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Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 03:17:09 am
:ganja: DRUGS! :ganja:

:ganja: DRUGS! :ganja:

Okay so I know most of the GW community either has done or either does drugs on occasion, or maybe you don't, and have something against them? Either way, drugs have most likely have some sort of impact on your life. Me myself, personally have done em quite a few times, but for the most part have even stopped weed these days. I feel they don't really have any meaning to my life, and weed especially causes negative effects in me after a while.

But if anyone read the huge post I made back a while ago, you would know the hardships and life-changing experiences I have gone through with ecstasy. It basically took over my life and fucked me over pretty good. But since then, I have learned to deal with it, and learn from my experiences.

So I pose to you the question GW, Do you do drugs? If so, what kind? And how have they positively/negatively effected your life?

EDIT BY ADMIN: We do not condone the use of illegal or hazardous substances. Do not rely on any information you find in this topic to be relevant, reliant or truthful. Do not experiment with anything illegal or dangerous, and always make sure you do proper and thorough research on the subject before deciding to try anything.   
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on August 03, 2009, 03:36:07 am
i'm going to be trying acid and shrooms some time in the next two weeks, any advice?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: rapstar on August 03, 2009, 03:42:38 am
lol try not to drink milk before you do shrooms.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 03:42:42 am
With shrooms, take more than you think you need, to get the full amazing effect. At least 4-5 G's.

Acid/lsd I have yet to try, but I've heard that it can seriously fuck you up for life, as in, make you paranoid skitzo.
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Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 03:43:43 am
I've had a big argument with a friend recently about legalizing marijuana (me being for it). It can be taxed, controlled (marijuana stamps, licenses to sell, *huge* fines for breaking license), and according to some sources it's less damaging than cigarettes or alcohol (socially, physically, or economically). I need more reputable sources, but I'm pretty much in favor of the legalization of marijuana. Just throwing that out there, even though it's off topic.

Other than that, no, I don't do drugs, and I plan not to. This is mainly because addiction is bodily harmful and I like to think that I have some measure of control over my body/mind. (But if the rest of you guys want to do that, that's fine. I just want to tax your asses)

(On a side-note, legalizing it means you eliminate the stupid fucking drug cartels and people needlessly dying).
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 03:47:47 am
Weed has pretty much no addiction, just habitual really. But yeah, I'm all for legalization but I doubt we'd see it anytime soon.
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Post by: Evangel on August 03, 2009, 03:52:11 am
i'm going to be trying acid and shrooms some time in the next two weeks, any advice?

do it with someone experienced, for at least your first time.  do it with a positive state of mind, in a secure location.  don't trip in a place where you will have to hide the fact.    don't take it after an argument with your girlfriend or with negative issues on your mind.  don't fight the trip, ride it out and tell yourself that you'll come out after a few hours.  if you want to start out slow, start with a few shrooms instead of doing acid.  it's easier to measure your dose, and generally more light-hearted.

goddamn it, i really wish i could find some acid or shrooms.  it's the only undetectable drug i can take right now, and my absolute favorite kind of trip.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 03:53:18 am
Weed has pretty much no addiction, just habitual really. But yeah, I'm all for legalization but I doubt we'd see it anytime soon.
That being said though, I wouldn't trust most dealers because it can be laced.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: GirlBones on August 03, 2009, 03:56:30 am
i am a drug dealer and i just want to make sure that you all heed juris' advice because we lace weed all the time

i love to put  expensive drugs into inexpensive drugs just for shits and giggles
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: ase on August 03, 2009, 03:58:17 am
I think it is obligatory to state that GW does not condone illegal drug usage. Please, please don't be an idiot and consider any information that you read here as a reliable source. Do your own research and talk to knowledgeable people that you trust before you even think about following people's advice here. Don't be dumb.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 04:00:53 am
That being said though, I wouldn't trust most dealers because it can be laced.

Very unlikely, unless it depends on where you live I guess.

I think it is obligatory to state that GW does not condone illegal drug usage. Please, please don't be an idiot and consider any information that you read here as a reliable source. Do your own research and talk to knowledgeable people that you trust before you even think about following people's advice here. Don't be dumb.

yes, and

www.erowid.org
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Post by: Allen Hunter on August 03, 2009, 04:02:52 am
I never tried drugs. Never found use for that crap other than waste my money (and life) away on that shit. I'm a musician, and I can be talented with or without drugs. Fucking hippies.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 03, 2009, 04:03:43 am
I've had a big argument with a friend recently about legalizing marijuana (me being for it). It can be taxed, controlled (marijuana stamps, licenses to sell, *huge* fines for breaking license), and according to some sources it's less damaging than cigarettes or alcohol (socially, physically, or economically). I need more reputable sources, but I'm pretty much in favor of the legalization of marijuana. Just throwing that out there, even though it's off topic.

Other than that, no, I don't do drugs, and I plan not to. This is mainly because addiction is bodily harmful and I like to think that I have some measure of control over my body/mind. (But if the rest of you guys want to do that, that's fine. I just want to tax your asses)

(On a side-note, legalizing it means you eliminate the stupid fucking drug cartels and people needlessly dying).

It won't eliminate cartels it will only make what they do legal plus some big corporation could start growing marijuana and that would drive several home growers out of business (not good)

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It wouldn't eliminate illegal pot selling either (some people don't like to pay taxes)
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Alec on August 03, 2009, 04:08:00 am
With shrooms, take more than you think you need, to get the full amazing effect. At least 4-5 G's.

This is kind of a terrible idea. start with ~2-3 grams. It's possible to have complete loss of self at under 4 grams.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on August 03, 2009, 04:08:14 am
That being said though, I wouldn't trust most dealers because it can be laced.

no offence but it sounds like you've never done a single drug in your life. also, please don't turn this into a legalize marijuana discussion.
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Post by: Alec on August 03, 2009, 04:08:54 am
Your best bet is to get 3 grams and split it into 3 piles and take one every half hour or so.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on August 03, 2009, 04:14:52 am
i'm going to be trying acid and shrooms some time in the next two weeks, any advice?

shrooms you should be ok but don't take too much acid if you aren't used to heavy tripping

I took a hit and a half my first time and that shit was crazy


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i love to put  expensive drugs into inexpensive drugs just for shits and giggles

he might have meant it has some extra bullshit in there the dealers threw in for some reason. Like I smoked some weed a few months ago that had alot of ammonia in it and it tasted like shit, hardly got me high, and I'm pretty sure really unhealthy.

But you usually don't have to worry about stuff like that too much I think
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 04:15:26 am
Who made ace admin?

i am a drug dealer and i just want to make sure that you all heed juris' advice because we lace weed all the time

i love to put  expensive drugs into inexpensive drugs just for shits and giggles
I dunno...if you really wanted those customers to come back it could be economically feasible given the situation.

It won't eliminate cartels it will only make what they do legal plus some big corporation could start growing marijuana and that would drive several home growers out of business (not good)
I think we would drive the cartels out of business -- it would be produced here at such a huge rate. There's no need for the cartels to ship anything in at all (which iirc is a sizeably expensive part of that type of business). As for the home growers, it should be possible for them to get a license to sell. It would be kind of like today, where supermarkets and farmer's markets coexist (in terms of produce).

As for the argument that people won't buy corporate weed just b/c they don't want to pay taxes, the penalties for illicit sale alone would discourage those dealers.

no offence but it sounds like you've never done a single drug in your life. also, please don't turn this into a legalize marijuana discussion.
None taken -- it's exactly what I've said. But, yeah, sorry about the thread derail. It was just something that popped up in conversation the other day.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 04:26:36 am
This is kind of a terrible idea. start with ~2-3 grams. It's possible to have complete loss of self at under 4 grams.

IDK dude, there's the giggly feel like a little kid effect you get off light doses, then the full out trip from what you would expect from a stronger dose. But then again, unike weed when it comes to shrooms it's pretty different from each batch you can get.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 03, 2009, 04:29:43 am
You could grow tomatoes in your cupboard and get a license to sell them but that doesn't mean you can make a living growing tomatoes, however if extensive tomato farming was illegal and there was a demand for them you could certainly  live growing cupboard tomatoes

And if the idea of going to jail doesn't stop people from selling drugs I don't think anything else will
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on August 03, 2009, 04:33:36 am
Really though where I live mostly drug dealers have nothing to worry about for the most part. They're pretty common, in fact one of my best friends sell weed and coke on a daily basis and the possibility that he can get arrested is never really thought about. But idk, maybe that's Canada for ya.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 04:43:12 am
You could grow tomatoes in your cupboard and get a license to sell them but that doesn't mean you can make a living growing tomatoes, however if extensive tomato farming was illegal and there was a demand for them you could certainly  live growing cupboard tomatoes

And if the idea of going to jail doesn't stop people from selling drugs I don't think anything else will
Heh, so you're proposing law against corporate weed monopoly? I'm sure that's possible.

That's a good point -- the type of person we're talking about is definitely a factor in this. Even so, that type of person probably wouldn't withstand repeated lawsuits + loss of a house and car. Hard lawsuit is worse than incarceration because it not only affects you, but your family too. Not that I'm saying that most drug dealers are family men, but imo being someone's money bag bitch is worse than doing time. Plus, you could charge for criminal offence on top of that, so it's like a double whammy.

Ah Canada. I'm definitely moving there if our economy tanks.

EDIT: Aw shit, The One's reading this and he's caught me being an evil bastard conservative fml I'm not posting here anymore.
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Post by: The One on August 03, 2009, 04:47:35 am
great thing bout living in this tiny lil country called holland is; weed and softdrugs is more or less endorsed. the laws here are a bit unclear. also got some pretty good coffee shops down here.

i ain't never touched that shit myself though, smoking addiction is enough for me
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 04:51:02 am
Does Holland have marijuana bars? Or was that Denmark?
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Post by: Farren on August 03, 2009, 04:52:48 am
you cannot get addicted to weed the thing stopping you is getting high not any risk of addiction
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 03, 2009, 04:56:31 am
Heh, so you're proposing law against corporate weed monopoly? I'm sure that's possible.

That's a good point -- the type of person we're talking about is definitely a factor in this. Even so, that type of person probably wouldn't withstand repeated lawsuits + loss of a house and car. Hard lawsuit is worse than incarceration because it not only affects you, but your family too. Not that I'm saying that most drug dealers are family men, but imo being someone's money bag bitch is worse than doing time. Plus, you could charge for criminal offence on top of that, so it's like a double whammy.

Ah Canada. I'm definitely moving there if our economy tanks.

EDIT: Aw shit, The One's reading this and he's caught me being an evil bastard conservative fml I'm not posting here anymore.

I'm just saying to keep it illegal and do nothing about it if it's just someone growing it in his backyard (unless it's a huge backyard)
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Post by: The One on August 03, 2009, 05:05:41 am
Does Holland have marijuana bars? Or was that Denmark?

i think there are some, don't know much details bout that though
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Post by: datamanc3r on August 03, 2009, 05:37:32 am
*30 minutes later* Ahahaha! Sorry about that, I confused you with "The Truth!" (hence the conservative = evil comment).

GO AWAY GW!
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 03, 2009, 05:39:28 am
The truth is a lunatic anyway
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Post by: Pulits on August 03, 2009, 05:40:10 am
I think drugs are fine, as long as you never abuse them. I'm also in favour of drugs legalization.

Does Holland have marijuana bars? Or was that Denmark?

Yeah, Holland has marihuana bars, known as koffeshops.
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/24626/pulitsweed.jpeg)
Here's me in one of them. Smoking pot of course.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 03, 2009, 06:19:10 am
mmm, well, i am careful with drugs because my sister is a drug addict who has had several bad overdoses and i don't want to end up like she was, living on the streets and doing heroin and cocaine every day. i don't support drug use in general because i know developing addictions is a terrible thing. in terms of personal experience, well...

i'm currently on 30mg of Paxil per day as an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication, and i have 20mg Xanax pills that i can use as needed. for a while, i was really stressed and i became addicted to Paxil and Xanax, where i was regularly taking a lot more than i should have. there was a day that i took a lot of Xanax when i got home from school, and i fell into a really deep sleep for 18 hours straight, missing school the next day (because my mom absolutely could not wake me when she tried and alarms were no use). around that time i was also selling my various prescription medicines to some people at school. nowadays i've gotten a bit better about my habit of abusing and selling my meds, though.

i've never smoked weed but i guess i wouldn't mind trying. my lungs are kind of bad though so that would be my only concern. also, i don't want to spend a lot of money on it or be using it a lot, especially not when i have important school stuff to attend to. well whatever i'll probably be trying it soon; it's becoming easy to access since me and my friends are going through high school. some friends have offered, and i'll probably end up doing it sometime just to try it.

in terms of other things... well, i've tried salvia once. it was kind of on accident, hah. but umm that was interesting, to say the least. short-lived though and kind of terrifying. might do it again. i've also done dramamine-- yeah the motion sickness stuff. for those who don't know, it can be a powerful hallucinogenic if you take like 9 to 12 of them. it's really crazy... definitely something to have a trip-sitter for.

oh i used to take loads of robitussin all the time. i kind of got mentally addicted to it, i guess. so i was doing it pretty often. eventually, though, my body got sick of it and i couldn't keep it down anymore (it is pretty disgusting). so that was that, and i haven't done it since. i probably won't do more because it was pretty gross and not worth it i guess.

nitrous oxide is pretty cool too. actually, i get it every time i go to the dentist because i have a history of really bad anxiety with doctors of all sorts. the stuff you get at the dentist is the best quality there is, so i actually enjoy appointments there now. really interesting stuff-- the ceiling changes colors, you feel like you're floating, you focus on smaller background noises rather than whats important, sounds repeat... i ended up going home and i tried to use the nitrous from whipped cream cans to get high. it's okay but not really a good idea (food particles get in the lungs, and food-grade nitrous just isn't as good as professional-use stuff), so i don't really do that now.

i think that's about all there is with my drug experiences... but yeah so basically they're a part of my everyday life and they're all around me these days. i don't really know what my view on drugs, especially illegal ones, is. basically, i just don't want to get arrested or addicted. maybe i'll have other things that i try in the future, just for the experience of it, but hey maybe not. i don't really know~
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Post by: dragonx on August 03, 2009, 06:51:49 am
when i smoke weed i can feel my eyes turning red and my blood pressure lowering :|


is that normal??
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on August 03, 2009, 07:04:30 am
mmm, well, i am careful with drugs because my sister is a drug addict who has had several bad overdoses and i don't want to end up like she was, living on the streets and doing heroin and cocaine every day. i don't support drug use in general because i know developing addictions is a terrible thing. in terms of personal experience, well...

i'm currently on 30mg of Paxil per day as an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication, and i have 20mg Xanax pills that i can use as needed. for a while, i was really stressed and i became addicted to Paxil and Xanax, where i was regularly taking a lot more than i should have. there was a day that i took a lot of Xanax when i got home from school, and i fell into a really deep sleep for 18 hours straight, missing school the next day (because my mom absolutely could not wake me when she tried and alarms were no use). around that time i was also selling my various prescription medicines to some people at school. nowadays i've gotten a bit better about my habit of abusing and selling my meds, though.

i've never smoked weed but i guess i wouldn't mind trying. my lungs are kind of bad though so that would be my only concern. also, i don't want to spend a lot of money on it or be using it a lot, especially not when i have important school stuff to attend to. well whatever i'll probably be trying it soon; it's becoming easy to access since me and my friends are going through high school. some friends have offered, and i'll probably end up doing it sometime just to try it.

in terms of other things... well, i've tried salvia once. it was kind of on accident, hah. but umm that was interesting, to say the least. short-lived though and kind of terrifying. might do it again. i've also done dramamine-- yeah the motion sickness stuff. for those who don't know, it can be a powerful hallucinogenic if you take like 9 to 12 of them. it's really crazy... definitely something to have a trip-sitter for.

oh i used to take loads of robitussin all the time. i kind of got mentally addicted to it, i guess. so i was doing it pretty often. eventually, though, my body got sick of it and i couldn't keep it down anymore (it is pretty disgusting). so that was that, and i haven't done it since. i probably won't do more because it was pretty gross and not worth it i guess.

nitrous oxide is pretty cool too. actually, i get it every time i go to the dentist because i have a history of really bad anxiety with doctors of all sorts. the stuff you get at the dentist is the best quality there is, so i actually enjoy appointments there now. really interesting stuff-- the ceiling changes colors, you feel like you're floating, you focus on smaller background noises rather than whats important, sounds repeat... i ended up going home and i tried to use the nitrous from whipped cream cans to get high. it's okay but not really a good idea (food particles get in the lungs, and food-grade nitrous just isn't as good as professional-use stuff), so i don't really do that now.

i think that's about all there is with my drug experiences... but yeah so basically they're a part of my everyday life and they're all around me these days. i don't really know what my view on drugs, especially illegal ones, is. basically, i just don't want to get arrested or addicted. maybe i'll have other things that i try in the future, just for the experience of it, but hey maybe not. i don't really know~

AND THEN I TURNED 13
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 03, 2009, 09:44:35 am
i'm going to be trying acid and shrooms some time in the next two weeks, any advice?

Pack a couple of xanax just in case things get a little out of control with the acid because if you've got good stuff things will get very intense. It also kinda depends on the sort of person you are, I'm a pretty introspective and somewhat self-critical kinda guy with a ton of things going on in my life and when I took it all of those thoughts and concerns I'd just kinda pushed aside in my mind came right out in full force during the initial rush and almost became unbearable right before I started peaking and then everything was amazing.

Be somewhere familiar where you feel entirely safe and treat your brain to classical music. Beethoven's symphonies on acid are probably some of the most exciting things you could possibly listen to.
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Post by: jamie on August 03, 2009, 11:14:07 am
I am open to trying most drugs but I don't have the interest in it to actively seek them out. I have done DXM, MDMA and weed and that is all. DXM was cool the first time, just made me sick and go insane for a while the second, MDMA was great until I got drunk and weed just makes me a little naseous and dough-headed (but not in a pleasant way). I'd be most interested in doing MDMA again because I think I fucked a good experience up by getting drunk.

I'd probably end up getting addicted to something if I got too into the whole thing, though, so I am wary of addictive drugs.

It feels like my brain chemistry is messed up, too, so when people say a particular kind of drug is intense it just scares me more than anything else because I think I would full-on lose my mind if I done too much. Basically, I doubt I could handle it.
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Post by: Carrion Crow on August 03, 2009, 01:00:41 pm
Oh not this topic again.

Let's compare stupidity dicks!
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Vellfire on August 03, 2009, 01:06:51 pm
Does Holland have marijuana bars? Or was that Denmark?

I'm assuming it's Holland if anywhere.  From what I remember reading, marijuana is illegal in Denmark, and though there's a community called Christiania that used to openly sell marijuana they don't anymore.  I've read you can still get it pretty easily there, there's just not MARIJUANA STANDS out in the streets.

That's all I got for this topic  :welp:

edit:  thought this was 'humorous'

Quote from: Christiania Wiki page
In 2002, the government began aiming to make the cannabis trade less visible. In response, the cannabis sellers covered their stands in military camouflage nets as a humorous reply.
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Post by: JMickle on August 03, 2009, 01:19:40 pm
I'm assuming it's Holland if anywhere.  From what I remember reading, marijuana is illegal in Denmark, and though there's a community called Christiania that used to openly sell marijuana they don't anymore.  I've read you can still get it pretty easily there, there's just not MARIJUANA STANDS out in the streets.

That's all I got for this topic  :welp:

edit:  thought this was 'humorous'

yeah i went to denmark a year ago and copenhagen is like the CLEANEST place you ever see, then you head into christiania and its ridiculous. If i saw that place in england i would head. out. of. there. but it was a load more friendly than it looked. but there was weed everywhere. absolutely everywhere. you go inside on of the bars and you would get high just by breathing.
there was this little market that was specific parephenalia shit it was joke. but there were signs everywhere saying NO PHOTOS i guess thats the government making it 'less visible'
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Post by: Vellfire on August 03, 2009, 01:23:12 pm
yeah i went to denmark a year ago and copenhagen is like the CLEANEST place you ever see, then you head into christiania and its ridiculous. If i saw that place in england i would head. out. of. there. but it was a load more friendly than it looked. but there was weed everywhere. absolutely everywhere. you go inside on of the bars and you would get high just by breathing.
there was this little market that was specific parephenalia shit it was joke. but there were signs everywhere saying NO PHOTOS i guess thats the government making it 'less visible'

Yeah, from what I've read about Christiania it seems kinda SCARY but when you go there the people are actually pretty nice and not too horribly weird.  It seemed like they were just trying to not be HORRIBLY blatant about the weed anymore though, as in you don't just walk in and see thousands of stands with huge signs saying "WEED HERE COME BUY IT".
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Post by: JMickle on August 03, 2009, 01:34:14 pm
Yeah, from what I've read about Christiania it seems kinda SCARY but when you go there the people are actually pretty nice and not too horribly weird.  It seemed like they were just trying to not be HORRIBLY blatant about the weed anymore though, as in you don't just walk in and see thousands of stands with huge signs saying "WEED HERE COME BUY IT".

yeah we didnt see anyone buying/selling weed but everything was rainbow colours and every other guy was smoking it.

but yeah friendliest place i been
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Post by: Marge on August 03, 2009, 02:03:40 pm
I've read Danish government is trying to bring to whole place down piece by piece. Stripping them of their autonomy, getting the ownership of the houses privatised, that sort of stuff. A shame if you ask me, I would be pretty proud if we had a huge hippie commune in the middle of the capital.
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Post by: Mateui on August 03, 2009, 03:00:09 pm
If anyone has questions about prescription drugs I can help out. Unfortunately we don't learn much about street drugs in Pharmacy school so I really can't help out in that regard. (We did do a random lecture about the pharmacokinetics of marijuana for some reason though... one of the weirdest classes I can remember.)
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Post by: Von Woofen on August 03, 2009, 03:16:18 pm
Took some 2CE at Ricketts Glen at the beginning of the summer (http://images.google.com/images?ei=Uf52StOiKoK4NYqw-bAM&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=ricketts%20glen&resnum=0&sa=N&tab=wi&um=1) One of the coolest things I've ever done. My dumb ass got drunk that morning and only brought one bottle of water for me and my girlfriend, but we ended up just drinking the creek water, which actually turned out fine. The place is unreal though. It's an 8 mile hike up and down the mountain but there is a waterfall every 5 minutes or so, and it had just rained for about 2 weeks straight so everything was shiny and there was even more water than normal. Probably the best trip I ever had.
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Post by: Farren on August 03, 2009, 04:53:51 pm
hey does anyone have a link to a site that sells spice?

I want to check it out online before I go out and try to buy it, see if I can get it cheaper online because the smoke shops around here charge out the ass.
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Post by: Evangel on August 03, 2009, 06:16:46 pm
If anyone has questions about prescription drugs I can help out. Unfortunately we don't learn much about street drugs in Pharmacy school so I really can't help out in that regard. (We did do a random lecture about the pharmacokinetics of marijuana for some reason though... one of the weirdest classes I can remember.)

What is up with aspirin and alcohol mixing together to cause stomach bleeding?  I've always wondered that.
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Post by: DDay on August 03, 2009, 07:32:18 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/pub/24626/pulitsweed.jpeg)

I love this Pic for one fact and one fact only witch is that he is siting right behind a no smoking sign.

Also I can honestly say I never did a drug in my life other then alcohol and I don't plan to BTW.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on August 03, 2009, 07:59:51 pm
it's by will alone that i set my thoughts in motion, though sometimes i use a bit of the juice (of sapho). my thoughts aquire speed, my lips aquire stains and those stains become a warning. but it's by will alone i set my mind in motion
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on August 03, 2009, 08:01:55 pm
I used to be addicted to Marijuana and Dope. I was pretty bad. I would smoke so much I couldn't see straight and I'd pass out. Once I smoked a whole weed leaf. Rehab was hell but it was worth it, for my family. I had real major withdrawel and I still get cravings every now and then.
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Post by: Madolah on August 03, 2009, 08:41:54 pm
Avid Pot smoker, I smoke it in many ways many times a week. I rate Gravs as my favorite tool to get high, and then bongs then joints.
Ive done Salvia and Kratom other than that and well I can totally tell you if you do salvia right it can be a great trip. I found little effect to the kratom.

I do plan on doing LSD sometime in the future and I have friends who've done it before. It's actually safer than you think.
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Post by: blood hell on August 03, 2009, 08:45:16 pm
smoke weed very often, i have an awesome dealer who smokes me out all the time and gives me good deals on other stuff
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Post by: Evangel on August 03, 2009, 08:46:02 pm
Has anyone tried Fly Agaric?  It's sold legally at my local head shop.  I've heard some say it's similar to shrooms, and others say it's a horrible trip.
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Post by: Marmot on August 03, 2009, 09:30:41 pm
ive done shrooms, salvia, pot, and dxm

shrooms was awful.
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Post by: jamie on August 03, 2009, 09:36:51 pm
I used to be addicted to Marijuana and Dope. I was pretty bad. I would smoke so much I couldn't see straight and I'd pass out. Once I smoked a whole weed leaf. Rehab was hell but it was worth it, for my family. I had real major withdrawel and I still get cravings every now and then.

You fucking tricked me for half your post...If there's one thing, I CAN'T stand...it's a stupid trickster like you. Think you're big? Probably think you're pretty clever, tricking us all like that with your 'comedy'. Well guess again, bucko: This just In: 2005 called and: Fuck you.
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Post by: Tau on August 03, 2009, 11:27:10 pm
I used to do quite a few drugs during school. I still smoke weed every now and then but it used to be acid, that air spray shit, Nos, Party pills, speed, shrooms nothing really serious. Never really tried the serious stuff like Cocaine, Heroin, P, etc.

Been offered P and stuf but never found myself interested in fucking my life up over a quick fix. I don't even think you can get Cocaine in New Zealand though.
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Post by: Farren on August 03, 2009, 11:36:03 pm
whats p

I smoked that pep or spice shit and it was dafuckin bomb
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Post by: Tau on August 03, 2009, 11:39:50 pm
P is basically the New Zealand equivalent of Meth.
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Post by: Alec on August 04, 2009, 12:28:58 am
Has anyone tried Fly Agaric?  It's sold legally at my local head shop.  I've heard some say it's similar to shrooms, and others say it's a horrible trip.
That's amanitas mushrooms right? From what I understand if it works for you its more like a deliriant than a psychadelic so that would be a pretty bad trip if you weren't expecting it.
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Post by: ATARI on August 04, 2009, 12:41:03 am
I've done pot and like cough syrup and that kind of shit as a joke, but I've never done anything for anything more than recreational use, and I don't go out of my way to find it, although if I know some people going out for a good time, I'll gladly take a hit.
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Post by: Mateui on August 04, 2009, 02:12:22 am
What is up with aspirin and alcohol mixing together to cause stomach bleeding?  I've always wondered that.
Aspirin and other anti-inflammatories like Ibuprofen (Advil) and Naproxen (Aleve) work by inhibiting the production of prostaglandins. There are two major types of prostaglandins - those involved with pain and inflammation, which when inhibited allow for pain relief and an anti-inflammatory effect to occur. (This is what you want to happen when you take these drugs). Unfortunately, there are also prostaglandins that are involved in protecting the stomach lining from the acidic environment. These drugs also affect these prostaglandins and as a result increase your risk of ulceration. The risk is very small HOWEVER so many people use aspirin and ibuprofen regularly that it is quite a big problem.

Alcohol contributes to the problem in an indirect way by increasing the production of stomach acid and thereby aggravating an existing ulcer.
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Post by: JMickle on August 04, 2009, 04:49:43 pm
hey mateui do you know anything about omeprazole?
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 04, 2009, 05:54:14 pm
Mateui I've got this problem... well... I think it would be easier to show you... somewhere private.
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Post by: Mateui on August 04, 2009, 06:30:39 pm
Mateui I've got this problem... well... I think it would be easier to show you... somewhere private.
:laugh: I've had this happen in real life. This elderly gentleman was looking for a bandage and just pulled his pants down so that I could see it. Nothing phases me anymore. There was this one time where I got to see a gangrenous finger. Very cool in a sickening way.

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hey mateui do you know anything about omeprazole?
Yeah, I sure do! Don't know what your question is about it, but I am very well versed on PPIs and most GI medications.
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on August 04, 2009, 08:56:09 pm
Mateui... :fogetgasp:
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 04, 2009, 09:10:48 pm
Someone photoshop mateui's face onto that picture of house flippin the bird with his dick out
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Post by: JMickle on August 04, 2009, 09:46:49 pm
Yeah, I sure do! Don't know what your question is about it, but I am very well versed on PPIs and most GI medications.

well my dad takes it for some reason or another but i dont know what it does, really. I'm not worried but I'd like to think i'm helping you by keeping you up to scratch on your medications :fogetcrazy:
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 04, 2009, 09:50:45 pm
When you want to know what a medication does google it's name
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Post by: JMickle on August 04, 2009, 10:08:12 pm
but I'd like to think i'm helping you by keeping you up to scratch on your medications
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Post by: Kaempfer on August 05, 2009, 04:12:04 am
When I used to play through Oblivion I collected all sorts of mushrooms so I'm a mushroom expert


I concocted all manner of potions (mostly restore fatigue potions to get my alchemist skill up) so if you want to know about potions (esp. restore fatigue potions) just let me know
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Post by: Hempknight on August 05, 2009, 04:21:50 am
Beethoven's symphonies on acid are probably some of the most exciting things you could possibly listen to.

Describes my first acid trip to the t, sir.

I'm a regular weed user, legal in California under Prop 215, the wonderful medical marijuana legalization act. The whole medical user thing is a joke though, I could have walked into the clinic and said "GIMME WEEEEEED", and they still would have written me the prescription.

I got my med card for recreational use, but I found out it helps me sleep better than the Ambien I was taking, and with less grogginess in the morning...

...So I sold that shit for 10 bucks a pill and went and bought more weed. And something from the bakery at the weed store.
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Post by: Farren on August 05, 2009, 05:57:47 am
how did you get the med card? what was your excuse?
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Post by: Immakinganaccountk on August 07, 2009, 06:23:01 pm
I'm thinking of rolling cocaine up and smoking it any tips
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Post by: Evangel on August 07, 2009, 07:33:48 pm
I've smoked the shit before, on a weed blunt, and it's crazy.  Woke up in a puddle of my own blood and diarrhea.  Your call.
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Post by: Farren on August 07, 2009, 07:37:58 pm
Hey I found a place you can get that pep spice for 10$ a gram online fuck the head shops they ripped me off bigtime
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Post by: Evangel on August 07, 2009, 08:02:10 pm
yeah man, psych shack is running a racket.  if you get a hold of that, let me know if it's quality. 
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 08, 2009, 03:28:23 am
I'm thinking of rolling cocaine up and smoking it any tips
seems like a waste to me. If you want to smoke coke, you may as well smoke its freebase(crack) and get your money's worth.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 08, 2009, 03:29:17 am
how did you get the med card? what was your excuse?
you can twist your ankle playing ultimate frisbee and get a medical marijuana card in sothern california
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Post by: Faust on August 08, 2009, 03:30:27 am
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seems like a waste to me. If you want to smoke coke, you may as well smoke its freebase(crack) and get your money's worth.

Smoking crack is a FUCKLOAD more addictive than smoking coke. The latter doesn't automatically totally fuck your life up for this very reason.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 08, 2009, 03:33:24 am
Well I'm not recommending he go and get hooked or anything, but if you're gonna smoke that stuff do it right.

otherwise, just put it up your nose like the rest of us

BTW, I've smoked crack before(while drinking 40's, thug lyfe) and it didn't automatically fuck up my life. It's intense tho
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Post by: Faust on August 08, 2009, 03:36:52 am
You have to be a fairly strong character for it to not instantly grip you.  However, the addiction rate compared with cocaine is phenomenal.

Also: smoking has a different effect to snorting. Snorting is a lot more transcient.

(Please note, I am in no way condoning drugs. Also: I speak from an outsider's perspective and am in no way saying that I have ever done drugs of any kind).
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Post by: Farren on August 08, 2009, 04:13:37 am
YES YOU HAVE YOU CANT KID ME

I KNOW IT I KNOW IT YOU DRUGGIE YOU

edit: just like all the other b*sers
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Post by: Evangel on August 08, 2009, 10:09:41 pm
You can do crack/coke/heroin one time and never touch it again.  It takes at least a few consecutive doses for the addiction to really grip you.  There are also social factors that lead to that.  Money, time, friends who do it often, or being in a position to buy and use it.  I say this because I have done it before and never again saw it or thought about it, but later in high school my friend and I met this dealer next to the school.  Being young and bored, it became pretty routine for a while, just something to do after school.  Eventually you become MORE bored when it's not there to give your afternoon that edge.  It's a VERY slippery slope, and I'm glad I finally made the conscious decision to stay the hell away from it.  Luckily it's not widely available around here, otherwise God knows how many people I know might be stuck on it.
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Post by: Immakinganaccountk on August 08, 2009, 11:21:13 pm
By the way guys I was trolling. Thanks for the tips, though.
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Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on August 09, 2009, 06:44:31 pm
I don't do drugs, and I plan not to. This is mainly because addiction is bodily harmful and I like to think that I have some measure of control over my body/mind.

Pretty much this.
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 09, 2009, 06:46:06 pm
Teach you that at bibble camp, pussy?
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Post by: Faust on August 09, 2009, 07:03:15 pm
Dude, I have to teach kids that kind of shit. Like "HEY KIDS DOPE IS FOR DOPES" and shit.

Good ol' PSHE!!!

If some of it is sinking in, as expressed by Juris over there, then that is good surely? Like it's a harsh fact but DRUGS ARE NOT FOR EVERYONE. Some people use them as an excuse to tear down the walls around their own sanity. There are a fair few weak minded people out there who should not under any circumstances ever touch drugs.
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Post by: Farren on August 09, 2009, 11:29:17 pm
and who are you to decide who should and who shouldn't?

Its their decision to make and its no ones right to tell anyone they shouldn't do it.

Yeah if you aren't mentally capable of handling something that temporarily changes your state of mind then you prolly shouldn't be messing with it but who knows what you're mentally capable of taking and dealing with better than you?

Also telling all the children to stay away from the shit because its evil and will kill you mind then hoping that bullshit works is naive as fuck and never works except with the incredibly naive few that buy it.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on August 09, 2009, 11:54:49 pm
that's right coxswain, let's tell all the children it's a-okay to do drugs and expect to keep our jobs
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 10, 2009, 12:09:51 am
that's right coxswain, let's tell all the children it's a-okay to do drugs and expect to keep our jobs

This is a strawman coxswan just said it's their decision to smoke crack or not, not that people should tell their kids it's ok to smoke crack

But then

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who knows what you're mentally capable of taking and dealing with better than you?

It's safer just to assume that you're not (because then you won't waste your time smoking crack rocks)
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Post by: Faust on August 10, 2009, 10:56:44 am
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and who are you to decide who should and who shouldn't?

I'm not deciding anything myself. I'm doing my job. My post was in direct reference to the fact that, simply put, SOME PEOPLE SHOULD NOT FUCKING DO DRUGS.

I also really fail to see how I'm "deciding" for anyone. It isn't like I'm POSSESSING THEM.
Oh, although if I was, I'm a legally appointed AGENT OF THE GOVERNMENT :D​!!! That's where I draw my right to educate chidlren about drugs from really.

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Its their decision to make and its no ones right to tell anyone they shouldn't do it.

I think this could be highly debated. Society/Legislation would state that, actually, it ISN'T your right to take anything you want. It IS however my 'right', and in fact my DUTY, to discourage drug taking amongst children.
As I say, it is totally NOT their right to take things that are illegal. Hence, you know, the whole legal system? Whether you agree with it or not, if you can be punished for doing something then it is not YOUR RIGHT to do it. We live in a time when people REALLY misrepresent the nature of what "rights" means.

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Yeah if you aren't mentally capable of handling something that temporarily changes your state of mind then you prolly shouldn't be messing with it but who knows what you're mentally capable of taking and dealing with better than you?

I think you'll find that many people are very deluded concerning the strength of their own minds. I've known many individuals (including a few closer to home than others) who've thought they were perfectly capable of enjoying ecstasy, coke, crack and heroin. They weren't. One spent two months doing nothing but taking ecstasy, for example, which caused a deterioration in their lives like I'd never seen. Now AS STATED EARLIER I am not saying this happens to EVERYONE.

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Also telling all the children to stay away from the shit because its evil and will kill you mind then hoping that bullshit works is naive as fuck and never works except with the incredibly naive few that buy it.

It DOES work with some. And, as I say, when you're a professional you have to work with the guidelines given to you. I have a friend who trained with me who was pretty much a born leader. Everyone loved him, he's a fucking MAJOR hit with kids, and he has a FANTASTIC beard. He had a high profile job before he decided to retrain, and he's pretty much on the fast-track accelerational promotion program at the moment. We had a conversation about drugs - he's scared shitless of them, thus won't try anything harder than a bit of pot. It works on other people than THE NAIVE few.

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that's right coxswain, let's tell all the children it's a-okay to do drugs and expect to keep our jobs

Exactly. Whatever my true feelings, I have a RESPONSIBILITY. Oh, also, promoting drugs to children really makes you a scumbag.

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This is a strawman coxswan just said it's their decision to smoke crack or not, not that people should tell their kids it's ok to smoke crack

The majority of points that are made at GW, or indeed ON THE INTERNET, are Strawmen. I fail to see why this one was worth picking up on!
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Post by: Farren on August 10, 2009, 03:54:23 pm
You know the law means jack shit when it comes to actual drug use right? That the people doing the stuff don't take the law into consideration because they're already past that point? The "law" is completely hypocritical and riddled with bullshit when it comes to drug policy and if they've got you teaching and spreading those bullshit policies to kids. when they get a little older they'll remember that and throw everything you told them out the window.

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that's right coxswain, let's tell all the children it's a-okay to do drugs and expect to keep our jobs

And I figured I wouldn't have to come back to this because I figured no one would be so fucking stupid as to think I condone children taking narcotic substances.

It is not your right to tell children drugs are horribly evil substances that if consumed will destroy their lives instantaneously. That is not your right. That is not the US governments right. And that damn sure isn't the education systems right.

We do not know enough about most of these substances and addiction and mental outcome rates because they're ALL FUCKING ILLEGAL and research can't even be conducted. If we don't know exactly whats going on with this stuff and the people using it then by my understanding, we have no right "as a society" to preach the maliciousness of it.

In my opinion if we're going to do drug education in schools we should wait until the kids are old enough to understand what drugs actually are and why people use them before driving hypocritical policy into their heads. Then, actually teach them the REAL harmful effects that can be caused by SOME substance abuse and not the made up bullshit they teach kids now to scare the living shit out of them.
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Post by: Faust on August 10, 2009, 04:59:52 pm
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You know the law means jack shit when it comes to actual drug use right? That the people doing the stuff don't take the law into consideration because they're already past that point? The "law" is completely hypocritical and riddled with bullshit when it comes to drug policy and if they've got you teaching and spreading those bullshit policies to kids. when they get a little older they'll remember that and throw everything you told them out the window.


The validity of the law wasn't the issue, or its affect on drug usage. We were talking about 'rights', even if that is a little abstract. My point was that, in the eyes of society and the legislative system, it IS in fact my 'right' to educate youngsters about the negative effects of drugs, and by the same token it is NOT the individual's 'right' to take any substance that is classed as illegal. As I say, it was a point about RIGHTS (as clearly mentioned in my post), thus whether it has an effect or not is a totally seperate issue.

In YOUR eyes maybe I don't have the right, but in that case what are you currently doing about it? Do you regularly campaign for the legalization of drugs at all? Have you ever been to a rally?  I have. However, as attempts have been unsuccessful at the present, I'm afraid that it is still not an individual's 'right' to take narcotics and find out for themselves. I know this is true of my country, and I know that it is true of your country.

Oh, on the side note of your 'LAWS DON'T MEAN SHIT MAN' point: You'd be surprised at the number of people who avoid taking part in crime because of the fear of punishment.  You're right, some kids think "Fuck society" and throw whatever they've learnt out of the window. However, they aren't the majority by a LONG way.


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In my opinion if we're going to do drug education in schools we should wait until the kids are old enough to understand what drugs actually are and why people use them before driving hypocritical policy into their heads. Then, actually teach them the REAL harmful effects that can be caused by SOME substance abuse and not the made up bullshit they teach kids now to scare the living shit out of them.

In actuality we have very well balanced drug teaching here. We explain the positive effects, as well as the negative. Then we give personal advice. If the kids respect you, they take your advice on board. And, as I say, I know a fair few people who won't try drugs based on what they learnt at school. The 'leader' guy I mentioned earlier even firmly believes that a single pill of ecstasy can kill. He's totally wrong, of course, but education he received has therefore totally put him off even experimenting with harder drugs than cannabis.

I was a little lighthearted in my 'DOPE IS FOR DOPES' earlier. We actually give a very balanced view in PSHE here. WITH that balanced view, there are a lot more negatives to drug taking than not. Bearing in mind, we were actiually discussing coke, crack and heroin.
Even so, to condone drug taking is to receive disciplinary action, as it should be. People in positions of responsibility who suggest breaking the law as a viable option are punished, as they should be. Have you heard of a thing called 'Section 28'? It was a piece of legislation here that made it illegal for teachers to 'promote' homosexuality as a valid 'lifestyle choice'. Many teachers disagreed with the policy, as it was quite homophobic in its nature. However, they were forced to OBEY THE LAW in order to keep their jobs, including doing nothing about homophobic attacks and bullying. People campaigned against it, and eventually it was repealed. So, like I say, campaigning is ALWAYS an option in this argument - if you don't like how it is, go and change it. Otherwise, you can't expect people to risk their jobs just to enforce an agenda that you personally believe in.

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We do not know enough about most of these substances and addiction and mental outcome rates because they're ALL FUCKING ILLEGAL and research can't even be conducted. If we don't know exactly whats going on with this stuff and the people using it then by my understanding, we have no right "as a society" to preach the maliciousness of it.

Again you come back to 'right'. My government actually DOES do research on how drugs effect people, and they're able to do this due to the fact that drug users don't really go to jail here unless they are also dealing it, or caught with a substancial amount. They receive treatment and counselling, or a lot of the time a very small fine. So yeah, we get a fair amount of research done. To the point where we even had a popular documentary that showed three heroin addicts in a treatment centre. One died pretty horribly.
We had the same documentary with alcoholics, so it isn't like BIASED AGAINST DRUGS or anything.
Even if you believe the government ideas to be absolute bullshit, like with the recent reclassification of cannabis from a Class C to a Class B over here, and the idea that it CAUSES psychosis (rather than activates it in certain individuals), there's a fair amount of anecdotal evidence available concerning harder drug users. For every younger drug user I speak to who is having a blast and doesn't see any negativity in drugs at all (aside from the old morishness and comedown), there's another who has been affected in an extremely negative way. My cousin, for example, who has had his house and our grandmother's house raided after completing the cycle heroin user - heroin dealer. Or an older friend of mine (in his 50s now) who stabbed another friend about a year back while on a ketamine binge. Thankfully he got some community service, as the guy who was stabbed testified that it was entirely down to the drug, but he has a criminal record now and has still not really forgiven himself. How about a guy I know who was doing a law degree, smoked pot throughout (which has the effect of making a person blissfully content to just relax) and then had to become a teacher instead? I think that education probably wouldn't have helped that guy, but it can't hurt right?  I could go ON AND ON with this list. The point I'm making isn't ALL DRUGS ARE BAD TO ALL PEOPLE. It's that there's pretty extensive evidence that drugs often cause severe problems for people. Thus, a balanced education when it comes to drugs must INCLUDE these problems.

It isn't 'scare tactics' - it's the truth. Scare tactics would be "E WILL KILL YOU". Scare tactics ISN'T "You'll be on the street sucking people off for smack money" when it comes to heroin, as you only have to walk the streets of any major city here at night to find that this has unfortunately come true for a fair few people.

However, in closing, nothing that has been said has detracted from my original point like at ALL: Some people aren't cut out to handle drugs. They can really fuck their lives up. Who am I to decide who should and who shouldn't? I'm not deciding for them -they'll make their own mnds up. I'm just giving them a helping hand in order to hopefully avoid screwing their lives up.


As I say, based on your posts, it seems that I inhabit an entirely different system to yourself. But I sincerely believe that you cannot teacher children about drugs without relaying the negative effects with aren't purely related to the physical effects.
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Post by: Alec on August 10, 2009, 05:07:36 pm
In actuality we have very well balanced drug teaching here. We explain the positive effects, as well as the negative. Then we give personal advice. If the kids respect you, they take your advice on board. And, as I say, I know a fair few people who won't try drugs based on what they learnt at school. The 'leader' guy I mentioned earlier even firmly believes that a single pill of ecstasy can kill. He's totally wrong, of course, but education he received has therefore totally put him off even experimenting with harder drugs than cannabis.

He's not naive, he just thinks that any amount of drugs can kill you/ruin your life immediately after taking them? okay.
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Post by: Alec on August 10, 2009, 05:10:32 pm
also rights and legal rights are different things.
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Post by: Faust on August 10, 2009, 05:23:59 pm
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He's not naive, he just thinks that any amount of drugs can kill you/ruin your life immediately after taking them? okay.

It's naive to believe something a respected elder tells you? So if this is the ONLY thing he took on face value, that still makes him naive? Even though he's cold and cynical when it comes to religion, for example?
And no, he believes that a single ecstasy tablet can kill. There's a huge difference between that and what you said. We had a huge awareness campaign here over a girl named Leah Betts, who died after taking a single pill. Fair enough, that was pretty much because of overheating and then overdrinking rather than the drug itself, but it was a pretty huge campaign, obviously backed up by teaching in schools. Therefore, despite your sarcasm (which added a lot, by the way, go you!), I would actually agree with your statement that he isn't naive at all.

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also rights and legal rights are different things.

Care to expand upon that? We have human rights due to legislation. In fact, all rights we have are ONLY rights because they are enshrined in legislation. Unless you're using some abstract concept of 'rights', with no meaning outside of the subjective.

Like I could say that it is my right to be naked 100% of the time. That wouldn't stop me being arrested and maybe jailed if I turned up to school naked. I could say that it's my right to eat sushi every day. If I didn't have the money, I couldn't afford to. As I say, can you expand upon your point there? The single sentence fraction you posted doesn't really explain your belief on this matter very well, or really add to our discussion.

Like I say - either campaign to change the law, and do what you want with a free conscience, or sit on your ass talking about 'rights'. Either way is good.
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Post by: Farren on August 10, 2009, 05:35:56 pm
He is naive when it comes to drug use and if you want to narrow it down then yes, he is naive when it comes to ecstasy.

Also by "rights". I mean it is my right as a human being to take whatever the fuck I want and put it in my veins or my mouth or my lungs if I so choose it despite the law if need be and despite whoever thinks I'm killing myself or trying to eat away my sanity or whatever the hell.

The law is a guidline for people to follow to remain peaceful and civil, I don't need it (and I personally don't think anyone needs it until its reformed) when it comes to drug awareness and policy, so fuck it I'm breaking the law.
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Post by: Faust on August 10, 2009, 05:42:57 pm
The argument wasn't whether or not you'd break the law. It was about 'rights'. Saying you have the 'right' to do whatever you want doesn't make it so.

Naivity is a character trait, much like gullibility. It seems like it's being used negatively in this context - that he is somehow wrong for being naive. If you'd used the word 'ignorant', I'd totally agree with you. However, the word 'naive' was used. I don't believe him to be a naive person at all, although I understand what you're saying.

What about the rest of my post?

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Also by "rights". I mean it is my right as a human being to take whatever the fuck I want and put it in my veins or my mouth or my lungs if I so choose it despite the law if need be and despite whoever thinks I'm killing myself or trying to eat away my sanity or whatever the hell.

However unjust the law, you cannot say "IT IS MY RIGHT TO DO IT!" It isn't enshrined in human rights law is it?

