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Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 22, 2009, 12:50:46 am
I get paid next week and I will have £300 toward my macbook pro fund. The question is, is it really worth it?

At the moment I have a 2 year old HP Compaq 6720s with a Celeron 540 (1.9Ghz) with 2gigs of ram, internal graphics and an 80 gig hard drive.

It has a massive chip off the lid from where I tragically dropped my laptop bag onto a concrete floor and the I key sticks because they keyboard is not very well wearing.

When I take it to project meetings the battery runs down in 10 mins and leaves me looking like a cock when I am trying to demonstrate things in the board room where there are no plug sockets on the middle table.

I would like to get a 13" MBP and I can for about £760 with a student discount whilst I am in uni. I'm just not entirely sure if it is worth the money.

I have a tower PC in my room that is powerful and runs Windows 7 so I don't have to worry about not being able to access windows-specific things.

In your opinon would it be wiser for me to upgrade to a cheaper but higher power Windows laptop or do you think I should take the plunge with the MBP? I am determined not to buy into the crazy underpowered netbook thing people are banging on about at the moment.

If you own a mac are you happy with it right now or do you have some regrets for not buying a windows machine?

The reason I am asking this is because I am not that well off and it is a big move for me to spend the best part of a grand on a piece of electronics.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 22, 2009, 01:20:53 am
If you own a mac are you happy with it right now or do you have some regrets for not buying a windows machine?
Haha, maybe no one's told you, but Mac fanbois are the most rabid of them all. Fanbois act like the Macbook is the best thing since Jesus walked the earth and they will go way out of their way to let you know how much they love their Mac products and how you should too. They're like a fucking cult.

Of course, having repaired Macbooks and the fact that I use a Mac desktop every day for about 7 hours, I can tell you that Apple makes some pretty good quality stuff. The hardware is pretty well thought out and just feels nice to use. Of course you pay a premium for Apple notebooks... some call it the Apple tax. You pay more for the trendy (reputable?) brand, the relative quality compared to most PC manufacturers, and of course the bundled software which many like.

If you don't care about iLife or haven't given OSX a test-run... or if you just want better computing bang for your buck, the Macbook/Pro is probably not your ideal choice.
If you want a very nicely built laptop capable of running OSX and Windows 7/Vista/XP, nice bundled software, and enjoy the added bonus of appearing trendy, you will like the Macbook.

My 2 cents.

Speaking only about myself personally here: I would buy a nice Windows laptop. I prefer Windows 7 to OSX slightly, would enjoy playing games on the go, and am sort of budget conscious.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 22, 2009, 02:05:55 am
I am most attracted by the fact it comes with stuff like garageband installed, has a 7 hour battery which is unheard of with most other makes (in the price range), it has Nvidia graphics and they look very very nice indeed. The new MacBook is fugly imo. It's too curvy and plasticy. The whole being all white = cool thing lost its appeal to me somewhere around 2004.

I can't find a laptop that looks nice for ~£760 that has specs that good. They all look so crappy.

I have used OSX on PCs that aren't mine and I do like it a lot. I use Ubuntu also and it strikes me as being similar but with a wider appeal with more software.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 22, 2009, 02:06:28 am
No, get a vaio
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 22, 2009, 02:07:34 am
No, get a vaio

No fucking way. I work as a resnet buddy on my campus and the only PCs I can't fix are Sony Vaios. My Dad has had 2 and the HDDs died on both of them and they were different models 4 years apart from each other.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 22, 2009, 02:11:10 am
Actually I think those macbooks are really pretty and well designed and minimalistic. I'd get one and install windows in it if I were rich.

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Ps I'd get the vaio if I were a high level executive

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Pps: Apple is less reliable than sony according to the numbers

