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Title: Probably getting kicked out... need some help.
Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 08:28:12 pm
Basically, my Dad hates me. And it's finally reached the point where is genuinely going to kick me out (he's a heartless bastard). The only thing is... where do I try to go and what do I take with me?

First off: None of the rest of the family is willing to take me... none of my friends will be able to have me over, apart from the odd days and the Government will most likely not be able to shelter me, as I'm no longer a "child" and I'm not a woman and don't have any children...

What the fuck do I do.

If it's of any importance, I live in the UK, in a small town 30 minutes away from London on the train.
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Post by: Kaworu on November 16, 2009, 08:32:28 pm
what town? there's quite a few people here orbiting london
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Post by: goldenratio on November 16, 2009, 08:32:45 pm
come to muy 'ouse love we put you up roight

im sorry thats insensitive im very sorry for your situation
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 08:33:59 pm
I live in Fleet, it's near Farnborough/Woking/Basingstoke that sort of area (if anyone knows any of them...)

and np drac
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Post by: Lyndon on November 16, 2009, 08:37:22 pm
is it possible to check in the YMCA or something like that?

http://www.ymca.org.uk/bfora/systems/xmlviewer/default.asp?arg=DS_YMCA_WEBART_99/_page.xsl/140
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Post by: blood hell on November 16, 2009, 08:38:29 pm
how much is an apartment where you live? how hard is it to get a job?
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Post by: JMickle on November 16, 2009, 08:41:22 pm
how old are you? 18? dang.

i am now worried my dad can kick me out :fogetscared:
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 08:43:19 pm
The closest YMCA there to me is London, which is quite a trek in itself, as I don't really know London. And it's a minimum of £500 a month and very hard to get a job here... I've been trying damn hard to get one ever since I've left college.
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Post by: JMickle on November 16, 2009, 08:45:45 pm
look further up the country.
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Post by: Lyndon on November 16, 2009, 08:48:38 pm
That sounds awfully high for the YMCA. I used to live in Hertfordshire, just north of London and I paid £350 month excluding bills for a 4 bedroom house. Are you claiming job seekers allowance? You know you can get housing benefits as well?
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Post by: Kaworu on November 16, 2009, 08:50:38 pm
350 a month what? I live in bucks and you could just about get a one bedroom flat for that.
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Post by: Lyndon on November 16, 2009, 08:52:18 pm
yeah but three other people were paying the same, so its £1400 a month for the house split between 4
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 08:55:01 pm
That sounds awfully high for the YMCA. I used to live in Hertfordshire, just north of London and I paid £350 month excluding bills for a 4 bedroom house. Are you claiming job seekers allowance? You know you can get housing benefits as well?
Sorry, I meant it's £500 for a standard apartment, not YMCA associated. May I also add, I only have about £200 on me at the moment. I AM currently seeking Job Seeker's allowance... and by housing benefits, do you mean additional money given to me for renting a place?
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Post by: Lyndon on November 16, 2009, 08:57:18 pm
yeah. My brother lives in Camden Town in North London and when he came back from 3 months in Nepal he was unemployed and he claimed housing benefits to pay £120 a week. I'm not sure whether you need an existing property to claim or if you are entitled to it before getting a place
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 09:08:04 pm
Okay, that sounds like a tasty idea. I'll probably attempt it. If not, I'm not sure what I'll do...
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on November 16, 2009, 09:47:26 pm
first things first, grab all your computer gear, consoles, and games.
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Post by: Shepperd on November 16, 2009, 09:53:18 pm
first things first, grab all your computer gear, consoles, and games.
and sell them

also get any kind of job you can. Maybe there's higher chances to get a job outside london than within? I dunno
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Post by: chanicakes on November 16, 2009, 10:03:13 pm
Very difficult place your in, I was there too. No job, 700$ for rent each month and already behind on bills when I left. It took about 6 weeks to get on my feet, took a job as an assistant manager at mcdonalds. Waited for a great job opening somewhere else and ran for it, ended up with oil and gas service company.
To be honest it is hard, it takes time... make that money stretch all you can and try to work at a pub under the table.

