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Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Boulvae on June 18, 2009, 02:31:12 am
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92681?fp=1


Man what is this, guy blew a kiss to his mother and he was refused his diploma.

Schools always trying to siphon the fun out of everything.

Thoughts?
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 18, 2009, 02:36:22 am
i hate it when people complain over stuff like this. 'walk across the stage, take the diploma, shake a hand, walk off. anything extra and you won't get your diploma'

it doesn't matter if you do a fist pump or take your dick out and breakdance. it ticks me off when they have rules like that but they don't enforce them, at my BA graduation there was a dude in shorts and sandals and they still let him participate, even though they clearly said they would refuse anyone in inappropriate dress.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Barack Obama on June 18, 2009, 02:36:51 am
naw i dont care
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Barack Obama on June 18, 2009, 02:37:24 am
he'll probably get his diploma mailed to him
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Barack Obama on June 18, 2009, 02:37:56 am
that'll be the story he tells drunk girls at his frat party before he rapes them
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: xanque on June 18, 2009, 02:41:42 am
i hate it when people complain over stuff like this. 'walk across the stage, take the diploma, shake a hand, walk off. anything extra and you won't get your diploma'

it doesn't matter if you do a fist pump or take your dick out and breakdance. it ticks me off when they have rules like that but they don't enforce them, at my BA graduation there was a dude in shorts and sandals and they still let him participate, even though they clearly said they would refuse anyone in inappropriate dress.
I was going to write a response to this, but I am convinced you are just trolling, so fuck it.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Eltee on June 18, 2009, 03:26:30 am
dude hahahaha this bullshit is awful

man, some people were screaming/dancing when they walked on stage

and the whole school did a standing ovation for a girl who was returning to Brazil after graduating and she cried

oh no the whole school showed emotion, NO DIPLOMA FOR ALL OF YOU
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Rye Bread on June 18, 2009, 03:45:57 am
i hate it when people complain over stuff like this. 'walk across the stage, take the diploma, shake a hand, walk off. anything extra and you won't get your diploma'

it doesn't matter if you do a fist pump or take your dick out and breakdance. it ticks me off when they have rules like that but they don't enforce them, at my BA graduation there was a dude in shorts and sandals and they still let him participate, even though they clearly said they would refuse anyone in inappropriate dress.

I wore shorts and sandals to my graduation :(
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: xanque on June 18, 2009, 03:48:51 am
I wore shorts and sandals to my graduation :(
I wore a shirt that said "Meh" on it, and pulled open my robe for all to see. 

(http://pub.gamingw.net/26439/211bf94.jpg)
I'm really proud of that picture.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: DDay on June 18, 2009, 03:54:30 am
If your not use to an Audience then it's only natural that mistakes would happen especially when you got 100+ on stage or on a field and this was obviously not intentional. The only one that is misbehaving is the administrators.

I say somebody should strip away his diploma.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 18, 2009, 04:02:33 am
I wore shorts and sandals to my graduation :(

this was at university, and it said really really clearly DRESS NICELY OR YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED IN THE CEREMONY where nicely was described as dress pants, shirt and tie for men and a formal dress for women.

who blows a kiss to their family? unless this guy is mentally disabled he was purposefully being a dick.

like honestly complain about the rules FIRST, you can't agree to the consequences and then challenge them once you break the rules, that's dumb.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Cray on June 18, 2009, 06:22:40 am
Yeah, people who blow kisses to their family are complete dickheads and deserve to get their diploma denied. How do people DARE to show emotion at such an event?!
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Sludgelord on June 18, 2009, 07:00:52 am
don't be
too easy  :fogetnah:
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Ryan on June 18, 2009, 07:02:29 am
Meh
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 07:57:34 am
If your not use to an Audience then it's only natural that mistakes would happen epically when you got 100+ on stage or on a field and this was obviously not intentional. The only one that is misbehaving is the administrators.

