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Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Calunio on June 11, 2009, 09:00:34 pm
I REALLY feel like playing a dating sim. One with anime images, full of dialogues (preferrably not too linear), in which I have to manage something (character schedule, attributes, or something like it - not just talking). Sex/hentai is welcome, but not necessary. Nice graphics also welcome.

The only one I've ever played is True Love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Love_(video_game)). I want something like that.

And, of course, something I can find around the web.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Rowain on June 11, 2009, 09:20:55 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay

According to Slashdot, up to very recently, this sold on AMAZON.UK. A game where you have to rape a 12 year old girl and Amazon was selling it in the UK. Japan's ESRB has now banned (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/08/056259) rape in videogames though.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Ryan on June 11, 2009, 09:28:30 pm
ahahaha jesus christ.

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The story begins with Kimura being arrested for groping Aoi on a subway train. His father is an important politician, and manages to get his son released from jail. The next day, Kimura waits outside the Kiryuu family house and listens to their conversation. He follows Manaka, the youngest, to the subway and gropes her on the train. After getting off the train, he traps her in a public bathroom and rapes her, taking pictures of her semen-covered naked body with his cell phone.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Tau on June 11, 2009, 09:55:53 pm
That is one of the most fucked up things Ive ever read.. I really wish I hadn't now.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: crone_lover720 on June 11, 2009, 10:05:04 pm
the wikipedia article seems to be written by a fan
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After having his way with Aoi, Yuuko and Manaka are taken into the room via a secret door. With all 3 captured, he reveales his plans to make them his sex slaves. Of course, Yuuko tries to cover for her daughters, but breaks down in the end, Manaka breaks next, and finally Aoi as well.[2]
or anything in the story section.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: ATARI on June 11, 2009, 10:06:11 pm
jesus christ japan makes me sick
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Parker on June 11, 2009, 10:53:36 pm
When I was in High School there was this kid playing Ganguro Girl or whatever next to me in class. He told me everything about it. Maybe that's what you are looking for. Google that. You get to have sex with black people. <----
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Barack Obama on June 11, 2009, 11:12:38 pm
Man how bored can you get?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: NightBlade on June 11, 2009, 11:44:04 pm
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: jamie on June 12, 2009, 12:38:00 am
This kind of thing is where I begin to lose track of why people do the things they do. Like, high fantasy nonsense full of big adventures and all of that - I can get that, it's kind of exciting sometimes. Sometimes it isn't, but whatever - I can understand it. Dating sims though...I just don't know. Living vicariously through anime romance? Even if they were well written I don't get how you could avoid the realisation that this is just one of the saddest things you can have for a hobby. I've played one of these games before, years and years ago. It was some flash thing. I remember it being mild but there was this like sex mini-game at the end and I thought it was bizarre and kind of hilarious in a way - that's the only way I can really imagine being interested in these things like playing them to see what the appeal is in what seems like such an empty and sad way to entertain yourself.

It isn't reasonable for us to all be big heroes who do things like jump around and knock 80 guys out in a row. Plus, good games are just fun on either like a visceral or spatial level; having alot of power or exploring cool and strange environments. This stuff is just about entering into weird fantasy relationships (which, yep, are usually sexist or pervy) with event-triggered robots who you know how to deal with because they can only respond in fixed ways that you can predict. I couldn't put up with myself for too long getting involved in something like that. I would just keep thinking "this is gross and I am being pathetic" and that's what keeps me from playing it, aside from how boring it all sounds.

I feel the same way when I see those pop-up and banner ads like "LOOKING FOR A DATE IN YOUR AREA? WE HAVE MANY HOT GIRLS" because why do those exist? Who clicks on them thinking they are going to have sex? I guess alot of people do and if it's just about sex then maybe I can fathom it despite it being yucky and empty as all heck but this dating sim stuff usually doesn't even have sex in it, right? Or it only has it at the end. What's the appeal of it then? "Well done, you conquered the relationship! She...really likes you. 10 points."

I know, who cares blah blah but these are my thoughts.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Vellfire on June 12, 2009, 12:54:38 am
When I was in High School there was this kid playing Ganguro Girl or whatever next to me in class. He told me everything about it. Maybe that's what you are looking for. Google that. You get to have sex with black people. <----

man i played this once a few years ago because i didn't know what it was and i never even GOT to any sex because you have to like.....beat her at pong in the hotel room first or something and i couldn't win it


also they aren't black people they're just BLACK FACE people
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Barack Obama on June 12, 2009, 12:58:18 am
This kind of thing is where I begin to lose track of why people do the things they do. Like, high fantasy nonsense full of big adventures and all of that - I can get that, it's kind of exciting sometimes. Sometimes it isn't, but whatever - I can understand it. Dating sims though...I just don't know. Living vicariously through anime romance? Even if they were well written I don't get how you could avoid the realisation that this is just one of the saddest things you can have for a hobby. I've played one of these games before, years and years ago. It was some flash thing. I remember it being mild but there was this like sex mini-game at the end and I thought it was bizarre and kind of hilarious in a way - that's the only way I can really imagine being interested in these things like playing them to see what the appeal is in what seems like such an empty and sad way to entertain yourself.

