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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: GZ on August 05, 2009, 07:39:32 pm
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for a while now there has been a lot of noise about a trademark dispute involving a game called EDGE (http://www.mobigame.net/) for the IPHONE and an upstanding individual named tim langdell who has a game company named "edge games" (http://edgegames.com/) trademarked. before i proceed any further let us meet the one of the greatest men of this era:
(http://pub.gamingw.net/29169/langdell.jpg)
Doctor Tim Langdell, Member of IGDA Board of Directors (http://www.igda.org/board/)
the information regarding the dispute has been fairly scattered, but recently eurogamer and tigsource have compiled some excellent information on him. from the eurogame article on professor langdell regarding this dispute:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-edge-of-reason (this is an excellent article and anyone who cares about producing indie games needs to read this)
if you are extremely lazy i have cut up the article and bolded the most important parts:
Eight months ago David Papazian was on top of the world. His company, Mobigame, had just released its first videogame for the iPhone. In the space of just a few weeks it had won two prestigious awards. The past two years of early mornings, late nights and tireless endeavour were set to pay off; the sacrifices had been worth it, the indie developer dream was coming true.
Today, he sits dejected and worn. Banned in the UK, USA and Germany, his game may be critically acclaimed but, for most, it is also impossible to buy. On 15th July, 2009, just one week after Apple nominated Mobigame's debut title as one of their 'Top 30 Favourite iPhone Games', it was removed from the App Store. Not because it's unfinished, or because it might damage your hardware, nor any of the usual reasons that software is removed from sale. Rather, it's banned because of its name: Edge.
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From Namco's PlayStation release Soul Edge (which had its name changed to Soul Blade for the West) to Sony's PlayStation Edge to the UK's own Edge magazine, Langdell confronted anyone who used his trademark in relation to videogames. In every case the message was clear: change the name of your product, pay us a licence fee or face a court hearing. Some paid the fee quietly. Others, faced with legal threats that they believed were dubious, turned the tables and instead took The Edge to court. No matter what the outcome of these cases, Langdell's energy in protecting his trademark never faltered, even if the trickle of games that bore the name had long since dried up.
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But not everyone shared in the celebration. On 7th April, 2009, five months after its release, Papazian received an email from Apple. It stated: "We have received notice from Edge Games, Inc. ('Edge') that Edge believes your application named Edge infringes Edge's rights. Accordingly, please take steps to review your application to ensure that it does not violate the rights of another party."
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Papazian emailed Langdell directly, hoping to work through the issue amicably. On the 22nd April he wrote: "We chose the name Edge because it reflects the game's style: the cube you navigate through levels is always hanging on the edge. I did not know about your company or your games before. Please believe me that we did not intend to pass our game off as one of yours in any way."
Later that same day, Langdell responded, first assuring Papazian of his support of independent developers, before stating, forcefully, the need for financial resolution. "I am a strong supporter of innovation in games," he wrote. "It is not our intention to do anything other than encourage originality in games and to encourage new game makers. But the problem is that using the trademark 'EDGE' for a game is a direct infringement of our international rights. We have spent a lot of time (and a large amount of money) stopping everyone who tries to use the mark EDGE [for a] game. You wouldn't think of using 'Activision' as the name of a game would you? Even though there has never been a game called Activision. Or 'Electronic Arts' or 'Nintendo'? No, all these names are so closely associated with the name of the company, you would not be permitted to use them for a game without the express permission of the trademark owner... It is the same with EDGE."
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"As to how original...your game is," Langdell wrote. "I have to differ with you. I think it is a nice game, well programmed, but it plays almost the same as many of our early games for which we are famous such as 'BOBBY BEARING'. Whereas in Bobby Bearing you play a ball rather than a cube, much of the game is rolling around looking for switches that move blocks so that you can get to the next section, or looking for objects you must roll over to get points... Indeed, we have been flooded with communications from people who think your game is made by us because we are so famous for our 1980s games which look almost exactly the same as your."
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He offered Papazian two ways out: "One: change the name of your game to something that does not contain the word EDGE in it within the next 7 calendar days. Two: License the right to use the trademark 'EDGE' from us."