As I say, if you are campaigning to change the situation then fair enough. As you don't seem to be though, how can you sit around and say 'it's my right to do it'. It's also the government's right to throw your ass in jail if caught right? By that logic, it must be! After all, we all have the right to do whatever we want!

I don't approve of drug users being given custodial sentences, and thankfully my government doesn't tend to do that really. However, yours does - would you agree that it is your government's right to throw you in jail if they catch you? Or are these universal self proclaimed rights only for yourself?

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The law is a guidline for people to follow to remain peaceful and civil, I don't need it (and I personally don't think anyone needs it until its reformed) when it comes to drug awareness and policy, so fuck it I'm breaking the law.

Did you learn that in lawschool!?!?!? I think you'll find that the POINT of the law is, in fact, to HAVE a society, not just for people to be civil. You don't need the law in any form until it's reformed? Or were you specifically talking about drug law?
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Post by: Allen Hunter on August 10, 2009, 06:32:07 pm
Drugs are bad, m'kay. 'Nuff said.
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Post by: Farren on August 10, 2009, 06:39:34 pm
Yes my right to take in narcotic substances is self-given if you want to call it that. Just like for the millions of other people that choose to do the same thing in spite of governed law it is also a self given right.

I realize the threat of jail time or fines or whatever but I still do it in spite. That is my protest for right now, because thats all I can do to protest at the moment. There are no grassroots movements for drug legalization in my area that I know of. In fact the only protest movements that I know of at all are those stupid teabaggers, so you could probably guess how likely it would be to find a legalization rally in bumfuck.

But I travel alot and as soon as I come across one of these rallies or whatever yes, I will be out there holding a blunt and picket sign as soon as I can find either one.
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Post by: Faust on August 10, 2009, 06:57:35 pm
Dude, if your argument is that you CAN do it then we have no cause for disagreement. I'm only really disagreeing with the definition of 'right'. If we're talking self-given rights then yeah.

I hope you notice that AT NO POINT I said that anyone was an idiot for doing drugs, or definitely shouldn't do drugs. I was merely positing that many can't actually 'handle' them, as well as defending my position with regards to drug education.

Like if you DO do drugs then that's totally your own choice. I personally don't believe you should be punished for it, but like I say - I don't make the laws. I don't agree with a lot of them either, truth be told, and like I say - I have taken part in rallies, so I think that we're very similar in terms of the 'morality' of this issue.

I just don't like the term 'rights' banded about, as if they are universal and should be recognised by everyone.

I can also understand that legalisation movements are probably not as forthcoming over there as they are here. They aren't BRILLIANT here to be fair, but at least there's SOME trying hehe.
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Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on August 10, 2009, 08:50:31 pm
Teach you that at bibble camp, pussy?

I've never been Bibble Camp.  Or Bible Camp for that matter.

Never felt the need to do them.  Drugs, that is, not Bibble/Bible Camp.  That simple.
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Post by: Wash Cycle on August 11, 2009, 05:23:08 am
man there is not enough actual talkin about drugs in this thread

who has tripped balls recently
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Post by: Farren on August 11, 2009, 06:35:41 am
not me but I hella want to
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 11, 2009, 07:00:27 am
naw, I'm done with tripping for a while. Last time I did I was confronted with some really strange shit and I think I'd be fine if I never went that far from reality ever again.

also faust is right, some people just shouldn't do drugs at all
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Post by: Evangel on August 11, 2009, 07:25:54 am
Man, can somebody please Fed-Ex me some quality hallucinogens?  I don't think I'll find them here ever again.

naw, I'm done with tripping for a while. Last time I did I was confronted with some really strange shit and I think I'd be fine if I never went that far from reality ever again.

That's how I feel pretty much every time.  Granted, it's been over a year since I've had the opportunity, but I always come back to it.  I'll feel really strange for a few days, but I return to baseline with at least one new concept that never would have occured to me otherwise.  I think it's a beautiful thing, even if it is scary for a while.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 11, 2009, 08:05:26 am
ugh today i wanted to relapse on xanax so bad. i was alone and in public and i thought i was gonna get raped and kidnapped and murdered by every little old lady i saw. i used to be so full of xanax that nothing ever phased me but now when i have social anxiety its worse than it was before, gaaaah. but whatever i dont want to get back into that, so. probably gonna smoke weed sometime soon. or drop some dimes (dramamine). i'm stressed.
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Post by: Hundley on August 11, 2009, 08:18:34 am
i only do dxm, and i only do so because it helps me write and brainstorm. it's strange because pretty much everyone else i've ever known cannot formulate legitimately coherent and useful thoughts on dxm, whereas dxm for me is an outstanding creative stimulant that allows me to reach portions of my psyche that are usually inaccessible, without doping me too severely. it's particularly useful for writing things that are abstract or surreal, but sometimes you can reach profoundly real levels of emotional understanding, which is particularly useful for purely dramatic writing and conceptualization. truth be told, i guess i consider the effect dxm has on me as being part of my writing arsenal. that's pretty embarrassing the more i think about it, but then again, the pulitzer committee doesn't do olympic-style drug testing for performance enhancing drugs so fuck it. come and get me motherfuckers.

with a few exceptions, i don't ever take it simply for the sake of getting high, and even then i always manage to squeeze some sort of worthwhile creativity out of it. i think the last time i did it to just GET HIGH was when i met chef and ramci, and they were kinda curious what it was like to EXPERIENCE HUNDLEY. but even then, i ended up going home and completely conceptualizing an entire videogame that i ended up being extremely fond of(even when sober), so it wasn't like i was just fucking around on it.

anyway, i don't take dxm with too much frequency anymore. usually just when i have some time set aside for it and i think it will contribute to whatever it is i'm working on. i'm currently novelizing faceless, and it has a section or two that will be strengthened by a touch of the dxm-brain.


PS i am not writing this post to really suggest people go out and start chugging bottles of cough medicine. i am the dxm CHOSEN ONE and you are probably not, so don't bother wasting your time unless you're prepared for the very real possibility of spending an evening throwing up and having unpleasant imagery of your empty, selfless life flashing furiously on your eyelids. ALSO ALSO ALSO if you are set on doing it DO NOT EVER drink cough medicine that has anything but dxm in it. EVER. if you see another active ingredient, or anything but dextromethorphan hydrobromide, put it down and keep looking. best case scenario is that the extra shit just makes you throw up everything you've ever eaten and fucks up the high, WORST CASE SCENARIO is that you fucking die. also there's apparently a variant of dextromethorphan hydrobromide called Dextromethorphan polistirex that is appearing in cough medicines now. don't do that shit either. it is a big fucking waste of time and i've heard is pretty terrible for you.

THIS HAS BEEN HUNDLEY'S YEARLY DXM POST.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 11, 2009, 08:57:26 am
Man, can somebody please Fed-Ex me some quality hallucinogens?  I don't think I'll find them here ever again.

That's how I feel pretty much every time.  Granted, it's been over a year since I've had the opportunity, but I always come back to it.  I'll feel really strange for a few days, but I return to baseline with at least one new concept that never would have occured to me otherwise.  I think it's a beautiful thing, even if it is scary for a while.
yeah but this time was different from the others. It's been a couple months and I'm still pretty shaken by it.

I'm fairly certain I've seen the bottom of the rabbit hole with DMT and there's really nothing else hallucinogens can show me anymore
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Post by: Alec on August 11, 2009, 01:47:50 pm
I ate a bunch of morning glory seeds a few days ago. it's pretty cool, really euphoric, and you can see things but you're in control of it.
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Post by: Farren on August 11, 2009, 05:07:22 pm
hundley why don't you try something a little more powerful that isn't nearly as nasty? Wouldn't shrooms or a small hit of acid do the trick alot better, I figure if thats the way you trip thats the way you're gonna trip regardless of what you take.

And DXM is a pretty shit way to do it from what I've heard.
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Post by: Faust on August 11, 2009, 05:33:01 pm
Hundley I will not trust anything you say on the matter since you got that job as dextromethorphan hydrobromide based cough medicine salesman!!!
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Post by: o333091 on August 12, 2009, 06:49:46 pm
Let's see...

I smoke some weed occasionally, I don't really ever get high or anything unless it's laced with hash or it's a medical product. 

I was addicted to crystal meth throughout my whole tenth grade year in high school...that was some pretty bad stuff; it was the first time I was truly addicted to anything.  It's been about 7 years since, and I'll definitely never do that again.

I've also tried ecstasy one time...I ended up staying up the whole night.  Ecstasy was a lot like taking meth except much stronger and longer lasting.  Some people tell me that ecstasy IS a form of meth, but I've never done my research to see if it's true or not.

My friends and I recently tried acid too.  It made us all act stupid as hell.  It also made us fairly paranoid; I remember thinking every car behind me was a cop car.  And of course it made us trip like we've never tripped before.  Everything was breathing and melting.

And the most recent drug I've tried is cocaine.  Coke is pretty interesting.  It'll make your heart beat fast and you'll feel happy and completely euphoric, as if nothing in the world matters and all you wanna do is just continue feeling good.  But the high will only last for 20 to 30 minutes, and then there's the "come down".  Coming down off of coke could be very different depending on how pure the product is.  If it wasn't that pure, coming down could make you despondent and depressed.  Pure cocaine will leave you feeling normal and not so depressed when coming down.

For the record I've never shot anything up.  I'll never do that.  Sniffing powdered drugs is where I draw the line  :fogetbackflip:

FYI: Everything I just talked about is based on my own personal experiences with these drugs.  For all I know, it could be different for other people.
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Post by: Alec on August 13, 2009, 03:23:09 am
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. It's got a methamphetimine molecule but so do a lot of ADHD medications. It's not the same thing as crystal meth although speed and crystal meth are often adulterants in tabs. "pure" tabs are generally less speedy than ones with speed in them. The main reason to take them is the way they make you feel open and trusting.

EDIT: just for the record if you say the tabs were "a lot like meth" there's a good chance they had meth in them.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 13, 2009, 10:25:31 am
Some people tell me that ecstasy IS a form of meth, but I've never done my research to see if it's true or not.
Well ecstacy's full name is Methylenedioxymethamphetamine but what your friends were probably referring to is the fact that almost all pressed pills of E on the street are cut with speed because meth is really cheap compared to MDMA.

pure MDMA is a blast if you can get your hands on it, I won't settle for anything less.


EDIT: DURRRRR WHAT HE SAYZ ^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 02:25:12 pm
Man Coxswain I cannot at all understand you being so pissed at kids being told not to do drugs.  Don't you realize that the kids in question are typically at an age where they make TERRIBLE DECISIONS ALL THE TIME?  The few who are responsible are smart enough to make their own decisions and aren't going to be affected by the talks anyway, and the rest will hopefully listen because they aren't going to be these responsible drug users you think they will.  We're not talking about reasonable adults, we're talking about dumbass kids that are probably going to fuck it all up.  I don't see any reason that these people SHOULDN'T be told not to do drugs, because they definitely aren't going to do a good job with that choice.

Especially since saying "hey drugs are bad" is nothing at all like KEEPING THEM from doing what they're gonna do anyway.  It's a suggestion if anything.  But somehow teachers are the worst people for doing it.
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Post by: Farren on August 13, 2009, 05:39:48 pm
No because in my experience when kids first start being told about drug awareness and staying away from them is that dare shit in elementary school.

Right now my cousin is on probation and although he does not smoke weed he lives with my brother that does and my cousin's girlfriends ten year old kid will rat anyone out he sees with marijuana anyone that talks about marijuana and anyone that smells like marijuana because he is a stupid fucking tot that doesn't know anything about the shit and shouldn't know until he's old enough to understand it. All he knows is its bad and people who do it are bad and he needs to tell someone because its bad. He does not understand what marijuana is or why people do it.

That isn't drug education thats kid snitch conditioning


I just think that if they're going to teach it in schools they should wait until middle school when its most likely that kids are going to do that shit and tell them FLAT OUT TRUTHS ie: heroin can cause hiv because of shared needles and is very addictive and dangerous, coke is very addictive/dangerous, meth, crack ect...
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 05:52:21 pm
But you're missing the point, of course an elementary school kid should be told not to do marijuana:  because THAT KID doesn't need to be.  Kids don't do well with grey areas, so you kind of HAVE to just tell them yeah it's wrong.  Kids don't understand "marijuana is wrong when you're your age but when you get older well maybe or maybe not depending on how responsible you are" etc, because kids think they are grown up enough to do anything.  Kids are BORN snitching, they are gonna do it!  The topic just depends on what they think they can get someone in trouble with.  I told on my brother all the time for anything, as did almost any kid.  It's the only way kids have of dealing with older siblings or anyone else--appeal to a higher authority by snitching.  You aren't thinking at all about how kids work when you say it's HORRIBLY WRONG THAT WE DO THIS.  Kids are even worse decision makers than teens, and chances are seeing big bro smoking is gonna make the kid want to.  I'd rather kid tell on him than TRY SOME FOR THEMSELVES.  This is what kids do!

It's not like it's really brainwashing shit anyway because kids believe all sorts of things that they grow out of (ever heard of santa claus?  keeps those kids behaving the rest of the year because they aren't old enough to understand that being good should just be the default)
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Post by: Farren on August 13, 2009, 05:55:13 pm
give me an 8 year old that can get in contact with a dealer
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 05:59:48 pm
Kids are told all the time not to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. See how well it works?
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 06:00:20 pm
Why does the kid need a dealer if it's already in their house like you showed with your example?

Plus, if a kid can't get it then what does it matter if they're told it's bad?  It doesn't affect their choices since they can't make any anyway.
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Post by: Faust on August 13, 2009, 06:02:14 pm
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give me an 8 year old that can get in contact with a dealer

You're obviously, as I've already pointed out, not from the UK. You'd be surprised at what age children are often subjected to the world of drugs here.


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Kids are told all the time not to drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. See how well it works?

It works well for those that don't touch them. Saying it doesn't work because some kids do it anyway is kind of misisng the point of personalised education. If you tell the negative effects of alcohol/smoking to a class, and even one child doesn't do either as a result, then it's a good thing.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 06:20:16 pm
It works well for those that don't touch them. Saying it doesn't work because some kids do it anyway is kind of misisng the point of personalised education. If you tell the negative effects of alcohol/smoking to a class, and even one child doesn't do either as a result, then it's a good thing.

Maybe but think about it kids are told that drinking (for example, it could be using anything else) is evil all the time when they're kids but when they grow up most of them start drinking anyway  :fogetshrug:​ 

It's not going to work if it's seen as something cool to do amongst their group and the individual doesn't have a trauma against it
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 06:25:55 pm
If it's not going to work then why is it wrong to do?
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 06:26:53 pm
If it's not going to work then why is it wrong to do?

Waste of time and resources
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Post by: Faust on August 13, 2009, 06:30:29 pm
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Maybe but think about it kids are told that drinking (for example, it could be using anything else) is evil all the time when they're kids but when they grow up most of them start drinking anyway  

It's not going to work if it's seen as something cool to do amongst their group and the individual doesn't have a trauma against it

Dude, we don't do it like that over here. We tell them the EFFECTS of drinking; morality never enters into it whatsoever. We still tell them not to do it, but we try to have more reasoned approaches, emphasising that it is NOT FOR CHILDREN!!!

Of course some students will always do it, and this is actually becoming more frequent nowadays. That doesn't mean we should STOP educating them about it though.


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Waste of time and resources

You could just as easily say that, since under 50% of students gain qualifications in this country, teaching OVERALL is a waste of time and resources. After all, it 'doesn't work' on the majority.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 06:59:49 pm
Dude, we don't do it like that over here. We tell them the EFFECTS of drinking; morality never enters into it whatsoever. We still tell them not to do it, but we try to have more reasoned approaches, emphasising that it is NOT FOR CHILDREN!!!

Of course some students will always do it, and this is actually becoming more frequent nowadays. That doesn't mean we should STOP educating them about it though.


I'm not saying to stop doing anything that prevents them from entering the cruel world of addiction but if what you're doing is not working then it's better to stop trying. If you have something that is reliable and actually keeps people from using drugs rather than just letting them know that drinking causes heart attacks or meth causes tooth loss then go ahead

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You could just as easily say that, since under 50% of students gain qualifications in this country, teaching OVERALL is a waste of time and resources. After all, it 'doesn't work' on the majority.

You could say that if you wanted to but the thing is, Drug Education Does Not Prevents People From Doing Drugs and there are studies that prove just that

http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=ED071011&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=ED071011
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This is a research project that was intended to study the effects of a factual drug education program on the attitudes on high school and junior high students toward the use of psychoactive drugs. The approximately 250 eighth and twelfth grade students involved in the study filled out a number of questionnaires designed to measure a variety of their attitudes about psychoactive drugs immediately before and after participating in a drug education program that relied heavily on the presentation of known facts about a variety of drugs. Analysis of the data indicated that the students learned about the given drugs to a highly significant degree, their curiosity about the effects of "mind-expanding" drugs was increased, and they exhibited an increased tendency to deal with psychological discomfort through the use of drugs. At the same time they reacted more favorably toward the legalization of marijuana and a reduction of penalties for drug use, and less favorably toward present emphasis on a legal approach to the use of drugs. The primary conclusion of the study is that drug education is not an effective means of suppressing the use of drugs. References and numerous tables are included. (Author)


The study is from 1972 by the way feel free to point out why it's wrong etc ( I haven't even read it to know what they mean by factual drug education)
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Post by: Faust on August 13, 2009, 07:32:22 pm
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I'm not saying to stop doing anything that prevents them from entering the cruel world of addiction but if what you're doing is not working then it's better to stop trying. If you have something that is reliable and actually keeps people from using drugs rather than just letting them know that drinking causes heart attacks or meth causes tooth loss then go ahead


Like I say, it does work in many cases. You personally believe that children SHOULDN'T be educated about drugs at all, and should find out from their peers?

I've already commented with a few examples earlier in the thread where this, has in fact, happened. I have very good friends who won't even try drugs due to the education they received at school, regardless of whether or not it was 'honest' (as it wasn't when I was at school myself). If you read back, you can see these examples. Like I say, your charge that it doesn't work at all and it is a waste of time is ridiculous. I do appreciate what you say at the end - for example, visits by ex-heroin addicts have done wonders, and their anecdotes have changed a few students' perceptions about drugs. But yes, education is education. Stopping it just because a few kids won't take it on board would be terrible.

Also 'giving up trying' shows that you REALLY don't understand the nature of teaching hehe.

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You could say that if you wanted to but the thing is, Drug Education Does Not Prevents People From Doing Drugs and there are studies that prove just that

Erm, no. You totally missed my point. Drug education doesn't stop ALL people from doing drugs, but it does STOP SOME.

Because you have produced a graduate paper in this topic from your hat, it does not prove that drug education is TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE whatsoever. There've been studies that show EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE to this study - that's the beauty of these kinds of "studies". In fact, if we have a look at current drug education policy in my country:

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"It is important drug education is based on evidence about what works and what clearly does not work. Many drug education programmes have been evaluated in this country, other European countries and America. Collectively they show that:

•The impact of drug education on drug using behaviour has been shown to be limited. Drug education alone is unlikely to prevent young people from ever experimenting with drugs.
•‘Just Say No’ and ‘shock/ scare’ approaches are likely to be ineffective and may even be counterproductive.
Good quality drug education can impact on changes in specific drug using patterns and reduce the use of drugs and associated problems for young people.
Drug education can contribute towards decreased harm and increased safety for young people, their families and communities. Drug education has been part of effective needle exchange schemes, ‘safer dancing’ initiatives and ‘drink-driving’. However, the impact of more general, and particularly school-based, drug education on reducing drug-related harm (rather than whether or not people have ever used drugs) has not been measured in any studies.
‘Establishing the effectiveness of drug education is a complex task. Almost all evaluations of programmes have been inconclusive in terms of perceived results in reducing or preventing drug use. Where programmes have shown positive results, the benefits have been in improved knowledge, decision-making skills, and improved self-esteem. Personal and social skills, however, have not been shown in themselves to relate directly to the prevention of drug use’. "

'Protecting Young People - 2008' , DfES.

So yeah, studies are INCONCLUSIVE. Some say that drug education alone doesn't work (notice the word ALONE), some say that drug education raises the standards of living for communities.

It's amusing that people who state that drug education is a WASTE OF TIME, as if they know more than the people making the policies on the issue. Just because it doesn't work on SOME students does not mean that it's a waste of time.

Besides, even if they do use, at least they're EDUCATED about the effects. No one can say "I JUST DIDN'T KNOW!!!".


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The study is from 1972 by the way feel free to point out why it's wrong etc ( I haven't even read it to know what they mean by factual drug education)

Aside from the fact that it's entirely based on the flawed research of SURVEYS COMPLETED BY MINORS IN THE SEVENTIES? That's where it draws its data - forms filled out by students themselves. We were subjected to such an ordeal when I was in school myself, based on a paper about sexual abuse. A fair few of us wrote down humorous sexual encounters on the survey, even though we were all totally lying. One friend even said he was raped by his dog. Immature? Yes, but we were children. And children lie on forms.

When filling out a survey with "DID DRUG EDUCATION MAKE YOU NOT WANT TO DO DRUGS", how many do you really think are going to reply "YES I WILL NEVER NOW" when filling it out? Absurd.

Plus, lest we forget, children lie pretty constantly. So yeah, while this survey-based 'study' might have SOME value in the debate, it really isn't the be all and end all that proves drug education to have no effect whatsoever.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 08:30:16 pm
I'm not going to reply to all that because I'm not good at debating but I'm not saying that each and every drug education whatever is completely useless and should be terminated, I just said that telling kids not to do drugs (like velfarre said but it was marijuana which is mostly harmless) doesn't work at all and is a waste of time. OK, maybe knowing the evil effects of (insert drug) will keep someone from using it but only if they're not peer pressured into it
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 08:33:54 pm
OK, maybe knowing the evil effects of (insert drug) will keep someone from using it but only if they're not peer pressured into it

You say this like peer pressure always works.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 08:37:06 pm
You say this like peer pressure always works.

Hahahah because it does

Velfarre: "It didn't WORK FOR me"

Maybe for you it doesn't but for everyone else it has a 90% success rate

Like, I know plastic bags are evil and you should use the reusable cloth ones but I use the plastic bags anyway because everyone else I see is also using them. This is probably not peer pressure but people will do not so good things just to fit in with the rest which is what I meant
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Post by: Kaworu on August 13, 2009, 09:07:08 pm
is that really your excuse for using plastic bags and not plain lazyness/convinience?
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 13, 2009, 09:12:47 pm
Hahahah because it does

Velfarre: "It didn't WORK FOR me"

Maybe for you it doesn't but for everyone else it has a 90% success rate

Like, I know plastic bags are evil and you should use the reusable cloth ones but I use the plastic bags anyway because everyone else I see is also using them. This is probably not peer pressure but people will do not so good things just to fit in with the rest which is what I meant

uhh i don't think that's about peer pressure, that's more about convenience and being part of the majority. peer pressure would be like if everyone you knew was telling you it's not COOL to use cloth bags or whatever.

i'm just speaking from personal experience really but i don't think that peer pressure is as big of a deal in terms of drug use as people say it is. like, it's only an issue if the friends you grew up with turn into druggies. there are plenty of people who don't do drugs and their friends don't either. for them it's simply an issue of "do i want to risk ruining my life or not?" because they know there's a very real possibility of being caught with illegal drugs.

i do drugs but i don't really have many friends who do. my primary friend group all tells me not to. i experiment with drugs because i get stressed or anxious and they make me feel better or they're fun. but i realize that they're still "bad". not immoral, but just unhealthy mentally and often physically. not many people know that i do this stuff, so it's definitely not to "be cool" or whatever.

i think drug education is a good thing. even if it doesn't make kids NOT DO DRUGS, it lets them know the negative things that they would never hear elsewhere. it tells kids that it's okay to say no to things they don't want, which is an important skill for everyone. i think that telling kids the bad things about drugs works, because hey, we don't see the majority of students going off and shooting up heroin or becoming addicted to meth or crack. they're taught honestly how addictive and damaging those are. it's important to at least give kids the information, and then its up to the individuals to decide whether to heed it or not.

for example, i will never smoke cigarettes. we had a unit in science class where they showed us all this anti-smoking stuff. it was really sad to see people who had holes in their tracheas, tumors from lung cancer, raspy voices, etc... i don't want to take the risk that i could turn out like that. the slight "buzz" you get from cigarettes is not good enough to warrant having a lifetime addiction to it. i was disgusted by all the crap that i learned they put in cigarettes. plus, i'd feel horrible knowing that my second-hand smoke could bother people and affect them. there were plenty of people who ignored that unit completely and went on to smoke, but i'm not one of them. besides, even the people who DO smoke will still remember that stuff from class. it's not that they don't KNOW the bad possibilities, it's just that they choose to ignore them. but knowing is still important, and so teaching it is important too.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 09:15:12 pm
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Post by: fatty on August 13, 2009, 09:17:36 pm
How come you seem so "experienced" with drugs while you're just fifteen years old? Should I read your earlier posts in this topic, because this just baffles me for some reason.SATAN
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Post by: Kaworu on August 13, 2009, 09:19:08 pm
I never got smoking. Like it gives you a cough, and that's at. Like I enjoy being drunk or high, but when trying fags it was just like *cough cough* and no effects at all. What's the point?

Fatty,  there are 10 year olds addicted to meth. Loads of my friends were on drugs by 15, it can't be that suprising.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 09:24:30 pm
is that really your excuse for using plastic bags and not plain lazyness/convinience?

Yes I even have a cloth one and could use it but at the market everyone else I see is using the plastic ones and when I take the plastic ones I think about the turtles and seagulls I'm about to kill
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: fatty on August 13, 2009, 09:43:07 pm
Fatty,  there are 10 year olds addicted to meth. Loads of my friends were on drugs by 15, it can't be that suprising.
I dunno, maybe I live in a bubble of endless supreme glee and ignorance or something. I don't find it weird, I guess I just think it's uncommon for some reason.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 09:45:22 pm
Yes I even have a cloth one and could use it but at the market everyone else I see is using the plastic ones and when I take the plastic ones I think about the turtles and seagulls I'm about to kill

you are a very weak person then
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 13, 2009, 10:38:46 pm
Drugs are bad m'kay -- mr mackey, south park elementary counsellor.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 10:40:17 pm
you are a very weak person then

I could still beat you and your whole family up
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Post by: Farren on August 13, 2009, 10:51:19 pm
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I could still beat you and your whole family up

OHHHHHHH SHTI
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Post by: Cray on August 13, 2009, 11:11:38 pm
I tried poppers today :)
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Post by: Bobberticus on August 13, 2009, 11:12:03 pm
alcohol is my drugs.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 13, 2009, 11:18:56 pm
I could still beat you and your whole family up

you and what army?  :fogetlaugh:
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 13, 2009, 11:26:15 pm
you and what army?  :fogetlaugh:

Just me buddy name a place and time and I'll fight all of you

but you have to pay me 50.000 dollars first
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Post by: Brad on August 15, 2009, 06:51:07 am
I never got smoking. Like it gives you a cough, and that's at. Like I enjoy being drunk or high, but when trying fags it was just like *cough cough* and no effects at all. What's the point?


I grew up with my parents constantly smoking, I never saw the point and I completely hated it.

I was like this for a long time, then when I started smoking pot my friends suggested that having a drag or so enhances the effect of weed. To this day I am unsure whether it does or not, but it sure felt like it. I suppose it could of been the head rush, which is another thing that surprised me about it. I think eventually I tried smoking on my own out of curiosity of the head rush.. And I got "something" out of it. Like idk, just made me feel relaxed and something else I can't put my finger on. Soon enough, I smoked when I drank and smoked weed and eventually just started smoking. It started casual but got pretty bad.. now I'm trying to slow down. My dad's dad died of a heart attack, his mom of a heart attack, his brother just died at 45 from heart attack, and on my moms side my close uncle died at 40 from you guessed it, heart attack. He was one hell of a character.. RIP
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Post by: Brad on August 15, 2009, 07:21:45 am
Off topic but not really, here was my ecstasy story from a little while back. I just reread it, and took a trip down memory lane. This almost makes me want to start a journal or blog or something but I'd probably never have the motivation to do it

Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: the bloddy ghost on August 15, 2009, 07:35:58 am
i've never done any drugs. not even weed. a few of my friends smoke weed and my sister does, they've asked me but I just said "no I don't really want to." I just don't really see the point in it for myself. My parents and my sisters smoke cigarettes, and it just never seemed really appealing to me and was more of a really annoying habit. It just seems like a really annoying habit to me. my mom also turns into a horrible person to be around when she doesn't get a cigarette after a couple hours. my dad is a lot less dependent on cigs and he actually quit for the last couple months.

i do drink about once or twice a month, i enjoy doing so. i like beer way too much not to. gin and whiskey is wayy too good not to. the amount of alcohol some of the people i know drink just disturbs me though and makes drinking look very unappealing to me.

what's funny is that since I've turned 21 I've been drinking less. i got pretty drunk at my sister's wedding and gave a toast. don't remember what I said but i must have said something that wasn't inappropriate.



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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on August 15, 2009, 08:01:51 am
skimmed all your life stories to say the DARE program is not only ineffective but counterproductive and you probably shouldn't do any drugs at all while you're still developing. ideally you wouldn't need to use drugs at all so maybe telling kids DRUGS ARE BAD IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES is good
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on August 15, 2009, 12:52:23 pm
ive been getting drunk too much these days
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 15, 2009, 12:53:07 pm
at the same time, I've been flossing more than ever. 2-3 times a day!
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Post by: Evangel on August 15, 2009, 06:33:56 pm
I took my friend's Concerta at the bar last night.  I felt pretty bOsS (like a bawss) all night, makes me energetic/intense, yet collected.  I slept for about one hour this morning, just couldn't do it.  I'll be crashing hard pretty soon here.  I don't see how so many people take this on a daily basis.

Is anyone here prescribed Concerta or Adderal? 
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 16, 2009, 01:36:40 am
that shit is basically controlled-release amphetamines
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Post by: Mateui on August 16, 2009, 01:45:28 am
that shit is basically controlled-release amphetamines
This man speaks the truth!

We pretty much learned in school that everyone would do better on a stimulant for their attention span. Although Evangel, do you know what dose you took?
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Post by: Evangel on August 16, 2009, 02:54:51 am
I think it was 10-15 mg.  I can attest, it's totally amphetamines.  It's like having a mild cocaine buzz for hours on end.  It really drains you afterwards, too, whether you can sleep or not.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 16, 2009, 10:36:49 am
This man speaks the truth!

We pretty much learned in school that everyone would do better on a stimulant for their attention span.
lol i guess that explains why every guy i know in pharm and med programs takes adderall for their all-night study benders
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Post by: Wash Cycle on August 16, 2009, 02:12:48 pm
man.. maybe I should get my hands on some adderall or strattera or somethin

cause right now when my attention wanes while studying I just smoke a bowl and while it works sometimes, most of the time its counter productive
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on August 16, 2009, 02:32:16 pm
yeah, ADD medicine will have you studying/working like a madman and loving every second of it.  It's great for writing papers.  It's pretty addictive to some people, though.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 16, 2009, 03:14:23 pm
wc, you should try not smoking a bowl.
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 09:10:21 am
 Wow, first time I did weed yesterday. A total disappointment at first, I had thought. I don't smoke so I didn't know how to get the "fumes" in my lungs properly.

After a bit of instructing by my fellow stonemates(there were girls there) I finally got the hang of it and then it hit me:

Not really.

 Weed is good, but it's pretty average at best. At least my experience with it was. I tried to relax and just look at the fucking sky and everyone around me was all "YEEEAH MAAAYN YOU'RE TRIPPING SHITTLESS MAAYN" and this annoyed me in a pleasant "I-want-to-faceplant-you-to-the-floor" kind of way(a girl tried to convince me I was a stoner because I have long hair(there were girls there)). I totally wasted my chance to relax by slowing down my thought processes to the way that I had pretty much been able to actually listen to my thoughts so clearly that I was actually PLANNING THIS VERY POST. "Heh, you guys, I smoked pot. Like one whole time, feh heh". It was otherwise really relaxing and pleasant. The smoke didn't hurt my throat as much as a regular cigarette(I remember the first time I tried to smoke, it was Dunhill I think, and it was shit, everybody that smokes dunhill cigarettes should die a horrible painful death(not really.))



Also a guy brought absinthe right after we had finished watching the orange island ark in pokemon. It was okay I guess, but the fucker didn't even bring the proper ingredients, he was like "JUST DRINK IT AS-IS YOU PUSSY" but it tasted like alcohol with dishwashing water so fuck that, I'll drink it with ma sugar and ma water.


I am positively sure I am still stoned to an extent.

EDIT: It was eight hours ago so it doesn't really count as yesterday but whatever.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on August 23, 2009, 05:33:20 pm
I tried to relax and just look at the fucking sky and everyone around me was all "YEEEAH MAAAYN YOU'RE TRIPPING SHITTLESS MAAYN" and this annoyed me in a pleasant "I-want-to-faceplant-you-to-the-floor" kind of way

Yeah, this annoys me to no end!  Nowadays when I'm tripping in the slightest, I keep it a secret from a lot of people, just so they don't treat me any differently.  It's also kind of fun to see how long you can get away with it, especially if you're tripping really hard!
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 06:37:34 pm
Haha, I am a REALLY annoying guy in real life when it comes to explaining shit to people and weed anhanced the fuck out of my explaining skills but also apparently made everyone whine even more when I tried to explain to the drunken/stoned guy right in front of me about the concept of FAITH or whatever. He kept on saying "Boy.. you have faith in yourself... you are a strong person... you are..." and other inane bullshit but it was hillarious trying to have a discussion with anyone because there was a kid about 14-15 years old calling pretty much telling me off and calling me a fucking noob(this is serious, he actually said that) because I wasn't affected in the first try. Then again I weigh like three times he does so that was somewhat expected. Another thing I noticed is that it totally negated every effect alcohol had on me and started doing its own thing, like my stomach kinda hurt and after the effective try I even wanted to eat something. Heh, munchies, that was easy to figure out 8)
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 06:41:17 pm
I forgot what point I was trying to make but wow I still can't give a damn


I seriously can't tell if this is good or bad, I am probably not going to be smoking weed for a long time and this is probably good because, fuck.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on August 23, 2009, 06:47:51 pm
a kid about 14-15 years old calling pretty much telling me off and calling me a fucking noob(this is serious, he actually said that) because I wasn't affected in the first try

He sounds like the noob.  I remember my first time, it was at least 30 minutes after the smoking that I felt the effects (which hit me like a ton of bricks).  Kind of weird how that works.  My next couple times getting high whittled down to 15 and 10 minutes between smoking and the effects.  I guess your mind starts to understand what to expect, and it's more quickly recognized what's going on up there.

Another thing I find really annoying is the way some people treat ecstasy.  A lot of people want to sit in a pitch black room blasting techno, swinging around glowsticks and putting Vicks Vapo-Rub all over their face.  That's really annoying to me.  Most of the time I want to maybe watch the sunset, listen to something relaxing, and talk like a (semi)normal human being.
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Post by: Evangel on August 23, 2009, 06:48:49 pm
I forgot what point I was trying to make but wow I still can't give a damn


I seriously can't tell if this is good or bad, I am probably not going to be smoking weed for a long time and this is probably good because, fuck.

That's a good idea, because weed gets exponentially boring the more often you smoke it.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on August 23, 2009, 06:49:09 pm
They were just falling for the placebo effect
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Post by: Brad on August 23, 2009, 06:53:52 pm
And sometimes weed will give you the nasty anxiety side effects, which can be pretty fucking annoying.
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 09:03:52 pm
And sometimes weed will give you the nasty anxiety side effects, which can be pretty fucking annoying.
The only negative effect I had was that it made me constantly think "holyshit this isn't working, I am not normal, I must lose weight jesus christ aggh"
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 23, 2009, 09:17:56 pm
drugs don't affect me negatively like they do to other people.
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 09:32:28 pm
"negative" is subjective
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Post by: Kaworu on August 23, 2009, 09:38:56 pm
yeah weed is kinda nothing. Like I'd heard all the stories about being high and megarelaxed and shit, but when I tried it it was just, meh? is that it? It's like a slight relaxation, and that's it. I've gotten to enjoy the relaxation a bit, but I still think it's overrated.

I really want to try some shrooms, salvia and lsd. I think it'll be better to wait or those though, when I'm not living with my parents and my friends aren't all an hour away I guess!

Everybody I've asked about mushrooms in my town has only thought I was on about normal food ones from a supermarket. :welp:
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 09:45:32 pm
yeah weed is kinda nothing. Like I'd heard all the stories about being high and megarelaxed and shit, but when I tried it it was just, meh? is that it? It's like a slight relaxation, and that's it. I've gotten to enjoy the relaxation a bit, but I still think it's overrated.

I really want to try some shrooms, salvia and lsd. I think it'll be better to wait or those though, when I'm not living with my parents and my friends aren't all an hour away I guess!

Everybody I've asked about mushrooms in my town has only thought I was on about normal food ones from a supermarket. :welp:
Pan fried mushrooms can be really good. Mushrooms in spaghetti sauce are the best thing ever.

I am talking about normal food mushrooms, but try the other ones in the same manner and tell me what they're like. Wow, I just realized that yesterday was the first time I did an illegal "drug". Two actually, if you count absynthe as illegal/a drug. Baaah.
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Post by: Kaworu on August 23, 2009, 09:51:46 pm
absynthe is illegal in greece???
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Post by: fatty on August 23, 2009, 09:54:50 pm
I have no idea! It's illegal in the states as far as I know, but I don't think it's illegal here I guess.


DAMNIT, apparently it's similar to ouzo when you add water and sugar to it only it's more potent asfkjahsfkjsha fuck them guys for not having a bottle of water at six in the morning.
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Post by: Farren on August 23, 2009, 11:49:43 pm
The weed paranoia all depends on your mood imo

Also you can still smoke it occasionally and not have to worry about it getting boring or anything like that (when I smoke I smoke heavy and don't get bored of it but I also quit for long spans of time).

Also also when I smoked for the first time I didn't think it was going to hit me either but that was because I wasn't holding it in long enough (got to remember to hold it in for like ten seconds for a good hit) but yeah you should be gravy next time you do it (if you do). Evangel's right about your brain registering too, that makes alot of sense.

And when I do X I like talking alot too but my mind blows the fuck up and I start rambling on so I got to chew on some gum or smoke so I don't sound crazy.
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Post by: Kaworu on September 01, 2009, 10:01:06 pm
ok so umm lately I've been on  cool mix of tranquelizers (mild)painkillers and of course nice strong wine. It's great, it creates a cool zen-like understanding and seeing of thigns. Like you don't hallucinate but man the world becomes much clearer and I don't think I have ever been as happy and energetic and well ambitious as ever been. The tranqs are Zopiclone, they're not hard ones at all, but you take a few at once. You want it to work WITH the wine. The wine being important as it seems to not mak e agression/incomprehensible and just works with the pills to become ultimate chillaxed. man totally chill. Music becomes so much more, I am lilstening to my space-album (Master Builder) and it's like the sounds are around me, I'm wearling in fucking outer space. Like I made that album, forseeing me being prescribed a drug that'll combine with my drinkn to form the truest me. This is immense experience.!!
Downside is kinda excessive spasms, but I tend to get those anyways just worse with this.

Bacisaly 1-4 zopiclones, take witha  bottle of wine and a couple fo whatever painkillers thrown into the mix (I am unhealthy so painkillers calm down othe rproblems allowing me to relax on the high)
Though careful before use it's been known to cause amnesia, mood swings, dependency and I've also read about it causing deaths but those're I dunno I don't trust them as it's only mild-ish

Obviously I want to try harder stuff and hallucinagens but I just thought I'd let you know bout this, so if your a pussy and if you can get hold of them, it's a fun experience and a better introduction to being out of mind than that childrens stuff weed

EDIT: I've added more painkillers and I've taken some of my other tablets of origin I can't remember, it's a nice chillded cocktalee
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Post by: Farren on September 01, 2009, 11:47:01 pm
hey stupid what painkillers are you taking

good job mixing three different substances together like that its highly dangerous stupid

Edit: yeah alcohol enhances it or whatever but if you're taking an opiate painkiller you can overdose put yourself into a coma, thats a sure fire way of getting yourself killed fucking with those meds without being careful.
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Post by: Mateui on September 02, 2009, 12:55:02 am
I wouldn't mess around with stuff like that Octave Doctor... I can see you become dependent on zopiclone fairly quickly. While it was marketed as an non-dependent alternative to benzos for insomnia in practice we're finding that people get hooked on it the same regardless. And that's at a dose of 7.5 mg at night. Taking 3 times as much... man, I wouldn't mess with that. Plus you're throwing in other painkillers... I'm assuming opioids. Just bad news overall. I don't want to see you hurt yourself man.
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Post by: Ryan on September 02, 2009, 01:23:04 am
ok so umm lately I've been on  cool mix of tranquelizers (mild)painkillers and of course nice strong wine. It's great, it creates a cool zen-like understanding and seeing of thigns. Like you don't hallucinate but man the world becomes much clearer and I don't think I have ever been as happy and energetic and well ambitious as ever been. The tranqs are Zopiclone, they're not hard ones at all, but you take a few at once. You want it to work WITH the wine. The wine being important as it seems to not mak e agression/incomprehensible and just works with the pills to become ultimate chillaxed. man totally chill. Music becomes so much more, I am lilstening to my space-album (Master Builder) and it's like the sounds are around me, I'm wearling in fucking outer space. Like I made that album, forseeing me being prescribed a drug that'll combine with my drinkn to form the truest me. This is immense experience.!!
Downside is kinda excessive spasms, but I tend to get those anyways just worse with this.

Bacisaly 1-4 zopiclones, take witha  bottle of wine and a couple fo whatever painkillers thrown into the mix (I am unhealthy so painkillers calm down othe rproblems allowing me to relax on the high)
Though careful before use it's been known to cause amnesia, mood swings, dependency and I've also read about it causing deaths but those're I dunno I don't trust them as it's only mild-ish

Obviously I want to try harder stuff and hallucinagens but I just thought I'd let you know bout this, so if your a pussy and if you can get hold of them, it's a fun experience and a better introduction to being out of mind than that childrens stuff weed

EDIT: I've added more painkillers and I've taken some of my other tablets of origin I can't remember, it's a nice chillded cocktalee


lololol yes mixing different depressants is a good idea  :woop:
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 02, 2009, 02:42:07 am
It's funny, you describe being high on weed not affecting you hardly at all. But when you describe mixing tranquilizers with painkillers, the high you describe is one commonly associated with weed.

I think the problem is that you simply need some much better weed than what you've been trying. Invest in some high-grade/nuggets before dismissing the experience as "nothing". Of course then you'll have to complain about the price/availability, but that's almost always a problem when dealing with these sorts of matters. (Plus I'm fairly certain mixing weed with painkillers/whatever is a lot safer. Especially if they are things you are already prescribed.)
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Post by: Barack Obama on September 02, 2009, 04:01:06 am
Took some valium last night. Love the stuff, but I've gotta be careful with it.
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Post by: Farren on September 02, 2009, 04:22:22 pm
yes you do

I think I took valium once but I don't remember it much
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Post by: Evangel on September 02, 2009, 04:28:23 pm
i really need to find some hallucinogens soon, shrooms or acid, as they're virtually impossible to test for.  great times, a+ #1.
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on September 02, 2009, 05:08:15 pm
today i mixed painkiller with cough medicine... not recommending it.
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Post by: the bloddy ghost on September 02, 2009, 05:21:04 pm
drug make me sick
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Post by: Evangel on September 02, 2009, 05:28:28 pm
this song make me wanna take more drugs:


Ecstacy
I love you very much
G-H-B
I love you very much
Shrooms and weed
I love you very much
This is the Tech N9ne experience
A-C-I-D
I love you very much
P-C-P
I love you very much
Carabou Lee
I love you very much
This is the Tech N9ne experience
Girl: Wassup for today?
Tech N9ne: Whatever
Girl: Wanna get high?
Tech N9ne: Let's do it
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Post by: Brad on September 02, 2009, 08:54:32 pm
Currently going to soon do mushrooms for the third time with two buddies who never tried it.

It's gunna be a greaaaaat fucking night
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Post by: Beasley on September 02, 2009, 10:24:25 pm
aren't painkillers and just opiates in general super addictive? i know lots of college kids get way addicted to them and long term they fucking mess your shit up
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Post by: big ass skelly on September 02, 2009, 11:30:45 pm
You're hardcore kaworu, that's so hardcore.
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Post by: Farren on September 02, 2009, 11:37:12 pm
yeah if you're dumb about it

I take some lortabs sometimes when I can't smoke weed but I've built up a tolerance to them so I don't even bother anymore
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Post by: Pilla on September 02, 2009, 11:37:44 pm
Ah, I’m not straight edge or anything… nor am I highly religious or a better than thou type :3 that being said, I could never do drugs. I’m glass cannon physically and people always tell me I look stoned anyways. I had a close friend who was so addicted to drugs it was unreal and my first experience dealing with someone with a unsafe addiction. I mean she would literally go bug eyed at the thought of doing ecstasy or cocaine or anything of that substance and she promised to quit smoking but that didn’t even last 30 days with her!

It’s just, this topic reminds me of how some people cannot comprehend what the consequences of drug abuse could be, I’m not trying to rain on the parade or anything just sharing a little life story of someone who could have been the best friend I’ve come across, but was ultimately consumed with drug use. She gained some weight after I met her and I tried to help her, like, her old pictures she looked almost anorexic… it’s a pity, but I know, or would like to know that people with more experience won’t end up like her :(  I wonder what she’s doing now, last I heard from her my mom told me to call her because she was crying… eventually I did. The last thing she told me before I ever bothered talking to her again was “we should meet up again and get drunk” (she was also a alcoholic and went to therapy for 2 years for that and her drug use… she also knew how anti-drug I was and how it saddened me when she drank).

WELP, carry on gentleman, and no I wasn’t trying to make anyone look/feel bad. Just wanted to share that story :p

P.S : note that she when I say she was messed up I mean REALLY messed up. Like, even people who did do drugs was trying to get her some help.
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Post by: Farren on September 02, 2009, 11:47:30 pm
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this topic reminds me of how some people cannot comprehend what the consequences of drug abuse

yep. don't understand anything
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Post by: goldenratio on September 03, 2009, 03:04:29 am
what bad can come from havin a good time? i say party on *does 3 drugs*
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on September 03, 2009, 05:17:35 am
ok so umm lately I've been on  cool mix of tranquelizers (mild)painkillers and of course nice strong wine. It's great, it creates a cool zen-like understanding and seeing of thigns. Like you don't hallucinate but man the world becomes much clearer and I don't think I have ever been as happy and energetic and well ambitious as ever been. The tranqs are Zopiclone, they're not hard ones at all, but you take a few at once. You want it to work WITH the wine. The wine being important as it seems to not mak e agression/incomprehensible and just works with the pills to become ultimate chillaxed. man totally chill. Music becomes so much more, I am lilstening to my space-album (Master Builder) and it's like the sounds are around me, I'm wearling in fucking outer space. Like I made that album, forseeing me being prescribed a drug that'll combine with my drinkn to form the truest me. This is immense experience.!!
Downside is kinda excessive spasms, but I tend to get those anyways just worse with this.