It isn't reasonable for us to all be big heroes who do things like jump around and knock 80 guys out in a row. Plus, good games are just fun on either like a visceral or spatial level; having alot of power or exploring cool and strange environments. This stuff is just about entering into weird fantasy relationships (which, yep, are usually sexist or pervy) with event-triggered robots who you know how to deal with because they can only respond in fixed ways that you can predict. I couldn't put up with myself for too long getting involved in something like that. I would just keep thinking "this is gross and I am being pathetic" and that's what keeps me from playing it, aside from how boring it all sounds.

I feel the same way when I see those pop-up and banner ads like "LOOKING FOR A DATE IN YOUR AREA? WE HAVE MANY HOT GIRLS" because why do those exist? Who clicks on them thinking they are going to have sex? I guess alot of people do and if it's just about sex then maybe I can fathom it despite it being yucky and empty as all heck but this dating sim stuff usually doesn't even have sex in it, right? Or it only has it at the end. What's the appeal of it then? "Well done, you conquered the relationship! She...really likes you. 10 points."

I know, who cares blah blah but these are my thoughts.

I am down with this post

HOLLA
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: mkkmypet on June 12, 2009, 04:38:29 am
another weird, yet informing post from mkkmypet!
weeeelll i happen to a lot about this sort of thing. (probably because making visual novels, character art for videogames, and comics/manga are the things i want to do for my career when i'm older. embarassing, lame, etc... i know i know.)
okay so:
-Wanko to Kurasou (kind of loli-ish just so you know)
-Hitomi my Stepsister (hah it's, um, interesting)
-Harvest Moon Games (seriously. you say you want to have to schedule things/make decisions and not just feel like you're reading a book, right? well Harvest Moon games are pretty much the only "dating sim" that have good stuff to do other than dating.)
-School Days (has some creepy/messed up endings. good though.)
-Air (apparently very sad. has a good story.)
-Love Hina (a classic. led to the anime, which was popular)
that's pretty much what i got. i know more about otome games (dating sims for girls) than the usual eroge/gyaruge ones for guys. if you were interested in that, i could suggest more, but i dunno if you want to go for the guys... :P
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Rajew on June 12, 2009, 04:49:41 am
first furries, now dating sims.
holy crap from a 14 year old.
why do kids know these things!!!

edit: you shouldnt be playing loli dating games. harvest moon okay, but loli and HITOMI MY STEPSISTER (i can only assume it involves wooing your stepsister).
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Eltee on June 12, 2009, 06:11:11 am
oh god


why did mkkmypet have a list of dating sims



oh goddd
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 12, 2009, 06:25:40 am
Man I never understood why this rape incest childporn stuff was popular/ok in japan???? its fucked
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: dragonx on June 12, 2009, 06:39:36 am
another weird, yet informing post from mkkmypet!
weeeelll i happen to a lot about this sort of thing. (probably because making visual novels, character art for videogames, and comics/manga are the things i want to do for my career when i'm older. embarassing, lame, etc... i know i know.)
okay so:
-Wanko to Kurasou (kind of loli-ish just so you know)
-Hitomi my Stepsister (hah it's, um, interesting)
-Harvest Moon Games (seriously. you say you want to have to schedule things/make decisions and not just feel like you're reading a book, right? well Harvest Moon games are pretty much the only "dating sim" that have good stuff to do other than dating.)
-School Days (has some creepy/messed up endings. good though.)
-Air (apparently very sad. has a good story.)
-Love Hina (a classic. led to the anime, which was popular)
that's pretty much what i got. i know more about otome games (dating sims for girls) than the usual eroge/gyaruge ones for guys. if you were interested in that, i could suggest more, but i dunno if you want to go for the guys... :P

do you watch anime?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on June 12, 2009, 06:41:53 am
tbh i've never understood why anyone was even vaguely interested in these in any other way than as an excuse to get to the porn inside, and there are far better ways to do that anyhow
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: big ass skelly on June 12, 2009, 11:27:04 am
Someone needs to make a molest a child homebrew for DS it's what the console was made for
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: ATARI on June 12, 2009, 12:40:51 pm
oh god


why did mkkmypet have a list of dating sims



oh goddd
you can't tell me that as a 14 year old girl that you didn't have fantasies about dating anime characters in a "game" either
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: UPRC on June 12, 2009, 01:19:13 pm
I know that I sure did when I was a 14 year old girl.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Massy2k6 on June 12, 2009, 01:21:09 pm
I still am a 14 year old girl.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 12, 2009, 01:40:54 pm
If this School Days dating sim is anything like the anime the game will end with you getting stabbed to death by your girlfriend who then gets her head cut off by some jealous bitch who proceeds to carve your child out her womb so that the game ends with her taking your kid as her own.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: mkkmypet on June 12, 2009, 05:02:27 pm
If this School Days dating sim is anything like the anime the game will end with you getting stabbed to death by your girlfriend who then gets her head cut off by some jealous bitch who proceeds to carve your child out her womb so that the game ends with her taking your kid as her own.

