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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Lyndon on December 17, 2009, 01:18:11 pm
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Ok, everyone in UK will have heard of this and no matter what you think of Rage, this campaign just got fucking awesome.
For those who don't know, a facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=37655682127&ref=ts) has been campaigning for people to buy RATM - Killing in the name this week to over throw Simon Cowell's lasted X Factor triumph from the top spot.
So far Rage is in the lead in download sales, but physical sales of the X factor winner went out yesterday. Simon Cowell has called the campaign 'cynical' and 'stupid'.
Rage are aware of the campaign and made an unforgetable appearance on Radio 5 live haha. Seriously watch it til the end
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I have some... controversial opinions on this let me share them. I am just going to copy and paste what I posted on a friend's Facebook so:
Like, I think it is a neat idea to get something PRETTY CRAZY to number one but like Rage isn't really OBSCURE or HEAVY or controversial or anything. I bet there's a guy SNICKERING to himself because he thought of this plan and he probably doesn't know enough about music to be calling the shots on what would be a hilarious Christmas number one. The same sort of people who think RATM are the HEAVIEST MOST BADDEST thing are the same people who think MUSE are THE MOST CREATIVE AND FAR OUT BAND around.
So yeah good idea, awesome that it's working BUT, yeah. Still not impressed
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its not about getting some crazy to the top. It's just about knocking off X factor that is basically been 100% certain to get number one for the last 5 years. And what better track to break the 'system' than the anti-establishment song 'killing in the name'. and becuase they are a popular band, it stands a better chance of more people buying it.
so yeah, you missed the point
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I don't give a hoot cause who cares what the number one is at any given time let alone christmas but fuck the xfactor
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I like the end of that vid though
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funny irony that both records are on sony
i mean it's not really the point but it made me chuckle
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wow wow chicka chicka wow wow
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haha it made the news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8418158.stm
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yeah this would have been charming if they had picked almost any other song but instead they picked a song that's just going to lead to the same people getting money off of this, money they wouldn't have gotten in the first place since the people doing this wouldn't have bought the original song
so this COULD have been a really nice idea, especially if they had singled out some indie artist or just some other artist that really deserved it but instead this is just GIVING THE PEOPLE YOU HATE MONEY and this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard and all of you should be ashamed of yourselves for participating >
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You're all missing the point. The point is that a song that isn't fucking X Factor is number one for one year and not some stupid horrible manufactured song. The money is irrelevant.
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I read somewhere today (can't find the article now) that Sony that Simon Cowell wont actually make any money from Rage. Whether that's true or not doesn't really matter. This isn't about money, its about the people speaking out saying they dont want X factor as number one.
Also, Rage have said to donate their profits to charity and the group has already raised about £43k for Shelter charity. http://www.justgiving.com/ratm4xmas
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oh no charts that nobody cares about
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You're all missing the point. The point is that a song that isn't fucking X Factor is number one for one year and not some stupid horrible manufactured song. The money is irrelevant.
no, i get that point, but the problem is that you all chose the wrong song to support in its place, if you're going to do this you've got to do it RIGHT. it's like saying "man i don't want meet the spartans to be the number one movie, i'd better go see harold and kumar escape from guantanamo bay"
i read somewhere that the guy who came up with this idea was actually JUST KIDDING and was surprised that it went this far
edit: also yeah
oh no charts that nobody cares about
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man you guys are awful
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I don't even know what X Factor is. but the world would be better off without simon cowell so if everyone wants ratm to kill him I guess I'm ok with that.
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heh heh charts? who fuckin cares. don't do anything, just sit and smirk at the fucking peons as they dance. herh herh herg I'm gonna go listen to some REAL music, thanks
the single was 29p on amazon so i just bought it. this is a funny thing.
i like how annoyed the woman was at the end of that radio show where they swore.
'we told them not to do it, but they did it anyway, so buy joe's record instead.'
heh...maybe you weren't fucking listening, corporate shill. how does that song go again?
