for this, but I know if it does happen I won't be the one buying the 4 copies.

You can buy stuff through steam with paypal, so yeah; everyone would just put in their share... Im not sure how to go about it yet. Im going to look into setting it up now.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 18, 2009, 05:53:00 pm
I am not versed with the ways of paypal.

That said, if you do get it working, I can make a paypal account and join in.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 06:05:17 pm
Well, I have a paypal account set up already. All you guys really need to do at this point is send 33.75 to my paypal account at [email protected]

After I get all the money I can grab the game off steam and gift you guys your copies. Its actually much simpler than I thought it would be. So if you don't already, you're all going to have to make a paypal account for this.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 18, 2009, 06:22:09 pm
I'm just waiting for Paypal to get the money from my bank account so it might be a few days, but yeah~

inb4 Nightblade disappears with all our money
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Raimiette on October 18, 2009, 06:28:25 pm
Well, I have a paypal account set up already. All you guys really need to do at this point is send 33.75 to my paypal account at [email protected]

After I get all the money I can grab the game off steam and gift you guys your copies. Its actually much simpler than I thought it would be. So if you don't already, you're all going to have to make a paypal account for this.

Hey there, I just sent you the money.  lol I hope your Marco or else some other person just got my monies... :)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 06:38:31 pm
Hey there, I just sent you the money.  lol I hope your Marco or else some other person just got my monies... :)

Yes, I have your money. Two more to go.

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I'm just waiting for Paypal to get the money from my bank account so it might be a few days, but yeah~

inb4 Nightblade disappears with all our money

Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 18, 2009, 09:40:48 pm
Doble poast

There's speculation (baseless) that the game might be releasing early. The moment I get Mr. L's and Gothic Protector's payment, I'll grab the 4 pack off steam and gift accordingly.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 18, 2009, 11:23:42 pm
I need to make an account and steal funds from my credit card.

Hope that doesn't take as long as using a bank account.


I remember I tried that in the past and the confirmation dollar never reached my account??
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Raimiette on October 19, 2009, 12:36:47 am
I don't really understand why it's taking time to get the money from a bank account.  That is what I did and it happened instantly...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 19, 2009, 12:41:25 am
You are right. I am scamming you.

Paypal says that it will take a few business days, and I don't know if it's just my bank or not, but yeah. It's going to take a few business days.
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Bank transfer    Add Funds From a Bank Account in Canada    6-8 business days Help    Free
Bank transfer    Add Funds From a Bank Account in the United States    3-5 business days Help    Free
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Raimiette on October 19, 2009, 12:52:11 am
Oh I believe you, I just don't get it.  I'm with TD but I have my bank account already linked to my PayPal.  I guess it's different if it's not linked?

Oh also, I didn't add money to my PayPal, I just clicked the "send money" link so maybe that's different too?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 19, 2009, 01:08:49 am
My bank account is linked to my Paypal (although I only did this recently it is CONFIRMED). It's probably just some magical side effect of the bank I'm with.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 19, 2009, 01:12:08 am
My bank account is linked to my Paypal (although I only did this recently it is CONFIRMED). It's probably just some magical side effect of the bank I'm with.

Why dont you try using a credit card, like what Mr. L did? I wouldn't want to have to wait 8 days to get this finished.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 19, 2009, 01:36:34 am
Why dont you try using a credit card, like what Mr. L did? I wouldn't want to have to wait 8 days to get this finished.

I started the transfer last week, and I don't have a credit card (hence the paypal in the first place). If you can't wait a few days, I guess I'm out.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 19, 2009, 02:46:11 am
I started the transfer last week, and I don't have a credit card (hence the paypal in the first place). If you can't wait a few days, I guess I'm out.

I said I wouldnt want to wait "8" days. If it'll only be a day or two more, it's no issue. The game releases in 8 days (or maybe sooner; who the hell knows at this point). I wouldn't want to miss the chance to get this low price. (which expires when the game is released)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 19, 2009, 02:53:11 am
OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 19, 2009, 01:43:21 pm
I just pre-ordered this, couldnt help myself as I was browsing.. I cant remember the last time I pre-ordered a game so im pretty excited. Been browsing the Borderlands website checking out the skill tree for all 4 classes and I still cant decide as to which way I want to go with this.

Heres the link if you want to check out each skill tree, the site takes ages to load.

Brick - http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree/brick/#30000000000000000000000
Lilith - http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree/lilith/#20000000000000000000000
Mordecai - http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree/mordecai/#10000000000000000000000
Roland - http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree/roland/#00000000000000000000000


Edit***

I hope it doesnt end up like Diablo II where everyone goes along 1 specific path which has some kind of massive advantage over everyone else, when I use to play Diablo everyone went for a Paladin and his hammers and it annoyed the hell out of me.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 19, 2009, 03:53:13 pm
page took like 3 seconds to load.  just saying
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 19, 2009, 04:09:32 pm
Must be my laptop then.

Edit**

Also it kinda sucks that I need to play with a female avator if I want to choose the Assassin skill tree which is what I will probably go for.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 19, 2009, 05:56:39 pm
I seem to like Mordecai and Roland but if I had to pick one of them it would be Roland since I think he has a better tech tree... But he might be the equivalent of the old version of wow's Paladin. Over Powered
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 19, 2009, 06:51:34 pm
Must be my laptop then.

Edit**

Also it kinda sucks that I need to play with a female avator if I want to choose the Assassin skill tree which is what I will probably go for.
i know right bro?  fuck the lADies
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 19, 2009, 07:47:39 pm
Does anyone really care whether their character is male or female? Obviously not in the case where there is a choice, but if you were forced into being a character of the opposite sex would that bother you?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 19, 2009, 07:59:13 pm
well im sure normally a person wouldnt but a female assassin avator is dumb
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 19, 2009, 08:22:53 pm
well generally i am disfavorable to avators
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 19, 2009, 11:35:19 pm
!!! KILL ALL AVATORS !!!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 19, 2009, 11:57:30 pm
Fuck Ethem
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 19, 2009, 11:57:42 pm
Fuckole Them in the Avartors
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Farren on October 20, 2009, 01:06:51 am
what the fuck is an avator and massey is a fucking douche

I lvoe playing chic ks make them all chicks with only chicks in it and I killl all the dudes cus one less cock is one less asshole to compete with (hehe right
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 20, 2009, 01:11:51 am
i only play with charss i wanT to 2fck
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 20, 2009, 01:23:19 am
you guys take jokes too far

f gw
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 20, 2009, 03:33:16 am
my best friend's mom was an avator


true story



ps: i killed her
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 20, 2009, 07:23:46 am
Does anyone really care whether their character is male or female? Obviously not in the case where there is a choice, but if you were forced into being a character of the opposite sex would that bother you?

No, but I would much prefer to play with a male character... get all kinds of losers i.e 40+ guys, in mmo's who decide to go for a female character and actually try to act all female with their (Hey hun, and hehe instead of lol) fucking douche's.

If I'm forced to have a female character then I'm going to make sure to give her a name like PeriodFree.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 20, 2009, 10:46:03 am
why would you prefer to stare at a dude's ass over a girl's ass

you some kinda............. gay??
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 20, 2009, 02:25:06 pm
Male avators turn me on, I have a naked picture of an anime hunk on my desktop too.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Vellfire on October 20, 2009, 03:11:10 pm
WAAAAH I HAVE TO PLAY A GIRL IN ONE GAME WHEN GIRLS HAVE TO PLAY DUDES IN THE MAJORITY OF GAMES UGHHHH WHAAAHAHHHHhh


really why would you care
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 20, 2009, 09:00:08 pm
I dont.. but I can still have an opinion on the matter.

Im over it, the girl it is... You will see me running around in the tight pants on monday when Borderland arrives.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 20, 2009, 11:28:00 pm
so ive been playing

its pretty awesome, i have a level 21 hunter


if ya wanna play, add my xbl gamertag: roarimlions
Title: Borderlands
Post by: skarik on October 20, 2009, 11:47:25 pm
so ive been playing

its pretty awesome, i have a level 21 hunter


if ya wanna play, add my xbl gamertag: roarimlions

Damn you.

I have no money to buy this game. I spent it all on freaking chocolate chip cookies.

Damn girl scouts. I bet you're one of them.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 21, 2009, 03:23:21 am
Damn you.

I have no money to buy this game. I spent it all on freaking chocolate chip cookies.

