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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: pburn on August 27, 2009, 06:39:51 pm
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I applied to a 'novice production assistant' job on my campus, and filled out the application, showed some videos, linked a resume, and I think based on what interaction we've had via e-email, they really want me.
And I have an interview this Monday, my first job interview. I need tips, I need to know what I need to know. Like, I think I am required to wear my UNI's shirt that day, so I might have to show up in that... so help a bro out no shitty joke responses.
I am a slow thinker so I had a lot of time to think on the internet - word choice and all - and to present myself as professional, but I think i may have done made myself seem TOO professional. I am slow to respond and often I don't say what I want to say in real life, especially when put under some sort of pressure.
I know I need to keep eye contact - I'm not very good at this - and there are some obvious questions I need to answer..
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smile, i know this is hard for you but it makes the interviewer feel good.
don't over compensate by answering very quickly, this'll come off as rudeness.
try to avoid saying 'um' and 'er' all the time, this is kinda bad, but it cant always be helped just keep it in mind
there 3 things that are recommended for any formal interaction, but as for exactly what to say i dunno if i can help. give them what they want, i guess. if something is wrong, instead of lying, just put your situation in a way that appears to be unavoidable, like you have no choice. i cant think of an example here but if you know what i mean this could be useful. requires some quick thinking though, so meh.
EDIT: i asked someone
look through your resume and think of examples of things you've accomplished with each thing on there the night before, so if they ask you about anything on there, you have something ready to mind. ~someone who is good at this kind of thing
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That's good advice, I forgot about the 'um' and 'er' thing, that is something I do all the time it's annoying.
Someone at Taco Bell asks, "do you want them regular or supreme" and I always say "um regular".
Comic book store, "do you want a bag?" and i always say "um yes" and sometimes it comes off rude.
I'm a pretty polite laid back guy in a tough situation so I don't think it'll be hard to smile.
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cool yeah as long as you dont get nervous it should be fine. tbh it sounds like you'll be fine.
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shave 'em
shave it all
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Good news my local comic book store says they'll send me my comics through the mail so I don't have to pick them up in person via 30 minute bus ride at uni.
Rejoice.
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I am a slow thinker so I had a lot of time to think on the internet - word choice and all - and to present myself as professional, but I think i may have done made myself seem TOO professional. I am slow to respond and often I don't say what I want to say in real life, especially when put under some sort of pressure.
Unfortunately, the one and only way to get better at this is by doing it. Not even by practicing, because it largely depends on who you talk to.
You need to learn not to be bothered by the fact there's something at stake. It's different from writing a forum post, obviously. Here, text is 90% of the communication. Out there, I'd say the actual words you speak account for very little of their perception of you. You need to have a particular type of attitude--to not really care about anything and simply see this as a casual exchange of thoughts with someone. You think you've got something to offer that will result in mutual benefit; if it turns out they feel differently, then that should be okay too.
Whoever is interviewing you will be conscious of the fact that what you write in a letter and what you say during an interview are completely different, so try not to fool them. That's all you need to know!
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as for exactly what to say i dunno if i can help. give them what they want, i guess. if something is wrong, instead of lying, just put your situation in a way that appears to be unavoidable, like you have no choice.
Nooo never do this. You're not there to make up excuses. (Unless you have ARMED ROBBERY on your resume.) Whatever's wrong is not going to stand in the way of your availability. Just tell them the truth! Interviewers will ABSOLUTELY KNOW if you're trying to lie, and they detest it if you start profusely apologizing for something. You need to let them know that whatever might seem as a negative doesn't really have any impact on who you are as a person and as a prospective employee. If you act calmly and tell them you're aware of their concern, they'll realize that it won't be a big deal.
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If this is from rit directly and they told you they want you then you already got the job psyburn. I am assuming they are just going to go over what they need you to do in your "interview." Did they say how much you are going to get paid? it's probably like 5 dollars an hour LOL
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If this is from rit directly and they told you they want you then you already got the job psyburn. I am assuming they are just going to go over what they need you to do in your "interview." Do you know how much you are going to get paid? its probably like 5 dollars an hour LOL
No they didn't say they want me. It's from the job section of the RIT website, and it's $7.25 an hour. It's also for the deaf department or w/e.
