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Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 10:31:28 am
I got Fallout 3 AGES ago now.  I played it for quite a while and I found myself not liking it. I can't say why I didn't like it. I just didn't. However in the back of my mind I can't help but feel I really want to enjoy this game. I want to enjoy it so much. Some people have put 100 hours into this game and here I am, wandering around Ten Penny Tower saying "Feh... this game"

I've got the feeling me starting a new game on Fallout 3 is somewhat inevitable. I'm bound to return to it eventually. I still can't stomach the idea of having to sit through the BIRTHDAY PARTY and THE TUNNEL SNAKES all over again because that intro is really really long. But when I do, I'll be out in the wastelands not knowing quite how to have fun.

So, I ask you Gaming World. What is the best way to enjoy this game? I'm just looking for some general advice on what to do, what not to do right at the beginning. You know, maybe some stories on how you started out and what you did. Yeah, I REALLY WANT to like this game (Plus it cost me like £25....)
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 18, 2009, 10:40:23 am
First of all, do you have it for PC or console? If it's PC then get some of the more well known mod packs, but I'm not gonna bother talking about them as you might be on console.

Second, when you do restart and are just about to leave Vault 101, save. Load that save when you make a new character, as at the door you get the chance to change anything about yourself. This trick also worked in Oblivion, and to be honest I think the game makes a permanent autosave at this point anyway, so check your saves, it might be there.

However, that being said, if you don't enjoy the game, you won't like it. Most of the time it's really as simple as that :/. The people who put 100+ hours into it just.. really like it. I like how detailed the game is, how free you feel, and I enjoy making new characters because I get to do things even more efficiently than I did last time. I don't know what to say to help you enjoy a game you don't seem to :|.


Edit: Oh, and what I do straight from Vault 101 is take a trek over to the Junkyard, it's south...east(?) of Minefield. You can see it from Minefield. If you don't know where Minefield is, do Moira's quests in Megaton and she'll lead you there eventually.

Well, I say I go to Junkyard, but I go to Megaton first and unload all my crap, THEN I go to Junkyard. I find the game more fun once exploring Junkyard, but that might just be me. I admit it does make sneaking a lot harder, afterwards.

Oh and also since I play PC version I make all companions essential. They are all too squishy early on in the game, it's no fun seeing Jericho getting blasted away by Regulators 50 times in a row.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Carrion Crow on December 18, 2009, 10:43:18 am
Don't feel you have to adhere to the quests. Just ramble, it's so much more fun that way.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 18, 2009, 10:52:39 am
Don't feel you have to adhere to the quests. Just ramble, it's so much more fun that way.
Oh yeah, and definitely do this. There's no quest for Junkyard. A ton of places have no quest associated with them, and even more only have a quest after you discover them. You'll miss out on a lot of game if you don't freeroam.

Also you yourself are very squishy at the start. One of the most fun things about F3 is that the genre itself seems to change slightly as you level up and better equip yourself - at the start it is almost a stealth/horror game, you are terrified those bandits over there have spotted you, and an encounter with a super mutant might be fatal. Fighting tends to be long distance, either sniping and then running away when you miss or filling them with poison darts and then hiding. But as you get better armour and bigger guns it becomes a full action fest, you tend to stop sneaking altogether and welcome a fight with 10 super mutants, running in with your Power Fists or Super Sledges and smashing them apart.

I like how I barely even noticed the change until I really thought about it.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 10:56:34 am
I've got it on console sadly.

Also I do have an auto save of just outside the vault. So that's a pretty sound piece of advice, thanks. I'm gonna go do this now. Wish me luck and thanks for the advice.

Edit: What's the recommendation on auto-save. I probably don't want it to save every time I jump into a sewer, no?
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: SupremeWarrior on December 18, 2009, 11:03:59 am
I can imagine this game would be better with vehicles! Driving around in a jeep like in fallout 2 would be pretty cool. I also don't think the fallout 3 DLC's are that great either...
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 18, 2009, 11:08:36 am
I can imagine this game would be better with vehicles! Driving around in a jeep like in fallout 2 would be pretty cool. I also don't think the fallout 3 DLC's are that great either...
Point Lookout is pretty awesome, and Broken Steel is pretty essential if you want to keep playing. The other DLCs are forgettable. And there is a mod which adds a driveable motorcycle. The controls are a bit iffy, but you might like it.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 11:10:59 am
12 minutes in. I am having fun!

