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Title: HOW DO I GET GOOD AT STREET FIGHTER 4
Post by: ThugTears666 on January 19, 2010, 10:58:52 pm
I swear this is the fucking hardest game in the world, I can't even get past the third stage. I've learnt the combos but I never have enough time to do them anyway.

HOW DID YOU GET BETTER?
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Post by: mkkmypet on January 19, 2010, 11:04:54 pm
it's so much easier to do combos with an arcade joystick. my brother got this one (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001M22WN8/ref=asc_df_B001M22WN8994674?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B001M22WN8) for Christmas from his girlfriend and he loves it. if you're really into street fighter and other arcade-style games then you might want to consider getting one of those, but otherwise you just need to toughen up i guess?? just read FAQs online and stuff and practice a lot. it's worth it.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 19, 2010, 11:09:25 pm
I don't really want to buy an arcade stick just to play one game.
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Post by: Bumblebee man on January 19, 2010, 11:14:14 pm
kick punch it's all in the mind
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Post by: Carrion Crow on January 19, 2010, 11:15:58 pm
if you wanna test me I'm sure you'll find
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Post by: c0nfu53d on January 19, 2010, 11:25:24 pm
Just send me £9999999999999 and i'll send you a super SSF4 guide! Ok seeing as your a fellow gw'er and give it to you for free.

1 PRACTISE
2 PRACTISE
3 Get a arcade stice or decent pad
4 PRACTISE
5 Give up your social life
6 PRACTISE

Have I mentioned practice?
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 19, 2010, 11:28:53 pm
fuck this game is much much much much harder than tekken, tekken you just memorize combos
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Post by: ase on January 19, 2010, 11:32:05 pm
i challenge you to being worse at street fighter 4
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 19, 2010, 11:33:54 pm
haha do you have ps3
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Post by: ase on January 19, 2010, 11:37:02 pm
nah, my roommate has it for xbox360.

i. fuckin. suck
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 19, 2010, 11:37:50 pm
I'm not bad at fighting games either, few people beat me at tekken but this game is just button mashing craziness or something I swear
Title: HOW DO I GET GOOD AT STREET FIGHTER 4
Post by: Brown on January 19, 2010, 11:48:12 pm
the problem with sf4 is that not only do you have to memorize combos, but you have to memorize the timing of the combos. sort of like parrying in 3rd strike. Also you dont need an arcade stick to become good at sf4. just play with the d pad rather than the stick and it should make it easier for you. Also [] + X lets you grab, this helps a lot if you are being overwhelmed by the enemy (albeit cheap). your focus move, /\ + (), if timed right, can stun an enemy and even gain you back a little health. Its basically a parry, but a more concentrated and charged parry. It's also useful if you're just being bombarded with attacks and have no chance of attacking back.

If you're playing against CPU and want to be cheap as hell, use only the Hard Kick + Punch buttons to fight. Low kicks are cheap too you can get away with dealing a lot of damage just by repetition.

I hope this helps and good luck beating seth!
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Post by: Vellfire on January 20, 2010, 12:02:53 am
yeah it is a bit too obvious but PRACTICE is really the best advice man, i am still not that good at it but i'm a lot better than when i started

also we were talking about this in that other thread some but you can use an arcade stick with your pc so it doesn't have to be just for one game
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Post by: Aten on January 20, 2010, 12:25:56 am
Street Fighter 4 is an utterly retarded game, I barely managed to beat the "character boss" (it was sagat for ryu), but then THE FINAL BOSS. God, the final boss. And this was on easy.