Damn girl scouts. I bet you're one of them.

News Flash: This is just in girl scouts are just like hooker in GTA if you kill them you get your money back + the other suckers that didn't have the bright idea.sarcasm/joke/disclaimer

BTW I might get this game latter on maybe with in 2 months. since I need my R&C a Crack In Time.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 21, 2009, 08:52:55 am
Was it released earlier for the Xbox? Cause when I pre-ordered it, it said it wont be released until the 23rd.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 21, 2009, 09:25:18 am
Was it released earlier for the Xbox? Cause when I pre-ordered it, it said it wont be released until the 23rd.
20th is for NTSC regions, PAL regions get it 23rd.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 21, 2009, 05:31:29 pm
when is it out for the PC
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 21, 2009, 06:06:20 pm
I just beat this game, it is very good.

You all should play it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 21, 2009, 06:24:15 pm
you beat it already

is it short or were you just playing over-religiously


how many hours did it take
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 21, 2009, 07:20:03 pm
did you take time to eat and use the bathroom
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 21, 2009, 07:47:50 pm
Is there much replayability or will we pretty much be putting this down after we finish it?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 21, 2009, 07:48:46 pm
I had it since sunday. it's about 20 hours if you do all quests.


jk it's 90 hours and i haven't taken a shit since last tuesday.

GothicRush there no is replayablility other than getting to level 50.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 21, 2009, 08:36:29 pm
Really no replayability? Is it pretty linear? How much ended up being randomly generated and how much was set areas?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Beasley on October 21, 2009, 08:42:21 pm
i would assume the four classes would add some reply value
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 21, 2009, 08:54:41 pm
It somewhat adds replay value, but the thing for replay is the fact that by the time you finish the games storyline you're not actually at the Level Cap. So there's a New Game+ mode where you go through again, at your current level (you don't retain your items or anything) but everything has been levelled up to your level or higher. So weapons you get will now be far stronger (even the quest items that were weak in first playthrough), enemies are stronger and more numerous and the Badasses are now way fucking stronger, etc.

So I guess there is some replay value in that, and depending what they do for DLC (excluding Zombie Island thingy) it could end up being quite replayable.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 21, 2009, 09:26:14 pm
You do keep your weapons in new game+, the enemies and loot is just better.

Treasure chests in the game are static so they're always in the same spot. What they generate is random though. You'll be at about level 35 after the first playthrough. And you can duel each other in the arena but it's not like deathmatch in a real fps game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 21, 2009, 11:16:55 pm
wait they pulled a Fallout 3 on us and the cap is set at 50... that sucks... Lv50 is like the new Lv99 now a days...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on October 22, 2009, 01:55:06 am
fallout 3's cap was 20. or 30 with broken steel installed.

unless by "fallout 3" you mean "a level cap lower than 99" in which case games have been doing that forever.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 22, 2009, 04:06:50 am
My bad.... my comparison turned in to a epic fail.

I'm one of those guys that hate Lv caps that are below 99.

One thing I like about RPG"s is wasting a massive amount of time trying to max out everything and get every thing that is hidden. Also the feel after you max them out like you can cut thru anything. The reason I stopped playing Fallout 3 was because of the fucking cap. I hit Lv 20 and still Death Claws can R.Y.A.N.O (Rip You A New One)

I was mad for the fact that I wasn't even near the end of the game when I hit the cap and now every enemy I come to, is a waste of time and ammo... If I was getting XP for my next Lv I wouldn't mind but for the fact that they put a cap of 20 for a big massive environment that will take you countless hours to explore over meslie Lv cap of 20 was ridiculous and it killed the experience for me.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 22, 2009, 04:26:00 am
My bad.... my comparison turned in to a epic fail.

I'm one of those guys that hate Lv caps that are below 99.

One thing I like about RPG"s is wasting a massive amount of time trying to max out everything and get every thing that is hidden. Also the feel after you max them out like you can cut thru anything. The reason I stopped playing Fallout 3 was because of the fucking cap. I hit Lv 20 and still Death Claws can R.Y.A.N.O (Rip You A New One)

I was mad for the fact that I wasn't even near the end of the game when I hit the cap and now every enemy I come to, is a waste of time and ammo... If I was getting XP for my next Lv I wouldn't mind but for the fact that they put a cap of 20 for a big massive environment that will take you countless hours to explore over meslie Lv cap of 20 was ridiculous and it killed the experience for me.

Agreed about Fallout, once I hit lv 20 I wasnt sure what else there was to do.

Been reading up on Borderlands inside other forums and have come across a few things that concern me, especially the duplicating glitch. The game hasnt been out for very long and already a few glitches have been found as well as some modding going on. Cant understand how the duplicating glitch was missed.. drop all your gear, disconnect from the game, re-enter and pick up the duplicates in co-op.. Im just worried I'll try to play online only to find everyone else geared with rare duplicates. Has anyone who's tried this online come across this?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 22, 2009, 04:44:02 am
I forgot to add that fallout 3 was the first RPG that I found that wasn"t an mmoRPG that had a cap.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 22, 2009, 06:05:29 am
when is it out for the PC
26th for NTSC. Not sure for PAL.  Also, pre-loads on Steam have started, but the servers are at full load, so good luck getting it to download.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 22, 2009, 06:12:11 am
Pretty sure that NTSC and PAL region codes do not apply to the PC version but thanks for the information on the release date. 
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 22, 2009, 06:25:48 am
Pretty sure that NTSC and PAL region codes do not apply to the PC version but thanks for the information on the release date. 
They don't, but they have seperate release dates for whatever reason. I'm just going on wikipedia though.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 22, 2009, 07:19:04 am
26th for NTSC. Not sure for PAL.  Also, pre-loads on Steam have started, but the servers are at full load, so good luck getting it to download.

As a quick tip for anyone preloading on Steam. Sit there for a couple of minutes constantly clicking preload and you will get in, a lot of people have gotten in this way. I did.

Been reading up on Borderlands inside other forums and have come across a few things that concern me, especially the duplicating glitch. The game hasnt been out for very long and already a few glitches have been found as well as some modding going on. Cant understand how the duplicating glitch was missed.. drop all your gear, disconnect from the game, re-enter and pick up the duplicates in co-op.. Im just worried I'll try to play online only to find everyone else geared with rare duplicates. Has anyone who's tried this online come across this?

You realise you don't have to play with people you don't know, right? A lot of people who have played it have been saying it's a bad idea to play with complete randoms because they won't care about sharing loot or anything like that. Also as far as I know if Gearbox catches anyone cheating they're gonna deal to them. Not sure how they're gonna deal to them.

I have a feeling for console players they'll get banned or something. Not sure.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 22, 2009, 09:54:47 am
As a quick tip for anyone preloading on Steam. Sit there for a couple of minutes constantly clicking preload and you will get in, a lot of people have gotten in this way. I did.

You realise you don't have to play with people you don't know, right? A lot of people who have played it have been saying it's a bad idea to play with complete randoms because they won't care about sharing loot or anything like that. Also as far as I know if Gearbox catches anyone cheating they're gonna deal to them. Not sure how they're gonna deal to them.

I have a feeling for console players they'll get banned or something. Not sure.

I'm looking forward to playing co-op but no one I know owns or plans to purchase Borderlands (they all play COD) which means I'm screwed. I suppose duplicated gear wont effect me too much when playing the story mode in co-op but its the pvp which will really suffer I think with everyone wielding the same duplicated rare guns/shields.

PvP may not seem all that important at the beginning but when a person reaches the lv cap the only thing left for them to do is pvp, at least this was my experience with Diablo II which was owned by everyone duplicating their shit. I'll be interested to see if Gearbox actually bothers to fix the problem because somehow I find it hard to believe they didn't know about the duplication glitch before release, its such an obvious glitch that was found by a lot of players on the first day they got the game and I know a few of them even intended to check for this glitch before the game was even released.

In any case I suppose all I can do is try to avoid anyone I notice doing this as I plan not to ruin my gaming experience with stupid glitches.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 22, 2009, 10:12:06 am
This really doesn't look like much of a PvP game at all.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 22, 2009, 10:40:27 am
True but I do know they have some kind of Arena for those who want to pvp anyway.