I say somebody should strip away his diploma.

dday stop using the word "epic" you're better than that.

also fuck the kid but fuck the administrator more. I graduated, didn't do shit and still haven't gotten my diploma but because I never bothered going and getting it.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 07:59:22 am
actually I was pissed off that whole night because I thought it was incredibly stupid that I had to dress up and memorize all of this incredibly stupid bullshit for highschool when I was supposed to be done with it already and not fucking with that dumb shit anymore.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 18, 2009, 08:15:29 am
Yeah, people who blow kisses to their family are complete dickheads and deserve to get their diploma denied. How do people DARE to show emotion at such an event?!

no he deserved to get his diploma denied because those are the consequences for breaking the rules, he broke the rules because he was a dickhead.

this is really simple, if i said DON'T DO A BACKFLIP OR I'LL CUT OFF YOUR HANDS that would be a ridiculous rule but if you said OK DEAL and did a backflip you really can't complain when i CUT YOUR HANDS OFF.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 08:22:26 am
yes you can. because you were an unreasonable asshole that felt you needed to cut someones hands off for being stupid which makes you even stupider.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 18, 2009, 08:53:37 am
yes you can. because you were an unreasonable asshole that felt you needed to cut someones hands off for being stupid which makes you even stupider.

yeah the rule is really really dumb which is why if you have an issue with it you don't agree and then break it. if someone offered you $10,000 to shit your pants and you agreed and did the dirty work it's completely unreasonable for him to say "well actually $10,000 is way too much here's $20 instead."

this is pretty simple stuff, PUT HAND IN TOASTER>GET SHOCK, SLEEP ON JOB>GET FIRED, GOOF OFF AT GRADUATION>YOU DON'T GRADUATE

this isn't unfair this is some xanqui being a dick who tried to call their bluff. the rules were really clear i don't get how this is unfair at all, in a situation where you loose your hands if you do a backflip YOU DO NOT DO A BACKFLIP
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Ryan on June 18, 2009, 01:46:03 pm
Speak for yourself
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Seawed on June 18, 2009, 01:56:18 pm
I don't even get why what he did was so stupid and unacceptable, but ok!
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2009, 02:01:31 pm
I don't even get why what he did was so stupid and unacceptable, but ok!

It was stupid and unacceptable to break the rules knowing what they are and that it would cost him his diploma.  It's not about the BLOWING KISSES part, it's about the "i knew better and still did it" part.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 02:19:06 pm
if I knew that blowing kisses was gonna make me not be able to go to graduation then I would have done it in a heartbeat.

He's still going to be able to pick up his diploma on his own right? Or did they just deny him four years of an education for something so ridiculously stupid?
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Seawed on June 18, 2009, 02:23:46 pm
It was stupid and unacceptable to break the rules knowing what they are and that it would cost him his diploma.  It's not about the BLOWING KISSES part, it's about the "i knew better and still did it" part.

No, what I don't get is why BLOWING KISSES would be against their rules. I would understand if he was breakdancing or backflipping on stage but Jesus Christ he just blew a kiss. Some teachers can be so anal about nothing sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the need for a code of conduct, and I've seen some shitty behaviour at graduations before.

But who knows, I'm just judging this off some lines in the story, chances are there is more to it.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: kentona on June 18, 2009, 02:59:08 pm
Did anyone else think of Gene Simmons or Rock and Roll All Nite upon reading the title of this thread?
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Rye Bread on June 18, 2009, 03:01:16 pm
this was at university, and it said really really clearly DRESS NICELY OR YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED IN THE CEREMONY where nicely was described as dress pants, shirt and tie for men and a formal dress for women.

who blows a kiss to their family? unless this guy is mentally disabled he was purposefully being a dick.

like honestly complain about the rules FIRST, you can't agree to the consequences and then challenge them once you break the rules, that's dumb.

Yeah I meant I wore that at university graduation, not hs.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: jamie on June 18, 2009, 03:22:04 pm
I remember I got something like this. My attendance during the last year of high school was a little shaky, i think like 85%, and I wasn't allowed to go to the prom equivalent and that sucked because apparently it was great and wild and all of that. I'd like to run into the woman who wouldn't let me, Mrs. Watson, one day in a cafe or something and just drop a big booger in her cappucino.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2009, 03:45:06 pm
No, what I don't get is why BLOWING KISSES would be against their rules. I would understand if he was breakdancing or backflipping on stage but Jesus Christ he just blew a kiss. Some teachers can be so anal about nothing sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the need for a code of conduct, and I've seen some shitty behaviour at graduations before.

