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Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on June 18, 2009, 05:46:59 am
heh didnt make topic for fear of a blank planet but... i think gw might be ready for another pt topic. :fogetnaughty:

PORCUPINE TREE - THE INCIDENT

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/l61e8dd13dc3542a784ed28.jpeg)

DISC 1:
1. Occam's Razor 1:55
2. The Blind House 5:47
3. Great Expectations 1:26
4. Kneel and Disconnect 2:03
5. Drawing the Line 4:43
6. The Incident 5:20
7. Your Unpleasant Family 1:48
8. The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train 2:00
9. Time Flies 11:40
10. Degree Zero of Liberty 1:45
11. Octane Twisted 5:03
12. The Séance 2:39
13. Circle of Manias 2:18
14. I Drive the Hearse 6:41

DISC 2: (not sure about order, no info on track lengths)
1. Flicker
2. Bonnie The Cat
3. Black Dahlia
4. Remember Me Lover

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The Incident
06-12-2009

Porcupine Tree are happy to announce the forthcoming release of their tenth studio album "The Incident". The record is set to be released via Roadrunner Records worldwide on 21st September, as a double CD.

The centre-piece is the title track, which takes up the whole of the first disc. The 55-minute work is described as “a slightly surreal song cycle about beginnings and endings and the sense that ‘after this, things will never be the same again’.”

The self-produced album is completed by four standalone compositions that developed out of band writing sessions last December - Flicker, Bonnie The Cat, Black Dahlia, and Remember Me Lover feature on a separate EP length disc to stress their independence from the song cycle.

Video footage of the band in the studio working on The Incident, as well as audio previews, will be available online soon. The band will tour extensively to promote the album from mid September onwards.



First studio footage: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/video/view.aspx?songID=2503

Anyway, I'm really excited for this but if that surprises anyone, you haven't been on GW for long enough. And another surprise, seems like it's gonna be another pretty dark concept and sounds like it might their darkest album yet, and definitely the most experimental. The whole structure of the album is new to PT as well so that's cool, and of course I'm really glad that it's going to be a double album as it was rumoured. That noisy bit with Richard sounds so fucking cool and the piano is pretty reminiscent of Insurgentes which is fine by me as I loved it. Seems like it's gonna be a mixed bag of lots of different things and it definitely doesn't sound like it's going to be very similar to FOABP which is a good thing, even though it's my favorite PT album. I especially like the sound of The Incident (the track) as Sleep Together is one of my favorite songs and I was hoping PT would do more shit like that, and heavy electronica funk sounds good to me.

but yeah............. hopefully they'll post audio clips on myspace soon.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 07:38:31 am
imo insurgentes sucked and fear of a blank planet was ok

Pt is getting progressively pretentious as shit and shitting on the main audience they've got. Internet nerds that steal their music. I hope this album is worth a shit but I've got the feeling that its not going to be and they've run their course.

I know I sound like a dick but really they've tapered off imo and are doing nothing new and exciting

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[a slightly surreal song cycle about beginnings and endings and the sense that ‘after this, things will never be the same again’.”


yeah, I might be a lil' drunk but what does this sound like other than pretentious and vague as fuck?
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on June 18, 2009, 11:55:13 am
i might understand your argument if there was a time pt wasn't pretentious and vague as fuck but dude, it has never been the case. pt's music has always been like that, and AT LEAST borderline pretentious. foabp is the only album which actually makes a somewhat clear statement.

also you have a wrong idea. it doesn't matter if they shit on their audience or not. they don't create their music for you, they create it for themselves. if you like it then that's cool but don't get the wrong idea. they shouldn't be thinking about what listeners want when they are making music.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 18, 2009, 12:25:54 pm
I thought insurgentes was awesome. I hope that this new album is in similar style to their latest 2 as it would be lame if they regressed back to the cheesy prog they once were.

FOABP flowed together really well. It was really well made and I listened to it 100s of times. I hope the new one is as good.

Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on June 18, 2009, 03:43:41 pm
porcupine tree once again sets the bar high for great album art work
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Cheshire Cat on June 18, 2009, 04:06:05 pm
Is three forward slashes Porcupine Trees new thing or something?

My interest in them, like many, has kind of petered off. They're a great band but, and maybe this is over lisening or just maturing, they don't seem as brilliant as they once did. Not in a 'their new releases arent up to scratch' way, but simply in the sense of their music not leaping out at me any more.

