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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: XxNemesis29xX on October 03, 2009, 06:06:16 am
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Just saw the 2nd episode and man, this is an epic drama! Some say its the next Lost and really, it might be. Not many, if ANY, show has ever had such a unique premise. I really can't find any show... Heroes, people with superpowers... not new at all. LOST, people on a mysterious island, also pretty done. All Doctor-Shows obviously are not ground-breaking. It's currently the #1 new drama, hopefully it'll develop a huge fan base so it doesn't get cut! For those of you who have no idea what the show is about, first of: GO WATCH IT! episodes on www.hulu.com ; secondly, it's about a worldwide disaster where every single person blacks out for 2 min. and 17 seconds all at 11 am of one fateful morning. After the first episode, you'll be hooked. Especially cause of the amazing cliffhanger!
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it looks cool, i didn't know they were 2 eps in already!
but really they had me sold at "john cho"
i was watching a commercial for it and they were looking at security tapes and saw somebody walking around during the black out and woweee that gave me a chill right down to the bones!
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i am watching this right now on hlulu and it's pretty good!
i admit a lot of the plot points are pretty weak, for instance how the main guy insinuates what his dream was
i really like the all star cast too! the famous jett jackson kicks ass
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yeah this looks terrible.
i saw an ad in the cinema and thought it was gonna be a film, but this is the BIGGEST excuse for another lost-like drama, and i hated that.
if it was a film it could be pretty decent, but meh.
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I watched the first episode and didnt think it was too bad, its the type of show I would normally watch so expected to enjoy it.
I found it somewhat interesting to find out that the book this show is based on actually had the flash forward jump 20years into the future and not 6months like in the tv show.. I suppose there would be no impact if we had to wait 20 years to see the outcome unlike 6months where they can gradually work their way up too.
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I think that the reality we're seeing now is actually the dream they're having whi;e they're frozen and the so-called dream is actually a glimpse of reality after they wake up because they were actually frozen for months. In season 3 we will find out this is a parallel universe to Lost and the time freezes happen whenever the island is moved and the main character is a fusion of richard alpart and jack and his wife is penny and their daughter charlie is charlotte.
one thing I enjoy about the series so far is pointing out all the abstract similarities to lost like DISTINCTIVE LOOKING ASIAN, ALIEN LOOKING BLACK PERSON theres a ton of them if u get creative
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no i'm pretty certain this would make a terrible film too
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I thought there already was a film that did this????
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Man, I'm waiting for every Thursday to get here so I can watch another episode. I love these epic dramas, with everything unknown to you, and when they give you one answer, they present 5 more mysteries! Great stuff. And about it being a LOST clone, the only similarities are that they are... epic dramas with epic mysteries. That's barely a clone, rather it just "lets do something that works"
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Man, I'm waiting for every Thursday to get here so I can watch another episode. I love these epic dramas, with everything unknown to you, and when they give you one answer, they present 5 more mysteries! Great stuff. And about it being a LOST clone, the only similarities are that they are... epic dramas with epic mysteries. That's barely a clone, rather it just "lets do something that works"
More like, "lets do something like lost with lots of mysteries that will build a huge fanbase like lost so we will make lots of money like lost"
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yeah this is pretty much lost but without an island involved
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It's an epic drama - that's just the nature of the show. You can't have an epic drama without an epic storyline, and the only way a storyline can span a a great length is true mysteries that arch across the show.
The argument you're making can be said to anything... Final Fantasy games with similar themes, Resident Evil with the same old zombies, new Metallica albums with the same old riffs and solos... they all work, and they're all great, so why is it that you're making it seem like something's wrong with that?
It's just like LOST in that it has... characters and mysteries and a storyline
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new Metallica albums with the same old riffs and solos... they all work, and they're all great,
i gave up reading your post at exactly this point
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Granted bad example, but you know what I'm saying. Everything's got a formula, and you gotta follow it if you want your show to work.
