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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: cowardknower on June 12, 2009, 07:13:42 am
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http://www.sexinchrist.com
Since a husband’s jealousy can be aroused whether or not his wife has actually had sex with another man, what is pertinent here is not the act of extramarital intercourse, but the husband’s feeling of being wronged. So a wife’s lesbian activities, even though not in the parameters of what the Bible defines as adulterous behavior, could nevertheless be considered adultery if it makes the wife’s husband jealous.
We know that God doesn't like it when we do things halfway. "So because thou art lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth." (Rev 3:16) So if you're going to shave, shave. If you're going to go natural, go natural. But avoid stubble. It is unsightly, itchy, and uncomfortable for both you and your spouse.
Are you saving yourself for your wedding night? The Devil wants you to fail, that’s why he puts stumbling blocks in your way. But God wants you to succeed, and that’s why he has given us an alternative to intercourse before marriage: anal sex. Through anal sex, you can satisfy your body’s needs, while you avoid the risk of unwanted pregnancy and still keep yourself pure for marriage.
Is this old news? I'm really surprised that, as a pastor's son, I haven't heard any of this before. A lot of this is totally outside the box sexual thinking-- the box that WE create, that is. If you look at it in a biblical context, you'll see it's totally within the only box that matters-- God's box.
This page has really opened my eyes to new ways for me to enjoy sexuality in Christ.
Thoughts, guys? Any other Christians here that are seriously impacted by this site?
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*deletes p911*
*all p911 topics pour into General*
oh... oh god what have w e dun
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this isn't really a 9/11 topic, if it were in the 9/11 it'd likely get different replies.
also are you really a pk? do you get called a 'pk?'
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is this a serious topic? careful what you say here, we have young impressionable christians here and they're all going to ruin their anuses with blasphemy like this.
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I had no idea my facial hair was so heretical
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I remember a few months back some news station reported on a church that said married couples should have more sex. I thought, wow, the church is doing something good. Then the entire segment ended up being the reporters saying RAPE IS WRONG. wtf?
christians pick and choose what they want from the bible, so I don't really see why this would be a big deal unless you make it a big deal for yourself. If you're going to follow the bible 100%, you'd better give away all of your possessions and start stoning unruly children. This site interprets the bible one way, while it could be interpreted a thousand other ways.
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I remember a few months back some news station reported on a church that said married couples should have more sex. I thought, wow, the church is doing something good. Then the entire segment ended up being the reporters saying RAPE IS WRONG. wtf?
how are those two conflicting ideas
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stuff like this just goes to show how stupid and stubborn people are. You got some idiot sitting there and staring at a book dissapointed he can't have sex until wedlock but rather then come to the conclusion that its all bullshit he's going to look for loopholes and ways around it or................behind it
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sexual frustration is a bad reason to conclude that a religion is alllll bullshit
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how are those two conflicting ideas
It wasn't what the segment was about. The anchors seemed to think that if the church supports sex, that men are going to start raping their wives. Why the fuck would someone come to that conclusion
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oh i thought it might be something like if the church did not support sex the husbands, mad with sexual frustration, would stalk the streets in search of some ladies to exert control over
also whats up with a church needing to explicitly say that married couples are allowed to know each other very well in a biblical fashion? that's kind of weird.
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this isn't really a 9/11 topic, if it were in the 9/11 it'd likely get different replies.
also are you really a pk? do you get called a 'pk?'
Yes. Yes.
christians pick and choose what they want from the bible, so I don't really see why this would be a big deal unless you make it a big deal for yourself. If you're going to follow the bible 100%, you'd better give away all of your possessions and start stoning unruly children. This site interprets the bible one way, while it could be interpreted a thousand other ways.
I'm not picking and choosing at all. A real, logically sound truth is in there if you follow the books in a linear and literal fashion.
stuff like this just goes to show how stupid and stubborn people are. You got some idiot sitting there and staring at a book dissapointed he can't have sex until wedlock but rather then come to the conclusion that its all bullshit he's going to look for loopholes and ways around it or................behind it
None of these are loopholes.
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Yes. Yes.