Also Steven Wilson is really pretentious, with his whole stupid Ipod vendetta, and perhaps a dick?

Still, we shall see what they can manage.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Farren on June 18, 2009, 07:26:21 pm
HEY KIDS GO OUTSIDE GRAMP WANTS YOU TO GO OUTSIDE AND STOP LISTENING TO MY MUSIC YOU FUCKIN LOSERS
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Puppet Master on June 18, 2009, 09:37:42 pm
That album cover looks like something they made in 2 minutes on msPaint. The picture doesn't even look centered (may just be because the 3 red bars ruin it's symmetry.)
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: last life on June 19, 2009, 08:39:04 pm
"The Incident"

How do they not realize how fucking stupid that sounds?

Also I guess it shouldn't be surprising but the track list sounds like the track list for a Dream Theater album.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Ryan on June 19, 2009, 08:43:01 pm
This doesn't look very good! I haven't listened to it but I don't really like LONG EPIC PROG MASTERPIECES!!! too much and i've never really been a huge fan of PT to begin with.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 19, 2009, 08:53:56 pm
I have not heard any of these songs so I am gonna make an opinion and be non-conformist to all you non conformist fucks!
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: dark_crystalis on June 19, 2009, 08:55:04 pm
I really loved Deadwing but found Fear of a Blank Planet meh. Wilson's solo album was good but not that good. I'm curious to see how it sounds. The artwork is simple but sometimes that's the type to represent the album. To be completely honest, the album pretty much makes me think of a lot of black metal albums which just have a small picture in the middle. Not sure if that's good or bad though heh. The three red slashes is retarded though
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 19, 2009, 09:01:24 pm
If that really is the album artwork i will lol so much.

If it isn't then I will laugh at all those who have assumed they would release something that bad.

Win/Win
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on June 19, 2009, 09:38:50 pm
I'm not going to make any judgements yet, considering that

1) porcupine tree has never had good album art.  I mean look at deadwing's album cover and tell me you couldn't have done that in 10 minutes with photoshop either. 
2) fear of a blank planet had a terrible concept too and it turned out to be my second favorite release of the band's
3)coxswain is stupid so take that as you will
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on June 20, 2009, 12:42:51 pm
I don't think FOABP's concept was terrible, it was actually pretty interesting but what irritated me about FOABP was that the delivery of lyrics didn't live up to the concept, too much pills and shit. I really like some of the lyrics on FOABP but yeeeeeah, there was too much repetition and some pretty bad parts. Then again, lyrics have never been PT's strongest point.

I loved Insurgentes, but I seriously do not expect most people to like it a lot because it's just pretty different and not that accessible. It does have lots of accessible parts and whole songs too but a lot of it is pretty experimental and much more out there than PT so it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Also, here's the official album art I think (minus the placeholder text):

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/l61e8dd13dc3542a784ed28.jpeg)

Also, I really doubt the song cycle is going to be some prog epic like ONE LONG TRACK. If you read the stuff I posted, it sounds like it's going to be something like, say, The Fragile by Nine Inch Nails. There's continuity and songs flow into each other but each song is still clearly different. But it still works like one long track.

Also, apparently the album has more acoustic/poppy parts than previous effort(s) and there are less heavy parts as well, but the few heavy parts are apparently really heavy. I'm a bit disappointed that apparently there are no strings at all since I love whenever PT uses strings in their music, as sparse as they are. O well......
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on June 20, 2009, 03:01:23 pm
eh I'm okay with this album not having strings, I mean strings ruined "My Ashes" on foabp, so I'll take them off to avoid mistakes like that (although if there were to be any strings like on Sleep Together, well thats a different story)

and come on you have to admit theg concept to foabp was at least a little bit terrible ds
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on June 20, 2009, 04:06:09 pm
No they didn't. My Ashes is one of the best PT ballads. :( But yeah, you are absolutely right that the strings on Sleep Together are so much better and original as well, I really would want more stuff like that. Thing about PT's strings are that they never really go overboard with them and often they are rather subtle and I like that. But anyway, that's a completely subjective thing, I just dig strings when they are well used.