I hope you figure stuff out or your dad would hopefully give you some more time.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 16, 2009, 10:49:18 pm
craigslist.com

find a sugar-daddy and a sublet.

life's tough, sometimes you gotta take a shot in the mouth and live with some burnouts
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Post by: Kaworu on November 16, 2009, 10:51:58 pm
sounds like you're talking from experience here bro
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 16, 2009, 10:52:46 pm
~everyone's got a story to tell~ :*
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Post by: bible_basher on November 16, 2009, 11:10:30 pm
just steal some plasma tvs and you'll be sorted
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 16, 2009, 11:26:32 pm
thanks for the advice peeps (i've read it all and took it all onboard)

btw coke and bible basher those are really good ideas but i think they are more for people like minorities
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Post by: Seawed on November 17, 2009, 12:48:01 am
make sure to bring your bone density scanner
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Post by: Farren on November 17, 2009, 01:04:26 am
what happened? Does your dad just hate you for no reason or are you a deadbeat and or piss him off all the time? I'd say do some shit around the house maybe and show him you're trying to get a job? Tuck your pride in and see what you can do to buy some time, get a job and a place as fast as you can then move out and try to keep it that way.

I'm lucky I'm never home because I'm a real dick to my dad sometimes because he's a drunk and getting dumber as he gets older and I kind of provoke him alot but its like prodding an angry monkey with a stick I can't help it, its funny.

My parents would virtually never kick me out though cus I'm one of the few people in my family thats actually trying to make something of themselves and they don't want to fuck that up.  I still wanna move out real bad so I just keep sailing and hope I'll save enough to buy a house soon.
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 17, 2009, 02:09:36 am
what happened? Does your dad just hate you for no reason or are you a deadbeat and or piss him off all the time? I'd say do some shit around the house maybe and show him you're trying to get a job? Tuck your pride in and see what you can do to buy some time, get a job and a place as fast as you can then move out and try to keep it that way.

I'm lucky I'm never home because I'm a real dick to my dad sometimes because he's a drunk and getting dumber as he gets older and I kind of provoke him alot but its like prodding an angry monkey with a stick I can't help it, its funny.

My parents would virtually never kick me out though cus I'm one of the few people in my family thats actually trying to make something of themselves and they don't want to fuck that up.  I still wanna move out real bad so I just keep sailing and hope I'll save enough to buy a house soon.
My Dad seems to hate me because I have no real DRIVE towards money. I often finding myself doing things that make me no money, but are things like creating art in one form or another, or watching film and listening to music... he seems to have the impression I should be spending EVERY minute I have looking for a job. I'm never a dick to him either, I always respect the guy as much as I can, but he seems to bring up massive arguements over tiny things. He also can't seem to understand I haven't focused on exactly what I want to do yet (but I'm hoping to aim for getting into film or another media for a living).
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Post by: Mince Wobley on November 17, 2009, 02:20:07 am
Quote
I often finding myself doing things that make me no money, but are things like creating art in one form or another, or watching film and listening to music...
So you're just freeloading don't do that. I don't like doing it.
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on November 17, 2009, 02:25:29 am
My Dad seems to hate me because I have no real DRIVE towards money. I often finding myself doing things that make me no money, but are things like creating art in one form or another, or watching film and listening to music... he seems to have the impression I should be spending EVERY minute I have looking for a job. I'm never a dick to him either, I always respect the guy as much as I can, but he seems to bring up massive arguements over tiny things. He also can't seem to understand I haven't focused on exactly what I want to do yet (but I'm hoping to aim for getting into film or another media for a living).