But who knows, I'm just judging this off some lines in the story, chances are there is more to it.

because kids think of so many dumb things to do that you can't prohibit certain things, you absolutely HAVE to say "don't do ANYTHING AT ALL when you're up there"
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Boulvae on June 18, 2009, 04:46:18 pm
Guys, guys, he wasn't allowed his diploma. He still graduated he was just refused the piece of paper at the event infront of thousands of people.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Rajew on June 18, 2009, 05:00:50 pm
Man, I got kicked out of my (high) school ~5 weeks before graduation, but they told me I could still walk at graduation as long as NO FUNNY BUSINESS went on. I went there, following all of their rules, being on perfect behavior, and was like "woo, I did it!" as I walked up to get my diploma.
BUT, my peers were not having any of that shit and decided to start chanting my name, and the principal looked at me very sternly and hesitated for a moment before he gave me my diploma. I...I almost didn't get it...

But yea, that is kind of a ridiculous rule. I mean, my high school's graduation has always had beach balls bouncing around, people cheering, doing backflips and stuff (yes people actually have backflipped before). They've always stated that stuff was against the rules but they never did anything about it. That high school is kind of just dickish.
I do understand where Climbtree is coming from, they DID agree to the rules beforehand, so it's their fault for breaking them. Also no dude should be blowing kisses to his family. He was breaking the rules on purpose to be a silly guy. He's not going to use that diploma for anything anyways
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Cray on June 18, 2009, 05:27:02 pm
If he still got his diploma, but just was denied of it in teh ceremony itself, then I see nor problem, I thought he actually got denied of it like no diploma at ALL.
and some of youi guys are a little anal about rules, we also had some rules for our prom, but nobody cared if we said hi to our families, or ran to the stage instead of walking or went up the stage without our jacket, or some stuff like that. Rules are mostly never 100% folowed, the problem is how much the people who set it should tolerate.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Dale Gobbler on June 18, 2009, 06:22:41 pm
I don't think he got in trouble for blowing a kiss. Did you see the video of him? He pulled out fake Honour Student cords around his neck that he had hidden under his gown up until that time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJQaa5OqdVQ&feature=related

Around 3:36 he pulls out Honour Student cords, the reporter says that it was a special necklace. Notice the people sitting behind him with the same cords on.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Standard Toaster on June 18, 2009, 06:28:22 pm
dude they said he got it from winning a track meet or something in the video
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Post by: jamie on June 18, 2009, 08:40:30 pm
Is this actually a thing? Graduation ceremonies being really strict? We don't have them in UK high schools and if we had I probably wouldn't have went but who gives a shit? It seems so obviously a ridiculous thing to be strict about I can't really believe it's a common thing. I can understand a couple of crazy principals getting all wild over it but is it common place to have a diploma snatched out your hand? I mean it's not as if it's the best soup place in New York City, it's just a graduation ceremony.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: xanque on June 18, 2009, 08:50:57 pm
Is this actually a thing? Graduation ceremonies being really strict? We don't have them in UK high schools and if we had I probably wouldn't have went but who gives a shit? It seems so obviously a ridiculous thing to be strict about I can't really believe it's a common thing. I can understand a couple of crazy principals getting all wild over it but is it common place to have a diploma snatched out your hand? I mean it's not as if it's the best soup place in New York City, it's just a graduation ceremony.
They make the rules to keep things from getting out of hand, which is perfectly understandable.  But in this case, the rules got out of hand because there was no reason to punish a student for acknowledging his family in a polite manner. 

I keep hearing the argument "THIS IS WHAT THE STUDENTS AGREED TO" but we don't know what exactly was in the 'contract.'  If it was something like "don't act up" then it depends on what the administrators perceive as "acting up," in which case this entire thing would be bullshit because blowing a kiss to your family is pretty much never considered that. 

But even if the agreement specifically stated something like that, withholding the diploma couldn't be worth it for the administration having to deal with this controversy. 

For those of you who seem to absolutely hate this kid, and take the side of the authority, would it make a difference to you if he was denied his diploma completely?  Or do you think that this INSANELY HORRIBLE TOMFOOLERY of blowing a kiss would be enough to rid him of four years of hard work completely? 