Also, I really don't think FOABP's concept was terrible at all. It genuinely intrigued me. I don't agree with nearly everything SW tried to say with the album but it was still interesting. And I'm not saying I disagree with everything, I really think the album made some good points I can relate to. Maybe it wasn't the most original concept ever but it had personality and it's always easier to enjoy and get into an album when you can relate to it.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on June 21, 2009, 04:25:30 pm
old folks have a valid point when they say "OH KIDS THESE DAYS!" but you still go "LOL OLD PEOPLE" when they say it anyways 


also I don't like how on the tracklsiting a lot of the songs are under 2 minutes, I get the feeling that this album is going to have a lot of interludes and while interludes are nice, I prefer something with a little more substance
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on June 21, 2009, 04:36:22 pm
I guess you don't really know until you try it, but yeah. Speculate some more its amusing :D
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on June 23, 2009, 09:42:14 pm
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“The Incident isn’t intended as one long song – it’s more a series of songs connected together in a continuous flow, with each song about a specific event. Originally the idea was to take the sense of musical continuity that is the basis of all PT albums to the next level by writing a 55-minute song cycle, starting with the simplest musical device - a single repeated guitar chord. I had no lyrical theme when I started, but I began at the beginning and each part of the song cycle grew naturally out of the previous one. This is very different to previous PT albums where the sequencing and flow of the albums was established at the end of the recording process by figuring out the best order for the songs. Here each song was specifically written to seamlessly flow out of the previous one and link to the next.”

This pretty much confirms it's not some long prog masterpiece but something more in vein of The Fragile as I suspected.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: HybridZero on June 24, 2009, 03:38:07 am
lolpt
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 07, 2009, 07:44:17 am
gonna bore u guys w/more impressions

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Today I attended the Porcupine Tree playback for the new album, The Incident. Located at a London studio, the 55 minute epic was played through high quality 5.1 DTS surround sound speakers, showing off the advanced mixing skills of Darcy Proper, easily matching the sound experience of Deadwing.

It takes many, many listens to fully appreciate and notice all the subtleties of such a long song but even in a single session the unique Porcupine Tree sound was easily recognisable.

Starting very suddenly and changing often, a mixture of Jeff Wayne’s War of the Worlds and Nine Inch Nails shines through the middle section as the “story” of the first song progresses. Intense electric guitar contrasts against “Trains”-like acoustic, interspersed with grand piano which could easily be from Insurgentes.

Indeed, The Incident would not be out of place on the In Absentia album with its heavy guitar riffs and swirling Barbieri synth effects.

We were only treated to the first song, broken down into 14 parts, with 4 remaining, but separate, songs still to be revealed. One thing is certain, this is going to be a good year for Porcupine Tree.

The Incident in the new album from Porcupine Tree, out September 21st 2009.

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Wotcha all!
 
This will be a very short post as I don't have much time this morning to do the thing justice but here goes...
 
Air Studios, Hampstead, is a converted church which you could easily walk past if you did not know it was there but I did and I went in!
 
The actual event kicked off at around 6:15pm yesterday evening with SW hovering around checking speakers etc.  SW did apologise to all who were around the edges in that they would not get the whole 5.1 experience. We were let in early and I bagged the best seat right in the middle!
 
Anyway, the lights did not dim but the music did start and for the next 55mins we were exposed to another episode of PT brilliance. Unlike SoD I thought the whole thing held together really well, in fact, I think it is a much better crafted album than Fear. Nothing seemed out of place although the mood does change from track to track. Time Flies is certainly a brilliant 'hats off' to PF and was very reminiscent of parts of the Animals album. I really loved it but there was plenty more really good stuff too. Yes there are Opethesque heavy riffs in parts and some brilliant harmonies but overall it seemed to be a very tight almost Spartan affair in terms of the final effect. SW's vocals are really spot on and not hidden behind effects.
 
To answer some of the other questions on the forum regarding the other players... yes it is true that neither Colin or Richard's contributions are 'in your face' but they are very much there and really bring things alive. Colin is certainly playing a fretless for some of the time but I couldn't say that for every track. Richard uses lots of very subtle effects in addition to the standard keyboard stuff... really adds to the atmosphere. And Gavin is right in there with his usual variety of rhythms and tempos.
 
Some brilliant but simple riffs and rhythms are dotted throughout the album but in many ways this will be one to listen to from start to finish and then start over again.
 
All in all as good as I've heard and yes there are Insurgentes similarities but this is very definitely a PT album rather than a SW one.
 
I'll try and give a more full account of each track later today, if/when I find the time but for now I'm afraid I have to go.