Bacisaly 1-4 zopiclones, take witha  bottle of wine and a couple fo whatever painkillers thrown into the mix (I am unhealthy so painkillers calm down othe rproblems allowing me to relax on the high)
Though careful before use it's been known to cause amnesia, mood swings, dependency and I've also read about it causing deaths but those're I dunno I don't trust them as it's only mild-ish

Obviously I want to try harder stuff and hallucinagens but I just thought I'd let you know bout this, so if your a pussy and if you can get hold of them, it's a fun experience and a better introduction to being out of mind than that childrens stuff weed

EDIT: I've added more painkillers and I've taken some of my other tablets of origin I can't remember, it's a nice chillded cocktalee


how often are you doing this? that'd get expensive mighty mighty quickly.
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Post by: Marmot on September 03, 2009, 04:08:59 pm
kaworu you are the worst druggie ever
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Post by: Marmot on September 03, 2009, 04:09:56 pm
seriously whats the point of mixing half a pharmacy with alcohol in an evening. do you want to destroy your liver jesus.
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Post by: Marmot on September 03, 2009, 04:11:13 pm
weed............children stuff *mixes coke with heroine*
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on September 03, 2009, 04:28:49 pm
 :fogetgasp: i think he has listened to psychedelia too much... don't be a daft kaworu!!

makes sense though. to really understand psychedelia, to really understand stoner... o- om...
time to find some drugs.
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Post by: Farren on September 03, 2009, 04:49:26 pm
I bet he's smoking some oregeno or grass clippings
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 04, 2009, 01:40:01 am
kaworu you are the worst druggie ever

So that's who that is. (I can never keep fucking track of all you people. I must be smoking too much children's weed.)
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brown on September 04, 2009, 07:41:21 am
I tried shrooms a few nights ago for the first time. It was me and 4 guys and we just sat there smoking hookah after taking shrooms. An hour went by and nothing :/. I was so pissed off that I wasted 35 bucks rather than buying some weed. So another half hour goes by and I leave to go home. It started kicking in during the car ride back home and It was awesome! I felt like the music was amazing no matter what i was listening to. Even the radio hits were making me happy. My vision was so to speak, amplified. Well periph really. I could see the road, the steering wheel the stereo and both blind spot mirrors vividly. It felt like I was not my body, but was viewing my body from the inside. really random yeah i know. I got home and laid on my bed and tripped out on the ceiling moving all around me. Started cracking up laughing after I realized that it actually is true that ceilings can move if youre tripping out. Its a very happy high but depends on your mood i guess. After a few hours I started zoning out and thinking about randomg things and just could not fall asleep. Im going to stick to weed cus after the end of the shroom trip, i dont know what it was, but it made me feel terrible about myself and all the people in my life.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Kaworu on September 04, 2009, 08:31:01 pm
it wasn't intentional. it was accidental, but enjoyable. Apart from the adding more painkillers, which was enjoyable but not accidental. oh well. :welp:
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: otomon on September 06, 2009, 03:19:39 am
I used to do crystal meth and it was kewl but it was expensive and thats not good cause im poor ( I am from Mexico nuff said) , then my cousin recomended cannabis.. and i said sure why not.. Its okay i guess and for the same price of crystal meth you get x20 times the amount so yeah its all cool now, and i heard cannabis doesnt kill brain cells I belieive its true..but even if it wasnt who cares rigth? we are all going to die soon cause of APOFUCKINGLYPSE! arent we? Erh.. anyways in conclusion drugs are kewl and the goverment lies. tehehe. ;)

This has been a message from The Legendary Hentai Lord if you decided to quote this words be aware of the consequences it will do on your kewlness (ur going to be rly kewl n stuff rigth? lololololol
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Post by: Allen Hunter on September 06, 2009, 03:22:21 am
I used to do crystal meth and it was kewl but it was expensive and thats not good cause im poor ( I am from Mexico nuff said) , then my cousin recomended cannabis.. and i said sure why not.. Its okay i guess and for the same price of crystal meth you get x20 times the amount so yeah its all cool now, and i heard cannabis doesnt kill brain cells I belieive its true..but even if it wasnt who cares rigth? we are all going to die soon cause of APOFUCKINGLYPSE! arent we? Erh.. anyways in conclusion drugs are kewl and the goverment lies. tehehe. ;)

This has been a message from The Legendary Hentai Lord if you decided to quote this words be aware of the consequences it will do on your kewlness (ur going to be rly kewl n stuff rigth? lololololol
Fuck yeah, I'm going to be filled with "kewlness."
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on September 06, 2009, 05:31:38 pm
I used to do crystal meth and it was kewl but it was expensive and thats not good cause im poor ( I am from Mexico nuff said) , then my cousin recomended cannabis.. and i said sure why not.. Its okay i guess and for the same price of crystal meth you get x20 times the amount so yeah its all cool now, and i heard cannabis doesnt kill brain cells I belieive its true..but even if it wasnt who cares rigth? we are all going to die soon cause of APOFUCKINGLYPSE! arent we? Erh.. anyways in conclusion drugs are kewl and the goverment lies. tehehe. ;)

This has been a message from The Legendary Hentai Lord if you decided to quote this words be aware of the consequences it will do on your kewlness (ur going to be rly kewl n stuff rigth? lololololol

get the fuck out of here with this bullshit
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on September 06, 2009, 06:05:51 pm
So question, Am I aloud to post pics up of mine and my roommates bongs?  I'd like to show you 2 I made and 1 really neat thing for a gravity bong.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on September 06, 2009, 06:27:15 pm
Yes, but they're a "tobacco smoking device" maybe even a "vase."
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Post by: Madolah on September 06, 2009, 08:11:46 pm
Yes... vase with a bowl on top, or a vase with a shaft... haha
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on September 06, 2009, 08:50:37 pm
Well, it's a modern abstract vase.

I really don't think it would be a big deal, considering High Times magazine has centerfold layouts of buds.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: otomon on September 07, 2009, 04:28:24 am
This is a question for all you pot heads... what is the easiest/fastest way to smoke pot?

Personally I been using home made bong using those Coke cans for years.. .all u do i kinda squeesh it in the middle and make some hole in the middle then inhale from where you usually drink,I have also tried "cooking it wuith butter" but I epic failed.. anyone got any ideas I would really apreciate it... and dont say rolling a joint.. it takes too long and everyone knows what a joint is.. with the can you can just trow it away and none will know.
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Post by: Evangel on September 07, 2009, 04:32:34 am
Personally I been using home made bong using those Coke cans for years.. .

This actually explains a lot.
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Post by: otomon on September 07, 2009, 04:36:08 am
This actually explains a lot.

What exactly does it explain?
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Post by: Evangel on September 07, 2009, 04:37:15 am
Okay.  Apparently smoking from aluminum is a gray area, so maybe you're just naturally like that.
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Post by: Alec on September 07, 2009, 03:00:34 pm
if you're worried about being discreet buy or make a one-hitter or small pipe
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Post by: Farren on September 07, 2009, 04:46:04 pm
use a bong

and stop using epic you sound like a fucking moron

I mean you'll sound like a fucking moron anyways but maybe less annoying
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: otomon on September 07, 2009, 05:04:42 pm
use a bong

and stop using epic you sound like a fucking moron

I mean you'll sound like a fucking moron anyways but maybe less annoying

Um ... you replied to my post without actually reading it.. I said I wanted to be discreet a bong or pipe is not discreet.
And Im the "moron"
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on September 07, 2009, 11:59:35 pm
fuck you, you can suck the thc straight out of my dick then
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brown on September 08, 2009, 12:16:35 am
lmaooo I'm laughing so hard while on drugs. 'A' topic!
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Post by: Brad on September 08, 2009, 05:17:35 am
fucking hot knifes man
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Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on September 08, 2009, 11:15:43 am
The Legendary Hentai Lord

...Yes, you're really "cool".
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: otomon on September 08, 2009, 01:41:00 pm
...Yes, you're really "cool".

Aww shucks (smoke) I apreciminate the complimant! (smoke) But this topic aint (smoke) about me.. its  (smoke) about drugs!
Are you smoking yet?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on September 08, 2009, 06:35:32 pm
Here are my "Vases"


Hope you like em, tell me what you think.
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Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on September 08, 2009, 08:04:43 pm
Aww shucks (smoke) I apreciminate the complimant! (smoke) But this topic aint (smoke) about me.. its  (smoke) about drugs!
Are you smoking yet?

Smokin's for dweebs.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: otomon on September 08, 2009, 11:18:36 pm
Hope you like em, tell me what you think.

Sir? Dont you know that smoking from plastic can give you Alzheimers? Shame on you!!!


Smokin's for dweebs.

I know you are but what am I?? Har har har.... I hate my life.. someone kill me plz...
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on September 08, 2009, 11:45:48 pm
you should use a glass jar atleast and I think those rubber hoses getting hot probably wouldn't be a good thing

I really like the jack daniels one though.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on September 09, 2009, 01:16:58 am
you should use a glass jar atleast and I think those rubber hoses getting hot probably wouldn't be a good thing

I really like the jack daniels one though.


Rubber hoses wont get hot.   The Way Duo works is fairly simple,   The Slider rests atop the bottle, there's a tube from the neck of the bottle that goes 70% of the way down the middle of the bottle into water the hoses are on the other side, the smoke has to pass through water before it hits the rubber tubes, and the glass slider goes a ways into this middle middle tube and away from its sides so it doesn't melt any plastic, smoke just gets held within it.


And Thanks, I like the Jacks bottle a lot too esthetically, It sadly is only a mild hitter compared to Duo or Grav, and about par with Greenie.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on September 10, 2009, 07:17:42 pm
I know you are but what am I?? Har har har.... I hate my life.. someone kill me plz...

Pee-Wee Herman apparently?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on September 11, 2009, 01:46:27 pm
I think anyone who has ever made a homemade bong or has any nice bong/"vases"  should post them up!  Lets see what GW smokes... "Tobacco" out of!
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Kaworu on September 11, 2009, 10:08:45 pm
whoops, forgot i took my tranqs again. another vodka and maybe I'll strt tripping again
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Post by: Kaworu on September 11, 2009, 11:30:24 pm
Yeah I had a pretty bg think. I hadmy voska and tool my trnq then after a fer more forgot i tooq it so i tooq it again and then somepainkillert to smooth it down Iin 4 vodkas hereI
I hadsomethig of a really wild trip[ that some GW'reres and a friend werll oneGW'er
maybe I should work it what it was.
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Post by: goldenratio on September 11, 2009, 11:49:10 pm
i think kaworu has a problem. he is probably going to die.
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Post by: big ass skelly on September 11, 2009, 11:55:07 pm
Could the GW troubadours make some kind of benefit concert for kaworu in his time of need
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Post by: Alec on September 12, 2009, 12:12:20 am
Quote
Zopiclone is sometimes used as a method of suicide. Zopiclone has a similar fatality index as benzodiazepine drugs, apart from alprazolam which is particularly toxic in overdosage. Deaths have occurred from zopiclone overdose, alone or in combination with other drugs. Overdose of zopiclone may present with excessive sedation, depressed respiratory function which may progress to coma and possibly death. Zopiclone combined with alcohol, opiates or other CNS depressants may be even more likely to lead to fatal overdoses. Zopiclone overdosage can be treated with the benzodiazepine receptor antagonist flumazenil which displaces zopiclone from its binding site on the benzodiazepine receptor thereby rapidly reversing the effects of zopiclone. Serious effects on the heart may also occur from a zopiclone overdose.

Death certificates show the number of zopiclone related deaths is on the rise. Zopiclone when taken alone usually is not fatal, however, when mixed with alcohol or other drugs such as opioids, or in patients with respiratory, or hepatic disorders, the risk of a serious and fatal overdose increases.

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Post by: Mateui on September 12, 2009, 01:47:13 am
Not only are you putting yourself at risk of too much depression with taking zopiclone and alcohol, but alcohol and opioid withdrawal can actually kill you with an overwhelming rebound stimulatory effect. You're putting your life at risk here.


Guys, I think it's time we had an intervention for kaworu.. we can't let him go on like this.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Drule on September 12, 2009, 02:56:56 am
KAWORU





WAKE UP
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Post by: Evangel on September 12, 2009, 05:30:49 pm
Has anyone experimented with hangover cures or preventions?  If I've had a particularly rough night, I usually pop an aspirin and chug lots of water before hitting the sack.  Not sure if the aspirin helps, but I feel at least halfway better not waking up completely dehydrated.  The next day, if I can ass myself to do some cardio, I'll usually feel a good deal better after that, too.  That could be imagined, because if I'm well enough to do that, I probably wasn't too hungover in the first place.

I'm pretty sure all of these cures you hear about are false.  I don't think there's any end-all to the hangover effect.
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Post by: Revolutionist on September 13, 2009, 04:04:48 am
I did all of it when I was a teen a little before entering adulthood... But when I converted to Islam, I gradually stopped and now I don't even drink alcohol... I'm totally clean now for many years and couldn't be happier.

Its a misconception that you can only have fun with friends when you're drunk or high.... The reality is that you can have so much fun without doing any of this garbage. The majority of my friends still do this stuff and I'm totally cool with it as long as they don't try to impose it on me anymore... but they know my situation so they don't. So it's cool!
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Post by: Mince Wobley on September 13, 2009, 04:20:20 am
If you need to be high to tolerate your friends' presence then they're not your friends
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Post by: Farren on September 13, 2009, 04:41:59 am
 have to be high to tolerate yhour presents

fuck your prescance
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Post by: fatty on September 14, 2009, 04:56:43 pm
Yeah I had a pretty bg think. I hadmy voska and tool my trnq then after a fer more forgot i tooq it so i tooq it again and then somepainkillert to smooth it down Iin 4 vodkas hereI
I hadsomethig of a really wild trip[ that some GW'reres and a friend werll oneGW'er
maybe I should work it what it was.
Uh





wow...?
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Post by: esp on September 14, 2009, 05:05:37 pm
has kaworu actually been on gw since that post???? presumed... dead...
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on September 14, 2009, 05:14:04 pm
You know, I'm not entirely sure myself. I'm still waiting for him to respond to a question I posted him in another topic about his thoughts on game development as an art-form.

I certainly hope he isn't dead. I really want to hear what he has to say.
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Post by: fatty on September 14, 2009, 05:29:00 pm
it's like suki is dieing all over again
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Post by: fatty on September 16, 2009, 03:58:04 pm
newsflash, smoking just a liiiiiiiittle pot made me jimmy fucking hendrix(as far as guitar playing goes)
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Post by: Vellfire on September 16, 2009, 04:00:40 pm
He's been on irc, he's alive but still a horrible mess.
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Post by: fatty on September 16, 2009, 04:42:44 pm
What caused him to do that by the way
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Post by: Alec on September 16, 2009, 05:07:36 pm
He did it on accident and liked it, so he upped doses for everything apparently
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Post by: fatty on September 16, 2009, 06:25:48 pm
A bloody moron, that's what he is.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on September 16, 2009, 06:33:23 pm
This is kind of strange, because I'm p sure he's going to die~
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Post by: Allen Hunter on September 16, 2009, 07:36:26 pm
he's already dead inside
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Post by: crone_lover720 on September 17, 2009, 05:05:48 am
kaworu if you don't stop it you're going to be banned.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on September 17, 2009, 05:40:22 am
we're to blame mostly, we should have just let him spend his money on transformers and GI joes.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: JPC on September 17, 2009, 03:44:26 pm
Apparently I died too but the rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. On topic,  4-methylmethcathinone is surprisingly nice.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Jester on September 17, 2009, 03:57:51 pm
Apparently I died too but the rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. On topic,  4-methylmethcathinone is surprisingly nice.
:O
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Post by: esp on September 17, 2009, 05:37:36 pm
omg its jpc
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Post by: Mateui on September 17, 2009, 07:03:48 pm
suki!!!! Take that doug beach!
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Post by: Farren on September 17, 2009, 07:17:17 pm
I'm thinking about picking up smoking again

I was going to just smoke the spice shit I've been buying but I ran out and its probably not going to get here until I'm gone or just about to leave. I've already smoked about a dime already anyways. I was worried about testing but a guy I worked with told me they've only done it about two years ago and I just took a test a month ago.

it is good money but I'm also working my ass off in the heat for an entire month with a bunch of dudes too so I'm thinking it isn't worth quite enough for me to stop smoking pot entirely.

I think I might just buy some cleaner and bring it with me just incase and otherwise not worry about it but I dunno.
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Post by: fatty on September 17, 2009, 08:14:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSC5h7kYno this is mad old but wow, I wanna feel like he does
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Post by: Standard Toaster on September 17, 2009, 08:23:55 pm
suki!!!! Take that doug beach!
jpc =/= turkpimp
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Post by: fatty on September 17, 2009, 09:50:57 pm
jpc =/= turkpimp
who the hell is jpc, turkpimp is bort
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Post by: esp on September 17, 2009, 10:43:43 pm
who the hell is JPC??? .. .before your time fatty......
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Post by: Mateui on September 18, 2009, 02:07:10 am
jpc =/= turkpimp
For some reason, in my mind doug beach was the perpetrator of both their disappearances.. but I guess not. JPC was making that graphically awesome Rm2k3 game from what I remember.
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Post by: fatty on September 18, 2009, 03:06:05 am
sometimes I have a hard time getting you mateui
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Post by: Madolah on September 19, 2009, 01:30:44 pm
Cannabis is becoming Scarce around my parts. Living on an Island where I have huge speculation Coke exporters are running the local police and all Cannabis related drugs are getting busted while coke and the such is on the rise. It was $20/g here for a while now its $15/g for just about anything. And even then its hard to come by. Sad times. Very sad times.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on September 21, 2009, 05:52:20 pm
start doing coke
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Post by: Farren on September 21, 2009, 07:33:06 pm
last night I outsmoked a cow, kept giving it shotguns until it didn't want anymore and it got really really really fucked up.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on September 21, 2009, 08:06:16 pm
naw man moo naw man im good moo
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Post by: Faust on September 21, 2009, 08:06:57 pm
WOW JPC POSTED THIS IS GOOD NEWS :D​!!

How's it going JPC? I assumed you had DIED OF THE GOTH, which I believe was a fair assumption!!!

Also:

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was going to just smoke the spice shit I've been buying but I ran out and its probably not going to get here until I'm gone or just about to leave

I read this as "get here until I'm on shore leave" for a second and thought "WHOA COXSWAIN IS A SAILOR!?!"
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on September 21, 2009, 08:51:39 pm
last night I outsmoked a cow, kept giving it shotguns until it didn't want anymore and it got really really really fucked up.

i find this really weird, really weird. maybe it's just me though, i've got a friend who smokes weed with his mom too
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Post by: Farren on September 21, 2009, 09:47:41 pm
nah dude I smoked with a COW

I get how you're a little confused though mom and cow does sound the same in your strange heathen language
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Post by: Farren on September 21, 2009, 09:49:01 pm
hey tell me if this is true or not I heard somewhere that new zealanders don't use toilet paper because it would cost too much money to have it imported.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on September 21, 2009, 09:57:56 pm
yeah new zealand has a huge forestry sector so we tend not to import toilet paper. we still have it but i guess it's not as prominent/visible as we don't eat as much and we can also use it ourselves
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Post by: goldenratio on September 21, 2009, 10:46:20 pm
i smoke with my mom all the time. sometimes i buy from her boyfriend too. my mom's the best.
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Post by: wooha on September 22, 2009, 12:40:21 am
i am going to be doing shrooms the first time this week. any advice?
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Post by: Alec on September 22, 2009, 01:19:06 pm
enjoy it. you can't have a bad trip if you don't want to.
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Post by: Beasley on September 22, 2009, 05:12:36 pm
i am going into the woods with three friends this weekend and were all going to do shrooms
none of us have ever done them

what are some fun things to do whilst on shrooms? music to listen to? safety precautions? etc.
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Post by: wooha on September 22, 2009, 06:43:56 pm
yeah i wanna burn a few cds to listen to while im on shrooms. any recommendations? i heard classical music was fantastic while tripping.
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Post by: Alec on September 22, 2009, 06:54:16 pm
If you listen to your favorite music while tripping you'll have a fantastic time. As long as the song doesn't drum up any unpleasant emotions in you. I would most recommend something you like to listen to as background music. It will kind of steer your trip environment to the music
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on September 22, 2009, 07:47:11 pm
yeah i wanna burn a few cds to listen to while im on shrooms. any recommendations? i heard classical music was fantastic while tripping.

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2943685

dooo ittt
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Post by: Buttkiller on September 22, 2009, 08:18:48 pm
yeah i wanna burn a few cds to listen to while im on shrooms. any recommendations? i heard classical music was fantastic while tripping.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?moy4tmzmdmz
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jnuztqmy0yj
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ztlyw12mvmy

im a faggot
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Post by: fatty on September 25, 2009, 04:55:13 am
I'm giving up the ghost of love
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Post by: Farren on September 25, 2009, 04:51:59 pm
what are you talking about

also, not high and it sucks
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Post by: PTizzle on October 02, 2009, 01:18:22 pm
mmm, well, i am careful with drugs because my sister is a drug addict who has had several bad overdoses and i don't want to end up like she was, living on the streets and doing heroin and cocaine every day. i don't support drug use in general because i know developing addictions is a terrible thing. in terms of personal experience, well...

i'm currently on 30mg of Paxil per day as an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety medication, and i have 20mg Xanax pills that i can use as needed. for a while, i was really stressed and i became addicted to Paxil and Xanax, where i was regularly taking a lot more than i should have. there was a day that i took a lot of Xanax when i got home from school, and i fell into a really deep sleep for 18 hours straight, missing school the next day (because my mom absolutely could not wake me when she tried and alarms were no use). around that time i was also selling my various prescription medicines to some people at school. nowadays i've gotten a bit better about my habit of abusing and selling my meds, though.

20....20mg of xanax.

You mean 2mg right?

20 would lay you out for half a week per pill. I took 12mg with friends one night and was out for like 2-3 days.

1mg xanax roughly = 20mg valium.

I'm off weed/opiates/hallucinogens/dissociatives for a few months at the moment and it sucks, but I do generally feel better. I'm certainly not writing lyrics as well though =).
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Post by: Farren on October 02, 2009, 04:29:59 pm
I wanna see some of your new work ptizzle

also aren't the bars 5 or 6 mgs? And those alone are supposed to really lay you out but it takes two for me to even feel it (cus I'm a badass)
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Post by: Alec on October 02, 2009, 05:33:55 pm
nope bars are 2 mg
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Post by: goldenratio on October 02, 2009, 06:08:39 pm
yeah the 4-piece bars are 0.5mg per section
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Post by: Mateui on October 02, 2009, 07:41:42 pm
What are these bars that you are taking about? I need to learn this stuff people. I'm learning most about illicit drug use on GW, so thanks for furthering my education all of you. <3 (Just don't OD on me).
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Post by: Farren on October 02, 2009, 08:11:41 pm
its literally a bar of xanax with 4 sections on it at .5 mg each. I guess you're supposed to split it up or something.

That is fucking crazy then I can't believe you ate 12mg at one time ptizzle and didn't go comatose
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 02, 2009, 08:14:33 pm
i hgad 15mg of xanax once and was totally fine minus blacking the fuck out. in fact they use 15-20mg to sedate psychotic people who get hospitalized. its stupidly hard to actuallly OD on xanax alone
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Post by: Farren on October 02, 2009, 08:17:52 pm
oh I guess that makes sense then I don't know much about it

what about the footballs? are they 1 mg or are they stronger than bars? I thought my bro told me they were stronger but I can't remember.

After I took those two bars though I couldn't remember what happened the night before at all. Which is odd for me because I never forget anything when I'm getting hammered whatever it be with.
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Post by: PTizzle on October 02, 2009, 10:12:01 pm
Footballs are 1mg, they're usually what we get here in Aus.

And yeah, it's actually near impossible to overdose on straight benzos - you'll just be laid the fuck out and wake up confused as hell, but it can't kill you (unless you combine it with alcohol or opiates and then it can very easily!).

~ the more u know ~

PS Coxswain I'll hook you up with some stuff soon, I've been working hard on my biggest thing to date and it's a couple months off so the end is in sight! There's a new song on myspace but just the one and it's just a random thing.
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Post by: Alec on October 02, 2009, 11:29:36 pm
A blue football is 1 mg. Pink ones are .5 and white one are .25 I think I may have gotten those two mixed up
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 02, 2009, 11:31:30 pm
I had a panic attack recently as was prescribed some valium. I don't really intend to take it, though, but maybe.
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Post by: Mateui on October 04, 2009, 08:26:52 pm
And yeah, it's actually near impossible to overdose on straight benzos - you'll just be laid the fuck out and wake up confused as hell, but it can't kill you (unless you combine it with alcohol or opiates and then it can very easily!).

~ the more u know ~
Actually, that's only half true. While you can't be killed by an overdose of a benzodiazepine, benzodiazepine withdrawal can kill you! And it doesn't take that long to get dependent on them, so I wouldn't be too careless if I were you.
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Post by: c0nfu53d on October 04, 2009, 08:52:45 pm
Anybody tried magic mint (AKA Salvia divinorum)? I'm thinking of giving it a shot - it's a psychoactive herb thats apparently legal in most places. It's def legal here in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum
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Post by: Madolah on October 04, 2009, 10:27:53 pm
^^GREAT STUFF!
Ive ordered it from Salviacafe multiple times and its the real deal, if you can luck into it Salviacult has some really good stuff for crazy experience but 20x is a good hit beginner or regular user. For best results I use a small Bong and MAKE SURE you have a good Blue Flame Butane lighter, you'll need it to burn the Salvia hot enough. And no matter how bad it tastes or how much it makes you wanna cough, heave it in your lungs and hold it there till "your vision vibrates" . For Optimal Trip results find a comfy chair and listen to a good song with headphones. advise not to take in a group as your pals laughing at you ruins the trip but 2 or 3 people taking turns is best kind.
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Post by: Farren on October 05, 2009, 12:03:56 am
In my experience start the music first because when you take the salvia you won't be able to do anything until its almost over.

Also it isn't that great and we talked about it in the whats on your mind topic.
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 05, 2009, 09:20:48 pm
don't listen to music on salvia because it won't sound like music
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 05, 2009, 10:24:14 pm
Yeah, but it will taste delicious.
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Post by: Farren on October 06, 2009, 12:13:16 am
or soundwaves will knock you on your ass
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Post by: Rajew on October 06, 2009, 02:12:34 am
salvia blows do NOT waste your time with it.
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Post by: Madolah on October 06, 2009, 05:41:22 am
Yeah, but it will taste delicious.


BEST DAMN THING EVER!!
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Post by: FrostyPink on October 06, 2009, 06:19:49 pm
has anyone tried wii sports on a lot of drugs
how is it
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Post by: Farren on October 07, 2009, 12:18:42 am
No fuck that why would you want to be movin around and all that shit
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 08, 2009, 09:54:53 pm
who the fuck moves around playing wii
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Post by: Ryan on October 08, 2009, 10:06:08 pm
who the fuck plays wii
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Post by: Ryan on October 08, 2009, 10:06:22 pm
who isnt 10 or kezay
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Post by: goldenratio on October 08, 2009, 10:53:32 pm
my mom does
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 08, 2009, 11:19:41 pm
wii owns. storms out
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Post by: Madolah on October 09, 2009, 04:57:39 pm
Say day 4 Into my 6week Training coarse @ ICT (*call center) we come to find that 12/15 People + our instructor smoke pot. One of the ppeople in our class has K too. and one of the guys who might have dropped out was an 18yr old weed/coke dealer .... its Crazy!
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 10, 2009, 12:42:57 am
who isnt 10 or kezay
wii bowling is the shit
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Post by: Farren on October 10, 2009, 12:52:34 am
DIETCOKE

I thought you leftfor good
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 10, 2009, 12:53:52 am
has anyone tried wii sports on a lot of drugs
how is it
i have a friend who wanted to play videogames while we were on acid and I just kinda sat there watching him merge with the machine and get hypnotized by the screen until I couldn't take it anymore and had to call someone else to come over and go to the park with me
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Post by: Ryan on October 10, 2009, 04:47:25 am
how on earth do you find acid man

i have been trying for ages
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 10, 2009, 03:26:09 pm
how on earth do you find acid man

i have been trying for ages
i can get my hands on anything.
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Post by: Ryan on October 10, 2009, 05:31:07 pm
man ive been able to get pretty much whatever ive been looking for except lsd. that shit is rarer than gold around here
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Post by: Farren on October 10, 2009, 08:18:41 pm
I got it like two months back but yeah I went MONTHS AND MONTHS looking for it and it not being around and then its like all you can get for a month and its gone again.
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 11, 2009, 12:20:29 am
some of my asshole friends are always trying to push window panes on me whenever I see them. The problem is that it's always way too goddamn strong, none of those crazy motherfuckers mess with blotters it's always high dose shit like window panes and amber vials of it.
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Post by: big ass skelly on October 11, 2009, 12:27:38 am
Yeah, I hate double glazing salesmen
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Post by: Farren on October 11, 2009, 12:33:16 am
Yeah I took a blotter and I would have been good with that but my cousin takes ALOT of them because he's heavier than me and wanted someone to trip with him and offered me another half of a blotter for free so I took it which wasn't the smartest thing to do seeing as how it was my first time really tripping and I went insane.

Not like smearing shit all over the walls insane but I kept rambling on about shit and couldn't focus on ANYTHING I was doing physically while mentally I was up in the stars looking at everything and my mind kind of fell apart and rebuilt itself and I was literally hearing voices and shit it was crazy and being like that infront of people made me really vulnerable and I didn't like that too much but it got better when I was alone.

Like, I don't know if anyone's gone through this but I could actually hear through the way other people were talking that were on it and the way I was spitting shit out that I wasn't even thinking about the drug makes you talk about it in itself and confess all kinds of stupid shit either because you thought about it for a split second or your conscious jumps out of you at random.

For instance some chick that was tripping too when we were hanging out with other people just blurted out that she gave birth standing up in a bathtub for apparently no reason at all. And one of the guys that wasn't tripping hard commented that they didn't want to hear about that and thats basically what you should expect if you take a lil too much of that shit imo, that and going insane thats not too good either.
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Post by: Reaverbot on October 11, 2009, 08:59:29 pm
HELP!!!!! i have shrooms sitting in my closet in a bag, theyve been there for 2 weeks should i still eat them
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Post by: goldenratio on October 11, 2009, 09:18:35 pm
Y.E.S.
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Post by: Ryan on October 11, 2009, 10:14:51 pm
if they were dried then yea. fresh I d k
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Post by: Beasley on October 13, 2009, 08:31:08 pm
tripped shrooms first time this weekend

it was ok i dont know what to think tbh
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 13, 2009, 10:29:48 pm
ingested lsd saturday i think. played basketball with a few friends who were also tripping then smoked some weed after like 6 hours of fucking playing basketball. it was cool because we were all super terrible and i kept dissolving while becoming MORE PERMANENT thgough nothing lasts, nothing is everywhere, nothing is within the scope of existence and the absence of something is still something so existence/nonexistence is only a tiny part of reality although reality is a terrible word to use for this because reality and nonreality are still part of existence/nonexistence which is only a tiny bit of what really is or isn't and i don't like to say a tiny bit because measurements and shit like that are a construct of what we perceive so "a tiny bit" means nothing where concepts like tiny and large and anything that we can understand or express don't exist and never have and aaghggh

also trees are fucking stupidly tall why are they so tall.
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 14, 2009, 03:03:58 pm
thgough nothing lasts, nothing is everywhere, nothing is within the scope of existence and the absence of something is still something so existence/nonexistence is only a tiny part of reality although reality is a terrible word to use for this because reality and nonreality are still part of existence/nonexistence which is only a tiny bit of what really is or isn't and i don't like to say a tiny bit because measurements and shit like that are a construct of what we perceive so "a tiny bit" means nothing where concepts like tiny and large and anything that we can understand or express don't exist and never have and aaghggh

acid  :welp:
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 14, 2009, 03:06:07 pm
tripped shrooms first time this weekend

it was ok i dont know what to think tbh
how much did you eat?

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Post by: Beasley on October 14, 2009, 04:22:09 pm
how much did you eat?



3/4ths of an eighth. it's the first time ive messed around with psychadelics so i wanted to take it a little easy. ill post a more in depth trip report if i feel like it later
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Post by: Farren on October 14, 2009, 04:44:16 pm
shrooms are something that if you take too many of em you just puke it out so theres nothing to really be worried about
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Post by: Brown on October 14, 2009, 05:27:32 pm
2 handfuls of shrooms + 2 hours + 2 spliffs + 2 cups half full each of rum + coke = a really really spinning and dizzy night + morning.
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 14, 2009, 08:04:43 pm
shrooms are something that if you take too many of em you just puke it out so theres nothing to really be worried about
no this is not true at all.

the more you eat, the more psilocybin gets in your bloodstream, the weirder shit gets. There's no wall that stops you from getting higher on that stuff and you can really lose it at high doses.
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Post by: Beasley on October 14, 2009, 09:54:13 pm
what is the optimal enviorment for a shroom trip dietcoke? i know youve done the psychadellic dance pretty thoroughly so id like some advice for you for next time honestly. cuz i did basically the OPPOSITE of what i hear you should do on your first trip

no trip sitter, i only knew one of the (four) kids really well, at night, locked in a dorm

strange strange experience. didnt trip too hard though, obviously, with the amount taken
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Post by: goldenratio on October 14, 2009, 10:03:51 pm
for me the most important component of any trip is the people you are doing it with. the environment can be good or bad depending on the dudes you are with, so imo it is the most important factor. don't do it around anyone who's dark or moody or creepy or weird or annoying. only do it with good friends. if you are alone, just make sure you have a space set up that is quiet and dark and make sure you can easily control your stereo or whatever (use headphones so you can just take them off).
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 14, 2009, 10:26:25 pm
mae weedsoymilk (i'm i'm vegan). it see ms to be wo r k i n g smile
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 14, 2009, 10:28:03 pm
doing that thing where everythign is a song but nobody wantsto harmonize with meeeee
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 15, 2009, 12:06:38 am
what is the optimal enviorment for a shroom trip dietcoke? i know youve done the psychadellic dance pretty thoroughly so id like some advice for you for next time honestly. cuz i did basically the OPPOSITE of what i hear you should do on your first trip

no trip sitter, i only knew one of the (four) kids really well, at night, locked in a dorm

strange strange experience. didnt trip too hard though, obviously, with the amount taken
It's all pretty much common sense, safe situation with safe friends you'd trust not to judge/abandon you if you freak out, and at least have a couple people around who're not high and can handle talking someone down if they start going nuts. I'd avoid doing it in a dorm with people you don't know well just in case you wig out and start spilling your guts about something embarrassing to a bunch of folks you don't know well and have to live with.

As long as you understand that you are pretty much handing control over your mind to a chemical and are OK with all of what that entails you should be fine. Any reservations or anxieties you have have a greater potential to bubble up and get extremely uncomfortable as you increase your dose so be aware of how much you're taking.

If things get bad, remember: You took a drug, you will be back to normal in a few hours, breath deep and say "Ohmmmmmmmmmmmm"
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Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2009, 12:18:42 am
i think shrooms are my favorite drug. psychedelics really are the best

also how do shrooms and lsd compare?
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Post by: Farren on October 15, 2009, 12:26:01 am
Oh yeah I guess you're right I was under the assumption that shrooms unless homegrown were hard to get that way off of so you'd have to be pretty determined to turn your mind into a bunch of firecrackers therefor know what you're doing to some extent
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 15, 2009, 12:26:52 am
Acid is a much more "analytical" trip where your thoughts start racing toward what seems to be a singularity of understanding and you become absorbed in the details of everything.

Mushrooms are like you're being taken over by some kind of animalistic/alien consciousness and everything comes alive.

DMT is like when neo can SEE THE MATRIX :freak:
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 15, 2009, 12:27:59 am
Oh yeah I guess you're right I was under the assumption that shrooms unless homegrown were hard to get that way off of so you'd have to be pretty determined to turn your mind into a bunch of firecrackers therefor know what you're doing to some extent
the fuckers grow wild up here. alls you need to do is find a white guy with dreads and chances are he knows a great place to go fungus hunting.
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Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2009, 12:29:53 am
yeah they grow wild around here too. you can find them pretty cheap in a lot of rural areas (most of the fuckin state). especially areas with a lot of cow and horse fields
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Post by: Farren on October 15, 2009, 12:43:34 am
Well I live on the gulf coast and its supposed to be shroom central from what I've read but I don't know anyone good at finding em and a decent cow field where they don't put that bullshit in the cow's food (?) what is that shit called again?
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 15, 2009, 12:48:01 am
sneak around college campuses and look for guys playing hackeysack, they'll know
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Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2009, 01:22:30 am
im trading a dimebag for two 40's

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Post by: Barack Obama on October 15, 2009, 02:41:22 pm
dont do drugs
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Post by: Farren on October 15, 2009, 04:41:46 pm
you'd be getting ripped off stupid 40s are cheap
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Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2009, 05:28:13 pm
i know but i had sex w/ the girl who got them for me so it worked out :welp:
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Post by: Buttkiller on October 15, 2009, 08:10:57 pm
acid sex
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Post by: goldenratio on November 01, 2009, 08:10:34 pm
i might smoke some dmt today. im not sure if i want to. its pretty daunting.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 03, 2009, 12:46:29 am
i might smoke some dmt today. im not sure if i want to. its pretty daunting.

you'd better fucking do it, i have no idea where to find thyat stuff but i want to so very badly
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Post by: Ryan on November 03, 2009, 12:49:34 am
i might be gettin some lsd

im so excited
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Post by: Carrion Crow on November 03, 2009, 12:52:21 am
well make sure you don't forget your pen or shit your bed for a third time
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 03, 2009, 01:22:37 am
i might be gettin some lsd

im so excited

i know you didnt ask for advice or anything but go forest exploring. this only works if you're not scared of forests because you live right in a forest but if you have a forest like right there fucking explore it dude, theres s omany textures ahhhh nose scrape *bean*
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 03, 2009, 01:27:49 am
halloween was interesting. in a city i didn't know anyone in/my friend left me alone

i got really drunk, did ecstasy, two hits of mdma, 3 of blow and speed. don't ask me how i survived
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Post by: Ryan on November 03, 2009, 01:47:53 am
i know you didnt ask for advice or anything but go forest exploring. this only works if you're not scared of forests because you live right in a forest but if you have a forest like right there fucking explore it dude, theres s omany textures ahhhh nose scrape *bean*

haha yeah a few people have told me that. next time i get shrooms im gonna try it
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 03, 2009, 04:01:33 pm
i might smoke some dmt today. im not sure if i want to. its pretty daunting.
5meo-DMT or nn-DMT?

nn-DMT is fucking weird, that stuff pretty much put me off doing hallucinogens for a long time. Something about perceiving other beings with your entire physical environment displaced with some kind of kaleidoscopic pattern/grid is just too much for me.
If you're gonna do it, you should really do it and just fucking smoke massive amounts of it until you feel like you've had too much, then take one more big hit. A lot of people will stop short of moving past their comfort zone, won't really get the full experience, and it's over before they know it.

My advice: don't do drugs. If you're going to though, do it in a comfortable and safe setting with someone who'd prevent you from doing something stupid and you'd trust enough to blurt out your deepest secrets to.
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Post by: goldenratio on November 03, 2009, 04:29:18 pm
I would guess it's 5-MeO, since it was extracted from some m. hostilis with naptha. They were telling me that there are 2 things to extract, one that comes off the top of the solution (which is what they had, i guess tihs is the 5-meo), and theres another sludge on the bottom of the solution that you can extract as well (is this the nn-DMT?).

Yeah they are apparently friends with someone who makes this shit, so they didn't call me back that day but I'm sure i'll get some soon enough.
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 01:57:45 am
is 3.5grams of shrooms enough for a really good trip? im buying a quarter this weekend and sharing it with this chick
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:00:54 am
is 3.5grams of shrooms enough for a really good trip? im buying a quarter this weekend and sharing it with this chick
go for five, i dare you.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:03:03 am
just in case you think about this advice later in your trip: I am not real, I'm actually an artificial intelligence software program installed on the internet by a higher intelligence with the sole purpose of bringing you to that exact moment and state of consciousness  :fogetfingerwag:
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:07:17 am
 :fogetcool:

i heard anything past 5 grams of shrooms and youre pretty much immobile. EGO DEATH and all that shit. sounds tempting.............
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:08:00 am
although the dealer i buy shrooms from says he regularly eats an entire quarter himself :welp:
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:09:46 am
also aaaaaaah i just realized i have yet to listen to niandra lades on shrooms.

on second thought that might be a bad idea, i usually end up crying or feeling depressed as hell while listening to it sober :(
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:10:36 am
here are some more horrible things to think about while tripping:
http://www.deesillustration.com/ps1.html
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:14:11 am
although the dealer i buy shrooms from says he regularly eats an entire quarter himself :welp:
I don't know how someone can be normal doing shit like that regularly. the people I know who are like that with acid/fungus/dmt are all fucking weird as hell and I can't really hang out with them if it's just me and no other normal people.

it's an unnerving kind of weird, like the way you'd feel hanging out with a schizophrenic or brainwashed person where they have this kind of wise and experienced air about them but you know all that wisdom and experience is nearly 100% crazy bullshit.
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:16:15 am
yeah he is a very awkward dude and you can tell hes kind of burnt out. he sells me shrooms for $5 a gram tho which is pretty sweet around here
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:18:06 am
http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/dees1.htm
here's some more stuff you should never look at while tripping
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:25:48 am
for real i love that shit. i want to meet the guy who made those
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:26:32 am
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.rense.com/1.imagesH/feddees.jpeg)
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:31:27 am
the holocaust denial ones are the best. there's also one with david icke in it and another with alan greenspan with scales(THE REPTILIAN CONSPIRACY).

fuckin' OWNZ
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:32:35 am
BTW did you know that "own" is "NWO" backwards? do you think it's a coincidence that this term has taken hold of people using the zionist-controlled internet?
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:33:08 am
a guy in my poli sci class quoted david icke the other day
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:33:54 am
a guy in my poli sci class quoted david icke the other day
make friends with him immediately
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:34:36 am
"Knowledge is a very dangerous thing when you are trying to hold people down, trying to manipulate them." -David Icke

that was it
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:36:22 am
that's not a good david icke quote. his best ones are when he starts ranting about how THE MATRIX was based on reality and compares reality and the self to computers and the internet
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:37:18 am
i am a fan of the worldwide reptilian conspiracy quotes
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:38:17 am
Alex jones released his new movie FALL OF THE REPUBLIC VOL. 1: THE PRESIDENCY OF BARACK H. OBAMA recently
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:41:23 am
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.rense.com/1.imagesH/Lbutchery.jpeg)

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/www.rense.com/1.imagesH/decider_dees.jpeg)

incredible
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:43:30 am
the analog timer on the dynamite is set for 9:55 while the dynamite with the digital clock is set at 9:11.. looks like someone made a big ol' BONER right there
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 02:46:19 am
man I hope ron paul runs again in 2012
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Post by: Ryan on November 05, 2009, 02:57:45 am
hes got my vote
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Post by: c0nfu53d on November 05, 2009, 09:43:54 am
make friends with him immediately

Im staying with my mum on the isle of wight at the moment, and will be going to ryde later, where David Icke lives. Maybe i'll look him up. Although i'm not sure I want to. He has alot of valid points but the ruins it by making absurd reptile claims. He also went on tv years ago saying he was the son of god or jesus returned i don't remember which. He's deep but kinda wierd.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 05, 2009, 03:15:13 pm
Im staying with my mum on the isle of wight at the moment, and will be going to ryde later, where David Icke lives. Maybe i'll look him up. Although i'm not sure I want to. He has alot of valid points but the ruins it by making absurd reptile claims. He also went on tv years ago saying he was the son of god or jesus returned i don't remember which. He's deep but kinda wierd.
I went to see him talk last month and man he drew a huge crowd of crazies. Everyone from your run of the mill 'patriots' that you see tabling at gun shows to nutty new-age housewives handing out pamphlets about chemtrails and UFOs

I love his reptile claims. He'd just be another "anti-N.W.O." hack if he didn't sincerely believe that inter-dimensional lizards were behind it all.
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Post by: Farren on November 05, 2009, 09:19:55 pm
I ate like eight dry shrooms the other day and I didn't feel death of ego
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 06, 2009, 12:29:06 am
I ate like eight dry shrooms the other day and I didn't feel death of ego
eight grams?
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Post by: Farren on November 06, 2009, 12:39:34 am
no eight mushrooms you fool I don't speak your wierd eastasian metric system
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 06, 2009, 12:44:11 am
Round my way we measure weight in mushrooms.

when i go to the supermarket i weigh out 4 mushrooms of mushrooms.
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Post by: Farren on November 06, 2009, 04:42:23 am
you know it only sounds stupid when you say it that way asshole
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on November 06, 2009, 07:06:35 am
my cat weighs about a cat
this water weighs roughly 100% of this water

this is a superior system
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on November 06, 2009, 03:01:39 pm
Give the guy a break! He doesn't just carry a measuring spoon with neat little mushroom shaped measurement pouches just for instances in which to measure toxic substances entering his own brain. He's speaking from experience, and experience isn't some backwards European standard of measurement! Experience only cares about what he actually did, and what he did was eat eight mushrooms.

Pay attention.
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 06, 2009, 03:22:42 pm
We're joshing. Why so serious -- the joker -.-
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Post by: Wash Cycle on November 07, 2009, 06:38:13 am
I ate a peruvian torch cactus a couple weekends ago and tripped out for a long ass time

the problem with mescaline is that unless you increase the dosage, every time you do it, the experience is less interesting. that is unless of course mixed with other things, and then it can get mind bending really quick.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 07, 2009, 07:52:03 pm
jusst bought an oz of some really goodweed, fffffffffffgggghhhhhh, gbgbbabgbab,

also drank 3 bottles of robotussin for the first time in probably 4 or 5 years. i was intimidated by a door, something happened, i texted everybody, i threw someones drawers out a window. i couldnt get off a pogo stick and i tried to drink from a hose but i couldnt because i was laughing too hard.
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Post by: Brad on November 09, 2009, 08:49:22 am
So tonight was my first time smoking up (weed) since about roughly 4 months ago. Holy shit, good times.. good times..

I really don't plan on becoming a stoner again though anytime soon.
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Post by: Ryan on November 09, 2009, 01:40:42 pm
i had a dream last night that i took MDMA

also im finally gettin my shrooms today :fogetbackflip:
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Post by: Farren on November 09, 2009, 05:32:20 pm
pure mdma is the shit

I was gonna get some when I was home but that didn't work out.

Have you tripped yet at all ryan? The first time is a little shaky if you take a lot so I suggest you ease into it but make sure you take enough for a good dosage. Also be forewarned your mind is going to try to get you to worry or upset about something it'll make you think things you wouldn't normally think about and I've actually heard people say shit to me on the phone or in person that they didn't actually say. It takes alot of control to decipher whats real and what isn't sometimes and if you leap into it then you might have a bad one. Don't be scared either though and if you feel you can handle it after a good dose for awhile then up that shit.
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Post by: Ryan on November 09, 2009, 06:15:17 pm
yeah dude ive tripped a couple times before. this is probably gonna be one of my bigger doses though (3.5 grams, splitting a quarter with someone) so im excited

also how is MDMA? ive been interested in trying it but ive heard its DaNgErOuS
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 09, 2009, 08:19:27 pm
also how is MDMA? ive been interested in trying it but ive heard its DaNgErOuS

it's fucking great. probably the best drug experience if everyone else is high/rolling and you can get laid. pretty good with one person if you like hugging and jumping around for hours. not great with the same group of people you would smoke weed or trip with. do it at night or in the dark with a lot of bright things. fire is fucking awesome. glowsticks are obviously great. get fruity gum and chew it, it is sooo good. it's not dangerous. you might feel shitty for a couple days afterwards though.

- BUTTKILLER
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Post by: Schalt on November 09, 2009, 10:24:12 pm
ok I recently discovered that smoking weed over long periods of time alters dreaming. I've never thought about it until recently but I find that I dream much less. To combat this unfortunate side-effect, I have recently begun dosing myself with large amounts of Melatonin, a drug that is known to increase dream frequency. In addition to its anti-cancer properties, Melatonin is cheap and easily obtained.

I feel very well rested after this drug-induced slumber.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 09, 2009, 10:28:22 pm
ok I recently discovered that smoking weed over long periods of time alters dreaming. I've never thought about it until recently but I find that I dream much less. To combat this unfortunate side-effect, I have recently begun dosing myself with large amounts of Melatonin, a drug that is known to increase dream frequency. In addition to its anti-cancer properties, Melatonin is cheap and easily obtained.