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it's like saying "man i don't want meet the spartans to be the number one movie, i'd better go see harold and kumar escape from guantanamo bay"
woah
wait
what
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i was agreeing with you that this is pointless and dumb but rage against the machine is totally balling don't compare them to some stupid stoner movie
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wtf is x-factor
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no idea
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the same as American Idol. I'd be suprised if you dont know who Simon Cowell is
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FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
(do itunes purchases count?)
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
(is it only singles that count or can i buy the album?)
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
(i hope the friends i suggested this facebook group to don't think less of me for it)
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I've never seen X Factor and don't have a radio but I could see why people would want to do something like this. It just seems like sort of a waste that they went for Rage Against The Machine and Killing In The Name Of instead of uh anything else at all really. Grassroots stuff is pretty cool especially if it was really an attempt to get something even vaguely policicized on the air but it just seems like such a humourless, cliqueish choice. Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!! It makes it look less like an attack on manufactured pop and more like some boneheaded cliqueish metalhead thing. Heh, you kids wanna hear some real music? *cranks some Limp Bizkit on stereo at backof bus* 'Pop'......feh. Like I suspect it could be either awful pop or good pop or hiphop or whatever occupying the charts and most of these guys would still just VOTE RATM.
I don't doubt the X-Factor songs are awful and saccharine so practically anything would technically be the lesser of two evils here, and maybe it's just that I don't care for rap-metal at all, but man. KILLING IN THE NAME OF
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yeah, ratm is such terrible soad garbage and to say they're not just as bad as whatever television based manufactured band is fairly shortsighted!!
i think the average 'rage' song has 5 lines repeated in similar patterns
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Tom Morello would like to thank the people of the UK for standing up against the economic inequalities and The War and purchasing Killing In The Name and helping us get to No. 1 this christmas!!!!
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X-factor is ridiculously big here in the UK and you hear about it every day. or you do when you talk to people, and are around them alot. because everyone watches it, despite having nothing but bad things to say about it. i mean it's pretty easy to say ignore it, and i usually do, but when you work in a cafe with a dozen 20 year old students taking 'The Party Don't Start Till I Walk In' with honours, and the radio is on all day, it is at least a break in the DULL GRINDING GREY NOTHING STATIC to hear rage against the machine talking about how they are so happy the UK is getting down with the revolution and toppling X-factor from the throne this X-Mas season.
also, you've got simon cowell accusing people of being cynical out of this.
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at least the name American Idol makes sense, X-factor sounds like a bunch of Rage Against the Machine fan-type guys compete by shooting motorcycles out of a cannon and shooting them mid-air with railguns
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL X FACTOR
or like some celebrity news type thing, TMZ etc.
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it used to be called Pop Idol, but got changed
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hey what would be a better group/artist then ratm for this? I'm trying to think of some that fit...
oh I know
greenday
or how about
paramore
hey guys lets name some bands that we thing would be better
porcupine tree
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Merzbow.
Yeah, I had a discussion with a guy about this and I basically changed my mind except that. Like, I wish it wasn't Rage and was something more terrible. But i still don't care enough about X-Factor to care.
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how can you be this mad at a tv show btw
i mean maybe be mad at FOX NEWS or something but shitty pop singers??? who cares
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how can you be this mad at a tv show btw
i mean maybe be mad at FOX NEWS or something but shitty pop singers??? who cares
The guy I was talking to said that it was GENUINELY UPSETTING music was being degraded and packaged in such a way. And I was like "hey don't let it worry you it's not like it stops good music existing"
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we've had shitty pop singers for years now it's a little late to be complaining about it
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<<stupid pointscoring comment that I think makes me look intelligent wheras it in fact makes me look like I have a chip on my shoulder due to my social inadequacies>>
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how can you be this mad at a tv show btw
i mean maybe be mad at FOX NEWS or something but shitty pop singers??? who cares
think of big bang theory
ok not mad at but there are definitely a lot of shows the world would be better without.
and I can agree about the music scene but that's something I'd care about when I was like 15, now I guess I'm too jaded. there are a lot of worse things about popular culture than boring music and its ranking
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Until they make a new studio album, I am not buying any of this ratm shit. WTF man what happened to them. At least audioslaves gone and rage reunited, but ffs do something new holy shit.