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"If you decide to take option 1, then we would need payment for your use of the trademark to the day you change the name. We propose 25 per cent of the revenues you have received from the game to the day you stop using our mark. If you decide to take option 2, then [you would need to add] a subtitle such as "EDGE: An Homage to Bobby Bearing" and to add our company name (EDGE Games Inc) immediately below yours in the opening screen."
(http://pub.gamingw.net/29169/BobbyBearing.gif) (http://pub.gamingw.net/29169/edge.jpg)
if you can spot the difference between bobby bearing and edge i will show you a green dog.
Understandably, Papazian didn't respond immediately. He needed time to weigh these options, to seek legal counsel, to find out whether this nightmare was in fact an immovable reality. 24 hours later, having had no response from Papazian, Langdell piled on the pressure: "We had hoped to see your reply by this time today," he wrote. "Will we be receiving it? Or will we be filing the court actions in the US and UK? Please advise."
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I ask Langdell to name three of The Edge's commercially released games from the past five years. He replies: "Edge has focused on developing mobile games in the past few years, with Bobby Bearing for a wide range of mobile handsets being a consistent good seller in the UK, Europe and America (three new versions of it in 2008, one new version earlier this year and the iPhone 'Remix' version about to be launched)." Other than this 30-year-old re-release, Langdell does not mention a single other commercially available game he has published in the past decade, despite my repeated asking.
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I ask Langdell what would have to change for Mobigames to be able to once again offer the game for sale in the UK and US. "Edge has not retracted the settlement offer it made to Mobigame in early June for it to rename its game to EDGY (or such other new name that Edge and Mobigame can agree does not infringe Edge's trademark rights) and remains hopeful Mobigame will eventually respond to it so that Mobigame's game can once again go on sale."
When I ask Papazian about the proposed name change to EDGY he is quick to point out that this was something he suggested earlier in the year but that, at the time, Langdell flatly refused the offer. He sends me Langdell's email response to Mobigame's offer to change the name of their game to EDGY, sent on the 15th May: "[We] would very strongly oppose your use of EDGY which is clearly just adding the 'y' sound to the end of our famous trademark EDGE," Landgell wrote. "In fact, we won a case against someone who tried to use EDGY so we are confident we would win should you try to do that. You need to stop infringing our trademark EDGE and select an entirely different [original emphasis] name for your game which does not even suggest our trademark."
On the 16th May, the following day The Edge moved to register EDGY as a trademark in America. I press Langdell on the EDGY issue. He writes: "No proposal we have ever made to Mobigame regarding their changing the name of the game to EDGY has involved their paying us a licence [fee], or paying us any money at all."
But, if you had no intention of asking for licence fee to be paid to you for the use of EDGY, I ask, then why trademark the name the day after Mobigames first proposed the name change? "In hindsight it was a misunderstanding, probably in part caused by David Papazian's less than perfect English," he explains. "But at the point we were discussing the EDGY settlement in May we understood Mobigame was in agreement Edge would technically hold the EDGY registration and Mobigame would license it from us for free. This way Edge could use its legal team to protect Mobigame should anyone ever challenge Mobigame's use of EDGY".
This version of events is certainly not born out by the original emails. But besides that, why would The Edge want to protect an unrelated company for no recompense? Out of the goodness of their hearts? That seems unlikely, especially coming from a company run with Langdell's cutthroat business savvy.
the tigsource page:
http://www.tigsource.com/pages/edge-games
(http://pub.gamingw.net/29169/mirrorsedge.jpg)
a great screenshot from tim "the edge" langdell's site. by no means would he ever fabricate a game called "mirrors (by edge)" in an attempt to extort money from the fairly recent PS3 game mirrors edge. this is simply not possible and would never enter the mind of tim langdell (a.k.a. sexy_edge_2k6 on XBL).
going back to the earlier fact he is on the IGDA Board of Directors (http://www.igda.org/board/), we can safely assume the best interests of all independent game developers are taken into account. even though i've never heard of the IGDA until the tim langdell saga against trademark infringement, knowing that "the edgeman" tim langdell is on board assures everyone of the quality of the organization.
as you can see tim langdell is a pioneer in video game development yet no one knows of the depth of his work towards the gaming community. it is my recommendation that he be referred to as "s.c.u.m. of the earth" (super cool upstanding man of the earth) in recognition of his contributions to gamerkind and humanity as a whole.
p.s.
a legal support fund has been set-up for mobigame, the developer of the game edge. you can donate here:
http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/
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I love how so many things on their website aren't associated with them at all other than the license for the word "Edge," including The Edge (a third-party nun chuck controller for the Wii) and the movie The Edge (starring Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin).