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Well Roadrunner Records UK and the band held 3 listening sessions today at Air Studios in North London. I was lucky enough to get a invite via the CRS and attended the evening session.

Mr Wilson and Mr Barbieri were present, but Steven was feeling a bit unwell (and no doubt had been chatting to other journos all day), so he didn't stick around for very long after the listening session. Steven did give a little intro talk but didn't really add to what you can already read on the Website or the Roadrunner site.

We were all sat in the main studio in the middle of a quad speaker setup which sounded fantastic, even though, seated as I was on the front-row, I probably didn't get the very best of sound

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2988717&l=c89fc1c7c6&id=685806666

We got to listen to the 55 min 'song cycle' (i.e. the first disk) and very nice it was too.

THE INCIDENT
i occam's razor (1.55)
ii the blind house (5.47)
iii great expectations (1.26)
iv kneel and disconnect (2.03)
v drawing the line (4.43)
vi the incident (5.20)
vii your unpleasant family (1.48)
viii the yellow windows of the evening train (2.00)
ix time flies (11.40)
x degree zero of liberty (1.45)
xi octane twisted (5.03)
xii the séance (2.39)
xiii circle of manias (2.18)
xiv i drive the hearse (6.41)

I think its impossible to review anything on the basis of one listen, but a few things which stood out were

1) The songs flow was good and there was a certain feel which was reminiscent of On the Sunday of Life - i.e. songs of various styles which bled into each other quite nicely. Early songs were punctuated by the heavy riffing of the opening number, but the later songs transition more smoothly.

2) The longest song - Time Flies at 11:40 was the song which stood out for me. There was a nice long guitar solo in the middle.

3) The oddest song was perhaps the title track which went from almost industrial sounding to pleasant breezy Porcupine Tree circa Lightbulb Sun. I wonder if Frippertronics were involved at the beginning ... but Fripp is not mentioned as being a guest on the album

As someone who like FoaBP but still found it a little indigestible in some ways, I think that this is a more accessible and less heavy Porcupine Tree.

Its gonna take a bit more digestion ... when (if) promo copies get sent out, but I think that there is certainly a little of everything in there for PT fans of all eras.

I'm sure that a report will appear soon in UK publications (print and online) as there were 3 of these sessions and I'd expect that the takeup was pretty good. I'd guess that those who were able to attend the sessions earlier in the day probably had the opportunity to interview members of the band, but having to work meant that the evening session was the only one I could attend.

We were also given a little handout with the lyrics and some details of the album. There don't appear to be any guest appearances though Wes does contribute some guitar - not sure if he counts as a 'guest' or not.

hoping audio clips will come out soon now that the listening parties are done with
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on July 07, 2009, 12:34:21 pm
Someone needs to leak this already.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on July 07, 2009, 02:07:53 pm
word on the street says....


PT sold out
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: dragonx on July 07, 2009, 04:55:33 pm
fuck pt
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 07, 2009, 05:16:50 pm
fuck pt
could someone warn dragonx for this? i don't think rules allow this kind of groundless bashing.

EDIT:

http://roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=79840

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This coming Monday (JULY 13TH), we will reveal a taste of things to come from the upcoming album by PORCUPINE TREE- THE INCIDENT.

Check back here at 4pm Monday to hear a snippet of the title track from the new album, which in it's entirity lasts a staggering 55 minutes! We will also bring you the thoughts of some of the fans who attended a full 5.1 playback of the track in a studio here in London on the 6th July.

The album will now be released on SEPTEMBER 14TH in three formats- a standard double CD, and MP3 download and a Deluxe Edition (full details TBC).

release date is 14th instead of 21st and 5 days for audio snippet.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on July 08, 2009, 05:07:51 pm
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could someone warn dragonx for this? i don't think rules allow this kind of groundless bashing.
actually i think that's grounds for promotion
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 13, 2009, 04:01:58 am
preview is up: http://www.myspace.com/porcupinetree

Sounds p.cool!! loving some bits while others sound pretty weird and can't judge them on this. Definitely more electronic elements this time around.
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Post by: ATARI on July 14, 2009, 12:05:34 am
a few places I loled at the vocals so I don't know what to think about the new album at this point  we'll see when something more than ridiculous record label appeasement medley has been released.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on July 14, 2009, 09:02:48 am
There's a lot of recycled riffs from Anesthetize in that preview in places.