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=040626EC-1A64-6A71-CE0B1803CEDA95FF
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 22, 2009, 03:03:27 am
Macbooks are very sweet, and as long as you have a windows machine nearby to do your windows-only stuff there is no reason not to get a macbook for day to day things.  One thing I would suggest though is looking into rebates, deals and student discounts (you said you were going to do this already but I am emphasizing YES DO THIS).  I knocked several hundred dollars off of my macbook this way, as well as getting a free ipod and printer.  It's probably easier to find this stuff during back to school time (which is when I got mine), but I'm sure there are plenty of rebates and discounts if you look around.  Sometimes it is hard to find the info, and sometimes it involves mailing in invoices and proofs of purchase, but it's well worth it to get a couple hundred back on the price.  I say go for it.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 22, 2009, 04:16:20 am
How did you manage to swing a free ipod, was it some dude who came to your campus student's union or something?
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 22, 2009, 05:46:24 am
No, it was just a deal they had going on on their site.  Like I said though it was probably a back to school thing.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 22, 2009, 06:46:18 am
No, it was just a deal they had going on on their site.  Like I said though it was probably a back to school thing.
Yup they do this every year. If you're a college student and you buy a Macbook they give you a free iPod Touch 16gb if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 22, 2009, 01:33:58 pm
I got mine in '07 so it was pre-touch but it was the newest model at the time iirc.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Verne on November 22, 2009, 04:45:36 pm
I'm a big Mac (fanboy) hater but I did buy a 13" MacBook Pro earlier this fall. The operating system (OS X) was a huge disappointment. It did work but it wasn't the saviour operating system the fan boys made it out to be. It's easy to set up stuff but it's just as easy in Windows. The main difference between Windows and Mac OS is that Mac OS doesn't show as much options on the GUI itself, while Windows shows everything. OS X is just easier on the go due to this more "limited" GUI.

What actually made me choose a MacBook Pro instead another HP laptop was the great build design (it feels very sturdy and looks good too :P), 7 hours battery life (its great to not have to drag the power cord around) and the multi-touch track pad.

Its been working well for school stuff and multimedia, but OS X does lack some software, especially on the freeware side. Snow Leopard also killed support for many great programs and even some critical ones (like Mobile Connect for mobile internet connection) but by now I think most of the programs have at least beta version available for Snow Leopard.

I would recommend getting a MacBook if you actually do only use it for work/school.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 23, 2009, 07:46:31 pm
i wouldn't call myself an apple fanboy, im pretty skeptical of both windows and mac and i really don't want an iphone.

regardless, using a mac is a lot less hastle. the gui is cleaner. the only problems i've run into are with the mac firewall, which is completely editable through the terminal window. but has no real GUI. i guess this is the trade off. at least the windows firewall has a gui, though it does suck ass, you can at least navigate it with an interface. it's just ridiculous that apple made it impossible to open up any of your ports via gui. i guess too many noobs opening ports w/o knowing what's going on and people get their info. there's still some stuff that's a mystery with the OS like mapping network drives. can't figure it out. that stuff is much more direct with a pc.

my macbook also gets really fucking hot. i would suggest getting applecare if you get the computer because my charger busted and some crap happened with my battery about 2 years in and it wasn't covered under general warranty anymore and i didn't have applecare so i had to buy a new charger then i had to save up for a new battery. :/ kind of shitty they wouldn't even help me but the problem was their fault. one of my friends also has had problems with her keyboard and apple wouldn't replace it. just seems like they really treasure customers who buy the applecare package.

i guess it's important to tell you that i use my macbook for editing, graphics, 3d, rendering, wow, and i'm going to run windows on it pretty soon. my friend is able to play cod6 on his and it plays pretty well.

i know this is stupid but it seems like a concern of yours and macbooks are great to take to meetings. it makes you look stylish and up-to-date.

one thing that's frustrating moving between the two os's is i often accidentally press the wrong keys for copy and paste cause the apple key is the ctrl key. usually i just have to take a second to remember which os i'm on.

overall, my experience with the mac os has been better than mine with windows.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 23, 2009, 07:51:20 pm
im_so_tired is it good at v-raying (rendering with v-ray)?
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 23, 2009, 09:35:59 pm
is v-ray a maya 2010 thing? i have 8.5 on this machine which doesn't come default with vray, i just use mentalray most the time and it is pretty slow :/
usually i go to the computer lab at school when no one is there and chain render. i actually found a pretty good alienware pc on the street here and i use that for rendering too.

you do maya stuff mince? post it in ga please, that place is so dead and has been for several years but i don't wanna accept it.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 24, 2009, 03:02:46 am
I don't know if it comes with maya 2010. I use it with sketchup to render interiors (at the lowest quality setting or else it'd take weeks to render a single 800x600 image on my obsolete computer)
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: dada on November 24, 2009, 12:38:58 pm
Haha, maybe no one's told you, but Mac fanbois are the most rabid of them all. Fanbois act like the Macbook is the best thing since Jesus walked the earth and they will go way out of their way to let you know how much they love their Mac products and how you should too. They're like a fucking cult.
You know what's also a cult? People who keep talking about how unreasonably biased Mac users are and how you absolutely should never listen to them. Come on man. This is about as old and incorrect as that same Mac cult you yourself describe.