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<<stupid pointscoring comment that I think makes me look intelligent wheras it in fact makes me look like I have a chip on my shoulder due to my social inadequacies>>
I don't know who this is referring to but since it's gotta be someone in this thread and no one has really done anything to warrant an outburst <<listens to limp bizkit, anathema, tool, rush, alkaline trio, blink 182, system of a down, dream theater, metallica, linkin park christ I could really keep going>>
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I love Rage. but I concur with most of you about "Killing in the name of", its probably my least liked song by Rage and I honestly don't understand why its so popular.
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he says the f word a whole bunch
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I think I've developed a skill for completely missing celebrity goss (gossip). Every so often some friend will talk to me about X or Y public figure and I don't have a fucking clue who that is and they're GOBSMACKED that i've not heard of them. Then I have to go on the defensive for like 15 minutes about WHY I haven't heard of this person whoever he is and then I ask what they do and I'm told they're on a tv show I've never heard of which is apparently also remarkable. im a hermit maybe???
edit: what the fuck does this even have to do with this thread, I don't even know where I'm coming from.
edti: oh yeah it's cause I dunno what the xfactor winner looks like or what his song sounds like which is apparently the most extraordinary thing some friend ever heard
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god you guys are fucking idiots. it really doesn't matter what the song is.
but not that it matters by the looks of it noone from england is complaining about the song choice.
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guess again buckeroo there has been a lot of laughter about it
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I think this is pretty cool, because reality tv shows are so prevalent here. You can't walk into a magazine store without seeing no less than about five thousand different pictures of reality tv 'stars'. All of the redtops constantl have this shit as front-page news (mostly due to Murdoch owning most of them and ITV, so he wants to publicise it, like this is also the main reason why all the tabs are really vicious against the BBC when X-Factor is on, the BBC eat into Murdoch's precious audience) and all everybody ever talks about is x-factor. Like that jedwood thing a few weeks ago, I have like 100 friends on facebook yet it was filled with 300 different status messages about jedwood and x-factor.
The music on x-factor isn't just trashy bland pop music, it's far worse than like britney spears or justin timberlake. It's music just growned down to the point where voices don't have anything, the music contains nothing. It is inoffensive tedium. The musical equivalent of sitting in a dentist waiting room.
It's not a case of 'heh, wanna listen to some real music' but more a case of many people being fed up with it. And It's a pretty appropriate choice of song. Popular manufactured rebellion, which is exactly what this is. I don't give a toss about the charts, but I despise what the x-factor represents, so people saying they're fed up with it is cool.
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I think a major issue is that they make so much money out of humiliating people every week and that's just not cool. That whole reality culture must've destroyed so many people.
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I think this is pretty cool, because reality tv shows are so prevalent here. You can't walk into a magazine store without seeing no less than about five thousand different pictures of reality tv 'stars'. All of the redtops constantl have this shit as front-page news (mostly due to Murdoch owning most of them and ITV, so he wants to publicise it, like this is also the main reason why all the tabs are really vicious against the BBC when X-Factor is on, the BBC eat into Murdoch's precious audience) and all everybody ever talks about is x-factor. Like that jedwood thing a few weeks ago, I have like 100 friends on facebook yet it was filled with 300 different status messages about jedwood and x-factor.
The music on x-factor isn't just trashy bland pop music, it's far worse than like britney spears or justin timberlake. It's music just growned down to the point where voices don't have anything, the music contains nothing. It is inoffensive tedium. The musical equivalent of sitting in a dentist waiting room.