Tekken forever.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on January 20, 2010, 12:46:33 am
start at street fighter 1 and work your way up
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Post by: Vellfire on January 20, 2010, 01:48:09 am
start at street fighter 1 and work your way up

jesus don't play street fighter 1 ever
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 20, 2010, 01:52:37 am
my asian friend is pro
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 20, 2010, 01:53:07 am
*all asian friends are pro
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Post by: Buttkiller on January 20, 2010, 02:46:17 am
where do you guys eget your asian freidns
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Post by: Vellfire on January 20, 2010, 02:57:18 am
where do you guys eget your asian freidns

import them from china
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Post by: Hundley on January 20, 2010, 03:20:19 am
street fighter 4 is more important than money or family
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Post by: King of Spooks on January 20, 2010, 03:56:09 am
put it on easiest with 1 round and be any charachert and crouch kick, move foward, repeat until opponent's death. Get charas. hehe and beat seth.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 20, 2010, 04:12:33 am
but that's very gay and I'D RATHER play properly
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Post by: Brown on January 20, 2010, 04:21:03 am
if you'd rather play properly dont complain about difficulty.

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Post by: FrostyPink on January 20, 2010, 04:28:25 am
man up you sissy
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Post by: Sapsuker on January 20, 2010, 06:24:21 am
i...i'm an asian friend

and i suck
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Post by: dragonx on January 20, 2010, 06:29:32 am
F.A.D.C.

thats all you need man, focus attack dash cancel, and use ken, 100% win
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Post by: Grogrog on January 20, 2010, 06:48:32 am
It's not that hard, just about learning techniques one at a time and implementing them into your play. Stuff like combos, links, cancels, tick throws, cross-ups. Street Fighter IV is pretty shitty single player. If you want to get legitimately better play online. Lots of people suck there too and you're likely to get better.

If you button mash in SFIV good fucking luck buddy.

I should also say combos don't necessarily play a big part in the game, as in they are not necessary to win. All you really need is one good bread and butter combo which isn't that hard to do for most characters and use it when you see an opportunity to punish.
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Post by: Tweaked_1551 on January 20, 2010, 07:37:55 am
I'm not that good at SF4 but I've been reading a lot of online strategies and practicing for a good bit also have been playing the SF series since well SF II.

Basically SF4 is all about zoning, poking, hit confirming, and controlling the flow of battle. Learning combos is fine and well but if you can't set them up or bait out a whiff attack then it's pointless.

Try watching a lot of videos of top ranking players (ex: daigo, justin wong, poongko); practice your execution of your character's Bread & Butter combos, super flashy combos help with your execution but most of them are very situational and require a large amount of gauge; play a wide variety of characters so you know how they work and how to counter attack; learn the character specific tendencies so you can predict what will be thrown at you (not every character will be the played the same but every character has a specific move set); don't rely on special attacks only-basic attacks can be just as deadly; put your theories to practice (play some people); avoid jumping in unless you're sure your attack will connect; NEVER use throw to punish a whiff attack, combos do more damage; learn which of your character's attack is the most safe for poking. Just a few basic tips, oh and practice hundreds of hours and you'll eventually be pro at the game.

I recommend Eventhubs.com a lot of useful information there.

Btw if you're a ken user this is all you need: http://www.halolz.com/2009/03/02/ken-flowchart/
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Post by: King of Spooks on January 20, 2010, 08:27:54 am
its not the type of game I feel dedicated to "get good" at.
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Post by: Ciox on January 20, 2010, 08:32:43 am
There's not much of a shortcut and you'll just have to play but most of the time you'll want to do this:

- jump in with a kick from the air trying not to get hit by them on the way down, as soon as you land do a normal punch/kick and try to cancel that into a special move if you can
- from a small distance cancel a crouching low/medium kick into a normal, this is good because they can only block it from a crouch
- focus attack charged all the way, if it hits dash forward (-> ->) and punch/kick into special move
- generic uppercut move if you have one if you see them jumping in or they won't get off you

i really suggest learning ryu because he can do all those things with excellence and you can figure out all the other characters from there

holla


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its not the type of game I feel dedicated to "get good" at.