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My suggestion would be to be aggressive. Not like crazy aggressive but make sure that you are introducing yourself, not being asked who you are, basic stuff.
Also be ready for the hand shake. I always leave the interview wishing my handshake was firmer.
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My suggestion would be to be aggressive. Not like crazy aggressive but make sure that you are introducing yourself, not being asked who you are, basic stuff.
Also be ready for the hand shake. I always leave the interview wishing my handshake was firmer.
Yeah, I figured out the hand shake thing a long time ago, except the interviewer I believe is a woman, so I can't really squish her hand, unlike men who make it into a whole contest about who is the dominating figure in the room idk.
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Use a good firm handshake. You can tell allot about the person by the handshake. but keep in mind not to go to hard... and from my experience women interviewers give out wimpy Handshake so go little less then firm (After all your not there to crush her hands.)
Edit:I didn't look at the above post sorry for giving the same info.
I got something else when they ask if you "got any questions" don't say no.(I often see my self doing this. I get stupifed and forget) hear is a question thats normally not covered in the interview.
Is there a possibility of rise?
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I've been in a lot of interviews so let me tell you what I know
1. don't lie, just don't. Say it how it is, if it needs to explained, then do so after stating the fact, not before.
2. don't allow for quite moments, if they aren't saying something and you have nothing to say give them a mirror... as ask them about how they got to their position, do they enjoy it, etc.
3. research what your position would entail, have questions to ask about it.
4. connect on a personal, if they tell you something about themselves and you think it relates to you or share a similar experience, share it, but make it short and quick.
5. Thank them for the opportunity and tell them how you feel about what you heard.
6. Dress for the job.
7. be 15 minutes early, not an HOUR, if you arrive an hour early, don't announce yourself until 10 to 15 minutes of your appointment.
8. Relax and don't take the rejection personally if comes down to it, bitterness won't do you any good.
I've gotten rejected from jobs who referenced me to other jobs because they liked me but for whatever reason I wasn't the best candidate.
9. STRONG body language, open chest, no arms crossed, no slouching, no hands in pockets, no direct eye contact, but don't look down, here is a tip about eye contact.
When they are talking always look at them, when you are talking, look at them when you start to respond, then break eye contact and start using your hands as you talk to express yourself. And make new contact at every new point you make in your response or every other sentence. OR when you finish a thought. (pick whatever is easier for you)
I know people say strong eye contact is good, but that's a myth, looking at the interviewer head on through out the interview is just creepy.
Lastly if you have glasses where them, a study shows that employers view people with glasses more reliable for some weird reason don't ask me why.
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how bout fuck what everyone else says heres you some grade "a" golden advice right here.
1. be youself, don't try to act any different than you are because eventually you're going to have to show yourself sometime. So don't try to act super-professional or whatever if you really aren't that kind of person
2. don't be annoying. if theres something that you usually do that annoys people or you would consider annoying then don't do it in this instance
3. who gives a fuck its just a job. think this and remember it the whole time but also remember that its a job you kind of need for the time being so you want to atleast half-assed give off a good impression.
if you follow this advice (and this is real advice I'm giving you, I follow it to the key and haven't been turned down with an interview not once) you'll be sure to atleast finish the interview and give off a good impression and hopefully get the job.
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If they're really interested in you based on your resume the interview is really just a formality dude. As long as you aren't creepy as fuck or just seem blatantly incompetent for any real responsibility you'll do fine.
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If you concentrate on trying to act a certain way like being too smiley or wordy then you will unwittingly let yourself down. Overthinking things can needlessly complicate your response in conversation and you just gotta seem real and not fake.
Your best bet is to look reasonably presentable and just be yourself.
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when they ask you why you want to work there, don't say "because i don't want to bag groceries". this is not a joke reply.
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don't flash gang signs
don't swear
don't scream
brush your teeth and your tounge and floss really well.
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my last interview pretty much consisted of them hiring me on the spot and then talking about how everyone is obsessed with the cities new soccer team and the games fuck up downtown traffic
i was also on valium so I was cool as a cucumber
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This is a really minor tip, but I never heard it mentioned in the interview classes I took:
Right before you walk into the interview, yawn. Do a really big yawn. It will help you relax your shoulders and release some physical signs of anxiety. Mentally, it will slow things down just a bit for you.