I feel very well rested after this drug-induced slumber.

i take melatonin every night, it rules but what's this about anti-cancer properties?
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 09, 2009, 10:42:52 pm
i take melatonin every night, it rules but what's this about anti-cancer properties?
Because it is also an antioxidant.
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Post by: Schalt on November 09, 2009, 10:48:45 pm
Melatonin regulates the sleep cycle. If your endocrine system has become compromised or if your melatonin production itself is out of whack (staring at any source of light past your bedtime will cause this, IE computer monitor, as production is linked intimately with light perception) then you will probably not sleep normally and likely will develop some form of insomnia. (as if there is more than one kind.)

Not getting adequate sleep = greater chance of tumor growth caused by stress. Not to mention that your endocrine system produces many chemicals that simply inhibit tumor growth from the get go. Your thyroid is part of the endocrine system, for example. Having hyper/hypothyroidism as a result of a non optimal pineal gland efficiency would likely also be a factor in determining cellular health and possibly even the lifespan of an organism.

Bonus Info:

Melatonin is produced in the pineal gland, a small pine-cone shaped (hence, the name) organ near the base of your brain. The pineal gland is outside of the blood brain barrier, thus it is easily affected by free radical oxidation that is part of the "normal aging process." Heavy metals in particular tend to accumulate there, so it it important to keep your system well maintained by ingesting plenty of nutrient-rich foods and brightly colored vegetables and fruits that are high in antioxidants and other free radical scavenging molecules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

The dark side of light at night: physiological, epidemiological,
and ecological consequences http://www.psy.ohio-state.edu/nelson/documents/JPinealRes2007.pdf

Epidemiology of urinary melatonin in women and its relation to other hormones and night work.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15184249
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 09, 2009, 11:26:20 pm
well shit!
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Post by: Schalt on November 09, 2009, 11:36:11 pm
yah

unrelated, I am growing reishi mushrooms to treat arthritis in addition to my normal psilocybin-based treatment and whole heartily recommend it to all emotionally stable, healthy, sane, internet nerds out there.

wait
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Post by: Farren on November 10, 2009, 01:17:48 am
yeah dude ive tripped a couple times before. this is probably gonna be one of my bigger doses though (3.5 grams, splitting a quarter with someone) so im excited

also how is MDMA? ive been interested in trying it but ive heard its DaNgErOuS

Its the main ingredient in ecstacy but when taken pure it feels alot better. I haven't gotten my hands on the pure stuff yet but I've taken some really good ex. I don't imagine theres much a difference to the regular rolling. Also its like anything else you're taking the dangerous thing about taking mdma is suffering from dehydration, alot of people take it while raving and because it causes your body heat to crank up and alot of sweating it can drain your fluids fast. Get a bunch of orange juice and sip on that shit while you're rolling and its supposed to help keep the feeling strong. Also make sure you get some gum or something to chew on while you're doing it or you're going to be grinding your teeth.

And it feels like being on a roller coaster at the top of a really big drop down, that racing and excited feeling you get and just being that way for hours. Plus a general feeling of I CAN TAKE THE WORLD and free love. I've heard the comedown can be pretty rough sometimes though so you'd prolly wanna get ready for that. But I've never been too bothered by it then again I haven't taken pure rolls.

basically what buttkiller said, lots of loud music, lights, and you're really really really gonna wanna fuck. You can actually last AWHILE on that shit and makes sex better.

Despite all of the good things I said about it, rolling alot isn't something you'd wanna do. its a party drug, you take it and party and then stop taking it for awhile or bad things are bound to happen.
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Post by: Beasley on November 10, 2009, 01:32:28 am
come to boulder pure MDMA is common as dirt around here

it's actually a big problem; kids this age feel fucking invincible, they do not consider what that shit does to your body at all. i was in this category for a couple of months... i would basically do some form of molly prior to just about every concert i went to. i go to quite a few concerts, and it just doesn't feel that bad for you when you do it. my doses were not particularly high, but it's just not a good idea to set into those sort of habits without catching yourself, at least for a while
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Post by: Farren on November 10, 2009, 01:42:29 am
yeah dude, definitely. The people I know that do it and myself included keep it to infrequent occasions, its one of those things you do when you wanna go out and pretty much treat yourself.

its like dem chocolate don't eat lot off chocolate or u get fat an stoopid
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 10, 2009, 02:12:36 am
yeah obviously you don't want to overdo it especially if it's not pure. and the hydration thing but i figured everyone knows that already, everyone i've ever rolled with has been like YOU GOTTA KEEP DRINKING MAN OTHERWISE YOU DIE and people are generally pretty scared of dying
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on November 10, 2009, 02:13:33 am
But don't drink too much or you'll drop the electrolyte levels in your blood.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 10, 2009, 02:40:18 am
how about don't fucking worry about it so much because nothing bad is going to happen just stay hydrated.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 10, 2009, 05:24:22 am
and dont smoke cigarettes. honestly the worst fucking thing i've tasted when your mouth is dry
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 10, 2009, 09:30:04 am
Smoking is awful for you, but listerine strips and menthol cigarettes are probably the best thing ever on a good roll
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 10, 2009, 09:33:56 am
Pure mdma feels great, but the day after is fucking awful so take the next days schedule into consideration and pop a couple 5htp supplement capsules before you go to sleep

Also, don't do drugs. They're not good for you
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Post by: How We Became Fire on November 10, 2009, 09:49:51 am
While we are on the topic of MDMA, have any of you tried its analogues?  As great as MDMA is, my fondness for bk-MDMA (Methylone) blows it right out of the water.  Honestly.  A few reasons... (keep in mind these are my opinions!)

1.You know what you are getting.  I'm sure some of you have had encounters with piperzines/meth pills in the past.  These occurrence suck.  Have fun feeling cracked out.
2.Crash is easier to deal with. 
3.Still available online.

There is less of a rush and a shorter duration, but this isn't bad.
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Post by: fatty on November 10, 2009, 05:04:35 pm
I am a sociopath, I have the ability to feel guilt, it's not feeling any guilt I have a problem with, what is your point
anything to take off the pain
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Post by: PTizzle on November 11, 2009, 12:52:03 am
A group of British scientists and pharmacologists recently completed an in-depth study on the 20 most harmful drugs in British society and the results were fairly interesting; I figure this is relevant due to the ecstasy discussion.

1. Heroin
2. Cocaine
3. Barbituates
4. Methadone
5. Alcohol
6. Ketamine
7. Benzodiazepines
8. Amphetamines/Speed (but not Ice/Meth)
9. Tobacco
10. Buprenorphine (an opiate, it's used in the UK for getting people off heroin)
11. Cannabis (the newer research on this was a bit worrying in a few ways)
12. Solvents
13. 4MTA
14. LSD
15. Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
16. Anabolic Steroids
17. GHB
18. Ecstasy
19. Alkyl Nitrites (Poppers)
20. Khat

I found it interesting that they essentially said that Ecstasy isn't very harmful if used in moderation - a lot of it has to do with the stigma surrounding it. The main problem I have with the list is inhalants/solvents being number 12 - that shit is not cool and not safe in any way.

And before people come in and go WEED ISN'T DANGEROUS its caused a lot of problems for me and some other people I know, so yeah, it can be.

Also I think the reason Ice isn't on there is because it hasn't really 'hit' the UK like it has in America and Australia, otherwise I'm sure it'd be top 3.
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Post by: Farren on November 11, 2009, 01:57:41 am
but then that word "moderation" comes into effect. If you moderate your weed use you aren't as likely to get paranoia or anxiety or whatever its causing just as much as you aren't as likely to get fucked up off coke or ecstacy if you use it in moderation.

I think weed just got so high on the list because of its more widespread use than ecstacy and that people when using it don't usually tend to moderate themselves nearly as much. I might be wrong though cus I didn't read the study and you did.
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 11, 2009, 02:04:02 am
Interesting Ptizzle.  There is also this:
(http://pub.gamingw.net/31786/380px-Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.png)
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Post by: Farren on November 11, 2009, 02:08:21 am
also I can def see why methadone is so high on that list, that shit is a killer.
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Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2009, 02:22:52 am
yeah my dad got addicted to that shit for years while trying to kick heroin. he said the withdrawl was waaaaay worse than from heroin
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Post by: Schalt on November 11, 2009, 02:30:19 am
1. Anybody try firecrackers? I have a little bud left and was thinkin bout doin that.

2. Monetary consequences aside, if you ingest cannabis instead of smoke it, aren't there no negative health side effects?

3. Is it true that cannabis is good for cancer treatment? I see a lot of stuff around, mostly that it is good to stimulate the appetite for chemo patients and possibly pain relief/nausea treatment. But, do cannabinoids specifically bind to tumor sites, causing apoptosis of cancerous cells?
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 11, 2009, 03:14:30 am
3. Is it true that cannabis is good for cancer treatment? I see a lot of stuff around, mostly that it is good to stimulate the appetite for chemo patients and possibly pain relief/nausea treatment. But, do cannabinoids specifically bind to tumor sites, causing apoptosis of cancerous cells?
Don't quote me on this, but I'm sure I read that there are some cancers like Prostate of which cannabis can be helpful but then again it could possibly lead to some cancers (like lung maybe) but this is if you do it for a long time on a regular basis.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on November 11, 2009, 10:01:16 am
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1. Anybody try firecrackers? I have a little bud left and was thinkin bout doin that.

I like making firecrackers on occasion.  How much weed do you have left?  If it is less then two grams, you won't feel as strong of an affect as you'd probably like.  Two gram firecrackers always get me pretty lit.  Just have some time set aside, it lasts substantially longer than smoked weed.
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Post by: Massy2k6 on November 11, 2009, 10:47:48 am
I haven't a clue what half the things in Ptizzle's list are, am I the only person who hasn't tried drugs or have even come in contact with anything more than a cigarette... I'd probably try weed if I had any clue how to get my hands on it but alas, I'm a good little boy.
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Post by: Brown on November 11, 2009, 10:55:34 am
you are strong above the influence massy2k6. I am guessing the bad influence in your life is either minimal or absent. If neither are true you could be called a saint.
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Post by: Farren on November 11, 2009, 05:46:24 pm
I bet if you casually mentioned wanting to smoke weed to a few younger people you know someone would end up hooking you up pretty quick unless you hang out with bible beaters or something.
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Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2009, 05:50:09 pm
yeah finding weed is almost laughably easy. i live in fuckin CHRISTIAN TOWN USA and i can get it pretty much whenever.
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Post by: Kaworu on November 11, 2009, 05:51:48 pm
there are about 3-4 dealers within a one minute walk from my house
weed is easier to get hold of than fags/alcohol
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Post by: ATARI on November 11, 2009, 07:57:29 pm
im practically up to my neck in weed!!!!
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Post by: Kaworu on November 11, 2009, 07:58:26 pm
wearing a hemp turtleneck... nice
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Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2009, 09:34:17 pm
god damn my shrooms guy bailed on me again.
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Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2009, 10:06:17 pm
i thinik im just gonna start growing my own. anyone know any good guides for it or how difficult/expensive it is?
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 11, 2009, 10:06:20 pm
on another note, why is it so damn hard to find a reliable coke/mdma dealer?
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Post by: Ryan on November 11, 2009, 10:10:45 pm
i cant find reliable anything around here except weed :(
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 11, 2009, 10:53:53 pm
i fuckign drank cough syrup and ran around outside and broke my fucking leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Farren on November 12, 2009, 01:19:04 am
Ryan try asking dietcoke. He gave me a pretty good site that thoroughly explains how to do it and any other questions you've got. I've probably got it in my pms somewhere so I can look it up later if you can't get it from him.

I bought everything to do it and fucked it up, I got one more batch worth tucked away somewhere but I don't feel like fucking with it. Oh yeah how long do the spores last if you keep them in a syringe of water? maybe not....
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Post by: Schalt on November 12, 2009, 01:29:41 am
i thinik im just gonna start growing my own. anyone know any good guides for it or how difficult/expensive it is?

Start here: http://www.shroomery.org. I suggest this tek for first timers: http://www.shroomery.org/10256/PF-Tek-v2. It will be moderately difficult as you need to read that tek several times before you even start buying the supplies. All you really need is jars, vermiculite, organic brown rice, coffee grinder. My first grow consisted of those ingredients, and I ended up with about an ounce. You can sterilize the jars in a regular pot, so long as they don't touch the bottom (they will shatter.) A pressure cooker is very useful if you can afford it ($100+ for a good All American.) Get one if you are really serious. All supplies are usually very easy to find. Try Walmart first, as they will be the cheapest.

Oh yeah, you'll need an incubator as well as a fruiting chamber. There are many variations on these setups. My first time incubator (where the sterilized jars go after inoculation) was just a plastic bin left next to the radiator. It is highly advisable to get a fish tank heater and 2 large bins instead, as any drop in temp below 70 degrees will slow or halt mycelial growth. A fruiting chamber can be your windowsill, as long as it is a very humid windowsill.

Good luck if you decide to do this. It is hard work until you get the hang of it, but all worth it in the end. I can send you a spore print, if you'd like, though it's better if you buy a pre-filled syringe from one of the more reputable spore shops. Assuming you already have a good coffee grinder, it will cost about $35 bare minimum.

i fuckign drank cough syrup and ran around outside and broke my fucking leg!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly, I briefly considered telling you the other day to be careful with that shit, but I didn't say anything.

Fuckk, I'm sorry, man. :(

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Post by: alexjones on November 12, 2009, 01:31:13 am
drugs are bad, period.
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Post by: Rajew on November 12, 2009, 01:32:57 am
i'll stop drinking caffeine drinks and taking advil immediately, sir
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Post by: Farren on November 12, 2009, 01:44:46 am
NEVERMIND

thats the same site, I found it and was gonna pm you but he did it first.
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Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2009, 01:47:57 am
Start here: http://www.shroomery.org. I suggest this tek for first timers: http://www.shroomery.org/10256/PF-Tek-v2. It will be moderately difficult as you need to read that tek several times before you even start buying the supplies. All you really need is jars, vermiculite, organic brown rice, coffee grinder. My first grow consisted of those ingredients, and I ended up with about an ounce. You can sterilize the jars in a regular pot, so long as they don't touch the bottom (they will shatter.) A pressure cooker is very useful if you can afford it ($100+ for a good All American.) Get one if you are really serious. All supplies are usually very easy to find. Try Walmart first, as they will be the cheapest.

Oh yeah, you'll need an incubator as well as a fruiting chamber. There are many variations on these setups. My first time incubator (where the sterilized jars go after inoculation) was just a plastic bin left next to the radiator. It is highly advisable to get a fish tank heater and 2 large bins instead, as any drop in temp below 70 degrees will slow or halt mycelial growth. A fruiting chamber can be your windowsill, as long as it is a very humid windowsill.

Good luck if you decide to do this. It is hard work until you get the hang of it, but all worth it in the end. I can send you a spore print, if you'd like, though it's better if you buy a pre-filled syringe from one of the more reputable spore shops. Assuming you already have a good coffee grinder, it will cost about $35 bare minimum.

Honestly, I briefly considered telling you the other day to be careful with that shit, but I didn't say anything.

Fuckk, I'm sorry, man. :(


jesus dude that guide looks enormously more complex than this one

http://www.shroomery.org/8687/Shroom-Wizards-Grow-Guide
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Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2009, 01:52:26 am
i really want to do this but i am on a very limited budget right now ($100 or so tops)

i definitely can't afford a pressure cooker
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Post by: Farren on November 12, 2009, 02:11:56 am
you can use a big pot with boiling water instead, theres a faq in there that shows you how to do it.

The cooker is used to steam heat steralize the jars but you can do the same thing with the pot if you do it right. Or you could just borrow one, find some old lady that likes cooking shit. You only need it once for a couple hours at most.
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Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2009, 02:30:59 am
so if i buy a syringe or a spore print online how many would i need?
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Post by: Schalt on November 12, 2009, 02:53:32 am
Typically, a syringe will contain 10 ml of spore solution. 1 cc (or ml) per jar is sufficient. So, one syringe will do 10 jars, maybe a few less because if the plunger gets stuck, you will accidentally put too much into a jar or 3.

I would look around for a deal on syringe packs (Try the Spore Works), in case something goes wrong more than 1 is a good thing. Also, if you don't use it all you can store the remainder in a cool, dark place for a while. I would guess at least 6 months, but it varies.

Oh, and that tek I posted is just the most frequently mentioned one, especially for beginners. They all lead to essentially the same end result, just that one I posted is good because it goes into detail on the little pitfalls that can lead to failure/make you give up. You can save yourself a lot of trouble and ensure success if you do everything right the first time.
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Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2009, 03:14:06 am
yeah i'm definitely going to do this i think. is it really as difficult as that guide you posted makes it seem?
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Post by: Ryan on November 12, 2009, 03:18:10 am
ALSO: say i do 12 jars at a time, how many grams of shrooms much would i roughly get out of one batch?
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 12, 2009, 03:46:49 pm
i really want to do this but i am on a very limited budget right now ($100 or so tops)

i definitely can't afford a pressure cooker
yeah you can. go to goodwill, you can probably find one for like 25 bucks max.

It's really not that hard to grow the little guys, just keep everything sterile and immediately throw away anything that has mold/contamination.

Quote
ALSO: say i do 12 jars at a time, how many grams of shrooms much would i roughly get out of one batch?
It's all dependent on how well you did it and dumb luck, but if you don't fuck up too bad you're probably going to have more than you know what to do with.
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Post by: Farren on November 12, 2009, 05:46:46 pm
the jars are supposed to get white mold in them aren't they? I got black/green mold on a few of them when I did it and some white mold that didn't grow. Make sure you don't drop the lids on the floor after you steralize them and then brush them off and screw them on I'm pretty sure thats where I fucked it up.

And they've got to be at around 75 degrees so if its getting really cold where you're from then you might want to try to find a way too keep them a little warm bud def not hot.
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Post by: Madolah on November 13, 2009, 04:38:13 pm
so looking endlessly for seeds for at least 3 months, me and a friend finally stumbled upon like 8 in 2 days, but only 6 of them where suitable. 1 didnt hatch in our first batch, so we did another.
we are sporting 2 seeds at a time.

any other GW'rs have a mini grow?
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Post by: Beasley on November 13, 2009, 05:19:56 pm
haha can't find weed.

i have two dealers within 15 feet of my dorm.

COLLEGE  :rolleyes:

seriously though man drug users just LOVE to indoctrinate others, just mention that shit around the right peeps and youre on your way.....
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 13, 2009, 09:48:38 pm
so looking endlessly for seeds for at least 3 months, me and a friend finally stumbled upon like 8 in 2 days, but only 6 of them where suitable. 1 didnt hatch in our first batch, so we did another.
we are sporting 2 seeds at a time.

any other GW'rs have a mini grow?

i and everyone i know has tried this like a billion times but it has never worked
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Post by: Beasley on November 14, 2009, 12:11:18 am
DOSIN TONIGH AHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by: Beasley on November 14, 2009, 12:12:57 am
JK im not actually screaming

goin with some friends to the led zeppelin/pink floyd laser show at the planetarium. got a little snow this evening too which is supposed to be really neat lookin

then back to the dorms for some american spirits and some jam session or something

sweet or what
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 12:29:08 am
thats the most high school thing i've ever read. are you in high school
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Post by: Beasley on November 14, 2009, 12:32:52 am
im a freshman in college whats the problem nerd sounds like a good night to me
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Post by: Beasley on November 14, 2009, 12:34:43 am
buttkiller more like buzzkiller
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 14, 2009, 12:48:16 am
sounds pretty highschool man

have fun tho
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 12:49:33 am
im sdorry man it sounds like fun have a good time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i would go too tbh but it's just kind of like haha pink floyd.
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Post by: Terrorantula on November 14, 2009, 12:57:31 am
Since I'm on Schedule II meds  (Adderall, BTW) I normally avoid anything except alcohol- no sense mixing two powerful things with no idea of the effects.. I talked with my dad today saying i might want to try weed once and he reminded me that it;s illegal, but said that if I wanted to try it I should be careful and do it with someone I trust in a place I'm comfortable with, as it's likely that I'd not be the only doing it at the time.

-Edit- My dad said it's unlikely to interact with my meds but reminded me of the risks, and told abot his experiences in college. Meh.
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Post by: Farren on November 14, 2009, 02:02:39 am
no weed should not react with your medication or any other medication it is fucking weed

how old are you terrorantula? Are you still in highschool? if so I apologize for calling you a rectangle bastard I thought you were just stupid as hell.

buttkiller is my favorite new member

and beasley you should bring some mirrors and fuck with the lightshow.
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Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2009, 02:03:18 am
weed is the best medicine
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Post by: jamie on November 14, 2009, 02:05:29 am
if your ailment is a settled stomach
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 02:08:23 am
sdomeone took my weed when i was passed out on the ground. who the fuck does that. after i broke my leg and fucking passed out. SOMEONE TOOK MY WEED! now i'm at my house checking facebook every 20 minutes because i have no weed and one fucking usable leg. fuck the police
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Post by: Farren on November 14, 2009, 02:14:14 am
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alcohol- no sense mixing two powerful things with no idea of the effects..

ahahahaha I just noticed this. Some advice, weed > alcohol when it comes to mixing substances. one being pretty dangerous depending on what you're taking and the other not at all. But I don't know how adderall and alcohol work together so if you're so worried about mixing shit you prolly already asked your doctor.

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sdomeone took my weed when i was passed out on the ground. who the fuck does that. after i broke my leg and fucking passed out.

how did you break it? find them and beat them with you crutches
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 02:19:58 am
how did you break it? find them and beat them with you crutches

i blacked out and apparently started running very very fast and hit a stop sign. it was a pretty terrible stop sign because i didn't stop!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha

also alcohol and adderall is fine. i mean you're not going to die or anything. it's a lot of fun coming from a guy that blacked out and broke his leg a couple days ago.
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Post by: Farren on November 14, 2009, 02:28:21 am
did you take too much of something and black out or what?

if so that sign was telling you to stop taking so much shit.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 02:42:44 am
i got really super high and ughh drank some 2 bottles of cough syrup. it was pretty amazing from what i can remember actually but i got really paranoid at one point that there were ghost police rubbing against my legs and i started hiding behind trees and things and then i blacked out and then i broke my leg. nobody was sober enough to calm me down
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Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2009, 02:46:56 am
gonna try candyflipping when i take my trip to baltimore next month. im excited

anyone candyflipped before?
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Post by: Farren on November 14, 2009, 02:51:14 am
I have

its pretty much rolling (taking x) and tripping at the same time. The tripping part wasn't that powerful for me but my bro told me for him and a few other people it was a stronger trip than the hit of acid they took later. It was the reverse for me but I thats because I took a hit and a half and they only took one. I faintly saw some tracers out the corner of my eyes when I took it but yeah its some good shit if you get the good shit.

I think the orange juice rule applies for candyflipps too so if you wanna keep it strong make sure you got some on the side.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 14, 2009, 03:22:02 am
gonna try candyflipping when i take my trip to baltimore next month. im excited

anyone candyflipped before?

it is really the best thing in the whole world as long as you're getting pure mdma. i can only imagine amphetamine-laced shit would ruin the acid trip
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Post by: dark_james_griffin on November 16, 2009, 05:45:03 am
lmao shroomery.org are you kidding me
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 02:55:49 am
JK im not actually screaming

goin with some friends to the led zeppelin/pink floyd laser show at the planetarium. got a little snow this evening too which is supposed to be really neat lookin

then back to the dorms for some american spirits and some jam session or something

sweet or what
hey dude, me and the broskis are gonna hit the quad for some ultimate frisbee in the mud, it'll be tightro.

r u down brohommad ali?
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 02:56:13 am
asher fuckin roth
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Post by: goldenratio on November 17, 2009, 04:54:55 am
honestly dude how many times did someone make a "plane-arium" joke i bet it was at least 1
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Post by: dark_james_griffin on November 17, 2009, 05:49:30 am
this thread is fucking shit
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Post by: Ryan on November 17, 2009, 06:20:03 am
i got 6 tabs of acid.

i am so happy :-)
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 08:39:27 am
Eat all of it now
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Post by: Farren on November 17, 2009, 05:25:28 pm
dietcoke whats the most acid you've taken at one time?

My cousin said he took five hits once and he's bigger then me but still I find that hard to believe.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 18, 2009, 12:32:12 am
dietcoke whats the most acid you've taken at one time?

My cousin said he took five hits once and he's bigger then me but still I find that hard to believe.
i dunno, it's hard to measure. Every blotter/vial has a different amount in it. 

I really hadn't done acid until pretty recently and I've really cut down on my drug use the past couple years, so I've never taken it any further than a couple drops on my tongue from a glass vial of a pretty potent batch.
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Post by: Ryan on November 18, 2009, 12:34:04 am
i think im gonna take a blotter and a half this weekend, im excited. gonna go off into the woods and then get my friend to drive me around  :fogetcool:
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Soup Demon on November 21, 2009, 06:41:10 am
Cocaine has been the best/worst drug ever. Huge creative and mental progress followed by crippling depression for an hour or so.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 21, 2009, 03:05:28 pm
Cocaine has been the best/worst drug ever.

this. i feel like total shit right now. apparently it's also common to have erectile dysfunction which effin sucks
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 21, 2009, 03:26:46 pm
coke dick is p. embarrassing
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 21, 2009, 03:28:42 pm
coke is hella tight but if you do too much of it the inside of your nostrils will just disappear and you'll have one big nasty mucus-y cavern inside your nose with nothing in the middle of your nostrils.
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Post by: fatty on November 21, 2009, 04:30:04 pm
stop doing cocaine you dumbasses. snort zoloft.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 21, 2009, 06:09:47 pm
zoloft is an establishment mind control drug
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 21, 2009, 06:12:55 pm
coke is shipped in from latin america by the CIA and the profits are used to fund death squads across the planet as well as creating vicious criminal cartels that make normal people's lives hell
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: fatty on November 21, 2009, 09:25:49 pm
zoloft is an establishment mind control drug
I know, I saw it on Harold and Kumar
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 22, 2009, 02:32:51 am
jesus chirst i had the worst experience of my life today on acid

no fault of the acids though but jesus. i am still tripping balls and i am so depressed it is almost unbearable

i dont know if this was a 'bad trip' or not but ugh
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Post by: Evangel on November 22, 2009, 02:44:15 am
think happy thoughts
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 22, 2009, 02:50:24 am
jesus chirst i had the worst experience of my life today on acid

no fault of the acids though but jesus. i am still tripping balls and i am so depressed it is almost unbearable

i dont know if this was a 'bad trip' or not but ugh
dont be on the computer while you're tripping. if you're by any large body of water go there or go look up at the stars on a hill or something
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Post by: Ryan on November 22, 2009, 04:30:30 am
i am calming down i think. i smoked some weed and that really helped. this has been truly awful.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 22, 2009, 07:10:20 am
man now i'm scared to try
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Post by: Ryan on November 22, 2009, 04:18:37 pm
no it had nothing to do with the acid. the acid was fantastic i just had the girl i was dating (she took acid too) reveal to me that she's been cheating on me with my best friend right as i was peaking. he was babysitting us. i cant even describe how angry i was. why would anyone do that to someone while they were on acid
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Post by: Soup Demon on November 22, 2009, 05:00:54 pm
Oh man fuck dealing with IRL emotions on acid. It just exacerbates everything. You'll be fine in a bit, try not to dwell on any thought patterns you may have had as they are all worthless cross wiring.
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Post by: Farren on November 22, 2009, 05:33:08 pm
no it had nothing to do with the acid. the acid was fantastic i just had the girl i was dating (she took acid too) reveal to me that she's been cheating on me with my best friend right as i was peaking. he was babysitting us. i cant even describe how angry i was. why would anyone do that to someone while they were on acid

because like I said it makes you spill shit out that you normally wouldn't. It seems like you handled it well though, fuck that guy if you can handle it by yourself then go out and look at the stars or water like dietcoke said.

I'd so love to do acid or shrooms on a ship
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Post by: Ryan on November 22, 2009, 06:43:58 pm
that shit really intensifies emotion. i think i reached a level of anger that no human could really surpass lol

i was so about to beat some ass but we were at a park and i reallllly didn't want to get arrested while tripping my balls off with weed and a few acid tabs
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Post by: Schalt on November 22, 2009, 08:57:40 pm
holy shit. that sounds fucking awful. especially that you were on acid.

Probably this will sound dumb but the best thing to help dissipate residual anger, especially if u are planning on more acid in the near future, is go running every day for a couple weeks.

If you're like me, you won;'t even remember what u were mad at.
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Post by: fatty on November 22, 2009, 09:32:07 pm
Man Ryan, that sucks ballocks.
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 01:56:51 am
it turns out my friend who my girlfriend was cheating on me with has a website.

a website dedicated to power rangers fanfiction.

http://www.stylishknockouts.com/

he even uses my name as one of the characters. this is fuckin incredible.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 24, 2009, 01:58:37 am
hahahahaha

are you still dating her btw?
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 01:59:03 am
no, i told both of them i never wanted to see them again.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 02:03:29 am
good move
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 02:04:24 am
Fade In

          EXT. OLIVER'S YARD - AFTERNOON

          Oliver, Ryan, and Alexis are outside of Oliver's home.
          Oliver and Alexis begin sparring while Ryan watches on.

                              RYAN:
                    Ready! Go!

          Oliver attempts a roundhouse kick but Alexis ducks
          underneath. Alexis attempts a sweep kick but Oliver leaps
          into the air. Once Oliver returns to the ground he attempts
          a chop to which Alexis catches and flips him onto the
          ground.

                              ALEXIS:
                    Scared to hit a girl?

          Alexis laughs as she extends her hand helping Oliver to his
          feet.

                              RYAN:
                    The mighty Green Power Ranger is
                    beat by the Pink Ranger. Just wait
                    to Billy and Jason hear about this
                    one.
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 24, 2009, 02:12:42 am
Whoooaaaa
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 02:13:01 am
The crowd erupts in applause as Tommy Oliver approaches the
          stage to accept the honor. Sensei sits down giving Tommy the
          floor. The former Dino Thunder Rangers in the crowd.
          Although they've gotten older, they all retain their
          childlike personalities.

                              DINO THUNDER RANGERS:
                    Alright Dr. O!

          Tommy waves to the crowd.

                              TOMMY:
                    Thank you. Thank you very much.
                    Wow, this is such an honor for me
                    to be on this stage with those who
                    I idolized as a child.

                              SENSEI:
                    Now you make me feel old.

          Everyone laughs.
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 02:14:23 am
i can't tell what's worse, the fact that a 19 year old has a website dedicated to power rangers fan fiction or the fact that my girlfriend cheated on me with this asshole
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 02:23:48 am
that's so not dope
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Post by: Schalt on November 24, 2009, 02:25:42 am
          INT. TAREN'S HOME - MORNING

          Oliver is sitting on Taren's couch as she walks in with a
          bowl of popcorn.

                              TAREN:
                    Alright you've got to choose
                    between "Knocked Up" or "Tropic
                    Thunder".

                              OLIVER:
                    Oh I love Seth Rogan.

                              TAREN:
                    "Knocked Up" it is then.

          Taren inserts the DVD into the DVD player and sits down on
          the couch next to Oliver with the popcorn. Oliver grabs a
          piece of popcorn and throws it at her. She returns the
          favor. They begin throwing it quicker as they laugh trying
          to hit each other. Taren grabs the bowl of popcoarn and
          places it on Oliver's head. Their laughter eventually dies
          down and they look at each other seriously. Taren leans in
          and kisses Oliver. Oliver pulls away.

                              OLIVER:
                    Taren I can't do this.

                              TAREN:
                    I want you to.

          Taren kisses Oliver again as they begin to kiss deeply and
          lay down.
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Post by: fatty on November 24, 2009, 02:48:37 am
Wait, is this real? This is a joke. I am now going to think of this as a joke.
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Post by: Schalt on November 24, 2009, 02:51:52 am
It seems a little unreal...I thought I had crazy ideas,  only to discover 19 year old power ranger fan fiction writer.

...Tonight I am dosing 12 mg melatonin at 10:30. Usually I don' take more than 9 mg. At this level I expect to hallucinate pretty good.

I am smoking a ton of weed also, in a new bong!!!
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 02:52:29 am
no, it's not a joke. shaun mccall is the asshole that was fucking my girlfriend and pretty much caused me to have a bad trip saturday. he writes power rangers fanfiction.
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Post by: Buttkiller on November 24, 2009, 03:00:27 am
It seems a little unreal...I thought I had crazy ideas,  only to discover 19 year old power ranger fan fiction writer.

...Tonight I am dosing 12 mg melatonin at 10:30. Usually I don' take more than 9 mg. At this level I expect to hallucinate pretty good.

lol you dont hallucinateeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by: Schalt on November 24, 2009, 03:03:14 am
I had some closed eye visuals, just random faces and weird shit though, on high dosage marijuana.

Melatonin seems to intensify the effects.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on November 24, 2009, 03:08:56 am
Today I picked up a mushroom from the park and ate it, so nothing happened for several hours but now I'm experiencing severe itching and side pain is that a bad trip? How long does it take to go away?
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 24, 2009, 03:10:24 am
That's ain't right ryan. I'm telling you that ain't right right there.

To be fair though when you guys had sex it was probably just boring old sweaty human wranglings, no offense. When she was with Shaun McCall it was like the beautiful process of 2 zords joining together into a megazord
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 03:23:57 am
good point big ass skelly
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 24, 2009, 03:36:14 am
what I want to know is how a 19 year old who writes power rangers fanfic was your best friend
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 04:02:13 am
i had no idea he wrote this shit lol. good point though
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 04:06:14 am
         INT. ANGEL GROVE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HALLWAY - MORNING

          Ryan catches up to Oliver.

                              RYAN:
                    Dude this dance is going to own! I
                    got the perfect girl in mind.

                              OLIVER:
                    Who?

          Ryan points across the room. Oliver looks and sees a
          beautiful female throwing trash away. Her hair is blonde
          with one pink streak.

                              RYAN:
                    Alexis Graves.

          Oliver pats Ryan on the back.

                              OLIVER:
                    Nice. Well while you go show her
                    the moves I taught you, I'll be in
                    the game room.

                              RYAN:
                         (Laughs)
                    Alright later Oliver.
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 04:09:10 am
                      JASON:
                    Back when I was your age...

          A flashback begins to play.

                              JASON:
                    I was asked by a man named Zordon
                    to help defend the Earth from a
                    sorceress named Rita Repulsa.

                              ZORDAN: (O.S)
                    Alpha, Rita's escaped. Recruit a
                    team of teenagers with attitude!

                              JASON:
                    Together me and four others banded
                    together to become known as the
                    Power Rangers.

          Jason shows him the Tyrannosaurus Coin.

                              JASON:
                    This was my coin, the
                    Tyrannosaurus.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on November 24, 2009, 06:05:03 am
im sorry that happened to you but man you can laugh your ass off at her so hard
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Post by: CodeBLACK on November 24, 2009, 06:53:21 am
For real. Next time you run into her, just point and laugh uproariously.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 06:57:47 am
How'd she break the bad news? Was she all tripping and like, yo ryan hate to have it go down like this but me and your main man been boning down for a while
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Post by: Marmot on November 24, 2009, 08:21:20 am
i smoked a lot of weed and drank a lot of whisky and some kid was telling me his conspiracy about who controls the US, which according to him are the descendants of the sds and the weathermen so  i just starting going on and on about reptoids and how the earth was flat
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 08:40:48 am
i smoked a lot of weed and drank a lot of whisky and some kid was telling me his conspiracy about who controls the US, which according to him are the descendants of the sds and the weathermen so  i just starting going on and on about reptoids and how the earth was flat
man I love me a conspiracy but really? Sds and weathermen? I get the whole masons rockerfellers royalty catholics etc, but man a bunch of old student activists and burnout focoist failures runnin shit is fuckin wack
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Post by: Marmot on November 24, 2009, 08:44:07 am
he is crazy man and if it werent his weed and he wasnt my friend i would have been hella mean so i just sent some subtle trolls. he is one of those nasty libertarians conspiracy people. he didnt get it because he kept taking it seriously and saying shit like "maaaan, that sounds wrong, what about this etc etc". i said that the moon landing was a hollywood invention, and he went on that this was impossible because so much money was used in it so we can actually track it. i just said they pulled a joker and burnt it.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 09:01:27 am
LOL just a bunch of NASA scientists having a cash bonfire on cape Canaveral like "booya taxpayers"
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: fatty on November 24, 2009, 12:29:17 pm
                      JASON:
                    Back when I was your age...

          A flashback begins to play.

                              JASON:
                    I was asked by a man named Zordon
                    to help defend the Earth from a
                    sorceress named Rita Repulsa.

                              ZORDAN: (O.S)
                    Alpha, Rita's escaped. Recruit a
                    team of teenagers with attitude!

                              JASON:
                    Together me and four others banded
                    together to become known as the
                    Power Rangers.

          Jason shows him the Tyrannosaurus Coin.

                              JASON:
                    This was my coin, the
                    Tyrannosaurus.
I refuse to believe that this guy borked your girlfriend. Or anyone else.
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 01:47:07 pm
How'd she break the bad news? Was she all tripping and like, yo ryan hate to have it go down like this but me and your main man been boning down for a while

we were down at the park and they just started kissing and shit. like right next to me. i was tripping so hard at first i thought i was just seeing shit.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 24, 2009, 03:52:17 pm
we were down at the park and they just started kissing and shit. like right next to me. i was tripping so hard at first i thought i was just seeing shit.
jesus christ, that's wicked cold.

how did they explain themselves man cuz I just want to watch that situation. dudes all making out with this chick on acid while her boyfriend/his best bud is right there trippin too and he's completely sober like "yeah bro, im hittin' this, what now?"  :shrug:

and what the fuck did she say all tripped out?

the hell was going through your mind?

I feel for you, but that whole situation is the most interesting thing
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Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 05:45:10 pm
well let me put it in context:

basically the weekend before last me, Shaun, and Hannah (the girl i was dating) and one of my other friends all got caught smoking weed by my mom. she kicked all of us out. Hannah called her cousin to come pick her up and essentially ditched me (i thought i was homeless at the time). starting that night I used Shaun's phone to text her because they both had verizon and she didn't have free texts or something. after that night I felt completely awful emotionally, and i talked to Shaun a lot about how I felt. apparently since then he started texting her himself, and started trying to GET WITH HER or something. he basically used me confiding in him emotionally as a gateway to talk to her. i had noticed that he was texting her and talking to her every now and then, but i didn't know the extent. basically i trusted him to not be a totally fucking awful person.

saturday he picked me up and hannah up because i had asked him to babysit us while we were on acid. he drove us down to the park near the river and by this time i was tripping really hard so i was kind of out of it. i had noticed (or thought i noticed) they were holding hands or something once, but it was kind of hard to distinguish shit considering everything was moving and morphing. while we were walking on the bridge and looking over the railing i saw them kiss. i was hit with such an overwhelming anger that it literally looked like one of those anime scenes where the spark goes off in front of someones face. my vision turned red and i could like see the blood pumping in my fists. as soon as Shaun noticed that i had noticed (i guess he thought i was tripping too hard to notice or something? what a douche) he started asking me 'what's wrong? what's wrong?' and then he kind of walked off ahead of us. i stormed off after him. when i caught up with him i was literally about to beat him to death but it was near the parking lot and there were a lot of people around and i didn't want to get arrested on LSD with a bag of weed and 2 more tabs in my pocket. i was tripping so hard though that i literally couldn't see shit more than 10 feet away with any clarity. we all got in his car and by this time i was just completely out of it. all i could think about was how angry i was. he drove around a bit (he got lost and i wouldn't give him directions) and he fucking stops at mcdonalds and orders the meal i usually make for myself when i get off work (he worked with me for a month or two before getting fired). he literally did this. then he drove us back to hannahs house and me and him got in an argument for like 2 hours. i was still tripping pretty badly but by this time i was coherent enough to think straight. his rationale was 'you cant help who you like' and he thought me and her were 'over' or something. i told both of them i never wanted to see them again and i told shaun that if he didn't take me home i'd get my mom to come pick me up but i'd also call his mom and tell him that he got caught with weed a few weeks ago. he took me home. by the time i got home i started to really freak out and had a pretty terrifying experience before falling asleep around 12:30am.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Buttkiller on November 24, 2009, 08:24:50 pm
oh wow. that sucks for real. sorry.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on November 24, 2009, 10:03:37 pm
man that all really sucks, but ordering the same food as you? thats too far. he should be a dead man.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 24, 2009, 10:05:11 pm
no he bought it for me. i cant remember but i think i threw it at him. i was tripping so hard at that point though that i dont even really remember much
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on November 25, 2009, 03:11:13 am
Ryan you need to find better friends.

move to florida and I'll let you live in my shed and you can teach me guitar. I promise I won't fuck your girlfriend unless you says its ok.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2009, 03:12:00 am
no kiddin. fuck lynchburg
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on November 25, 2009, 03:16:45 am
Im just kidding i would never think of going where a power rangers been
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2009, 03:20:47 am
   INT. BATHROOM - EVENING

          Ryan rushes into the stall. He rips off his pants and sits
          down. The viewers can slightly see black boots in the other
          stall. As Ryan finishes the boots begin moving and exit the
          stall. Ryan pulls the toilet paper. He notices some
          resistance from inside of the container you can see a wire
          connected to the toilet paper. Ryan jerks the toilet paper.
          The container opens and a gunshot is heard. Ryan flinches
          before realizing it's a cap gun.

                              RYAN:
                         (Relieved)
                    It's a cap gun. Damn that scared
                    the hell out of me.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 25, 2009, 04:02:09 am
lol your best friend literally thought of you in that situation and managed to work that into a power ranger's fanfic

...then he put that shit up on the world wide web
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on November 28, 2009, 04:15:01 am
well let me put it in context:
 :fogetinsane:

Wow, that's an incredibly bad trip.  I've been in incredibly awkward social situations while tripping, so I know the feeling, but that's just a really bad situation.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 28, 2009, 04:18:02 am
i'm heading up to JMU next week sometime to trip with this really cool marxist chick who went to high school with me, so hopefully it will be a much better experience
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 28, 2009, 04:25:28 am
How can you meet so many awful people
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 28, 2009, 04:27:40 am
i like to attribute it to where i live but i don't really know!
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on November 28, 2009, 04:37:36 am
your ex-bro has a lot of talent.  you know he just dreams of getting picked up by a studio to write for the next power rangers series.

Quote
Fade In

          INT. OLIVER'S HOME - AFTERNOON

          Oliver is typing on his computer when Ryan walks up from
          behind.

                              RYAN:
                    What are you doing?

                              OLIVER:
                    Oh hey, nothing really just setting
                    up an account on this site.

                              RYAN:
                    What's that?

                              OLIVER:
                    ThePerfectCatch.com, it's a dating
                    website. I think I want to get back
                    out there.

                              RYAN:
                         (Pats Oliver's back)
                    That's awesome man, but I thought
                    you and Darcy had something going
                    on?

                              OLIVER:
                    Eh, I don't know if I'm ready to
                    get back into a committed
                    relationship so soon.

                              RYAN:
                    Well then what are you doing on the
                    website?

                              OLIVER:
                    I don't know, I just what to see
                    what's out there.

                              RYAN:
                         (Taking a sip of his coffee)
                    Ah, well good luck.

                              OLIVER:
                    Thanks.

but what a douche.  it's one thing to take your friend's girl, but that's unthinkable to engage like that right in front of you in such a sensitive state of mind.  i don't even know what to say about the girl.  anyway, forget that hussy forever.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 28, 2009, 04:54:51 am
fuck em.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 28, 2009, 05:07:48 am
Just when you think you've seen it all eh?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 28, 2009, 06:36:12 am
that guy is so lame, every situation he could take advantage he did. im sorry dude.
you'll meet waaaay better people. just curious though where do you live?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on November 30, 2009, 10:07:47 pm
 Ryan stands up and turns to Oliver.

                              RYAN:
                    Because your father asked me. I
                    have respect! Something you need to
                    learn!

                              OLIVER:
                    What are you talking about?

                              RYAN:
                    Don't play stupid with me Oliver. I
                    saw you and Alexis at the dance. I
                    heard you on the phone telling her
                    you were on your way. When that bee
                    guy was at the dance, I went
                    looking for you, but you and Alexis
                    both were gone! You knew I liked
                    her Oliver! You had to be damned
                    BLIND not to see it! But that
                    didn't matter to you did it? So you
                    went behind your own best friend's
                    back to take her! Some friend you
                    are!

          Ryan storms away. Oliver doesn't understand. Ryan turns
          around as he gets to the top of a hill.

                              RYAN:
                    And don't think just because I'm a
                    Power Ranger that it changes
                    anything between us!

          Ryan walks away out of sight. Oliver stares back at the pond
          and shakes his head.

:hmm:
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: CodeBLACK on November 30, 2009, 10:31:38 pm

                              RYAN:
                    And don't think just because I'm a
                    Power Ranger that it changes
                    anything between us!

       

This is excellent.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: big ass skelly on November 30, 2009, 11:10:40 pm
rofl
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on November 30, 2009, 11:21:12 pm
Ryan stands up and turns to Oliver.

                              RYAN:
                    Because your father asked me. I
                    have respect! Something you need to
                    learn!

                              OLIVER:
                    What are you talking about?

                              RYAN:
                    Don't play stupid with me Oliver. I
                    saw you and Alexis at the dance. I
                    heard you on the phone telling her
                    you were on your way. When that bee
                    guy was at the dance, I went
                    looking for you, but you and Alexis
                    both were gone! You knew I liked
                    her Oliver! You had to be damned
                    BLIND not to see it! But that
                    didn't matter to you did it? So you
                    went behind your own best friend's
                    back to take her! Some friend you
                    are!

          Ryan storms away. Oliver doesn't understand. Ryan turns
          around as he gets to the top of a hill.

                              RYAN:
                    And don't think just because I'm a
                    Power Ranger that it changes
                    anything between us!

          Ryan walks away out of sight. Oliver stares back at the pond
          and shakes his head.

:hmm:

lol
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on December 01, 2009, 12:45:10 am
Ryan, are you a Power Ranger?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2009, 12:46:50 am
im the red ranger bitch
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: bort on December 01, 2009, 01:07:52 am
actual psychedelic cuckoldry reinterpreted as (fan)fictional power ranger drama

hm.

did this come after or before your acid day?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2009, 01:09:06 am
i'm not sure! i'm assuming before though
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on December 01, 2009, 01:28:29 am
he wasnt on acid tho was he
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Ryan on December 01, 2009, 01:41:14 am
no he was sober
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Post by: the bloddy ghost on December 01, 2009, 01:43:48 am
fuck em.

that guy is a major dick.  from the people you know, it sounds like our towns have similar kinds of crazies. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone writing Power Rangers fanfics, but one of my exes liked to do erotic star wars RPs. I almost broke up with her over this.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Evangel on December 01, 2009, 01:48:46 am
Hey, what is wrong with that?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on December 01, 2009, 02:03:39 am
AAHAHAHAHAHA holy shit, power ranger AHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

man

this is really good

this is like the funniest shit ever

atleast you got something good out of it ryan
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on January 05, 2010, 05:41:23 pm
Its bad when i leave for a month and theres still no new posts here...
Anyway Did Acid the other night, first time my buddy and GF tried it, it was the 4 of us and I did 2 then other an hour later.
We had a grand 'ol time on the "boat" of a bed chatting all night and playin games.