I'm not picking and choosing at all. A real, logically sound truth is in there if you follow the books in a linear and literal fashion.
the bible says the world is flat. the bible says pi equals exactly three. the bible says unicorns exist/did exist. the writer of the bible didn't seem to mind that moses had his troops rape captured women. the bible says you should stone homosexuals. the bible says that a guy in the sky murdered thousands upon thousands of people while the guy in hell only killed a few, yet the guy in the sky is considered the good one.
I know you don't agree with a lot of those things, and neither do most sane, intelligent people. You are picking and choosing because you don't go around stoning homosexuals, and you don't believe the world is flat. And if you do those things, I don't care how righteous your god says it is, you're a piece of shit.
There is a profound truth in nearly every piece of literature ever written. If you spend enough time analyzing and interpreting, any book can give you really good advice. But at the same time, there's a lot of shit that has to be waded through.
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They didn't have decimals at that time. And no, it talks about the circle of the earth.
Maybe Unicorns DID exist, or maybe something like a unicorn, sans the magic power.
We're living in a different dispensation, bro.
Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John [the Baptist]: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached.
The law-- that's the old testament commandments-- doesn't apply today. I am NOT picking and choosing.
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Since a husband’s jealousy can be aroused whether or not his wife has actually had sex with another man, what is pertinent here is not the act of extramarital intercourse, but the husband’s feeling of being wronged. So a wife’s lesbian activities, even though not in the parameters of what the Bible defines as adulterous behavior, could nevertheless be considered adultery if it makes the wife’s husband jealous.
This.
I'm glad this has been brought up. Women rarely take account for their actions, and how they affect their partner/spouse. I feel that the site could definitely further expound on this; going out without telling their partner, picking up the kids from soccer practice and not making dinner, talking to other men. These are all acts that should be deemed punishable, both socially and figuratively in relation to the bible.
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the bible says unicorns exist/did exist.
haha what is this
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Maybe Unicorns DID exist, or maybe something like a unicorn, sans the magic power..
Rhinoceros!!!
Also lollin' at the new "bible suxx" thread.
btw, I've heard the idea that anal sex doesn't breach virginity or whatever a lot! I've always considered it BS, but whatever. It's a semi-common belief amongst Christians as far as I'm aware! Even though I THINK(correct me if I'm wrong) the bible might say any sex besides missionary position with your wife to have kids is sinful (but this might be one of those things people made up because sex is evil!!)
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This.
I'm glad this has been brought up. Women rarely take account for their actions, and how they affect their partner/spouse. I feel that the site could definitely further expound on this; going out without telling their partner, picking up the kids from soccer practice and not making dinner, talking to other men. These are all acts that should be deemed punishable, both socially and figuratively in relation to the bible.
please please please please tell me this is a joke post
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They didn't have decimals at that time. And no, it talks about the circle of the earth.
Maybe Unicorns DID exist, or maybe something like a unicorn, sans the magic power.
We're living in a different dispensation, bro.
The law-- that's the old testament commandments-- doesn't apply today. I am NOT picking and choosing.
ahahahahah. i hope you're jokin!
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god is great, god is good, and we thank him for these posts, and each other. amen.
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what the fuck that was a gold postin' post
I demand that warn be retracted immediately and doppler be commended for his razor sharp wit
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hey is it still wrong if I fuck a girl in the ass before wedlock to satisfy my sexual urges and just pretend its a guy to satisfy my other sexual urges?
I mean, technically I'm not having sex with another man so it would be alright, right? The bible doesn't say anything about not pretending.
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well what do you mean compel? that's not really the kind of behavior He wants to endorse
also a sin in your thoughts is still a sin... i am pretty sure
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Uh Yea this is kinda exciting for me as a catholic!
I've primarily fallen out of god/my religion because I wanted to sleep around during college because I always thought it was well established as a sin. I guess not! I planned on returning to the faith once I got my degree, wanted to settle down, etc. but if this interpretation turns out to be true then I may as well jump back on board. I was kinda curious about anal anyways
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pretty sure god blew up a city called Sodom.
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pretty sure god blew up a city called Sodom.
That's the best part of the Old Testament.