It also seems they are trying to be more of a Roadrunner style band with the metul.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on July 14, 2009, 01:58:23 pm
I didn't think there was that much from the preview that I would consider to be any more metal than any of the previous releases.  If anything, the medley seems to show that this album is more varied than the previous albums which were pretty musically straightforward when it came to the stuff that was rock-out steven wilson style.
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Post by: Ryan on July 14, 2009, 08:53:55 pm
pt are on roadrunner? ahahhaha
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: blood hell on July 14, 2009, 08:58:43 pm
i might understand your argument if there was a time pt wasn't pretentious and vague as fuck but dude, it has never been the case. pt's music has always been like that, and AT LEAST borderline pretentious. foabp is the only album which actually makes a somewhat clear statement.

also you have a wrong idea. it doesn't matter if they shit on their audience or not. they don't create their music for you, they create it for themselves. if you like it then that's cool but don't get the wrong idea. they shouldn't be thinking about what listeners want when they are making music.

if this was really the case why even market the album
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Carrion Crow on July 14, 2009, 09:23:00 pm
It's like an olympic event where a bunch of people in their late teens try their hardest to have a more cynical view of music than the next guy.

Guys, just think of... fluffy... bunnies.

Now breathe. Perhaps bash one out.
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Post by: DS on July 14, 2009, 09:49:23 pm
if this was really the case why even market the album
even if you are going to do something your own way doesn't mean you don't want others to hear and like it. not sure how you reached that conclusion. all i said that as musicians you should do what you want to do and not care what your fans want. that's stupid as fuck.

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pt are on roadrunner? ahahhaha
been for nearly 3 years now, get on with the times pal. i fail to see what's so funny about it though, roadrunner has done great job with both pt and opeth and their popularity has increased a lot despite both putting out pretty unconventional records!

btw ed what parts are recycled from anesthetize? the only somewhat similar part i hear is the chugga chugga part and even that isn't the same.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Ryan on July 14, 2009, 09:59:01 pm
roadrunner is one of the worst record companies probably ever

theyre also pretty excessively 'corporate'
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 14, 2009, 10:06:13 pm
roadrunner is one of the worst record companies probably ever

theyre also pretty excessively 'corporate'
may i ask where you come up with this stuff?? they aren't even considered a major label as far as i know so i really doubt they are as corporate as some bigger labels. as for being one of the worst record companies, do you mean their lineup? if so, i agree that most of the artists under them are absolute garbage. but as long as they let bands do what they want, that doesn't matter to me. then again i don't really give a shit about record labels.

by the way this would have made a way better cover:

(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9871/incidentdrawing.jpg)
(promotional art)

but no they had to go pick that photo over it. this one has so much more style. :(
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Post by: ATARI on July 14, 2009, 10:57:12 pm
actually DS, roadrunner is considered a major record label because they're owned by WB

in the past Roadrunner has actually had a pretty bad track record with how they promoted bands.  I recall reading an interview or something where Glassjaw was all up in Roadrunner's grill about the record refusing to give bands decent support unless they were in the big tier of puling in money for the label.  This would've been like 2000-2001 though, so I suspect things have changed since then, although how much, I really don't know.  I seem to recall other bands saying similar things about Roadrunner being kind of a bad label to deal with but I cannot recall any specific bands saying such other than Glassjaw at the moment.  HOWEVER, this doesn't indicant anything with the quality of the music as DS cited.   Roadrunner doesn't seemed to have changed or pushed towards any agenda, which makes me suspect that they have changed some of their management style, or they have just seen that some bands are more sucessful with what they do rather than the record label pushing them into becoming something else.   It doesn't help that they have a decent cash cow going still with nickleback and the likes on their record label anyways.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 14, 2009, 11:18:03 pm
Oh aight, if some bands have had problems with them then I understand if they are considered a bad label. Like I said, I don't really give a shit so I have never read up on Roadrunner. I just know SW has criticized their past label for lack of support while being extremely happy with the way Roadrunner has handled things and giving them free hands from writing and recording to producing. Roadrunner just practically markets and distributes their records, I suppose it's a win-win situation for both.