Just get a minimum wage shitty job. That should calm him down.
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Post by: FrostyPink on November 17, 2009, 02:33:43 am
So you're just freeloading don't do that. I don't like doing it.
Sorry, I forgot to mention I AM spending a LOT of time looking for a job or else I wouldn't be able to get my benefits as it is...
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 02:47:49 am
thanks for the advice peeps (i've read it all and took it all onboard)

btw coke and bible basher those are really good ideas but i think they are more for people like minorities

this is pretty much all you need to know about how to get by in the world

bang on the system and show that u ready to ride
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Post by: Evangel on November 17, 2009, 03:15:46 am
It sounds like your father expects you to contribute and obviously RM2K games or whatever you do are not the answer.  I know a job can be difficult to find right now, but if you really put yourself out there, you can make it happen.  I've seen a few people in your situation, and they were not working as hard as they could to find a job.  You should devote a good portion of your day to turning in applications and following up on employers you've already spoken with.  Following up is very important.  Almost every job I've landed was because I called back every couple of days.  Show that initiative and make yourself more than just another person among a whole stack of applications. 

Your pops will probably not kick you out if you just make a genuine effort to land a job.
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Post by: dark_james_griffin on November 17, 2009, 05:55:56 am
fags getting kicked out of their houses lmao

how about

stop being fags that people don't want to live with
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Post by: Robbie on November 17, 2009, 07:14:00 am
You should be eligible for housing benefit, but because you're under 25, you'll only be able to get the rate for a shared room. Your best bet would probably be to try to find a room in a shared house as the deposit will be a lot lower than for a flat. Saying that, though, it's possible to get flats for £250 a month, but I suspect not around London. I rented a flat in a town called Dunstable for £395 a month. Sometimes a landlord will accept a 'deposit bond' from the council in lieu of you paying a lump sum which is really hard to find. The moving in costs for my flat in Dunstable came to like £900.

Have you tried the council? The waiting lists for council flats are very long, but if you're homeless (but not intentionally homeless - your dad needs to have kicked you out, and you need to have no other place to go), it's considered an emergency and they'll probably put you in a bed and breakfast for a few days until you can sort yourself out a place.

Hope things work out!
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Post by: Massy2k6 on November 17, 2009, 08:15:29 am
Yeah, councils will normally have someone you can speak too about this sort of thing. Let them know you might soon be homeless and what your options are. They may also direct you to a few cheap hostels in the area, which is what my little brother lived in for a while.

The link is for housing benefits in medway but I am positive every local council does the same thing, so if you really are as desperate as you say then your first stop should be your local council and making sure you speak to the right person there.

http://www.medway.gov.uk/index/housing/housebenefit/73203/91707.htm
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 08:42:27 am
LOL u fucking Europeans. Ur government wont even let u pull urself up by ur own bootstraps
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Post by: Massy2k6 on November 17, 2009, 11:26:46 am
LOL u fucking Europeans. Ur government wont even let u pull urself up by ur own bootstraps

This is why you have so many bums lurking around your streets and people struggling to pay their medical bills. As fuc*ed up as our government may be, we get a lot of support and don't rely on suing our family members for a few hundred bucks... yeah we europeans watch Judge Judy and we laugh our asses off.
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Post by: big ass skelly on November 17, 2009, 11:57:29 am
This is why you have so many bums lurking around your streets and people struggling to pay their medical bills.
The system is perfect, those are just lazy people or people who don't have strong enough bootstraps. I'ts evolution bitch
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Post by: Alec on November 17, 2009, 02:47:55 pm
hahaha judge judy. Massy quick question does everybody in europe act like they do in monty python?
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Post by: Alec on November 17, 2009, 03:04:46 pm
The best part is most Americans don't even watch shows like judge judy. They come on while we're either supposed to be working or when we're asleep or drunk.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 03:36:01 pm
yeah but it's on right before(or after, idk) the best block of television ever: COPS, Springer, and Maury

big ol' slice of americana right there
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 03:38:49 pm
the UK is pretty much just as trashy as the US imo

watch your back if you move into council housing, wouldn't want any chavs to nick your mobile
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Post by: Silhouette on November 17, 2009, 03:40:31 pm
If you do get kicked out, look into whatever welfare you can. If you qualify for it, you probably need it, and you're paying for it anyway with your tax dollars.
Also, just start saving as much as you can for the inevitability of having to be on your own, whether now or later on in life.
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Post by: chanicakes on November 17, 2009, 03:45:56 pm
I agree with maybe talking to a council housing, that would be a great option. There are also in small towns plenty of under the table jobs available you just gotta put yourself out there and ask both "is there work available under the table or over the table?"