If you're just arguing that he should have been punished by having his diploma withheld until afterward, I can kind of see your point, but I think this was a pretty clear case of overreaction.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 18, 2009, 11:01:28 pm
I don't think he got in trouble for blowing a kiss. Did you see the video of him? He pulled out fake Honour Student cords around his neck that he had hidden under his gown up until that time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJQaa5OqdVQ&feature=related

Around 3:36 he pulls out Honour Student cords, the reporter says that it was a special necklace. Notice the people sitting behind him with the same cords on.

ahaha this video is so great
it was embarassing! he was humiliated! this is a once in a lifetime event and it was stolen from him! he stole his once in a lifetime dream of graduating with pride and honor
that's why the rules are there, to keep the ceremony prestigous. how proud a moment would it have been if there were beach balls all over the place and everyone was dressed casually? the father doesn't seem to understand that his son was stealing that moment from his 399 classmates. 
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Post by: Kaempfer on June 19, 2009, 01:36:13 am
Have you guys ever met highschool students? I live near a highschool. They are all douchebags, as far as I can tell. I know I was in high school! This guy looks like a douchebag. Doesn't he remind anyone of those Gotti kids, only without the hair? This entire ceremony was a joke to him until the moment the superintendent stepped in. Fuck this kid.

Seriously, how is anyone able to sympathize with this guy? There is literally no chance this guy has never done something that deserved punishment and got away with it. Can you imagine how awful it must be for the teachers and administration to have to deal with that many awful little bastards all day? Cripes.


fuck da system though right guys
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 19, 2009, 01:50:15 am
I wore a shirt that said "Meh" on it, and pulled open my robe for all to see. 

(http://pub.gamingw.net/26439/211bf94.jpg)
I'm really proud of that picture.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 19, 2009, 08:57:33 am
no the kid is stupid I don't think anyone is denying that but the teacher is even stupider for acting like a fucking kid.

how hard is that to see?
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on June 19, 2009, 10:56:12 am
by enforcing the rules? here's an example you may be more familiar with:
"you do that one more time i'm gonna sock you in the jaw"
*dude does it anyway*
hitting him may be an over-reaction and that was the point, he called your bluff. is it childish to hit him?
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 19, 2009, 12:03:19 pm
see there's part of me that goes "yeah that is an overreaction" but fuck high schoolers do too much shit when they're graduating, and the only thing you can do about it is NOT TOLERATE ANYTHING AT ALL

if you say "do not do anything at all except walk up and take your diploma" and they do something else, you have to call them out on it, because otherwise students don't think you're serious about this shit and will be releasing thousands of crickets in the building like it's such a cool idea

if you put yourself in the situation of the people in charge here, that's really what they have to do to keep order, i think the problem is pretty much everyone here is closer to the student's situation than the staff and so they can't see how the staff has to react to this
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 19, 2009, 04:36:19 pm
by enforcing the rules? here's an example you may be more familiar with:
"you do that one more time i'm gonna sock you in the jaw"
*dude does it anyway*
hitting him may be an over-reaction and that was the point, he called your bluff. is it childish to hit him?

yeah except its a fucking teacher
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Kaempfer on June 19, 2009, 05:32:15 pm
yeah except its a fucking teacher

This is exactly the problem, man! A lot of kids just think whatever teachers say is true but you shouldn't respect their authority over you when the exact opposite is true. Teachers are wrong SO OFTEN it hurts but really they're just there to watch you for a couple hours each day so you're not burning down the city like restless teens are wont to do. Teachers are pretty much just mini authority figures and it doesn't take much to not break their rules. Some teachers are assholes, but oh well.

Plus this was the superintendent so as far as the school system goes you can't get much higher (if higher at all). If anyone had the authority to take away this kid's diploma it was her. In fact, she could take it away for good if she decided to!

If a teacher says "Stop fooling around in class or I'm going to FAIL YOU" and never fails anyone that is pretty much a guarantee that snot-nosed highschoolers are going to fool around as much as possible just because their brains are telling them to rebel as much as possible. Fail a couple kids and they'll snap in line! They'll grumble about it and post on Facebook about how much they hate their teachers but oh well.