It's not a case of 'heh, wanna listen to some real music' but more a case of many people being fed up with it. And It's a pretty appropriate choice of song. Popular manufactured rebellion, which is exactly what this is. I don't give a toss about the charts, but I despise what the x-factor represents, so people saying they're fed up with it is cool.
the thing is that we have the EXACT same thing going on in america and yet we aren't this angry about it
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well we haven't had an ape in charge of our country for 8 years to distract us like you folks have
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edgy political commentary
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8+ years... -_-
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wasn't that Rage Against the Machine song in MATRIX RELOADED or something?? how is it like, FIGHT THE POWER or whatever the point is?
I agree it should've been Merzbow or something like 'this is more enjoyable than shitty pop music'. Or this is good too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeNn_hG-8t4 . Or like a 30-minute loop of a car door closing, something very anti-music
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it is manufactured rebellion. Popular. it's not about getting some unknown or atistic group some exposure, it is using a recognisable symbol of 'rebellion'. Also it has a chance of actually working. merzbow wouldn't. Is it really that hard to get??
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pfft rage against the machine, you guys are such tools, you should be trying to get matoko kawabata's 60 minute rendition of Pink Lady Lemonade in the charts
(pink lady lemonade is awesome spacerock, all should listen, I give it ten out of five fogets)
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let's try and get brainticket's cottonwoodhill in the album charts!!!!!!
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Looks like this is happening. RATM is ahead and is about 6000 units ahead of Joe from X-Factor (I don't have a reference for this except something a friend told me) Looks like this is happening!
Ps - I just want an ironic number 1. Too many people like Rage for this to be something of interest to me.
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oh shit there successful i'm not allowed to like them
fuck the fuck off
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oh shit there successful i'm not allowed to like them
fuck the fuck off
Whoa. I just don't see the fun of something getting to number one that lot's of people like, compared to something else getting to number one that lots of people also like.
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no. you are missing the point. its not about getting RATM to number one, its about not having XFactor get number one. it really doesn't fucking matter what the song is, but there needs to be one that everyone chooses! It just so happens the guy who made the facebook group in the first place decided that killing in the name of would be a good choice, BUT I DONT FUCKING CARE
GAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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I actually bought the X Factor song. I'm such an anarchist
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that everyone chooses
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simon cowel prolly started this whole thing in the first place really, publicity is so easy when you can just do something like this to light up the blogosphere hehehe
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it is manufactured rebellion. Popular. it's not about getting some unknown or atistic group some exposure, it is using a recognisable symbol of 'rebellion'. Also it has a chance of actually working. merzbow wouldn't. Is it really that hard to get??
sorry, I meant Merzbow as like an example of something AWFUL that's still preferable to pop song in some way. If I meant it as 'arty' music I would've picked, I dunno something else
would something meme-y like THE PRICE IS RIGHT theme work better? something incredibly stupid like that? I dunno my sensibility about it would be to see the stupidest possible song on the top of the charts instead of x-factor song. Or like Rick Astley but something actually funny and not Rick Astley? Maybe the macarena makes a comeback
Edit: How much money does RATM stand to make from this
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idk but if you mean what are they gonna gain, nothing besides free advertising because they're donating the profits to charity according to someone earlier in the thread
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sorry I should read
also maybe I'm lumping RATM with stuff like SLIPKNOT etc. I really don't know much about them other than they were some 90's band sort of before my time and was probably really controversial 15 years ago and they were in Matrix movies and stuff and REBELLIOUS but if they're like the good kind of rebellion and not stupid stuff sorry
I still would've perferred an ironic song though
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RATM's profits aren't all the profits by any stretch
also britain has a notorious history of horrible songs topping their charts
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8+ years... -_-
hahahahaha
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interesting fact: the first facebook group was about the original version of don't stop believing
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RATM's profits aren't all the profits by any stretch
also britain has a notorious history of horrible songs topping their charts
yeah basically everyone who actually likes music not in a masochistic way over here has to find bands themselves and share around coz you aint hearing that shit on the radio. its fucking awful :/ i need to move out of this fucking country
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I think its like that in every country
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:(
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Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me.