actually it doesn't take that long and it gets fun pretty soon, beats grinding anyday imo.
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Post by: Sludgelord on January 20, 2010, 08:40:45 am
A couple years ago I was sort of good at SFA3. Sort of good means that when I went to an arcade and lost, it looked like I might have been trying and just had an unlucky game. I only went to an arcade once, but I think the people there thought I might have been okay. I don't know. I played as Balrog and Rolento. Rolento was pretty cool because he would zoom across the screen and people would think you're really good because you're going all over the place at light speed but really you're just hitting buttons and doing his basic moves. I liked him because one of his specials was a 13 hit combo and I always felt like a badass whenever 13 HIT COMBO popped up on the screen even though I only pressed like 3 buttons. I think he might have been the fastest dude in the game, faster than Guy and Vega. I don't really know, but I know they're adding Guy to SF4. I wish they added some really crazy characters like that corpulent guy in Tekken or Q or Hugo instead of Adon and DeeJay, who both have the worst character designs ever. Nobody will play either of them. I guess the moral of the story is that you should have played Street Fighter 2 like 15 years ago.

Basically SF4 is all about zoning, poking, hit confirming, and controlling the flow of battle. Learning combos is fine and well but if you can't set them up or bait out a whiff attack then it's pointless.
I wish the game wasn't like this. I mean I've never played it and I don't really play fighting games but I wish it was a game where you just run up to a dude and start beating the shit out of him. I mean obviously there is strategy and everything, but waiting for your opponent to make a move and baiting and all of that shit is so boring and technical. Fighting games should be this visceral experience where you just go in there and shut off your brain except for the parts that immediately relate to punching a guy and what you're going to do after you punch the guy. I don't know if there are any games like this, there probably are, but I kind of doubt they have characters or moves that are as interesting as Street Fighter.

I don't know anything about fighting games man.
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Post by: hobomasterxxx on January 20, 2010, 08:55:24 am
You could just do waht some people do and play as Akuma spamming projectiles everywhere. They tend to win a lot. They also have no souls.
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Post by: Supra Mairo on January 20, 2010, 11:53:24 am
sorry you can't get good if you already aren't good since the game always matches you with some korean homo or something along those lines who breathes street fighter.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 20, 2010, 12:51:27 pm
Street Fighter IV is an easy game to master.

learn your 1 frame links, and master FADC > ultra (which isn't with every character)

admittedly I am not the one to ask for advice, I know Rufus and Sagat.

watch some of my videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luwCgm8y0uI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcR5MarYMU8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP5tM689Xw4

in the third, I am the sagat player.

the first two, shane and I were rivals more or less haha.

also yeah, I lose and all 3, I tend to get over excited when I come close to winning and let myself lose.
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Post by: Vellfire on January 20, 2010, 01:42:33 pm
sorry you can't get good if you already aren't good since the game always matches you with some korean homo or something along those lines who breathes street fighter.

I've played quite a few winning matches, I'm assuming it's because I'm playing ranked matches???  I've only played against a few people where the fight was completely one-sided.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 20, 2010, 01:45:28 pm
here is my secret to getting good:

training mode.


also, get a bunch of friends that are also street fighter players, and play with them everyday for 8+ hours.

oh and go to the arcade a lot and spend like 40 dollars a day on street fighter only.


street fighter 4 requires lots of patience. you are not going to just rush in and win. it's a waiting game. I am not saying turtle, but if your opponent fucks up once you can turn a whole match around. (yeah, you can play balrog or honda and just turtle too)

easy mode:

pick zangief and lariat
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 20, 2010, 01:52:10 pm
the way i got good was having a buddy come over and play Alpha every day before we had an exam at school (instead of revising). sacrificed some grades for it, but now im good at street fighter and thats all you need in life
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Post by: c0nfu53d on January 20, 2010, 03:07:55 pm
man up you sissy

Other than practise this is the best advice! Just get on with it and play. If you can't hack it maybe you should wear a dress and take up knitting? lol

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Post by: dragonx on January 20, 2010, 04:12:00 pm
hey UG how did you lose as sagat wtf
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Post by: Supra Mairo on January 20, 2010, 04:19:47 pm
I heard Sagat is really hard to play.
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Post by: Supra Mairo on January 20, 2010, 04:22:09 pm
But then I went and played against one and he just used maybe 2 - 3 moves to turtle in his end of the stage and any attempts to close the distance would end in "god uppercut" as I think it is called.
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Post by: Brown on January 20, 2010, 04:26:38 pm
(http://pub.gamingw.net/41354/tigar-uppercut.jpg)
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 20, 2010, 05:49:25 pm
sagat is difficult to play properly.