Don't beat that guy to death
Oh you did it
You rascally scamp

(has everyone forgotten that thread already? High school kids are AWFUL)
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 19, 2009, 06:45:42 pm
but the point I was trying to make is yeah, the kid is a stupid kid, he's a prick a douche but at the same time its fucking graduation. You can't go tell a bunch of excited, stupid, kids on graduation they can't act out or do anything because like you said, they'll do exactly that.

And you got these supposed paid "adults" trained  to deal with these kids they get all anal and start freaking out "HE BROKE THE RULES HE BROKE THE RULES GET HIM" over something incredibly lame that did no harm to anyone she made a terrible judgment call and acted like the same stupid little kids that she were supposed to be dealing with in the first place.

To me this is almost like those snide teachers that let out racial slurs when they get mad at some dipshit kids in class and try to cover for it with "th-th- BUT THEY WERE ASSHOLES" or teachers that go out of their way to tack disciplinary actions and basically harass little punk kids that they know are little punk kids but aren't necessarily acting like punks when these teachers chase their tails around like some stupid asshole with a grudge....over....a...dumb....kid.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 19, 2009, 06:52:21 pm
but the point I was trying to make is yeah, the kid is a stupid kid, he's a prick a douche but at the same time its fucking graduation. You can't go tell a bunch of excited, stupid, kids on graduation they can't act out or do anything because like you said, they'll do exactly that.

and then they don't get their diploma, and then maybe a few less kids will act out next year because of it


whereas if they DON'T get him for it a few MORE kids will act out next year
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 19, 2009, 06:57:05 pm
no because none of them will probably remember it or care about it in a year.

I like the way they did it at my school. Our resource officer was a total asshole and had a reputation for being a total piece of shit. So what they did was sit us all in the auditiorium and basically said, "YEAH YOU'RE GRADUATING, GRATS. NOW DON'T DO ANYTHING TOO FUCKING STUPID OR MR.OFFICER HERE WILL HAVE YOUR ASS ESCORTED OFF THE PREMISES!"

and I do not remember anything like this happening at all because they all knew that guy was a dick and if given the chance he'd fuck with some kids hard just to feel good about himself. A few people tried to be funny but nothing too bad.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: jamie on June 19, 2009, 07:26:49 pm
You are all nuts. I don't get this at all.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: bonzi_buddy on June 19, 2009, 07:36:03 pm
Abstain. Aaaaaaaabstain!!!! *blows whistle furiously, red faced*  i refuse to understand, abstain!!
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Rajew on June 20, 2009, 12:08:43 am
no because none of them will probably remember it or care about it in a year.

I like the way they did it at my school. Our resource officer was a total asshole and had a reputation for being a total piece of shit. So what they did was sit us all in the auditiorium and basically said, "YEAH YOU'RE GRADUATING, GRATS. NOW DON'T DO ANYTHING TOO FUCKING STUPID OR MR.OFFICER HERE WILL HAVE YOUR ASS ESCORTED OFF THE PREMISES!"

and I do not remember anything like this happening at all because they all knew that guy was a dick and if given the chance he'd fuck with some kids hard just to feel good about himself. A few people tried to be funny but nothing too bad.

This is what Velfarre is saying. You have to establish that you're a "fucking dick" about these kinds of ceremonies for people to know that you're a "fucking dick" and are being serious when they say you're gonna get in trouble for being a douchebag!
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 20, 2009, 12:13:28 am
This is what Velfarre is saying. You have to establish that you're a "fucking dick" about these kinds of ceremonies for people to know that you're a "fucking dick" and are being serious when they say you're gonna get in trouble for being a douchebag!

This is exactly what I'm saying.
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Farren on June 20, 2009, 04:09:53 am
yeah but you don't wait until the graduation to do it and fuck the whole thing up and get that shit plastered on the news.

I guess I was just lucky enough to have a fucking dick rentacop
Title: Kiss Costs Student Diploma
Post by: Vellfire on June 20, 2009, 01:20:44 pm
well he kind of had to wait until graduation because this event HAPPENED at graduation, he couldn't be a dick about this kid any earlier

for all we know he probably wouldn't let other kids walk before the graduation too, there's usually a handful missing at every graduation because of this, this kid just made the news because of specifically what he did and that it happened at the event itself

it's kind of dumb that this is in the news in the first place, kids get denied graduation every year