But yeah, obviously Roadrunner is a business company so they'll surely want to make as much money as possible, but that applies to pretty much all the labels and we all know that music industry sucks. But as long as labels don't start affecting what kind of music you have to put out (as in artists I like :cool: ), I don't have any bigger reason to care about labels.

over n out... im goin 2 sleep
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on July 14, 2009, 11:37:58 pm
Oh aight, if some bands have had problems with them then I understand if they are considered a bad label. Like I said, I don't really give a shit so I have never read up on Roadrunner. I just know SW has criticized their past label for lack of support while being extremely happy with the way Roadrunner has handled things and giving them free hands from writing and recording to producing. Roadrunner just practically markets and distributes their records, I suppose it's a win-win situation for both.

But yeah, obviously Roadrunner is a business company so they'll surely want to make as much money as possible, but that applies to pretty much all the labels and we all know that music industry sucks. But as long as labels don't start affecting what kind of music you have to put out (as in artists I like :cool: ), I don't have any bigger reason to care about labels.

over n out... im goin 2 sleep
yea i really don't care either as long as they're making music i like and the record label isn't treating them like shit although record labels are apparently pretty important to some people
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: blood hell on July 15, 2009, 06:50:00 am
well ok so a band makes the music they want to hear. steven wilson has bad taste then
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 15, 2009, 08:38:17 am
you'd make a better troll in world of warcraft LOL
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Farren on July 15, 2009, 11:29:03 pm
ds does your throat hurt?
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Shepperd on July 16, 2009, 06:30:42 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/ninoops/Incident.jpg)
this looks like an rm2k title art, seriously
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Paragon on July 16, 2009, 08:52:09 am
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/36480/theincidentgame.png)

story::  100% i had this dream it is very vivid
there was a sine saying police - incident and everyone was slow down to see what had happen... afterwards, a ghost was in my car "the irony of such cold expression" he said to me

characters::: 5% (LOTS OF CHARACTERS!!! COMING SOON)
steven wilson
david bowie
foget

features:: 25% (planning done!!)
day/night system
CUSTOM MENUS
CUSTOM BATTLE SYSTEM I DESIGN IT IS LIKE FINAL FANTASY
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on July 16, 2009, 08:58:13 am
ahahaha, that actually fits pretty well.

but yeah, it's amazing that they picked that cover over the other promo art. edited the real cover art (minus the text i assume) to the first post tho.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: DS on August 31, 2009, 06:42:12 pm
so it leaked today, the quality leaves a lot to be desired as it's some shitty 128kbps (i think) transcode in 320kbps with clipping in many songs but here are some opinions after hearing it three times!

- it's a whole different album from foabp. whereas foabp had this dark, dense, compressed, sometimes even atonal sound, the incident sounds much more lush. it has dark parts too but the production and the overall sound of the album is waaaaaay different except for some of the heavy bits which continue in the same direction foabp was going.
- speaking of heavy... this album is pretty much not heavy. it is clearly less heavy than foabp, deadwing or even in absentia. the first disc is 55 minutes and there are maybe 10 minutes of heavy parts there (and even less on second cd). and some of those parts aren't even all that heavy. some are just these HUGE sounding chords with ambience and it's pretty fucking cool and new! so yes, this album is not very heavy and a breath of fresh air.
- incredibly varied and more electronic as well. lots of ambience compared to past albums. and in lack of a better word right now, there are some parts which sound just weird. not bad but weird. like it doesn't even sound like something pt would do, drawing the line being a perfect example. a very fucking cool song by the way.
- LOTS and I mean LOTS of great sounding guitars here! a fair amount of soloing but not the boring, complex and gay like soloing, the guitar solos are very moody and even understated. imagine pink floyd and not dream theater.
- the first cd flows very well. it is not one song at all, you can tell this very clearly. calling it song cycle makes perfect sense although unfortunately the shit quality of the current leak partly ruins the flow with some clipping in the beginning of tracks.
- sw's vocals are seriously better than ever. they aren't treated very much on the album and sound kinda different as well. lots of emotion and tons of fantastic vocal melodies.
- lyrically it's a lot more loose than foabp. a fair amount of instrumental songs/parts in songs too. i need to upload this interview where sw talks about the concept and it's actually pretty cool and very different from foabp. overall the album is return to more abstract lyrics.
- it has a fair amount of some pretty experimental bits, it's a dense record and i know i'm not going to be making any final judgement before hearing it a dozen of times more and in better quality. despite being maybe pt's most experimental record, it's still more accessible than foabp due to the production. at least in my opinion.
- you cannot not love some of the piano bits on this album i promise.
- oh yeah prominent use of acoustic guitar. :)