It's like they're so proud that they invented the word "edge."
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I feel like im going to find their name if I look up the word Edge in the dictionary.
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Oh man. No. This guy cannot possibly be taken seriously.
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He has imdb
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2035877/
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oh wow he produced a gamer award show in 1994 great job buddy
i think i would rather not be on imdb than be on there with one dumb thing i did in 1994
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just a quick reminder but the guy has been in business for over 30 years. so as ridiculous as this sounds he has managed to make money through trademark bullying this entire time. a lot of people just pay him or agree to his terms so they don't have to go through a lengthy court case, of which he is known to extend trials as long as possible. given the fact that the game "edge", a highly praised and likely solid seller on the app store has been removed (for any amount of time) means the developer is losing money on a daily basis. two hardworking indie developers are being punished because they picked the wrong name. it's really the icing on the cake that this same guy is on a board of directors for an organization that is supposed to help indie developers. cool quote of the day (a game developer being asked why he quit the game industry):
We stopped programming after the disastrous court case with the edge, a software house in london directed by tim “slimy” landell. We converted Solder of Light to C64 from the arcade which was completed in 6 months but according to Tim Landell should have been completed in three months (yeaa right) so they refused to pay us. So we decided to take the Edge to court but Tim Landell left the country for America. With no money we were forced to sell all our equipment to settle outstanding loans from the bank. So we both went esparto ways and concentrated on normal carers.
edge: masters of the game(tm) since 1979
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Wow, what a huge dick. Anyways, I was reading through his Wiki and apparently there is a call to remove him from the IGDA board.
http://kotaku.com/5317360/effort-begun-to-remove-trademark-troll-from-igda-board
http://corvus.zakelro.com/2009/07/its-fun-to-stay-at-the-igda/
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We should make a community game and call it Edge, just to see if anything happens.
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GW has plenty of money to spend on frivolous lawsuits.
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Sounds like an edgey type of guy.(pun intended) But one thing he's not the frist guy to use edge in a title of a game. Like Soulcalibur frist game was called Soul Edge so how in the hell dose this guy have rights to the word Edge.
Anyway EDGE is a word and I see no problem if someone uses the word EDGE in a game as long as it has words before or after I don't see how he will win in a lawsuit.
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This article has me on the edge of my seat. You have a very cutting edge writing style, GZ.
By the way, when is Beyond the Edge coming out?
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how does this effect U2's guitarist: the edge?
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We should make a community game and call it Edge, just to see if anything happens.
Yes.. He probably googles the word everyday looking for mone- Copyright Infringement. So did DICE & EA have to paythis guy off to use the name Mirror's Edge?
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tim langdell should go suck a dong
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no, instead of suing them, he just used Mirrors as a name for his game, as seen in the picture. He knows he probably would not win against EA.
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he looks like the little known 5th member of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour
Edit: the name totally works too
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Wish I could own a word.
You think I could trademark a word like 'Giant' or 'Douche'?
I'd be rich.
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What a dick of colossal proportions. I liked his activision/nintendo/electronic arts example, as if ANY of these names is regularly used in english sentences. Too bad he couldn't name any major/famous developers with names like SWORD or MONKEY or HAMMER or you know, NORMAL NOUNS in English.
blah blah yeah but what a cunt.
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We should make a community game and call it Edge, just to see if anything happens.
TIG had an Edge name contest over this and there was a pretty good flash game to come out of it iirc
edit: here it is: http://www.adamatomic.com/edge/
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Wish I could own a word.
You think I could trademark a word like 'Giant' or 'Douche'?
I'd be rich.
I'd say Giant, they don't make things titled Douche
However, if you owned Douche, you could sue Seth Green for so much
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i am going to trademark the word final and sue so many video game companies (and MORE)
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Yeah, I didn't know you could copyright a noun.