Motherfucker. Uegh!
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I think this is pretty cool, because reality tv shows are so prevalent here. You can't walk into a magazine store without seeing no less than about five thousand different pictures of reality tv 'stars'. All of the redtops constantl have this shit as front-page news (mostly due to Murdoch owning most of them and ITV, so he wants to publicise it, like this is also the main reason why all the tabs are really vicious against the BBC when X-Factor is on, the BBC eat into Murdoch's precious audience) and all everybody ever talks about is x-factor. Like that jedwood thing a few weeks ago, I have like 100 friends on facebook yet it was filled with 300 different status messages about jedwood and x-factor.
The music on x-factor isn't just trashy bland pop music, it's far worse than like britney spears or justin timberlake. It's music just growned down to the point where voices don't have anything, the music contains nothing. It is inoffensive tedium. The musical equivalent of sitting in a dentist waiting room.
It's not a case of 'heh, wanna listen to some real music' but more a case of many people being fed up with it. And It's a pretty appropriate choice of song. Popular manufactured rebellion, which is exactly what this is. I don't give a toss about the charts, but I despise what the x-factor represents, so people saying they're fed up with it is cool.
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wah wah society wah wah
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the only good thing to come of this campaign is ratm played on teh radio and said fuck 4 times before htey got pulled and it was funny
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and i goatsed like 200 people on twitter :laugh:
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this campaign is also completely driven by todays rockist youth the real shame of society. buy joe mcelderry
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zach de la rocha is the official voice of my generation.
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i cant believe x factor got number one five years in a row! this is unfair!! this isnt what the country wants *forgets that the charts are based on sales which means they represent exactly what the majority of the country wants*
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*forgets most people dont buy music*
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gasp
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*forgets most people dont buy music*
so what youre saying is the reason x factor has been an uncontested winner for 5 years is these very peoples own fault
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No I'm saying, "people don't buy music".
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so what youre saying is the reason x factor has been an uncontested winner for 5 years is these very peoples own fault
its because people dont give enough of a shit about musicians to actually pay for music so the charts are a fraction of the actual music-buying records as illegal downloads are untracable, statistics-wise.
suck on that
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which basically means, yes, its the very people own fault.
because of me x factor has won 5 years in a row
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I think they should just use last fm or something
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pretty sure they're sales charts not popularity charts so that'd be a pretty poor substitute.
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even popularity-wise the #1 is always going to be chart topping pop music, this is one of the few instances where you will ever find something like rage against the machine achieving it
come to terms with pop music and you will be less angry about the whole thing
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of course services like last.fm are skewed towards an audience that doesnt like pop music generally. obviously there are a lot of users that do but its predominantly non-pop
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RATM made it to the Billboard Modern Rock top 10 four times in the 90s. Two of their albums peaked at number 1 in the US. This whole thing that good music - or even better, non-pop music - doesn't chart just isn't true.
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suggesting ratm is good music on gw? ?? how dare you!
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I prefer audioslave.
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This whole thing that good music
learn about subjectivism
edit: this is what i mean about rockist youth being a problem. the outright dismissal of all pop music as 'bad' is a huge problem imo.
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also note that mainstream tastes have changed a LOT since then! while it may have been true when RATM were still relevant, it is definitely not true now
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learn about subjectivism
Learn about taste.
Just browsed through the list of number one albums in the UK since 2005. Of course it includes a lot of shit, but also names like Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys, Gorillaz and Bob Dylan (though I haven't heard that album), all of which happen to be great. And then lots of compilations and not so good albums from great artists of the past, for example David Gilmour and The Prodigy.
Of course you need to have some qualities that appeal to big audiences and there's loads of good music that's never gonna chart, but not all of the music up at number one is shitty or the same.
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And now that I'm in this, what's your guys problem with RATM?
EDIT And who the fuck was it that compared them to Limp Bizkit, Slipknot and whatnot?
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Learn about taste.