pretty much. i saw the anime, though i haven't played the game. in it, there are some endings that turn out good for the character, though. the ending they chose for the anime was one of the "bad endings".

do you watch anime?

yeah. i'm kind of a horrible nerd. actually i'm more of a "closet nerd" though because people who know me IRL wouldn't really guess that i go on internet forums/play videogames/watch anime and stuff like that. i watch anime because i think that some of them are really entertaining or have good stories or whatever. some of my favorites: Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (Kai), Cowboy Bebop, Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu, Elfen Lied, Death Note, Oruchuban Ebichu, and Detective Academy Q.

Someone needs to make a molest a child homebrew for DS it's what the console was made for

it's called Doki Doki Majo Shinpan. you touch little girls to determine if they are witches or not.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Rajew on June 12, 2009, 05:13:01 pm
In my day, we threw women in the lake to see if they were witches...
also: Do your parents know/approve of you watching things like elfen lied (where if i remember correctly the first episode is a naked woman exploding people in the bloodiest and most violent ways defenitely AO content there)


also holy fuck at school days.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Supra Mairo on June 12, 2009, 10:11:43 pm
you're really scraping the bottom of the shit barrel now
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Nessiah on June 12, 2009, 11:38:46 pm
If this School Days dating sim is anything like the anime the game will end with you getting stabbed to death by your girlfriend who then gets her head cut off by some jealous bitch who proceeds to carve your child out her womb so that the game ends with her taking your kid as her own.

The anime was a combination of 2 bad endings of the original school days game. School days is just a normal ecchi game and has like 12 endings and 3 of them are the only bad ones which were the most popular. Because you know, people dislike happy endings  :fogetshrug:

I saw it because I wanted to know what they meant by animated streaming visual novel thingy. Which was...different. It was basically an anime, except you have choices and have more than one scene to see and have different endings.

I'm not sure if Ever17 or Narcissu counts but they were one of the decent ones out there.
Fate/Stay Night works too but if H scenes wise NASU porn  is just horrendous. Lol Mollusks. I rather see the Realta Nua CG Dragon
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: hobo2 on June 13, 2009, 03:08:15 am
Real life.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: crone_lover720 on June 13, 2009, 05:08:39 am
yeah, but the actual dating process is almost nonexistent beyond finding someone who likes you back and choosing whether or not you want to marry them. probably the best game mentioned so far tho. you can get it here http://www.educationalsimulations.com/products.html
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Eltee on June 13, 2009, 07:49:03 am
you know that's not what he meant


however that is still the best game mentionned so far
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 13, 2009, 03:00:44 pm


I'm not sure if Ever17 counts

I think thats just a visual novel rather than a dating sim but if Calunio is prepared to play visual novels then i'd recommend ONE ~ To the Radiant Season  (http://akane.is.moelicious.be/)

That has a fan translation patch and is easily found with a bit of googling.

I'm presuming you don't read Japanese, but if you do Binary Pot is just what you are looking for. There is a English trial translation floating around i'll see if i can find it for you.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Bandito on June 13, 2009, 03:14:20 pm
Man I never understood why this rape incest childporn stuff was popular/ok in japan???? its fucked


Do you really want to ask?

One of the laws in Japan: There is no age of consent.



I don't know if this is still true but I wouldn't doubt it.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 13, 2009, 03:26:09 pm
Do you really want to ask?

One of the laws in Japan: There is no age of consent.



I don't know if this is still true but I wouldn't doubt it.

Thats retarded.

Quote from: wikipedia
The "national" age of consent in Japan is 13, regardless of sexual orientation and/or gender, as specified by the Japanese Penal Code Articles 176 and 177.[6] However, "prefectures" can have local ordinances that prohibit sexual activities with any minor under 18.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#Japan

EDIT

scarily, The age of consent in The Philippines is 12! *shudders*
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 13, 2009, 04:58:48 pm
Binary Pot trial

(http://pub.gamingw.net/38990/BinaryPot.jpg)

The trial is all ages but the full version isn't. Shame it never got translated :( Soooo sad. It has a calender management etc and comes in Win and Mac versions.

Download trial here:

http://www.mangasos.com/dejavu/vn/projects-binarypottrial.html

NOTE VISTA USERS WILL HAVE TO RUN IN XP COMPATIBILITY MODE AND AS AN ADMIN
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Supra Mairo on June 13, 2009, 05:06:32 pm
when did everyone here become a closet dating sim fan?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Eltee on June 13, 2009, 06:06:31 pm
usual age of consent is 14, so 12 and 13 aren't that far off either way..

also, i wish this thread had never been made. i hate calunio from the bottom of my heart

why oh why
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: dragonx on June 13, 2009, 06:52:37 pm

yeah. i'm kind of a horrible nerd. actually i'm more of a "closet nerd" though because people who know me IRL wouldn't really guess that i go on internet forums/play videogames/watch anime and stuff like that. i watch anime because i think that some of them are really entertaining or have good stories or whatever. some of my favorites: Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (Kai), Cowboy Bebop, Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu, Elfen Lied, Death Note, Oruchuban Ebichu, and Detective Academy Q.



is it true that the longer an animes name is the better it is and the more you can pronounce it the more your peers accept you?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Rajew on June 13, 2009, 07:26:11 pm
usual age of consent is 14, so 12 and 13 aren't that far off either way..

also, i wish this thread had never been made. i hate calunio from the bottom of my heart

why oh why

Compare this to if he made a thread about MMO's and his passion for them.
Which do you hate more...