you can win technically with just standing roundhouse and forward + roundhouse, and a probably 5 or 6 tiger shots.

sagat has some of the hardest 1 frame links in the game, though.
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Post by: Brown on January 20, 2010, 06:34:27 pm
the most overpowered character in the game is Zangief imo. He can dodge hadoukens and any projectiles of the kind by doing his spin move, and if you get near him its over for you.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 20, 2010, 06:41:59 pm
zangief can be ridiculous.

his jab spd can grab characters out of almost anything. mashing lariat has won matches in tournaments. his ultra has a 1 frame start up, so avoiding it is extremely difficult.
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Post by: Neophyte on January 20, 2010, 07:03:38 pm
start with charge characters (blanka, balrog, honda). These are the best players to start with because there is not much in terms of combos that you have to master unless you want to be really good.

After that you can move up to characters like ryu and sagat. Honestly though it's impossible to get good with these characters using a controller, so I would just stick with the charge characters because most of their motions are holding back + forward + X. Okay.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 20, 2010, 07:19:05 pm
I laughed a bit when some people were giving me advice like HEY ITS JUST ZONING AN DTHEN YOUR LIKE MASTERING FADC

haha if im not good at street fighter how am i going to understand technical terms like that

some of this stuff has been helpful though
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Post by: UPRC on January 20, 2010, 09:16:11 pm
Afura, you can't suck more than I do at SF4. I can beat my friends and family, but online I was always extremely bad. I think even constant humiliated me.

Maybe that's what I got for maining Rose, I don't know..
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 20, 2010, 09:49:24 pm
I've won online once so far.
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Post by: Tweaked_1551 on January 21, 2010, 03:56:51 am
I laughed a bit when some people were giving me advice like HEY ITS JUST ZONING AN DTHEN YOUR LIKE MASTERING FADC

haha if im not good at street fighter how am i going to understand technical terms like that

some of this stuff has been helpful though

Zoning = exactly as the term suggests, knowing your offensive and defensive zones, which moves work best at which ranges, using attacks to keep opponents out, controlling the fight by limiting which zones your opponent can jump/rush in or counter you, and/or keeping your opponent in a certain zone where their options are limited.

FADC = focus attack dash cancel - hold your focus attack and dash forward or backwards to cancel the FA, requires zero gauge and is very useful for baiting attacks or faking out an opponent. ex. of how to use it: if you've knocked down a shoto user (ken, ryu, akuma's fighting style) chances are pretty high they're going to try to shoryuken you if you're close while they're down. Go in and start to charge your FA almost right beside them while they're down, cancel it by dashing backwards and punish their whiffed shoryuken.

Terms you might want to know -

Super/Hyper armor - basically instead of flat-out receiving a blow from an attack you'll absorb that attack and you'll still continue your attack animations. I can't remember if all attacks that are absorbed give you temporary damage or if it's just special attacks, also whenever you absorb an attack there's usually some delay you receive from absorbing an attack. All Focus Attacks have Super Armor after you charge the FA for a little while.

Armor breaking - some attacks have armor breaking and will allow you to basically shut down an attack that has super armor. Any sort of special uppercut usually has armor breaking
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 21, 2010, 04:07:13 am
That is not at all what a focus attack dash cancel is.

focus attack dash cancel is when you hit the focus attack buttons (medium punch and medium kick) and dash forward or backward, thus using two bars of ex meter and canceling whatever move you were doing.

example:

sagat does tiger uppercut > fadc> dash forward> forward+round house> ex fireball/ultra/nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSn1NXkFU


you are also wrong about uppercuts having armor breaking. a regular uppercut has no armor breaking properties at all. ex uppercuts of course have armor breaking, they are usually multiple hits.

to armor break a focus attack you either have to hit your opponent twice, or use a move like a hurricane kick that has armor breaking properties.

some ex moves can also be broken, like balrogs ex rush punch, rufus' galactic tornado breaks that.


don't listen to that guy, unless you want to be misinformed about street fighter 4
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Post by: Biggles on January 21, 2010, 04:12:36 am
I used to play SFA2 online for a bit. I also used to play SFIII in arcades for a while and I lost a lot, but won a few times.