Has anyone else done acid and realised that you rewind time alot... like have a 5 minute convo then rewind to explain the convo to others, then be back to the end of the convo, and start a new one and repeat.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Buttkiller on January 05, 2010, 08:10:36 pm
Has anyone else done acid and realised that you rewind time alot... like have a 5 minute convo then rewind to explain the convo to others, then be back to the end of the convo, and start a new one and repeat.

yes it's the best thing
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 21, 2010, 07:49:26 pm
lets talk a bout dmt


is this guy fucked up or what
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: falconshield on January 21, 2010, 09:01:55 pm
I cant be arsed to read the other posts but - I like weed. That's my 50 cent. Have never composed music under the influence though, but I'd like to.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Buttkiller on January 21, 2010, 09:11:37 pm
Have never composed music under the influence though, but I'd like to.

you just kind of automatically do

just pick up an instrument and try. i made an awesome thing on acoustic guitar that sounded like a robot gasping for air in 5/4 time but i forgot how to do it
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Post by: falconshield on January 21, 2010, 09:14:31 pm
Yeah...but all my instruments are at the studio so I'd just record it right away... only problem is that I might forget how to operate the machinery hehe...
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on January 22, 2010, 04:26:13 am
I hate to admit it but I've been buying a lot of coke lately.. I don't get any urges or anything its just when I'm drunk I feel like I NEED IT to get more fucked up or something. Going to stay away from it while I can, such a waste of cash.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brown on January 22, 2010, 04:31:25 am
Are you a pot smoker too? I'd suggest just doubling the weed dose when drunk that will get you pretty fucked up and save you from getting coke. if you dont smoke weed then i dunno man you should probably start it lol as bad as that sounds.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brad on January 22, 2010, 04:35:27 am
I've been weed-free for like 7 months now.. that's an accomplishment seeing as almost every single person I hang out with smokes alot of pot on a daily basis. But the feeling I get at work the next day pretty much makes me learn my lesson I guess.. but I can't always predict what drunk Brad has to say about that.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: How We Became Fire on January 22, 2010, 05:56:01 am
Quote
Has anyone else done acid and realised that you rewind time alot... like have a 5 minute convo then rewind to explain the convo to others, then be back to the end of the convo, and start a new one and repeat.

I went to one of the infamous "parties" (i.e. raves) in L.A. this last weekend and ended up taking 4 hits of LSD.  I am really surprised at how easily obtainable it is down here.  We aren't that lucky in Seattle.  I was having the same problem as you.  It happens to me every time I have taken LSD.  I think that the extreme time dilation that acid tends to create for the user is to blame for this phenomenon.

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lets talk a bout dmt

DMT is gods gift to mankind.  Seriously though, I am relatively comfortable with the drug and I am still scared as hell to take the hit.  I have had 200mgs of 5-meo-dmt sitting in my freezer for almost a year and I have manned up and smoked it maybe 5 times.  Having a bad trip on DMT or any of its analogues can be pretty nightmarish so set and setting is really important for me.  I find it really strange that the DEA decided to make it schedule one.  You think they would be cracking down on RC's that are obviously dangerous and addicting (Mephedrone, MDPV, and the like).  Quit scheduling the stuff that really can help give people life changing experiences. > :(
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Post by: Barack Obama on January 22, 2010, 09:47:32 am
I went to one of the infamous "parties" (i.e. raves) in L.A. this last weekend and ended up taking 4 hits of LSD.  I am really surprised at how easily obtainable it is down here.  We aren't that lucky in Seattle.  I was having the same problem as you.  It happens to me every time I have taken LSD.  I think that the extreme time dilation that acid tends to create for the user is to blame for this phenomenon.

DMT is gods gift to mankind.  Seriously though, I am relatively comfortable with the drug and I am still scared as hell to take the hit.  I have had 200mgs of 5-meo-dmt sitting in my freezer for almost a year and I have manned up and smoked it maybe 5 times.  Having a bad trip on DMT or any of its analogues can be pretty nightmarish so set and setting is really important for me.  I find it really strange that the DEA decided to make it schedule one.  You think they would be cracking down on RC's that are obviously dangerous and addicting (Mephedrone, MDPV, and the like).  Quit scheduling the stuff that really can help give people life changing experiences. > :(
there's plenty of acid in Seattle, you just gotta know the right folks because the supply chain is pretty narrow.

N,n-Dmt on the other hand is rare everywhere and you're better off extracting it yourself from various grasses and bark. You're definitely right about bad Dmt trips, that stuff will put you in another world for a good 10 minutes which can seem like forever if you've got any latent anxieties that can hold you back from ego loss. I haven't done it in almost a year and I still get some chills thinking about how nuts that stuff can be at high doses
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Post by: Buttkiller on January 22, 2010, 11:04:45 am
whats the easiest/quickest way to achieve ego death
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 22, 2010, 11:06:40 am
whats the easiest/quickest way to achieve ego death
A clear head and four or five huge hits of freebase n,n-dmt

Maybe five or so dried grams of mushrooms but that lasts so long I wouldn't say its easy
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Buttkiller on January 22, 2010, 11:10:31 am
but dmt is stupid hard to find : - \

and i took a quarter of shrooms once and didn't experience anything close to ego los
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 22, 2010, 11:36:06 am
 Take more or do itagain with an empty stomach and lots of orange juice
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 22, 2010, 11:38:21 am
The stuff you need to extract enough dmt for personal use are pretty easy to get ahold of look into it if you're really interested
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Carrion Crow on January 22, 2010, 12:28:42 pm
This thread is such bullshit
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 22, 2010, 07:10:02 pm
my ego died with acid

I want it back now
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: technohive on January 23, 2010, 05:28:10 am
One thing which I dont like about drugs is the outcome of that drugs when you continuously use it . I dont try it because I dont know if I can learn to control myself if I do
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 23, 2010, 09:43:12 am
I hate to admit it but I've been buying a lot of coke lately.. I don't get any urges or anything its just when I'm drunk I feel like I NEED IT to get more fucked up or something. Going to stay away from it while I can, such a waste of cash.
give it to me. Ill do it and talk to you for a few hours about why you don't need it
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on January 23, 2010, 06:08:58 pm
my ego died with acid

I want it back now

You are referring to the acid right?

You know that the other is a lot easier to come by naturally anyhow. It'll come back to you soon enough if you are patient. (You are using personal pronouns already, and that's certainly a step in the right direction.)

I just want some acid. My ego needs an ego check, and another near-death experience is just what the doctor ordered.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: QWERTYger on January 24, 2010, 10:53:47 am
coke is. Crazy sells quik if u aint lazy.betta than crack cus that shits wack. Weed4 lyfe nigga though
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 05:29:01 am
im fucked up on somas. somas are cool. i took 2 then like another one 30 mins later and another one 30 mins after that. im f'd.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 25, 2010, 05:50:17 am
whats a soma
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 05:57:02 am
its a muscle relaxant. they are pretty nice, but short acting. they are sort of wearing off I think but taking more won't really do anything. I get a shitload of them for free, and usually my gf uses them for stuff she needs, but I just got a whole lot but so I took a bunch. FUCK IT. I guess I'll stop now though.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 09:56:32 pm
hoy sht, i took thos four last night and i ddnt manged to wake up. my gf work me up in time, but i came hom e early brecuae i didnt feel gfood. I took 2 more and I am FUCK ED UP. it hit me pretty hard ( havent eated anything all day). my mtor skills are seriously impaired.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Brown on January 25, 2010, 10:03:16 pm
you're addicted gr
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 11:33:10 pm
no i dont hardly take them at all. i get em for free and i got shitload so i took a bunch because fuck it.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 25, 2010, 11:35:51 pm
valium is the shit. I go easy on the things because I've heard benzo addictions are rough as those associated with opiates, but goddamn I love popping a little blue 10mg and just coasting through the day walking around downtown not givin' a fuck about nothin' once or twice a month.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 25, 2010, 11:46:32 pm
my buddy told me soma are sleeping pills, maybe thats why you didn't wake up

I'm on percasets myself I dunno if I spelled that right
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 25, 2010, 11:47:38 pm
I dont like taking alot of them either but I been taking alot my two weeks

gotta stop tomorrow though
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 11:50:10 pm
Valiums didn't really do anything for me. If I could find some i'd give em a try again, just to be sure. Xanax definitely gets me good. Somas aren't my favorite (too short lasting) but I can get them for free so whatever. i'd prefer some opiate, but somas are cool. nice and mellow. they help me sleep but if I take too many I have trouble getting up.

edit: somas are muscle relaxants. They can make people drowsy I guess. I don't get drowsy but when I take too many I have touble waking up. 1 or 2 and I can usually wake up fine.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 25, 2010, 11:57:00 pm
i've got a bunch of xanax around as well but I usually don't take them, I originally got them when I was into messing around with psychedelics and those little bars can be a sanity-saver when things start taking a bad turn.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: goldenratio on January 25, 2010, 11:59:37 pm
I wish I would have had some of those on some of my bad trips. I think i'll plan a massive trip and be prepared as such sometime in the semi-near future. i have like 2oz of dried san pedro... maybe ill get another 2 and make some tea.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 26, 2010, 12:35:06 am
what does the xanax do for a trip?

I've never heard that before, what a nifty trick.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Barack Obama on January 26, 2010, 01:04:15 am
what does the xanax do for a trip?

I've never heard that before, what a nifty trick.
pretty much kills it and puts you to sleep
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on January 26, 2010, 03:32:25 am
I wish I knew about that before
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: esp on January 28, 2010, 04:09:21 pm
i just went on a mephedrone (a (kinda) legal drug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone) binge; it's alright. i felt really awake, stimulated, and chatted absolute shit to my friends for like 8 hours. it was kinda fun but it's really rough on the nose, which right now is feeling really irritated. i'm pretty sure it's not good for your body in general either.

it's ok but i don't think i'll be doing it again for a while.
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Post by: Barack Obama on January 28, 2010, 10:25:14 pm
i just went on a mephedrone (a (kinda) legal drug http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mephedrone) binge; it's alright. i felt really awake, stimulated, and chatted absolute shit to my friends for like 8 hours. it was kinda fun but it's really rough on the nose, which right now is feeling really irritated. i'm pretty sure it's not good for your body in general either.

it's ok but i don't think i'll be doing it again for a while.

How is mephedrone? I've got a gram of methylone that I've been meaning to use but I never have the time
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Post by: goldenratio on January 29, 2010, 01:10:23 am
jesus i have this bottle of somas just staring at me it sreally hard to not take them you guys. i think im going to take another 1 (or maybe 2...) tonight...
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Post by: jenifermary on January 29, 2010, 06:59:34 am
I am totally opposed of taking drugs.Life is too short just live it hapily and make oters happy.Life is so beautiful then why to make an end of your life by taking the poison......
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Post by: Barack Obama on January 29, 2010, 07:44:45 am
I am totally opposed of taking drugs.Life is too short just live it hapily and make oters happy.Life is so beautiful then why to make an end of your life by taking the poison......
better living through chemistry baby

Most drugs talked about here have a higher LD50 than tylenol BTW
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Post by: Carrion Crow on January 29, 2010, 07:47:25 am
GR if you take muscle relaxant doesn't that make you poo yourself?
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Post by: Barack Obama on January 29, 2010, 08:08:42 am
GR if you take muscle relaxant doesn't that make you poo yourself?

That's the whole point dogg
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Post by: How We Became Fire on January 29, 2010, 10:03:19 am
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How is mephedrone? I've got a gram of methylone that I've been meaning to use but I never have the time

Dietcoke have you read up on Mephedrone at all?  There is some pretty strong belief that it is cardiotoxic and many people are experiencing scary effects.  Blue appendages, heart murmurs, numbing of limbs.  I'm usually ready to dive head first into new drugs but I'd steer clear of this one for now.  Methylone is a whole different story.  If you like MDMA and don't mind something a bit more speedy and short in duration, give it a try.  How much do you have available?  250mg would be a good place to get your feet wet but I've taken up to a gram in one session.  The next day can be rough though.  Apathy, lethargy, the usual post-mdma effects.  I honestly prefer Methylone more...

One a side note, I finally procured a gram of Ketamine.  K-holing was and wasn't what I was expecting simultaneously.  It was giving me flashbacks of my cough syrup chugging youth but at the same time felt clean and right.  This was a 200mg line insufflated btw. 
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Post by: Barack Obama on January 29, 2010, 10:55:14 am
Mephedrone sounds awful! No thanks.

I've been sitting on the methylone for a while and don't have a scale ATM some I'm a little wary of just eyeballing it, even though I got it from a trustworthy source that even provides gcms analysis of the products. If its something you can go through a gram of and be fine, then I think ill give it a whirl with some friends this weekend
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Post by: esp on January 29, 2010, 05:03:49 pm
Dietcoke have you read up on Mephedrone at all?  There is some pretty strong belief that it is cardiotoxic and many people are experiencing scary effects.  Blue appendages, heart murmurs, numbing of limbs.  I'm usually ready to dive head first into new drugs but I'd steer clear of this one for now.  Methylone is a whole different story.  If you like MDMA and don't mind something a bit more speedy and short in duration, give it a try.  How much do you have available?  250mg would be a good place to get your feet wet but I've taken up to a gram in one session.  The next day can be rough though.  Apathy, lethargy, the usual post-mdma effects.  I honestly prefer Methylone more...

One a side note, I finally procured a gram of Ketamine.  K-holing was and wasn't what I was expecting simultaneously.  It was giving me flashbacks of my cough syrup chugging youth but at the same time felt clean and right.  This was a 200mg line insufflated btw. 

From what you're describing it sounds like Methylone and Mephedrone have similar effects, as I'd describe Mephedrone's effects exactly as speedy MDMA, although perhaps more emphasis on the "speedy" than Methylone I guess. I hadn't really read up on the bad effects, it was kind of a spontaneous thing when my buddy came round with a couple of grams and I ended up taking it all night, but now I've heard of them I'm staying away from it for a while. The next day for me was very bad, like the "happy switch" had been turned off in my brain and I became very depressed for a few hours. Physically I had weird arm twitches, cold fingers and my lips are still very dry, I think because I was subconciously licking them all night. Perhaps I'd be better off trying Methylone, although I don't really try drugs very often and don't plan to again for a while.
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Post by: Doktormartini on January 29, 2010, 06:07:06 pm
better living through chemistry baby

Most drugs talked about here have a higher LD50 than tylenol BTW
owned
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Post by: meat.lover on January 29, 2010, 10:36:38 pm
pwned bitch, getout of this thread
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Post by: How We Became Fire on January 30, 2010, 07:00:44 am
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I've been sitting on the methylone for a while and don't have a scale ATM some I'm a little wary of just eyeballing it, even though I got it from a trustworthy source that even provides gcms analysis of the products. If its something you can go through a gram of and be fine, then I think ill give it a whirl with some friends this weekend

If you know the total amount you have just put in into solution.  I do this with pretty much everything.  Accurate dosing and such.  Let me know how it goes for you, Methylone still sits on a pedestal for me.  I just don't like crashing on stimulants and have had addiction problems with them in the past.  I know when it is time for me to stay away.  Enjoy yourself :)

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From what you're describing it sounds like Methylone and Mephedrone have similar effects, as I'd describe Mephedrone's effects exactly as speedy MDMA, although perhaps more emphasis on the "speedy" than Methylone I guess. I hadn't really read up on the bad effects, it was kind of a spontaneous thing when my buddy came round with a couple of grams and I ended up taking it all night, but now I've heard of them I'm staying away from it for a while. The next day for me was very bad, like the "happy switch" had been turned off in my brain and I became very depressed for a few hours. Physically I had weird arm twitches, cold fingers and my lips are still very dry, I think because I was subconciously licking them all night. Perhaps I'd be better off trying Methylone, although I don't really try drugs very often and don't plan to again for a while.

Methylone is speedy like MDMA but has a much larger emphasis on those effects.  From what I have read, Mephedrone is speedy like Coke.  Given its super fiend nature and the probability that it is very toxic, I would think overdosing would be quite easy.  Keep in mind that I have never taken it myself.
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Post by: goldenratio on February 02, 2010, 02:27:38 am
i took 3 somas. im fucke dup. i got another entire iboottle for free and my other one was stil basically full. oh man, thiese are hitting me hard. sweet. i mean fuck.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 02, 2010, 02:37:56 am
beenhigh for like 2 weeks nowm
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Post by: goldenratio on February 02, 2010, 03:15:48 am
i smoked a bowl from a vape to my dome. purp. i dont eve know what to type.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 02, 2010, 03:20:00 am
bees. beses bes beeeeees
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Post by: goldenratio on February 02, 2010, 03:37:46 pm
i passed out like 30 minutes after making that post. at least i woke up early this morning
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Post by: GirlBones on February 02, 2010, 10:03:59 pm
fuck you guys 8====D~~~
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Post by: goldenratio on February 02, 2010, 11:48:26 pm
i dont know what to call this but its like im getting flashbacks. sitting here at my desk i almost feel like i've taken somas. i can smell the medical smell and my lower torso feels wobbly. this is weird. i should stop taking these things.
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Post by: Alec on February 03, 2010, 01:32:22 am
yeah dude

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Carisoprodol has a rapid, 30 minute onset of action, with the aforementioned effects lasting for approximately 2–6 hours. It is metabolized in the liver via the cytochrome P450 oxidase isozyme CYP2C19, excreted by the kidneys and has an approximate 8 hour half-life. A considerable proportion of carisoprodol is metabolized to meprobamate, which is a known drug of abuse and dependence; this could account for the abuse potential of carisoprodol.
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Post by: Farren on February 03, 2010, 03:01:02 am
Girlbones you dick fuck off or come back I'm sick of you popping in for a post and then leaving for months at a time to go belly dance or whatever the fuck you do.
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Post by: GirlBones on February 03, 2010, 08:45:41 pm
i can do what i want whenever i want to bvecause this is americ
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Post by: goldenratio on February 03, 2010, 10:49:25 pm
im sorry, i thought this wsas america. isn't this america? i thought thsi was america.
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Post by: bort on February 03, 2010, 11:40:34 pm
how do you guys like 2C-I???
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Post by: goldenratio on February 03, 2010, 11:46:26 pm
its great!!! it's like mild-mdma mixed with mescaline. or like maybe mescaline and lsd. very mellow and trippy. its the only drug i've gotten REAL trails from. ive taken it about 3 times, don't remember the dosages though. 20mg? is that too high? maybe 10mg?
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Post by: Farren on February 04, 2010, 01:41:17 am
I took that shit and like a day or two later some acid and ever since then every once in awhile I see tracers out of the corners of my eyes.
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Post by: bort on February 04, 2010, 04:03:17 am
and with these two excellent endorsements i shall proceed!
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on February 04, 2010, 04:47:16 am
hey does anyone take study drugs or drugs to make you smarter or no just the opposite?
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Post by: goldenratio on February 04, 2010, 04:48:37 am
bad idea to do that
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Post by: How We Became Fire on February 04, 2010, 05:43:42 am
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how do you guys like 2C-I???

2C-I is alright.  It can be overstimulating for some people though.  Higher doses have always produced a pretty uncomfortable body load for me but other factors might be at play.  Just make sure you are hydrated before the trip or you'll probably have a headache on the come down.  The dosage curve is pretty steep as well, how much were you thinking about taking?
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 04, 2010, 05:54:20 am
hey does anyone take study drugs or drugs to make you smarter or no just the opposite?

I hear ritalin's pretty good
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Post by: How We Became Fire on February 04, 2010, 07:58:01 am
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I hear ritalin's pretty good

2 hour high with a 5 hour crash?  Sure thing!  Studying sober is the only thing that has gotten me through school so far.  I want to be high all the time EXCEPT when I need to buckle down.

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its great!!! it's like mild-mdma mixed with mescaline. or like maybe mescaline and lsd. very mellow and trippy. its the only drug i've gotten REAL trails from. ive taken it about 3 times, don't remember the dosages though. 20mg? is that too high? maybe 10mg?

As to what I said earlier, I don't want to shine a bad light on 2C-I, just be aware that many people experience a lot of side effects and body load at higher doses.  20mg is pretty much the standard dose for a strong trip.  2C-I visual effects far surpass trails for me.  Nothing has given me more visual activity, not even my few forays with LSD at the 500ug+ doses.  I prefer the 25-30mg range, going much higher is a waste in my opinion.  If you end up enjoying yourself, take 2C-E for a spin.  It is much deeper but lasts a very long time.  I prefer it to LSD to be honest, but it has a dark-side that can catch you off guard.  Not very recreational in my experience.

I tried Ketamine with Mushrooms this weekend with a close friend.  It was the epitome of what I have ever been searching for in drugs.  I wish that I had the writing skills to portray what I felt during that trip.  Complete out of body experience. A connection with all the empathy and knowledge of the universe. A rebirth.  A fresh start.  The hug he gave me coming out of that K-hole was possibly the most genuine hug I have ever been given.  It almost makes me want to cry thinking about the connection that I felt with my friend that night.  The 2 hour car ride home the next day was done in complete silence.  Both of use knew and had shared what had happened, but neither of use could put it into words.  This is one of the few times drugs has given me something truly priceless.  I am a firm believer that drugs can help you reach a level of thought otherwise unobtainable, I just wish I didn't abuse them so much.  Be careful and have fun.  I hope you all find what you are looking for during your next trip.

~N



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Post by: Barack Obama on February 04, 2010, 07:58:52 am
and with these two excellent endorsements i shall proceed!
go easy on it, there's a point where it stops being very fun like most phenethylamines.
Its just a silly drug so don't expect much more. don't do more to trip harder once things get moving and dont snort it
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Post by: How We Became Fire on February 04, 2010, 08:07:33 am
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Its just a silly drug so don't expect much more. don't do more to trip harder once things get moving and dont snort it

I am curious as to your reasoning here, aside from the obvious that these are unsearched chemicals with unknown long term effects.  I have railed 2C-I on numerous occasion.  A painful line that lasts 5-10 minutes is far superior to stomach cramps and vomiting.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 04, 2010, 08:43:44 am
I never had the stomach issues but I think its because I adjust my diet when I trip because its something I become very conscious of when I trip("God, what the fuck have I beenputting in my body???") and I didnt know it was a normal thing at doses around 25mg. :welp: just personal experience I guess. I've also found that its really easy to overdo it when putting things up ones nose, and the pain could be unexpected to someone who hasn't done it before
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Post by: bort on February 04, 2010, 03:10:02 pm
2C-I is alright.  It can be overstimulating for some people though.  Higher doses have always produced a pretty uncomfortable body load for me but other factors might be at play.  Just make sure you are hydrated before the trip or you'll probably have a headache on the come down.  The dosage curve is pretty steep as well, how much were you thinking about taking?
well, i don't own any as of yet but it is going to be given to me cheaply by this girl as a "10 pack as long as i give her one."

the people there say 1 or 2 will do me, not sure what that equates to. not even sure what format it's in, sounds like a capsule. i think, for me, that means 2.

i'm interested in the visuals. i used to consume a fair bit of acid so we'll see how it compares. probably not happening for the next few days or week though, too much work.

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I've also found that its really easy to overdo it when putting things up ones nose, and the pain could be unexpected to someone who hasn't done it before
do you mean 2C-I specifically or snorting anything at all?
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Post by: goldenratio on February 04, 2010, 04:09:51 pm
honestly i'd stay away from railing any research chemicals. They will eat your sinuses away. The first time I did 2ci I railed ~3mg and took ~17mg (I remember now, I had like 5 20mg "packets") dissolved in water. It's estimated based on what it looked like. Anyways it burned pretty bad, and it was a pretty minor amount. I never had any gastrointestinal problems from it at all. but snorting anything is pretty bad for you, and with research chems it just seems like a bad idea. i have a penchant for insufflation so I couldn't help myself but it was pretty stupid.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 05, 2010, 02:48:49 am
do you mean 2C-I specifically or snorting anything at all?
phenethylamines in general(2C-* family). I guess if you've ever put molly up your nose you might have an idea of what to expect but it's an unpleasant experience regardless.

snorting psychedelic powders with rather delicate dosage ranges where there's a 1-5 mg difference between a fun time and an awful time is just not the best idea IMO. I know for me, once I start snorting shit a coke-mentality sets in and I'm much more liable to want to put more of whatever I'm doing up my nose regardless of whether or not I'm at a comfortable level. Knowing quite a bit of people who do drugs like these, I'm pretty certain that this isn't a unique phenomenon so if you decide to snort it, just be careful and don't overdo it.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 05, 2010, 03:00:27 am
i just drank 4bottels of cough syrup because im a real dumb o
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 05, 2010, 03:05:04 am
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 05, 2010, 03:16:39 am
lmfaooi cant even kolook at the screnrto click on that sso i just se the sill shot of thoser uglhy ass people loking at meeeeee
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 05, 2010, 03:19:28 am
DRINK MORE DRUGS
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 05, 2010, 03:19:43 am
I THINK YOU NEED MORE DO IT
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Post by: Hundley on February 05, 2010, 03:31:02 am
i just drank 4bottels of cough syrup because im a real dumb o
you are a greater man than i. never tried more than two. i've had a feeling anything past three wouldn't be very fun. there are better ways to communicate with aliens.
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Post by: ase on February 05, 2010, 03:35:09 am
he is probably also a heavier man than you
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Post by: Hundley on February 05, 2010, 10:24:19 am
he is probably also a heavier man than you
i sincerely doubt it, at least not heavier to the point where 4 bottles wouldn't ruin his ass for a night and most of the next day. i'm 6'3" 235, and two always did a pretty good job of interrupting my basic connections to the universe. if my math is right, he would need to weigh about 415 lbs for 4 bottles to be a recreational dose, and that may be a conservative estimation for all i know.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 05, 2010, 09:56:06 pm
you are a greater man than i. never tried more than two. i've had a feeling anything past three wouldn't be very fun. there are better ways to communicate with aliens.

yep i just blacked out, that sucked

he is probably also a heavier man than you

135 pounds
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Post by: Brad on February 05, 2010, 09:59:20 pm
How much do you guys weigh

i'm 170 and 6 ft
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Post by: Evangel on February 05, 2010, 10:02:01 pm
I've never taken more than a bottle and some change and that really put me over the edge.  I never did it that often, though.  Now the sickening physical effects of it completely deters me.  Really interesting trip though.  I'm pretty sure your accounts of the syrup partially inspired me to do it, Hundley.  Good times.

It's the weekend and I'm going to "take alcohol"
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Post by: Hundley on February 06, 2010, 02:12:51 am
yep i just blacked out, that sucked

135 pounds
jesus fuck you weigh 135 and you took 4 bottles?

you're kinda lucky all you did was black out, from what i hear when you take that much the voices of your brain become audible and they scream DO NOT DO THIS TO ME AGAIN over and over for 10 hours. dxm is pretty cute and adorable on the early doses but it can easily become a hellride when you take it to the end of the line.

also i'm sure all the dxm aliens that came to visit laughed at you when you were unconscious.  :sad:

anyway yeah, you probably don't need me to tell you this now, but don't bother doing that much again. dxm has weird stages of development, and it's not the sort of thing where you take more to get more fucked up. you kinda need to hit the individual stages, which is more a matter of careful dosing than just blitzing your body with as much syrup as you happened to have cash in your pocket at the time.

not to sound like a dick, but i'm guessing you didn't read the dxm faq (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml) if you took 4 bottles, because you'd have known by reading it that such a high dose for your body weight wouldn't have been a lot of fun. the thing is really the bible for any dxm user, and nobody should really bother with the stuff until at least skimming the important sections. take a look at this section (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_experience.shtml) the next time you want to plan out a dxm trip in advance. i was always a little skeptical about how accurate the dxm faq is, but really EVERYTHING written in there has been spot on. i've never experienced anything that wasn't covered, in some basic way, in the faq.

I'm pretty sure your accounts of the syrup partially inspired me to do it, Hundley.  Good times.
haha man i am officially a dxm pusher. UNOFFICIAL ROBITUSSIN SPOKESPERSON :sad:
i don't know how i should really feel about this, as i've gotten a bunch of people to try it out, but most people have had a generally interesting experience on it.


i'm always regretful that i never did any dxm DEEP DIVING, but i didn't really get PROFICIENT with dxm until the last two years or so and i'd probably need a spotter to go all the way. at least the first time. unfortunately my drug spotter buddy fell out of my life and dropped off the face of the earth, and i don't trust anybody else enough not to do stupid shit when i'm in orbit. a bummer.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 06, 2010, 03:17:49 am
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from what i hear when you take that much the voices of your brain become audible and they scream DO NOT DO THIS TO ME AGAIN over and over for 10 hours.
this happened to a friend and I when we got ahold of a bag of DXM powder and overdid it once. auditory hallucinations are pretty frightening, I can handle seeing stuff that's off the wall or not there, but there's something about voices just gives me the creeps.
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Post by: Farren on February 06, 2010, 03:28:32 am
Man I feel uncomfortable with other people when I trip.

As long as I don't take too much I usually just go my own way and have a fine time now that I've learned to ignore the wacked out shit. I know I'll never really reach the climatic point doing this but I hate people, specially when I'm trippin.

I know what you mean joe when I trip I hear all kinds of wierd shit and thats the only thing that throws me off but I learned to ignore it. Its only when I'm talking to or around someone else. I become really untrusting of them and hear them saying shit that they're not really saying. Its scary as fuck when you're tripping and they aren't too.
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Post by: meat.lover on February 06, 2010, 03:30:07 am
yeah man, i can't be around ppl who arent tripping when i am tripping. it is a weird feeling not knowing if what you're hearing or understanding is real or if it's just the acid or whatever.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on February 06, 2010, 03:42:35 am
I always wanted to do dxm but I'm afraid it will give me serotonin poisoning which blows
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 06, 2010, 03:44:24 am
ahaha actually i'm just a self-destructive moron. i've taken 3 bottles many times had horrible times but for osme reason i keep doing stupidly high doses
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Post by: crone_lover720 on February 06, 2010, 03:46:19 am
this is a horrible habit buttkiller seek help. for gw, your new home
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 06, 2010, 03:52:16 am
Buttkiller you should be more careful or the last butt you kill may just be.... your own
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Post by: Farren on February 06, 2010, 03:57:23 am
what really scares the shit out of me is when I'm with people that ARE tripping they think alot simpler. So while they're all "oooohhhh vibrating shapes and swirls LOOK AT THIS MOVIE/VIDGAME LOOK AT IT!"

I'm thinking on like ten different levels that they could never understand. I thought so hard I physically shut down and the people I was with though I was freaking out. I tried explaining it and still, different wavelength.

but after the first time I learned how to ignore it and kind of filter the massive thoughts thats only with shrooms though, I've never tried it with acid.

I need to find me some druggies that aren't one tracked and get wierded out at some odd thinking is what I need to do.
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Post by: bort on February 06, 2010, 04:33:20 am
what really scares the shit out of me is when I'm with people that ARE tripping they think alot simpler. So while they're all "oooohhhh vibrating shapes and swirls LOOK AT THIS MOVIE/VIDGAME LOOK AT IT!"

I'm thinking on like ten different levels that they could never understand. I thought so hard I physically shut down and the people I was with though I was freaking out. I tried explaining it and still, different wavelength.

but after the first time I learned how to ignore it and kind of filter the massive thoughts thats only with shrooms though, I've never tried it with acid.

I need to find me some druggies that aren't one tracked and get wierded out at some odd thinking is what I need to do.
really?

yeah, maybe you'd have more fun with different people, but i think very little besides actually destructive behavior should scare you, given that you've got people eating POWERFUL PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS and all. if other people's mindsets bother you that much you might have the problem, just a thought.
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Post by: jamie on February 06, 2010, 04:40:38 am
I always wanted to do dxm but I'm afraid it will give me serotonin poisoning which blows

i've got no idea what serotonin poisoning is but i've done DXM twice and the second time was VERY FREAKY. i didn't get high, just very naseous, and in the ensuing weeks various parts of my body including my balls and the back of my head would go numb or get very warm out of nowhere, my entire perception was a little on the brain-fried side and apparently, according to my parents, when i spoke sometimes i didn't make any sense even though i thought i was saying things clearly. sleeping was totally impossible for weeks because every time i lay down and closed my eyes i got a wild head rush and i would have to keep shaking my limbs because if i didn't it would feel like they weren't there. i remember very vividly, one morning weeks after taking it, i woke up and seriously i could see but everything was green. like night vision goggles. and there was an extremely loud ringing in my ear. things faded away back to normal over the course of a few minutes.

i still get very mild things that happen every now and then but all of this has almost entirely stopped. i am pretty sure it was the bad cough syrup that caused this!


the first time i done it though it was not bad

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Post by: Buttkiller on February 06, 2010, 04:51:28 am
um that doesnt sound like cough syrup
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Post by: jamie on February 06, 2010, 04:57:00 am
well it was, it was that buckley's crap which i bought before knowing it was unbearable and then left 'USA' so i couldn't get anymore robitussin so i just said WELL WHAT THE HECK and tried to get that digusting crap down.

i was pretty sure it only had dxm as the active ingredient and i saw it on various sites as being safe but it messed me up!
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 06, 2010, 05:16:56 am
anyone have theat picture from sa with the goblet full of cough syrup and like 3 empty bottles next to it
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Post by: Hundley on February 06, 2010, 05:22:55 am
i'm reasonably certain it wasn't dxm doing that to you, unless you mistakenly took cough medicine that had some other active ingredient in it. the biological half-life of dxm isn't long enough to give you lasting problems like that for weeks after only doing around 300 mg. it was more likely something you had subsequently put into your system.
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Post by: jamie on February 06, 2010, 05:30:39 am
it all started happening the night i took that bottle of buckley's. i don't believe it was the dxm itself because i took it once before that with no problems at all and it was more or less the same amount. it is so likely it was at least related, though, because nothing like that has ever happened to me before or since and it wasn't a mild episode i can brush off as just being crap that happens to your body.

i don't know if it was an interaction with something else i might have done, but people saying 'wow....doesn't sound like dxm...' isn't really going to convince me it wasn't involved.
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Post by: Evangel on February 06, 2010, 05:36:52 am
Do you have anxiety?  I have a friend who has anxiety issues and he's had problems after binging DXM as well as MDMA.  He hasn't done either for a long time, but he swears that they've had a permanent effect on his mind/body.  I think it's made him more aware of his genetic blood pressure and anxiety, but not necessarily exacerbated it.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on February 06, 2010, 05:47:12 am
woah that's nuts. I dunno if that serotonin poisoning/toxicity/syndrome tho, which is only supposed to happen if you're taking allergy medicine like allegra, or ssri antidepressants. but the head rush sounds similar and so does the strange vision problems. when I had it my head felt like hell and my whole body felt inexplicably uncomfortable.

gulp!! I have anxiety issues, inherited from my dad. guess I won't be trying dxm anytime soon
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Post by: jamie on February 06, 2010, 06:03:21 am
i don't have anxiety issues, so i don't think it's anything to do with that. also, i took mdma once and it was great!!!

every time i talk about this i feel crazy, but something happened to me and it is pretty much the only explanation i have. i went to the doctor about it (when my testicles went numb!!!) but the guy seriously didn't know what DXM was and had to look it up so that was useless. he said he didn't think it was the DXM, too, but he didn't have any other suggestions, either. i've got other stuff i could say about weird crap that happened to me after i took drugs but i just sound nuts so i'll shut up. i'm not trying to be a scare story or whatever, i think my body is just a bit messed up in regards to all this stuff.
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Post by: Hundley on February 06, 2010, 06:14:11 am
i hate to be a dick, but are you positive it wasn't alcohol-related? i've done both dxm and alcohol extensively and i've noticed FAR more physical problems from the alcohol than i ever did with the dxm(in both myself and in others). people overlook the immediate physical dangers of alcohol because it's not considered a "drug" but there are fucking boatloads of shitty side-effects that come from regular alcohol consumption. these experiences don't appear to be that inconsistent with that of habitual alcohol consumption, really.
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Post by: bort on February 06, 2010, 06:19:15 am
these experiences don't appear to be that inconsistent with that of habitual alcohol consumption, really.
alcohol cessation too
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 06, 2010, 11:27:45 am
really?

yeah, maybe you'd have more fun with different people, but i think very little besides actually destructive behavior should scare you, given that you've got people eating POWERFUL PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS and all. if other people's mindsets bother you that much you might have the problem, just a thought.
This is pretty much was the case for me and why I don't really handle hallucinogens very well anymore. there's too much stress in my life and psychedelics kinda bring out a weird social anxiety that prevents me from having much fun. I get where coxswain is coming from though, when you're miles deep in your own head going over personal shit or things you feel are important to focus on, someone enamored with the wall patterns can be a little irritating. In a situation like that you should probably reevaluate why you're taking drugs like that to begin with and take a vacation from taking them for a while if the experience is not very enjoyable.
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Post by: Farren on February 06, 2010, 06:23:27 pm
Yeah thats pretty much what I did.

So now I either take a low dosage and go my own way after I know I'll be good and can control it or at least deal with it. Or just try not to think too deeply if I'm around others that won't understand it.
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Post by: Mateui on February 07, 2010, 01:04:01 am
Dextromethorphan is a chemical precursor to Serotonin, so it's not unlikely that it can cause CNS issues like anxiety especially if you abuse it. I'd be careful of what other chemicals you are ingesting if you are drinking bottles of DM, especially since a lot of DM formulations have acetaminophen in them which can easily lead to liver toxicity. Throw alcohol into the mix and you're multiplying your risk greatly.
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Post by: goldenratio on February 07, 2010, 10:03:28 pm
the last time i took a lot of mdma i started hearing voices. There were 3 of us and we had like 6-8 pills each. we kept taking 1/2 pills every half hour or so. Towards the end I kept hearing whispering. They weren't necessarily saying anything, or it was shit like "i think so..." "what did he say..." "i heard that..." shit like that. very creepy.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 07, 2010, 11:38:12 pm
im fucking drunk fuck!!!!!!
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Post by: meat.lover on February 08, 2010, 03:29:51 am
mr too man. me too
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 08, 2010, 03:38:08 am
well not0anymore im high now
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 08, 2010, 03:38:40 am
my life is spiralling out of control!!!!!!! Haha. Just kidding, i fucking hate mysefl
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Post by: meat.lover on February 08, 2010, 06:47:43 am
im not drunk anymore :(
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Post by: Madolah on February 08, 2010, 07:02:27 pm
Did LSD ( "Red Southparks" ) Saturday and watched a trip.  Cloudly with a chance of Meatballs is a pretty decent movie but watching it on acid is Marvelous! its so entertaining!
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Post by: Brad on February 09, 2010, 07:12:32 am
Did LSD ( "Red Southparks" ) Saturday and watched a trip.  Cloudly with a chance of Meatballs is a pretty decent movie but watching it on acid is Marvelous! its so entertaining!


I once watched Mars Attacks on mushrooms with a friend.. highly recommended.
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Post by: scept1c on February 09, 2010, 01:21:41 pm
I recommend to pay attention to health ;)
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 09, 2010, 01:37:23 pm
Its good advice
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Post by: Beasley on February 09, 2010, 04:45:04 pm
i just found out my uncle took too much acid in the 70s and now is schizophrenic. i always knew about his, uh, "illness", hes been institutionalized for a long time now. but i just found out my ma thinks the acid did it

now im kind of afraid of acid

sucks


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Post by: Farren on February 09, 2010, 05:30:49 pm
This guy that lives with us is schozophrenic. My mom and dad said it happened because of drug abuse but I don't know if acid did it or not. But he's always been pretty slow and though substance abuse might of made it worse, I dunno really.

Also theres this really spacy guy that I went to sea school with, he was a heavy set guy and he seemed pretty slow but not retarded or anything. When I asked him about it he said that it was because he took too much acid when he was in highschool.

I believe that you can get permanent mental damage from stuff like that but only if you don't have a strong enough mindset to handle it. Kind of like if you're a weaker person mentally and you see something really traumatic it can permanently damage your mindstate.
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Post by: meat.lover on February 09, 2010, 05:56:49 pm
i just found out my uncle took too much acid in the 70s and now is schizophrenic. i always knew about his, uh, "illness", hes been institutionalized for a long time now. but i just found out my ma thinks the acid did it

now im kind of afraid of acid

sucks




i don't think there's any evidence to support acid causing stuff like that, but psychedelics in general have been known to exacerbate mental illnesses
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Post by: bort on February 09, 2010, 06:00:15 pm
i don't think there's any evidence to support acid causing stuff like that, but psychedelics in general have been known to exacerbate mental illnesses
is it even possible to gather evidence for that?

nobody's gonna feed acid to humans in a study and i ----

oh shit in the process of googling apparently scientists genetically engineered a schizophrenic mouse haha
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 09, 2010, 11:36:53 pm
A bad trip is known to be a "triggering" event for people who have latent schizophrenia, as are any number of traumatic events. It's thought to have a genetic factor to it because schizophrenia tends to run in families so if your uncle is a blood-relative Beasley I would seriously be careful. I'm not trying to scare you or anything but it happened to someone I knew who also had an uncle with it, there was some other drug abuse going on in his case but acid is ultimately what did it.
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Post by: goldenratio on February 09, 2010, 11:47:38 pm
The important thing to remember is that LSD doesn't GIVE you schizophrenia, it just brings it out of you. It would come out eventually anyway, the LSD just helped it along. But remember LSD doesn't GIVE YOU schizophrenia at all.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 09, 2010, 11:52:38 pm
The important thing to remember is that LSD doesn't GIVE you schizophrenia, it just brings it out of you. It would come out eventually anyway, the LSD just helped it along. But remember LSD doesn't GIVE YOU schizophrenia at all.
maybe. i mean i don't think you could make a definitive statement like this. who knows, there may be tons of cases of folks with latent schizophrenia who avoided LSD and psychological trauma and lived a completely normal sober life.  :welp:

not trying to be a wet blanket or anything but LSD is an extremely powerful psychedelic active in doses in the microgram range that can seriously fuck with someone psychologically. It's not like the concept of an "acid casualty" is unheard of or anything.

have fun just be careful
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 09, 2010, 11:52:59 pm
oh ok that helps
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Post by: Brad on February 10, 2010, 12:28:25 am
LSD I've not tried yet, after hearing that though it kind of scares me. I get wild paranoia from weed.. what the fuck would acid do??
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 10, 2010, 01:05:43 am
it'll make you trip hard if you take enough of good stuff
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Post by: bort on February 10, 2010, 01:09:14 am
yes, LSD RULES and it's better than all the other bullshit i've eaten
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Post by: fatty on February 10, 2010, 12:46:21 pm
are there any drugs that can cause amnesia
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Post by: bort on February 10, 2010, 12:50:32 pm
drink till you black out.
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Post by: Alec on February 10, 2010, 12:57:19 pm
two or three bars'll probably do ya.
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Post by: bort on February 10, 2010, 01:00:25 pm
huff some gasoline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: unusualgamer on February 10, 2010, 06:57:19 pm
do jenkem

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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 10, 2010, 07:12:31 pm
Can LSD be laced with anything? I'm looking to get some soon but I don't want to get it from someone sketchy and fuck myself up. One of my girl friends got mdma from a new dealer last week and blacked out in a bar
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 10, 2010, 07:15:51 pm
DOB/DOM/something that is terrible and will fuck you up for like 24 hours

just don't buy from Some Fucking Guy you just met and you'll likely get regular acid
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Post by: Alec on February 10, 2010, 07:24:46 pm
If it's on blotter or microdots it can only be lsd or DOB/DOM pretty much as anything else wouldn't be active at those levels.
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Post by: fatty on February 10, 2010, 11:39:11 pm
drink till you black out.
when I drink a lot I just get really really happy and calm and after a while my tum-tum hurts because it can't handle any more fluids being poured into it
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Post by: Farren on February 11, 2010, 02:56:47 am
two or three bars'll probably do ya.

oh god I fucking hate dealing with people heavy on this shit
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Post by: Alec on February 11, 2010, 12:04:22 pm
Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with you there.
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Post by: meat.lover on February 11, 2010, 06:12:47 pm
tripped on acid last night still kinda tripping now. only took 1 tab. wasnt really too intense but itwas nice for listening to music. my friend took acid for the first time and started crying b/c he said he was so happy. he said he was talking to someone in his head but from just 1 tab? really?
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 01:59:34 am
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 02:00:28 am
that's exactly how i talked when i was that age
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 02:33:18 am
i got some kava pills (probably shouldve gone with the powder or something whatever) and took like 8 of them about 20 mintues ago. don't feel anything. not like i'm expecting to GET HIGH or anything besides mild relaxation but im tired of having to smoke weed in order to sleep every night
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 03:11:42 am
ok i think i feel it. it feels nice. very calm, a little euphoric maybe
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 03:32:36 am
you know what this feels pretty fuckin good. like a little xanax but i don't feel sleepy
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 12, 2010, 03:48:17 am
don't want to turn this into the Cigarette Discussion Topic but has anyone ordered cigs online from other countries? am i going to have to pay duty/extra taxes? (in the airport you don't if it's 200 or less, i don't know if it applies still)
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 04:04:45 am
I've never ordered from other countries, but if you live in a big enough city there should be more than one tobacco specialty store that deals in stuff like that
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 12, 2010, 04:18:29 am
idk they're pretty obscure - it was hard enough finding it online. i scrounged the web and only found 1 website.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 04:29:17 am
what are they called??? i wanna see if i can find them here
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 12, 2010, 04:40:57 am
seven stars
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 04:49:32 am
seven stars
I've seen those before!
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 12, 2010, 04:55:11 am
what seriously? guess I'll check out a specialty store tomorrow..
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 05:06:26 am
if you live in a city with a high concentration of asian immigrants, there's definitely bound to be a smoke shop that has a bunch of imported cigarettes from Japan and Korea. I've seen the white pack of seven stars before at a friend's place here in seattle so I'm sure you can find them in Toronto
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 12, 2010, 05:26:17 am
there's like no japanese population here, and i've never seen any asian cigarettes here but I guess I've only really looked in those korean convenience stores all over the place. My friend recommended me a shop, gonna check it out tomorrow
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 09:07:10 pm
just snorted 40mg of focalin and i have to say this stuff is way better than regular methylphenidate and the drip actually tastes delicious
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 12, 2010, 09:10:44 pm
Guys could we keep the drug talk to a minimum please. Kids visit this forum.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 09:17:42 pm
theres something incredibly cool about having bloodshot eyes with darkass bags around them, looking around @ things and nonthings thinking a lot andd making slight facialexpressions for no fucking reason with a bloody nose and chewing gum with yer mouth wide open making loud smacking noises
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 12, 2010, 09:26:00 pm
no thats not cool at all
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 09:28:02 pm
after watching requiem dfor a dream i was like "that. that's what i want to be."
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Post by: Madolah on February 12, 2010, 09:28:03 pm
Sarry, wrong thread.


High as a kite ...... 
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 12, 2010, 09:29:58 pm
okay i am so fucking confused rightnow
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Post by: Madolah on February 12, 2010, 09:56:23 pm
hahahaha  Wrong topic baked as sin.
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Post by: Farren on February 13, 2010, 12:50:12 am
the drug discussion topic

better known as "watch buttkiller slowly kill himself"
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 13, 2010, 03:28:45 am
uh yeah

buttkiller stop being du,mb
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Post by: cocaine on February 13, 2010, 04:17:11 am
i read this entire thread while slamming my cock with a framing hammer
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Post by: cocaine on February 13, 2010, 04:17:28 am
the drug discussion topic

better known as "watch buttkiller slowly kill himself"
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Post by: cocaine on February 13, 2010, 04:18:06 am
i dont do drugs drugs are for losers
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Post by: Madolah on February 13, 2010, 08:12:25 pm
Well then Stay outta Drug Discussion? Simple.


In other news.   Got polluted last night!  Smoked about 12-14 Joints and 2 BIG OL CANNONS throughout the whole day and then a Pal popped by, with some legit Kush.  Knocked on our asses? Yeah.


Played COD:WAW baked as sin in 3player multiplayer from  11:30PM-5:12AM   Hahaha.
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Post by: fatty on February 13, 2010, 09:00:55 pm
i dont do drugs
drugs are for losers
does not compute because you are a loser(high on wine yay)
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 13, 2010, 09:08:25 pm
snorted focalin all last night, mmy nose wouldn't stop bleeding, im looking at these words and lauhging whyt ehf cuk would i do this what is wrong with me why am i posting this
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 13, 2010, 09:08:50 pm
im so sorry for ruining your drug threqd (really)
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Post by: fatty on February 13, 2010, 09:11:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXlzci1rKNM
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Post by: dada on February 13, 2010, 10:31:39 pm
i dont do drugs drugs are for losers
nice one, wally...