anyway, first impression is very good! i'm not gonna post anything specific about songs yet but i think everyone is going to be surprised at some bits and it really is pretty fucking varied and very different from foabp.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on August 31, 2009, 08:34:28 pm
tldr  so i guess it blows huh
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Post by: DS on August 31, 2009, 08:59:08 pm
yes that is exactly what i was trying to say

this album sucks do not get it
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Post by: Summoner on August 31, 2009, 11:26:43 pm
will do ds.
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Post by: Carrion Crow on August 31, 2009, 11:53:16 pm
Still haven't listened to it. Let's see how long I can go before I crack. I really really wanna.
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Post by: spacelion on September 01, 2009, 06:57:48 pm
So I am halfway through it.   I really want to go back and listen to Drawing the Line again.
But it's been really really really good so far!  Way better than FoaBP.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: spacelion on September 01, 2009, 07:01:57 pm
okay, I'm glad your unpleasant family was so short.  I didn't like that one. :(
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Post by: Bumblebee man on September 01, 2009, 09:40:43 pm
From your write up DS I'm pretty excited about this. I was worried it was going to be FoaBP2 but it sounds like that's not the case. I heard a preview of this on the radio (like they played a track or something, couldn't tell you which one as they didn't say) and it reminded me a lot of Stupid Dream. I'm really excited now!
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: spacelion on September 02, 2009, 02:56:42 am
From your write up DS I'm pretty excited about this. I was worried it was going to be FoaBP2 but it sounds like that's not the case. I heard a preview of this on the radio (like they played a track or something, couldn't tell you which one as they didn't say) and it reminded me a lot of Stupid Dream. I'm really excited now!

It's really different.  it's full of energy and not-GRRRRRTARZ.
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Post by: DS on September 05, 2009, 09:36:43 am
it leaked in flac :)
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Post by: ATARI on September 05, 2009, 04:42:24 pm
im getting the proper now from what.cd
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on September 06, 2009, 04:35:39 am
wow. i do not honestly know what to think about this album.    Like it is no doubt a pretty decent album, but in my opinion of having listened through it (and only once mind you, so this could change, i just haven't had the time today to do this sort of thing) it is probably the band's weakest since lightbulb sun (the last 3 albums have been killer in comparison, this one is just good).    There are no doubt some really good instances of this album and some really good ideas and the overall piece is pretty good, but like it just isn't an album that clicks with you or stays with you much after you've listened to it.  this could be because i haven't really had the time to properly digest it and i had to break up some of my listening time as well.  I will try again later because there are definitely some really good moments on the album, but i dunno about the whole thing.
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: Bumblebee man on September 06, 2009, 10:35:37 am
What if you like Lightbulb Sun more than you like Fear of a Blank Planet?
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Post by: DS on September 06, 2009, 10:57:06 am
The Incident is considerably more similar to Lightbulb Sun than Fear of a Blank Planet so that's a good thing for you I suppose. Some heavy bits are reminiscent of FOABP though. I prefer FOABP to Lightbulb Sun myself but Lightbulb Sun is definitely one of PT's best releases, I'd say it's on equal grounds with Deadwing.

Anyway, the album flows much better with the proper rip and it sounds a whole lot better too. I have heard it about a dozen times so far and while I think it's up there with PT's best work, I think I'm still preferring FOABP at the moment. It's a bit hard to compare them though as they are pretty different and there are a lot of things I like about The Incident which FOABP doesn't have and vice versa. I'm just happy that the new album hasn't disappointed me and hopefully PT will do more electronic stuff in future, I really want to hear more songs like The Incident and Sleep Together.