I was taught to do this for theater, right before getting on stage. It really works. Try yawning before doing anything that makes you nervous.
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or take a valium
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when they ask you if YOU have any questions for THEM at the very end, always, always, always have a question.
always do this.
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when they ask you if YOU have any questions for THEM at the very end, always, always, always have a question.
always do this.
yeah ask something like "what's the next step?"
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If you're drunk or high from the start, and get the job, she'll suspect you're just naturally like that and you can go into work like this every day. The problem lies in the fact that you'll HAVE to be drunk/high or she'll expect something is wrong.
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This is a really minor tip, but I never heard it mentioned in the interview classes I took:
Right before you walk into the interview, yawn. Do a really big yawn. It will help you relax your shoulders and release some physical signs of anxiety. Mentally, it will slow things down just a bit for you.
I was taught to do this for theater, right before getting on stage. It really works. Try yawning before doing anything that makes you nervous.
haha it's an ok idea but the problem is you might look sleepy/YAWN ALL THE TIME in the interview. welp i guess this guy... he doesn't really care about this job... :fogetangry:
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or take a valium
do this
also I did what evangel said for my last job but I was delivering pizza and I had to pretty much stay high the entire time or I wanted to die
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haha it's an ok idea but the problem is you might look sleepy/YAWN ALL THE TIME in the interview. welp i guess this guy... he doesn't really care about this job... :fogetangry:
No, you don't yawn in front of the interviewer. You do it before.
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Women interviewers liked to be kissed on lips when you greet them. You must do this or they will think you are insulting their looks.
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be sure to print off a couple of your posts from gw.
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just be real, so you're in the ROC already? lets chill, me you and leaf. To le stripclub
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I think it went well, I didn't follow any of you guys advice consciously.
Will hear back by the end of the month.
Thanks guys.
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don't flash gang signs
don't swear
don't scream
brush your teeth and your tounge and floss really well.
i wouldnt follow that advice either.
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im just feeling privalidged to help you pburn
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iam so glad you listened to me
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Nah coxswain you gave the best advice bro
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do this
also I did what evangel said for my last job but I was delivering pizza and I had to pretty much stay high the entire time or I wanted to die
yeah but i guess it didn't affect your driving
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I don't think you're going to gain much from insignificant pointers like FIRM HANDSHAKE and CONFIDENT GAZE. These people aren't there to screen you as much as they are trying to figure out if you are the right person for the job. Don't lie and don't focus on trying to make yourself out to be their ideal worker. Just make sure that you convey whatever it is you have that they could possibly want and hope that you have more to offer than the other applicants.
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Also keep in mind that if you don't get the job, it doesn't mean YOU MESSED UP. It could just mean that you did perfectly fine but they just went with someone else. Don't beat yourself up about it if it doesn't work out.
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I don't think you're going to gain much from insignificant pointers like FIRM HANDSHAKE and CONFIDENT GAZE. These people aren't there to screen you as much as they are trying to figure out if you are the right person for the job. Don't lie and don't focus on trying to make yourself out to be their ideal worker. Just make sure that you convey whatever it is you have that they could possibly want and hope that you have more to offer than the other applicants.
Not true. People don't make decisions like this purely rationally, calculating the perfect candidate based on cold facts. Stuff like looking sharp but at ease and being polite makes you look trustworthy, efficient, interested in the job and generally more likeable. Just don't over do this or let it look fake, that's the worst.
Every time I try to shake someone's hand and instead get a dead lump of wobbly meat I sincerely feel disgusted. It's one of the worst first impressions you can give.
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Not true. People don't make decisions like this purely rationally, calculating the perfect candidate based on cold facts. Stuff like looking sharp but at ease and being polite makes you look trustworthy, efficient, interested in the job and generally more likeable. Just don't over do this or let it look fake, that's the worst.
Every time I try to shake someone's hand and instead get a dead lump of wobbly meat I sincerely feel disgusted. It's one of the worst first impressions you can give.
This is really true, interviewers don't have very long to figure out who you are so immediate first impressions are very important! If it was all based on pure fact they wouldn't need to interview you in person at all.
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I think he got the job.
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Every time I try to shake someone's hand and instead get a dead lump of wobbly meat I sincerely feel disgusted.
lol you're seriously a faggot if you judge someone so harshly based on something as trivial as a handshake
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I don't consciously judge, it's just very unpleasant and thus a bad first impression.
