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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Verne on July 08, 2009, 06:44:57 pm
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Do you remember those great World of Warcraft killers like Lord of the Rings Online, Age of Conan and Warhammer Online? Wonder what happened to them and if they are any better these days? Well if you do then now is the time to get back and try them out! LotRO, AoC and WHO are all having a 10 to 14 days FREE re-evaluation period for old users, right now! But the offer only last for so long so if you want to try these CLASSICS again act now!
If that free time was not enough, you can even get some random crap if you decide to re-activate your account (as in pay for at least a month, you still get 10 to 14 days free). AoC gives you a mount, some items (one of three I think), WHO gives you an item (one of four I think) and I have no idea of LotRO has similiar offer to be honest as I don't give a shit about that game.
Anyway, I'm currently downloading Age of Conan myself but I do also plan to try Warhammer Online also. If anyone feels like it we could even roll together on some server (I'm European so EU servers only!).
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I don't get this at all. How is a couple of free items/mounts going to stop us quitting for the exact same reasons we quit from before?
The pricing is the same, the content is the same, the gameplay is the same, there's no free expansions or extra content.
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The only "WoW Killer" that I ever tried was Lord of the Rings Online and I found that game to be horribly uninteresting. The areas all looked nice, but the game just lacked a lot in terms of presentation. I never felt sucked in at all, either.
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I don't get this at all. How is a couple of free items/mounts going to stop us quitting for the exact same reasons we quit from before?
The pricing is the same, the content is the same, the gameplay is the same, there's no free expansions or extra content.
There are new content, at least in AoC and WHO. Maybe not worth of expansion but it's new content. Of course there also has been patches that have fixed a lot of old issues. I tried AoC myself and it ran a lot more smoothly than it did a year ago, the items are actually good now and there's a few new zones and dungeons to explore. WHO I know has 4 new classes and a new zone. They also revamped the tier 4 PvP to be more "interesting".
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Of those three, LOTRO was the one I really enjoyed. Might be that I just enjoyed the world and atmosphere, and it was the only one with "lore" that I enjoy.
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I enjoyed AoC because everyone from my work stayed up the launch day and played it for hours. But seriously, weighing in at 30gb I have no willpower to redownload it. The main reason I will NEVER play it again is all my names I claimed for my toons on launch day were erased when the servers merged. Fuck DAT.
I find though, I'd rather play a game I like less with friends than play a game I like more with no-one.
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Warhammer still around? Heard its players were declining dramatically after release, I bought it myself and gave up about a month later because I could never get into the servers.. a problem most Warhammer players were having.
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Warhammer still around? Heard its players were declining dramatically after release, I bought it myself and gave up about a month later because I could never get into the servers.. a problem most Warhammer players were having.
Of course it's still around. It's not even a year old. You don't need 12 million subscribers like WoW to be profitable. You can make profits with a lot less, like 20k or so.
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Warhammer still around? Heard its players were declining dramatically after release, I bought it myself and gave up about a month later because I could never get into the servers.. a problem most Warhammer players were having.
15k American subscribers. A giant flop and a shabby piece of design that somehow gets worse every time they add to it. That game got boring really, really fast.
AoC's pretty good these days considering its an MMO of all things, but it still falls into some of the classic traps: IE : HEY, let's add an XP meter to this! It also doesn't help that the game suffers from input lag whenever more than 6 people engage in a fight. If they hadn't bogged down the game so much it could have been something more successful; instead they thought it was a good idea to make an subscription MMORPG with high end system specifications and poor scaling performance. Still; the leveling is fairly painless and fighting against npcs is a lot deeper than your average piece of crap MMORPG.
If you still like MMORPGs AoC's a pretty solid game despite it's horrible launch... Kind of feel bad for the developers; actually. They work so hard, and even had some great ideas put into the game (dungeons that are more than just "Kill monsters > kill boss > leave", real time combat streamlining, etc); but bad first impressions are hard to shake off.
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If you still like MMORPGs AoC's a pretty solid game despite it's horrible launch... Kind of feel bad for the developers; actually. They work so hard, and even had some great ideas put into the game (dungeons that are more than just "Kill monsters > kill boss > leave", real time combat streamlining, etc); but bad first impressions are hard to shake off.
Well it's their fault for releasing the game in such a poor state to begin with. Everything beyond the (albeit pretty awesome) opening felt rushed and empty, and it clearly lacked content to be justifiably ready for release. I dunno what you mean about the dungeons though...all the ones I played (up to level 40 or so? Maybe 50ish. Just after you get a mount) were just enter kill kill hide and run from overpowered mobs kill kill leave. Definitely the more fun of the 3 for sure, but not seeing what the great ideas were.