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7. Papazian claims that Mobigame offered to change the name to “EDGY” whereupon Langdell refused the offer and proceeded to register the trademark “EDGY”. Papazian also asserts that Langdell holds the trademarks “MIRROR’S SPORE” and “SOUL SPORE,” suggesting a connection to EA’s games Mirror’s Edge and Spore, and Namco’s Soul Edge.
(Note: Edge Games does indeed own those trademarks. You can look them up yourself here (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4009:gc03le.1.1) [EDGY] and here (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/tm/t-applying/t-before/t-already.htm) [MIRROR’S SPORE AND SOULSPORE].)
hm. neither of those links is valid. does this mean something. is the whole thing a hoax.
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What are the qualifications for becoming a member of the IGDA Board of Directors? What do they even do? Is this guy's primary source of income suing video game people that use the word edge?
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hm. neither of those links is valid. does this mean something. is the whole thing a hoax.
this is because of the way the search engine works on the government website. go here:
http://www.uspto.gov/main/profiles/acadres.htm
click SEARCH TRADEMARKS on the right. then click basic search. then type edgy as the search term. here is a copy & paste of the page:
Word Mark EDGY
Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Computer game software
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 77738682
Filing Date May 16, 2009
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Edge Games Inc CORPORATION CALIFORNIA 530 South Lake Avenue, Ste 171 Pasadena CALIFORNIA 91101
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Abandonment Date August 3, 2009
unknown to me previously, but apparently he abandoned the trademark on the 3rd. in the eurogamer article comments, some users mentioned that landgell registering this trademark would be excellent evidence against him to prove a bad faith registration of a trademark in court. this would help to prove that he has been using his "edge" trademark in bad faith as well. i guess he removed it now.
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What are the qualifications for becoming a member of the IGDA Board of Directors? What do they even do? Is this guy's primary source of income suing video game people that use the word edge?
i have no clear idea what the IGDA does. they have a mission statement on their site:
http://www.igda.org/about/
and their press release page:
http://www.igda.org/newsroom/press_index.php
i can't make too much sense of it myself.
also this guy has latched onto pretty much everything with edge in it. i imagine he's made quite a bit of money with this trademark especially given he claims to have produced something like 170 games (using this edge trademark garbage). given the fact he is a board member on the IGDA you would have to assume he must get some kind of wage from that. here is a cached job posting for an executive member of the board of directors:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:YR6dTO32u-sJ:www.gamebizblog.com/gamebizblog/executive-director-igda-us.html
The Executive Director is a full-time, exempt position. The IGDA is offering a competitive salary and benefits package.
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i didnt know w*shmoo was a british guy
edit: ahahahahah i just got the mirrors THE EDGE screenshot. what a piece of shit
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also this guy has latched onto pretty much everything with edge in it. i imagine he's made quite a bit of money with this trademark especially given he claims to have produced something like 170 games (using this edge trademark garbage).
I don't even know about this! If the guy goes to court as frequently as the article implies, he must have some pretty heavy bills. I'm trying to figure out how to make constant court battles a reasonable financial decision in my head but it's not working out.
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this has got to be fake. I mean the name Bobby Bearing is such a terrible name, nobody in the world would call their game that.
and his xbl name...? come on
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I don't even know about this! If the guy goes to court as frequently as the article implies, he must have some pretty heavy bills. I'm trying to figure out how to make constant court battles a reasonable financial decision in my head but it's not working out.
Most people would just settle out of court, likely.
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wow. I hope they get him removed, that's just horrible, feel really bad for the indie game devs.
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can I still buy edge. I don't have an iphone.
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unknown to me previously, but apparently he abandoned the trademark on the 3rd. in the eurogamer article comments, some users mentioned that landgell registering this trademark would be excellent evidence against him to prove a bad faith registration of a trademark in court. this would help to prove that he has been using his "edge" trademark in bad faith as well. i guess he removed it now.
Can his attempt to trademark EDGY be used in the same way?
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what about pizza hut's the edge pizza? You wouldn't think of using 'Activision' as the name of a pizza would you? Even though there has never been a pizza called Activision. Or 'Electronic Arts Pizza' or 'Nintendo Pizza'?