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Make sure to maintain an erection at all times. It means you're in charge.
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faggot
judge
harshly handshake
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lol you're seriously a faggot if you judge someone so harshly based on something as trivial as a handshake
lol, man this is so funny.
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lol, man this is so funny.
??!?? in what way? i honestly don't know what you mean. DietCoke is funny or what he said is funny? in a YOU TELL EM MAN - way or is it just a funny comment? oh wait now i see. yeah that is funny if you miss the clarification yeah
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It's funny on a lot of levels, he thinks that having a strong first impression doesn't include a firm handshake which falls under communication. I just find it funny to hear a comment like that after all the things I have heard and gone through in my life because it's not true. Body language is just how humans communicate, and that includes a handshake.
Having a poor hand shake will not end your career, but why would anyone pick someone who shows poor self-confidence for a position when you have a hand full candidates with equal or better resumes and show they are confident about the job.
having a poor handshake to me...is like asking someone "hello, how are you" and they say "hi." it's not making me reach out for you at all.
Most communication and judgments about a person are not done by conversation, in fact conversation is usually used to confirm or correct the judgments you have already made about a through body language and behavior.
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It's funny on a lot of levels, he thinks that having a strong first impression doesn't include a firm handshake which falls under communication.
No, what he said was you shouldn't judge someone as harshly as was being suggested by one piece of non-verbal communication. And he's right. You'd be an absolutely terrible interviewer if you held everybody to such an arbitrary standard.
If you had been my interviewer more than three years ago when I first applied for a job at a graphic design studio, I most likely would not have been hired because back then I had very little self-confidence. I hadn't had a serious job before and the company I went to was quite well-known and had high standards. Despite all that, eventually I ended up working on some really nice projects with them. And by working there I learned quite a lot about clients, projects, deadlines, coworkers, talking to people on the phone, planning, designing and programming, and probably loads more that I can't come up with right now. Looking back, it was more important an event to me than anything else. I've since quit working there to be a freelancer.
And to think I could have been rejected based on something so simple as a handshake. I must have been lucky that the owners of the company weren't stupid enough to believe that if you're not good at non-verbal communication you must OBVIOUSLY be a terrible employee.
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they wouldn't sit down and say "well he gave a limp handshake i don't like him" just like they wouldn't say "he had horrible breath" or "his wonky eye was distracting"
giving a bad handshake will give a bad impression!
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A lot of people don't even realize that they're making this judgment though, you can't really fault people for it since it's purely in the back of their mind. They get a poor handshake and it leaves them feeling off about the person, they aren't sitting there thinking UGH...POOR HANDSHAKE. UGH.
Plus, depending on the job, that kind of confidence is absolutely important. You did well in your job, but there are a lot of jobs where not having that confidence off the bat is going to lead to failure.
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i don't know how a good handshake says confidence, i think my nervous handshakes are firmer and also more jittery. i think it shows enthusiasm and excitement though, a weak handshake is kinda like saying 'i can't even be bothered holding your hand'
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No, what he said was you shouldn't judge someone as harshly as was being suggested by one piece of non-verbal communication. And he's right. You'd be an absolutely terrible interviewer if you held everybody to such an arbitrary standard.
If you had been my interviewer more than three years ago when I first applied for a job at a graphic design studio, I most likely would not have been hired because back then I had very little self-confidence. I hadn't had a serious job before and the company I went to was quite well-known and had high standards. Despite all that, eventually I ended up working on some really nice projects with them. And by working there I learned quite a lot about clients, projects, deadlines, coworkers, talking to people on the phone, planning, designing and programming, and probably loads more that I can't come up with right now. Looking back, it was more important an event to me than anything else. I've since quit working there to be a freelancer.
And to think I could have been rejected based on something so simple as a handshake. I must have been lucky that the owners of the company weren't stupid enough to believe that if you're not good at non-verbal communication you must OBVIOUSLY be a terrible employee.
You go on as if I said its the make or break deal. Even when I said it wasn't .... Their are tons of factors that go into that decision, your field, or your work, who else were they looking at, where you live. If your work was amazing or at least better than all the other candidates, then their was no reason to give undeserved value to your subtle body language. This weights heavily on when the employer has a lot of options who are close in skill, he has to start to take into account little things.