14 minutes in. Killed by raiders
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Brown on December 18, 2009, 12:25:13 pm
When I first played fallout 3 it was on a friends ps3. He rented it and said that he loved the game cus of the graphics and the free roaming gameplay. He complained to me that the game was crap because as he progressed he moved slower and slower. So then I play his save, me being used to the oblivion controls, and him never playing anything like this before, I check out his items. He has cigarette cartons, tin cans, teddy bears, useless fucking shit. After I told him that items had certain value and use, he gave up on the game.

I've put in almost as much hours to this then I did to morrowind. Right now trying to get all the achievements.

To enjoy this game you'll need patience and a desire to explore for countless hours without realizing it is a waste of time mostly.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 18, 2009, 12:34:06 pm
12 minutes in. I am having fun!

14 minutes in. Killed by raiders
This is why yes, you want it to save every time you "jump into a sewer". The game is largely unpredictable, so it pays to save often unless you don't mind replaying parts.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 12:45:54 pm
Yeah, it's been fun. I'm in Megaton now. I've done a bit more exploring than I did last time. It's all been pretty fun. I'm like one hit away from death, so I guess I'll need to find a bed at some point.

Question about distribution? I've just been piling everything into one thing with each level up. I assume it's better to do it that way because you get better at some things quite quickly than everything really slowly? That's the right thing to do correct?
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 18, 2009, 12:53:00 pm
i level up stuff slowly, balancing out

talking about fo3 i didn't like it at first then got into it, and now with mods i can't stop playing it. Mycurrent character at the moment, I've got it so it's a zombie/gouhl infested wasteland (no normal monsters) which swarm out of nowhere and it's really gr8. Alternate start mod is also cool/useful. Pipboy is now a smartphone. Fellout is useful as is DC interiors and Busworld(allows you to go inside all buses and train carriages in the game). Also the weapons modding mod is really damn cool. Since the summer Ive played FO3 for what must be around 200 hours on different characters, using random mods as I go along. But this zomb/gouhl one is sweet.

I'm offf to make a lego police car. screw you clowns.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Barack Obama on December 18, 2009, 04:50:05 pm
Question about distribution? I've just been piling everything into one thing with each level up. I assume it's better to do it that way because you get better at some things quite quickly than everything really slowly? That's the right thing to do correct?
no. pick two or three things to level up and it also all depends on where you are in the game, certain skills make certain parts a lot easier.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on December 18, 2009, 05:18:02 pm

Question about distribution? I've just been piling everything into one thing with each level up. I assume it's better to do it that way because you get better at some things quite quickly than everything really slowly? That's the right thing to do correct?

Here are my thoughts. Just know that I haven't played the game in almost a year so I may miss a few terms here and there.

I wouldn't suggest putting anything higher than 9 in any stat ( or 8 in the case of str or the other stat perk you get as a reward for completing the ant quest). [Most] Bobbleheads can be found at your leisure and they permanently boost your character (+1 for stats and +10 for skills). As for skills themselves, I wouldn't suggest anything higher than say.. 80. The 10 from the bobble heads are a given but then you have the books (which are everywhere) that add +2 to a specific skill.

As for what to raise first though... I say lock pick and technology (or whatever you need to hack computers, It's been a while for me). You can get by on raising the other skills at your own pace, but neglecting these skills can really slow a game down. Keep any item that buffs/ boosts these skills/ stats temporarily as they may come in handy. You may get addicted to a given drug.. but removing it is a small price to pay considering the amount of time said items save. Just know that the lock/ hack requirements are at 25 level intervals so if the end result of dumping your skill points into said skills comes close but does not reach levels 25,50,75, (or if you ignore the advice above, 100) don't use all of your points in these skills just to come up short: you wont get any more utility value out of them until you level up again so your points are better off being used elseswhere.