I was just thinking about how to solve the duplication problem and thought to myself that if they made those orange,purple,blue weps which I believe are the rare ones non-droppable they could solve a lot of problems because not a lot of people would waste their time trying to duplicate white weps which are the most basic of weps and aren't worth anything. They could make it so if you don't want the weapon then you have to either sell it to a vending machine or destroy it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 22, 2009, 10:51:35 am
man why do people whine about a lvl50 cap

oh geez you can't grind as much! too bad.

remember nox?

you didn't level normally at all and the cap was 10.

pussies.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 23, 2009, 12:00:30 am
True but I do know they have some kind of Arena for those who want to pvp anyway.

I was just thinking about how to solve the duplication problem and thought to myself that if they made those orange,purple,blue weps which I believe are the rare ones non-droppable they could solve a lot of problems because not a lot of people would waste their time trying to duplicate white weps which are the most basic of weps and aren't worth anything. They could make it so if you don't want the weapon then you have to either sell it to a vending machine or destroy it.

There are two types of PvP in this game: Dueling, which you have to either initiate or accept.

and Arena, which you don't actually have to do and as far as I know it's only with the people in your party. It's not a true PvP game, at least it isn't just yet. It might be eventually in a later DLC though.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 23, 2009, 01:41:29 am
Duplicating isn't a big deal, anyway. Just because a weapon is more rare doesn't automatically make you a beast in this game. If your weapon proficiency in the gun is low, it doesn't matter how good the gun is. My SMG proficiency is at level 18 or something, so automatically my reload speed increases by 50%, I do 25% more damage every hit, and my accuracy is better. I could use a shitty smg on a guy and still win. Plus every weapon has a set level you need to be at before you can equip it. And you will never never find a weapon that completely tops every other weapon in this game. That's not how it works. I use some of my green and blue weapons over my orange rare ones.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 23, 2009, 02:53:01 am
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/22/rumor-best-buy-beginning-buy-2-get-3rd-game-free-sale-sunday/

Guys I hope this ad is real.

If so I can see Demon Soul, R&C Crack in Time and borderlands in my game roster in the near future.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Farren on October 24, 2009, 03:58:24 am
I'm gonna buy this shit tomorrow

gonna trip and burn shit up hellyeah
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 24, 2009, 04:11:03 am
Well this game more or less met my expectations. I currently have a lv 28 Soldier(apparently i'm classified as a "support gunner" which probably is cuz of my skill tree) and its awesome so far. Also in response to what DDay said above about maxing out, think about it. Would you want like 500 identical rolands running around online? I don't, the skill tree is meant  so you can can have a unique set up based on your prefrence and if you don't like your tree to respec which will take your points out of everything and reset them.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 24, 2009, 04:28:28 am
I cant seem to play co-op with this, dunno if its just my internet connection or not.. Im playing on the ps3 and part of europe (uk), anyone else having the same problem?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 24, 2009, 04:30:06 am
They don't, but they have seperate release dates for whatever reason. I'm just going on wikipedia though.
oh you were referring to an american region and a european region release date okay say that then because NTSC and PAL don't mean anything in association with software
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Brad on October 24, 2009, 07:25:57 am
I honestly had no clue this game even existed really but since I know about it now, it sounds like something I'd really like. I might consider this a purchase rather than a rent, I really love the rpg/fps ish genre these days.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 24, 2009, 03:55:55 pm
God am I at a road block in the game, I am now level 30 and I am currently doing a quest in Old Haven. Its really difficult with all the heavily armored enemies roaming around the place and annoyingly placed enemies mounted on chain guns. Anybody else get past or is up to this point?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 24, 2009, 04:39:39 pm
Use corrosive weapons. They're weak against it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 24, 2009, 07:31:34 pm
Ah thanks, made use of a corrosive shotgun and sniper I happened to have in my inventory and ripped em' to shreds though I did still die often cuz of the rather numerous amounts of badasses :/
Title: Borderlands
Post by: maladroithim on October 25, 2009, 05:22:22 pm
I really like this game!  I like that it sits in a kind of unique space . . . a lot of action RPGs are light on the action and don't play that well, but are good RPGs, whereas this is light on the RPG and focused on tight action.

I'm not big on the "humor".  There are lots of jokes, but none of them are very funny.  And the running midget gag is actually pretty offensive!

But overall the game is really good.  I am really surprised by the amount of physical area in the game and how well designed it is.  A lot of games with big environments like this have kind of canned or boring environments and building interiors (like Bethesda RPGs).  But most of the side areas are pretty well-designed dungeons and everything.

Use corrosive weapons. They're weak against it.

It's too bad the game isn't more clear with this stuff.  Some of the early bosses I shot like a million times because I wasn't aware that there were real elemental weaknesses in the game.  I had just thought thought for the early parts that the elemental stuff just had special effects.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: SupremeWarrior on October 25, 2009, 06:10:31 pm
I'm just wondering since I don't have the game, how do you upgrade weapons and can you make your own weapons?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: yugi on October 26, 2009, 12:03:01 am
Oh man. Everytime I hear something new about this game, it sounds worse and worse.

The console version (PS3 especially) is apparently buggy as fuck. There is a whole bunch of game breaking bugs and some smaller bugs, a lot of them very easy to run into.
The game is also stupidly easy, and not very long.  (I did say ages ago, the game was about 20 hours long, but nobody believed me)

But the PC version is probably the worst part.
It is according to reviews (and people who have the pirated version) a crappy console port. It has shitty controls that look like they were added at the last minute, and at parts even has icons from the Xbox 360 version.

But it gets even better. The crappy PC port and the delay were apparently done on purpose, to make people more likely to buy a console version.
There was a whole shit storm on the developers and publishers forums a few days ago, about them wanting the PC version earlier, because it was already being sold in tons of stores, but DRM made it impossible to play until the 26th.
Eventually, the publisher decided to not release the game early, and gave two shitty reasons.
First reason was they couldn't "ship it out" fast enough. Even though there were confirmed reports from all over the world stating that the PC shipped at exactly the same date as the console version and tons of people had the PC version already. (In short, the publisher was blatantly lying about this).
The second reason was piracy.

Which brings me onto the next issue.
The PC version has been cracked (and the PC version is not even released yet, which makes the excuse of piracy a load of crap as well). You can download it now and it has absolutely no protection at all. You can play it offline or online just like someone who has purchased the game.

In short. Both the developer, and publisher of this game are lying bastards.  The game is over hyped to fuck. It'll still be a decent game, but is definitely not going to live up to it's hype.

Oh yeah. If you are thinking of getting the PC version. Pirate it. Otherwise have the publisher of the game laugh at you as they fuck you in the ass because you never got the console version like they wanted you to.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 12:58:25 am
Oh man. Everytime I hear something new about this game, it sounds worse and worse.

The console version (PS3 especially) is apparently buggy as fuck. There is a whole bunch of game breaking bugs and some smaller bugs, a lot of them very easy to run into.
The game is also stupidly easy, and not very long.  (I did say ages ago, the game was about 20 hours long, but nobody believed me)

But the PC version is probably the worst part.
It is according to reviews (and people who have the pirated version) a crappy console port. It has shitty controls that look like they were added at the last minute, and at parts even has icons from the Xbox 360 version.

But it gets even better. The crappy PC port and the delay were apparently done on purpose, to make people more likely to buy a console version.
There was a whole shit storm on the developers and publishers forums a few days ago, about them wanting the PC version earlier, because it was already being sold in tons of stores, but DRM made it impossible to play until the 26th.
Eventually, the publisher decided to not release the game early, and gave two shitty reasons.
First reason was they couldn't "ship it out" fast enough. Even though there were confirmed reports from all over the world stating that the PC shipped at exactly the same date as the console version and tons of people had the PC version already. (In short, the publisher was blatantly lying about this).
The second reason was piracy.

Which brings me onto the next issue.
The PC version has been cracked (and the PC version is not even released yet, which makes the excuse of piracy a load of crap as well). You can download it now and it has absolutely no protection at all. You can play it offline or online just like someone who has purchased the game.

In short. Both the developer, and publisher of this game are lying bastards.  The game is over hyped to fuck. It'll still be a decent game, but is definitely not going to live up to it's hype.

Oh yeah. If you are thinking of getting the PC version. Pirate it. Otherwise have the publisher of the game laugh at you as they fuck you in the ass because you never got the console version like they wanted you to.

so what are these game breaking bugs and smaller bugs that are easy to run into that make the game suck
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 12:59:16 am
oh and because people pirated it sucks cool yugi thanks for that post

have you played the game or have you just read about people complaining about it
Title: Borderlands
Post by: yugi on October 26, 2009, 01:13:28 am
so what are these game breaking bugs and smaller bugs that are easy to run into that make the game suck


http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90

Look through there. Here is a short list.