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Probably because Pizza Hut is a huge corporation that has the funds to take them head on in court, while indie game developers are generally lacking the funds and are pretty much forced to give in to his demands.
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no, it is because the trademark only applies to video game industry things. thus edgy veggies. thus the edge non-metal gaskets for sealing sheet metal ducts and connectors. mirror's edge got a pass because he and ea go back but really, who knows? maybe they paid up too
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***trademark***
btw trademarks are terrible in general.
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Yeah he is a disgusting guy, I read about him in the eurogamers article a few days ago. He claims that he's made 170 games or whatever but the majority of them are ports, so it's actually something closer to 70 games, none of which were originally published within the last 10 years.
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Yeah he is a disgusting guy, I read about him in the eurogamers article a few days ago. He claims that he's made 170 games or whatever but the majority of them are ports, so it's actually something closer to 70 games, none of which were originally published within the last 10 years.
Sounds like the G&D forum. /aside
on topic:
wot a douche!
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yeah they were saying that he (naturally) only goes after people he can take. that's why mirror's edge got over. but this fucking guy is annoying as hell and not only is he an idiot, but tom buscaglia (the game lawyer) was defending him on the igda site which just makes me sad because i liked him for his columns on navigating legal stuff like IP and licensing, among other things
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wow, every guy I've ever seen who looks like that is a slimy douchebag.
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wow, every guy I've ever seen who looks like that is a slimy douchebag.
He almost looks like Will Wright so what are you saying?
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He almost looks like Will Wright so what are you saying?
I mean that beard combined with that hair. Will Wright doesn't have that beard.
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what if will wright grow a beard.....
then whagt....
:fogetshifty:
!!!BONUS UPDATE!!!
i'm not really sure if anything has progressed for mobigame but it's been revealed by a writer for TEENAGE WASTELAND that langdell has nothing to do with the show. apparently they approached him early on at some point but then declined his services after looking into his credentials. the IGDA is setting up a task force to handle this whole thing (and a related matter involving a mass e-mail to all IGDA members to sign a petition to boot langdell off the board) as well but it sounds really bureaucratic:
Dear IGDA Members,
As many of you are aware, the IGDA website was recently exploited to send emails to members. This use of private data occurred in the context of a group's efforts to gain signatures for a petition. The day after the exploit we received the petition with signatures. The method used to gain these signatures has complicated an already complex situation. We have heard from those who feel they were justified in taking such measures, those who are concerned their privacy was violated, and many other perspectives, opinions, and concerns.
The debate over the issues at hand has had a negative impact on the association, and our ability to move forward on member programs and initiatives. Rather than continue a public and internal discourse on the circumstances and validity of the petition, Bob Bates and I have decided that the least damaging approach for the organization is to call a special membership meeting, as the co-Chairs may do as per the by-laws.
Since the IGDA does not yet have a policy for how to hold special membership meetings, at our Aug 5th meeting the Board chartered a Task Force comprised of IGDA Board members Tom Buscaglia and Coray Seifert, and at large members Darius Kazemi, Dustin Clingman and Brian Robbins, with the Executive Director acting in an advisory role to the Taskforce. The Taskforce will evaluate and recommend a policy regarding the methodology and procedures for holding special meetings of the membership of the IGDA, that serves the intent of the by-laws.
Once this course of action is established, it will be possible to fix the other details of the meeting, which needs to occur at least 35 days after the date is announced. We all share the goals of a fair and professional process that can let our organization move beyond this controversy, and I appreciate your patience as we work out the details.
Thank you,
Tobi Saulnier
Co-Chair
IGDA
they are going to hold a meeting to decide how to treat special meetings, then at least 35 days after they will use this newly formed meeting structure to do something. after this they are going to go to FurCon 09 and decide the proper glomp protocols, then enact the glomp protocols 10 weeks later.
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We should hold a meeting to determine how we feel about this.
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Wow, the IGDA could teach GW a thing or two about choosing pips.
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I mean that beard combined with that hair. Will Wright doesn't have that beard.
http://www.qcms.org/images/will_wright_image.jpg
Only differences is the Beard not as long and the Mastash dose not meat with the bread but his hair is almost the same and the shape of the face.