So a couple angels go to this city to find a guy, and as they go to the guys house every man in the city gather around and demand to "know" the angels. The guy, knowing they are angels (everyone else just thinks they are pretty) offers his wife and daughters to them instead, and begs the folk of the city to let the angels go unharmed.
Eventually the angels and guy escape and the city is exploded.
After this point, ANY sexual deviant (although mostly used in the context of bestiality and homosexuality) was referred to as a Sodomite, sodomy being sexual deviancy.
Moral of the story is less anti-gay but more anti-mob mentality, actually.
edit: jumbotron its just kind of like fire from heaven??? G-d has magicaldivine powers like that
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aaAAARGH PLEASE stop making this kind of topics because they urge me to make utterly retarded replies that end up ruining my shit image even more. Seriously. Shitposting is like crack to me, stop shoveling/spoonfeeding it to me
So wait, what exactly went on in Sodom and Gomorra? Did God unleash the first a-bomb there or what?
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stop it don't warn dopple. warn everyone who said Is This A Joke Post
also no swain it is illegal to even fantasize about having relations with another man.
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ahahahahah. i hope you're jokin!
i know hes not joking at least about the law of the old testament, which he is right has no relevance anymore
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i know hes not joking at least about the law of the old testament, which he is right has no relevance anymore
it's still apparently the word of god though, isn't it?
Does this mean you throw out Genesis as well? So you don't have to be a creationist? I was under the impression that most creationists in the US are also christian, and creation is based on a book in the Old Testament.
Or is it just the rules of the old testament that are thrown out? If that's the case, how the hell ISN'T that picking and choosing?
Both the old and new testaments have lots of sexist garbage, like stuff about how women should totally subject themselves to the wills of their husbands. I understand that the scripture was written a long time ago, when equal rights weren't very high priorities, but this is the shit that god supposedly said.
Jesus himself had nothing against slavery. Again, a product of the time his story was written. But we all know that sexism and slavery are wrong. Most christians today would agree that slavery is absolutely evil, yet the bible really doesn't have anything against it. In that regard, Americans are more moral than god or Jesus.
But seriously dude, unicorns never fucking existed. holy shit.
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why are you dudes are so bad at identifying jokey (is jokey the right word? insincere is what i tend to use. non-serious or fake or in character) posts anyway
also genesis isn't law, it's just fact. can you find the unicorn passage of the bible for me though because i would like to see how that played out
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ryan. your a dummy
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there are others. i just don't like to see people laughing about my belief system
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you know what
jesus didn't have anything against slavery because he was probably just as ignorant as the other people he grew up with, then after the crucifixion and then he came back from the resurrection and was like "fuck it, they'll figure it out"
and thats why we still have mcdonalds and walmarts to this very day
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It's really fairly hard to tell which posts are jokes and which aren't but if you believe that unicorns existed I don't, well, let's just say don't drink water too quickly or you might drowned. Try and remember to breathe everyonce and a while too, once you've mastered it through your mouth you might want to try your nose.
The bible is full of contradictions. David knocked out a giant with a rock then cut his head of with his own sword, but the bible says don't kill people and don't hurt people, and Jesus said 'let he who has not sinned cast the first stone,' when David sinned (he disobeyed his father and the bible also says EVERYONE has sinned). Moses killed a dude and then God drowned the entire egyptian army. Also the bible had 'kings' and 'rulers' and said you should obey them, when that's not what democracy is about at all.
As for the anal sex..... hmmmmm that's an interesting point. I'm not too sure though but i'm fairly certain the bible says ANY contact with genitals is sinful, you're only allowed to have sex if you're trying to make a baby.
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if there is anyone genuinely buying this, they have been swallowed whole by maybe the most sarcasm in any topic ever.
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ps. is there a non-biblical record of the jews escaping from egypt in history books from either egypt or israel?
serious question btw
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Maybe you should crack open a bible, the support is all genuine.
also @ your second post, idk but I doubt it.
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Maybe you should crack open a bible, the support is all genuine.
also @ your second post, idk but I doubt it.
I am still eager to see genuine support for some of the things the bible claims. And by genuine I mean not found just in the bible. I could say Star Wars was totally genuine, just look at the movies, books, and video games, and there's your proof.