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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 01:17:34 am
thats my hero
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 01:18:24 am
just snorted 40mg of focalin and i have to say this stuff is way better than regular methylphenidate and the drip actually tastes delicious
wanna snort something fun? t ry 100mg of morphine sulfate you will be immobilized
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 14, 2010, 01:50:40 am
im kind of a stimulant person
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 01:51:56 am
yea i love my addies and coke but i love to chill out every now and then to
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 14, 2010, 01:57:38 am
yeah i get that but 10mg of MOTHERFUCKING IMMOBILIZING SHIT does not sound very fun or chill to me
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 02:04:34 am
100mg


and its great, its like heroin for people like me that would never stick a needle in their arm
but you get the mad itches worse then hydros
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 02:05:23 am
not 100mg all at once obv but total of 100mg spread out within 5 hours

time released to, but i dont think that matters when you snort it
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 14, 2010, 02:06:39 am
"if it's a drug i'll do it" - buttkiller, 2009, shortly before doing every drug
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 02:08:48 am
ive tried everything but heroin at least once
im not for sticking needles in my arm
but ive done oxys morphine codiene pretty much ever other opiate out there

im more of a psychedelics kind of guy myself
shrooms and weed for me
i would do acid if i could get a hold of it only done it a few times
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Post by: cocaine on February 14, 2010, 02:10:20 am
and yes i have smoked crack once before, worst drug ever its like a 5 minute high with a raging boner then 5 hours of wanting to kill yourself its like taking cocaine one of the best drugs in the world and turning it into the worse its an abomination

and ive tried ice before, was ok but i dont like the come down thats why i do addies, love being tweaked plus the only come down on addies for me is i sleep for like 2 days straight
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Post by: bort on February 14, 2010, 07:33:19 am
and yes i have smoked crack once before, worst drug ever its like a 5 minute high with a raging boner then 5 hours of wanting to kill yourself its like taking cocaine one of the best drugs in the world and turning it into the worse its an abomination

and ive tried ice before, was ok but i dont like the come down thats why i do addies, love being tweaked plus the only come down on addies for me is i sleep for like 2 days straight
you get turned on by crack maybe youre meant to be a crackwhore
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Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on February 14, 2010, 08:51:16 am
i just tripped and i went on so many adventures. i got the highest of fives and i made cops angry and i drank a lot of sugar cola and smoked weed and listen to metal. this all sounds very mundane!
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 14, 2010, 09:23:56 pm
You don't need to inject heroin to try it. I've smoked and snorted it before and its a pretty awesome drug and I can see why people become junkies
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on February 14, 2010, 11:10:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXlzci1rKNM

i don't believe this guy is homeless, he's too clean and that looks like a kangol hat
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Post by: fatty on February 15, 2010, 05:35:09 am
he is the best
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 15, 2010, 07:31:13 am
how do you stealth irl
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Post by: fatty on February 15, 2010, 08:12:01 am
coat your skin with phosphoric acid
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 15, 2010, 08:20:30 am
i am now invisible
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on February 15, 2010, 11:20:17 am
I've never done drugs... but this with a lot of other things I say, I don't know what I'm missing so how can I be missing it very much? I don't know why exactly I don't drink or do drugs or anything... Islam forbids anything that can alter your state of mind and anything that can affect judgement. I'm not particularly religious, but I do have a lot of respect for my parents, and I think the reason I don't go near any of this stuff is out of respect for them, and a bit of religion. If they say not to, and are adamant about it, I'll follow it happily.

I however don't have anything against drugs. I'm all about freedom of self, and fairly liberal with most things. People can do what they want, as long as it doesn't adversely affect anyone else.

Food for thought though, a lot of these drugs I hear essentially play around with your neurotransmitter receptors in the brain, making them overly sensitive or less sensitive over time... results in either hallucinations/psychotic behavior, or needing more and more of a "hit" before things get fried.

My mom's a psychiatrist and she tells me these costs every now and then, it's pretty crazy.
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Post by: Alec on February 15, 2010, 12:13:09 pm
Do you drink soda? eat chocolate? almost everything is a drug I'm just gonna lay that on you right now. I'm not trying to convince you to do drugs I'm just saying a lot of the things you eat regularly alter your state of mind.
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Post by: XxNemesis29xX on February 15, 2010, 12:52:39 pm
Not state of mind, I guess JUDGEMENT is the better word.
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Post by: meat.lover on February 15, 2010, 01:37:32 pm
shoving coke up your nose makes a lot more sense than islam :sly:
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Post by: Farren on February 15, 2010, 05:55:33 pm
Quote
Not state of mind, I guess JUDGEMENT is the better word.


No it doesn't

now if you're constantly railing lines and just get used to doing it all the time and don't think about where you are or what you're doing when you decide to rail the next one then I guess something like that could make sense but the substance itself doesn't ruin your judgement, its your lack of control and sense of responsibility in the first place that does it in my opinion.
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Post by: dragonx on February 15, 2010, 06:01:24 pm
yes and in your opinion doing xanax driving and getting caught by cops makes them the bad guy


 :fogetshrug:
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Post by: Alec on February 15, 2010, 06:14:00 pm
dragonx fuckin let that go
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Post by: dragonx on February 15, 2010, 06:15:20 pm
:(

ive just gotten so used to doing this....its become a curse
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 16, 2010, 01:00:46 am
I've never done drugs... but this with a lot of other things I say, I don't know what I'm missing so how can I be missing it very much? I don't know why exactly I don't drink or do drugs or anything... Islam forbids anything that can alter your state of mind and anything that can affect judgement. I'm not particularly religious, but I do have a lot of respect for my parents, and I think the reason I don't go near any of this stuff is out of respect for them, and a bit of religion. If they say not to, and are adamant about it, I'll follow it happily.

I however don't have anything against drugs. I'm all about freedom of self, and fairly liberal with most things. People can do what they want, as long as it doesn't adversely affect anyone else.

Food for thought though, a lot of these drugs I hear essentially play around with your neurotransmitter receptors in the brain, making them overly sensitive or less sensitive over time... results in either hallucinations/psychotic behavior, or needing more and more of a "hit" before things get fried.

My mom's a psychiatrist and she tells me these costs every now and then, it's pretty crazy.
lol i think you should do LSD.

just once, take a couple hits and just ride it out and you'll have a pretty good idea what drugs are all about.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on February 16, 2010, 01:14:22 am
shoving coke up your nose makes a lot more sense than islam :sly:

Islam is against drugs so if you ever decide to leave islam you'll still have all your brain cells. Now if you're an useless pothead that won't happen.
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Post by: meat.lover on February 16, 2010, 02:00:52 am
Islam is against drugs so if you ever decide to leave islam you'll still have all your brain cells. Now if you're an useless pothead that won't happen.

 :welp:

you only live once
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Post by: Farren on February 16, 2010, 02:41:43 am
:(

ive just gotten so used to doing this....its become a curse

I'm not gonna go through this with you again. You're a fucking ignorant child and you keep bringing this up like I don't know what is right and wrong and whether or not I am high off of something when I take shit on a constant basis and do not drive when it effects me. Its not even like what you're saying is even pissing me off its just plain untrue and really immature, and I'm sick of seeing you pop in with the same retarded comment whenever you feel it remotely applies (it doesn't). If they had "caught me driving on xanax" I would have gone to jail you fucking moron.
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Post by: Farren on February 16, 2010, 02:46:24 am
wait scratch that

why am I even explaining myself again

you know what I love driving and drinking and smoking and shooting up heroin I hope I don't hit a church bus full of little kids one day, oh wait I'm a stupid drug addict and I don't care

well atleast I don't go to a gw meet and play video games and larp the whole fucking time

and atleast I don't play wow either

You know what I think I can safely say that despite this I'm still way better than you, you kinky haired little bitch
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Post by: Vellfire on February 16, 2010, 02:52:25 am
ahahahaha
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 16, 2010, 02:52:55 am
If you have nothing to add but ad hominem then I guess dragonX wins this joust -.-
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Post by: meat.lover on February 16, 2010, 02:55:09 am
daaaaaaaaang topic just got real
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Post by: Farren on February 16, 2010, 02:59:35 am
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 16, 2010, 03:00:06 am
i bet you were on xanax when you were typing that .... heh :fogetcool:
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Post by: im_so_tired on February 16, 2010, 03:12:33 am
judgement could be impeded by that video game you have minimized right now...

edit: i actually agree that its important to keep your senses about you. i don't drink because i don't like to have such muddy state of mind.
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Post by: dragonx on February 16, 2010, 03:26:16 am
wait scratch that

why am I even explaining myself again

you know what I love driving and drinking and smoking and shooting up heroin I hope I don't hit a church bus full of little kids one day, oh wait I'm a stupid drug addict and I don't care

well atleast I don't go to a gw meet and play video games and larp the whole fucking time

and atleast I don't play wow either

You know what I think I can safely say that despite this I'm still way better than you, you kinky haired little bitch

:welp:
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Post by: Brown on February 16, 2010, 03:30:08 am
:welp:

 :fogetshrug:​..... :welp:
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 16, 2010, 03:43:54 am
Everyone in this topic needs to take a chill pill
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Post by: dragonx on February 16, 2010, 07:04:28 am
i get it mark i get it!!!!!!!
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Post by: meat.lover on February 16, 2010, 07:11:35 am
can't we all just chill? ~ kaworu
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Post by: Alec on February 16, 2010, 01:27:08 pm
whoa

















whoa



*sugarcubes*
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Post by: fatty on February 16, 2010, 01:38:19 pm
LSD. Where my trips at.
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Post by: goldenratio on February 16, 2010, 04:48:32 pm
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on February 17, 2010, 12:53:26 am
:(

ive just gotten so used to doing this....its become a curse

now you need more and more to get the same 'hit' and it's affected your judgement.
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Post by: Schalt on February 18, 2010, 04:44:28 am
hello fellow droogies

i spent the last month in a psychiatric ward

i no longer advocate mixing adderal and weed to all of my good friends here

just wanted to let you know

buttkiller, you still alive bro?
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 18, 2010, 07:56:13 am
Did you have some kind of amphetamine psychosis that was accentuated by the weed or something? I know a few people who kicked the nugs because stimulant abuse ruined it for them.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on February 18, 2010, 08:01:56 am
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Did you have some kind of amphetamine psychosis that was accentuated by the weed or something? I know a few people who kicked the nugs because stimulant abuse ruined it for them.

This is exactly what caused me to quit smoking weed.  It was probably the only good thing that came out of being addicted to prescription amphetamines.  I've since quit the amps as well, thank god for that.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 18, 2010, 08:23:28 am
Yeah me too, but it was coke and ephedra back when that stuff was legal. Never got into amphetamines much other than taking a roommate's addies for studying all night.

I'll smoke a little bit occasionally but I can't enjoy getting really stoned like I used to
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Post by: Farren on February 18, 2010, 05:57:49 pm
wait, why would you hate smoking weed if its the adderal thats causing the psychosis? I mean it is prominently the adderal isn't it or does it cause you to react like that every time you smoke weed?

Alot of my friends are into adderal and smoking like that and I'm just glad I stuck to muscle relaxants instead because other than an opiate addiction thing from over abuse I don't think I've got to worry about freaking out or anything like that.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on February 18, 2010, 07:26:47 pm
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wait, why would you hate smoking weed if its the adderal thats causing the psychosis? I mean it is prominently the adderal isn't it or does it cause you to react like that every time you smoke weed?

Alot of my friends are into adderal and smoking like that and I'm just glad I stuck to muscle relaxants instead because other than an opiate addiction thing from over abuse I don't think I've got to worry about freaking out or anything like that.

After taking stimulants for a long time it just changes things for you.  I wouldn't really call it psychosis either, as I have only flirted with that ONCE out of the year or so I was playing pacman with adderal.  I had a serious problem but I knew when I needed to sleep/eat.  It just makes enjoying weed near impossible and adds a higher occurrence of paranoia months, even years after you have quit the stimulants.
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Post by: Buttkiller on February 18, 2010, 07:31:18 pm
i shoudl be worrying about all this shit but i'm dead so idc really
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Post by: Farren on February 19, 2010, 02:54:54 am
you're not dead yet you're just going to be if you don't smarten up
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Post by: Schalt on February 19, 2010, 04:56:29 am
It's like my mind went into overdrive with the amphetamines. I was not sleeping for days at a time. I attribute much of my psychosis to simple sleep deprivation. Thoughts that you wouldn't believe...

Mixing weed into the equation amplified my psychotic thoughts into strange states indeed. I smoked what little bit I had left last night because...well because I never learn I guess.

I was immediately brought back to the same thought patterns. It felt like my skull is too small for my ambitious thoughts. I wrote this stupid poem:

human being

tiny insignificant speck of dust within the universe

all of us billions

floating here within space

why are we here?

given so short a time

taken randomly

we could all end up dead

there are worse things

the lost existence of eternity's path

without meaning

I am thrust into this very nihilistic existentialist eerily realistic yet idealistic thought process from which there is no escape. It is incredibly intense. It's like the mellowness of weed has been taken away. In addition, it has become very psychedelic except that my mind does not feel fully equipped to handle the experience. I saw some pretty weird shit last night, thank god it only lasted for an hour. Hopefully the whole thing is temporary and I will one day be able to enjoy the benefits of weed again.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 19, 2010, 04:58:33 am
yeah maybe you need a break....
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Post by: Schalt on February 19, 2010, 05:04:26 am
By some strange twist of fate, I met a girl in the hospital I was in.

We have been together for almost a month and she is the only thing keeping me from delving back into psychedelics, which I have avoided for a couple years now ever since....that time.

I think I may also have had (still have) an underlying mental condition that caused the psychosis to spiral out of control.

But what ya gonna do?
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Post by: crone_lover720 on February 19, 2010, 05:12:38 am
it's good that you're better now schalt. does anyone know if kaworu is still alive? oh good he's listening to stuff on last.fm. I'm going to add him as a friend so I don't have to fear he killed himself with drugs whenever he stops posting.
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Post by: bort on February 19, 2010, 05:17:19 am
what's he listening to? gong? or is it back to iron maiden....?
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Post by: crone_lover720 on February 19, 2010, 05:26:13 am
looks like he prefers psychedelic stuff, space rock and zappa these days
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Post by: im_so_tired on February 19, 2010, 06:00:20 am
where did he go?
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 19, 2010, 08:15:20 am
By some strange twist of fate, I met a girl in the hospital I was in.

We have been together for almost a month and she is the only thing keeping me from delving back into psychedelics, which I have avoided for a couple years now ever since....that time.

I think I may also have had (still have) an underlying mental condition that caused the psychosis to spiral out of control.

But what ya gonna do?
I don't know if I'd call it a mental condition which medicalizes it, its more like a state of mind that should be explored a bit with lifestyle changes and psychoanalysis with an understanding professional. Its good to hear that you've got something in your life that's keeping you from jumping back into psychedelics after your ordeal because i don't think that's a good idea.
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Post by: Farren on February 19, 2010, 05:43:31 pm
I think I actually know someone going through this because the dude smokes alot of weed and was snorting adderal when I was home last month and he said that he was an insomniac and hadn't slept in days. I thought that was kind of odd that he was saying that while he was snorting the adderal. I guess when I see his dumbass again I'll tell him thats probably the source of some of his problems because he seemed kind of "off" when I was talking to him but I don't know if that'll get him to stop.
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Post by: Schalt on February 20, 2010, 12:59:45 am
Kind of off. That is a good description. I feel like I've been slowly but steadily moving away from my desired state of mind for a while now. Coincidentally, (if you believe in coincidence) I have also drifted away from psychedelics....dunno what that means but sure enough I will one day be doing them again.

For now though yes you are right I should be focusing on simplicity and more therapeutic sorts of things to help me fully recover from this. No sense getting in too deep before I have even caught my breath. I am seeing a therapist and it's good so far. I have always meditated and stuff and recently I got this book called "The Secret of the Golden Flower." It seems to be clearing up some things that have been on my mind for quite some time now, such as the nature of the psychedelic experience itself. From what I have read, it seems like ancient chinese people thought it was bad to see crazy visuals through meditation. It is referred to as the demon world or ensnaring world. Then it goes on to say that becoming enveloped in the pure light of infinite goodness is the goal or endpoint of meditation.

I have experienced both of these worlds and I am intrigued by each of them. I am not sure which world I belong to and each one seems to offer its own unique viewpoint and experiences. It's almost like I have a choice to have faith in infinite wisdom or god or something or I can do mushrooms and just go my own path, cut off from the pure white light and lost within the demonic world of creative chaos.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on February 21, 2010, 10:59:15 am
I only used LSD once and don't remember much because was drunk, but it's amazing. I want to try other psuchedelics altought I saw on TV a young guy died after taking some kind of ayahuasca.

I love cannabis, LSD, coca and alkohol.
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Post by: Alec on February 21, 2010, 01:46:45 pm
Ayahuasca is a lot of ingredients so I imagine it's not hard to fuck it up. One of the major ingredients is an MAOI so he might have had complications with something else he was on.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on February 21, 2010, 01:51:50 pm
His family is member of a religious sect called Santo Daime wich bases a lot of its teachings and ceremonies on some kind of ayahuasca tea. He was being introduced to it and died.
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Post by: Barack Obama on February 21, 2010, 10:59:55 pm
Ayahuasca is a lot of ingredients so I imagine it's not hard to fuck it up. One of the major ingredients is an MAOI so he might have had complications with something else he was on.
if it's the straight to business kind of ayahuasca then it's just two ingredients: one source of DMT(typically a bark) and one MAOI

there's so many varieties of that shit though, you'd be better off just packing some DMT fumarate into a capsule and swallowing it with an MAOI instead of playing witchdoctor with some nasty shit that'll make you puke.
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Post by: Marmot on March 05, 2010, 09:12:21 am
ive done a few times mushrooms. i love mushrooms. its such a wild thing. i think the most terrifying event of my life happened in a binge of shrooms
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Post by: goldenratio on March 05, 2010, 06:15:52 pm
im makin some mescaline tea right now ;) this weekend might be fun :)
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Post by: Master Tea on March 05, 2010, 08:58:29 pm
lets see.... i've only smoked roach a couple times but kept away due to job searching and shit. got a bro in cal who gets it for free all the off his chum who gets it for medicinal purposes.

Last summer though, I got rather intimate with a pill normally used to for ADD (i think it was called concerta or something) that we used to call "giddy ups" because basically it regulates neurotransmitter re-uptake, energy comes from nowhere, everything feels good and causes you to focus so flippin hard it was like your eyes could actually squeeze the juice from a fruit. first time i took them with my friend who gets them prescribed, we ended up talking philosophy until 6am, went to bed, got up an hour later, cleaned up EVERYTHING in the house and when everything was said and done I just sat in the living room staring at a blank wall for about a half hour

Another time I had a scheduled appt in Minneapolis which at the time I lived about 6 hours away. Since I couldn't afford to stay in a hotel room or anything, my plan was to come straight back after it was over. Left at 5am popped one, popped another some time later, popped two more after the appointment and what not and drove all the way back. the appointment was actually a convention of sorts so i was high as a bottle rocket for the entire thing. it was night time driving back and i started to hallucinate like WHOA I JUST RAN SOMEONE OVER, giant shoes, and seeing blue colored boomerangs flying everywhere.

whole deal was like an elephant walking on thin ice but everything was ok
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 11, 2010, 04:51:36 am
hey dudes i pretty much know nothing about mushrooms. i think i know a guy who sells, is there anything special i need to know?? like how much is a good dosage for first time or whatever. the guy said he could sell me an ounce ("8 extremely solid trips") for $120. i dont even know if that's a good amount. i just want some for me and my friend.y is half good for 2-3 peeps?

btw oxy mixed with other shit is awful, it just made me feel nauseous. does dissolving it w/ cold water through a coffee filter really work?? y tablets say TEC on them
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 11, 2010, 04:53:41 am
*but i suggest you also grab a kit
*and grow some fo your own
*as long as your good at keeping shit sterile
Stephan says (11:52 PM):
*its safe, easy, and you buy it once, and then just grow as much as you want from that
*casue a spore syringe is 50$ and its potential for as much mushies as your little minds desire

what the fuck that sounds weird as hell does anyone grow their own here
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Post by: meat.lover on March 11, 2010, 04:59:16 am
2-3 grams of mushrooms would be a good first trip i'd imagine. i did 3.5 my first time and it was awesome. if you've done any psychedelics before then you'll def have no problem.

i thought about growing my own once, it doesn't look too hard.
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Post by: meat.lover on March 11, 2010, 04:59:46 am
and yeah, a half ounce will def cover 2-3 people
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 11, 2010, 05:42:20 am
how much is half an ounce? is $70-80a normal price?
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Post by: bort on March 11, 2010, 06:27:10 am
unless you have another way of getting them, think about what you will end up paying to trip, and if that's worth it to you.

a half ounce is 14g. $20 eighths for four people. does that sound good to you?
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 11, 2010, 09:14:51 am
*but i suggest you also grab a kit
*and grow some fo your own
*as long as your good at keeping shit sterile
Stephan says (11:52 PM):
*its safe, easy, and you buy it once, and then just grow as much as you want from that
*casue a spore syringe is 50$ and its potential for as much mushies as your little minds desire

what the fuck that sounds weird as hell does anyone grow their own here

I've done it before and it is weird as hell, then again nearly everything about mushrooms is weird. Its a little less strange if you have a place to keep them where its out of sight but you're better off just buying them.

Its a great idea if you want to sell or trip on shrooms regularly but I wouldn't recommended either
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Post by: Carrion Crow on March 13, 2010, 03:39:44 am
i am
so
fucking
stoned
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 13, 2010, 09:31:27 am
dude, so am i. i'm fucking higgh as balls
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 13, 2010, 09:37:34 am
jesus christ oxy, coke and tyons of weed all in the same partty, ahhh i'm fucked
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 13, 2010, 11:36:04 am
Go easy bub you're playing with fire right there.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 13, 2010, 03:40:52 pm
ugh i don't want to be the next buttkiller :(
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on March 13, 2010, 03:41:44 pm
i don't even want to imagine what i was saying last night. i hope people still want to talk to me ever again
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Post by: meat.lover on March 15, 2010, 03:27:23 am
got higher than i've ever been off weed today. my cousin had shit that had like...white fur on it. felt as intense as shrooms at some points, just less (hardly any) open eyed visuals.
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Post by: Ragnar on March 15, 2010, 03:35:14 am
I just want to say for the record I guess drugs can help in the creative process but no amount of drugs can produce something as amazing as Spy Who Love You Me
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 15, 2010, 04:24:12 am
I just want to say for the record I guess drugs can help in the creative process but no amount of drugs can produce something as amazing as Spy Who Love You Me
Jenkem
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Post by: Farren on March 15, 2010, 09:23:55 am
ewwwwwwwwwww
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Post by: Madolah on March 18, 2010, 02:32:37 am
Hey GoldenRatio, How'd the mesc go? Im fairly interested in the stuff...
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Post by: Madolah on March 27, 2010, 04:00:34 pm
Hey GoldenRatio, How'd the mesc go? Im fairly interested in the stuff...

Tell Me god dammit! Also how much does Mescal cost you in Nevada anyway?
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Post by: Farren on March 27, 2010, 05:01:02 pm
He showed me where he was getting it awhile ago I think and it was off of ebay buying it in half pounds at a time I think. I'm not sure how it went though because he never got back to me on it either.

I'd also like to know.
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 27, 2010, 09:12:44 pm
san pedro cacti
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Post by: Farren on March 31, 2010, 12:31:03 am
so I read on CNN that marijuana is going to be up for legalization on the california ballot this year?

I'm getting a hardon just thinking about it. Good timing too because those bastards are trying to take my spice away.
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Post by: Beasley on March 31, 2010, 12:49:02 am
cali needs the tax money anyway so they should just go ahead and do that
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Post by: goldenratio on March 31, 2010, 12:52:58 am
its not mescal, and despite what anyone says Mescal (or Mezcal) does not have mescaline in it; it's made with blue agave. Maybe some "moonshine" mescal would, or could, but mescal is just an alcoholic drink.

I bought like 2 oz. of dried pieces, which is my favorite way to go. I just soak them in water for like 24 hours, then do maybe 2-3 boilings and reduce it down and drank. but these sat around for a while and weren't good because it was like a threshold dose or something. Maybe a weak batch, I dunno. I can't stand the fresh cuttings, so I go with dried, but it's always a crap shoot. Nothing like peyote.

But mescaline is probably my favorite drug, but maybe I haven't done LSD enough. It's really mellow compared to mushies, not so MINDFUCKTIMETRAVEL just more glowy and dreamlike. It's like an impressionist painting. imo. i love mescaline.
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Post by: meat.lover on March 31, 2010, 01:08:54 am
low doses of LSD are very glowy/dreamy imo. never tried mescaline but it sounds really neat.
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 31, 2010, 05:05:00 am
Good timing too because those bastards are trying to take my spice away.
gross dude you smoke that shit?
I would much rather just smoke real weed than some legal budz sprayed down with synthetic cannabanoids
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 31, 2010, 08:04:17 am
Been poppin modafinil lately and this stuff is my new jam. My doc wrote me a prescription for it after I told him that i think I've got shift-work sleep disorder and its helpped me out a lot. Fuck addies or caffeine for all-nighters, this stuff keeps me awake and focused without the jitters or stress.
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Post by: PTizzle on March 31, 2010, 08:49:18 am
cali needs the tax money anyway so they should just go ahead and do that


Apparently it'd bring in like a billion a year in taxes so they should probably seriously think about it.

I've been smoking weed again recently after a long hiatus. I love weed. It's like after going out and partying with friends and doing ecstasy and drinking heaps it's just such a nice chillout. Had a night on benzos and a gram last night and wrote some crazy rhymes, it was weird because it was like coming back to a familiar train of thought (from being a past stoner) and it was very warm and comforting. Was also playing games real well, plus I spent like an hour mixing the fuck out of what is done of the GW posse track so far and I'm really happy with it.

Still, gonna keep it to certain evenings, I don't wanna be a daily stoner like I once was. Psychedelics seem to have lost their lustre for me for the time being funnily enough. I get the feeling the next few months is gonna be weed/benzos/nitrous in evenings just to get into that chilled but introspective state of mind to get shit like writing and mixing done.
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 31, 2010, 11:56:22 am
I dunno man when you're planning your drug use by the month, you might want to reevaluate the role that drugs play in your life
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Post by: PTizzle on March 31, 2010, 01:13:56 pm
not like I get fucked up every night or anything, I just go through 'phases' of what I'm enjoying.



*in 3 months ptizzle is an ice head*
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Post by: Barack Obama on March 31, 2010, 01:48:03 pm
not like I get fucked up every night or anything, I just go through 'phases' of what I'm enjoying.



*in 3 months ptizzle is an ice head*
Ohhh my bad I read that as "imma be takin bars, bongrips, and sucking balloons every evening next month"
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Post by: PTizzle on March 31, 2010, 03:21:02 pm
Haha nah man, I've learned from my past and seen enough people to know that is bad! Bad!

Besides, nitrous is way too expensive 8).
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Post by: Farren on April 01, 2010, 01:09:34 am
gross dude you smoke that shit?
I would much rather just smoke real weed than some legal budz sprayed down with synthetic cannabanoids

only because I have to dude. I'd smoke the real shit if it was legal, not in a drug screen, or if I didn't get drug screened randomly. The stuff I buy (called pep spice) is flavored in strawberry, spearment, and some other flavors and its not nearly as bad tasting as the other stuff. Its stronger then regular weed too so if you're trying not to lose your job on a random its worth it. Although I'd really rather do the real stuff even if reggie over the spice anytime.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 02, 2010, 06:14:27 am
http://analogik.com/acid_trip/acid_trip.html

i'm tempted to try something like this
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Post by: Pulits on April 03, 2010, 11:43:26 pm
The situation in Mexico has changed so much in the last few years. Even though I want to try many, many drugs (I've only tried MJ) and I know where to get them (shrooms, LSD, X, bla bla), buying those drugs means I support in a way drug cartels by giving them money. Safety is now a big, big concern in Mexico, specially in the north where there are daily shootings between cartels, police and army. So until its solved or something, I'll say goodbye to drugs for now. :(
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Post by: Marmot on April 05, 2010, 02:45:36 am
The situation in Mexico has changed so much in the last few years. Even though I want to try many, many drugs (I've only tried MJ) and I know where to get them (shrooms, LSD, X, bla bla), buying those drugs means I support in a way drug cartels by giving them money. Safety is now a big, big concern in Mexico, specially in the north where there are daily shootings between cartels, police and army. So until its solved or something, I'll say goodbye to drugs for now. :(

tbh evcen buying booze is supporting the cartels. they thugout at small shop owners and make them sell their booze
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Post by: Farren on April 05, 2010, 04:39:25 pm
I also read somewhere that alot of pot is smuggled throughout the US from those same cartels so pretty much if you buy pot anywhere in the americas you could possibly be giving them money.

Thats why I say we must grow dope for the homeland
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 06, 2010, 04:30:28 am
hooooolly shit acid is awesome
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Post by: Farren on April 06, 2010, 04:32:53 pm
did you find god yet?

hint: its inside of you
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Post by: dragonx on April 06, 2010, 05:14:23 pm
how do i do drug in canada
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Post by: goldenratio on April 06, 2010, 05:44:02 pm
ive done acid a few times. i had a really potent couple of hits once. I shared one hit with a girl and we both tripped decently. I have a friend in cali that can get a lot of really good acid, and he's working on getting some to me, so I can't wait.

the other day i took a xanax and i fuckin zombied out in front of the computer and before I knew it 6 hours had passed and it was like 1am. Xanax are awesome.
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Post by: Buttkiller on April 06, 2010, 09:48:22 pm
going to see ODDSAC on april 20th in boston on an eighth of shrooms with like 8 people
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 07, 2010, 10:44:17 pm
did you find god yet?

hint: its inside of you

my friend started talking like he was a messiah but i don't think god ever came across my mind. it was pretty fucking sweet because when we started it was a beautiful sunny day outside and the weather turned for the worse into a giant storm, coinciding with our trip as it progressed, and then the storm passed and there was a beautiful sunset and it was the best thing i could ever ask for.

we also recorded 30 minutes of music but it was garbage
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Post by: goldenratio on April 07, 2010, 10:58:50 pm
the last time i took a lot of E, we went to like a beach in SF at around 4am, and layed watching the sun rise. There was this huge cloud in the sky, it resembled a long long carpet or something. just a giant band of clouds in the. I remember watching it, and there was like all sorts of creatures and people and scenes in it. I could see all the ancient and contemporary religious/spiritual/mystical symbols and shit. It was amazing. Watching that cloud, I realized where all religion comes from. DRUGS.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 07, 2010, 11:15:58 pm
i cant wait to try shrooms now
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Post by: Farren on April 08, 2010, 12:24:18 am
shrooms are fun but imo they're alot less serious and life shaping than acid can be. But I've never took a fuckload of em at once. I had an ounce all to myself but I didn't eat more then five or six of em at a time until I gobbled em all up. I shared about a quarter of em though.
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Post by: meat.lover on April 08, 2010, 03:41:53 am
it's been the opposite for me, actually! I've never really had a 'life changing' or really serious trip on acid, while i have on shrooms.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on April 09, 2010, 04:34:22 am
I've had a serious trip on acid before, but it wasn't really life changing.

I've also had a life changing trip on shrooms before, but it wasn't really serious.
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Post by: goldenratio on April 09, 2010, 08:58:25 pm
bros i took another xannie today. this is nice. I think they are 1mg pills. which is pretty cool. The 4-split bars are usually 2mg right? Each section is 0.5mg? These are 1mg im sure. I still have 3 of them. Trying to space them out so I dont lose effectiveness.
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Post by: Buttkiller on April 11, 2010, 05:06:07 am
couple  bottles of robitussin and like 4 beers im a big catg like a bigass housecat not a Predatory Creatyture like a lion/simlar
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Post by: Alec on April 11, 2010, 11:28:39 am
all cats are predators hoss
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Post by: Buttkiller on April 17, 2010, 04:31:33 am
lmao i dont dremember posting that but im on a couple bottles of robitussin again and i decided to cfome on here to say im a huge fucking cat[[l;''
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Post by: Farren on April 17, 2010, 08:15:22 am
all house cats do is get fat and lay there

do you really want to be a house cat
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Post by: Buttkiller on April 17, 2010, 06:40:53 pm
 tyes
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 17, 2010, 11:08:24 pm
methadone - worth trying??
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Post by: meat.lover on April 18, 2010, 03:34:58 am
method ruiend my fathers life i saw him slowly die on that shit so no noatrually im not gonna recommend it goddamn dude sorry i dont mean to get personal but ouch i ccccccantbelieve anyoune would want to try opiates seriously it ruins everything it ruiend my life fuck.       
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Post by: crone_lover720 on April 18, 2010, 04:54:02 am
wow bubpit don't you feel like a fat spoiled baby now. but seriously that really blows meat lover
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Post by: meat.lover on April 18, 2010, 03:51:57 pm
haha whoops that's mildly embarrassing for me. DRUNK/HIGH POST BY RYAN. anyways no methadone is not worth trying unless you really feel the need for a synthetic opiate addiction.
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Post by: PTizzle on April 18, 2010, 03:55:14 pm
methadone - worth trying??

No way, not at all. I've heard/seen nothing but bad from it. Most opiates/oids are the bomb though.

bros i took another xannie today. this is nice. I think they are 1mg pills. which is pretty cool. The 4-split bars are usually 2mg right? Each section is 0.5mg? These are 1mg im sure. I still have 3 of them. Trying to space them out so I dont lose effectiveness.

It's really cool you can feel it, most people are just like "what is this shit rarrrgh" when they have one. I can definitely feel it. I think they're pretty easy going and subtle so a lot of people just kinda pass on them but benzos are pretty amazing, even if you gotta be careful with them.
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Post by: Barack Obama on April 18, 2010, 04:44:52 pm
methadone - worth trying??
lol were you seriously considering slamming methadone?

shit if you really want that high, try heroin or fentanyl. I've smoked/snorted bumps of heroin before and it feels REALLY GOOD but it's not really something I think is worth seeking out considering the serious potential for a particularly horrible addiction.
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Post by: big ass skelly on April 18, 2010, 05:24:02 pm
I didn't know you were ryan meat.lover. I thought you left
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Post by: dicko on April 18, 2010, 05:35:20 pm
i do not do drugs my feeble body cannot handle them

also i dont like the "image"
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 18, 2010, 07:22:54 pm
yeah that was dumb I read up on it right after I posted that and didn't want to try it, ever. It makes sense that my friend who offered it just got off a heroin addiction that lasted a year
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Post by: meat.lover on April 19, 2010, 01:48:02 am
I didn't know you were ryan meat.lover. I thought you left

nah drule banned me a couple months ago cuz i hurt his feelings or something

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Post by: Farren on April 19, 2010, 05:02:53 am
I'm totally backing ryan up on the methadone that shit is really dangerous, one of my brothers friends died from it.

On the other hand this is my second day in a row rolling like a choo-choo train. I think this shits speed based so I'm kind of wired but its also pretty chillaxed.

Also speaking of xanax I got a video of a guy that took two bars last night and he was pretty hilarious, lemme see if its any good or not.
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Post by: Farren on April 19, 2010, 05:05:00 am
nvm it sucks because I deleted two vids to make room but the guy sat on my computer for like ten minutes trying to type the word "gorilla"
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Post by: meat.lover on April 19, 2010, 04:42:17 pm
GUYS



TOMORROW IS 4/20
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Post by: Mince Wobley on April 19, 2010, 06:08:32 pm
Hitler's bday
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Post by: Allen Hunter on April 19, 2010, 08:20:18 pm
almost over here!
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Post by: Marmot on April 20, 2010, 04:59:56 am
methadone - worth trying??

ive slammed opiates b4. they are p.boring you just melt and they are not worth the horrible addiction potential
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Post by: Farren on April 20, 2010, 08:26:32 am
ugghhh

I can't smoke weed today but I will smoke spice and miss weed
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Post by: PTizzle on April 20, 2010, 08:51:53 am
wtf i just realised it was 4/20
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Post by: dicko on April 20, 2010, 10:46:23 am
happy 420 everyone!

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Post by: Buttkiller on April 21, 2010, 02:20:32 pm
i went to see ODDSAC yesterday tripping on shrooms, it eas really very good
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 23, 2010, 07:32:17 am
Anyone ever tried cocaine?
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Post by: Brad on April 23, 2010, 08:21:44 am
I just did acid the other night...........


holy

fuck.
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Post by: Brad on April 23, 2010, 08:22:17 am
like wow.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 23, 2010, 02:45:18 pm
I envy you
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Post by: Barack Obama on April 23, 2010, 07:02:08 pm
Anyone ever tried cocaine?
cocaine is pretty awesome, but the fact that buying it supports all sorts of shitty criminal networks is kind of a big reason to avoid spending money on it. If someone offers you a line, snort it up and drink like a champ
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Post by: dada on April 23, 2010, 07:16:07 pm
happy 420 everyone!

this is a brilliant video :)

you know I've actually tried to smoke weed. but inhaling smoke is the most disgusting thing ever so I never actually smoked enough to feel anything. I just can't seem to get that stuff down my trachea.
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Post by: big ass skelly on April 23, 2010, 07:22:19 pm
Dada you should try a vapouriser if you actually want to try it.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 23, 2010, 08:48:22 pm
cocaine is pretty awesome, but the fact that buying it supports all sorts of shitty criminal networks is kind of a big reason to avoid spending money on it. If someone offers you a line, snort it up and drink like a champ

That's an honorable thing to do. In my country any drug supports criminal networks of thieves and armed dealers. My intention is to plant the cannabis in the future.

(btw, maybe your cannabis is "dirty" too)
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Post by: Barack Obama on April 23, 2010, 10:14:40 pm
That's an honorable thing to do. In my country any drug supports criminal networks of thieves and armed dealers. My intention is to plant the cannabis in the future.

(btw, maybe your cannabis is "dirty" too)
nope. weed in the pacific northwest of the USA has a pretty short way to travel from basement to baggie especially considering there's so many legal growers with medical marijuana licenses
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Post by: Farren on April 24, 2010, 01:47:17 am
hey dada you live in rotterdam right? why don't you go to a cafe and buy it baked? You can get all kinds of cookies and brownies and stuff I heard and it'll get you high. More of a body high I think but highs high.

And smoking weed is pretty much something you've got to force yourself to start out with if you don't like smoking in the first place and its always harsher than ciggy smoke in that its prolly gonna make you cough alot. I second the vaporizer suggestion though but they're pretty expensive from what I understand.
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Post by: goldenratio on April 24, 2010, 07:51:11 pm
ive done a lot of coke but i have never paid for it. i've always said coke is a waste of money but if its free then it's quite awesome.

and bros, i've got a vaporizer they are not expensive. I have the standard, "box" one with the tube and all that, digital thermometer and it was 50 bucks. Totally worth the money. The best thing about it, is you can smoke regs or even stress probably and you get basically the same high as chronic. The vapor has a very distinct taste/smell, and its identical no matter what type of stuff you put in it. Obviously with chronic it's more potent, but you dont get a headache or other unpleasantness that you normally get with crappier weed.

also I'm not sure about it being easier to smoke. You can certainly draw it in your lungs easier, it's not that irritating or anything and usually you don't feel it. But, it is sort of harsh and you'll probably cough. Since you dont feel the smoke you can take too large of hits on accident. But yeah man vapes are the SHIT. It's like the cleanest, most long-lasting high you can get (aside from eating it I suppose). I can seriously smoke a vape and be good for like 5 hours, droopy-eyed and everything. It's great.
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Post by: jamie on April 24, 2010, 07:56:19 pm
I have never tried cocaine but I want to. Well, I supposedly tried it once a couple of years ago but I really think that was fake.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 24, 2010, 08:51:26 pm
Be careful for the overdose
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Post by: Farren on April 25, 2010, 01:57:57 am
jamie come to florida and I'll let you stay at my condo and do some coke with ye

I've really been meaning to get a couple of grams and have some friends over because the last time and first time I even actually snorted it, it was pretty fun but I only got like a line and a half or some shit and really didn't feel it as much as I'd like.

gr can you give me a decent name brand of vaporizors? my brother wanted one last christmas and he looked around but he couldn't find any good non-crazy expensive ones that weren't really cheaply made.
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Post by: goldenratio on April 25, 2010, 03:23:58 am
i dont think mine has a brand name, its just some generic one i got in a smoke shop.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on April 25, 2010, 04:45:29 am
for some reason when it matters most its hardest to find some.

ps. dealers are fucking scumbags
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 25, 2010, 09:07:34 am
Also be careful for addiction. It's from finding it all "fun" (ist it just me that feels that my soul gains a sadness with cocaine - no, I read and heard that from others too) that you'll want to do that again, feel that confidence, power, extreme energy and positivity, no will to eat or sleep, and handle more drinks than anyone.
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Post by: Buttkiller on April 25, 2010, 09:51:15 pm
jamie come to florida and I'll let you stay at my condo and do some coke with ye

I've really been meaning to get a couple of grams and have some friends over because the last time and first time I even actually snorted it, it was pretty fun but I only got like a line and a half or some shit and really didn't feel it as much as I'd like.

gr can you give me a decent name brand of vaporizors? my brother wanted one last christmas and he looked around but he couldn't find any good non-crazy expensive ones that weren't really cheaply made.

you didn't ask me but http://www.vaporgenie.com

really inexpensive and easy to use and works perfectly, i lost mine but it was probably the best $50 i've ever spent on something drugrelated
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Post by: Farren on April 26, 2010, 01:18:17 am
alright, I'll check it out when I get back home. Thanks man
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Post by: Marmot on April 26, 2010, 08:45:17 am
man fuck cocaine. that shit is dangerous. knew a kid who was a valedictorian and failed freshman year in a blaze of glory and with -$11,000 of a bank account
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Post by: Marmot on April 26, 2010, 08:46:11 am
this thread is p. gross btw. also i am a space cadet???? space cadet>opiium-eater and coke monster
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Post by: Barack Obama on April 26, 2010, 03:23:22 pm
man fuck cocaine. that shit is dangerous. knew a kid who was a valedictorian and failed freshman year in a blaze of glory and with -$11,000 of a bank account

Some people think they can party
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Post by: Farren on April 26, 2010, 04:39:14 pm
how is it gross?

its not like we're trying to figure out how long you have to inhale a paper bag full of spray paint or how to get drunk off of mouthwash
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Post by: Vellfire on April 26, 2010, 05:23:04 pm
its not like we're trying to figure out how long you have to inhale a paper bag full of spray paint or how to get drunk off of mouthwash

i think this is equally gross as this topic :welp:
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on April 26, 2010, 08:09:52 pm
cocaine is pretty awesome, but the fact that buying it supports all sorts of shitty criminal networks is kind of a big reason to avoid spending money on it. If someone offers you a line, snort it up and drink like a champ

That's the only thing about cocaine though. It's so awesome, you cannot guarantee that after trying it, you wouldn't be more adverse to the prospect of spending money on it just because you have money to spend on it. I mean it's not like people here are not familiar with the idea of getting something you want regardless of the adverse implications of what you do or do not support in getting what you want (you guys that do exactly that know just what I'm talking about). For one thing, the person who offered you that line must have had a reason for getting it anyhow. Hell, it could be the very fact that the person buying it having other people around to share it with is all the reason they could ever need for shelling out the serious cash that goes through those networks despite you personally not spending any of your own money on it.

Either way, I know I am just that kind of person, which is why I won't touch coke even if someone offers me a line and I logically know how awesome I'd feel accepting it for free. I can almost appreciate my overbearing dependence on weed for teaching me this fact. If I have that kind of money anyhow, then I'd be just as fine leaving it to bank or splurging it on some other trivial piece of self-indulgent consumerism. But I can logically tell without even trying it, that a line or two of shit that potent could change my tune with the greatest of ease.
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Post by: Fuck Ass Bitch on April 27, 2010, 01:51:56 am
Crack is even worse
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Post by: meat.lover on May 10, 2010, 06:00:50 pm
been smokin too much weed lately, man. can't talk straight ahhahaa. my dealer is graduating communtiy college with me so he gavem ea discoutn on some good weed.
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Post by: goldenratio on May 10, 2010, 06:04:00 pm
i was over at my dude's place watching the ufc on ppv on saturday. after everyone left he revealed a tub of the dankest thc butter. he said "if you go get some brownie mix i'll mak eit right now" and i said "fuck yeah im gone" and got some shit to make brownies and c-chip cookies. They were bomb! So potent! I ate 2 cookies yesterday on mom's day and we went to olive garden and shit it was pretty dope. This morning i ate the brownie i had, so im chillin at work pretty good. i love this shit.
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Post by: meat.lover on May 10, 2010, 06:33:56 pm
yes eating thc > smoking it. any day imo. the high is so better
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Post by: Farren on May 11, 2010, 12:42:07 am
I've never eaten some really good thc. I made grilled weed sandwiches once but it barely got me high.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on May 11, 2010, 04:10:00 am
i'm high
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Post by: Daniel N on May 11, 2010, 04:32:28 am
Man, cocaine is gross and is probably the most personality-altering drug I've ever seen. It is highly addictive and I can't help but think that everyone who does it on a regular basis are raging dicks.
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 11, 2010, 07:19:34 am
i guess over long-term that's true, cokeheads become pretty paranoid and one-dimensional but that's generally true of almost any stimulant addict. In the context of a non-regular(couple times a month or less) user, I don't think it's alters someone's personality anywhere near as much as say a hit of ecstasy, strong opiate, several cocktails/shots of liquor, or a blunt.
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Post by: Daniel N on May 11, 2010, 08:14:05 am
Well, a couple of times per month is what I'd call frequent use if anything. I guess it depends on how you see it as a user, but the people I'm familiar with who are into coke use it every weekend and have definitely changed a lot due to being hooked on the stuff, becoming impulsive, egocentric, aggressive and annoying.

But yeah I guess that goes for most central stimulants.
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Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 03:30:32 pm
Guys how is ecstasy? Is it comparable to acid?
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 11, 2010, 03:43:37 pm
Guys how is ecstasy? Is it comparable to acid?
it's awesome, and no.
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Post by: goldenratio on May 11, 2010, 04:18:18 pm
yup awesome and definitely not. apparently molly (pure mdma in powder form) is gaining popularity and availability (at least in california, san francisco/santa cruz area) which is pretty sweet.
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Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 04:33:48 pm
yeah i might be doing pure mdma for my first experience with it soon so could you guys give an explanation of the effects??? what should i expect!!!!!!!
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Post by: goldenratio on May 11, 2010, 05:02:42 pm
bro it's just great, don't worry. it's like, everything becomes great. everything is the best thing ever. The lights are brighter and more colorful, every sensation is magnified a million times, you are like a pure rainbow of erotic light. haha that sounds gay as hell but im dead serious. drink water! not too much water, but keep hydrated. Eat some cucumbers bro! Also you are basically going to want to talk a lot and probably even like be physical with people. Not in a gay way or anything but but physical sensations are definitely crazy-awesome. alright im done glorifying it, but seriously pure mdma will be smooth as hell and just great. you are a lucky dude, buddy.
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Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 05:11:06 pm
hows sex? i heard sex on x is like the greatest thing ever but ive also heard you cant even get it up so what gives???
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Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 05:11:48 pm
also my cousin tells me you get awfuuuuuul comedowns that can last about a week for him.
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Post by: goldenratio on May 11, 2010, 05:45:38 pm
the awful comedowns come from "E", not mdma. the very limited experience I have with molly (i have a lot with E though) and the great experience my friend has says that molly is not a bad comedown at all. and as for sex, i've never had sex but if you could it would probably amazing. For me, even though everything was incredibly sensational sex was never on my mind. I probably wouldnt have even been able to get it up, but I don't really know. I enjoy socializing so much that it's like better than sex anyway, but that's just me.
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Post by: Beasley on May 11, 2010, 06:33:23 pm
lol my town takes molly exclusively. no pills, just pure mdma. honestly you couldn't even FIND pills if you wanted to unless you were willing to go to the city
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Post by: Beasley on May 11, 2010, 06:37:42 pm
it's less fun though i like a little cocaine in my mdmas.................
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Post by: Beasley on May 11, 2010, 06:39:48 pm
also ecstasy is so terrible for you i did it like 5 times over the course of last summer (concerts....) but now it's been like 10 months without and im really happy for that!

it just reeeally messes with your brain and if theres anything you should cherish it should be your brain ya know.
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Post by: Buttkiller on May 11, 2010, 06:48:34 pm
hows sex? i heard sex on x is like the greatest thing ever but ive also heard you cant even get it up so what gives???

owns, never had more trouble getting it up than i did with a few shots of whiskey or w/e it wasn't a problem
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Post by: Ryan on May 11, 2010, 07:16:03 pm
sweet, im prob doin it with my girlfriend so lots of sex will hopefully be involved.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on May 11, 2010, 08:08:55 pm
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also my cousin tells me you get awfuuuuuul comedowns that can last about a week for him.