Also, there is a perk that lets you increase the amount of points you get per level, get that perk asap. As for maximizing the amount of points even further... an experienced player would start the game with 9 int then make the long fucking run to rivet city to find the int bobble head before they level up again.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Hundley on December 18, 2009, 07:06:17 pm
yeah don't hit the 100 cap for anything early on unless you absolutely need it for something. i ended up doing that with a bunch of them and getting bobblehead/books and wasting so many points that could have gone elsewhere.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: FrostyPink on December 18, 2009, 07:10:13 pm
Yeah, it's been fun. I'm in Megaton now. I've done a bit more exploring than I did last time. It's all been pretty fun. I'm like one hit away from death, so I guess I'll need to find a bed at some point.

Question about distribution? I've just been piling everything into one thing with each level up. I assume it's better to do it that way because you get better at some things quite quickly than everything really slowly? That's the right thing to do correct?
btw, early on in the game, before you have a house it's best to just drink radiated water (sinks are always the safest bet) and then use any RadAways you found on your travels. Let's you heal up anywhere and I think it saves money in the long run.

And pretty much what Coke said, pick two or three. You should always level up something that lets you get by places (science, lockpicking, sneaking or speech) as well as a combat skill. just don't be dumb and specialise in sneaking and big guns ffs
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 08:40:31 pm
Getting there. I guess I'm going into it as the exploration is something to be excited about. I'm taking it all in a bit more and trying to notice it. Yeah, enjoying it a lot more this second time round. We like it.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 18, 2009, 10:15:17 pm
I must say the most fun thing about Fallout 3 for me was definately the exploration aspect of it. What I tended to do was be running towards a quest, look at my compass and I would see a location that I hadn't found yet, so I'd run over to it and explore. Then I would see another unexplored location on the compass, so I would go over to that. Suddenly, three hours later and I'm not further in the quest than I already was.

It's just a really cool game for exploration, I love it. Planning on buying the GOTY Edition off of Steam because I don't want to individually buy the DLCs.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 18, 2009, 10:39:40 pm
I also found it a bit hard to enjoy at first because it is pretty glitchy but then I just kept wanting to explore and do all of the quests so that was what made it enjoyable for me. I've found like 95% of the locations and done all of the major sidequests/normal quests now. Just starting the broken steel add-on.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 18, 2009, 11:52:36 pm
I am in the scrapyard. I repeat I am in the scrapyard. I am EXCITED about this.

Edit: Oh man. I have a pet dog!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 19, 2009, 01:43:17 am
Hooray!

I am just sorry you are on a console and he'll probably die. Boo!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: jamie on December 19, 2009, 01:48:01 am
i liked to get drunk and play this game sometimes. i sold it all because it was bad for me but i liked to wander around and look at the desolation when i was up at 5am drunk and eating someone else's pasta from the fridge.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ragnar on December 19, 2009, 03:26:33 am
how big is this game exactly

like I hear of huge games like Morrowind, is there any way I can see without playing it. Like a time-lapse youtube video where somebody goes from one end of the world to the other

Edit: like a literal "walkthrough" of the game lolol
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Rowain on December 19, 2009, 03:48:06 am
The Wasteland isn't actually all that huge, at least it feels smaller than Oblivion/Morrowind because there's a lot less variation in terrain and feel, but it's still huge in the sense that there is a shit load of stuff to explore and discover, and getting around without fast travel definitely takes awhile. I bet you could cross the map in like 15 minutes tho if you could just walk straight without hitting anything.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Sarhan on December 19, 2009, 07:13:33 am
i liked to get drunk and play this game sometimes. i sold it all because it was bad for me but i liked to wander around and look at the desolation when i was up at 5am drunk and eating someone else's pasta from the fridge.

This. I made my character Obama and I'd hang out with two of my friends and we'd just hang out, take turns playing, and drink beer.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: FrostyPink on December 19, 2009, 11:23:15 am
Hooray!