If you can pick up some here and there jobs from neighbors and people around town you can make enough to keep you afloat until you do in fact get a good job.

Another thing I can suggest, this is what my cousins do. They offer grocery services, so you go to the persons house 2 times a week and do their shopping for them, they give you 20-50$ each week for doing their shopping for them twice a week. Not a bad way to make a buck, with doing it for 5 people a week you would be earning at least 100$ a week, not bad IMO.

PS. to those who are joking at the OP's expense, not cool man... not cool... if you were in the same position you'd like a straight answer and a little respect.
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 03:49:51 pm
aren't you supposed to have a job and be moving out of your parents' house when you're 18 anyway under normal circumstances?
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Post by: crone_lover720 on November 17, 2009, 03:54:11 pm
art thou not supposed to be getting married and moving into your own apprenticeship quarters at 12 anyway under normal circumstances?
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 04:31:35 pm
learning a trade young is a good idea too
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Post by: chanicakes on November 17, 2009, 05:51:13 pm
Lots of people live with their parents past 18, it's a misconception that a kid is supposed to leave the nest at 18, 100 years ago they would not leave until they were married and had a child. In fact, in Pakistan it is even common for parents to keep a son or daughter living with their wife and children in the same home they grew up in or that the parents own.
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Post by: Jester on November 17, 2009, 06:14:46 pm
whilst using pakistan as an example is not very useful considering we are talking a purely western scenario here, it is true that a tooooooon of people live with their 'rents past 18. especially in the uk. housing here is pretty nutso, not to mention the current job status (hint: there are none)

also chavs nick ipods, get your facts straight. innit.
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on November 17, 2009, 06:20:08 pm
aren't you supposed to have a job and be moving out of your parents' house when you're 18 anyway under normal circumstances?
that differs from country to country you know. i don't know how much difference between UK and US though but i assume they are exactly the same?!? this isn't a jab yer the man dietcoke  :fogetcool:
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Post by: Mince Wobley on November 17, 2009, 07:00:51 pm
Well you're supposed to pursue the american dream on your own.......
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Post by: Barack Obama on November 17, 2009, 07:01:50 pm
Lots of people live with their parents past 18, it's a misconception that a kid is supposed to leave the nest at 18, 100 years ago they would not leave until they were married and had a child. In fact, in Pakistan it is even common for parents to keep a son or daughter living with their wife and children in the same home they grew up in or that the parents own.
maybe that's why they grow up to be childish sand people who's entire genetic legacy can be wiped from the planet with a single hellfire missile launched from a drone
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Post by: Hundley on November 17, 2009, 07:05:22 pm
maybe that's why they grow up to be childish sand people who's entire genetic legacy can be wiped from the planet with a single hellfire missile launched from a drone
hahahaha
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 18, 2009, 12:30:56 am
travel the country on foot, get food by panhandling or dumpster diving or eat dandelions, squat empty buildings etc lol
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Post by: Ryan on November 18, 2009, 01:39:57 am
those stupid africans maybe they wouldnt be so hungry if they started eating dandelions -_-
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Post by: Farren on November 18, 2009, 01:41:20 am
ahahaa

that was good dok, the fact that you made fun of yourself made it even funnier.
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 18, 2009, 02:14:08 am
Actually I know people that do that so yeah.  Some people make more than 70 bucks a day just by panhandling...and I know people that dumpster dive and make entire feasts out of what they find.
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Post by: jamie on November 18, 2009, 03:08:13 am
yuk yuk
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Post by: ThugTears666 on November 18, 2009, 03:28:27 am
if its just grass and fruit then its not a feast sorry, a feast must have meat included
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on November 18, 2009, 03:38:04 am
being homeless only sucks if you've got more things than you can comfortably carry otherwise it's not too bad
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 18, 2009, 04:31:52 am
if its just grass and fruit then its not a feast sorry, a feast must have meat included
lol
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Post by: crone_lover720 on November 18, 2009, 05:18:33 am
claude monet 1840-1926: a feast for the eyes
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Post by: ThugTears666 on November 18, 2009, 05:58:27 am
lol