I would really like to know of ANY outside sources that can help verify the existence of Jesus. Nothing I've found was made anywhere near the time of his supposed existence, always thirty to sixty years after his supposed death.
also genesis isn't law, it's just fact. can you find the unicorn passage of the bible for me though because i would like to see how that played out
Ever heard of Google? (http://also genesis isn't law, it's just fact. can you find the unicorn passage of the bible for me though because i would like to see how that played out)
Also, genesis is not fact. it's a hypothesis.
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Uhhhhh hey there's the BIBLE. Star wars doesn't have a book like God or Science, that's why it's not real. Also the book of Isiah talks about Jesus like 200 years before his 'supposed existence'
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FTR star wars has like dozens and dozens of books which is a pretty good parallel to the books in the bible.
What he's saying is that if the stories in the bible are in fact history, he'd like to see the records from outside sources. IE. the egyptian account of the jewish slaves being freed.
edit: as for the record of Jesus being an actual person, I'd bet my life there wasn't actually a Jesus, at least not the one in the bible. I don't have a link for it but there's this whole thing about the egyptian god Horus, which has a virgin birth, was crucified, etc... and it seems a little convenient that Jesus would be unconnected.
edit2:here's a pretty good chart of jesus vs horus
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm
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fuck, I can't troll.
I just can't do it. It isn't even funny.
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FTR star wars has like dozens and dozens of books which is a pretty good parallel to the books in the bible.
What he's saying is that if the stories in the bible are in fact history, he'd like to see the records from outside sources. IE. the egyptian account of the jewish slaves being freed.
edit: as for the record of Jesus being an actual person, I'd bet my life there wasn't actually a Jesus, at least not the one in the bible. I don't have a link for it but there's this whole thing about the egyptian god Horus, which has a virgin birth, was crucified, etc... and it seems a little convenient that Jesus would be unconnected.
edit2:here's a pretty good chart of jesus vs horus
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm
Yo don't forget Mithra, Mithra is also a lot like Jesus.
also :woop:
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so they adapted the story of HORYS KRST (our Lord Jesus Christ) to apply to a more contemporary setting. big shmeal. he still existed, idiots.
really tho if you read that site and don't think hmm..somethins a lil fishy here, there is something wrong with you or you are a young warrior atheist. iirc there are like 20 Horuses and that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.
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that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.
holy shit
dude, Egypt's history goes back THOUSANDS of years before jesus's supposed existence. Horus was worshipped during the pre-dynastic period, which was 4000 years before christ. Hey, that's around the time the world was invented!
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u have to read the first part of the sentence in order for the part u quoted to make sense
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i think i saw this in the da vinci code but then my monsignor told me it was all a bunch of hooey so i don't know who to believe.
you know what i don't like about catholicism? priests. especially when they get all "who gave YOU the right???!" to protestants about con- vs. transubstantiation. and other things. then i try to think of beliefs that i have held so strongly as a belief in god would be and i couldn't really think of any that were totally belief-based. you believe in the wind don't you? that it exists? well you can't see god but you can't see wind either except in the ripples it creates and things that it swirls around and god makes ripples too. so how do you know to attribute them to god. well how do you know to attribute it to the wind? you just do. well it's like that with god too if you would just use your senses. i hope no one makes this argument. crows would be scared to munch breakfast dinner or lunch in the presence of that argument
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so they adapted the story of HORYS KRST (our Lord Jesus Christ) to apply to a more contemporary setting. big shmeal. he still existed, idiots.
really tho if you read that site and don't think hmm..somethins a lil fishy here, there is something wrong with you or you are a young warrior atheist. iirc there are like 20 Horuses and that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.
wait, do you mean horus still existed or jesus did?
What you said makes no sense; if jesus's story is just a culturally adapted story of horus, that negates jesus's existence. the only evidence of there being a jesus is the bible, which you can throw out the window if you think it's an adaptation of horus's story.
Also, Horus was only one god, but represented the sky, moon, sun, etc... which were worshipped separately so that's where you're getting that. Regardless of it, you're suggesting that horus was worshiped less than 2000 years ago is kind of silly.