Just browsed through the list of number one albums in the UK since 2005. Of course it includes a lot of shit, but also names like Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys, Gorillaz and Bob Dylan (though I haven't heard that album), all of which happen to be great. And then lots of compilations and not so good albums from great artists of the past, for example David Gilmour and The Prodigy.
Of course you need to have some qualities that appeal to big audiences and there's loads of good music that's never gonna chart, but not all of the music up at number one is shitty or the same.
are you aware that you just claimed that almost all number one albums in the UK were shit except the rock albums (and gorillaz who are 'acceptable' because of damon albarn)
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and i would gladly compare RATM to limp bizkit and slipknot. RATMs serious messages are inevitably cheapened by their presentation, for example in killing in the name which is ostensibly a serious commentary on institutional racism utilising the refrain 'fuck you i wont do what you tell me' solely to appeal to a mass audience of rebellious teenagers
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and i would gladly compare RATM to limp bizkit and slipknot. RATMs serious messages are inevitably cheapened by their presentation, for example in killing in the name which is ostensibly a serious commentary on institutional racism utilising the refrain 'fuck you i wont do what you tell me' solely to appeal to a mass audience of rebellious teenagers
this. using the word fuck puts you at the same level as fred durst.
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are you aware that you just claimed that almost all number one albums in the UK were shit except the rock albums (and gorillaz who are 'acceptable' because of damon albarn)
Ummmm, what? If you want to exclude Gilmour and Prodigy, discard Gorillaz (a lot, probably most, of the people who bought Demon Days don't know who Damon Albarn is) and then put Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys and Dylan under 'rock', which for Dylan is untrue and for Radiohead pretty damn stupid (were of course talking about In Rainbows here), I guess you can say whatever you like.
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welcome back dom I missed you for real
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I dunno I think it depends on how you use fuck and how frequently
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I personally think it's cause RATM is kind of dumb and appeals to the masses because they think it's the HEAVIEST BADDEST SHIT AROUND. Metal for people who don't know anything about metal. I often say the same about Prog and Muse but some people who listen to Muse know what they're talking about, but a lot of people don't.
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The first one says RATM sucks because they don't have ideological credibility because they appeal to masses and the second one just skips the ideological part and simply argues that RATM sucks because a lot of people like it. Anyone ever heard of musical value? Stuff like, making good songs, playing them well?
Incidentally RATM is also HEAVIER BADDER SHIT than a lot of metal that's going around. They didn't rely only on having more holes in their amps, but were actually a pretty fucking energetic act.
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its boring. this is boring, why even argue about this? this is meaningless, like who gives a fuck if ratm beats x-factor or vice-versa? this is like arguing over whether them crooked vultures is good music HELL OF A FIGHT BAM. which band is better, muse or oasis? oasis or blur? muse or tcv?
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Ummmm, what? If you want to exclude Gilmour and Prodigy, discard Gorillaz (a lot, probably most, of the people who bought Demon Days don't know who Damon Albarn is) and then put Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys and Dylan under 'rock', which for Dylan is untrue and for Radiohead pretty damn stupid (were of course talking about In Rainbows here), I guess you can say whatever you like.
ahahha what are you talking about, radiohead (yes even in rainbows! the only time radiohead could be argued as not a rock band was during kid a (still pretty rock) and amnesiac (you might be given this one!), every other album is solidly footed in the rock category) and dylan are all rock. i think you need to brush up on your genre categorizations bro.
note that whether or not a gorillaz fan knows who damon albarn is is irrelevent: the critics know who damon albarn is and they are the ones who decide to give bands space in their magazines. if gorillaz wasn't a damon albarn thing they wouldn't be anywhere near as popular.
gilmour is still rock, prodigy are an anomaly and are a holdover from a previous era. pretty much only still popular due to nostalgia.
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welcome back dom I missed you for real
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Well if you make a categorization of classical/jazz&blues/pop&rock/electronic/ethnic then yeah, it's all rock (except possibly for Dylan, I don't know how bluesy that album is). That's just isn't very meaningful. Surprise surprise Zambalatu and Rimsky-Korsakov aren't selling.