I've been a Mac user for years now and I personally am very happy with my Macbook. It's about 2 years old now but it still works quite well for my purposes (web development and graphic design). If you want a machine just (or mostly) to play games with, you might want to reconsider. There just aren't that many games for the system, although a lot of the bigger ones do get ported these days.

To me, though, the real killer feature of Apple is the operating system. I'm not sure if you've ever worked with it but it's just so much better than Windows. It's fast, it's easy to figure out, it's designed for everything to be as simple as possible, and it's POSIX-compliant. It's very nice to work with and I would recommend it for virtually any type or line of work.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Verne on November 24, 2009, 01:25:47 pm
To me, though, the real killer feature of Apple is the operating system. I'm not sure if you've ever worked with it but it's just so much better than Windows. It's fast, it's easy to figure out, it's designed for everything to be as simple as possible, and it's POSIX-compliant. It's very nice to work with and I would recommend it for virtually any type or line of work.

For me the operating system was the biggest disappointment with my MacbBook Pro. I didn't find OS X to be any faster, simpler or easier to use than Windows XP/Vista/7. Every time I stumbled upon an OS war I would hear how great the OS X is and after finally getting my hands on it, it was just such a huge let down. I found the hardware side much more impressing. OS X on iPhone, however, is actually fast, simple and easy compared to other mobile OSes.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Saleop on November 25, 2009, 08:46:43 am
Macbooks are definitely high-quality laptops. and if you really wanna use windows all you gotta do is use boot camp to get a dual-boot set-up. I do recommend getting a mouse if you do this, though. my trackpad is very sluggish on windows.

I also recommend getting a pro, if only for the aluminum casing. I have a regular macbook and the polycarbonate casing gets really smudgy after a while and it just doesn't look good.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 25, 2009, 01:20:21 pm
Yeah let me just say that if you do get a regular macbook instead of the pro, think carefully before getting a white one.  I can't speak for other people but mine looks GROSS a lot of the time.  There's a handprint on either side of the trackpad from where I lay my hands while typing and it will not come off with any sort of cleaning I've tried.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: StudioFortress on November 25, 2009, 02:44:10 pm
I'm sure a lot of the love around Macs is justified, however I have always been put off by the price. I bought a new tower a few weeks ago and the closest Mac pro is almost four times the price! To be fair I was comparing my PC to one on the Apple store (I presume non-Apple sellers are cheaper) and the build quality is no where near as good. But still, four times!!!!

My recommendation would be to buy an equivalent or higher end Windows laptop with a spare battery. You also said your not looking for a netbook, but you might be able to get both a standard laptop and a netbook for the same price as mac book pro. This would allow you to have something portable for presentations and something powerful for working.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 25, 2009, 03:06:11 pm
My recommendation would be to buy an equivalent or higher end Windows laptop with a spare battery. You also said your not looking for a netbook, but you might be able to get both a standard laptop and a netbook for the same price as mac book pro. This would allow you to have something portable for presentations and something powerful for working.

i have no idea why anyone would buy both a windows laptop and a netbook to do the exact same things as the macbook pro at the exact same price, if you are put off by the price alone then why would you do this?  you're paying the same thing for the same functionality just broken into two separate pieces
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 25, 2009, 03:15:04 pm
I think if I got the mac I would have to buy the 3 year support thing too because I hear that whilst the build quality is exceptional, the failure rate is pretty high.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 25, 2009, 03:18:48 pm
I've had mine since the summer of 07 and never had anything fail on me.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 25, 2009, 03:22:11 pm
Yes, but they are a bit too pricey to risk it.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 25, 2009, 03:34:14 pm
i have no idea why anyone would buy both a windows laptop and a netbook to do the exact same things as the macbook pro at the exact same price, if you are put off by the price alone then why would you do this?  you're paying the same thing for the same functionality just broken into two separate pieces
Yeah this. Kind of weird logic, StudioFortress.

I've had mine since the summer of 07 and never had anything fail on me.
I know you're just speaking of personal experience... but for the record this is a logical fallacy known as selective observation (http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#selective) and doesn't really help prove anything. Regardless, you're mostly right - a new laptop reliability study found Apple laptops to be the 4th most reliable with a pretty high reliability rate (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/154921).