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http://www.qcms.org/images/will_wright_image.jpg
Only differences is the Beard not as long and the Mastash dose not meat with the bread but his hair is almost the same and the shape of the face.
Is that recent? He looks like a fucking alien in that picture.
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That topic and Tim Langdell makes me sick to my throat. Guh...
(http://www.team-captin.com/art/Tim_Anal_Edge.gif)
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http://www.qcms.org/images/will_wright_image.jpg
Only differences is the Beard not as long and the Mastash dose not meat with the bread but his hair is almost the same and the shape of the face.
Nah, that's not one of those asshole beards. He just looks like the awkward father of a daughter who wears too much black.
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protect the kids
(http://pub.gamingw.net/25485/langdell.JPG)
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Kotaku just had another article on this dipshit earlier today. Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5334971/tim-langdell-defends-self-in-open-letter-to-mobigame). He sent out a 13 point list of "facts" to the gaming press. Among some of his assertions were these gems:
• Mobigame proposed Edge give it money to use the mark "Edge"
• Edge has never acted as "trademark trolls"
• Mobigame has lied so as to defame Edge and its CEO Tim Langdell
Also on the Edge site I found the following:
Open Letter To Mobigame:
Dear David,
Now that Apple Inc. has reached its independant conclusion to remove your game bearing the name "Edge" from the US, UK and German iTunes stores due to our registered trademark rights in EDGE and THE EDGE, insofar as there is any dispute left between our two companies we publicly invite you to resolve that dispute solely through the usual channels of the trademark registries or the courts. We condem your decision to sink so low as to attack the CEO of our company, Dr. Tim Langdell, personally, and to attack the IGDA, and ask that you cease this smear campaign based on falsehoods and deliberate misrepresentation of historic events, and cease encouraging others to do the same, before further harm is caused to the IGDA. Please be assured, no matter how much you embarass this company or its CEO in public, we cannot and will not give in to your unreasonable demands that we give up all rights in the trademark EDGE and effectively hand such rights over to you -- which is what you have asked of us at all times since late May and repeated in your most recent letter to us via the London solicitors, Sheridans. Indeed, as you know, we cannot give in to your demands since to do so would put us in breach of several license and other trading agreements we have that compel us to protect the EDGE and THE EDGE trademarks. Your refusal to change the name of your game, even to EDGY which we gave our blessing for you to do over two months ago, and your continued insistance you must be permitted to call the game "Edge" regardless of our more than 25 years of common law rights and well over a decade of current, valid, registered rights, is unreasonable.
The--Edge.com (http://www.the--edge.com/edgegames/mobigame.htm)
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Damn I wish he really did try to go up against EA/DICE for Mirror's Edge. Teach the guy a thing or two and just stop this fucks nonsense. He's like that jay walking cop in Harold & Kumar.
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This makes me quiver with rage!
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EA probably just paid the guy some licensing fees to get him to fuck off. This is what this scum does for a living.
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EA probably just paid the guy some licensing fees to get him to fuck off. This is what this scum does for a living.
I doubt it, seeing as how he isn't displaying the game on his website as if he created it.
And there is no mention of the license on the official Mirror's Edge website like on all the other websites.
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i have never read so many lies before in my life.
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http://kotaku.com/5349642/tim-langdell-resigns-from-igda-board-[updated]
hell yeah
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That is awesome.
Something interesting I read in the comments:
...Long story short, EA's application for the registration of the Mirror's Edge trademark has been refused and the trademark claim is currently suspended pending further action from EA.
http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?SRCH=Y&isSubmitted=true&details=&SELECT=US+Serial+No&TEXT=77222986#
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In his statement, Langdell says he left the board because opposition to his board membership comes from "a contingent ... who in their fanaticism will cause substantial negative press for the IGDA over the next month and place intolerable demands on the board and IGDA staff."
lmao... really now
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I like his 13-point thesis paper on why he is right about everything (tl;dr). This guy is such a child.
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Wish I could own a word.
You think I could trademark a word like 'Giant' or 'Douche'?
I'd be rich.
Only if someone's already taken the words "Turd" and "Sandwich".