Sound cutting out
Achievements not working
Losing all skills randomly
Items dissapearing
Co-op not working/not finding anyone to play with
Enemy AIs not activating
Save files/characters randomly becoming corrupt
Certain quests not working/activating (including storyline quests)

If you look you'll probably find a hell of a lot more issues. Those are just some of the more common issues.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 01:52:59 am
man, shoulda bought a 360
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 26, 2009, 02:27:13 am
http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/forumdisplay.php?f=90

Look through there. Here is a short list.

Sound cutting out
Achievements not working
Losing all skills randomly
Items dissapearing
Co-op not working/not finding anyone to play with
Enemy AIs not activating
Save files/characters randomly becoming corrupt
Certain quests not working/activating (including storyline quests)

If you look you'll probably find a hell of a lot more issues. Those are just some of the more common issues.

This whole thing is ridiculous; I agree. The more I read about this game, the more I regret even finding out about the thing. These clowns obviously have no idea what they're doing.

Quote
oh and because people pirated it sucks cool yugi thanks for that post

You're an idiot.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 26, 2009, 02:33:00 am
I don't know what to think. I guess I'll have a better opinion tomorrow, but I'd hold off for a few weeks before everyone starts freaking out.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 03:15:01 am
This whole thing is ridiculous; I agree. The more I read about this game, the more I regret even finding out about the thing. These clowns obviously have no idea what they're doing.

You're an idiot.

oh sorry ive actually played it lol
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 03:17:18 am
The more I read about this game, the more I regret even finding out about the thing.

lol i totally regret having found out about things that have absolutely no effect on my life

You're an idiot.

how ironic
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 03:17:35 am
oh you bought it for pc? noob get it for 360
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on October 26, 2009, 04:21:00 am
doesn't it come out today

on pc

steam please get with the times (EST)

i want to know for myself what is going on here...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 26, 2009, 06:06:44 am
doesn't it come out today

on pc

steam please get with the times (EST)

i want to know for myself what is going on here...

If you look at the store page it will tell you when it unlocks. Now add 4 hours to that since these hyped up releases NEVER go smoothly.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 26, 2009, 06:38:33 am
But the PC version is probably the worst part.
It is according to reviews (and people who have the pirated version) a crappy console port. It has shitty controls that look like they were added at the last minute.

I like it how you assume that it's a crappy console port, even though you don't know shit.

It was built for PC first, not last. And obviously the reason they released console early is because they will make MORE MONEY, rather than allowing the pirates to get it straight off.

The default controls, sure, they may suck. But with PC games, you can change the fucking KEY BINDINGS.

Stop fucking complaining when you haven't actually played the PC version, and I seriously don't know why the fuck you trust shit that people WRITE ON THE INTERNET.

Fuck sakes, man.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on October 26, 2009, 07:01:33 am
I like it how you assume that it's a crappy console port, even though you don't know shit.

It was built for PC first, not last. And obviously the reason they released console early is because they will make MORE MONEY, rather than allowing the pirates to get it straight off.

The default controls, sure, they may suck. But with PC games, you can change the fucking KEY BINDINGS.

Stop fucking complaining when you haven't actually played the PC version, and I seriously don't know why the fuck you trust shit that people WRITE ON THE INTERNET.

Fuck sakes, man.

He was referring to the UI. The UI has bits and traces of the 360 UI, and it comes off as a shitty last minute port job (proven by reviews from reputable sites)... Let's not forget the load of other crappy design choices that have been noted over the reviews from these same sources. Questions of a day 1 patch to fix these things have been met with no reply. (Per what they were supposed to be doing during the 6 day "optimization for PC" delay.)

Seriously, don't turn into one those MMOish cretins who go into a frenzy every time someone shares a negative opinion / facts about something.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 26, 2009, 07:16:27 am
I like it how you assume that it's a crappy console port, even though you don't know shit.

It was built for PC first, not last. And obviously the reason they released console early is because they will make MORE MONEY, rather than allowing the pirates to get it straight off.

The default controls, sure, they may suck. But with PC games, you can change the fucking KEY BINDINGS.

Stop fucking complaining when you haven't actually played the PC version, and I seriously don't know why the fuck you trust shit that people WRITE ON THE INTERNET.

Fuck sakes, man.
He may be going crazy, but some of it is true.

Just take a look at the menu for the game, it's not PC friendly. The reviews have said it and some people who have it already have as well. I doubt this game was designed for PC first. Built for a PC, yeah, you can say that. The interface and controls definitely aren't though, you aren't able to do the most basic functions with a mouse on that version. There are certain things you can't fix in this game with simple key binds. The interface is flawed on all versions, it handles like shit. And graphically it may not be a port, but all you have to do is look at the menu to know they didn't do a good job on altering it for PC.

Who knows what they were thinking when designing that thing.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Vellfire on October 26, 2009, 11:54:51 am
Seriously, don't turn into one those MMOish cretins who go into a frenzy every time someone shares a negative opinion / facts about something.

Nah man he has a really valid point that this guy was flipping his lid about the PC version when he's not even played it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 26, 2009, 12:49:21 pm
What time does this shit get release1111
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 26, 2009, 01:04:08 pm
oh you bought it for pc? noob get it for 360
not everyone has a 360, although its already up on torrent sites if you just want to download it
Title: Borderlands
Post by: skarik on October 26, 2009, 03:43:10 pm
This is why I wait for half a year before buying a game. In time for the patches and the cracks that actually let me play the game I bought.


(note that im confused about why people make fuss of drm when to me its no problem since games never run w/o the crack)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Vellfire on October 26, 2009, 03:57:28 pm
people complain about drm because it tends to not only make legitimate users jump through hoops to install the software, but also because it limits the number of times you can install the software, even though you paid for it

so let's say you have an unreliable computer that you have to reformat sometimes and you can only install the game three times, it could very well be that down the road you can't play it anymore

also it has been shown that drm does not even vaguely stop piracy, so it's just a bunch of shit for no reason that only hurts the people who actually buy the software
Title: Borderlands
Post by: yugi on October 26, 2009, 05:41:05 pm
Playing the PC version right now.

First thing I will say is about the DRM that comes with the hard copy of the game (not Steam). It is apparently nasty enough that by default, windows Vista will not allow the game to run (Data Execution Prevention prevents the game from even running).
Make of that what you will. But it is probably not a good sign when even the operating system you are using does not want to execute the DRM.

As for the game.

It is fun, but has a fair few problems.

Firstly, the game is disgustingly easy. I am using Mordecai and going down the gunslinger skill path (which specializes mainly in pistols). Mordecai is probably the most fragile of all the 4 characters, but I am rarely taking any damage from anything, and rarely come close to being killed.
Also, I can use a sniper rifle to basically 1 hit kill anything (including bosses), from a very long distance. I have absolutely no specialization in sniper rifles either.

The UI in the game is horrible. It looks nice and all, but the controls for it are stupid.
You have to use the mouse, arrow keys, enter and escape. It is really annoying that you have to keep constantly changing the controls you're using just to navigate a menu.

As for the game it's self. Controls are fine, but you will probably want to change them before you start (they are spread out over the keyboard too much initially).
The game is fun, but lacks variety. The quests are all kill stuff, or collect items. The enemies all look or act similar with very few actually being different.
Gun in the game also do not have a lot of variety. I suspect the "17 million" guns or whatever they claimed the game had accounts for even the smallest of differences. I was at one point holding 4 of the exact same gun, or nearly the exact same. They has the same name, same stats, but the only differences were minor differences to their appearance. One has a little iron sight on the end of it's barrel, another had a slightly bulkier looking grip and so on.

Also, the game tries too hard to be funny, and fails at it.
Whenever you kill someone with a critical hit, or with your special ability (for Mordecai at least) your character says some crappy one liner.
Some of the weapons are obviously spoofs on internet memes as well. I have found a "weaksauce" gun (literally, it's name was something like "Weaksauce Repeater"), another was a "Rage" gun, and there is probably a lot more in the game like this too.
There is a lot of other, unfunny stuff in the game too :[

The game is also somewhat buggy. I have ran into three or so at the moment.
One was an issue with clipping and me being able to see/move through a part of a building.
Another was with enemies acting like retards. (I was shooting one, and none of them would do anything, other than spout out their one liners)
The other was some sort of issue with me handing in the same quests like three times.