Quote from: Dada
You know what's also a cult? People who keep talking about how unreasonably biased Mac users are and how you absolutely should never listen to them. Come on man. This is about as old and incorrect as that same Mac cult you yourself describe.
Fuck you I never said this reread my post and try again. I wasn't talking about the average mac user. Hell I myself am an "average mac user" I use them every day all day. I was talking about the cult that goes on message boards preaching about the gospel of the mac. Windows has it's fanboys too I won't deny that (so does Linux) but Mac fanboys are - in my opinion - the most ardent and annoying.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Barack Obama on November 25, 2009, 03:50:45 pm
Yes, but they are a bit too pricey to risk it.
homie, any laptop you buy has a chance of shitting out on you.

My wife rocks the macbook and it's a pretty decent machine. Also for what it's worth I have an old G3 ibook and a G4 aluminum powerbook that I got way back in the day that still work fine running your basic web browser/office routine pretty well and those are pushing a decade.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 25, 2009, 04:30:47 pm
I know you're just speaking of personal experience... but for the record this is a logical fallacy known as selective observation (http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#selective) and doesn't really help prove anything. Regardless, you're mostly right - a new laptop reliability study found Apple laptops to be the 4th most reliable with a pretty high reliability rate (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/154921).

this is the most annoying thing dude, i know about logical fallacies already and i wasn't trying to prove anything concrete i really was just speaking from experience and idk why you would bring any of that up, it is a really annoying thing to do
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Ryan on November 25, 2009, 04:32:23 pm
macbooks are good but theyre terribly overpriced

same with just about any apple product though.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: StudioFortress on November 25, 2009, 05:26:17 pm
i have no idea why anyone would buy both a windows laptop and a netbook to do the exact same things as the macbook pro at the exact same price, if you are put off by the price alone then why would you do this?  you're paying the same thing for the same functionality just broken into two separate pieces
Some people don't mind it but I personally find laptops a hassle to carry around. I own an eee pc and love how small and portable it is. My normal bag containing both my books and my eee takes up less space then the laptop bags of my friends. I know others who rent a locker to store their laptop on campus becuase they don't like carrying it everywhere, again I don't find this an issue. I even have a coat with pockets big enough to fully fit my eee into (although it's far from pocket sized). Finally I find it difficult and uncomfortable to hold laptops with one hand; namely using it whilst walking or standing. Again it's not really an issue with the eee. There are also smaller and thinner netbooks then my eee.

But it's too small and not powerful enough to use as a real main or replacement PC. That's why I was suggesting both a laptop and a netbook. One for when you want ultra portability and one for something more powerful. It's just another alternative I'm putting out there.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 25, 2009, 06:19:48 pm
this is the most annoying thing dude, i know about logical fallacies already and i wasn't trying to prove anything concrete i really was just speaking from experience and idk why you would bring any of that up, it is a really annoying thing to do
Well don't use anecdotal evidence to respond to "whilst the build quality is exceptional, the failure rate is pretty high." The only adequate response to something like that is empirical evidence.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on November 25, 2009, 06:52:40 pm
Well if you walk around with a mac book and someone steals it the loss will be greater than if someone steals your netbook
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 25, 2009, 09:24:40 pm
Well don't use anecdotal evidence to respond to "whilst the build quality is exceptional, the failure rate is pretty high." The only adequate response to something like that is empirical evidence.

I wasn't using that statement to ARGUE A POINT THOUGH and you yourself acknowledged this.  I was just sharing a piece of information.  It's a pretty annoying move to come in and go WELL EXCUSE ME LET ME LIST LOGICAL FALLACIES AS IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF THEM.  It was just an offhanded comment, you didn't have to make such a big deal about it.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 25, 2009, 10:06:10 pm
I kinda interpreted it more as just a *patronizes woman* moment there...
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mama Luigi on November 26, 2009, 03:13:27 am
I wasn't using that statement to ARGUE A POINT THOUGH and you yourself acknowledged this.  I was just sharing a piece of information.  It's a pretty annoying move to come in and go WELL EXCUSE ME LET ME LIST LOGICAL FALLACIES AS IF YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF THEM.  It was just an offhanded comment, you didn't have to make such a big deal about it.

Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 26, 2009, 03:16:31 am
Yeah, there was no need for the compulsive correction though was there? I wasn't born yesterday, neither was she and we can both wipe our own arses.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 26, 2009, 03:19:08 am
Yeah, there was no need for the compulsive correction though was there? I wasn't born yesterday, neither was she and we can both wipe our own arses.