No one is saying shy people don't hired, or weak body language is the key to a job. it's just what you can work on for an interview, chances are if you have an interview you already have a resume and work history, what else can you improve for an interview that's coming up in a week? I can't account for all the things that go against my experience and what I learned but I never said it was black and white in the first place.
However to assume that people don't judge people by those factors is ignorant, yes some (whether it's a majority or a minority) people do judge harshly, so why even take the chance? No one is going to turn you down because you had a good handshake, you knew how to dress for the job, you were polite, you had good posture or because you were out going.
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Yeah I don't know about anyone else but if I was interviewing someone for a job then they'd get hired based on having all of the qualifications necessary for the job and not pissing me off during the 5-10 minute interviewing process. Of which I couldn't give a goddamn about anyones life story or how they shake hands or what kind of character they've got as long as I fill the position that needs filling and don't spot douchebag in them right off.
why in the fuck would I care otherwise?
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let me ask you this:
when you do your job (keyword here is job) do you (a) ensure that everything is done to perfection and the upmost standard regardless of how long it takes for you to finish or how much extra effort you've got to spend on it potentially slowing everything else down to a halt or do you (b) do it so that it meets requirements and comes out ok so that you can KEEP DOING YOUR JOB and move to something else that requires attention?
if you answered b then you would not fucking care about someones gloopy face or limp wristed handshake
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You act like it's so black and white.
What would YOU rather have, the guy who's fully qualified that looks you in the eye and gives you a firm handshake or the guy who's fully qualified and doesn't? It's not something that GETS YOU THE JOB, it's just something that may put you just barely ahead of someone else with the same qualifications. Stop acting like it's THE DEALBREAKER, that's completely retarded. It's just a thing that makes a slight difference so why not just DO IT and put yourself ahead?
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This discussion is ridiculous. THE IMPORTANCE OF A FIRM HANDSHAKE IN A JOB INTERVIEW. This is not something that is going to put you ahead of anyone else. The interviewers and Human Resources people of the company you are applying for have most likely been conducting interviews for a long time and all they want to know is whether or not you are the right person for the job. They are not going to pass judgement because of something as retarded as a limp handshake and maybe other overly specific aspects that hints on the applicant being insecure. You are supposed to grow in your role as an employee of their company and being insecure is not going to break the deal.
None of you have any idea what you're talking about and it sounds like you've had just as little experience with this as Psyburn.
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*pulls out credz* hey buddy halo effect
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how many people here have had experience interviewing job applicants????
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This discussion is ridiculous. THE IMPORTANCE OF A FIRM HANDSHAKE IN A JOB INTERVIEW. This is not something that is going to put you ahead of anyone else. The interviewers and Human Resources people of the company you are applying for have most likely been conducting interviews for a long time and all they want to know is whether or not you are the right person for the job. They are not going to pass judgment because of something as retarded as a limp handshake and maybe other overly specific aspects that hints on the applicant being insecure. You are supposed to grow in your role as an employee of their company and being insecure is not going to break the deal.
None of you have any idea what you're talking about and it sounds like you've had just as little experience with this as Psyburn.
Riighhht. Because I disagree with you on this specific subject, means I have no idea what I'm talking about. Besides the countless job interviews I've been to and the internships I've done in human resources, marketing and graphic design...right. I can't quote articles alll day, but I doubt you would read them nor is it that important but I'm not telling you how this should be, I'm telling you how things are. This is just how some employers (again you can argue majority or minority all you want.) do things.
"A huge study at the University of Iowa found that those people who start job interviews with a firm, strong handshake are always perceived in a more favorable light than those who shake hands like a limp fish.
Good handshakers are seen as being more extroverted and, eventually, more hirable. And women with strong handshakes have an advantage over men because their grips are more memorable."
A poor handshake isn't something that takes away from you, it is a missed opportunity for extra points in an interview. It's not that hard to understand. no one said you going to get hired for it, jesus you guys are like republicans pulling out shit people didn't even say.
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"A huge study at the University of Iowa found that those people who start job interviews with a firm, strong handshake are always perceived in a more favorable light than those who shake hands like a limp fish.