I am just sorry you are on a console and he'll probably die. Boo!
and if he gives a shit about him, he can just get the puppies perk from broken steel! Woo!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 19, 2009, 11:30:35 am
I am not getting a DLC just to keep my dog alive. I'm really anxious about taking him to minefield though. Man, I just wanna thank you guys for helping me realise how fun this game is. Last time, I played it in third person and was a black man. This time I am a white man in first person, so it's a lot more realistic. I can relate to that a bit more.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: FrostyPink on December 19, 2009, 12:41:30 pm
that's the DLC that pretty much completes the game though, so i totaaaaally advise getting it if you finish the main quest and enjoyed it
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 20, 2009, 12:31:16 am
that's the DLC that pretty much completes the game though, so i totaaaaally advise getting it if you finish the main quest and enjoyed it
It lets you continue the game after you finish, too, so it's definetly worth it.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ragnar on December 20, 2009, 01:57:52 am
Last time, I played it in third person and was a black man. This time I am a white man in first person, so it's a lot more realistic. I can relate to that a bit more.

haha what
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 20, 2009, 09:13:38 am
Well, i thought I'd find exploration a little bit easier in third person. I quite like the third person so I guess that struck a chord with me! And I went through this phase of "If I have to be a nerdy white kid in my work time why would I do that in my leisure time as well?" so I made black characters in every single game I had. But this time I've tried the first person for IMMERSION purposes and am white because maybe I can relate to myself a little bit more. MY LIFE IS A WHITE MAN IN FIRST PERSON AND NOW IS FALLOUT 3, THE LINES BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY HAVE BLURRED.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 20, 2009, 09:36:53 am
The Broken Steel add-on is fucking annoying by the way, its so glitchy. I couldn't load and every time I died I had to turn my console off to re-load my save. I think turning the radio off helps.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 20, 2009, 10:55:11 am
I bet you could cross the map in like 15 minutes tho if you could just walk straight without hitting anything.

Yeah but that would never happen, you'd get distracted pretty easily.

I might go to Rivet City and see how long it takes to walk the distance to the opposite corner.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 20, 2009, 12:19:03 pm
The Broken Steel add-on is fucking annoying by the way, its so glitchy. I couldn't load and every time I died I had to turn my console off to re-load my save. I think turning the radio off helps.
It's sad, I love the radio but I have the PC version and it actually causes 50% of my crashes. It's so sad playing it in silence but it's either that or crashing every time the song changes :/.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 20, 2009, 07:42:17 pm
or you could just listen to regular music on your computer.  that is what i do in 99% of the games that i play anyways because video game soundtracks are boring
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: FrostyPink on December 20, 2009, 08:38:26 pm
or you could just listen to regular music on your computer.  that is what i do in 99% of the games that i play anyways because video game soundtracks are boring
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 20, 2009, 09:42:38 pm
It's sad, I love the radio but I have the PC version and it actually causes 50% of my crashes. It's so sad playing it in silence but it's either that or crashing every time the song changes :/.

I just downloaded the Galaxy Radio soundtrack and listen to that in the background, mainly because I hate the out of signal quietness of the radio at the beginning of the game. Though I do end up missing out on the other radio things.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: hero_bash on December 20, 2009, 11:29:05 pm
Just womndering. what difficulty did you people started playing FO on. I find it pretty hard so I hit easy
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: hobomasterxxx on December 21, 2009, 12:00:31 am
Just womndering. what difficulty did you people started playing FO on. I find it pretty hard so I hit easy
I started it on Medium and adjusted as neccescary.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 21, 2009, 12:34:37 am
I just downloaded the Galaxy Radio soundtrack and listen to that in the background, mainly because I hate the out of signal quietness of the radio at the beginning of the game. Though I do end up missing out on the other radio things.
Yeah, the music is cool but I like the whole RADIO EXPERIENCE even if 3dog's stuff is pretty repetetive. Alas!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 21, 2009, 01:44:08 am
Quote
Yeah, the music is cool but I like the whole RADIO EXPERIENCE even if 3dog's stuff is pretty repetetive. Alas!
i like to be a tool!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 21, 2009, 01:44:22 am
 aha a ha a fuck you new page
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 21, 2009, 03:59:43 am
Nah the radio experience is a pretty cool part of the game.