Pretty much this.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: big ass skelly on November 26, 2009, 03:36:06 am
www.List-of-logical-fallacies.org hahah

now now guys! Let's let bygones be bygones! It doesn't matter if vellfire's mac has never broken down or that Mother Luig allegedly hates women. Let's keep a clear head about all thsi
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 26, 2009, 06:11:19 pm
good choice with the 3 year warranty ed, i wish i got it for mine ~_~

also one thing that bothered me when i started using OS X is that i thought there were no hotkeys and it was all clicking. toooooo much clicking. after using it a little, i learned the hotkeys and they're really a great help. you probably know the "alt tab" with apple + tab, but the best and most useful one is -- cycle through windows of the same program with apple + `.  maybe you already knew this, but if anyone doesn't try it!

i also have a side question? does mac still sell those little weird remotes with their computers? they could control itunes, or frontrow whatever that interface is called. good design flaw is that it works on EVERYONE'S COMPUTERS. i used to bring my remote to class, point it at peoples' computers and press play  :fogetlaugh: god, its hilarious.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Vellfire on November 27, 2009, 12:34:22 am
Dude, you can sync the remote to your specific computer.  I learned this my first year of uni because I was tired of accidentally setting off my roommate's itunes (and hearing her awful music).  I'm assuming they still come with the remotes but yeah sync yours with your laptop right away.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 27, 2009, 02:10:49 am
oh, well. looks like not many people knew about the sync!
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on November 27, 2009, 10:41:43 am
build a windows computer for cheaper and install mac OSX on it. seriously.

macs are very high build quality though, so the premium may be worth it. i am really unsure of how much more expensive they are though, so if it's only a 2-3 hundred dollar difference it may be worth it just to get a computer with high quality integrated parts.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: dada on November 27, 2009, 12:42:24 pm
I'm sure a lot of the love around Macs is justified, however I have always been put off by the price. I bought a new tower a few weeks ago and the closest Mac pro is almost four times the price!
Yeah the Mac Pro is known to be extremely expensive and outdated. I'm not sure what they're going to do with it. I wouldn't be surprised if they let go of the design entirely.

By the way to those who want a Netbook: my Compaq/HP Mini 110c runs Mac OS X pretty well.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 27, 2009, 12:51:34 pm
I have a HP Compaq laptop at the moment with a "47Wh battery" which now lasts less than 10 minutes. How long is the battery on one of those netbooks?
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: dada on November 27, 2009, 02:36:31 pm
I have a HP Compaq laptop at the moment with a "47Wh battery" which now lasts less than 10 minutes. How long is the battery on one of those netbooks?
Not very long, couple of hours. 3 and a half I believe, maybe more when not using Wifi. But it's an extremely cheap netbook and you can get one with a higher capacity battery.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: im_so_tired on November 27, 2009, 06:52:29 pm
also ed just to let you know my computer's battery lasts about 3 hours on "better battery life" power setting. it's a 4 yr old macbook pro. not 7 hours, maybe they upgraded the new ones.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on November 27, 2009, 06:58:48 pm
I have first hand experience of seeing a 15" MBP last 7 hours playing music and video as me and my friend tested his new one.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Verne on November 27, 2009, 07:44:30 pm
New MacBook Pros can easily work for 7 to 8 hours, although continuous video/gaming with full brightness will bring it down to 3 to 4 hours.
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Captain Goodluck on December 02, 2009, 11:45:04 pm
build a windows computer for cheaper and install mac OSX on it. seriously.

macs are very high build quality though, so the premium may be worth it. i am really unsure of how much more expensive they are though, so if it's only a 2-3 hundred dollar difference it may be worth it just to get a computer with high quality integrated parts.

Can you really do this and not have Apple shut you down, though? I read that they released an OSX update that shut out Intel Atom, and I was really looking for a way to mess around with the iPhone SDK without buying a Mac, because that's the only thing I'd use it for.

Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 03, 2009, 12:21:07 am
Sounds like apple doesn't want to deal with hardware that is anything other than what they design their os for (because if they did that then osx would be just like... windows)
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on December 03, 2009, 02:33:16 am
uhhhh it's really hard/expensive to build laptops? a good point is that replacement parts are probably easier to come by/cheaper on something more generic

also if you want something feature packed that can show your powerpoint presentations you may want to consider a really nerdy cellphone. probably feel like a twat typing notes on a dinky slide out keyboard though but thought i'd run it by you!
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: Carrion Crow on December 03, 2009, 02:38:24 am
I am going to install OSX on my craptop 6720s to see how I feel about it for a few months : )
Title: Macbook: Is it worth it?
Post by: ATARI on December 03, 2009, 05:47:15 am
my MBP's motherboard died after a year and a half, but once again its not like this means anything towards your future purchase