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Granted bad example, but you know what I'm saying. Everything's got a formula, and you gotta follow it if you want your show to work.
you mean to make money. you can make a show however you want, but you have follow the prescribed formula if you want to make money and you don't have any good ideas
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you mean to make money. you can make a show however you want, but you have follow the prescribed formula if you want to make money and you don't have any good ideas
Yeah, I don't get this reasoning. The only way a show makes money is if it has good ideas. True, sometimes a show with good ideas fails for one reason or another, but a show rarely will succeed if it doesn't have good ideas. People are spoiled now a days, and with so many things to watch, we naturally will watch only the things that entertain us. Good shows, good ideas, do this, and so they remain on the air, and, yes make lots of money. It's not ONE or the OTHER: good ideas OR make lots of money. It's one via the other.
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Yeah, I don't get this reasoning. The only way a show makes money is if it has good ideas. True, sometimes a show with good ideas fails for one reason or another, but a show rarely will succeed if it doesn't have good ideas. People are spoiled now a days, and with so many things to watch, we naturally will watch only the things that entertain us. Good shows, good ideas, do this, and so they remain on the air, and, yes make lots of money. It's not ONE or the OTHER: good ideas OR make lots of money. It's one via the other.
You would be surprised that this only applies to the resulting show an no other part of the industry works this logically and coherently. Sure the good ideas make money, and the best ideas make the most money, and anyone in the industry can attest to this fact. The ironic thing is though that the entire system is set up so that good ideas are shunned, and the best ideas never see the light of day. This is because by their very nature, good ideas are unpredictable, and no matter how good they are, they always have that chance of failing for one reason or another. But you might ask "Well if there is a chance of the show being great, why not make the risk of investing in something that has a chance to fail?", and I would respond with the question "How do you think the people high enough in network television to have any influence when it comes to how to spend that kind of money got there?" (If the answer you immediately thought up was "Well, they must be there because they are the best at picking out good ideas." Then you have a very naive viewpoint by assuming we live in a country where capitalism still works.)
The point is that those people are there to pick out the ideas that make the most money. It would be convenient to assume that picking the shows that are the most entertaining are logically the best candidates, and they usually are. But there are a billion more factors regarded in making the estimation of how much money is to be made from any given show, and you can't forget that it wouldn't make as much money for the network if they only put people there to pick out the most entertaining shows rather than the most profitable.
At least that's how his reasoning sounds to me. It's not perfect reasoning, but picking something that predictably and reliably makes more money (a.k.a: a formula) is a much better bet than picking something that could very well make more money, or could make no money at all (a.k.a: an exciting, untested idea).
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Okay, I guess I see what you're saying. A prime example would be Arrested Development, I loved the show and it was great but apparently a lot of people didn't get it so it was cancelled. That's a shame!
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Yeah, I don't get this reasoning. The only way a show makes money is if it has good ideas. True, sometimes a show with good ideas fails for one reason or another, but a show rarely will succeed if it doesn't have good ideas. People are spoiled now a days, and with so many things to watch, we naturally will watch only the things that entertain us. Good shows, good ideas, do this, and so they remain on the air, and, yes make lots of money. It's not ONE or the OTHER: good ideas OR make lots of money. It's one via the other.
the real world is still on tv, firefly isn't. don't you realize the large number of good ideas for shows that never made it past one season? or the awful shows that are going into their 8th season? it's like this more than it's not
:welp:
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velfarre it seems like you are trying to imply that the real world is a not a good television show. please tell me that you are only using its reference in a joking manner and do not actually have negative feelings towards the real world. please refrain from this sort of action again please!
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is this show an epic drama?
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I'm gonna watch this tomorrow cause I haven't sneered at anything in like a whole 2 days, this shit looks totally sneer-worthy.
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the first two episodes are on hulu, you could have been sneering all week!
There are plenty of good reasons to dislike this show but "lost did it first" is pretty lame.
For me this show is going to be the halfway mark to a new house episode
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the real world is still on tv, firefly isn't. don't you realize the large number of good ideas for shows that never made it past one season? or the awful shows that are going into their 8th season? it's like this more than it's not
:welp:
Finally, something we can agree on!