Also: Does franks adventure count as a dating sim? I played it when I was like 11, and I think you had to date girls to get their naked pictures? I dunno. Game was terrible
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 13, 2009, 07:46:59 pm
You may wanna take a look at Little busters! as well. It has a translated trial and the full game is being worked on too.

A review is here:

http://zepy.momotato.com/2007/08/09/little-busters/

Translated trial here:

http://v-n.blicky.net/Demos_Eng/littlebusters_sampleeng080726.zip
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Boulvae on June 13, 2009, 09:00:10 pm
Considering the Marvel Brothel game you made i'm not surprised your into this kinda thing, are you into other SIMs aswell?

Funny thing though if you made the people you date the idiots that follow you around in an RPG and put basic RPG game mechanics into the game (battles, exploring and everything) it'd end up being an RPG with a deep (as far as deep goes with the standards) interelationship system with your party.

I think one of the Personas or something has dating sim segments when your not in dungeons killing demons.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 13, 2009, 09:31:46 pm
Wasn't thousand arms like that? I wouldn't know because I never got far enough to matter (it's terrible) but I'm positive I remember the main character needing to go on dates with the female members of his party to raise his spirit level or some shit so he can become more powerful.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: mkkmypet on June 13, 2009, 09:38:36 pm
is it true that the longer an animes name is the better it is and the more you can pronounce it the more your peers accept you?

hah yeah it seems like it based on the series i've seen :P although i'm pretty sure it's more unusual to have a sentence-long title than a short one. the two i mentioned are the only ones i know of with titles that long. they just happen to be really good in my opinion.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni = When the Cicadas Cry (or just "When They Cry"). horror/psychological/sci-fi?/drama/comedy. about little kids killing each other, in plot. but in theme, it's about working together, friendship, and hope. it's good. :]

Jungle wa Itsumo Hale Nochi Guu literally would mean something like "The jungle was always Sunny, then came Guu" (it's a pun--the main characters name is Hare/Hale, which means "sunny"; and the other character is Guu, which... means goo?) but i've heard it translated as "Sunny With a Chance of Guu". in the English DVDs, it's just called "Hare + Guu" (but i prefer the punny, original name). it's just an absurdist comedy with really silly, great art and animations. sometimes it makes fun of serious animes, however it does have some aspects that can "hit home", hah. it's probably the one thing i would recommend most to people who don't normally even like anime.

In my day, we threw women in the lake to see if they were witches...
also: Do your parents know/approve of you watching things like elfen lied (where if i remember correctly the first episode is a naked woman exploding people in the bloodiest and most violent ways defenitely AO content there)

yeah my parents know of it but they haven't SEEN the series or anything. and also, the first episode is the most violent. there's not really anything equal to it in later episodes, and i thought the series as a whole had a great story, good art, etc... it wasn't just about the blood or the nudity. that stuff was just added as little details to make the show more appealing to young men. that doesn't mean that the basis of the show is adult though; it is sad and cute and i think that anybody could enjoy it if they get past the flashy extras.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Supra Mairo on June 13, 2009, 10:37:44 pm
i cant tell if you are trolling or being trolled or both
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Rajew on June 13, 2009, 11:10:52 pm
I think this is just how most people interact with mkkmypet! people troll her, and she notices it, and replies back dead seriously.
And it's scary sometimes.
Very, very scary.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Calunio on June 13, 2009, 11:39:44 pm
Dating sims though...I just don't know. Living vicariously through anime romance?

Well... you could say that about any kind of simulator.
Dating sims are fun... It's nothing like "I'm doing here what I couldn't do in real life".

i think, sometimes, we all just have moments of "damn, i'm really in the mood for a dating sim."

Precisely!

Considering the Marvel Brothel game you made i'm not surprised your into this kinda thing, are you into other SIMs aswell?

Funny thing though if you made the people you date the idiots that follow you around in an RPG and put basic RPG game mechanics into the game (battles, exploring and everything) it'd end up being an RPG with a deep (as far as deep goes with the standards) interelationship system with your party.

I think one of the Personas or something has dating sim segments when your not in dungeons killing demons.

Interestingly, what made me want to play a dating sim was watching my brother play Persona 4. It has a relationship very much like a dating sim, except it involves all kinds of relationship, not just dating. That would be even more interesting, but I don't think there's a game like that. I want a dating sim because I lost patience to RPG elements.
And yes, I'm into all kinds of SIMs.