sorry but i speak the truth
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Post by: c0nfu53d on November 18, 2009, 02:37:53 pm
Just do what I did when I left home - jump into a bed sit temporary until you find something better. Just make sure the doors have either 3 or 5 lever locks and not just a shitty yale lock and you'll be fine.
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Post by: Jester on November 18, 2009, 04:30:23 pm
if its just grass and fruit then its not a feast sorry, a feast must have meat included
depending on where you live you can actually find meat and bread and tinned stuff and all kinds of things in dumpsters around supermarkets.

as soon as they go past their sell by date they are thrown out, or even just to make room for new stock - just make sure it's all wrapped 8)
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Post by: jamie on November 18, 2009, 06:34:44 pm
depending on where you live you can actually find meat and bread and tinned stuff and all kinds of things in dumpsters around supermarkets.

as soon as they go past their sell by date they are thrown out, or even just to make room for new stock - just make sure it's all wrapped 8)

yep! bin diving!

few people actually dive
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 18, 2009, 08:56:07 pm
depending on where you live you can actually find meat and bread and tinned stuff and all kinds of things in dumpsters around supermarkets.

as soon as they go past their sell by date they are thrown out, or even just to make room for new stock - just make sure it's all wrapped 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCBJVEq4BA
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Post by: dragonx on November 19, 2009, 06:44:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCBJVEq4BA
lol
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Post by: Doktormartini on November 19, 2009, 07:03:43 pm
aren't you supposed to have a job and be moving out of your parents' house when you're 18 anyway under normal circumstances?
I'm 23 and still live with my mom although next year I might be moving out.
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Post by: DoctorEars on November 19, 2009, 07:24:39 pm
watch your back if you move into council housing, wouldn't want any chavs to nick your mobile

I would listen to this, my girlfriend used to live over in the UK and she told me once about a guy who lived in council housing near her who got axed. AXED.
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Post by: Carrion Crow on November 19, 2009, 07:45:00 pm
I was walking down the street taking my guitar just AROUND THE CORNER on bonfire night and some chavs were throwing lit fireworks at random people and targeted me cause obviously i looked like a ponce with my guitar slung over my shoulder and I totally shit one and had to run away.

Chavs are scum.
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Post by: JMickle on November 19, 2009, 09:06:44 pm
I was walking down the street taking my guitar just AROUND THE CORNER on bonfire night and some chavs were throwing lit fireworks at random people and targeted me cause obviously i looked like a ponce with my guitar slung over my shoulder and I totally shit one and had to run away.

Chavs are scum.
pussy
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Post by: Farren on November 20, 2009, 01:48:38 am
shit one as in knocked the fuck out of one or shit one as in shit your pants and ran away

I want to walk up to a group of chavs with a wallet full of fat euro in my hand and ask them where the nearest bank is and see what happen


AHAHAHA PSYCHE ITS USD ASSHOLE ITS WORTHLESS *punches through gap in teeth
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Post by: maladroithim on November 20, 2009, 05:12:23 am
Well there's always the possibility that your dad is right and you should listen to him and do as he says. You really do sort of have a responsibility as a person to contribute to society, and sitting around all day doing "artistic" things isn't really that. Anyway you have like 24 hours in a day and you could spare at least 8 of them and do something with your life. I don't know if I am misinterpreting, but it really seems to me like he is mad because you are freeloading.

Also there is a very slim chance that a parent would actually throw his son out on the street. That is unless he is an incorrigible monster or . . . you are a pain in the butt and should go to school or work or something.