Also, I think that you really have to appreciate the album experience to get full enjoyment out of The Incident. The short tracks are really good but if you listen to them out of context, they can leave you a bit cold as they are so short. But if you listen to the full album, they form a whole different kind of experience. For example, Great Expectations and Kneel and Disconnect make a great duo together, Your Unpleasant Family continues perfectly from The Incident and Octane Twisted, The Séance and Circle of Manias work really well together and Degree Zero of Liberty is a pretty cool intro to them as well. So yeah, if you aren't an album listener, I can see how this album might be a bit too much to swallow.
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Post by: ATARI on September 06, 2009, 10:06:17 pm
this album really falls apart near the end
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on September 06, 2009, 10:06:33 pm
like there is nothing interesting in the last 2-3 tracks
Title: Porcupine Tree - The Incident
Post by: ATARI on September 10, 2009, 12:38:34 am
guys lets be honest, this album ain't the album of the year and the new muse album is superior
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on September 10, 2009, 09:31:54 am
guys lets be honest, this album ain't the album of the year and the new muse album is superior
seriously man make a topic about the new muse album with youtube links + stop repeating beating (ds gimme creds :sly: :cool:​) that line in every other topic...!
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Post by: Bumblebee man on September 15, 2009, 09:39:28 am
What I am about to tell you may sound disgustingly fan boyish, and it is but is also the sole reason I don't download leaks of stuff. The experiences I've had in the past 12 hours are way better than downloading a torrent.

"The Incident" came in the post today. I managed to get myself really excited about it. I couldn't sleep last night at all. I got up, got dressed, put on my PT T-shirt,  and literally spend like an hour just sitting by the door waiting for the post. I just got finished listening to the first disc (I'm not really gonna consider the second disc part of the album, even though it is) and here's my opinion.

It rules. This album is pretty, clever and pretty brutal all at the same time. This is better than Fear by a COUNTRY MILE. The Incident is the stand out track just because it was so damn good and pretty much like nothing PT have done before. I Drive The Hearse is such an epic album closer, with it's pretty bits and it's geetar solos and stuff. While it's definitely not my favourite PT album it could quite easily be in a few months time after a few listens. Even the heavy bits (don't get me wrong I like it when PT go heavy but it was very amatuerish on FoaBP, are sound a lot better) are great. They sound a lot like Opeth in places and that's never a bad thing. I can't believe that I was worried about this album at all! Most of this probably doesn't make sense because I am posting under the influence of excitement.

Edit: Bonnie the Cat, was unexpectedly heavy, you know for a song called Bonnie The Cat. I'm not really getting the second disc. Like, I don't see the point in it at all! I guess it saves them releasing these songs in 6 months time and charging £8 for a NEW MINI ALBUM ala Nil Recurring. The songs are good but it's not part of THE INCIDENT so I'm not bothered. It feels like something they've stuck on at the end. At least they put them on a different disc as not to ruin the flow of the other album.
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Post by: DS on September 16, 2009, 08:15:11 am
Quote
Edit: Bonnie the Cat, was unexpectedly heavy, you know for a song called Bonnie The Cat. I'm not really getting the second disc. Like, I don't see the point in it at all! I guess it saves them releasing these songs in 6 months time and charging £8 for a NEW MINI ALBUM ala Nil Recurring. The songs are good but it's not part of THE INCIDENT so I'm not bothered. It feels like something they've stuck on at the end. At least they put them on a different disc as not to ruin the flow of the other album.
They released the second disc with the album because with Nil Recurring they really noticed that EPs simply don't get the same exposure as albums do and wanted to release it with the album because they felt the songs were just as good as anything else on the first disc. I agree because all the songs on the second disc are great and Remember Me Lover is easily one of their best songs.

Anyway, I got my deluxe edition yesterday and went to rami's place to listen to it in 5.1 and it was fantastic! Time Flies in 5.1 was fucking awesome, it's not my favorite song on the album but it was my favorite 5.1 track. If you can listen to The Incident in 5.1, I really recommend you do! But that applies to all of PT's 5.1 mixes.

I uploaded a few pics:

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident1.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident2.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident3.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident4.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident5.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident6.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident7.jpeg)

Also I agree with Ramci, ATARI should create a topic for Muse's new album if he wants to discuss it.
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Post by: ATARI on September 16, 2009, 11:40:54 am
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/25085/Incident6.jpeg)
looks like KID A artwork
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Post by: Bumblebee man on September 16, 2009, 11:56:50 am
How much more was that? I can imagine it being quite expensive?!
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Post by: DS on September 16, 2009, 12:29:28 pm
it cost 70 euros which was ridiculous but it's pretty awesome so i don't regret buying it. plus i can always sell it if i need the money.
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Post by: Bumblebee man on September 16, 2009, 10:39:06 pm
It's up on Spotify BTW! They've even uploaded the whole album as one song  (but they've named it Occam's Razor and included the rest of the tracks separately) Hilarious!