Thanks for the games pointed out! I'll look into those. Found some flash dating sims on Newgrounds as well!
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Standard Toaster on June 14, 2009, 03:31:40 am
It has a relationship very much like a dating sim, except it involves all kinds of relationship, not just dating. That would be even more interesting, but I don't think there's a game like that.
try The Sims
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: dragonx on June 14, 2009, 05:29:07 am
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni = When the Cicadas Cry (or just "When They Cry"). horror/psychological/sci-fi?/drama/comedy. about little kids killing each other, in plot. but in theme, it's about working together, friendship, and hope. it's good. :]

haha Cicadas, have you noticed how they are in EVERY anime?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: mkkmypet on June 14, 2009, 05:54:59 am
haha Cicadas, have you noticed how they are in EVERY anime?

mmm no not really. i mean sure cicadas make a sound that is associated with awkwardness and silence but that's all they're really known for. in Higurashi, the cicadas really don't even play that important of a role. they're a motif in the story that usually signifies a murder, creating an eerie feeling towards them for the viewers, but that's about it.

also
i cant tell if you are trolling or being trolled or both

yes

I think this is just how most people interact with mkkmypet! people troll her, and she notices it, and replies back dead seriously.
And it's scary sometimes.
Very, very scary.

yeah i guess this describes how it usually goes :welp:
it's not that i don't realize other peoples' sarcasm or trolling (FYI, i Am quite a veteran in internet; i was Born And Raised on teh intarwebs...... L.O.L so i recongise saracism asap!!). it's just that i choose to reply despite it.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Barack Obama on June 14, 2009, 06:22:51 am
Binary Pot trial

(http://pub.gamingw.net/38990/BinaryPot.jpg)


how could you play something like this for more than like 10 minutes and not think "oh god I'm a faggot"
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Barack Obama on June 14, 2009, 06:23:54 am
2 minutes even
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Farren on June 14, 2009, 07:02:07 am
why do they all look the same

this is stupid though. I mean if they made some sort of porn out of it then it might not be AS stupid but it would still be pretty stupid.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Eltee on June 14, 2009, 07:46:33 am
you mean it's not even porn?




god
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 14, 2009, 07:55:09 am
Thats retarded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia#Japan

EDIT

scarily, The age of consent in The Philippines is 12! *shudders*

haha wow i never knew that. it explains alot
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 14, 2009, 08:05:30 am
how could you play something like this for more than like 10 minutes and not think "oh god I'm a faggot"

2 minutes even

Dating sims/visual novels are very similer if you cant play this for 10 mins then you might as well discard manga as well, books too. Try actully playing it before judging. If you tryed it and didn't like it, fair enough it's not for you.

why do they all look the same

this is stupid though. I mean if they made some sort of porn out of it then it might not be AS stupid but it would still be pretty stupid.

They dont all look the same. And liking something more because it's porn is pretty stupid. If you want porn buy some. Dont sugest everything you don't like should be pornagaphic to make it better because thats just disturbing. Infact I prefer my dating sims/visual novels to have as few H scenes as possible.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Christophomicus on June 14, 2009, 08:13:21 am
Books are generally far above what manga/anime are. Manga is ridiculously superficial and... well, terrible, at the best of times. You really honestly cannot group manga and books together. They share the common medium of paper but really that's about it.

EDIT: OK maybe I'm being a bit of a faggot here, but really 99% of manga/anime is woefully terrible and there are a few examples that sick out as EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE but for the most part they are designed for horny men or young boys hyped up on testosterone. Sure there are books like this, buuuuuuut the ratio of shitty books to good books vs shitty manga/anime to good manga/anime is astoundingly different.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: ThugTears666 on June 14, 2009, 08:24:34 am
Dating Sims are the gayest thing, I was going to download one as a joke and play it for a laugh but I honestly couldn't bring myself to do it.
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: c0nfu53d on June 14, 2009, 08:33:23 am
Dating Sims are the gayest thing, I was going to download one as a joke and play it for a laugh but I honestly couldn't bring myself to do it.

If you haven't played it how do you know it's gay/bad. This is why there is no market for them in the west - nobody will give them a chance. Try Binary Pot trial and let me know what you think. You'll be suprised.

Books are generally far above what manga/anime are. Manga is ridiculously superficial and... well, terrible, at the best of times. You really honestly cannot group manga and books together. They share the common medium of paper but really that's about it.

EDIT: OK maybe I'm being a bit of a faggot here, but really 99% of manga/anime is woefully terrible and there are a few examples that sick out as EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE but for the most part they are designed for horny men or young boys hyped up on testosterone. Sure there are books like this, buuuuuuut the ratio of shitty books to good books vs shitty manga/anime to good manga/anime is astoundingly different.

Ok, yeah you can't really conpare books to manga or visual novels but what i was trying to say is a lot of dating sims and all visual novel are judged based on story and if people are going to disregard them based on lack of porn or other silly things then they may as well ditch other mediums that tell stories too.