If you are really truly bad at street fighter then you don't need complicated information about framedata and combos to win. Probably framedata and combos and SUPER TECHNIQUE will ruin you. Here is the universally recognised super unstoppable method to win at street fighter:

1) Be ryu or ken or someone like that.

2) Throw fireballs at them as fast as you can.

3) When they jump at you do shoryuken. If you can't shoryuken then use crouch and fierce punch (the hardest one).

4) If you know they're going to hit you and you can't stop them then block. If you think they're going to pause, throw them.

Eventually you will figure out what all the other moves are for and how to get people in corners and keep them on the ground and do big combos or whatever you like. Maybe you might be interested to the point of reading up all the nerdy combo prediction strategy stuff. But mostly Street Fighter is throw fireballs and do dragon punch. Also you can kick them in the face when you jump in and then kick them in the shins when you land. And throwing fireballs when you're in close works sometimes.
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Post by: Tweaked_1551 on January 21, 2010, 04:23:40 am
That is not at all what a focus attack dash cancel is.

focus attack dash cancel is when you hit the focus attack buttons (medium punch and medium kick) and dash forward or backward, thus using two bars of ex meter and canceling whatever move you were doing.

example:

sagat does tiger uppercut > fadc> dash forward> forward+round house> ex fireball/ultra/nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSn1NXkFU


you are also wrong about uppercuts having armor breaking. a regular uppercut has no armor breaking properties at all. ex uppercuts of course have armor breaking, they are usually multiple hits.

to armor break a focus attack you either have to hit your opponent twice, or use a move like a hurricane kick that has armor breaking properties.

some ex moves can also be broken, like balrogs ex rush punch, rufus' galactic tornado breaks that.


don't listen to that guy, unless you want to be misinformed about street fighter 4

my bad I haven't played/discussed SF4 in a while, Focus Canceling is what I was talking about and you're right I forgot to mention that only multi-hit uppercuts (pretty much special uppercuts) have armor breaking, oh wait I did say special uppercut :/
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 21, 2010, 04:25:28 am
I will give you the best advice afura


don't play street fighter 4 at all.

play 3rd strike, it's far superior.

actually it's way more difficult to learn.
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Post by: Tweaked_1551 on January 21, 2010, 04:33:26 am
I will give you the best advice afura


don't play street fighter 4 at all.

play 3rd strike Blazblue, it's far superior.

Fixed, most SF3 players will have migrated to SF4 and Blazblue has PSN/XBL support, and you're right SF3 is probably harder to learn than BB & SF4 combined
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 21, 2010, 04:35:07 am
most of the 3s players I know in southern california, northern california, and the east coast are dedicated to it. they play sf4 and bb, but they are die hard for 3s.
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Post by: EColeman24 on January 21, 2010, 05:12:22 am
You will just have to spend the time practicing especially since you don't want to invest in a joystick (Which would make it easier) Time spent and lots of button pressing in your future...
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 21, 2010, 05:29:13 am
day three: still fucking infuriating, sometimes I still can't get past the third stage on medium depending on if its rufus or that electric bitch.

WHY DID THEY MAKE IT SO HARD
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Post by: Biggles on January 21, 2010, 06:10:23 am
did you try my advice? it is reasonably straightforward, i think. also i learned it from top australian tournament players.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 21, 2010, 09:37:13 am
Yeah I'm gunna keep practicing thanks guys
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Post by: Ciox on January 21, 2010, 09:39:59 pm
That is not at all what a focus attack dash cancel is.

focus attack dash cancel is when you hit the focus attack buttons (medium punch and medium kick) and dash forward or backward, thus using two bars of ex meter and canceling whatever move you were doing.