Good handshakers are seen as being more extroverted and, eventually, more hirable. And women with strong handshakes have an advantage over men because their grips are more memorable."
I dunno xenophobe.... this seems to be a grey area to me
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This discussion is ridiculous. THE IMPORTANCE OF A FIRM HANDSHAKE IN A JOB INTERVIEW. This is not something that is going to put you ahead of anyone else. The interviewers and Human Resources people of the company you are applying for have most likely been conducting interviews for a long time and all they want to know is whether or not you are the right person for the job. They are not going to pass judgement because of something as retarded as a limp handshake and maybe other overly specific aspects that hints on the applicant being insecure. You are supposed to grow in your role as an employee of their company and being insecure is not going to break the deal.
None of you have any idea what you're talking about and it sounds like you've had just as little experience with this as Psyburn.
Yes every single thing in existence about interviews tells you that a firm handshake and eye contact is important but somehow you're the one that's figured out it's not. You must be the expert on it! Of course they're going with who's qualified, but a lot of people are equally qualified for the same job! Nobody's getting the job purely on handshakes but fuck IT HELPS OKAY? If you think that working hard to make a good first impression isn't going to change anything, you've got to be pretty dumb about this! Why not just go ahead and give the good handshake and give the eye contact and not worry about it? At worst it doesn't help and at best YOU GET THE JOB FOR IT. Having confidence going in DOES make a difference, even if it's not a complete requirement. I don't see how you're arguing that.
edit: xenosoft beat me to some of this but w/e
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Riighhht. Because I disagree with you on this specific subject, means I have no idea what I'm talking about.
No but a lot of people here seem to have zero experience but still like to dictate what's what and yeah they have no idea what they're on about.
"A huge study at the University of Iowa found that those people who start job interviews with a firm, strong handshake are always perceived in a more favorable light than those who shake hands like a limp fish.
Good handshakers are seen as being more extroverted and, eventually, more hirable. And women with strong handshakes have an advantage over men because their grips are more memorable."
Yeah this is a cool excerpt from Donald Trump's blog but you are not working for him and this handshake thing that's been argued about like it's the most important thing in the world for about one page now is not that relevant unless you are applying for a job where confidence and professionalism plays as big of a part as the applicant's qualifications.
There are tons of ways to EARN POINTS yeah but in contrast to the general importance of a handshake in a job interview - especially on GW level - it really should just be a sidenote at most.
People usually don't shake like limp fish anyway!
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People usually don't shake like limp fish anyway!
You'd be surprised.
Also man no I'm pretty sure most of the handshake discussion was just that it wasn't COMPLETELY USELESS like you said to begin with. Nobody's saying it's the be all end all interview advice, stop making it come off like that. We're just saying it's not a DUMB PIECE OF ADVICE.
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You'd be surprised.
Also man no I'm pretty sure most of the handshake discussion was just that it wasn't COMPLETELY USELESS like you said to begin with. Nobody's saying it's the be all end all interview advice, stop making it come off like that. We're just saying it's not a DUMB PIECE OF ADVICE.
I was going to say the same thing and once I hit the preview it was like you read my mind.
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You go on as if I said its the make or break deal. Even when I said it wasn't ....
The premise was "don't judge someone so harshly based on a damn handshake" and you LAUGHED IT OFF. Because a handshake is "part of communication" and communication is everything!!!11
I'm not going to say these things don't matter at all, but unless you're trying to hire a salesperson, it's really only relevant on a subconscious level. There's no point in rationalizing or emphasizing it, especially when in most professions it really does not say anything about the abilities of the person you're interviewing.
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i broke my bosses arm in the last interview i did.
if he could have, he would have given me a thumbs up. but he couldn't.
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i hire employees based on a spreadsheet.
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It's funny on a lot of levels, he thinks that having a strong first impression doesn't include a firm handshake which falls under communication. I just find it funny to hear a comment like that after all the things I have heard and gone through in my life because it's not true. Body language is just how humans communicate, and that includes a handshake.
Having a poor hand shake will not end your career, but why would anyone pick someone who shows poor self-confidence for a position when you have a hand full candidates with equal or better resumes and show they are confident about the job.
having a poor handshake to me...is like asking someone "hello, how are you" and they say "hi." it's not making me reach out for you at all.