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That's exactly true. Maybe you should check out some egyptology Earl, egyptian religion began decades before Jesus Christ even supposedly existed. It's just like how Adolf Hitler never existed, he's just a cultural bricolage of prevailing villainous archetypes.
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I think he's trying (badly) to suggest that there could supposedly be 20 different versions of the Horus story, and just because the figure existed and was worshiped long before the story of Jesus Christ was written, doesn't automatically mean that every single story referencing the figure was invented at the same time. The evidence that ties the biography of the figure Horus to that of Christ could come from sources that came about more recently than the Bible's story.
Although I'm quite certain the story about Horus being born of a virgin along with the other factors that tie his life to Jesus comes from evidence that is proved to exist long before the bible. The truth of the matter is that the connection is actually shared among a large set of dieties among varying religions and cultures throughout history. The source of which can all be tied to astrological phoenomena that happen during the equinoxes. (which explains the positions both Christmas and Easter hold on the calendar)
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wait, do you mean horus still existed or jesus did?
What you said makes no sense; if jesus's story is just a culturally adapted story of horus, that negates jesus's existence. the only evidence of there being a jesus is the bible, which you can throw out the window if you think it's an adaptation of horus's story.
I know you're a mongoloid but let's get real bub: jesus is horus. horus existed. the bible is the story of horus adapted to a contemporary setting. you weren't even supposed to take this part seriously
Also, Horus was only one god, but represented the sky, moon, sun, etc... which were worshipped separately so that's where you're getting that.
This isn't true at all. You can browse the wikipedia page for Horus and have a better understanding of him than this.
Regardless of it, you're suggesting that horus was worshiped less than 2000 years ago is kind of silly.
hahaha, I'm pretty sure Xanqui did the same thing before he edited his post. you know the egyptians, they were still around 2000 years ago. the rulers of Egypt during Jesus's time, the Romans and before that the Ptolemies, accepted the Egyptian religion. and since Egypt didn't become an arabic state until 636 AD, the Saviour Horus could be an adaptation of jesus by the egyptians or christian missionaries but you dummies are too busy doing fistpumps to even notice things like this.
Although I'm quite certain the story about Horus being born of a virgin along with the other factors that tie his life to Jesus comes from evidence that is proved to exist long before the bible. The truth of the matter is that the connection is actually shared among a large set of dieties among varying religions and cultures throughout history. The source of which can all be tied to astrological phoenomena that happen during the equinoxes. (which explains the positions both Christmas and Easter hold on the calendar)
You are quite certain?? I'm amazed, this must have been quite the deduction given how little effort the site put into backing up their claims! oh, but it's the truth of the matter. get real.
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hahaha are you joking or not?
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:fogetcool:"hey, hey you." "yeah you."
:fogetcool:"guess what?"
:fogetcool:"I gotta really big dick"
:fogetshifty: "orly?"
:fogetcool: "fo sho"
:fogetshifty:"nop. mines bigger"
:fogetcool: "oh yeah?
:fogetcool: "nah mines huge"
:fogetshifty: "still bigger"
alls I'm trying to say is show us your dicks and stop talking bullshit
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that is possibly the gayest analogy I've ever made in my life I'm pretty sure and I'm proud of that one.
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I think you've been at sea too long Coxswain
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To those that asked about the bible being historical fact. As far as I've read, we have no proof whatsoever that the jews would have been in Egypt and then escaped. Plus the bible was rewritten so many times so it becomes kinda just... useless I find. It's full of contradictions etc.
To those arguing about Horus, I'm pretty sure Jesus' existence is historical fact because we would have found enough evidence such as roman scripture about births etc to prove it. Now, yes the guy existed but it's still possible they just made a story around him or whatever. Plus A LOT of deities share very close similarities. Christianity especially since they would just adapt a thousand things from other religions. Jesus is born at Christmas? WRONG Christmas comes from Yule etc...
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hahaha, I'm pretty sure Xanqui did the same thing before he edited his post. you know the egyptians, they were still around 2000 years ago. the rulers of Egypt during Jesus's time, the Romans and before that the Ptolemies, accepted the Egyptian religion. and since Egypt didn't become an arabic state until 636 AD, the Saviour Horus could be an adaptation of jesus by the egyptians or christian missionaries but you dummies are too busy doing fistpumps to even notice things like this.