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/edge-returns-triumphant-to-app-store
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YESSS
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amazing
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Also in case none of y'all have been keeping up with this, EA is challenging Langdell's "Edge" trademark (http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/hedge-your-bets/)
I was kind of worried for a while that this would end up being another case of NET JUSTICE with a bunch of powerless nerds spitting and swearing and spinning their wheels on the internet without actually being able to accomplish anything. Which it kind of was until EA got involved, but w/e GOOD GUYS WIN.
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this whole thing has been hilarious. especially when they bought mythora from edge :)
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Also in case none of y'all have been keeping up with this, EA is challenging Langdell's "Edge" trademark (http://chaosedge.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/hedge-your-bets/)
I was kind of worried for a while that this would end up being another case of NET JUSTICE with a bunch of powerless nerds spitting and swearing and spinning their wheels on the internet without actually being able to accomplish anything. Which it kind of was until EA got involved, but w/e GOOD GUYS WIN.
Don't get too excited yet. Nothing has actually been confirmed about EA winning against Langdell yet. It wouldn't surprise me either if he held copyrights on other words as well.
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We Fight For Everlasteing Piece.
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gw should hold an EDGE game contest where you enter a game that must have the word EDGE in the title.
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Jim Lungdell Presents: EDGE - The Game - The Movie - The Lawsuit
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You'd think Tim Langdell would be smart enough to lay low for a while but nope!
A lot of indie games have just changed their names. Remember Fez? It’s now Fedge. Tyler Glaiel’s Closure is now named Closure: on the EDGE of reality™. The forthcoming iPhone game Critter Crunch is henceforth referred to as Critter Credge. And the enormously enjoyed Canabalt is now called Canabedge. Although Atomic Edge Games aren’t too pleased about it all. Other new games have been announced including Ted Marten’s Edgeward McEdgington, Secret Exit promises to bring us LEDGE, Steph Thirion’s Eliss declares a sequel, Edgeliss, Tyler Glaiel is back with a new game, Edgeform: On The Edge Of Insanity, and there’s rumours of a new game from Dejobaan, EeeeeEEeeeEEEeeEEEEeEEEEEdge! A Feckless Disregard For Poopieheads. You may have noticed a pattern. This is a solidarity movement amongst the indie development community to stand up to the legal actions of Tim Langdell, who has recently launched another attempt to remove a game from Apple’s iTunes store due to including the word “Edge” in its title.
If you didn’t follow the story of Langdell’s attempt to remove EDGE from iTunes, there is no better place to catch up than Simon Parkin’s astonishing piece for Eurogamer. EDGE is back up, after an intervention by EA, but Langdell is now trying the same with a game called Killer Edge Racing.
The movement above is a response to this, a sort of burst-the-prisons protest, with an increasing number of developers standing up to the legal actions from Langdell. You can follow the list on Touch Arcade.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/11/12/going-over-the-edge-indie-mass-protest/
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wow. man, indie devs rock so hard.
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including Ted Marten’s Edgeward McEdgington
EeeeeEEeeeEEEeeEEEEeEEEEEdge! A Feckless Disregard For Poopieheads
ahahahaha
way to really pull together and break a broomstick off in this guy's ass.
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i like how he claims a bunch of unrelated things that happened to be named EDGE on the EDGE website are listed as having creative associations with langdell
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"david howell evans, the edge", and the 1998 film "the edge" starring antony hopkins, as well as comic book character Edge were all developed in creative association with tim langdell......hmmm
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so does he have creative association with that part of the razor blade that I use to chop up my cocain
if so I'm gonna have to use my fingers again
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last time I did that I got it in the cuts on my finger and my whole right hand when numb
pleese mister langdell i beg of you i still want to be able to hold the straw
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gw should hold an EDGE game contest where you enter a game that must have the word EDGE in the title.
This is a seriously good idea. Let's do this.
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Last time was pandas, why not Edge this time around?
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Hahaha, this is amazing. I'm glad there's something being done about it. Go indie community!
(He also reminded me of this guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Stoller), who claims to hold a trademark on the word "Stealth". Copyright/trademark law can be ridiculous sometimes. Maybe that's why some many kids I knew in high school wanted to be trademark lawyers.)
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man edge is a great game. i downloaded it a while ago and started playing it recently and beat it and damn its good.