Most communication and judgments about a person are not done by conversation, in fact conversation is usually used to confirm or correct the judgments you have already made about a through body language and behavior.
:) I've met enough people in my life to come to the conclusion that a handshake means next to nothing. Really some people just don't feel the need to grip and flex when they give a handshake, I'll do it if it seems like I should but honestly it's one of those things that only faggots(who read those middle-management books in the SELF HELP section of bookstores meant for dickheads in HR) really care about.
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some of the most laid back and intelligent people I've met(PhD's, Lawyers, Musicians, and Authors) have the softest handshake ever.
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maybe its cuz my biceps are so big they're afraid that if they tried to get in a grip war with me I'd break all their fingers.
*flexes each pec independently*
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hard-grip firm handshakes are for stiff old white people anyway. You slap hands, slide and pound
thats how you do it. every time
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sometimes after you pound, you pull your arm away and open your hand and make an explosion noise with your mouth to let them know you're really down
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obama did it and he became president. why can't I?
REVERSE RACISM
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heh just kidding guys
*shelves 'Who Moved My Cheese?' right next to my copy of 'Rich Dad Poor Dad' and 'Fish! A Remarkable Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results'*
*grips your hand way too hard and stares you directly in the eyes without blinking a moment longer than is comfortable*
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*gets off of work and drinks a six pack and posts on the internet because everyone in the house is asleep*
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how come I get warned for shit but dietcoke didn't get warned for htat
fucking gaming world
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because he's actually funny?
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because he's actually funny?
well I'm not trying to be funny half the time!
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obama did it and he became president. why can't I?
REVERSE RACISM
I don't like this new racism thing, I wish we could go back to the old one.
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yes, more persecution and less humour plese
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ATTN: Drule, you're a faggot good luck with your astrojone web 2.0 gaming website bro
suck my dick
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What the hell happened here? You people keep insisting on handshakes, yelling how trivial it is. It was just an example of stuff like body language, manners and appearance, and some of you seriously underestimate that side. Some interviewers are better at their job than others, can see through appearances and make objective evaluations, but they're all humans and for all humans appearances play a huge part in forming an opinion about other people, especially if you only meet briefly. Some people appear to be stern and strong-willed, others obnoxious and some weasels, and it's little things like a handshake that create that image, not some magical aura. I don't care if you're trying to be coxswain and not care about anything "insignificant", but you always form that image when you meet someone. Some people make decisions based almost solely on that, others less so, but claiming it's trivial is ridiculous.
And it's not only a burden of human nature to try to shake off when you're interviewing. Like several people have said, when you get to an interview you probably have the history and merits for the job. Of course giving additional detail your resume and application don't have is important, but at that point personal appearance is already a valid reason as well to make even a conscious decision about someone. If someone appears annoyingly extroverted and overly sure about himself I wouldn't hire him to a design team of any sort no matter the qualifications if I've got other options. Having good social skills really is an asset in many jobs, and that includes more than being a salesman. It's part of the interviewers job to not only to count years of experience + degrees you have, but also figure out things like is this guy just shy person and nervous because of the interview or so scared of people he really can't express his ideas properly.
Fun fact I heard from the telly sometime ago: if you take people of the same job and position, tall people earn significantly more than short ones. (Sorry can't remember figures)
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The thing about interviewers being human is a really, really important thing. You could possibly not get a job just because the interviewer is having a bad day and is more focused on that than the interview. Maybe they had a fight with their wife that morning. You could back to that exact same place with the exact same interviewer and exact same everything else on a different day and get the job right away. Nobody can be 100% objective, and that's why you can't just walk in with the perfect qualifications and get the job right off the bat every time--it's not a perfect system. It's just regular people like you and me and everyone else trying to come to a decision.
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what
objective about what? Who cares if you're pissed off or had a bad day? And what kind of fucking asshole would take that out subconsciously or not on anyone trying to just GET A JOB AND SIT THROUGH INTERVIEW?? Its not called being objective its called not being a complete douche bag.
Do you know that when a business is trying to get hired on they NEED someone to fill a spot and make them money? Its not about being picky and sifting through possible applicants because they look dirty and sound mean its about filling the position and moving the fuck on. If you didn't get the job you wanted it wasn't because you don't know how to shake hands right, its because your timing was bad or you were missing something. You're picking someone to work for a company you're not picking a fucking life partner I seriously don't know where you people are getting this shit.