Your cousin is probably telling the truth.  The MDMA comedown can be terrible for some people.  It's not just "E" that does this (what the hell does that even mean?).  "E" usually refers to MDMA but I guess if you are just using it as a blanket term for any sort of club drug in pill form than yeah, you can have some bad comedowns if you end up taking meth, piperzines, etc.  I usually experience pretty severe post use depression after taking a high dose MDMA trip.  As far as sex goes... have fun trying to perform.  It can be pretty difficult for you.  Your girlfriend will probably love you though! :(
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Post by: goldenratio on May 11, 2010, 08:51:28 pm
Ideally E would mean MDMA but it does not. It is a blanket term for mdma/mda pills that generally contain other things, sometimes more than the mdma/mda itself. It's just a way to differentiate pure MDMA from pills that may contain any number of chemicals. You might stumble on E pills that are pure mdma/mda (i've had some, though adulterated is way more common, especially today).
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Post by: Madolah on May 11, 2010, 10:16:36 pm
In other news, Yesterday my Friend bought a Quarter Bag, and in this was a total of 72 Seeds! (0.9g).  Was surprisingly still good bud too...
4 are in  case Germinating now ;)

$30 Closet Op, available only at Wal-Mart :)
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Post by: Farren on May 12, 2010, 12:26:35 am
drink lots of orange juice with mdma and it should keep you rolling for awhile, doing it with your gf would be a really good idea too I think.

Also when my friends do it they like playing with glow sticks a whole lot while listening to music. Not my sort of thing though I totally love listening to music and walking on the beach or looking at the stars or something like that.
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 01:48:32 am
drink lots of orange juice with mdma and it should keep you rolling for awhile, doing it with your gf would be a really good idea too I think.

Also when my friends do it they like playing with glow sticks a whole lot while listening to music. Not my sort of thing though I totally love listening to music and walking on the beach or looking at the stars or something like that.

yeah i feel really lame sometimes but i have a habit of taking psychedelics waaay too seriously. i dunno if thats a good or a bad thing  :welp:
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 09:02:06 am
it's less fun though i like a little cocaine in my mdmas.................
who cuts molly with coke? Usually its another amphetamine like meth or occasionally something like bzp. Coke is far too expensive and short acting to bother cutting something like mdma with
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Post by: How We Became Fire on May 12, 2010, 10:41:38 am
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who cuts molly with coke? Usually its another amphetamine like meth or occasionally something like bzp. Coke is far too expensive and short acting to bother cutting something like mdma with

This.  I have heard people say some ridiculous things while at parties.  HINT: No one cuts a pill with LSD, Coke, Mescaline, etc. Immensely more  expensive drugs in a cheap $5 pill=profit ???

Nah.

My fellow pyschonauts, what is your opinion on Ketamine?  I purchased 2.5 grams recently and I am on the fence on whether I would take it again.  Previous experiences led me to believe that it was an amazing thing, but this was due to the drug cocktail I was taking at the time (Mushrooms and Ketamine).  My recent experiences have been much less ego crushing and amazing.  I really dislike the long, drawn out, dissociated comedown after K-holing but low dosing just doesn't cut it.
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 03:50:34 pm
I haven't played with Ketamine that much. I know it's around because I've heard a few people I know talk about it recently but it's never been one of those things I've gone looking for. I took a pretty big dose once and did the whole 'out of body' K-hole thing once and decided I didn't like it much because I'm not a huge fan of being completely incapacitated. The subsequent times I used it was at parties and I only did bumps to get a little high because I was more interested in socializing than disassociating
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 03:52:46 pm
yeah i've heard ketamine actually kind of sucks!

i'm really interested in trying mescaline. my uncle (who was from the sounds of it a psychonaut during the 60s/70s) said it was the best drug he ever used. he was also apparently using PCP for like 40 years though so.........
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 04:06:19 pm
it's pretty fun if you don't overdo it, the problem is that it's really easy to because the dose for it to get really awesome is pretty close to K-hole territory and when you cross that line you're basically not able to do anything
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 04:24:41 pm
favorite drug go go go

mine so far is probably mushrooms. i have yet to have anything but great experiences with shrooms. acid is really cool and i can totally see having wonderful experiences with it but it's just so ridiculously hard to find around here plus it lasts fuckin forever.
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Post by: Farren on May 12, 2010, 04:40:52 pm
Prolly a fuckload of weed with some shrooms

candyflips are fun if you can ever get those
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Post by: goldenratio on May 12, 2010, 04:43:17 pm
mescaline is def my favorite. Woo!!
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Post by: Farren on May 12, 2010, 04:44:36 pm
I like tripping and rolling but it makes me pretty jittery and I don't like being jittery at all. Does mdma make you jittery too by itself? I don't think I've taken just the pure stuff yet so I dunno.

Shrooms always keep me pretty chill tho but sometimes I get jittery on them too
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 04:45:05 pm
probably the old combo of nicotine+caffeine, that treats me right. Hello future heart disease!

On the illegal side of things, probably DMT and not because it's fun or anything but just how goddamn powerful that stuff is. I've tripped a lot with a bunch of different drugs but none have really kicked open the 'doors of perception' like that DMT does. Breaking through on it will really shake you to your foundation because what happens is truly unimaginable.
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 04:51:45 pm
speaking of DMT: LOL (http://www.alexgrey.com/obama.html)
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 04:59:16 pm
man i would try DMT in a heartbeat if i could ever find any. :(
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 05:05:06 pm
it's really spooky stuff and the experience can really haunt you. I don't think I'd ever do it in a heartbeat, I'd have to sit on it and wait for the right time to present itself. First few times I did it was with pretty reckless abandon until I went overboard and got rocked with the whole "entities" things all up in my business. Even over a year later I get a little anxious just thinking about it because it's one of the few times in my life I'd been completely petrified in terror/confusion/awe
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 05:08:38 pm
oh shit yeah i've been reading some of the experiences from erowid and it sounds pretty intense! is it really that much more intense though than a hefty dose of shrooms or acid?
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 05:28:54 pm
oh shit yeah i've been reading some of the experiences from erowid and it sounds pretty intense! is it really that much more intense though than a hefty dose of shrooms or acid?
I dunno, mushrooms can take you to pretty strange places if you eat enough of them. Psilocybin is also a tryptamine that gets up in the same places in your brain cell receptors as DMT does and I imagine that if you were able to freebase it then the experience could probably get close, but short of eating several handfuls of mushrooms I don't think the two really compare. Acid is just different altogether, but I've heard of people taking outrageous amounts and never snapping back out of it completely but I'm not sure if it's the same thing.

DMT trips come on in seconds peaking almost instantly which is pretty startling, reality completely melts away into like a fully conscious dream and you go through so much so fast while having little to no control over it. I can't imagine any other drug comparing to its intensity outside of taking extreme amounts.
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Post by: Ryan on May 12, 2010, 05:32:40 pm
oh damn. i've always thought of acid and mushrooms as two sides of the same coin. mushrooms have always seemed more personal and more of a 'mental' high, while acid was a lot more visual and felt more... i dunno, ROBOTIC. like it just feels more...synthetic to me. shrooms feel more natural, like i'm some nutty witchdoctor or shaman or something.
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 12, 2010, 05:45:48 pm
Well here's my subjective comparison:

LSD sorta emphasizes what's already there, in your mind or the outside world. Like you can stare at the texture pattern on walls and the little lumps will grow into huge mounds/islands, or a fabric pattern will stretch off into the horizon or whatever. Also whatever emotions/feelings/personal shit or whatnot in your mind can get blown out of proportion or seem laughably insignificant

Mushrooms will sorta breath life into everything, things start pulshing/breathing and all of the faculties in your mind that make you a "higher animal" start breaking down and you become just an animal. I think that's the whole primal/witchdoctory thing you're describing.

DMT is a just balls out replacement of reality, and on high doses this can mean full on open-eyed visual replacement of your surroundings with all sorts of patterns/motifs/fractals moving around in synchronicity and confrontation of some sort of manifestation of 'beings' or archetypes. It's completely bananas and unlike anything else other than maybe extreme near death experiences.
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Post by: Farren on May 13, 2010, 01:55:23 am
I'd probably try dmt one time just to completely breakdown my concept of reality but I'm the kind of person that once I see some crazy ass shit like that I'll never ever forget it.

I still get flashbacks sometimes from the last time I took candyflips and then acid the very next day so I can't imagine what DMT would do to me.
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Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2010, 02:06:25 am
what is candyflipping like exactly?
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Post by: Farren on May 13, 2010, 02:15:30 am
its like rolling and tripping at the same time
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Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2010, 02:17:01 am
whoa. really?
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Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2010, 02:20:28 am
actually i was asking because i have heard from a few people that candyflipping is unlike the normal effects of acid or MDMA.
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Post by: Farren on May 13, 2010, 02:22:11 am
yeah its pretty cool you get that free love kind of feeling that gr was talking about plus you see some tracers and other shit depending on how powerful the dosage is.

I only did it once though and it wasn't that strong for me so I barely saw anything and just rolled and felt a little trippy basically.

dunno dude I never heard that, guess it depends on what you take. I felt like I was rolling and my bro and his friends said that it was triprollin so I'm gonna go with that.
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Post by: Ryan on May 13, 2010, 02:25:26 am
acid is not fun for me unless i do at least a moderate dose. at lower dosages it's basically just me being perfectly normal except seeing slight visuals and feeling kind of discomforted. and not being able to sleep for a good 15 hours.
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Post by: Beasley on May 13, 2010, 02:29:48 am
the awful comedowns come from "E", not mdma.

no way! what the mdmas are doing is essentially fucking with the neuro receptors in your brain, dumping massive amounts of serotonin (a "feel good" neurotransmitter) into your system all at once. way more then anything that can be reached naturally. serotonin takes a long time to regenerate, and if you do enough your body may not have enough to naturally generate those "good feelings" on a day to day basis. hence the post roll depression some report.

this is how all forms of ecstasy, pure or no, function.
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Post by: Beasley on May 13, 2010, 02:33:51 am
who cuts molly with coke? Usually its another amphetamine like meth or occasionally something like bzp. Coke is far too expensive and short acting to bother cutting something like mdma with

you are probably right! in truth i only took pills once like 2 years ago and its totally possible my hook was misinformed on the cut. highschool  :welp:
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Post by: goldenratio on May 13, 2010, 05:18:19 am
no way! what the mdmas are doing is essentially fucking with the neuro receptors in your brain, dumping massive amounts of serotonin (a "feel good" neurotransmitter) into your system all at once. way more then anything that can be reached naturally. serotonin takes a long time to regenerate, and if you do enough your body may not have enough to naturally generate those "good feelings" on a day to day basis. hence the post roll depression some report.

this is how all forms of ecstasy, pure or no, function.
I think maybe I meant hangover then. If you have a tendency to be depressed or have thoughts like that, then yeah the comedown will not be "good" on mdma, everything will feel really bland and you may even feel deep sadness that everything isn't perfect anymore and in fact most things suck.

also, do not drink alcohol during the roll, but after you come down, like maybe the next day, seriously drink a bunch of beer and pass out. It's the best thing to do, trust me.
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 13, 2010, 03:22:41 pm
no way! what the mdmas are doing is essentially fucking with the neuro receptors in your brain, dumping massive amounts of serotonin (a "feel good" neurotransmitter) into your system all at once. way more then anything that can be reached naturally. serotonin takes a long time to regenerate, and if you do enough your body may not have enough to naturally generate those "good feelings" on a day to day basis. hence the post roll depression some report.

this is how all forms of ecstasy, pure or no, function.
Yeah but when its cut with something like meth the next day is especially awful because not only has your brain been flushed of most of its serotonin, but also dopamine which is IMO a much worse feeling and that's probably what he meant
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 13, 2010, 03:29:21 pm
Best way for me to get over the post e blues is to just take it easy the next day: lounge in the sun, run a bath, drink some tea, put off all social engagements and just chill out watching movies and eating comfort food or something
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Post by: Farren on May 13, 2010, 04:34:02 pm
I've never really felt post E depression

I get really tired though if it keeps me up all night
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on May 13, 2010, 05:52:55 pm
I've never really felt post E depression

I get really tired though if it keeps me up all night

Same here, I reckon it's either because I'm easygoing enough to ride the downslope gracefully, or being in that depressed state is just natural enough for me to not even notice it. :fogetemo:

Although the stuff is so hard to come by, I can tell if what I've taken has been laced with some shit I know I wouldn't have taken otherwise, which can be annoying depending on what it is.

I've found that sleep deprivation produces sort of a natural high for me, so taking it at a time that would keep me up is usually an intentional bonus.
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Post by: Buttkiller on May 15, 2010, 01:24:16 am
salvia is the only drug i'm scared of, it just beats you into submission and is often painful/terrifying and then you're fucked for like 5 hours
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Post by: Farren on May 15, 2010, 01:27:39 am
what salvia doesn't last that long
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Post by: Buttkiller on May 15, 2010, 01:34:47 am
the feeling of being absolutely retarded afterwards does
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Post by: Farren on May 15, 2010, 01:45:03 am
hey do you also fall over everytime you take a good hit of that stuff?

back when it was still attainable I'd keel over everytime I got high off of it and couldn't move for shit.
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Post by: Buttkiller on May 15, 2010, 01:50:41 am
i always try to move but am just hit with wave after wave of ownage until i shut up and lie down and laugh
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on May 15, 2010, 03:40:15 am
dear god i'm high again
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 15, 2010, 04:02:06 am
I haven't been high in like a couple months since I last tried methylone. Methylone is pretty awesome stuff, it's like a shorter/milder dose of MDMA so you can keep it under control in public and still feel awesome
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Post by: Buttkiller on May 24, 2010, 08:26:33 am
i took a bunch of codeine syrup and alcohol and weed on saturday and i can't remember anything and now it's 4:26 on monday :|
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Post by: PTizzle on May 24, 2010, 08:29:46 am
I've never really felt post E depression

I get really tired though if it keeps me up all night

I have a tiny bit but I'm honestly thinking it's just the alcohol I consumed during the night, hangovers are by far the worst 'morning-after' feeling I've had from drugs. The amount of alcohol the average person consumes is probably huge compared to drug doses but still.

i took a bunch of codeine syrup and alcohol and weed on saturday and i can't remember anything and now it's 4:26 on monday :|

That'll do it. Just be thankful you didn't have any benzos or it might be an extra few days (or dead).

codeine owns sometimes for such a weak opiate. codeine + promethazine is good times.



i'm getting weed on wednesday for the first time in quite a while and i'm excited, it's so silly. I guess I've been drinking a lot and have been totally off drugs but man I miss the feeling of it. i have like 5 movies lined up to watch.

the plus side is I've convinced myself to get all my uni work done by then so i can just get blunted for 3 days straight and watch movies and relax.
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Post by: Impeal on May 24, 2010, 02:14:14 pm
i have smoked pot nearly every day since i stopped internetting and it is definitely a way better vice
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Post by: PTizzle on May 24, 2010, 03:21:02 pm
i plan to get good at team fortress 2 again and make about 20 rap songs that i'll shake my head at and delete.

but yeah, it is a better vice, it just makes me anxious sometimes and lazy most of the time so i've heavily cut back in the past year. i had a certain month-long non stop smoking period last year after exams while playing fallout 3 and day of defeat every day that i'd rather not repeat.
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Post by: Ryan on May 24, 2010, 03:44:31 pm
since i've started working at dominoes i pretty much stay high 24/7. it rules! i drive around, smoke weed, and listen to music all day
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 24, 2010, 06:37:44 pm
burn some zizek lectures to CD and just have that slovenian charmer blow your mind for a lil bit
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Post by: PTizzle on May 25, 2010, 07:05:19 am
TED makes me feel like I'm not wasting my time while high
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Post by: Madolah on May 25, 2010, 06:06:41 pm
So Acid is unavailable where I live.  There is no such thing as a sheet of Acid on Newfoundland right now, Sad times :(
I've asked multiple people who usually have some or are a call away from it but even them and their suppliers are looking :(
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Post by: pig style on May 26, 2010, 01:13:57 am
Me and my bud have been lookin for acid for awhile but the only thing we can find is e laced with it. It's a seasonal thing isn't it?
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Post by: Farren on May 26, 2010, 01:29:59 am
after seeing that clip dada left I've wanted to get really really fucking high and watch dragon ballz

I don't even know why but I think it would be really funny
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Post by: Ryan on May 26, 2010, 07:13:15 am
question: when i go see p-funk in july should i do X or acid? weed is a given but im at a loss as to which would make this an even better concert. on one hand dancin' would be a lot more fun on X but.................maggot brain on acid :(
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 26, 2010, 12:27:43 pm
Me and my bud have been lookin for acid for awhile but the only thing we can find is e laced with it. It's a seasonal thing isn't it?

I don't think I've ever heard of E laced with acid. Usually when people candyflip they eat them separately because soaking E in LSD is just dumb and time consuming. Are you sure they're not selling something like 2c-i and passing it off as an MDMA+LSD combo?
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Post by: Barack Obama on May 26, 2010, 12:29:21 pm
question: when i go see p-funk in july should i do X or acid? weed is a given but im at a loss as to which would make this an even better concert. on one hand dancin' would be a lot more fun on X but.................maggot brain on acid :(
maybe a light dose of LSD would be fun. dropping a huge dose in a crowded funk show could get a little out of hand and potentially go in a lot of unplanned directions.
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Post by: Farren on May 26, 2010, 10:41:44 pm
I'd do the E

not for acid in such an open public place like that
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on May 27, 2010, 09:20:25 pm
LSD in a public place sounds like a terrible idea, but someone with more experience would be better informed.
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Post by: mkkmypet on May 30, 2010, 06:11:58 am
soo i smoked weed again, two weekends in a row. i still have some left so i'll probably be smoking tomorrow too.
i'm mostly sober again now, but i guess im still coming down a little bit. hmmmmmmmmm
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Post by: gnobakot on May 30, 2010, 06:36:19 am
cool
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Post by: Ryan on May 31, 2010, 08:25:36 am
so tomorrow night i'm doin' E with my girlfriend and her ~smokin' hot~ asian friend.
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Post by: Ryan on June 01, 2010, 12:55:13 am
also how do you guys find dealers? ive always met mine through work but surprisingly enough no one at dominoes is in to anything at all so i'm kind of at a loss. i'm in a new city and all so any tips would be nice!
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on June 01, 2010, 04:01:29 am
go to a party/dance venue, make friends and ask around
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on June 01, 2010, 05:03:49 am
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/08/090816-cocaine-money.html
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Post by: mkkmypet on June 01, 2010, 05:28:55 am
school, parties, friends-of-friends. i live in a suburb but it has an unusually large drug market going on because it's right next to Detroit.

edit: also, local events. for example, DEMF (Detroit Electronic Music Festival) a.k.a TechFest was just this past weekend and i know a ton of people who got majorly drugged up for it, haha. and the weekend before was the local fair/carnival with all sorts of rides and junk food and stuff, and there's always dealers there (including some of the carnies, hah).
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Post by: dragonx on June 01, 2010, 05:32:33 am
suburb, unusually large?

:fogetshrug:
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Post by: Ryan on June 01, 2010, 05:33:25 pm
mkk...noo..
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Post by: Evangel on June 01, 2010, 10:30:39 pm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/08/090816-cocaine-money.html

Has anyone else heard the superstition that it's bad luck to inhale cocaine through anything less than a $20 bill?
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 01, 2010, 11:08:50 pm
that sounds like some dumb shit a cokehead would make up
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 01, 2010, 11:12:34 pm
using money is dumb because that shit's dirty as hell, get civilized and use a small glass/metal straw or a little snuff bullet
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Post by: Evangel on June 01, 2010, 11:37:57 pm
I always thought is was a somewhat symbolic act.
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 02, 2010, 01:22:27 am
I always thought is was a somewhat symbolic act.
Symbolic or not, cash is probably the dirtiest shit you regularly come into contact with and you shouldn't handle a lot of it without washing your hands afterwards let alone jam a rolled up bill in your nostril.
people who ritualize their drug use need to give it a break because that's just silly.
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Post by: Farren on June 02, 2010, 01:50:15 am
I ritualize mine

right now as we speak I am rollin a spliffy to go walking on the beach
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Post by: PTizzle on June 02, 2010, 06:58:46 am
Okay my four day weed adventure was good fun. Had a quarter, finished a game, wrote a bunch of verses, made some connections (gonna be featured on two mixtapes), had some SERIOUS thoughts about LIFE, got hit on at bars a lot and just generally was really happy to chill out. Now I'm broke and have to prepare for exams but that was a nice throwback to the old stoner days.
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Post by: Ragnar on June 04, 2010, 05:11:48 am
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Post by: crone_lover720 on June 04, 2010, 05:15:23 am
i live in a suburb
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Post by: Evangel on June 05, 2010, 03:42:50 am
ACIIEEED

Nothing about that music or video is conducive to an acid trip at all!
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 05, 2010, 08:18:28 am
Nothing about that music or video is conducive to an acid trip at all!
maybe not conducive but it definitely rings with a bit of truth
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Post by: Maximo on June 07, 2010, 06:50:50 am
dolla dolla bills hurr in the states are actually made with antimicrobial properties built into the fibers of the bills. dunno about europe or canada but its like that in the states. i still think coke is dumb as hell though (not dietcoke... i mean cocaine lololol)
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 07, 2010, 07:15:22 am
dolla dolla bills hurr in the states are actually made with antimicrobial properties built into the fibers of the bills. dunno about europe or canada but its like that in the states. i still think coke is dumb as hell though (not dietcoke... i mean cocaine lololol)
Theyre still filthy. I think the ink contains a kind of fungacide but I've read several studies which have reported all kinds of nasty germs like e.coli on bills. It's always a good idea to wash your hands after handling cash and never a good idea to tuff in in your mouth or nostrils
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Post by: Drule on June 07, 2010, 07:24:06 am
Yeah cash is seriously gross. I know a lot of people who work in banks or with cash in general, and they pretty much cannot wear white clothes because the undersides of their sleeves turn black due to all the dirt and disgusting muck.

I wouldn't worry too much about contracting anything from handling money though. :-)
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Post by: Madolah on June 14, 2010, 05:22:21 am
its an experiment but after reading it, ive been using tea varieties as pinch/filler for my joints.  so far, orange pekoe & lemon ginseng make a great combo for a good joint filler! 
hell im smoking a hash paper with just tea in it now, its not bad :)
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Post by: Farren on June 14, 2010, 07:02:56 am
hash paper?

also I had hash for the first time last weekend I think it was and it was incredible
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Post by: Madolah on June 14, 2010, 03:13:39 pm
Jellyroll?   You cover a paper completely (minus gumline) with Hash oil/ resin and then roll up whatever herb your smokin.
It lasts awhile longer than a norm joint, and Gets super resinous at the end of the joint but gets you FUCKKKKED!

Warning:Be Cautious with Jellyrolled Papers as when burning the ember is also smoldering hash so its rediculously hot, and if embers of the cherry fall, or spark off, MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HIT YOUR CLOTHES! The Cherries embers from a jelly roll can burn straight thru your clothes in a matter of seconds! (As demonstrated by me and a pair of shorts last night...)
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Post by: Madolah on June 18, 2010, 02:25:37 pm
Druuugs druggs i love dugggs.
Buddy of mine got hold of a guy with some sheets. testing soon and if there good, I'll be helping my buddy offload a few sheets of Lucy Stickers (a sticker are what most call a hit around here)     

Also funny, my main supply for ganj when awol for a few days, msgs me like 7am Wednesday, got 3 different kinds  1/2lbs each ha!
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Post by: Farren on June 18, 2010, 04:20:08 pm
what the fuck is a sheet?

acid?

how you got all this lingo I never heard of? Oh yeah I forgot, you're from the shire.
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 18, 2010, 06:16:21 pm
On an unrealated note, are the Pizzas at Papa Johns any good? In comparison to Pizza Hut or Dominos for example. They've just opened a branch near me and I have some buy one get one free vouchers...
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Post by: big ass skelly on June 18, 2010, 06:18:05 pm
FINALLY we get back on topic.
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Post by: Ryan on June 18, 2010, 07:26:49 pm
got ahold of some shrooms. by far my fav drug. shrooms are da best!!!!!!!!!!! gonna do them tonight with my GF (guardian force)
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Post by: Sludgelord on June 18, 2010, 07:45:25 pm
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Post by: Ryan on June 18, 2010, 07:47:24 pm
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 18, 2010, 08:02:06 pm
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Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Drule on June 18, 2010, 10:40:50 pm
well i recently got a job as a sewer scrubber. its pretty neat because i get to work my own hours and as long as i get the job done no one minds me lighting up under a sewer drain. i found a pretty neat bed of moss and feces i'm going to try heroin on tomorrow.
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Post by: Madolah on June 18, 2010, 11:28:50 pm
what the fuck is a sheet?

acid?

how you got all this lingo I never heard of? Oh yeah I forgot, you're from the shire.

Yes a sheet, of Acid.   Stickers are what we call acid,  a Sheet is quantity as in 100stickers/sheet.
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 19, 2010, 02:41:50 am
Yes a sheet, of Acid.   Stickers are what we call acid,  a Sheet is quantity as in 100stickers/sheet.
sheet is pretty standard for a sheet of blotter paper. I haven't heard sticker but that seems like a good term for a hit
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Post by: Madolah on June 19, 2010, 04:15:26 am
sheet is pretty standard for a sheet of blotter paper. I haven't heard sticker but that seems like a good term for a hit

Yup you like the cool designs, and then you take em, and "Stick'em" on your tongue !  :fogetlaugh:
But yeah its a great term for them.
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Post by: Maximo on June 20, 2010, 09:58:54 am
On an unrealated note, are the Pizzas at Papa Johns any good? In comparison to Pizza Hut or Dominos for example. They've just opened a branch near me and I have some buy one get one free vouchers...

so good. hit em up and with the free pizza get bbq sauce instead of normal tomato sauce, and as a topping get grilled chicken. every time i think about it my taste buds go wild n out. oooooohhhhhhh man the girl i always get pizza with is out of town i dont know what to do now
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Post by: Vellfire on June 20, 2010, 12:43:47 pm
I prefer Papa Johns to Pizza Hut and Dominos by far but some people hate Papa Johns with a passion.

If you live in Kentucky/Indiana/Ohio/idk there might be some more somewhere then you can get Snappy's though, and that's my favorite place to get pizza.
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Post by: c0nfu53d on June 20, 2010, 06:43:40 pm
@Vellfire - Nope. I live in the UK. Normally I go to Pizza GOGO  'cause its local to me. The bases there are NICE. Gonna give Papas a try next week tho.

@Maximo - Find another girl to get pizza with.


Pizza is perfect "munchie food" for after hitting too much weed. As an added bonus if your high you almost have an excuse for hanging out the window and shouting "pizza dude!" when it's delivered.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 20, 2010, 07:10:59 pm
Also just gonna say foreign Papa Johns could be completely different.  Foreign SKITTLES aren't even the same, much less pizza.

edit: Foreign Cheerios aren't the same either and they're the most basic tasting thing.
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 20, 2010, 09:59:40 pm
I only really like thin crust pizza
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on June 20, 2010, 10:16:06 pm
The only thin crust pizza I had was really bad. I don't mean it tasted bad, but like... everything just slopped off my slices and it was missing that key ingredient: love.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 20, 2010, 10:37:41 pm
pizza express make the best pizzas. if you're ever over here you've gotta get some of that
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Post by: Madolah on June 21, 2010, 02:19:58 pm
fuck off with Pizza, Drugs drugs drugs.   (can we Change the name back please?)

In other news,  Me n the roommate got 2 plants sprouted! on attempt 3 of 2 seeds at a time, from the 70+seeds I mentioned my friend got a few months prior
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Post by: Barack Obama on June 21, 2010, 02:27:25 pm
you can sprout seeds fairly easy by putting them in a folded damp paper towel under under a light. kinda like this (http://www.cannabis-seed-banks.com/Marijuana-seeds-germination.jpg) then you just pop them in expanded peat sprouters for a soil grow or rockwool cubes for a hydroponics setup.
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Post by: Roman on June 21, 2010, 05:59:25 pm
i did acid for the first time a couple days ago.  food never tasted so good

that is all
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Post by: Ryan on June 21, 2010, 06:23:10 pm
really? i can't even eat on acid. like... at all. it was like trying to chew and swallow a mouthful of sand or mud or something
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Post by: Roman on June 21, 2010, 07:05:40 pm
I couldn't eat for the first couple of hours either but eventually I was able to eat some things just for the sake of tasting them.  Strangely enough I had WORLD PEACE Ben & Jerry's ice cream with a little drawing of john lennon on the front and it was the most amazing ice cream I had ever eaten.  I also realized that the secret to life is endless tubs of ice cream!!  I also had some crab rangoon which just appeared somehow and basically after eating anything I would declare it the "best thing I had ever eaten ever" and then realized that I had already said that about something else.  So basically acid makes food taste really awesome.
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Post by: Madolah on June 21, 2010, 07:08:37 pm
Acid tends to give people rubbergut feeling, but its always good to eat some snacks or something so your not empty stomached by the end of it.

Also, i did the paper towel method. its a lil hit or miss.. so i tried what i did when we cracked are first seed a year or so ago.
paper towel, in a tealight candle shell (the little alluminum cup things?) wet n wrap in saran wrap, throw on HDD in cpu case for 2 days and there like 2inches long already. ... drop in soil and they just go from there. 
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on June 21, 2010, 07:45:30 pm
When I was on shrooms we were at a friend's house having a brunch thing and I remember being completely unable to determine if any of the food tasted good or not. It was so bizarre.
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Post by: Roman on June 21, 2010, 09:12:21 pm
huh with SHROOMS I definitely can't eat anything at all.  but a shroom trip is literally food poisoning so that doesn't exactly make me hungry
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Post by: Kaworu on June 21, 2010, 09:19:46 pm
wasted on vodka,tamazepam and some antidepressents whose name i cannot remember.
FUCK YOU CLOWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: gnobakot on June 21, 2010, 09:37:08 pm
i worked at papa john's once but it turned out to be oregano
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Post by: Alec on June 21, 2010, 10:19:52 pm
huh with SHROOMS I definitely can't eat anything at all.  but a shroom trip is literally food poisoning so that doesn't exactly make me hungry
(no it's not)
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Post by: goldenratio on June 21, 2010, 10:31:26 pm
huh with SHROOMS I definitely can't eat anything at all.  but a shroom trip is literally food poisoning so that doesn't exactly make me hungry
a shroom trip is not "literally food poisoning." There are actual drugs in mushrooms that get you high. If you eat a weed brownie, are you getting fucked up because of food poisoning or because you ingested drugs?
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Post by: Ryan on June 21, 2010, 11:40:58 pm
yeah a shroom trip is literally the effects of psilocin and psilocybin on the brain, not food poisoning lol
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Post by: Beasley on June 21, 2010, 11:48:08 pm
outside of a method man concert i was given about 80-100 dollars of compressed cocaine by a total rando who said he found it and does not get down on yayo

WHAT DO I DO. i think i will snort half (never done it) and sell the other half.

also how do i know it's coke fsho i mean RANDOM DUDE i was talking to so im kinda sketched. when i like it my tounge gets numb so that is a good sign i hear
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on June 21, 2010, 11:55:33 pm
it's compressed anthrax

but really I'd never accept anything from a random
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Post by: goldenratio on June 21, 2010, 11:59:58 pm
if it makes listening to disco bearable then it's legit coke
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Post by: Roman on June 22, 2010, 01:22:43 am
ah whatever someone told me it was basically food poisoning and it sounded plausible enough I guess
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on June 22, 2010, 01:36:04 am
Roman, what's your avatar from? I like it.
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Post by: Roman on June 22, 2010, 01:39:20 am
polish eyes wide shut poster.  just look up polish movie posters there are a lot of cool ones
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Post by: Pilla on June 22, 2010, 02:32:42 am
wasted on vodka,tamazepam and some antidepressents whose name i cannot remember.
FUCK YOU CLOWNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch it bucko. If I could absorb all the drugs from every user here, I would, even if it killed me. Too much sadness surrounds me when those I care for fall into such. I judge not, I should keep my sentiments to myself... but reality clouds my mind on such a topic as this.


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Post by: Barack Obama on June 22, 2010, 04:23:37 am
outside of a method man concert i was given about 80-100 dollars of compressed cocaine by a total rando who said he found it and does not get down on yayo

WHAT DO I DO. i think i will snort half (never done it) and sell the other half.

also how do i know it's coke fsho i mean RANDOM DUDE i was talking to so im kinda sketched. when i like it my tounge gets numb so that is a good sign i hear
i would honestly throw it away. it's really not a great idea to put strange powders from random people off the street up your nose.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on June 22, 2010, 06:13:03 am
you a square dietcoke

a real square
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Post by: Madolah on July 01, 2010, 08:38:36 pm
Bag o weed bag o weed! Oh Everythings better with a Bag of weed! On Canada Day!

Happy Cannabada Day! :)​  Rolling in Maple Syrup and Skunkalicious papers all day! :D
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Post by: Reaverbot on July 02, 2010, 04:15:08 am
Destroyed my life with drugs, drugs give you the best times of your life, but I do not recommend them for anyone, I am a different person in ways I cannot explain, many things have happened within the last year alone that should not happen to anyone within 10 years, I am on this website now only out of a brief nostalgic whim, and now I will leave. If you use drugs, do it safely and in moderation, never become addicted, and be careful
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Post by: crone_lover720 on July 02, 2010, 08:46:48 pm
Bag o weed bag o weed! Oh Everythings better with a Bag of weed!
Family Guy, right?
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Post by: Madolah on July 03, 2010, 12:59:16 pm
Family Guy, right?

Yup the 4/20 Episode.  (Actually it was aired on 4/19 as a part of the FOX Animation Domination Last year.)
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Post by: c0nfu53d on July 10, 2010, 09:42:45 pm
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 10, 2010, 10:07:45 pm
i did too much coke the other night and had a pretty mild panic attack when I got back home and tried to sleep.

I'm not going to touch that stuff again for a long ass time
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Post by: Madolah on July 12, 2010, 02:46:54 am
Heh  DietCoke on a Coke Diet.  Nice.


Cravin some Acid, its impossible on this god forsaken rock..  Got some killer bud though :)
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on July 12, 2010, 02:54:58 am
getting 5 tabs of acid in exchange for some 'acquired' aa clothes, hell ya
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Post by: Doktormartini on July 12, 2010, 03:00:14 am
Yo, really dumb question because I don't know shit about this stuff but was just curious.  One of my coworkers is a 'dead head' and into drugs and stuff and he said that pure LSD is the most expensive thing in the world (more expensive than like gold and platinum)...is this true?
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Post by: Evangel on July 12, 2010, 03:26:11 am
I'd say LSD has a higher value by volume than gold, but probably not the most expensive substance there is.
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Post by: Doktormartini on July 12, 2010, 03:32:22 am
Yeah he said that like 1 gram of LSD is like 100,000 bucks or something like that.
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 12, 2010, 03:40:33 am
Heh  DietCoke on a Coke Diet.  Nice.


Cravin some Acid, its impossible on this god forsaken rock..  Got some killer bud though :)
Dietcoke is slang for crack which is slang for freebase cocaine
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 12, 2010, 03:50:34 am
Yeah he said that like 1 gram of LSD is like 100,000 bucks or something like that.
the average hit or tab of LSD blotter is anywhere between 30-100 micrograms. Assuming each hit is 100ug, a gram would make 10,000 awesome hits of acid which would probably fetch street prices of about 5 to 10 dollars each.

I guess he's sorta right if you go all the way down the supply chain, but I really doubt that's what someone would pay for a gram of dry LSD crystals. Usually the unit price for drugs goes way down when you buy in bulk which is why dealing is such a profitable enterprise.
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Post by: Madolah on July 12, 2010, 01:15:58 pm
Indeed.    Sheets of 100 hits of Acid Sell for Around $300-375    Seliing each hit for $5-10 gives you a VERY Large Profit Margin.
Realitivly so, The same thing Applies to the step Prior.   Someone Buys a Vial (or produces a vial) of Liquid LSD for roughly $500-800 a liquid weighted gram...

Like DC said,  Thats a lot of Acid..   `10,000 gits which if done right is like 100 Sheets,    100x$300 = 30,00   Thats at least $28k in your pocket, even if prices where high for liquid stuff, and for all the blotter paper and other materials..   


albeit selling in bulk lowers prices so maybe clear $25k if you sell em at ~$300/sht + Deals on bulks..
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on July 15, 2010, 05:12:22 am
i'm getting 6 tabs of acid. i'm kind of scared though. I'm definitely not ever doing it alone, so it's enough for 3 times with me and another person. If I did it in May and then do it 3 times again in the span of august will i become some schizo? can I just save it for later, how long can i keep it for?
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Post by: Madolah on July 15, 2010, 01:22:36 pm
Acid lasts up for 25+ yrs
Just keep it in a brown bago or something in a tupperware container and put the container in a dark part of your closet..


And no you wont become Schizo ....  6tabs is  1 /12  trips for me :/    and  I've done it like twice in 3 weeks in March n had no efect on me doing too much..

Really you only burn out on this stuff if you do it more than once a week...  and its funny that its one of few drugs that your body automaticly builds a tollerance too, basicly you cant do acid 2 days in a row,  if you come down then your down for at least 72 hours before its even worth Tabbing up again.
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Post by: Ryan on July 15, 2010, 01:23:12 pm
acid is very sensitive to light and heat. keep it in a cool dark place. also don't just do one tab of acid, trust me. you won't really get the 'full' experience from most hits unless you do at least two. one will give you very mild visuals and you'll mentally 'trip' a bit but other than that it's basically just going to keep you awake for a good 10 hours.  
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 15, 2010, 02:48:14 pm
You could go schizo from just one trip. Those sorts of things are very circumstantial; dependent on several factors such as you and your family's mental health history and your current situation in life. If your family history checks out and you feel generally OK about yourself and your life, then you will probably be fine with tripping.

What brings up this concern?
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Post by: Madolah on July 15, 2010, 07:29:10 pm
You could go schizo from just one trip. Those sorts of things are very circumstantial; dependent on several factors such as you and your family's mental health history and your current situation in life. If your family history checks out and you feel generally OK about yourself and your life, then you will probably be fine with tripping.

What brings up this concern?


Its been proven Acid does not Give you Schizophrenia,  It Just Triggers the Schizophranic function in your brain and can snap it in overdrive permenantly, But in Not Schizophenic ailed people, noting was of the sort.  Aside from a few they noted on when a user gains a plecebo like dependancy to the Acid and then Schizo paths tend to form.
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Post by: big ass skelly on July 15, 2010, 10:32:50 pm
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 15, 2010, 10:51:30 pm

Its been proven Acid does not Give you Schizophrenia,  It Just Triggers the Schizophranic function in your brain and can snap it in overdrive permenantly, But in Not Schizophenic ailed people, noting was of the sort.  Aside from a few they noted on when a user gains a plecebo like dependancy to the Acid and then Schizo paths tend to form.
I think you may want to recheck your information, hallucinogens along with emotional trauma are well known triggers of latent schizophrenia in a lot of people who are at risk of developing the condition(mostly folks with a family history). There is no such thing as a "schizophrenia-function" in your brain that can be snapped into "overdrive" permanently, that's complete bullshit and you shouldn't spread dumb shit like that about these kinds of things.

"Schizophrenia can sometimes be triggered by heavy use of hallucinogenic drugs, especially LSD; but it appears that one has to have a genetic predisposition towards developing schizophrenia for this to occur. There is also some evidence suggesting that people suffering from schizophrenia but responding to treatment can have an episode as a result of use of LSD."

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html
http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/hereditygen.htm

Here's some links you may want to look into.
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Post by: Alec on July 15, 2010, 11:27:27 pm
I think that's what he meant he was just putting it in laymen's terms.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on July 16, 2010, 04:54:25 pm
You could go schizo from just one trip. Those sorts of things are very circumstantial; dependent on several factors such as you and your family's mental health history and your current situation in life. If your family history checks out and you feel generally OK about yourself and your life, then you will probably be fine with tripping.

What brings up this concern?

I'm not really concerned too much, I just had an impression in my head that if I did it too much in a short span of time I could be seriously fucking myself up. My other concern was that the last time I did acid i was through the roof high, but I was with a good friend and it all went really well. Just smoking weed makes me a huge embarrassment that none of my friends could figure out why it's so potent on me, which is why i'm a little bit scared of much stronger drugs.

thanks for the tip ryan.
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Post by: Von Woofen on July 16, 2010, 07:58:59 pm
acid is very sensitive to light and heat. keep it in a cool dark place. also don't just do one tab of acid, trust me. you won't really get the 'full' experience from most hits unless you do at least two. one will give you very mild visuals and you'll mentally 'trip' a bit but other than that it's basically just going to keep you awake for a good 10 hours.  

we told my friend to eat two tabs his first time cause that's what all of us did our first time and he bugged out and wouldnt come out of the bathroom for hours and said it was pretty much the worst thing ever. i dont think he's even done a full tab since then. i mean i know thats pretty uncommon but i dont think theres anything wrong with starting out slow.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on July 16, 2010, 10:07:44 pm
starting out slow is a good idea imo
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 16, 2010, 11:43:53 pm
I'm not really concerned too much, I just had an impression in my head that if I did it too much in a short span of time I could be seriously fucking myself up. My other concern was that the last time I did acid i was through the roof high, but I was with a good friend and it all went really well. Just smoking weed makes me a huge embarrassment that none of my friends could figure out why it's so potent on me, which is why i'm a little bit scared of much stronger drugs.
Yeah you're not doing nearly enough to cause problems and the biggest reason I asked was to see if you had a family history of that sort of mental illness because I can't stress enough how folks at risk should avoid hallucinogens, it's simply not worth it.

You'll be fine. Some people are affected a lot more profoundly by hallucinogens than others(weed is included in this category), I'm one of those people and it sounds like you are too. You don't necessarily have to take it too slow; just stick with close friends, try to make sure you've got someone who's cool with being sober or at least not tripping around, don't go wandering into crowded public places, and if you get in too deep just focus on breathing and remind yourself that you'll be normal eventually.
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Post by: Beasley on July 18, 2010, 06:42:53 pm
well, my worst drug related nightmare has come to be, and i am done with them for a long time. spending the majority of the early morning in an emergency room is not my idea of a good time!

except for good ol weed. weed never hurt nobody
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 18, 2010, 07:20:04 pm
well, my worst drug related nightmare has come to be, and i am done with them for a long time. spending the majority of the early morning in an emergency room is not my idea of a good time!

except for good ol weed. weed never hurt nobody
what happened?
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Post by: Beasley on July 18, 2010, 07:28:57 pm
what happened?

i took like a little over two points of molly at this global dance festival thing i worked at. i wouldn't spend money on this thing, but i got into it for free. deadmau5 was headlining.
the show was honestly a blast. ravers are a weird bunch, but a lot of them are just nice kids who have taken too much ecstasy, so the show was a good time.

afterwords we went to my buddies house. we were just chillin.... next thing i know i'm in an ambulance. i had a seizure. i feel terrible for the kids i was with, they must have been freakin out.

i had a couple of these things when i was really little, like the 2nd grade, and i knew there was a risk certain drugs could induce another attack. it never happened before the other night.

so its like WELP im lucky to be alive after that i am quitting druges for a while.
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Post by: Beasley on July 18, 2010, 08:08:00 pm
my body feels like i was in a fight last night and lost, badly.

i can hardly walk.
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Post by: Alec on July 18, 2010, 08:28:25 pm
That sounds familiar. I know a guy who had 3 friends end up in the hospital after some molly he sold them. 2 for appendicitis and 1 for seizures. He didn't have any problems, which he contributes to not having mixed with anything, but he's still given up on ex.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on July 19, 2010, 05:28:12 am
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Yeah you're not doing nearly enough to cause problems and the biggest reason I asked was to see if you had a family history of that sort of mental illness because I can't stress enough how folks at risk should avoid hallucinogens, it's simply not worth it.

You'll be fine. Some people are affected a lot more profoundly by hallucinogens than others(weed is included in this category), I'm one of those people and it sounds like you are too. You don't necessarily have to take it too slow; just stick with close friends, try to make sure you've got someone who's cool with being sober or at least not tripping around, don't go wandering into crowded public places, and if you get in too deep just focus on breathing and remind yourself that you'll be normal eventually.

This is good advice, I too wouldn't worry about it too much.  I am no novice of psychoactives but weed still scares the shit out of me!  Don't let this deter you from other (harder) drugs.  There are a lot of really interesting chemicals out there...

Went to another massive rave sober last night.  It was honestly a lot more pleasant then being one of the typical e-tard ravers rolling in the corner.  I met a lot of really cool and interesting people and danced my ass off (and actually recall what occurred!).  It was very enjoyable!

Has anyone here tried 2C-D?  It is available from one of the RC vendors that I use and I was wondering if it is worth the expensive price?  I realize that this is one of those things that is incredibly subjective but I want real world examples from people I know.  It is probably the most expensive cost per use RC next to 2C-C... :(

edit: Seriously, anyone who has purchased "molly" always claims it is pure based on the price.  It is probably the same crap that is being pressed into pills... meth, piperzines, amphetamine, various RC chemicals... but it is ALWAYS PURE.  Steer clear of that crap.  Unless you have a way of verifying what you are buying, you never know what you get.  Buy a testing kit if you are going to use this stuff.  They are cheap and very effective. :/

http://www.eztest.com/shop/
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 19, 2010, 06:26:05 pm
This is good advice, I too wouldn't worry about it too much.  I am no novice of psychoactives but weed still scares the shit out of me!  Don't let this deter you from other (harder) drugs.  There are a lot of really interesting chemicals out there...

Went to another massive rave sober last night.  It was honestly a lot more pleasant then being one of the typical e-tard ravers rolling in the corner.  I met a lot of really cool and interesting people and danced my ass off (and actually recall what occurred!).  It was very enjoyable!

Has anyone here tried 2C-D?  It is available from one of the RC vendors that I use and I was wondering if it is worth the expensive price?  I realize that this is one of those things that is incredibly subjective but I want real world examples from people I know.  It is probably the most expensive cost per use RC next to 2C-C... :(

edit: Seriously, anyone who has purchased "molly" always claims it is pure based on the price.  It is probably the same crap that is being pressed into pills... meth, piperzines, amphetamine, various RC chemicals... but it is ALWAYS PURE.  Steer clear of that crap.  Unless you have a way of verifying what you are buying, you never know what you get.  Buy a testing kit if you are going to use this stuff.  They are cheap and very effective. :/

http://www.eztest.com/shop/

If you're talking about the same RC vendor that I use, I don't think 100 bucks for a gram of 2C-D is worth it. I've never tried it before but it doesn't sound particularly remarkable. here's what shulgin had to say about it (http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal023.shtml) and apparently he had to approach a dose of about 100mgs for a psychedelic experience. It sounds like some kind of empathogen that's almost MDMA-like, except that's a pretty expensive and exotic way to roll.