example:

sagat does tiger uppercut > fadc> dash forward> forward+round house> ex fireball/ultra/nothing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JcSn1NXkFU


you are also wrong about uppercuts having armor breaking. a regular uppercut has no armor breaking properties at all. ex uppercuts of course have armor breaking, they are usually multiple hits.

to armor break a focus attack you either have to hit your opponent twice, or use a move like a hurricane kick that has armor breaking properties.

some ex moves can also be broken, like balrogs ex rush punch, rufus' galactic tornado breaks that.


don't listen to that guy, unless you want to be misinformed about street fighter 4

don't forget that any reversal move becomes an armor breaker, so a wakeup uppercut always breaks, probly why he thought they always armor break
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on January 21, 2010, 09:53:55 pm
day three: still fucking infuriating, sometimes I still can't get past the third stage on medium depending on if its rufus or that electric bitch.

WHY DID THEY MAKE IT SO HARD

it's an arcade game. each time you die the owner gets another coin
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 21, 2010, 11:42:36 pm
Got up to Seth (BARELY), I just abuse focus attacks basicially. I can see Tekken copied alot of characters from this game but I still prefer it.
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Post by: hobomasterxxx on January 22, 2010, 12:12:35 am
Got up to Seth (BARELY), I just abuse focus attacks basicially. I can see Tekken copied alot of characters from this game but I still prefer it.
On a totally unrelated note, the guy who voices Heihachi Mishima commited suicide recently.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 22, 2010, 12:42:31 am
GAMING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!! IMPORTANT BULLETIN

THIS SHOULD BE ON THE MAINSITE
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Post by: Grogrog on January 22, 2010, 03:36:47 pm
I find the best abusive tactic, or the easiest for me is Jump Heavy Kick > Crouch Heavy Kick (sweep) space yourself and start over as they get back up.
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Post by: Boosh!!! on January 22, 2010, 03:46:58 pm
 This should help some: http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 22, 2010, 04:51:11 pm
or you could just learn how to do akuma's raging demon. just combine that with crouch + heavy kick and you have probably the harshest (and least respectable) combination of moves ever. (sweep them down then use  the unblockable raging demon as they get up.... so horrible)
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Post by: Eltee on January 22, 2010, 05:48:43 pm
Sweep down and raging demon doesn't even work


There is a small window where you can jump out of it when getting up

:|

Plus if he can't beat arcade how would he have Akuma anyway??
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 22, 2010, 05:54:35 pm
yeah sweep to raging demon doesn't work.

best demon setup is like air fireball, hope opponent jumps over, raging demon. they can't recover from their previous jump fast enough, so it's free almost.
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 22, 2010, 07:38:39 pm
you can do it in alpha so i assumed the same for street fighter 4 soz guys
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Post by: Eltee on January 22, 2010, 09:31:54 pm
I'm pretty sure sweep to raging demon is avoidable in Alpha aswell
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Post by: dada on January 22, 2010, 10:47:37 pm
I used to be quite okay at SFA3 but the problem is I played it regularly for like a year and a half on an emulator using a normal keyboard. I am COMPLETELY incapable of using a controller or arcade stick. Since I don't really play it anymore I'm probably not going to get one now, but it's kind of silly that everybody beats me up in that game even though I'm pretty sure I could beat them quite easily if only I could use a keyboard.
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Post by: Vellfire on January 22, 2010, 11:05:21 pm
I used to be quite okay at SFA3 but the problem is I played it regularly for like a year and a half on an emulator using a normal keyboard. I am COMPLETELY incapable of using a controller or arcade stick. Since I don't really play it anymore I'm probably not going to get one now, but it's kind of silly that everybody beats me up in that game even though I'm pretty sure I could beat them quite easily if only I could use a keyboard.

i've had this problem before too with games, luckily sf2 was one of the first games i ever played so i never had this problem with fighting games (i am terrible at playing them with keyboards)