The last job I just got I drove to new orleans for an interview. I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt, looked like I just woke up (was driving all morning), didn't brush my hair or anything, didn't say much and I'm pretty sure looked like I was pissed off. The guy interviewing me was from HR and was wearing dress clothes and a tie. He asked me a few questions about my experience and I had the job, no gazing into my eyes to see if I was a crooked guy or whatever you're talking about.
Edit: also bring dc back thats bullshit
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ATTN: Drule, you're a faggot good luck with your astrojone web 2.0 gaming website bro
suck my dick
ahahaha did this hurt your feelings drule
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No but we don't need people who whine about warns, and stop making public callouts for the last time.
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ouch..guess i've been astrojoned..
nothing you warned him for was "bitchiness" (whatever that is)
why do you warn people for the most trivial shit jesus christ you're like a kid who got his first job as the hall monitor in school.
THERE .. WILL BE NO SHENANIGANS IN MY ASTROJONE!!!
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ahahaha thanks you faggot go eat a dick
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Well, he complained about the warn he got for sextuple posting, and he was banned because his warn meter was maxed out (and so is yours I see).
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man gaming world is falling apart. what the heck guys? two people in a row getting banned?
anyways, you don't have to give them a perfect handshake. Just communicate them that you are a self-confident and able individual.
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ban me next
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what
objective about what? Who cares if you're pissed off or had a bad day? And what kind of fucking asshole would take that out subconsciously or not on anyone trying to just GET A JOB AND SIT THROUGH INTERVIEW?? Its not called being objective its called not being a complete douche bag.
Do you know that when a business is trying to get hired on they NEED someone to fill a spot and make them money? Its not about being picky and sifting through possible applicants because they look dirty and sound mean its about filling the position and moving the fuck on. If you didn't get the job you wanted it wasn't because you don't know how to shake hands right, its because your timing was bad or you were missing something. You're picking someone to work for a company you're not picking a fucking life partner I seriously don't know where you people are getting this shit.
The last job I just got I drove to new orleans for an interview. I was wearing shorts and a t-shirt, looked like I just woke up (was driving all morning), didn't brush my hair or anything, didn't say much and I'm pretty sure looked like I was pissed off. The guy interviewing me was from HR and was wearing dress clothes and a tie. He asked me a few questions about my experience and I had the job, no gazing into my eyes to see if I was a crooked guy or whatever you're talking about.
Edit: also bring dc back thats bullshit
you are blowing what i said way out of proportion chill out, i just mean that nobody is going to judge you 100% based on your own merits because they are human beings with their own situations, maybe that just means they're judging you 80% or w/e that doesn't mean they're ABSOLUTELY HAVING IT IN FOR YOU, also no they aren't just filling the position if they were the first qualified person that walked in would have the job and this is not true and never has been, your experiences also aren't the be all end all because DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT INTERVIEWS some interviewers WOULD judge you based on looking so sloppy that's just human nature sorry
this topic is about how to do your BEST at an interview and it doesn't hurt to take this into account and give a good handshake and wear nice clothes and make eye contact there is no reason for anyone to be so up in arms over whether it's important because JUST DO IT IT MIGHT HELP
why do you warn people for the most trivial shit
want to know this too, sorry if this gets me warned i got two before i get banned anyway, there is no reason dc and ryan should be banned over this of all things let's just ban everybody
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i think he got warned for making like twenty useless posts in a row?? and then they both just started being huge trolls for no reason and they got warned to max meterage
i think.
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they are both cool dudes in the gw community and don't deserve to be banned from it over dumb little shit like this, i know it was based on warns but w/e it's not cool
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they arent cool enough to BREAK THE RULES, velfarre. not break the rules. also they werent that cool. also they'll be back in like a week (well maybe not dietcoke, he got like 12 warns rofl)
but yeah i am done with this......... if you want to discuss this further i suggest pming a mod or asking one on irc........
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woah velfarre if you start calling out youre gona get banned next
an i want to get banend next
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troll
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drule is the unibanner.
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Holy shit, I just had the best LOL in such a long time. Btw plz ban me next cuz im callin ur dUm8 harhar...
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poor ryan and dietcoke. good luck in your extraforum endeavors.
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Ok great.