More importantly, RATM is definitely as rock as Radiohead, so I don't even know what you're trying to say here. Your idea was that something like RATM is never gonna chart normally, and I don't know if you mean that as non-pop, non-overproduced music or what, but I can't figure anyway that would make sense.
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that stuff only makes the album chart anyway and this is all about the singles chart
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let's not forget that natalie casey singing chick chick chicken as a three year old made it into the UK singles charts in the 80s (it was number 72 but it was still in there)
y'all should just give up now
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and i would gladly compare RATM to limp bizkit and slipknot. RATMs serious messages are inevitably cheapened by their presentation, for example in killing in the name which is ostensibly a serious commentary on institutional racism utilising the refrain 'fuck you i wont do what you tell me' solely to appeal to a mass audience of rebellious teenagers
yeah this I didn't even know they had CAUSES and stuff until I wiki'ed them for this topic
but then again like I said I've only ever heard them passively like in movie trailers and crap, and my brother was into them and I got the impression from him that it was just stuff that appeals to rebellious teenagers and yeah on a surface level it doesn't seem any different than slipknot etc. ok I don't really want to talk about my brother but he's a pretty good example of rebellious just for the sake of rebelliousness, I didn't get any impression that there was a lot of subtext to their music from him
Edit: He's also watched Scarface 286 times (I really have no idea how many times he's seen it but it seems perfectly reasonable)
Edit: But he also wrote like the most amazing book of postmodern sort of short stories and I transcribed it to computer one time I wish I could find it. But yeah that wouldn't really cut it anyway, I'd need to scan it for the full effect because it has all these collages and like one has some dudes from a Levi's commercial and Che Guevara and the Pringle's guy and the word INCOMPREHENSIBILITY in big letters cut out of some magazine. He should concentrate on stuff like this but instead he wants to be Eminem Jr.
Edit: he also thought Tiesto died and I wish I didn't say anything because that would be the only thing that would make Tiesto remotely cool, that all these albums were coming out posthumously like the Tupac of shitty trance music. Yeah it's called In My Memory because TIESTO DIED
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They did it!!!
Excellent
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its not like rage against the machine is a becaon of light in the rock world but you have to be seriously fucking retarded to compare them to slipknot.
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its not like rage against the machine is a becaon of light in the rock world but you have to be seriously fucking retarded to compare them to slipknot.
I really know nothing about them, and yeah I'm exaggerating with the Slipknot thing. I also can't think of some intermediate group to compare them to instead
Edit: I'm not even sure if I've ever actually heard a Slipknot track or if I just made up what their music would sound like based on their image
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It's ok. We will forgive you since you have shown remorse for talking out of your bottom.
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I thought it was pretty obvious that I exaggerate pretty much constantly
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8423340.stm
The last big Christmas battle on a similar scale was between the Spice Girls' Goodbye and South Park character Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls in 1998. The Spice Girls won with 380,000 to their rival's 375,000.
wish somebody had mentioned this, I wouldn't have thought of South Park but I guess people have tried ironic/joke song before?
and whatever pop music is still like the most evil thing in the universe so I'm glad they won
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truly a victory for rockists everywhere
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hey free concert
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It wasn't ironic when it was South Park. It was really topical because that's when the song came out! I should be glad that RATM won because I guess it is the right thing but I'm sad I wasted 99p buying the X-Factor song.
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I like how they expected them to censor a line about not doing what they are told.
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I like how they expected them to censor a line about not doing what they are told.
yeah its not like theyre bound by ofcom or anything
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yeah its not like theyre bound by ofcom or anything
It's not like I'm unaware that they aren't supposed to say "Fuck" on the radio, I just found the reaction funny.
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Hooray! Silly Simon Cowell.
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heh, he thought he could generate millions of dollars in revenue from single sales and television play rights?