Nothing major at the moment. But I did not particularly do anything difficult to run into them.


All in all. It is a decent and fun game. But I doubt is has a lot of replayability due to it's very easy difficulty and lack of variety with pretty much everything.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 08:29:58 pm
try playing it with friends, it rocks
Title: Borderlands
Post by: dragonx on October 26, 2009, 08:34:33 pm
actually i take that back if your friends are like you it wouldnt be fun
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 26, 2009, 08:56:47 pm
The game is also stupidly easy, and not very long.  (I did say ages ago, the game was about 20 hours long, but nobody believed me)
I disagree with this, the game is actually quite lengthy and took me about 35+ hours on my first playthrough and I estimate that I only did about 60-70% of the side quests in the game. I am also pretty sure sure Gearbox did say it would take 20 hours if you just breezed through the story missions without taking any side quests as well so in that aspect I will agree but if you do the side quests then the game is extended greatly. Since you can't reach the level cap in one playthrough, you have the option at the end called "playthrough 2" which is pretty much a "new game +" that extends the game but I consider it just playing through the game on the hard difficulty as it just rehashes everything but it does make the loot better and also the enemies have some slight differences and making them more challenging which is nice. I can complain though that yes it did have some odd bugs and the worst part was the ending, which was horrible(though the last boss was pretty cool looking in some ways but it unfortunately amounted to nothing but shooting it's weak spot and easily dodgeable attacks, except that stupid laser that penetrates walls :/). I really didn't like too much of the humor either, but I will admit the many pop culture references made me laugh a little.
Edit: I do actually agree with what you said about the PC version, I didn't like the control setup very much and it was a bit buggier than the console version with some crashes(about 4 or 5 so far) but if it's moddable then I will probably like it a bit more since me and my friends love game mods.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: skarik on October 27, 2009, 01:38:36 am
Is there a hard mode, or a file one can edit to change the difficulty? I like it when my games are hard, as in dying at the same spot over and over hard.
I'd really like to know that before I buy it.

Edit:
Quote
[20:13:04] bazza mcmiles: thas what i figuired
[20:14:24] bazza mcmiles: omg
[20:14:49] bazza mcmiles: in borderlands your almost always under attack
[20:15:18] bazza mcmiles: cant walk two feet without  meeting a group of raiders and a pack of skags
[20:15:42] Joshua Boren: Random battles: ADVANCED!
[20:17:10] bazza mcmiles: lol
Title: Borderlands
Post by: yugi on October 27, 2009, 03:38:40 am
There is no difficulty levels.
On the PC version there is a file with "GameDifficulty=+1.0", which I assume would be used to change the difficulty of the game.
However, I have tried various numbers, 1.5, 10.0, 100.0 and even 1000.0. I did not notice any real difference with any of those.

I am keeping it at 2.0 just incase it does actually effect difficulty though.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: FrostyPink on October 27, 2009, 04:00:02 am
I just finished a Borderlands session with my friend... it's now 4am ffs.

It's such a SHIT game, fucking buggy and not well thought out at all... but somehow still damn fun.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: skarik on October 27, 2009, 04:29:46 am
I heard it's super addicting.

Quote
[20:23:27] Joshua Boren: Seriously, still playing?
[20:23:35] bazza mcmiles: ya
[20:23:47] bazza mcmiles: its... adicting
[20:24:18] bazza mcmiles: boss battles are pretty epic aswell
[20:58:04] Joshua Boren: Still playing?
...
[21:01:57] bazza mcmiles: ya

Yugi, maybe you should try negative numbers. See if then people shooting at you die spontaneously.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Neophyte on October 27, 2009, 04:59:23 am


Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 27, 2009, 11:12:08 am
Is there a hard mode, or a file one can edit to change the difficulty? I like it when my games are hard, as in dying at the same spot over and over hard.
I'd really like to know that before I buy it.

Edit:
You can do a Playthrough 2 when you finish your first playthrough which amps up the enemy speed slightly and increases their levels drastically. It took me an hour to get to skag gully on this mode and I leveled up from 36 to 38 within that time so the xp is great too.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 28, 2009, 03:24:53 pm
I just started the second playthrough at level 35, I dont plan on doing any side missions whatsoever. So far the weapons and loot have been upgraded nicely although I'm still pissed about the ending of the game which was just stupid as hell. Just wished I could play this online, im sure it would be a lot more entertaining.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: esp on October 28, 2009, 03:38:29 pm
man the last boss was literally just shoot the weak spot and run away from its crappy attacks. it took ages to kill but wasnt challenging at all. i found bosses like much more difficult! maybe it was because i was too low level. (playing it solo)

also playing on 360 the only bug i've experienced is voices cutting out occasionally, that's all. it's a decent game imo, but a little repetitive. i'm sure it would be more fun with 4 players.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 28, 2009, 03:54:10 pm
Also I've been playing with the Siren so I'm phasewalking past everything and heading straight to the bosses which cuts out a lot of time.. dunno how long ill be able to keep it up with enemy levels increasing the further I go but so far its working like a charm.

I'm not sure if I can be bothered to try out a new character but might eventually try out the Hunter since he was my second choice after the Siren.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 28, 2009, 08:19:35 pm
I am a soldier myself so I don't have the convenience of phasewalk :(​. Good god do I LOATHE Hardened Alpha Skags, they take longer to die than most Badmuthas and their attacks are brutal. Corrosive weapons are pretty effective, but not by much :/
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on October 28, 2009, 08:33:41 pm
I am a soldier myself so I don't have the convenience of phasewalk :(​. Good god do I LOATHE Hardened Alpha Skags, they take longer to die than most Badmuthas and their attacks are brutal. Corrosive weapons are pretty effective, but not by much :/

I just fucking hate Alpha Skags in general. They seem to have far more health or a hardcore defense compared to Badass Skags, which I can kill with one or two clips of my Assault Rifle. Alpha Skags are a pain in the ass really.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Liquid Ocelot on October 29, 2009, 02:53:04 am
Well it also doesn't help that instead of fighting regular elemental skags, they are always badass alpha now :(​. I am thankfully in the Dhal Headlands now so Skags aren't thankfully there except Skagzilla.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on October 29, 2009, 09:11:21 am
http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=10046.new#new
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Mongoloid on October 30, 2009, 09:23:22 am
I sat and played this with a friend and it sucked because even though he was level 20 it forced me to be level 1.

I coincidentally have 61$ on a gamestop card so i will probably buy it anyway but it kinda bums me out that the options for playing with friends are either start over or drag me along for a game of reviving every few minutes
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 30, 2009, 10:53:35 am
I sat and played this with a friend and it sucked because even though he was level 20 it forced me to be level 1.

I dont understand? You expected the game to bump you up to level 20 with your friend?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 30, 2009, 12:59:03 pm
Just played the game (Since I need a brake from Ratchet & Clank) it ok and I could waste alot of time just trying to get the gun skill up and the Lv cap isn't so bad since they have a gun skils witch if you max out a gun skill and your lv it's almost like having LV99. 
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on October 30, 2009, 02:52:08 pm
I sat and played this with a friend and it sucked because even though he was level 20 it forced me to be level 1.

I coincidentally have 61$ on a gamestop card so i will probably buy it anyway but it kinda bums me out that the options for playing with friends are either start over or drag me along for a game of reviving every few minutes
yeah i think the point is so that you build up your own character
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on October 30, 2009, 04:07:05 pm
Played this a bit online and kept losing the levels I made and any loot I found everytime the host left the game or when I lost connection, annoying as hell...
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on October 31, 2009, 04:43:59 pm
BTW yesterday they patched this game for PS3 and 360 the Siren's Action attack has been fixed (supposedly it wasn't working right.). I'm actually playing as a siren and I think the class isn't that week at all.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Sarevok on October 31, 2009, 08:25:45 pm
Played this a bit online and kept losing the levels I made and any loot I found everytime the host left the game or when I lost connection, annoying as hell...

This keeps happening to me as well. I basically can't play any online game at all (not tried with brand new patch yet though).