It's usually pretty easy to spot real molly, it looks like this (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/255014145_a1f3c288bf.jpg?v=0) or this (http://files.shroomery.org/files/08-39/221516365-IMG_0715.jpg) because any MDMA being trafficked that's not pressed into pills is in the form of pretty large opaque crystals that range from white to an almost reddish-orange. If someone is pushing some white powder packed into a gel cap as "molly" then I would bet that it's either bogus or some mixture of filler-stimulants and MDMA like you said.
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Post by: Barack Obama on July 19, 2010, 06:35:14 pm
i took like a little over two points of molly at this global dance festival thing i worked at. i wouldn't spend money on this thing, but i got into it for free. deadmau5 was headlining.
the show was honestly a blast. ravers are a weird bunch, but a lot of them are just nice kids who have taken too much ecstasy, so the show was a good time.

afterwords we went to my buddies house. we were just chillin.... next thing i know i'm in an ambulance. i had a seizure. i feel terrible for the kids i was with, they must have been freakin out.

i had a couple of these things when i was really little, like the 2nd grade, and i knew there was a risk certain drugs could induce another attack. it never happened before the other night.

so its like WELP im lucky to be alive after that i am quitting druges for a while.
damn that's a shitty evening. well I'm glad you're alright and it seems like putting the brakes on drug use is probably the best plan.
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Post by: Maximo on July 29, 2010, 12:36:40 pm
beasley where do you live? global was in colorado last week and deadmau5 was here im not into raves though so i didnt go. apparently deadmau5 got butt hurt about another dj smoking weed and told security on him when they were here. my friends that went told me about it they were pretty pissed lol
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Post by: Reaverbot on August 01, 2010, 09:52:39 pm
Hello,

I'm going to be on probation starting this week for marijuana posession. I have done research and have the answers to the following questions, but I am still in need of confirmation.

Does probation drug testing use urine tests?

Does probation drug testing test for spice (K2, synthetic weed incense sold in tattoo shops)?

Does probation schedule you for a meeting once a month, twice a month, and how soon in advance do you know the date and time?

I will most likely receive 6 months and 40 hours community service, how likely is it for any of that to be cut down? Say to 3 months and 20 hours?
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 01, 2010, 10:24:36 pm
how about you just stop doing drugs while on probation
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Post by: Madolah on August 01, 2010, 11:53:00 pm
Oh How I LOVE being Cannibian, err Canadian!  :)

Gettin DEADLY deals on Qs 1/2 O and Os now.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 02, 2010, 12:26:28 am
Hello,

I'm going to be on probation starting this week for marijuana posession. I have done research and have the answers to the following questions, but I am still in need of confirmation.

Does probation drug testing use urine tests?

Does probation drug testing test for spice (K2, synthetic weed incense sold in tattoo shops)?

Does probation schedule you for a meeting once a month, twice a month, and how soon in advance do you know the date and time?

I will most likely receive 6 months and 40 hours community service, how likely is it for any of that to be cut down? Say to 3 months and 20 hours?
Yes, you will have to take urine tests.

I doubt that standard urinalysis will catch spice(jwh-018), and it's not illegal. However, the US Army has banned its use recently and can test for it so it's likely some labs the government uses for things like this will have it show up on the urinalysis. You probably don't want your probation officer to know that you're still getting high regardless of the drug's legality because it'll just give them more of a reason to check up on you more often.

Probably once a month in your case. It's all at the discretion of the P.O., if he/she feels that you need to be checked up on and tested more frequently then you'll get to go see him/her quite a bit and sometimes on short notice.

That's all up to the court, a good word from your probation officer will probably be the best thing in your favor so be good and don't use drugs when you're on probation for possessing drugs!
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Post by: Evangel on August 02, 2010, 03:06:28 am
Hello,

I'm going to be on probation starting this week for marijuana posession. I have done research and have the answers to the following questions, but I am still in need of confirmation.

Does probation drug testing use urine tests?

Does probation drug testing test for spice (K2, synthetic weed incense sold in tattoo shops)?

Does probation schedule you for a meeting once a month, twice a month, and how soon in advance do you know the date and time?

I will most likely receive 6 months and 40 hours community service, how likely is it for any of that to be cut down? Say to 3 months and 20 hours?

I'm not sure where you're from, but for small-time first offenses, pre-trial diversion is an option.  6 months is cut down to 3 months, and if successfully completed, the charge is wiped from your record.  This might not apply to drug charges, though.  You typically check in on the first week of the month, at which point you'll find out if you're providing for a urinalysis or not for that day.

Spice is definitely safe for now.  Also, don't find yourself in a smoke-filled room catching secondhand marijuana the day before a urinalysis, because your results can end up marginal at best.

Anyway, avoid weed like the plague because it's definitely not worth it to come back positive on a test.  Your hassle of probation can become something much bigger in that situation.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 02, 2010, 11:15:40 am
i never understood this

if you have a certain window where you are gonna be tested for drugs, why would you do weed anyway?  if you can't hold off on weed for a while, then you have a problem, mister, is weed REALLY worth the shit you're gonna get if you fuck up a drug test?  i hear all the time about people doing this and i honestly cannot think anything but "you are the biggest goddamn idiot", stop trying to circumvent it and just BEHAVE
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Post by: Reaverbot on August 02, 2010, 10:35:49 pm
Thanks everyone!
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Post by: Evangel on August 03, 2010, 02:57:34 am
It sucks that the most harmless of drugas just happens to be the one that is retained in your system for up to a month or more at a time.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 04, 2010, 08:22:08 am
been smoking Kimchi (http://www.wix.com/irishchink/ilovekimchi) a lot lately. it's legal, since it's marketed as an "herbal incense" that is "not for human consumption". but uh, it gets you really high! crazy fake pot.
also real pot! Sour Diesel and Thai Kush. good stuff :D
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Post by: Madolah on August 04, 2010, 11:03:23 am
been smoking Kimchi (http://www.wix.com/irishchink/ilovekimchi) a lot lately. it's legal, since it's marketed as an "herbal incense" that is "not for human consumption". but uh, it gets you really high! crazy fake pot.
also real pot! Sour Diesel and Thai Kush. good stuff :D

Arnt you still like 14?  Internet folks dont age! :fogetshrug:
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 04, 2010, 11:08:13 am
been smoking Kimchi (http://www.wix.com/irishchink/ilovekimchi) a lot lately. it's legal, since it's marketed as an "herbal incense" that is "not for human consumption". but uh, it gets you really high! crazy fake pot.
also real pot! Sour Diesel and Thai Kush. good stuff :D
lol "kimchi". It's probably like 'Spice' which is your ol' "legal buds" that used to be advertised except it's sprayed down with a compound called 'JWH-018' which is a synthetic cannabinoid that acts on the same receptor as THC. Who the hell knows how dangerous that stuff could be, you should be careful with these kinds of "research chemicals".

How is that stuff? I've heard of people straight up smoking the powder and having serious panic attacks, even a couple folks I know who sell weed have put it in a solution and dropping it on buds to increase potency when they have to push "unsightly" product that's all compacted and likely come in from across the canadian border in bulk.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 04, 2010, 11:41:45 am
yeah DietCoke, i read about the synthetic chemical and all that. i do wish there was more research on it so i could understand its effects... but my experience so far has been nothing but positive. i haven't known anyone who just had the JWH-018 powder or spray or anything like that; i've only had it through smoking it. and the only place i've obtained it is through buying it at legal places. the sell it at gas stations around here and they hardly ever even ask for ID. after all, it's quite new around here. they just recently started putting it behind the counter in a couple places. it's popular among teenagers/those still living with their parents, because it says "herbal incense" right on the front of it and it doesn't look/smell too suspicious. oh, and it's 11 dollars for a package of it, which i guess is a decent price.

it's definitely pretty potent. it's one of those "couch-locking" drugs for a lot of people, where you just go into your own world and enjoy the sensations. personally, it gives me a lot of energy. i think i'm unusual because weed (well, cannabinoids in general i guess) makes me feel energetic. i become motivated and productive, but especially so with Kimchi. i just start writing or drawing and i can't stop. this is good! it's both a body high and a head high... but it doesn't make me "feel stupid" as much as other things i've had xP it's very... interesting. lots of visual effects, mixed-up perception and senses, and increased videogaming skills, heck yeah 8^D it's all been good for me and i've had it a lot recently so i'd recommend it. but obviously it's good to know more about it.
but yeah i don't know why it's called "kimchi", when i first heard of it i was like "what? korean food?" xD it's got some other names too, K2, spice, black magic smoke, fake pot... whatevs~
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 04, 2010, 12:01:42 pm
I dunno, when I first heard of the stuff it was through friends who are kind of on the cutting edge of all this sort of "research chemical" shit that get these weird compounds online from labs in places like thailand or india, JWH018 was one of them and it didn't really interest me since I don't really smoke much weed but over the last couple years it's really been showing up everywhere in these herbal blends at gas stations, head shops, and tattoo parlors.

I really don't know what to make of it and apparently neither does anyone else, I guess a lot of states are just reacted with kneejerk legislation criminalizing it, but nobody is really researching these "research chemicals" in any way beyond using them to get high. It all seems a little spooky to me even though it's likely to be harmless.
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Post by: Maximo on August 05, 2010, 07:17:53 am
i never understood this

if you have a certain window where you are gonna be tested for drugs, why would you do weed anyway?  if you can't hold off on weed for a while, then you have a problem, mister, is weed REALLY worth the shit you're gonna get if you fuck up a drug test?  i hear all the time about people doing this and i honestly cannot think anything but "you are the biggest goddamn idiot", stop trying to circumvent it and just BEHAVE

THIS. dude its so stupid i had to pee in a plastic bag for my old high school buddy today. the kids been on probation 4 years, been to jail 5 or 6 times, has an ankle alcohol monitor, and still smokes even though he'll be off probation in jan/feb if he's good. stupid stupid though this is like the 4th time ive peed for this guy since his second to most recest jail visit (he got out in like september or october 2009, then went back in again in march until may or june of this year)

and i have another friend on probation whos really into pep spice (thats what the most common herbal blend is in colorado) but upon his research of JWH018, he actually discovered that a man had access to the liquid or powder form of the pure drug and used too much of it, and his organs failed. im not sure if you could get too much of it when you smoke spice though. but i remember when he told me that i drove him to this herbal shop and we bought all of the ingredients in spice besides JWH018 like lavender and a bunch of random herbs. we got a mortar and pestle too hahaha that was a fun time. totally didnt do anything though :/ straight lavender can give you a feeling if you smoke it though according to this girl who used up like half our lavender doing it lol.

i dont get it guys just smoke weed or dont smoke weed theres no need to be a human lab rat for these chemicals
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Post by: Vellfire on August 05, 2010, 11:48:38 am
THIS. dude its so stupid i had to pee in a plastic bag for my old high school buddy today. the kids been on probation 4 years, been to jail 5 or 6 times, has an ankle alcohol monitor, and still smokes even though he'll be off probation in jan/feb if he's good. stupid stupid though this is like the 4th time ive peed for this guy since his second to most recest jail visit (he got out in like september or october 2009, then went back in again in march until may or june of this year)

holy fuck what is wrong with YOU then?  stop enabling your friend no wonder he keeps coming back to you it's because you keep giving him get out of jail free cards.  this is so stupid aaaaaaa QUIT THIS
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Post by: Farren on August 05, 2010, 12:10:10 pm
I have bee3n smoking spice for about a year now and I think I can safely say it has no obvious adverse health defects except maybe I 'm a mutant I dunno
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Post by: Maximo on August 05, 2010, 08:57:56 pm
well he knows how i feel about it and i cant always be there to help him you know? but i wouldnt be able to tell him "sorry but you're gonna need to learn your lesson in prison.... again" idk i cant do him dirty like that. hopefully he tries to stay clean

farren hahaha
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Post by: Vellfire on August 05, 2010, 09:02:57 pm
well he knows how i feel about it and i cant always be there to help him you know? but i wouldnt be able to tell him "sorry but you're gonna need to learn your lesson in prison.... again" idk i cant do him dirty like that. hopefully he tries to stay clean

you're not doing your friend any favors, especially since this has happened FOUR TIMES.  he's using you dude, i don't think i could stand it knowing my friend was doing this to me.  even once i could understand but god four times i would not be able to be friends with this person.
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Post by: bort on August 05, 2010, 10:31:29 pm
you're not doing your friend any favors, especially since this has happened FOUR TIMES.  he's using you dude, i don't think i could stand it knowing my friend was doing this to me.  even once i could understand but god four times i would not be able to be friends with this person.
????

what's so bad about peeing in a cup for your friend?

you wouldn't believe the places i've peed. a cup? no problem.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 05, 2010, 10:34:05 pm
hmmm maybe if your friend has gone to jail 5 or 6 times he should sort his shit out instead of constantly getting a free pass idk!
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Post by: bort on August 05, 2010, 10:37:39 pm
are you saying he should have reverence for THE LAW or something and cut it out?

his behavior is stupid and risky, but (assuming i was clean) i would give my piss to anyone who wanted it.

are you very familiar with the probation process?
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Post by: Hundley on August 05, 2010, 11:23:13 pm
kinda intrigued by this spice stuff. got bored of dxm and all my drug connections dried up long ago. might give it a shot and see if it does anything for me. might not. never been much of a weed fiend
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 06, 2010, 01:02:13 am
hmmm maybe if your friend has gone to jail 5 or 6 times he should sort his shit out instead of constantly getting a free pass idk!
:welp: he's a grown ass man and should probably deal with his drug habits but the threat of incarceration and the conditions in jail aren't something that anyone should have to deal with. Drug laws are completely broken, i'm totally down for peeing in a cup to keep someone out of jail
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Post by: Vellfire on August 06, 2010, 01:18:13 am
i just think that after 4 or w/e times your bud is taking advantage of you, it'd be different if it was a one time thing
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Post by: Maximo on August 06, 2010, 01:55:39 am
yeah i mean granted i want him to stop. that would be ideal. we're not close friends or anything but if he went to jail i would have it on my own conscience that he went to jail for weed in his PEE. and i could have prevented his misery. like shit how degrading are drug laws making you pee into a cup for years as an adult wtf. he has to learn to grow up and be responsible, but there is none of that going on in our criminal justice system. worst case scenario is he gets drug tested at a place where they watch him pee (courthouse) and he gets caught if he smoked.

the fact being that im pretty much the only consistently sober person he knows is also really sad imho.

also hundley you can read about it on wiki. its interesting stuff kind of but you build a tolerance to it a lot faster than weed. and most of the reports on it show that people dont get munchies on it. it doesnt really give you a body high either. i tried it once and it made me feel similar to what its like smoking ok weed without the body high feeling. and it lasted under an hour. but a single bowl lasts a while cause it burns reeeeeally slow
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Post by: Reaverbot on August 06, 2010, 06:09:27 am
Good news! The court lowered my possession charge to Class C. I won't be on probation, and it will be expunged from my record in two years so even the police can't see it. The only thing I have to do is pay $900 to the court, $1500 to my lawyer, and I've already paid $1500 in additional charges. Bail, towing, lots of things.

My experience with spice is always a good one. The high is different than weed, and I think that I like it better. I become really fucking intelligent on it. I come to conclusions and decisions that stick with me when the high ends.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 07, 2010, 04:28:56 am
did kimchi/spice again. coming down now~
hyep, still good
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 07, 2010, 10:51:11 am
i just think that after 4 or w/e times your bud is taking advantage of you, it'd be different if it was a one time thing
yeah i get what you're saying, regardless of anyone's feelings about pot, the law, or whatever it's a pretty horrible display of bad decision making and lack of self-control
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Post by: Vellfire on August 07, 2010, 12:34:11 pm
yeah i get what you're saying, regardless of anyone's feelings about pot, the law, or whatever it's a pretty horrible display of bad decision making and lack of self-control

Yeah that's what I meant, I really don't give a shit about the drugs or drug laws or w/e I just think it's a shitty behavior as a friend to make your friend who really DOES NOT WANT TO do this do it for you, then turn around and make them do it three more times.  I would have a hard time being friends with someone who did this to me.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on August 09, 2010, 07:52:42 pm
spice is both a body and head high simultaneously and it makes you really fucking sleepy no munchies and you can get it in diff flavors and colors

the stuff I got now is blue and looks like fish food

also you can get it in stronger and weaker brands I got this stuff called K2 which is pretty tight. They are making it illegal in a few states but its also gotten ridiculously cheaper too so...
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Post by: Kaworu on August 09, 2010, 11:49:50 pm
past few days i've been rolling jeffries with like anti depressanta and over-counter painkillers and shit, and it's really good. it tastes like a real bad chem burn but the high is great and you get giddy and horny and shit. obv effects are hightened with alcohol.
reading up on it though, it's kinda a mixed bag, some say it's untested, some say it's cool (has been compared to smoking crack, which is cool as i really wanna try that), others say it's life-threatening, specially with alcohol increasing the risk of toxicity and sereotinin syndrome(which is seriously not pleasent, like fucking hell trust me).
I'm kinda gunna lay off using the perscription drugs in them and move onto over-counter tranqs and shit and see which combination works the best (apparently sonnex is good when combined with an up and a downer)

also i have a pet project. a cocktail of meds and alcohol, curently contains varying amounts of:
citalopram, parecetemol, asprin, cathine, ibuprofen, rose', white wine (three types), gin, vodka, rum, lager and some cola added with pills to help em fizz and dissolve. whenever i get a different drink or pill, i add to it. It tastes like fucking white spirits with sugar added, but a single shot is pretty relaxing when it starts effect.
shame i have no more zopiclone and temazepam as even though they have no effect on me, i think they'd help make it a pretty sweet cocktail.
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Post by: Madolah on August 10, 2010, 01:04:31 am
pretty sweet overdose is more like it.
Watch your shit Kaworu.

2 weeks away from possibly obtaining some acid!!! :)​  man i hope it goes through!
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 10, 2010, 01:49:15 am
past few days i've been rolling jeffries with like anti depressanta and over-counter painkillers and shit, and it's really good. it tastes like a real bad chem burn but the high is great and you get giddy and horny and shit. obv effects are hightened with alcohol.
reading up on it though, it's kinda a mixed bag, some say it's untested, some say it's cool (has been compared to smoking crack, which is cool as i really wanna try that), others say it's life-threatening, specially with alcohol increasing the risk of toxicity and sereotinin syndrome(which is seriously not pleasent, like fucking hell trust me).
I'm kinda gunna lay off using the perscription drugs in them and move onto over-counter tranqs and shit and see which combination works the best (apparently sonnex is good when combined with an up and a downer)

also i have a pet project. a cocktail of meds and alcohol, curently contains varying amounts of:
citalopram, parecetemol, asprin, cathine, ibuprofen, rose', white wine (three types), gin, vodka, rum, lager and some cola added with pills to help em fizz and dissolve. whenever i get a different drink or pill, i add to it. It tastes like fucking white spirits with sugar added, but a single shot is pretty relaxing when it starts effect.
shame i have no more zopiclone and temazepam as even though they have no effect on me, i think they'd help make it a pretty sweet cocktail.
Jesus man, you're pumping a lot of weird chemicals into your brain bud. Why even fuck with that weird psychiatric mind control shit anyway? Is getting high really worth whatever unknown side effects or long term/permanent damage that can come from abusing that garbage? Not to sound like a prude or anything, I love getting drunk and blowing coke up my nose as much as the next asshole, but you could really turn yourself into a vegetable with that crap!
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Post by: Farren on August 10, 2010, 02:21:55 am
he isn't trolling is he?

is,.,.,,,is this a jone????
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 10, 2010, 02:30:34 am
:( i hope he's trollin' because that's pretty self-destructive behavior
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Post by: Madolah on August 10, 2010, 04:10:46 pm
He did it a little while back I do recall, We almost lost him at one point, he had like 3 book length posts of smutted gibberish cause he was that fucked up, then went awol for about a week makin a few members a little scared.
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Post by: Beasley on August 10, 2010, 05:22:23 pm
past few days i've been rolling jeffries with like anti depressanta and over-counter painkillers and shit, and it's really good. it tastes like a real bad chem burn but the high is great and you get giddy and horny and shit. obv effects are hightened with alcohol.
reading up on it though, it's kinda a mixed bag, some say it's untested, some say it's cool (has been compared to smoking crack, which is cool as i really wanna try that), others say it's life-threatening, specially with alcohol increasing the risk of toxicity and sereotinin syndrome(which is seriously not pleasent, like fucking hell trust me).
I'm kinda gunna lay off using the perscription drugs in them and move onto over-counter tranqs and shit and see which combination works the best (apparently sonnex is good when combined with an up and a downer)

also i have a pet project. a cocktail of meds and alcohol, curently contains varying amounts of:
citalopram, parecetemol, asprin, cathine, ibuprofen, rose', white wine (three types), gin, vodka, rum, lager and some cola added with pills to help em fizz and dissolve. whenever i get a different drink or pill, i add to it. It tastes like fucking white spirits with sugar added, but a single shot is pretty relaxing when it starts effect.
shame i have no more zopiclone and temazepam as even though they have no effect on me, i think they'd help make it a pretty sweet cocktail.

do you do these crazy combinations with people or are you just in kaworu's world of pharmie fun(apartment)?

either way you should prolly stop.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: dragonx on August 13, 2010, 10:33:01 am
i vote we change this topics title "to the bagel topic"
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Madolah on August 13, 2010, 11:39:35 am
I vote we dont, and change it to Like The Hippie Garden or something?
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Kaworu on August 13, 2010, 08:39:10 pm
i make em in my room (really cool, the alcohol+MEDS  coctil has started to xrystalise so i can add that to the joints) and smoke them outside when housemate is at work. she knows ni do them though. its ok though she is constantly stopping m,efrom seeking smack so she knows im fucked.
but i smoke them when she's at work, when people ccome round we smoke weed thoiugh. unfortunately she knows and hates my crazy+druggy friend so it makes things tricky
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Maximo on August 13, 2010, 08:59:21 pm
yeahhhh.. Beasley and DietCoke are right man that doesnt sound healthy at all why would you smoke meds? all those medications seriously mess with your brain really badly i dont think you should use them. but hey dont take my advice im a guy named maximo on a video game message board. do what you want just think before you smoke pills sonnnn
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Post by: Vellfire on August 14, 2010, 12:20:08 am
i make em in my room (really cool, the alcohol+MEDS  coctil has started to xrystalise so i can add that to the joints) and smoke them outside when housemate is at work. she knows ni do them though. its ok though she is constantly stopping m,efrom seeking smack so she knows im fucked.
but i smoke them when she's at work, when people ccome round we smoke weed thoiugh. unfortunately she knows and hates my crazy+druggy friend so it makes things tricky

jesus kaworu jesus man
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on August 14, 2010, 12:28:36 am
This topic stops being fun and informative when people like kaworu and buttkiller post :(
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: crone_lover720 on August 14, 2010, 01:44:31 am
yeah, like most of you are toddlers eating worms and boogers at the McKenzie's house just off the cul-de-sac but buttkiller and kaworu are seriously in trouble and probably looking for a way out. all I can say is GOOD LUCK MAN and wheres buttkiller
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 14, 2010, 01:47:38 am
no offense to anyone I called a toddler you're all still cool dudes.
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Post by: Alec on August 14, 2010, 01:53:54 am
Nah it was a good analogy. A++ analogies.

Buttkiller was last active today, so I guess he just doesn't have anything to post.
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Post by: theprivatelifeofme on August 14, 2010, 03:31:44 am
I do drugs drugs, man. We do drugs. Did I mention drugs?  For real. Drugs.
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 14, 2010, 04:08:40 am
I do drugs drugs, man. We do drugs. Did I mention drugs?  For real. Drugs.
welcome to papa johns you piece of skeleton shit.
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Post by: Farren on August 14, 2010, 10:37:39 am
kaworu is a motherfucking idiot and if that stupid piece of shit can fall in love with gi joe and some faggy anime alien thing it would not surprise me if he effectively killed himself with a bunch of stupid bullshit.

have fun with your goddamn teeth falling out and pawning off all the toys you spent so much time coveting over so you can keep buying the rock after you get hooked on it you fucking moron.

are you talking about RUBBING ALCOHOL??

man what the fuck

why the fuck would you even tell anyone that you wanted to smoke crack let alone brag about it on here ITS NOT A FUN THING TO DO DUMBASS


Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: Farren on August 14, 2010, 10:42:45 am
I know its kind of hypocritical for me to say something but even I know you don't do shit like that and if you got ex cokeheads telling you not to do shit like that then maybe you should either stop being a complete fucktard or go away and burnout someplace where we don't have to watch you set yourself up for an overdose or destroy whatever little bit you got left in your head.
Title: Who else works at Papa John's?
Post by: dragonx on August 14, 2010, 12:22:25 pm
i miss the old kaworu
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Post by: Madolah on August 14, 2010, 01:07:56 pm
i miss the old kaworu
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 15, 2010, 06:18:39 am
i miss the old kaworu
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Post by: Parker on August 15, 2010, 09:07:53 am
Kaworu be careful, man.
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on August 15, 2010, 10:10:00 am
jesus christ Coxwain fuck off!! he dropped the transformers hobby ages ago, what does that have to do with doing drugs!? besides it's a pretty harmless hobby so

i understand the anxiety of reading his despair but ahhaha do you think REINFORCING the false image of him being a bad person (welp guess.. guess i'm a fool tiger can't change it's stripes...) would do (anybody!!) any good. that's not true at all and i would like you to apologize for that shit!

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Post by: Vellfire on August 15, 2010, 12:08:24 pm
yeah man you really do need to apologize for that because you basically just said YOU ARE A HUGE FAILURE WHY DON'T YOU JUST GET OUT OF HERE AND GO DIE ALREADY???

jesus christ man yeah this is gonna make the depressed dude who is getting way dangerous with drugs feel much better thanks!!!! definitely helping him!!!
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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 15, 2010, 04:02:37 pm
yeah coxswain just kinda hates and calls people stupid when stuff like this happens. I don't think he's trying to get kaworu to realize anything I think he really believes stupidity is what's making kaworu do stuff.
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Post by: Evangel on August 15, 2010, 07:11:45 pm
i think cox is right on the money.  don't apologize.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 15, 2010, 09:08:18 pm
i think cox is right on the money.  don't apologize.

yeah he really doesn't need to apologize for telling a guy whose depression is leading him to mix dangerous drugs that he's a useless sack of shit.  i don't see why he'd ever need to apologize for this.


also he's not right on the money anyone who has remotely talked to kaworu in the last few years even knows that he's done with transformers and w/e (though now i wish that he was still collectin' toys instead of collectin' drugs because something awful is going to happen to him at this rate and it's gonna happen sooner rather than later D: )
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Post by: Mateui on August 15, 2010, 09:44:14 pm
Kaworu's posts are like a primer on the downward spiral of addiction, and it really worries me. :(

I sincerely hope you seek some professional help before it's too late man. There's a way out of the hole, trust me. I don't know much about the circumstances leading up to your drug habits, but I can tell you it's not going to end up going well for you if you don't realize how much harm you're doing to your body in the immediate and in the long run, and then get the motivation to turn things around. That's the first place to start - if you're not motivated to change than nothing can help you. I wish you luck kaworu.


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Post by: crone_lover720 on August 15, 2010, 11:25:29 pm
i think cox is right on the money.  don't apologize.
that kaworu is actually doing this because he's a stupid idiot piece of shit, or that the best solution to his problems is to try and get him to bootstrap up and stop feeling sorry for himself

both are pretty bad. coxswain's post sounds like the former, coming from some sort of blockheaded frustration (NO you can't do that thats not how the game goes)
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Post by: Evangel on August 16, 2010, 03:42:06 am
i think some tough criticism is definitely not out of line.  i know this is just a forum, but if you're not willing to say more than "aw kaworu that's crazy you shouldn't do that", you might as well just let him go. 
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Post by: dragonx on August 16, 2010, 03:56:43 am
i think some tough criticism is definitely not out of line.  i know this is just a forum, but if you're not willing to say more than "aw kaworu that's crazy you shouldn't do that", you might as well just let him go. 

i know its just a forum but normally in real life if someone is going through a tough time i dont insult them
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Post by: Kaworu on August 16, 2010, 06:37:06 am
thanks for the support of some of yous guys. But seriously my messing with shit is the least of my problems, and is more a symptom than anything else. I'm a type-1 manic (also a bit schitzo, but i've been told they're sometimes hard to tell a part) and am often in like no control of my actions, with a very slim chance of me being 'fixed' so to speak :)

I ain't a fucking addic or anything, just it's nice to fuck yourself up with shit, at least then you know you're not going to have the energy to try hang yourself or something. And it kinda chills you more than just taken the meds normally, so i also get a longer period of feeling in control of myself. So yeah, i appreciate support, but it's really nowhere near simple as just stopping, and given why i do this stuff, some of you may think the end result of stopping is actually worse than like what i do now. (if you're a bit slow, i'm referring to suicide)

anyways enough of this intervention, there's still some of the old kaworu left, i watch bad anime for an hour every morning. it's like childrens tv, the bright colours wake you up. Zoids fuzors at the moment. And if you think the crazyness is a new development, ive had it since before i joined gw, hence those times when i've said or done stuff really fucking stupid and random. it's just a little bit worse these days :fogetbackflip: :fogetbackflip: :fogetbackflip:
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Post by: dragonx on August 16, 2010, 07:07:43 am
zoids fuzors? man what dont tell me they are making spinoffs of zoids i liked zoids
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Post by: Farren on August 16, 2010, 10:18:48 am
No when I say kaworu is fucking stupid I mean he is making terrible decisions with his life and well being and is endangering himself by doing exactly what causes a drug overdose. I don't care if I sound like I'm being a dick but apparently he does not think he is doing anything wrong and is not asking for advice and is bragging about what can/will potentially kill him. I don't care dude I'm going to say something. Being all like " Oh kaworu :(​" is fucking infantile and will not help him and I can't shake him and tell him to quit because I'm not there so I'm going to call him out and try to make him think about it because anything else would be ignored.

I am not going to talk to this guy like he's a poor sick guy hurting himself I'm going to act like this is a fairly intelligent person from what I understand and despite any disabilities he might have right now from reading his posts he seems like he should def know better than to do this to himself so yeah I'm gonna call him out on it sorry.

and I'm sorry if I was mean but this shit pisses me off! if he's going to do something like that to himself and then post about it on here, the whole while people are telling him that it is very dangerous to do that shit and he might possibly overdose on it. And instead of even acknowledging that anyone is saying anything about it he comes back and then repeatedly posts about how he's doing it more and more and is getting worse and worse.


Thats stupid! I don't want to read about how you're happily killing yourself. Obviously you don't want to talk about it and you just want everyone to know and feel like shit because you're doing it and that is childish.

thats like leaving someone a voice message on their phone: "yeah mom I'm gonna cut myself again today. I'm using a six inch serrated knife this time! Gonna leave zigzags in my arm, a big long "Z". Bye! Later!"

and then turning yours off.

I'm not an answering machine dude and I don't wanna hear about how you're killing yourself! I mean if you're going to do it I can't stop you but I hope someone does but I def don't want to hear you bragging about it when I can't do anything about it except yell at you!

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and am often in like no control of my actions

bullshit dude you might not have good judgment right now and your mind might not be in the best state but you are not unconsciously scoffing down pills. you can damn well stop that shit or go find help if you want to and giving up on yourself is the worst thing you can do to yourself right now.




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Post by: jamie on August 16, 2010, 10:38:31 am
i don't know anything about kaworu, but for me, it actually helps when people i care about or respect get angry or fed up with me cos it wakes me up a bit. i remember one time when a member here said he was done with all my bullshit, actually a few did, and i think i got alot better after that cos i just stopped splurging bullshit for a while and thought about things. it made me happier and i think it improved me a bit, too.
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Post by: Alec on August 16, 2010, 10:54:47 am
and some people have to cross the arrest line before they get their shit together.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 16, 2010, 11:24:06 am
i don't know anything about kaworu, but for me, it actually helps when people i care about or respect get angry or fed up with me cos it wakes me up a bit.

yeah i get this but unless we know that kaworu is one of those people it seemed KINDA DANGEROUS to just assume he is and start shoutin at him, which i think is why most of us weren't really saying anything too rough at him.  it's not out of NOT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING it's just you don't wanna approach this wrong!!!
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Post by: jamie on August 16, 2010, 12:30:58 pm
i agree, it's never been that anyone didn't want to do anything, it just isn't something you play around with too wild, which is what you know. i'm undecided as to what addicts need though - a rough scream in the face or gentle handling? i think it might be both, followed by a sustained period of existence in a very disinfected environment, but you just can't get that for free, and alot of people don't want it. all i know is an occasional scream in the face improves my life. you need to want it, all my problems start from the moment when i didn't want it and then later on realised that i did.
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Post by: Kaworu on August 16, 2010, 02:34:03 pm
he's right in that i shoudnt post about this stuff i guess. I get my housemate in my face about it enough, which makes me guilty, then sad, then i do shit more. I seriously know the risks, but for my situation it's the best course unless the shrinks can fix my head, i'm  gunna continue with it basically. But yeah I'll try my best not to post this shit here then, to like not disturb you guys.

@dragonx yeah zoids fuzors came out like shortly after new century zero, and it's pretymuch in the same vein as that, with a liger zero as the main zoid and everything. they combine in this (hence the name fuzors)
there's also zoids genesis, which is a more fantasy one,it feels more trad fantasy anime though, but it's allright. there's also some new model kits comming out by kotobukiya (spellinmg??) which're insanely awesome/expensive
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 16, 2010, 07:59:16 pm
he's right in that i shoudnt post about this stuff i guess. I get my housemate in my face about it enough, which makes me guilty, then sad, then i do shit more. I seriously know the risks, but for my situation it's the best course unless the shrinks can fix my head, i'm  gunna continue with it basically. But yeah I'll try my best not to post this shit here then, to like not disturb you guys.

@dragonx yeah zoids fuzors came out like shortly after new century zero, and it's pretymuch in the same vein as that, with a liger zero as the main zoid and everything. they combine in this (hence the name fuzors)
there's also zoids genesis, which is a more fantasy one,it feels more trad fantasy anime though, but it's allright. there's also some new model kits comming out by kotobukiya (spellinmg??) which're insanely awesome/expensive
i don't wanna sound like I'm guilt-trippin' or calling you an addict or whatever, I'm just a little shocked. Do what makes you happy and all, but just be careful and maybe step away from abusing the prescriptions because blasting away at your lungs and brain with psychiatric meds just seems like the worst thing ever. You don't want to damage that thing up in your head, it's you! Despite how bad things may be for you now, you don't want to extinguish all hope for better days by blowing a fuse up there.
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Post by: Parker on August 17, 2010, 12:35:50 am
Man, just be careful. No, wait. Be LOGICAL. There's lifelong consequences here.
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Post by: datamanc3r on August 17, 2010, 03:17:14 am
Just curious...what's up with the thread name change? Is it slang or something?

also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k
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Post by: How We Became Fire on August 17, 2010, 10:16:04 am
I believe that it is an insinuation that all of the people in this thread who actively take drugs will inevitably work at Papa John's.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on August 17, 2010, 05:04:10 pm
I believe that it is an insinuation that all of the people in this thread who actively take drugs will inevitably work at Papa John's.

I wouldn't put it like that.

The way I see it, all the title really implies is that the decision of working at Papa Johns would be a choice that is naturally inclined for the lifestyle of people who also actively take drugs. From my personal experience, the two practices are rather compatible in theory (in fact, the concept probably could go both ways even), but that doesn't mean I intend to work for Papa Johns any time soon.

Whether or not anyone actually does is all up to them. There will always be variables involved, it's just that the choice they end up making doesn't change the fact that it still would be more likely to be advantageous for them if they indeed went with Papa Johns.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on August 17, 2010, 06:53:22 pm
I was being a bit sarcastic and negative with my post, I feel what you are saying.  I take drugs with some frequency and have held a good job through my rougher spots of addiction.  Some people can balance the lifestyle pretty well.  With that being said though, I do feel that my choices have held me back to some extent...
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Post by: Kaworu on August 17, 2010, 07:21:14 pm
stoners end up with deadend jobs as a generalisation. let's all be analytical for no reason bout a topic title
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Post by: Evangel on August 18, 2010, 12:43:02 am
reading your posts, kaworu, you remind me of a few people i knew back home.  i'm not going to tell you how to live your life, but i know people that have lived that way for years and nothing good ever came of it.  i knew both those with mild mental issues, and those with more obvious ones, that were drawn to the abuse of drugs (both prescribed and illicit) because of their condition.  i can tell you that from what i've seen, it's been nothing but worse for them:  panic attacks, hospital visits, and permanent changes in their psyche.  i don't fully understand your condition or your fare, but you could come out from a trip one day with your mind shattered.  all i can recommend is that you find more productive ways to pass your time.
i'm the last person to denounce the occasional recreational psychoactive, but when it becomes a means to escape your daily condition, that's not a good way to live.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 18, 2010, 09:18:08 am
reading your posts, kaworu, you remind me of a few people i knew back home.  i'm not going to tell you how to live your life, but i know people that have lived that way for years and nothing good ever came of it.  i knew both those with mild mental issues, and those with more obvious ones, that were drawn to the abuse of drugs (both prescribed and illicit) because of their condition.  i can tell you that from what i've seen, it's been nothing but worse for them:  panic attacks, hospital visits, and permanent changes in their psyche.  i don't fully understand your condition or your fare, but you could come out from a trip one day with your mind shattered.  all i can recommend is that you find more productive ways to pass your time.
i'm the last person to denounce the occasional recreational psychoactive, but when it becomes a means to escape your daily condition, that's not a good way to live.

amen to that, brotha
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Post by: Farren on August 18, 2010, 01:10:25 pm
yeah I know the same people he's talking about most likely and kids die around here every year from overdoses on the exact same shit you're playing with, stuffs not a joke.
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Post by: big ass skelly on August 18, 2010, 01:15:56 pm
I've been farting all day can one of you pharmacists prescribe me something
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Post by: Farren on August 18, 2010, 01:35:39 pm
how about pulling the cock out of your ass, I think that might help

and some tums
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Post by: Mateui on August 19, 2010, 03:57:08 am
I've been farting all day can one of you pharmacists prescribe me something
Take some simethicone (goes by a variety of brand names like GasX, Flatulex, etc.)

And I know you were trolling but...  :welp: I can't help it.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 19, 2010, 09:25:27 am
Been eating vailum every few days. I got a bunch from an online pharmacy and this drug is really my jam because it helps with everything.

I've got some anxiety issues and 10mg of valium helps with just about everything from a job interview to seeing family or friends who I havent met in a while. The stuff really puts me at ease, especially after a beer or two.
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Post by: Reaverbot on August 19, 2010, 06:27:27 pm
How did you get it from an online pharmacy? I might look into that.
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Post by: How We Became Fire on August 19, 2010, 07:06:35 pm
I suffer from generalized anxiety and my doctor has been trying to set me up with prescriptions for benzo type drugs.  I've keep pulling a massive sidestep as I am deathly afraid of benzo addiction!

I recently tried candyflipping at a large festival in nw Oregon.  I had no inhibitions.  I was a free soul.  I felt like god must feel ;P

The trip lasted waaaay too long for my taste though.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 19, 2010, 08:15:08 pm
How did you get it from an online pharmacy? I might look into that.
I'm not gonna post anything here. But you can find them if you look, it's not hard. The selection is usually pretty limited to medication that's not likely to be abused because anyone attempting to ship narcotics like OC over the border is going to get popped pretty quickly if they're operating out in the open.

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I suffer from generalized anxiety and my doctor has been trying to set me up with prescriptions for benzo type drugs.  I've keep pulling a massive sidestep as I am deathly afraid of benzo addiction!
yeah the whole tolerance buildup can make it easy to overdo that stuff and the withdrawal is the worst. With Diazepam I usually just stop taking it for a week or two if I don't notice anything with ~15mg this generally keeps my tolerance pretty low and I don't really have to deal with the withdrawal.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 19, 2010, 09:15:57 pm
i was on Paxil (Paroxetine) for years for generalized anxiety, and it helped a lot. SSRIs are relatively safe for treatment. i'd recommend starting anxiety treatment with a low dose of Paxil or Zoloft (if you have depression also), especially if you are wary of benzo drugs. they have a lot of effects other than anxiety-reduction, and they don't work in the long term at all. if you want quick anxiety relief, there's also xanax instead, as long as you are responsible and don't get addicted to it ;O
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Post by: Kaworu on August 19, 2010, 09:38:31 pm
I've gotten fucked on both SSRIs and Tamazepam(a benzo) and also both together. If you're trying to keep your head, then I'd be wary of both of them. even when taking it during periods without mixing with other drugs, citalopram made my mania far worse and my physical health deteriorated under it, which is why i got taken off of it (and the withdrawal is excrutiating. i was taken off it last weekend and seriously i have been a total wreck. constant sweating, nausea and shit, but my sweat still smells like the pills and such.. it's aparently common in young peoples according to the internets.

(to clarify, even following the prescripted dosages messed me up. so like the citalopram made me worse, so i'd take more thinking maybe lots of antidepressants will work more than one...)
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 19, 2010, 09:47:14 pm
i was on Paxil (Paroxetine) for years for generalized anxiety, and it helped a lot. SSRIs are relatively safe for treatment. i'd recommend starting anxiety treatment with a low dose of Paxil or Zoloft (if you have depression also), especially if you are wary of benzo drugs. they have a lot of effects other than anxiety-reduction, and they don't work in the long term at all. if you want quick anxiety relief, there's also xanax instead, as long as you are responsible and don't get addicted to it ;O
I don't mess with SSRIs or anything I have to take on a daily basis. I had a very bad experience with Paxil when I was younger, that shit makes me psychotic.

valium works because it's just one of those things I can eat once or twice a week when I need it instead of having to be constantly medicated.
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Post by: mkkmypet on August 19, 2010, 11:02:50 pm
yeah, obviously the same medications don't work for everyone. and some people just have naturally bad reactions to certain things. but i think that taking it's important to take appropriate dosages as prescribed, not that i'm saying anyone here didn't do so. a lot of people that have bad experiences with medications were not taking their meds at the right time of day, or they skipped sometimes, or drank alcohol, or changed their own dosage, or did other things that could have caused the unpleasant side effects or withdrawal.
i've known a lot of people who complain about psychiatric medication, but the only reason it doesn't work for them is because they don't take it the way they're supposed to. my ex was really bad about medications-- he would take them for a few days, then complain that he feels worse and stop taking them, and then start again but with a lower dosage, and then jack it up high for a few days, then stop... eventually i talked to him about it and sorta policed him about taking his medication, and sure enough they started working well. so, i'm just saying that in my experience, people can complain about medications being bad or ineffective, but the problem is actually them. that's why it's important to keep up with a psychiatrist. too many people get prescriptions and never go back to see the psych! :o
dietcoke it sounds like you've got a good thing goin with meds. that's sort of how i am with xanax these days; i take it when i wake up from nightmares or when i'm especially anxious or stressed or whatever. for me right now, it's working better than the daily stuff i was on for a long time. kaworu i hope you can get your whole drug situation figured out soon because i think you would benefit from a stable, psychiatrist-prescribed daily medication. good luck (´_ゝ`)
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Post by: Kaworu on August 20, 2010, 12:22:21 am
they're going to be getting me off of them fullstop as they don't think it will help me. I'm going to be exclusively psychotherapy for a while after im off this current course.
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Post by: Doktormartini on September 07, 2010, 06:30:21 am
Here this is interesting:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100906202905.htm
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Post by: Farren on September 07, 2010, 10:24:34 am
thats been known dawg
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Post by: Barack Obama on September 07, 2010, 10:25:36 pm
Here this is interesting:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/09/100906202905.htm
they finally published it, huh? I remember MAPS had been conducting those studies for a while now with terminally ill cancer patients. Man I wonder how much and how often people were given psilocybin in order for them to stop being stressed out/anxious about dying. That's a heavy psychological burden to bear and I couldn't imagine having a bad trip with that monkey on my back.


"oh man I'm dying! wait no i'm cool, it's just the shrooms, everything will be fine once it wears off.... oh god no it won't, i'm gonna die!" :fogetcry:
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on October 12, 2010, 03:36:54 am
im high lol
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Post by: Ryan on October 12, 2010, 04:16:49 pm
shrooms are starting to pin, whoo.
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Post by: Mince Wobley on October 12, 2010, 05:11:36 pm
Post pics, I also want to grow shrooms to make money without doing anything productive
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Post by: Ryan on October 12, 2010, 05:24:21 pm
:woop:
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Post by: Mince Wobley on October 12, 2010, 06:24:15 pm
I'm serious. I don't want to work.
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Post by: datamanc3r on October 13, 2010, 06:36:55 am
Prop 19 ftw.
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Post by: Ryan on October 15, 2010, 01:51:36 am
so i took a couple aborts from my cakes and ate them with the lemon tek thing. its pretty rad, im getting slight visuals and feelgoods from like....maybe one gram WET of shrooms
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Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2010, 03:41:48 pm
shrooms are starting to pin, whoo.

SWIMMING IN FUNGIIIIIII  :fogetnaughty:
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 28, 2010, 09:00:52 am
SWIMMING IN FUNGIIIIIII  :fogetnaughty:
eat them all and think only of me
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Post by: Ryan on October 28, 2010, 01:14:59 pm
split roughly a 2.5g lemon shot with my girlfriend last night. i dunno if this is placebo or not but my own homegrown shrooms really feel more potent to me personally than ones ive bought. goin to the jon stewart rally saturday and gonna eat some more then  :woop:
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on October 28, 2010, 07:02:22 pm
architecture school = everyoneget hiigh errday
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on October 30, 2010, 05:25:43 am
2000th post and im hiuiiiigh
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Post by: Beasley on October 30, 2010, 07:55:26 pm
i did coke last night didnt think it was that great just felt like i was bout to have heart attack
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Post by: Mateui on October 30, 2010, 08:51:55 pm
I think everyone in this topic needs to watch the film Requiem for a Dream...
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Post by: Alec on October 30, 2010, 08:53:54 pm
That movie's pretty unrealistic.
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Post by: Mateui on October 30, 2010, 09:33:38 pm
I know, fridges don't do that in real life.
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Post by: Kaworu on October 30, 2010, 09:45:34 pm
fear and loathign in las vegas is a much better drug movie <3

Lost my stash the other day, i think i accidentally threw it away with the trash lols
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 31, 2010, 12:05:39 am
i did coke last night didnt think it was that great just felt like i was bout to have heart attack
:welp: it depends on the quality really. Good stuff is pretty awesome for a lil bit but yeah the whole panic-attack/heart beating out of your ribcage is the pits.

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I think everyone in this topic needs to watch the film Requiem for a Dream...
its a pretty good movie but i don't think it would change anyone's mind about anything.
"oh look, a bunch of irresponsible drug abusers had bad stuff happen to them... guess I shouldn't do that"
*eats a few grams of mushrooms and has a great time with friends*
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Post by: crone_lover720 on October 31, 2010, 12:31:10 am
don't spaz out on Mateui, it's what his people do.
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Post by: Barack Obama on October 31, 2010, 12:37:10 am
applejacks we eat what we like....
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Post by: Madolah on October 31, 2010, 03:38:10 am
Yo so there is no acid in this island and im weary of mystery shrooms...
You guys have home setups for mushies, whats the deal and how much time,space,money must you sink on it ?
Want some good trippin, and well Cid ain't here to give me that party..
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Post by: Evangel on November 02, 2010, 12:38:07 am
Has anyone used AlchemyLabs' legal high products like Meow or their hallucinogens?
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Post by: Mince Wobley on November 12, 2010, 03:15:44 am
How long do you have to take remeron before the vivid dream side effects show up?
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Post by: Drule on December 03, 2010, 08:22:30 pm
Locked for reasons specified in this topic (http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=81980.0).