Speaking of which can anyone recommend me some sort of third party dreamcast controller that's really small?  Not like RIDICULOUS small but significantly smaller than the regular DC one.  Unless I can find a really cheap dreamcast fight stick I am really going to need one of these, as I really love playing third strike but my hands are so small that I can only play a round or two with a regular DC controller before I have to quit due to pains in my hand.  Something closer to the 360 controller's size would be much better.  Third strike is one of the best SF's I've ever played and I would really like to actually be able to play it.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 22, 2010, 11:55:59 pm
I recommend getting the Agetec "Green Monster" for an arcade stick. I don't know it's real name, everyone just calls it the green monster or goblin whatever you want.



edit:

this

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-DREAMCAST-ARCADE-STICK-AGETEC-USED_W0QQitemZ110481981358QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item19b93d3fae#ht_500wt_1182
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Post by: FrostyPink on January 22, 2010, 11:59:06 pm
i just want alpha 4, fuck super street fighter 4 (as a whole retail game WUTUF)
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Post by: Vellfire on January 23, 2010, 12:33:11 am
I recommend getting the Agetec "Green Monster" for an arcade stick. I don't know it's real name, everyone just calls it the green monster or goblin whatever you want.



edit:

this

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-DREAMCAST-ARCADE-STICK-AGETEC-USED_W0QQitemZ110481981358QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games?hash=item19b93d3fae#ht_500wt_1182

Man that's a good price, wish I had the money for it at the moment :<  Oh well maybe I'll get lucky again some other time.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 23, 2010, 12:37:44 am
they are very easy to find, so no need to fret.
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Post by: hobomasterxxx on January 23, 2010, 02:49:58 am
i just want alpha 4, fuck super street fighter 4 (as a whole retail game WUTUF)
And it's also not coming to PC apparently.
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Post by: Paranoia Dude on January 23, 2010, 08:44:08 pm
Pick Zangief, rotate stick, mash punch buttons.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 26, 2010, 11:58:48 pm
THIS GAME IS FUCKING SHIT I STILL CANT ENJOY IT. Why don't they make it fun for people who aren't pros? I think I'm going to trade it in. Games shouldn't be so hard that the only way to win is by being cheap and pushing the same attack over and over again to exploit gaps in the AI. It shouldn't be super hard on medium, it should be medium. I don't know who the fuck gave this shit 10/10.
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 27, 2010, 12:11:36 am
street fighter 4 is actually the simplest of all street fighters to learn.

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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 27, 2010, 12:18:25 am
thats nice
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Post by: unusualgamer on January 27, 2010, 02:45:12 am
just saying, this game is easy to learn. it's very forgiving unlike every other fighting game (except blazblue).

you aren't going to get good playing the computer anyway. you won't be able to develop any mind games or really be able to set up any sort of strategy.


get some friends that also want to play street fighter and play with them. watch lots of videos, and develop a play style from those. me personally, I keep a notebook with different ways to beat specific characters.
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Post by: Biggles on January 27, 2010, 03:04:55 am
isn't tekken mostly about memorising combos and juggles? how is that easy or fun? why would you play fighting games by yourself?

also there is a lot of depth to "being cheap". street fighter is essentially a competition to see who can be the cheapest. most fighting games are. what differentiates a good one from a bad one is how interesting the competition is i.e. how it evolves. if you are interested in why 'pros' and other such dorks find this fun there's an okay article on it here: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw

really i do not intend to defend fighting games as a genre - objectively they are awful because there are hours and hours of effort and practise and commitment required to get any good at them. they emphasise competitive behaviour and tend not to have very much to say that chess didn't already say better (except chess pacing sucks). i enjoy fighting games because i like obsessing over tactics and trying to predict other people's strategies, but i don't think this makes them GOOD. probably you should play a different game entirely. go trade it in. all the other games these days are pretty awful too though.
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on January 27, 2010, 03:54:37 am
get some friends that also want to play street fighter and play with them. watch lots of videos, and develop a play style from those. me personally, I keep a notebook with different ways to beat specific characters.