I edited my post from just "holy shit" to adding the second part, because I thought I should elaborate. Horus was around since BEFORE the major empire of Egypt existed. He came in during the late pre-dynastic period, which was a fuck long time before jesus. Christian arrogance tends to make people ignore other religions or make them think that their beliefs inspired things that existed long before christianity. Hell, the creationists are so far up their own asses that they think the world is only 6,000 years old.
To those arguing about Horus, I'm pretty sure Jesus' existence is historical fact because we would have found enough evidence such as roman scripture about births etc to prove it. Now, yes the guy existed but it's still possible they just made a story around him or whatever. Plus A LOT of deities share very close similarities. Christianity especially since they would just adapt a thousand things from other religions. Jesus is born at Christmas? WRONG Christmas comes from Yule etc...
None of that evidence has been found though. If it has, please let me know. I've looked for websites and books about this evidence, but I've never found any. If you're just saying "well they must have been found," then you're basing your argument on evidence that you yourself don't know whether it exists or not.
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Xanqui, I'm actually pretty sure we do have that evidence although I might be mistaken. If I remember correctly from one of my history classes and a religion class I've had, we have that evidence.
EDIT: I'll check when I have time, right now I'm studying music theory so... hahaha. However, if you say that you weren't able to find anything reliable, I trust ya dude.
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You are quite certain?? I'm amazed, this must have been quite the deduction given how little effort the site put into backing up their claims! oh, but it's the truth of the matter. get real.
Yeah, I'm too lazy to back up my claims. Quite frankly, the truth of the matter is that I don't care what anyone reading that thinks or believes. Really I have no idea what I'm doing in this topic or why I bothered posting. (I actually had to come back here to remember whether or not I had actually posted that in the first place. I was saddened to realise I actually had posted in this instance, since a lot of the time I'll write up a reply and read over it just to realize I have no desire or reason to post in the first place.)
Regardless of that, I still have no interest in showing I'm right, or giving any reason or source to what I claim, so posting in this topic was indeed a mistake, and that much I can easily acknowledge. If you care that much about me bering wrong, you can do the research to disprove what I claim, I'd suggest that you simply disregard what I say and don't put too much energy into worrying about it.
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Why does it matter even the slightest if a guy named Jesus existed? Of course there were millions of Jesuses but if it's not the messiah it's hardly worth having evidence for, right?
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Xanqui, I'm actually pretty sure we do have that evidence although I might be mistaken. If I remember correctly from one of my history classes and a religion class I've had, we have that evidence.
EDIT: I'll check when I have time, right now I'm studying music theory so... hahaha. However, if you say that you weren't able to find anything reliable, I trust ya dude.
if you can find it, I am interested in hearing about.
The problem is, every time I hear this claim, the evidence is dated decades after the supposed existence of jesus. Considering the execution of jesus was a pretty big deal according to the bible, and you know, the big freaking earthquake afterward, there would have to be something outside of the bible dated around that time.
Personally, I lost faith in god because I kept looking for some shred of evidence, but I couldn't find any. I read articles on every side of the fence, but it all came down to faith. Faith is the belief in something without any evidence, so if I was going to believe in god, I might as well believe in every other claim that has nothing to back it up. I never saw what made the bible more believable than, say, The Iliad or the Lord of the Rings.
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the thing is the first gospel was only written some 20-30 years after jesus was crucified. people seem to forget that there were PEOPLE around. he had thousands of followers according to the bible at least and there's plenty of evidence for CHRISTIANS at that time (nero). jesus' existence wouldn't have been questioned only 30 years after, it's pretty weird to question if at least a jesus FIGURE existed for this reason.
i brought this up with one of my lecturers when he criticised the census story of jesus (why would you need to return to your place of birth for a census??), that if something huge like that didn't happen then why would anyone believe it 60 years later, and he looked a little astonished and said 'that's a very interesting point' and i was pretty chuffed. the bible isn't evidence of god but as far as a lot of stuff goes it'd be fairly ridiculous for so many people to use a book that says stuff that patently doesn't happen at that time, AT THAT TIME.