There is a lot of shit anime/manga but the same can be said for books too. They cant all be good.

EDIT

99% is a bit harsh, mate.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on June 14, 2009, 10:48:06 am
i dont wanna try it

(http://pub.gamingw.net/38990/BinaryPot.jpg)

look at it man, its cartoon pre-teen looking girls with swords
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Post by: Christophomicus on June 14, 2009, 11:42:34 am
Ok, yeah you can't really conpare books to manga or visual novels but what i was trying to say is a lot of dating sims and all visual novel are judged based on story and if people are going to disregard them based on lack of porn or other silly things then they may as well ditch other mediums that tell stories too.

There is a lot of shit anime/manga but the same can be said for books too. They cant all be good.

EDIT

99% is a bit harsh, mate.

95% at best perhaps. It's not that there's no market for them in the west, it's that dating sims are primarily for horny old japanese dudes. The stories in anime are usually... mediocre at best. Every girl fills a particular niche that we've all seen before and I don't know, don't you ever get a little tired of ANIME PHYSICS (like FF7: AC) and even though anime physics don't really factor into dating sims at all there's just that whole anime CRINGE, ya know? Like I'm not trying to be a dick, but yeah when I was younger I was like "fuck yeah! sweet moves bro" buuuuuuut these days don't you ever just see it and go "oh god..." because honestly that's...

well I can't finish that sentence because I've lost my train of thought. I guess my main points are basically that anime characters are horrible and stereotypical and designed to appeal to horny old dudes (m...master..... coffee, tea or... me?) and god damn it they're usually just terrible, ESPECIALLY in dating sims. If we were talking about ADVENTURE ANIME ok you're not going to get MANY good examples but you can at least pull something out of it but dating sims are all the god damn same. And the stories are bleh too (minorly traumatic event in past leading to waaaaay overblown reaction in present? check!) and I don't know I just can't stomach them these days because they're unrealistic and terrible.

Not trying to be a dick here but I dunno, just throwing my opinion out there!
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Post by: SpiralViper on June 14, 2009, 12:51:17 pm
persona 3
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Post by: Supra Mairo on June 14, 2009, 02:11:38 pm
Whats a position select mode?
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 14, 2009, 04:43:48 pm
Whats a position select mode?

HaHa! I bet you think its sexual positions lol. Basicly the games set in an internet cafe called Binary Pot and position select means you get to select where in the cafe you want to go. location would have been a better translation than position. Each girl has a job and is in a certain part of the cafe iw kitchen, office, cafe etc.


By the way it needs to be set in win 98 compatability mode not xp, my mistake.
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Post by: Farren on June 14, 2009, 09:51:30 pm
hey have you ever been to a japanese internet cafe?

I have and no they don't talk to each other and try to pick each other up they sit in their little stalls and play mmos
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on June 14, 2009, 10:25:25 pm
that describes every net cafe ever

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Post by: Rajew on June 15, 2009, 01:06:57 am
99% is a bit harsh, mate.
Not really, when you consider that 99% of everything is crap. Seriously, if I wanted to dedicate myself to it for a little while, for every 1 X you name, I can find 99 terrible X.
This is the world we live in, and these are the hands we're given.
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Post by: Farren on June 15, 2009, 05:32:42 am
that describes every net cafe ever



probably but I've never seen so many people playing mmos in one place in my entire life.

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This is the world we live in, and these are the hands we're given.

Use them and let's start trying, To make is a place worth living in
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Post by: Ohlichris on June 15, 2009, 06:17:35 am
There are plenty of good anime out there, but for every good one there's like a 100 horrible ones. Ever since the 90's Japan's been going into Loli territory, something I find really disgusting and that should be dealt with. Dating sims are basically porn, most of them appealing to otaku and/or NEETs. I remember there was a dating sim buzz around my school when I was 11/12 (basically we played Ganguro Girl and other shitty games). The whole objective of the games was to see the sex scene at the end, provided you win. We lost interest soon after.

There are actually some interesting visual novels out there. Unfortunately a lot of them feature horrible, generic artwork.
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Post by: Christophomicus on June 15, 2009, 07:40:18 am
Man how hard can visual novels be to make anyway. If you think about it there's really only a few variables you need to control (girl a affection, girl b affection etc, are you in a relationship? y/n choice (1 or 0), day if you really want to go there). I mean now that I think about it they're so god damn simple that it almost seems LAZY. There's a reason ROMANTIC PURSUITS are usually a SIDE QUEST in a bigger game.

Maybe I'm not thinking into it enough but I don't know it doesn't really seem that difficult at all. Chuck in some hackneyed, done-to-death systems, some cute anime girls *_* and you've got a best seller.

EDIT: Dating sims, rather. Visual novels are even easier!
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 15, 2009, 03:52:56 pm
Man how hard can visual novels be to make anyway. If you think about it there's really only a few variables you need to control (girl a affection, girl b affection etc, are you in a relationship? y/n choice (1 or 0), day if you really want to go there). I mean now that I think about it they're so god damn simple that it almost seems LAZY. There's a reason ROMANTIC PURSUITS are usually a SIDE QUEST in a bigger game.