It's mad fun in local splitscreen co-op but so far (ignoring the non-saving problem) I have found online play extremely dull and nobody chats or seems to work together. Not been able to play with my mates yet but so far I'm really disappointed with all the online stuff in the game. :(


Also beat the game with about 97% of quests (enough to get all achievements, even though I didn't do all the missions in certain achievement areas) in about 20 hours.


Good game save the horrendous ending, but I really can't be arsed to do a second playthrough with the slow start the game has.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on November 01, 2009, 01:32:18 am
This keeps happening to me as well. I basically can't play any online game at all (not tried with brand new patch yet though).


It's mad fun in local splitscreen co-op but so far (ignoring the non-saving problem) I have found online play extremely dull and nobody chats or seems to work together. Not been able to play with my mates yet but so far I'm really disappointed with all the online stuff in the game. :(


Also beat the game with about 97% of quests (enough to get all achievements, even though I didn't do all the missions in certain achievement areas) in about 20 hours.


Good game save the horrendous ending, but I really can't be arsed to do a second playthrough with the slow start the game has.

The multiplayer implementation is this games biggest weakness. There is absolutely no compelling reason for a team to work together; as a matter of fact - the game REWARDS you for being a douche and running off alone (By grabbing chests and getting to the loot first). Unless you know the people you're playing with, multiplayer is going to be a waste of time 9/10, that is if you can even GET INTO A GAME because you need to open ports just to host a game; and most people are wary of opening up their computer to attack just to host a damn multiplayer game. It's like we've time traveled back to the fucking 90s; because it sure as hell seems like the game ignores all the lessons learned by other developers / games of this type.

If you're playing with friends, you're probably going to work together; but that doesn't negate the fact that pretty much nothing encourages a team to do this - not the retarded AI with shit pathing, not the "badass" enemies that can be mowed down by average equipment loadouts, and and certainly not the loot driven endgame that can be easily circumvented by save file editors.

I really, really wish I hadn't spent money on this.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on November 01, 2009, 07:11:59 am
Played this a bit online and kept losing the levels I made and any loot I found everytime the host left the game or when I lost connection, annoying as hell...
It's a know glitch, that if you don't leave before the host does, your character won't save.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Sarevok on November 01, 2009, 07:59:04 am
I have left before the host everytime and on all 5 occassions it hasn't saved anything for me.

I agree with NB on the most part, although I don't regret buying the game (regret paying 40 quid though!). But yeah, there just doesn't seem to be any point or reward at all for playing this game online, even though it should be a game pretty much solely about multiplayer.

I think the situation is not helped by each class having only 1 active ability, which means that there's actually very little that players can do to help each other beyond reviving on death..but second wind is 90% of the time all you need to counter that.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on November 01, 2009, 06:16:41 pm
And they get harder when you have more players and I think you get better loot for playing with others but then the other players steel the loot for them self's I think they need to do distribution system of items different like randomly give loot or shuffle who gets it. (if they have space). or make a designated spot where it will hold the items that where randomly disburse to each character and you may pick them up from there. (sort like a one way storage container)

What would be nice if they had something to put my items in to like I have a good weapons that I don’t want to accidentally sell them and I would feel better if it was away in a container some where and it would make it easier on me so I can just sell the whole dam thing.

BTW I sort of like this game... maybe they will add expansion to this game since it seems they left room to do so.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: NightBlade on November 02, 2009, 02:01:50 am

BTW I sort of like this game... maybe they will add expansion to this game since it seems they left room to do so.

DLC was announced before the game was even released. The DLC will feature - wait for it - ZOMBIES.

No, I'm not joking.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Eltee on November 02, 2009, 03:14:51 am
why would you be joking

dlc is common these days and

so are zombie levels

whooptee doo
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Warped655 on November 02, 2009, 03:26:05 am
I like zombies.  Though I actually haven't played this game yet. So IDK it in the context of the game if zombies would fit or not.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on November 02, 2009, 08:02:59 am
Zombies sounds like a stupid idea.... just stick with alien creatures ffs.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on November 09, 2009, 11:15:13 pm
For those that care.


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Starting November 24, Dr. Ned is graciously opening his Zombie Island to any gun-toting maniac with ten bucks. 2K has announced the price ($9.99/800) and release date for the first Borderlands DLC pack on PS3 and Xbox 360. The publisher tells Joystiq that the DLC's availability for the PC version is yet to be determined -- in other words, it's probably not coming out on November 24. Though, that's unconfirmed and subject to pending details.

2K promises "ferocious brain-eating zombies, carnivorous Were-Skags and more" on the spooky island, but, perhaps more relevant to weapon-obsessed Borderlands players, there's more "sweet, sweet loot" to find.

Source  http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/09/borderlands-dlc-available-november-24-on-ps3-xbox-360/
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on November 09, 2009, 11:22:56 pm
HOW ABOUT YOU WORK ON BUG / FEATURE FIXES DURRRRR
Title: Borderlands
Post by: the bloddy ghost on November 09, 2009, 11:29:58 pm
this game is pretty disappointing. I don't really like the vehicle combat at all.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on November 09, 2009, 11:52:46 pm
Well if there is a number 2 I think the first thing they need to think about is the vehicle because I think everything in this game needs to be more customizable and there should be a billion part for you to pimp your ride with and each class should have a female and male counter part with editable builds face structure.

I think the game had a good idea but they didn't execute it properly.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Sarevok on November 10, 2009, 06:02:46 pm
Pretty much everything you listed there is utterly pointless stuff that wouldn't really enhance the game in any way at all.

I am unsure if they will end up doing a second one. They wanted Borderlands to be a franchise, but the enormous negative rep Gearbox/2k are getting from the first one pretty much ensures that they will sell a drastically smaller amount of copies. If they can put 2 and 2 together they'll probably realise that it's not going to be profitable to make a sequel (unless they do a Valve and just release a patched version as a full price sequel....)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on November 10, 2009, 08:08:45 pm
Pretty much everything you listed there is utterly pointless stuff that wouldn't really enhance the game in any way at all.

I am unsure if they will end up doing a second one. They wanted Borderlands to be a franchise, but the enormous negative rep Gearbox/2k are getting from the first one pretty much ensures that they will sell a drastically smaller amount of copies. If they can put 2 and 2 together they'll probably realise that it's not going to be profitable to make a sequel (unless they do a Valve and just release a patched version as a full price sequel....)


Well I always hated using the car to kill thing and it was boring I'm just saying it would help the game out alot just by doing little bit of that but I know they needs to do a lot more then that to have significant impacted on the fun factor.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Brown on November 11, 2009, 05:52:37 am
let me get this straight guys. I've been playing this game for a while now lvl 29 hunter and i've only seen one type of vehicle. Is it going to be like this the entire game?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on November 11, 2009, 07:37:50 am
Yup
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on November 12, 2009, 09:43:48 am
HOW ABOUT YOU WORK ON BUG / FEATURE FIXES DURRRRR

Bro.

They began working on DLC during the certification process, because during that time they cannot change or edit anything in the game.

They also have a team working on DLC and people specifically working on bug fixes, it's not like they're out there to ignore bugs.

I am unsure if they will end up doing a second one.

but the enormous negative rep Gearbox/2k are getting from the first one pretty much ensures that they will sell a drastically smaller amount of copies.

Yeah but despite this they seem to be getting a shit ton of copies being sold anyway, so I'm not sure if it's really going to stop them from making a sequel. Anyway, I for one would welcome a sequel with open arms if it improved upon what they've already given us. I'd hope that we get at least a few DLCs before a sequel anyway.

Also a cool way to play it (if you have the PC version, that is) is to dive into the ini files and try playing it in third person. It's really crazy, and kinda hard to get used to cause often your shots will hit the ground behind you instead of where you aim.

Another cool way to play through (I read this on the Gearbox Borderlands Forum) is that whenever you find a gun, no matter what it is, you pick it up and swap it for you are currently using. No comparing, no going into your inventory and changing it back. You gotta trust yourself to do this. This includes shields and grenade/class mods as well.

The reason for doing this is the intense sense of accomplishment you feel when you kill someone like with a bad repeater you found not two minutes beforehand.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Mongoloid on November 12, 2009, 11:09:31 am
Man I am really trying to like this game but it really bums me out headshotting a guy 4 or 5 times with an explosive sniper rifle and he chases me down and kills me.