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the thing is the first gospel was only written some 20-30 years after jesus was crucified. people seem to forget that there were PEOPLE around. he had thousands of followers according to the bible at least and there's plenty of evidence for CHRISTIANS at that time (nero). jesus' existence wouldn't have been questioned only 30 years after, it's pretty weird to question if at least a jesus FIGURE existed for this reason.
i brought this up with one of my lecturers when he criticised the census story of jesus (why would you need to return to your place of birth for a census??), that if something huge like that didn't happen then why would anyone believe it 60 years later, and he looked a little astonished and said 'that's a very interesting point' and i was pretty chuffed. the bible isn't evidence of god but as far as a lot of stuff goes it'd be fairly ridiculous for so many people to use a book that says stuff that patently doesn't happen at that time, AT THAT TIME.
you can start a religion based on false facts. Look at scientology.
Sixty years later is a pretty long time, especially back then. The average person didn't live more than 30 years, so that's at least two generations. Without anyone to verify jesus's existence, and people more than willing to believe whatever their priests told them, it wouldn't be that hard to get people to believe in a guy who never existed.
Still though, it's all dated decades later. You would think that if such a GREAT guy existed, and he had THOUSANDS of followers, that some texts from around that time would have been written. And all of this is, as you put it, according to the bible. The bible is not a verifiable source without others to back it up. Considering all of the other ridiculous stories in it, such as a talking bush, a guy who loses all of his magical powers when his hair gets cut, and the entire genesis portion, it's perfectly reasonable for anyone to question the validity of the story of Jesus.
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L RON HUBBARD NEVER EXISTED
christians weren't liked at all, read the bible: jesus was a bit of a dick to the pharisees, hence crucifixion.
people lived far longer than 30 years it was the middle east not dark ages england. jesus was around 33 when crucified and his mother was still around. furthermore peter set up the first churches and acts of the apostles talks about the apostles and the rest of jesus' disciples kickin it A.D. too
if you take this path you kinda have to question the reality of anyone or any event prior to idk VIDEO, and even then you've got moonlanding skeptics.
there aren't all that many texts from around that time, the 'bible' is some 66 books, the gospels provide four different accounts. parts seem contradictory but so do writings on other historic figures.
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Guys-- where in the bible does it say bestiality is a sin?
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climbtree you said you were majoring in christian theology right? what do you plan on doing with that degree?
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arguing on internet forums
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OH
BURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN
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arguing on internet forums
lol
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climbtree you said you were majoring in christian theology right? what do you plan on doing with that degree?
i never said that at all, theology is specifically christian stuff, i majored in religious studies which is a pretty broad pretty poor overview of all religion.
why does everyone forget i also did psychology and psychology was the main thing??? i'm currently doing a masters degree in psychology but that's subject to change
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Heh.. you're the psychology student, you tell us why we forgot
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theology fits better with your schema of climbtree especially when i'm in a topic about religion
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the bible says the world is flat. the bible says pi equals exactly three. the bible says unicorns exist/did exist. the writer of the bible didn't seem to mind that moses had his troops rape captured women. the bible says you should stone homosexuals. the bible says that a guy in the sky murdered thousands upon thousands of people while the guy in hell only killed a few, yet the guy in the sky is considered the good one.
I know you don't agree with a lot of those things, and neither do most sane, intelligent people. You are picking and choosing because you don't go around stoning homosexuals, and you don't believe the world is flat. And if you do those things, I don't care how righteous your god says it is, you're a piece of shit.
There is a profound truth in nearly every piece of literature ever written. If you spend enough time analyzing and interpreting, any book can give you really good advice. But at the same time, there's a lot of shit that has to be waded through.
do you get your opinions from Penn & Teller: Bullshit?
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I mean I'm an atheist and everything but you clearly just don't get it.
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I mean I'm an atheist and everything but you clearly just don't get it.
I completely agree.
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The bible is the only real evidence anyone has to proof god exists and that’s just not enough for me, books can be re-written, edited far too easily.
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God? Feh, I choose science.