summarey: eat a dick
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Eltee on December 21, 2009, 04:06:30 am
i only listened to the enclave


sweet american patriotism

the songs are actually burnt into my soul







its mostly because i didnt get far enough to have 3dogs radio station work well


because its a shit boring game
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 21, 2009, 04:26:10 am
maybe you just suck at games
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Eltee on December 21, 2009, 04:45:57 am
do you even know who you're talking to






im the authority on games
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 21, 2009, 05:08:37 am
you're right


praise b
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 21, 2009, 09:35:01 am
Shut up ATARI no-one asked you.

I never listen to music while I game. i just think it takes something away from the experience. Fallout 3 doesn't have much music for a reason. Unless like, I could find some music that sounds like the end of the world. (MONO & World's End Girlfriend collab'd and it sounded like the end of the world maybe I'll try that)
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 21, 2009, 11:16:13 am
No, man, seriously, try listening to GNR when you get the signal back. It really adds so much atmosphere to the game. Sneaking around OR having a huge gun fight to random 50s happy-go-lucky tracks is so awesome. It really is.


edittte: in fact, i believe bethesda games are meant to be played with music - both morrowind and oblivion had very fitting orchestral soundtracks, but fo3 is missing that in lieu of the radio system.

i admit its fun to roam around a creepy cave in silence, but at the same time it's also fun to be hiding from extremely high level super mutants while listening to bing crosby's way back home.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Hundley on December 21, 2009, 11:23:10 am
Shut up ATARI no-one asked you.

I never listen to music while I game. i just think it takes something away from the experience. Fallout 3 doesn't have much music for a reason. Unless like, I could find some music that sounds like the end of the world. (MONO & World's End Girlfriend collab'd and it sounded like the end of the world maybe I'll try that)
i think the music that 3dog plays is a really good soundtrack for the game. it's not as emotionally fitting as mark morgan's original soundtrack was for the first two, but most of the songs are ironically appropriate much in the same way the intro songs to the first fallout games were. it can get a little tiresome listening to that, particularly if you have no tolerance whatsoever for 40s pop music, but i found that it very often added to the experience of the game.

it's really ridiculous how appropriate jack shaindlin's i'm tickled pink (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJY-JPjRXA) is for a heavy gunfight against a dozen supermutants. a couple songs in the 3dog music collection are particularly appropriate when you're doing certain things or are in particular places in the game, i think. i didn't keep it on all the time(brain explode) but i found myself periodically checking to see what he had playing during sections where i knew certain songs would be oddly appropriate. i really fucking hated that danny kaye song about the jungle and left it off a lot just to avoid hearing that song. actually i just fucking hate danny kaye anyway. what a cunt.

i should mention that all this was doubly the case for me because the first thing i did in the game was kill burke and wear his clothes around the remainder of the game. the game really felt like it took place in the apocalyptic 40s for my playthrough of the game.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Hundley on December 21, 2009, 11:28:48 am
man i gotta get my fallout 3 copy back from my deadbeat friend who has been borrowing it for six months
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 21, 2009, 10:10:59 pm
Man, I played this again today and I've been having a lot of fun. I don't know how I missed out on so much stuff last time. It's quite weird. I'm really interested in Oblivion now as well. It looks a lot more interesting scenery and exploration wise, how does it play?
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Buttkiller on December 21, 2009, 10:33:56 pm
oblivion is really boring and bad compared to fallout. it's okay but exploration is like whoa stupid as hell and there's literally no challenge at all in the game and the rewards you get from treasure suck and the creatures are boring and its just kind of shit
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 21, 2009, 11:03:18 pm
oblivion has dated horribly, the main quest where you have to enter those 10000 portals is fucking annoying. I did finish the game and the two add-ons though.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: thecatamites on December 21, 2009, 11:12:24 pm
I kinda liked Oblivion in spite of itself. In retrospect nothing about it was particularly interesting or well done at all except maybe the graphics but it was pretty fun leaving the sewer for the first time and just heading in some random direction and ending up fighting VAMP CHIEFTAIN for Vakil Orbs or whatever. I haven't played Fallout but I imagine Oblivion doesn't hold up too well if you're already used to that kind of open-world sandbox stuff.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 22, 2009, 12:49:08 am
aye, oblivion is to fallout what.. some.. game's really old dated predecessor is to it. re1 to re4+, i guess. it works, it's playable, it might even be fun, but it sure is hella old and dated now.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Buttkiller on December 22, 2009, 12:59:12 am
i'm playing fallout 3 right now and i really really hate how the movement works. like everything is kinda floaty, you get stuck on little things, you can pretty much walk/jump up mountains if you get it at the right angle. it's a little better than in oblivion but how can bethesda not have realized how shitty this makes everything feel