How rewarding could going through all of this possibly be?
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Post by: Parker on January 27, 2010, 03:55:57 am
i only play virtua fighter, so i dont know what you guys are talking about (internet joke)
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Post by: MaD on January 27, 2010, 04:06:58 am
this topic makes me sad :(
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Post by: Tatsujinken on January 27, 2010, 06:06:54 am
if you want to win you absolutely must not pick vega
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Post by: falconshield on January 27, 2010, 06:28:17 am
I swear this is the fucking hardest game in the world...



That's exactly what I said yesterday when I played this. I used to play Street Fighter 2 turbo when I was younger and I was kinda good at that. But this...wtf is this?! I promise I spent like 45 minutes trying to beat Seth. On the Easy setting!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME?! How can something be so fucking hard on EASY!?

Easily top 5 most frustrating gaming moments for me.
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Post by: ThugTears666 on January 27, 2010, 07:24:28 am
couldn't agree more!
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Post by: Supra Mairo on January 27, 2010, 07:06:23 pm
I have a lot of problems with this game from a videogaems are fun point of view.

I think this whole genre is a load of shit and it's not particularly fun at all if you aren't playing it with friends in the same room.

It isn't very encouraging getting your ass handed to you by some anonymous faggot online over and over because of a clear gap between experience and even winning isn't fun because the only thing you feel is shame for throwing away your sportsmanship in order to use those el cheapo tricks that got you that win. I think the biggest problem I have with games like these is how extremely narrow the gameplay is and the overall lack of variance in everything.

There's like 20 or so characters in the roster yet there only really is about 4 or 5 clearly different characters that aren't just a 90% copy of someone else or a mix of 3 different characters in one.
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Post by: Vellfire on January 27, 2010, 07:30:53 pm
I have a lot of problems with this game from a videogaems are fun point of view.

I think this whole genre is a load of shit and it's not particularly fun at all if you aren't playing it with friends in the same room.

It isn't very encouraging getting your ass handed to you by some anonymous faggot online over and over because of a clear gap between experience and even winning isn't fun because the only thing you feel is shame for throwing away your sportsmanship in order to use those el cheapo tricks that got you that win. I think the biggest problem I have with games like these is how extremely narrow the gameplay is and the overall lack of variance in everything.

There's like 20 or so characters in the roster yet there only really is about 4 or 5 clearly different characters that aren't just a 90% copy of someone else or a mix of 3 different characters in one.

This is entirely a problem with players and not the game itself.  If it's only fun for you with your friends, then only play it with your friends!  There's nothing wrong with the game itself, I mean by the same token party games are a load of shit because they're only fun with your friends.
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Post by: goldenratio on January 28, 2010, 03:34:47 am
Afura please don't trade in the game, I actually want you to be good at it too, now. Keep practicing dude!
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Post by: Grogrog on February 01, 2010, 01:39:36 pm
THIS GAME IS FUCKING SHIT I STILL CANT ENJOY IT. Why don't they make it fun for people who aren't pros? I think I'm going to trade it in. Games shouldn't be so hard that the only way to win is by being cheap and pushing the same attack over and over again to exploit gaps in the AI. It shouldn't be super hard on medium, it should be medium. I don't know who the fuck gave this shit 10/10.

If you're playing the game for the AI you're doing it wrong.
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Post by: dada on February 01, 2010, 02:03:45 pm
And it's also not coming to PC apparently.
huh. really? when I went to Japan all the computer stores there used a Street Fighter 4 demo to showcase some of their monitors.
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Post by: Eltee on February 01, 2010, 09:56:21 pm
but super street fighter 4 isnt even out in japan yet either???
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Post by: Silhouette on February 07, 2010, 08:54:49 pm
if you want to win you absolutely must not pick vega

Vega is my main, and I have over 2000 points in ranked battles. :)
It's all about learning how to poke, guard against crossups, and confuse the opponent. He has excellent reach, as well.
Plus he's wickedly insane. Always a plus.
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Post by: unusualgamer on February 08, 2010, 04:24:36 am
ps tatsu is a vega player also. very very very good vega player from southern california.
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Post by: UPRC on February 08, 2010, 11:24:26 am
but super street fighter 4 isnt even out in japan yet either???

Last I checked, it should be out either in March or April.