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15k American subscribers. A giant flop and a shabby piece of design that somehow gets worse every time they add to it. That game got boring really, really fast.
I'd really like to know where you got this number from.
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I started playing a free MMORPG and I sort of like it. Has alot of stuff for you to do. Mind you I never played WOW. But it seems to have alot of things right and I see nothing wrong with the game.
http://atlantica.ijji.com/center/default.asp
If anyone wants to start or try it out go ahead I Might be able to hook you up with a few things. The server i'm on is called Macedon and when you make your character put DarkestBlood in the referral even if you don't like it you can help me out too in thr long run by puting me in the referral lol.
The game plays like a trunbase RPG leveling comes fast and the crafting system is nicely done. Evertime i'm in town I see my self playing aroud with the market trying to sell the crap I don't need and tieing up loose ends (I forgot that guilds can own towns and some how you can own a shop...but not sure how. ). Just made +8 Spirit Sword today which would fetch for some good gold If I wasn't using it. It took alot crafting to make it and god only knows how many weponstones
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Aion comes out in a few months, so hopefully that won't flop horribly like these WoW-wannabes did. I played in one of the beta events and enjoyed my time in it, so I should at least have fun going through the first 10 levels if nothing else. I imagine the game gets better the further you get in, it was getting to a pretty comfortable place with the complexity as I got near the end of the beta content.
More on topic, I did want to try Lord of the Rings Online, but it wouldn't run on Windows 7 at all, so I gave up trying. My poor trial account, lost in the nets.
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Aion comes out in a few months, so hopefully that won't flop horribly like these WoW-wannabes did. I played in one of the beta events and enjoyed my time in it, so I should at least have fun going through the first 10 levels if nothing else. I imagine the game gets better the further you get in, it was getting to a pretty comfortable place with the complexity as I got near the end of the beta content.
More on topic, I did want to try Lord of the Rings Online, but it wouldn't run on Windows 7 at all, so I gave up trying. My poor trial account, lost in the nets.
Aion is terrible. Like, really, REALLY terrible. I dont know how they did it, but they managed to water down MMO combat even more. There are also plenty of giant grinds attached to it... Oh, and if you remember the early WoW High Warlord / Grand Marshal system, Aion uses that model.
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I'll just continue playing Morrowind instead hah.. or maybe re-install Guild Wars which although the lvl 20 cap is awesome 'cos you have less pride, it's still pretty awesome.
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Aion is terrible. Like, really, REALLY terrible. I dont know how they did it, but they managed to water down MMO combat even more. There are also plenty of giant grinds attached to it... Oh, and if you remember the early WoW High Warlord / Grand Marshal system, Aion uses that model.
Yeah you have totally convinced me. I will take my personal experience with the game and throw it away.
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Yeah you have totally convinced me. I will take my personal experience with the game and throw it away.
Aion will flop just like all of the other "GREAT HOPES" of the MMORPG genre. Aion, Darkfall, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan, all taking turns trying to fill this role; all failing to meet even the most reasonable of expectations... Of course despite all this, there are people willing to defend it as if it was a family member's name being tarnished. If you don't believe me, go ahead and read up on the game, how the "Abyss" works, and just how much grinding the game actually has.
In the end, the whole MMORPG convention is as tired as it is tedious. You're plopped into the world, and you do menial repetitive tasks for exp. You do enough of this to reach the max level where you reach the "END GAME". A different assortment of tedious repetitive tasks, only now it takes substantially longer to get anything done. 99% of all MMORPGs fall under the former, and if you still enjoy that... Well, have fun. I'll be off playing games that don't hide themselves behind hours upon hours of boring tasks.
There are people out there who actively enjoy playing EVE, Darkfall and Lineage 2 ( ][ ?!) proving once again that people will play and gladly pay for pretty much anything.
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Okay son, you are in a thread about MMO's, taking swings at the genre in general. This is trolling and I don't know why you are wasting your time.
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Im rather keen to see how the new Stargate MMO will do when its eventually released.
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Okay son, you are in a thread about MMO's, taking swings at the genre in general. This is trolling and I don't know why you are wasting your time.
Maybe if the genre as a whole wasn't in such a piss poor state of regression, it wouldn't be so easy. I'm not "trolling" when I say that AoC is pretty much one of the better MMOs out there right now, and for all the problems that game has that's pretty sad.
But I am sorry. I wasn't aware offering a dissenting opinion on something is considered trolling.