*walks over a rock and flies 5 feet in the air taking 3 seconds to reach the ground again*
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Eltee on December 22, 2009, 04:08:10 am
that's elder scrolls for you
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 22, 2009, 12:34:05 pm
I found a fucking sweet mod earlier today that adds iron sights along with a mod that gives you the ability to sprint, which was one thing that annoyed me on my first play through of Fallout 3 was that I had to run at such a slow speed.

This really has no connection to the current topic apart from FALLOUT 3 and that someone was complaining about the movement in game, which the sprint helps quite a bit with. . .
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 22, 2009, 02:15:00 pm
the sprint mod actually makes the problems dom was talking about much worse/funnier. sprint off a tiny rock and you rocket several feet into the air!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Rajew on December 22, 2009, 03:49:19 pm
i thought dom was bretly whaaa???
hey i always played fallout without music but since I read this thread I decided to put on GNR and let me tell you my experience is ENHAAAAANCED. Also my roommate just happens to default listen to 1940's/50's pop music like that so I don't even need the radio on sometimes (which would be a plus if radio affected stealth or something)
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on December 22, 2009, 05:41:31 pm
the sprint mod actually makes the problems dom was talking about much worse/funnier. sprint off a tiny rock and you rocket several feet into the air!

This was best displayed in Oblivion. With enough agility or w/e you can run, jump twenty feet out, turn around, then reach the area you lept off of.... all in just over a second.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: jamie on December 22, 2009, 09:37:40 pm
This was best displayed in Oblivion. With enough agility or w/e you can run, jump twenty feet out, turn around, then reach the area you lept off of.... all in just over a second.

that is super cool.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 24, 2009, 12:28:28 pm
The radio has improved my experience. Thanks for that bit of advice.

Also my dog died :(
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 24, 2009, 05:31:04 pm
i think if the dog dies you can go back to the scrapyard and get him again.   or maybe not, but at least check there because i remember there is at least a way to get him back in some form if you lose him
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 24, 2009, 06:35:27 pm
if you have broken steel, you can get the [puppies perk which gives you new dog
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 24, 2009, 07:17:01 pm
Yeah I died shortly after so when I reloaded I had him again. All is fine. Did some quest involving vampires. What the shrek was that about? that thing was the gayest
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 24, 2009, 07:27:33 pm
that part is so bad it's not even funny, I tend to ignore it/kill them all
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 24, 2009, 08:36:23 pm
haha yeah that part is terrible imo
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 24, 2009, 08:56:07 pm
that's the twilight fandom in 5 years though, and we all know it.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on December 24, 2009, 09:01:02 pm
The only reason I put up with them is because I like to have the shiskebab early on. After you get the schematics you can jack a premade one from the leader and never have to see them again.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 24, 2009, 11:37:41 pm
i think if the dog dies you can go back to the scrapyard and get him again. or maybe not, but at least check there because i remember there is at least a way to get him back in some form if you lose him