Maybe I'm not thinking into it enough but I don't know it doesn't really seem that difficult at all. Chuck in some hackneyed, done-to-death systems, some cute anime girls *_* and you've got a best seller.

EDIT: Dating sims, rather. Visual novels are even easier!

The game framework is super easy - esp. when you have an easy to use visual novel creator like Novelty (http://www.visualnovelty.com/) no coding needed but scripting is included for those who want to make dating sims or add minigames. The style of artwork used is up to the creator. Hotel dusk is a visual novel and that can't be discribed as bog standard anime style.

The question is: Can you write a decent story? Thats the hard part. You cant even reley on the old "find 8 crystals to save the world from evil" like you can in RPG's.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 15, 2009, 04:09:50 pm
the only good visual novel i can think of is hotel dusk



and guess what there's no anime dating going on
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Post by: Christophomicus on June 15, 2009, 04:21:26 pm
The game framework is super easy - esp. when you have an easy to use visual novel creator like Novelty (http://www.visualnovelty.com/) no coding needed but scripting is included for those who want to make dating sims or add minigames. The style of artwork used is up to the creator. Hotel dusk is a visual novel and that can't be discribed as bog standard anime style.

The question is: Can you write a decent story? Thats the hard part. You cant even reley on the old "find 8 crystals to save the world from evil" like you can in RPG's.

Yeah good point. I've always been sorta good at writing stories and characters and shit so I guess I didn't really factor that into the equation.




Also, would Trace Memory/Another Code be considered a visual novel or is that more... puzzle style?
Title: I need a dating sim
Post by: Vellfire on June 15, 2009, 04:59:03 pm
Trace Memory seemed a lot less visual novel than Hotel Dusk, but I guess it still counts.
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 15, 2009, 06:41:24 pm
Never played trace memory but the best Visual Novel i ever played was Time Hollow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Hollow It's totally absorbing. It's a DS game and you can draw portholes in time and add/remove objets in past to change the present. It  would be a 10/10 game if it wasn't woefully short. No dating here either.
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 15, 2009, 08:26:22 pm
Dating sims/visual novels are very similer if you cant play this for 10 mins then you might as well discard manga as well, books too. Try actully playing it before judging. If you tryed it and didn't like it, fair enough it's not for you.

lol "don't like gay anime dating simulations?? guess you don't like books!"

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Post by: Barack Obama on June 15, 2009, 08:28:38 pm
what kind of books do you like to read? anime books and romance novels?
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Post by: Ohlichris on June 15, 2009, 08:39:17 pm
Trace Memory/Another Code and Hotel Dusk are something of a mix between an adventure game and a visual novel (and it works). Can't wait for the Wii game coming soon.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 15, 2009, 09:05:54 pm
Basically my point was you can get visual novels that aren't ANIME DATING
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 15, 2009, 10:32:58 pm
I've just come across this, Nerr2Babe, a short dating sim based on Super Paper Mario. lol should be funny. No h stuff here totally SFW.

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3152

(http://pub.gamingw.net/38990/nerr2babe.png)
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Post by: elkalo on June 16, 2009, 12:42:07 am
um try Love Hima sim date or something like thst.
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Post by: Pasty on June 16, 2009, 02:55:24 am
stop saying h.  just call it a sex scene.  good lord

hey i found this on tigsource


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I just finished Katawa Shoujo (Lilly's ending anyway) and it was just.... Wow. I mean it was just... wow. Despite this being the first visual novel I've played (?) through, it definitely feels like something special, partially because of the subject. Which is Katawa. Now katawa, roughly translated, means "cripple" or "retard". Not a nice word. But it fits, because it's not a nice thing to be disfigured, or to have your arms or legs taken from you.

The game takes place after Hisao (the main character)has a heart attack, and subsequently discovers that he has a congenital heart defect. Once Hisao gets out of the hospital, he is transferred to Yamaku, school for the disabled. He then meets various girls during the short time in the first act (a week overall). But a portion of the game is also about Hisao dealing with his disability.

At heart, Katawa Shoujo is a dating sim, first posted on the /a/ board of 4chan. But it's so much more than that. It's a portrayal of the disabled and how they deal with their problems - and one of the best out there at that.Katawa Shoujo is still under development by 4 Leaf Studios, who have been working on it for 3 years now. It's a great game and needs to be experienced by everyone who has a few hours. (Lilly and Hanako are my favorite girls)

http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/act1/%5B4LS%5Dks_a1_%5Bwin%5D%5BB31099EF%5D.exe

can anyone play this and tell me if it's okay (i.e. is it entertaining, is the subject matter treated well, etc)?  i can't really download any big files right now and i've never played these types of games but it sounds interesting enough, i don't know
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 16, 2009, 06:25:04 am
stop saying h.  just call it a sex scene.  good lord


can anyone play this and tell me if it's okay (i.e. is it entertaining, is the subject matter treated well, etc)?  i can't really download any big files right now and i've never played these types of games but it sounds interesting enough, i don't know