The reason I don't play a lot of rpgs is because I absolutely cannot stand grinding, and it seems like this game would be great if the level differences weren't obstructing my play. I'm actually pretty sure I have other quests I can do while I'm trying to level up, but the HUD is so hard to read that I pretty much just do whatever mission is active.
I know a lot of people like this game but jeez I am having a hard time even getting myself to turn it on!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on November 12, 2009, 05:10:18 pm
Bro.

They began working on DLC during the certification process, because during that time they cannot change or edit anything in the game.

They also have a team working on DLC and people specifically working on bug fixes, it's not like they're out there to ignore bugs.

Bro.

Thank you for being condescending.

You can still work on separate builds during the certification process and then it is a matter of importing those codes in the form of patches and updates. You do not immediately need to switch to DLC, but regardless is this even what happened? Source? A lot of games launch with Patch #1 on release day. I'm not saying they are ignoring the bugs and funked features, but still having people on DLC while the fundamental game isn't very polished is not good practice imo (unless from a business perspective, which yes, they are, I know, but still).

Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on November 12, 2009, 07:13:01 pm
As far as I know they were unaware of several of the major bugs until launch when the ones who ran into them started to complain. Also I wasn't trying to be condescending, so sorry if I came across like that.

I'll try and dig through one of the ridiculously massive topics on the Gearbox forum to find the source of

You do not immediately need to switch to DLC, but regardless is this even what happened? Source?

I'm pretty sure one of the community manager's posts states that part of the team moved onto development of a DLC and anyone else were bugfixing, or something like that.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on November 12, 2009, 11:44:37 pm
Yeah, sorry, I was having a bad morning (4 hours sleep, woke up to sanding, permanent retainer broke, etc) and you were just the first person I encountered.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on November 13, 2009, 08:02:04 am
Does anyone know If one of the bugs they plan on fixing is the port problem a number of people are having with multiplayer? I have to swap over my modem when ever I want to play this online, the modem which allows the online function to work also has to be rebooted every 3-4 hours which is frustrating as hell.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Brown on November 13, 2009, 08:56:28 am
Man I am really trying to like this game but it really bums me out headshotting a guy 4 or 5 times with an explosive sniper rifle and he chases me down and kills me.

this is probably because of one, or all of the below>>>
* you have a shitty exploding sniper rifle
* you are facing people higher level'd than you
* you are facing a brute or burning psycho
* you think you are hitting their head but you are not (best way to check is if it pops up saying CRITICAL!)


other than that I have no idea as to why they are chasing you down and killing you. if they come near you then shotgun their asses.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on November 13, 2009, 08:58:40 am
Yeah, sorry, I was having a bad morning (4 hours sleep, woke up to sanding, permanent retainer broke, etc) and you were just the first person I encountered.

Sweet as bro.

Does anyone know If one of the bugs they plan on fixing is the port problem a number of people are having with multiplayer? I have to swap over my modem when ever I want to play this online, the modem which allows the online function to work also has to be rebooted every 3-4 hours which is frustrating as hell.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. As far as I know that's most likely one of the most important bugs they are working on but I'm still not sure. I just use hamachi, which works perfectly for me.

Also, the new DLC actually sounds worth the ten dollars. You're getting 6-10 hours gameplay in the new area with around 50 new quests. Considering the original game can be knocked out in under twenty hours (including all quests) then that's actually pretty sweet for 10 bucks.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Sarevok on November 15, 2009, 07:46:14 am
As far as I know they were unaware of several of the major bugs until launch when the ones who ran into them started to complain.



I'd be kinda concerned if they weren't aware of an easily reproducable progression blocker in the tutorial of the game....
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Jester on November 15, 2009, 01:13:20 pm


I'd be kinda concerned if they weren't aware of an easily reproducable progression blocker in the tutorial of the game....
What was this? I think I ran into this and had no idea what was going on.

I wasn't really paying attention to the game as I was talking to someone while playing, but I got to the first town and nothing happened. Nobody came out of the houses, and my obj. didn't update. I assumed I hadn't been listening and the robot told me to do something, but when I restarted the town opened automatically. Is that the bug?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on November 25, 2009, 07:23:09 am
The DLC should be coming out tommorow I believe for this, anyone getting it? I cant seem to get more info as to whats going to be included in this, anyone know anything more than the 3 screenshots which were released? All I know is this DLC contains Zombies and costs £10.00.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on November 25, 2009, 09:13:50 am
The DLC should be coming out tommorow I believe for this, anyone getting it? I cant seem to get more info as to whats going to be included in this, anyone know anything more than the 3 screenshots which were released? All I know is this DLC contains Zombies and costs £10.00.

for ps3 it's out. The enemies scale to your LV also you will be able to get better loot drops. Nothing much other then that. BTW I just beat the DLC litte more funnier then the original content still tries too hard.

Edit: also There is a downed claptrap to expand your maximum loot you can hold near the end of the game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: XxNemesis29xX on November 25, 2009, 09:47:37 am
I bought this game a few weeks ago, and initially I loved it, but the game began to have some serious problems for me and I ended up trading it in. My gripes:

-Game is way too easy. With a good recharger for your shield, and having a shield that regenerates your HP, every enemy becomes easy. I understand the second playthrough is tougher, but WHY don't game developers just let you play the game the FIRST time with a tough difficulty. Obviously you'll enjoy it more, and they should make their games so that the first play through is the best as it can be. I never got this mentality with games, and yet the problem is so prevalent.

-Little to NO interaction. The game has like, 5 NPCs you can talk to, and even then it's very limited talking. I understand it's a desolate wasteland, but so was Fallout 3 and it had amazing interaction and NPC depth.

-Sidequests are horrible. Almost every sidequest I went on was a fetch-quest: "collect the 5 skulls in that settlement" "kill the 10 bandits in that settlement" "shoot off the 5 Rakk poo off the wind blades" man, can that get boring FAST. Especially when everything's so easy, it's even more boring.

-Also, the insane LOOT the game boasts to have is pretty much a lie. It's essentially the same 10 items, with different stats. 80% of the stuff I found, I couldn't pick-up cause 1) it was ammo that I was stocked up on 2) didn't have room 3) was crap. It was annoying to keep opening up every little thing with rewards being very occasional.

Blah, the whole game was a bad intro for me to a western open-world RPG. I picked up Fallout 3 Game of the Year addition, and man, it is infinitely better. So challenging, it seriously is a SURVIVAL RPG, amazing. Also, it has like 200 hours worth of gameplay, when Borderlands had like 30. 30 hours is not enough for a open-world western RPG.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: theHunter on December 03, 2009, 05:24:09 am
I much prefer Borderlands over Fallout 3.  The shooting sucks ass in Fallout.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: esp on December 03, 2009, 02:08:46 pm
you're not supposed to shoot like an FPS in fallout you just abuse VATS to win easily

also i played through this once and it wasn't really worth a second playthrough. it could have been so much better!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Brown on December 03, 2009, 07:44:50 pm
This game surprised me when it let me and a friend go through the game on the same 360. The menu for us was a bit fucked up (it was still the same size as a single player screen but on two split screens so you had to scroll the menu with the right stick) but I had more fun playing with another person. My xbox has been really messed up lately.. it randomly burns a circle around the disc if I play the game for too long which deems the dvd useless. I had to burn a 2nd copy of fallout 3. this also happened to blue dragon disc 3 and borderlands now. :(
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on December 04, 2009, 12:28:54 am
fallout 3 is lot more fun when you don't use VATS though.  Using VATS just makes it seem really cheap and retarded (although I have to admit, its nice in a really intense firefight to let the computer do it for you sometimes)
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rajew on December 04, 2009, 03:28:25 am
Am I the only dude who really thoroughly enjoyed VATS? It helped that I kind of sucked at the game without it but it never seemed "OP" or anything. I could get like 4 bursts with my chinese assault rifle and either cripple one super mutant or severely wound/kill 1-3 raiders/etc (pretty much the same amount of damage I could do just shooting). And giant radscorpions and mirelurks were still tough as balls regardless of VATS.
And getting caught without AP was really tense and *ohshit runaway* which made it funner(for me) than just always being in *pewpew you dead* FPS mode.
Fallout 3 was really cool.
PS: No game ever overwhelmed me except maybe playing someone elses game where theyre near the end and have all the abilities and you don't know what any of them do. Also, I feel like if I ever play a Hearts of Iron or Europa Universalis game I'll be overwhelmed.
oh and DF(Dwarf Fortress) did sometimes at first
this is not the games that overwhelmed me topic im dump sorr
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on December 04, 2009, 04:44:07 am
you probably liked it because you suck with guns
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Soup Demon on December 05, 2009, 08:11:06 pm
I pop this in the ps3 every now and again and its mad fun for me, but that is probably because i love looting like an asshole and just shooting things endlessly. The gameplay is like halo except damage is based on a diablo stat structure type thing. The weapons are pretty fun too. Currently using a sniper rifle that sets shit on fire from a far enough distance, teleportation grenades and some kind of really mean shotgun. Good brainless fun so far.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: goat on December 08, 2009, 07:19:34 pm
What a flat and boring game. Everything is so repetitive and stale. I can't believe I wasted money on this either. :fogetpout:
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rowain on December 09, 2009, 01:05:57 pm
this is stupid fun yeah, I've got a hunter I dick around with solo and a soldier I'm playing through online with a friend, anyone else interested in joining us sometime on the 360??
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on December 09, 2009, 05:55:17 pm
I couldnt bare to play through this again, done it with a Syran and Berserker with two playthroughs each. Overplaying is a big no no, I should have known better.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DDay on December 09, 2009, 07:52:01 pm
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As noted by PS3Trophies.org, it appears that more Borderlands DLC is imminent. The five recently added Trophies point to three coliseums, called The Angelic Ruins, The Gully and Hell-Burbia, all of which appear to have "lesser" and "larger" challenges.