I'm a atheist
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Have you seen the movie zeitgeist? Heh, prepare to have ur mind blown...
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Guys I recommend a book called "The God Delusion" by a guy named Richard Dawkins. Anyone ever heard of him?
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maybe humanity is just one big ironic post... god's ultimate jone...
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God trolled Job so friggin hard.
Moral of the story: I'm god, I will do whatever the fuck I want.
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I can't tell who is being serious and who isn't...
Well done, chaps. :bravo:
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Yo abraham, dogg I need you to ice that son of yours.
Aw dude, you were seriously gonna do it? I was just joshin. That shits cold brah, damn son you savage as a motherfucker. My nigga.
Hey man since you're up on this mountain, do me a solid kill your goat for me.
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guys, I'm just a lame atheist that posted ironically as a christian.
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The bible owns
Fuck the haters
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GOD SUCKS POSTT HIS FIVE TIMES IF YOU THINK DOGS SUCK
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everybody knows that the devil is really stuck in hell because god told him he left some furniture down there that needed retrieving.
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theology fits better with your schema of climbtree especially when i'm in a topic about religion
Wo..wow. I guess I'll have to consider your antics social experiments now rather than "trolls"
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i'm doing critical psychology, we don't pull those kinda stunts.
The bible is the only real evidence anyone has to proof god exists and that’s just not enough for me, books can be re-written, edited far too easily.
the bible isn't proof god exists anymore than a physics book is proof physics exist
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the bible isn't proof god exists anymore than a physics book is proof physics exist
lol
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In terms of my religious views, I have come to the conclusion that while an all-powerful God may or may not exist, Christianity is almost certainly false. And while it may seem that I have come to this conclusion bluntly, I can assure you that my stance came as a result of considerable thought. I will not attempt to reason for it, for that will not convince anyone. Instead, I will hold it to be self-evident outside of poor judgment, a psychological imperative, and superstition. I already waste enough time on the Internet as it is without condemning my sunshine time to pointless arguments on subjects with people with three times more indoctrination than processed thought.
I know, I know. My opining is just as stubborn as it is of those whom I condemn. But I'm tired of it. You would have to be an idiot to believe that the theory of evolution is false. You would have to be an even bigger idiot to decry natural selection. But that is what Christianity entails, and so shall be its end in my mind. Hermeneutics, bollocks. If you believe that dinosaurs existed alongside humankind, you are either foolish, ignorant, or Judeo-Christian*. And if you don't, but consider yourself the latter, then you have compromised your religion in the face of the opposition. I'm honestly not sure whom I respect less.
So this is the end of it. I'm not going to spend any more time researching, in the words of Richard Dawkins: "learned tomes on ruffled pantaloons and silken underwear" just so that I can claim that the Emperor is, in fact, naked. I'm tired of this shit and I am leaving these idiots to the own devices.
*Terms that are by no means mutually exclusive.
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nah I still tell the idiots they're idiots and hope that one in a hundred will get it and it'll sink in a lil' bit. Can't give up that hope because that hope is all you've got or I've got or we've got or anyones got that doesn't believe in some stupid book full of tall tales.
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We should all watch Religulous (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0815241/) again/for the first time. It gives a few insights into various religions around the world and also adds some comical humor amongst it all.
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that bill maher. so smug. fuck you, bill maher.
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YOU THINK YOU CAN WRITE ME OFF IN A 2-HOUR FILM LIKE THAT?? WHAT.
WHAT.
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WHERE IS YHOUR NO GOD NOW BILLMARH
HUH
WHRE IS IT? ITS NOT HERE YUO BATSArD
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Maybe I'll get another warn?
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Maybe I'll get another warn?
"I guess it's time for you to hate me again" ~ Doppleganger on his new album, relapse
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Nah, it's more like
"Warns are arbitrarily given out to members who don't consistently inundate the boards with garbage posts" ~ what?!
Good call tho...
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Are you sure both of those lines aren't from your new album?
Either way, I don't see how you could think that post could warrant a possible warn. I mean it clearly shows how superior it is to have faith and utilize prayer in your daily life.
It just has so many things going for it that fit in perfectly with the lifestyle we have become accustomed to.