Not played this and file size is too big right now will download tonight and let you know what I think. Looks good though.

oh, and h is quicker to type lol
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Post by: Evangel on June 16, 2009, 06:06:33 pm
I remember the PSX Star Ocean game had some dating sim elements.  It was more like individual moments with team members, but I think eventually you could have a love triangle deal going on.  Your relationship with other characters affected battles as well, I think.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 16, 2009, 06:34:03 pm
i played that too back when i used to watch anime all the time.....it's dumb as hell like the others sorry
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 16, 2009, 07:15:18 pm
Not played this and file size is too big right now will download tonight and let you know what I think. Looks good though.



Ok had a quick play and it's very well written. i have a feeling it'll be very good.
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Post by: ATARI on June 16, 2009, 08:50:21 pm
looks like we've found ourselves another dating simulation masterpiece.... the greatest of masterpieces
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Post by: Nessiah on June 16, 2009, 11:25:57 pm
I played Katawa Shoujo, first OELVN and came from 4chan. It's pretty good you know since it was well written specially from the fact it came from 4chan. It's generic school type thing but very professionally made.

Also Ever17 and Umineko. I cannot stress this enough. Just play those freaking two games to completion and tell me if Visual Novels suck. Ever17 is awesome. I am not joking. I made a VN hater love VNs because of it and don't think of getting yourself spoiled unless you guys want to have anti-zen since it won't make sense and destroy the whole plot of the game :|
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Post by: Vellfire on June 17, 2009, 12:27:33 am
I think visual novels and dating games need to be separated because you can hate dating games and still like visual novels (this is me)


in fact i'm pretty sure all the negativity in this topic was towards JUST dating games
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Post by: Nessiah on June 17, 2009, 12:29:04 am
They are different. Visual Novels like Narcissu doesn't even have dating sim elements. but at the same time Fate/Stay Night has dating sim reference but it's still a visual novel because basically you can't even woo the other 2 girls without getting Saber's route first. Ever17 isn't even a dating sim since no matter what in the end,

Visual Novel = Different Endings and paths or Just a book
Dating Sim = get any girl you want without any direct storyline to follow e.g. the games in newgrounds dating sim.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 17, 2009, 12:35:51 am
This topic is about dating sims though, this:

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Dating sims/visual novels are very similer if you cant play this for 10 mins then you might as well discard manga as well, books too. Try actully playing it before judging. If you tryed it and didn't like it, fair enough it's not for you.

was pretty much just a cheap connection between the two in order to try to justify it (it was basically like saying YOU DON'T LIKE CHEESY ROMANCE NOVELS?  WHY DO YOU EVEN READ THEN, THEY'RE BOTH BOOKS)

no one in this topic was anti-visual novels just anti-dating games, you yourself have nothing to defend here
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Post by: Supra Mairo on June 17, 2009, 12:49:49 pm
Ok had a quick play and it's very well written.
I thought this was an anime game?
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Post by: Lars on June 18, 2009, 10:17:33 am
how about gta4?
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Post by: Supra Mairo on June 18, 2009, 12:15:55 pm
n1 mate.
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Post by: Eltee on June 18, 2009, 02:24:11 pm
san andreas had more women


unless you want to play date with your cousin and a jamaican
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Post by: SpiralViper on June 21, 2009, 08:28:08 am
i liked to shove hookers what does that say about my flirting style?
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Post by: Immakinganaccountk on August 07, 2009, 08:01:54 pm
I don't know if I'm just ignorant or not but aren't penises mandated to be censored in Japan? Rape: AOK Penises: BAD?
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Post by: Rajew on August 07, 2009, 08:03:53 pm
Actually the Japanese government basically banned all sexual deviancy in games a month or two ago. I think it applies to movies, books, etc too.
I might be wrong let me see if I can find articles

(note: I will not actually look for articles)
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Post by: Vellfire on August 07, 2009, 08:07:11 pm
I don't know if I'm just ignorant or not but aren't penises mandated to be censored in Japan? Rape: AOK Penises: BAD?

it's pubic hair that japan censors
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Post by: the bloddy ghost on August 07, 2009, 08:14:12 pm
pubic hair is the worst offense, honestly. i can't think of a single person who like pubes.
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Post by: Immakinganaccountk on August 07, 2009, 10:33:28 pm
No results so far but someone wrote a Wikipedia article on Japanese pornography. :welp:
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Post by: Parker on August 09, 2009, 11:58:52 pm
so did anyone ever say what the best h game is? i need it for research
(this is actually not totally a joke. i have never played one of these games
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Post by: General Robert E. Lee on August 10, 2009, 12:07:25 am
The only two hentai games I can name off the top of my head are Do You Like Horny Bunnies and Kana Little Sister.
One of them I remember because of the name and the other I remember because it's about a guy who has sex with his dying sister.
I'm willing to bet one of those is the best of all time.