Most of the shows I really enjoyed died after one season. I actually became superstitious about it at one point. I remember watching the first couple episodes of House when it came out, and then making an effort not to watch it the rest of that season, because I figured "eh, I'll get hooked, and it'll get taken off the air, like usual."
Well, it seems to have worked, because House is still on tv, even after I caught up with the first season in re-runs.
Two of the casualties - Dresden Files (not as good as the books, but pretty entertaining) and the U.S. version of Touching Evil (with Jeffery Donovan), weren't that lucky.
As for Fast Forward - I described it as "The post-Lost version of Lost" to someone today. If they have a finite number of episodes planned, maybe two seasons (three would probably be pushing it), they might be able to keep it interesting. Lost was interesting at the beginning, but, to me, it just became 'random tangent to stretch the story' and 'attempt to tie every tangent back into the main story so that it LOOKS like we knew what we were doing all along.'
The more interesting, and/or original, the initial premise, the harder it seems to be to keep it going. This could be why bad shows seem to go on ad infinitum, the premise is so simple that it takes virtually no effort to stretch it out mindlessly?
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I watched the first two episodes and it's pretty good so far. The story seems interesting and I just hope they won't blow it like they did with lost and heroes.
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is this show an epic drama?
hell yes you read my mind if I see another goddamn idiot use the word "epic" in such an overexaggerated and annoying matter I'm going to lose my shit.
also this looked interesting but I fucking hate lost and if they drag this out like that stupid ass show then fuck
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I'm not using the word Epic like a dude that just ripped an EPIC FART. I'm using it meaning it all fits the definition of an EPIC story (back when it was used properly... like Homer's Odyssey or the Iliad): grand scope, grand length, challenges all against the hero's odds, ... this is an epic drama. Not many shows are EPIC, and this one sure as hell is!
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I'm not using the word Epic like a dude that just ripped an EPIC FART. I'm using it meaning it all fits the definition of an EPIC story (back when it was used properly... like Homer's Odyssey or the Iliad): grand scope, grand length, challenges all against the hero's odds, ... this is an epic drama. Not many shows are EPIC, and this one sure as hell is!
shut up
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You shut up p-slice.
everyone just SHUT UP imo
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Resident Evil 4! Finally got around to playing this epic game
when I should be studying more. I'm finally free from its chains, and it rocks epicly.
Pretty epic fails every time we get up. How abnormal is this?
Season 1 was and still is the single most epic season of any show I've ever seen
hated how he was so powerless last season - the epic hero needs to be... epic!
FFX was not EPIC enough. It's story was awesome, but you could beat the whole game in 25 hours.
none of these are about this stupid show in particular.
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You know what this show's better than? no me neither actually yeaa I do: Defying gravity. Someone told me to watch defying gravity on IRC and I'm guessing it was a practical joke because hooooly shit
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I thought people were referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Forward_%281996_TV_series%29
Though it's not new and I don't think it has been aired on ABC.
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New episode was great, loved the cliffhanger ending
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Also, I might high tail it outta GW, I dunno why I keep coming back here. Probably cause I spent a lotta years here, especially when I was working on Rm2k3. Good memories, but this place just reeks of assholes. It seems like everyone here has some goal to be the biggest smart ass they can in every post, and not just post like normal people. Anyway, I'm out, have fun bogging down the show some more!
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Wow that's epic butthurt
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saying a show sucks is boring so sometimes you have to spice things up
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also thanks for the cool pics
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don't want to make u think I'm bogging down the show but just look at those cardboard buildings they didn't even try to make them look real (it's africa....)
notice in these pics the side of the tower looks perforated? is it a ladder?
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I WON I WON
DO IG ET SOMETHING SHINEY??
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yeah its definitely a ladder.
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i guess we just don't appreciate art
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but t seems much too large for a human to climb.. any theories gang?
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its to represent not getting bogged down by bad writing
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Don't mind if I miss a episode or two, though. But I will watch it online soon to catch before the third episode.