Without Broken Steel, if Dogmeat's dead, Dogmeat's dead. The end.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on December 25, 2009, 03:04:39 am
man i gotta get my fallout 3 copy back from my deadbeat friend who has been borrowing it for six months

it really surprises me that you play/enjoy any video games tbh

anyhow are there any mods which populate towns with more people / revamp the awful bethesda dialogue?? i know i can make the rest of the game ok with rebalancing mods
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 25, 2009, 03:26:57 am
check fallout3nexus
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 25, 2009, 04:37:33 pm
there's loads of atmospheric mods out there that make the game prettymuch how it should look (fellout and working street lamps for example make the game look unbelievably cool). fallout3nexus is gr8.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: yugi on December 25, 2009, 04:44:21 pm
There is only one way to play Fallout 3. No weapons, no armor, no items, no companions, fists only. Mother fucking Fist of the North Star style.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on December 25, 2009, 04:46:03 pm
I actually did that in one of my play throughs. Knocking enemies unconscious with your fists never gets old.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 25, 2009, 07:12:58 pm
there must be a Haduken mod somewhere, if not surely some gw'ers can make one...
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 25, 2009, 07:13:43 pm
wait, that would first require recreating all of FO3 on rm2k to add that one feature. Where's S4D when we need him???
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: DoctorEars on December 25, 2009, 11:52:12 pm
If you're looking for some sweet mods, go get the Fallout Script Extender (FOSE) and then go get FWE (Fallout Wanderer's Edition), it gives you some really nice rebalancing things, making the game harder and survival is more important. I also use the IronSights mod, which is pretty sweet. The mods Kaworu recommended: Fellout and Fallout Street Lights are fucking amazing and must have mods. Also if you don't already have it, get the FalloutModManager, which you need usually for most mods.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Eltee on December 26, 2009, 04:12:47 am
it's such an hassle getting all the top end mods working


this and oblivion

ugh
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Soup Demon on December 26, 2009, 04:48:14 am
Well, I have actively ignored fallout for what and unholy timesink it was, but here is what I will reccomend:

Have 2 planned fighting skills and max them asap, also the repair skill. Small guns and *something else* is a good beginner route. The main plot gets washed out kind quick, but there are some sweet moments (nuking megaton, for example) and some interesting consequences to observe (not nuking megaton, for example). Be ready to discover a bunch of shit you fucked up on, and perks that are no longer useful to you causing you to start over.

Once the man plot strings have gotten you accustomed to a good portion of the world, just pick a direction and start walking. You will always find something cool. Sometimes there aren't even quests involved, but you just end up finding cool shit. Also if you plan on nuking megaton, make sure you've milked it for the quests and such first.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: cowardknower on December 26, 2009, 05:50:29 am
you can't enjoy it because it isn't good.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Buttkiller on December 26, 2009, 05:51:27 am
repair is bullshit, get speecbh and stay neutral and get the thing that gives you +30 to speech when you'ren eutral and you'll be unstoppable
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 26, 2009, 09:09:35 am
it's such an hassle getting all the top end mods working


this and oblivion

ugh
install fallout mod manager

install fose

download all the big mods

unrar them into /data/

open mod manager

click "play"


probably the most time consuming step is downloading them because the biggest mods are like 400 mb
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 26, 2009, 10:30:36 am
Yeah, I'm basically milking Megaton for quests at the moment because I plan on killing everyone in there. It's not that I'm malicious or anything it's just I was bullied into it by older boys. I just want... everyone to die happy...
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Eltee on December 26, 2009, 04:26:50 pm
install fallout mod manager

install fose

download all the big mods

unrar them into /data/

open mod manager

click "play"


probably the most time consuming step is downloading them because the biggest mods are like 400 mb



you have to reorder the big mods, enable certain components in the right order, etc etc

otherwise it just doesn't work

you spend an hour checking up compatibility between mods


i fucking hate it
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Jester on December 26, 2009, 05:12:53 pm
you musta got some weird mods.

all i remember is making sure the ESMs were first, and the rest of MMM was last :x
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Carrion Crow on December 26, 2009, 05:58:07 pm
Yeah, I'm basically milking Megaton for quests at the moment because I plan on killing everyone in there. It's not that I'm malicious or anything it's just I was bullied into it by older boys. I just want... everyone to die happy...