Eurogamer mentions that Borderlands Creative Director Mikey Neuman was all set to reveal something on Twitter, but it appears the marketing powers changed the announcement to a "later occasion." Publisher Take-Two seems happy with the success of Borderlands and critical reception to the game's first DLC pack, The Zombie Island of Doctor Ned. Reaching out to 2K Games about the DLC, we were informed, "No official announcements have been made regarding future Borderlands DLC at this time."

[Via Eurogamer]

http://playstation.joystiq.com/tag/@ps3

again for anyone that cares.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Soup Demon on December 10, 2009, 02:15:05 am
Fuck you rowain and your fucking 360 versions fucking fuck fuck.


But yeah this game is getting really repetitive, still fun when i want to shoot things without thinking considering my dislike for halo
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on December 10, 2009, 04:20:00 pm
thats kind of how most shooters are in the end
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rowain on December 10, 2009, 07:04:40 pm
Yes but most shooters provide arguably better narrative and more varied locales/enemies. Borderlands barely has a cutscene or story after the opening segments, and you fight raiders/skags for hours and hours.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: ATARI on December 10, 2009, 07:19:36 pm
okay you are probably right i don't know because i haven't played it yet and i'm only torrenting it now, but like was it really advertised as being like some crazy plot oriented game?  like  I don't recall it being in any form, and didn't have that impression from any of what i saw of the advertising of the game.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rowain on December 10, 2009, 07:23:53 pm
No I wouldn't say it was, but then all I ever saw buzz about was the number of weapons in the game.

A year or so ago I just heard it was an open ended sci fi shooter with lots of co-op emphasis. I don't think they ever sold it as an epic story.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: skarik on December 11, 2009, 12:27:34 am
story sucks, hands down


any articles yet on how to mod the game?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 11, 2009, 08:13:48 am
story sucks, hands down


any articles yet on how to mod the game?
You can get into the level editor through some hex editing trickery. Noones made anything good though.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Brown on December 11, 2009, 09:26:11 am
there is something
http://blmodding.wikidot.com/how-to-mod-it
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on December 11, 2009, 09:39:10 pm
story sucks, hands down

Story doesn't suck, per se, it just wasn't pulled off very well.

I just wish they had had cutscenes, cause as I can see from the Brothers in Arms series Gearbox do know how to make relatively good stories and cutscenes.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 12, 2009, 01:26:19 am
Story doesn't suck, per se, it just wasn't pulled off very well.
The ending was pretty awful, really.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on December 12, 2009, 10:42:30 am
The ending was pretty awful, really.

Yeah but I've had a think about it, and a lot of the ending (the idea behind the ending) seems really subtle.

For instance:

I just think the story and ending were pulled off badly.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 12, 2009, 10:47:06 am
Considering it's apparently going to become one of 2Ks major series' we'll see what happens in a sequel a couple of years down the track.
With the awful reception Borderlands recieved, the likelihood of a sequel is pretty slim.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on December 12, 2009, 10:58:51 am
What makes you think it was an awful reception when a lot of high profile games were pushed till next year, and 2K themselves have already announced that because of Borderlands sales they are making it one of their
major series' and that we can expect a sequel?

Source:  http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1052016p1.html

"During Take-Two's financial call this afternoon, CEO Ben Feder expressed enthusiasm for the long-term outlook of its hit new shooter franchise, and hinted at possible sequels going forward."

"We have long term publishing rights to sequels of Borderlands and expect this to become a key franchise for Take-Two," he stated.

"Gearbox announced recently the game became the fastest selling new title of 2009. "
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Massy2k6 on December 12, 2009, 03:36:42 pm
The ending was pretty awful, really.

The final boss was beyond crap in every way, they put no effort into it at all.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on December 12, 2009, 10:42:08 pm
The final boss was beyond crap in every way, they put no effort into it at all.

Now THAT I can agree with.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Rowain on December 12, 2009, 10:59:19 pm
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With the awful reception Borderlands recieved, the likelihood of a sequel is pretty slim.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/borderlands

People are frustrated with some aspects of it, but the 360 version at least has a solid online playerbase, and those playing it seem to enjoy it. it's got some definite problems that a sequel might address but it's by no means whatsoever a failure.

and like someone else said, it's selling extremely well.

If Gearbox listens to the gripes, they could make a fantastic sequel. Vehicles need serious work, they need a lot more enemy variety, the towns and general world could use a little more life and did I mention they need more enemy variety? But the basics are there, so is the potential, and I still find this pretty addicting despite the flaws.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: b.boris52 on December 15, 2009, 07:53:13 am
My brother is studing hard on this game ,and he almost has finished it ,then he will play with me on the call of duty mw2 ,hehe!
Title: Borderlands
Post by: VinceP on December 15, 2009, 09:50:58 am
Here's how I see it. Borderlands was a damn good game when it first came out and EVERYONE was talking about it. But the hype dies down and people start to realize it was never all that fantastic. The story is absolute shit, and when you get into co-op with all your friends no one pays attention to the story at all. I don't feel like reading all the quests. I just mash buttons, accept random quests, and follow the waypoints.

The gameplay and replay value of it all is still great of course. It gets pretty boring after awhile having to go back and forth between locations and all the driving you have to do toward the middle of the game. But other than that it's good.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 15, 2009, 11:42:24 am
So, bottom line. Is it any good. Because the impression I am getting is everyone thinks it is kind of bad but everyone is still playing it regardless. What's the deal?
Title: Borderlands
Post by: Nikuru on December 15, 2009, 12:59:47 pm
It really depends on your tolerance for monotony.  Borderlands is easily a game I'll keep until my 360 becomes aged and ragged and is no longer a decent platform for gaming, just because it's entertaining.  Who REALLY needs story in a shooter?  All you need to know is that you're killing shit, and that should be a good enough reason to play it.  Co-op is pretty good, but it's not like anything was tailored exclusively to multiplayer.  You get better loot and enemies become more powerful with more people.  After the first playthrough, the difficulty is ramped up a bit and it's tough to play solo since you'll get mobbed by a few things at a time and they'll easily be able to overpower you.

It's really one of those "play it to believe it" sort of things, and the novelty of it all is tough to put into words.  Rent it or something before you buy into everyone's harsh judgment, since it seems like I'm one of the few people who wasn't absolutely disgusted by it.
Title: Borderlands
Post by: DoctorEars on December 15, 2009, 07:26:50 pm
Nikuru pretty much hit it spot on, despite the fact that the story didn't bother me like it did some people. The genre mix between RPG and FPS was well done and I still enjoy playing it, even after completing first and second playthrough. As soon as I have the money for Dr Neds Zombie Island I will be buying that, and I'll be buying Moxxi's Underdome when that's released in January (who DOESN'T want a horde mode arena in Borderlands?!?!?) Despite the monotony and repetitive nature of the quests, it's still a fun game and I'll continue to play it till Gearbox stop releasing DLC and released a sequel. No doubt I'll get the sequel as well.

I can't exactly get rid of the game, aside from deleting local content on Steam.