This is harder than it sounds!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 26, 2009, 08:39:27 pm
FO3 is only good when roleplaying imo. playing it AS A GAME is really terrible and bland. I also tried playing as a raider (thanks mods) and attackiomng people with raider buddies but it's so bad without the kind of TRADING and interaction.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Carrion Crow on December 26, 2009, 08:53:22 pm
Yeah the stealth aspect of the game could've been made a little better. Instead of just being hidden, caution and danger. Silly dat.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Buttkiller on December 26, 2009, 09:13:42 pm
FO3 is only good when roleplaying imo. playing it AS A GAME is really terrible and bland. I also tried playing as a raider (thanks mods) and attackiomng people with raider buddies but it's so bad without the kind of TRADING and interaction.

i thought that was the point of rpgs? most rpgs would be terrible if you couldn't really BECOME THE CHARACTER
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 26, 2009, 09:20:35 pm
i just put mods in willy-nilly and never had any problems. 
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: bonzi_buddy on December 26, 2009, 09:22:35 pm
i thought that was the point of rpgs? most rpgs would be terrible if you couldn't really BECOME THE CHARACTER
here's a gaming joke: Khelben 'BLACK STAFF' Arunsun.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Kaworu on December 26, 2009, 09:42:11 pm
i thought that was the point of rpgs? most rpgs would be terrible if you couldn't really BECOME THE CHARACTER
I think FO3 is really one that you HAVE TO. Most RPGs are pretty linear and can be fun on the value of GAMES (for example KOTOR and Mass Effect are great at being games, and i think ME really works well for the medium) but you take away that aspect of FO3 and it's really terrible. If you're just playing it for completion and whatnot it really really sucks.
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Brown on December 26, 2009, 10:17:18 pm
This is harder than it sounds!

on the contrary, this is pretty easy. The MEGATON BOMB, which is very beautiful to view getting blown up from afar (tenpenny tower), leaves a lot of radiation.

Trust me, the above is far from a spoiler, the actual destruction of megaton and it's peeps is awesome!
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: ATARI on December 26, 2009, 11:19:24 pm
i think ed was thinking you meant going around and killing everyone in the town individually.  i've done this on random saved games just to see if i could and it can be pretty tough iirc
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Buttkiller on December 26, 2009, 11:26:14 pm
I think FO3 is really one that you HAVE TO. Most RPGs are pretty linear and can be fun on the value of GAMES (for example KOTOR and Mass Effect are great at being games, and i think ME really works well for the medium) but you take away that aspect of FO3 and it's really terrible. If you're just playing it for completion and whatnot it really really sucks.

KOTOR and mass effect have good gameplay but not as good as actual action or shooting games. they're a little bit less smooth or less polished or whatever and you spend more time doing stupid shit like sorting through your inventory so you do kinda need to get into the character. or at least i did. that seemed like it was the point of the whole good/evil dialogue choices and all that so you can make your own character to be fully immersed in THIS GUY??? idk i am really bad at making sentences right now but maybe you can see what i mean

also this only applies to fairly open-ended western rpgs that give you soem kind of choice and character customization to an extent. it's a little harder to get immersed in being an anime dude which is why jrpgs don't really have any effect on me
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Bumblebee man on December 27, 2009, 12:12:02 am
yeah i was talking about the bomb but i thought ed meant "it is harder to do all the quests" so i was like "what the hell are you talking about brown" lmao
Title: Tell me how to enjoy Fallout 3
Post by: Brown on December 28, 2009, 06:02:20 am
i think ed was thinking you meant going around and killing everyone in the town individually.  i've done this on random saved games just to see if i could and it can be pretty tough iirc

Ah yeah I had a lot of fun with that (although you dont really gain much except for some weapons/ misc items and badass karma). The stealth suit really helped me (from operation anchorage) as I would just run to an empty place, crouch and i'd be hidden, then unleash fury upon 3-4 different people it VATS mode. good times.