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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: jamie on May 07, 2010, 03:23:20 pm
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Well, it's all over! It's a wrap on the last season of tim and eric! They're moving on now to a billion dollar movie produced by will ferrell. It's a real man's game now, it's the big leagues.
Talk about tim and eric and the whole gang in general but I'm just going to talk a little about season 5 first.
I didn't love it so much! There were definitely good parts, some of the funniest stuff from this season was from people and places I thought I had either gotten tired of or never really liked (like the zach galifinakis little dancing man trailer was hilarious), and the old gang of david liebe hart, richard dunn and james quall done the trick like always. Tim and Eric really irritated me sometimes though this season. I think it was the focus of the show - it WAS darker, yeah, and I don't mind that I like it when it turns dark, but it wasn't so much dark as it was meaningless and ugly sometimes. I don't know if it was their intention to make an uglier and more off point kind of awesome show this season, but I really can't think of any particularly good reason for making the show that way.
The episode plots were so fucking bad! It was all tim and eric talking directly to the camera and having some gross without anything behind it event happen (lame puberty stuff, necklace made of dead animals, fucking 'man milk' was such a terrible way to end the show). Their back and forth was predictable because it was the exact same set up every week this time. In past seasons they had a different kind of style to it every week. Not just 'hi welcome to awesome show. hey tim, did i mention my penis has a big wart on it?' 'oh really? let's eat it.'. And this takes up like half of the episode.
The sketches alot of the time were still good. Some ones I remember as being really good were h'amb, cinco sleep watcher, little dancing man, quall of duty, and probably alot of others I liked just fine! Some of the cinco products this year were terrible, like the diarrhea opener which was a total miss for me, and some of the sketches were just a waste. Like the morning meditations/afternoon review for women bits. it was funny the first time but it is the exact same joke every tme and it's such a kind of in your face like 'HEY YOU WHO WATCH THIS. YOU'RE STUPID HAHAHA' kind of thing which just comes off as arrogant and mean.
And another thing - a couple of times I got more of the impression that we were supposed to be exploiting the people they got on the show (like that muscle woman mother thing? that was horrible), rather than it just being light hearted wacky stuff.
I didn't like alot of their attitude this year. I watch parts from season 4, which I think is probably my favourite one, and it never felt mean spirited, you know? maybe here and there but not like season 5.
It's like they were so bent on deconstructing the show and the dumber aspects of the following they had built up that they totally killed the warmth and fun of alot of the show. I don't want to see richard dunn act like a paedophile, you know? I don't want david liebe hart saying whore!
it felt like the show wanted me to hate it sometimes. i liked some episodes better watching them the second time but i dunno...i didn't feel like i was totally on board this season, which is new.
I'm pretty glad it's over, if this is where they feel like taking it all these days. I used to think tim and eric were the funniest guys around and, really, there isn't much better than this but that is not saying much! They are off to do more commercials, music videos for shitty bands and a movie with will ferrell now so I don't know what is going on with them but I dunno if I am exactly excited. I'll check it all out though.
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i disagree
man milk was a great ep and a pretty good way to end the show. I guess the whole man-milk concept itself wasn't funny but I don't think it's supposed to be funny on its own, just weird and gross. it's what they did with it that was successful. and a lot of the sketches inbetween were really good too
little dancing man had its moments but I expected more from the sketch. that episode was mostly good because of the main plot, the two songs and little danson man I think. I know lots pf people loved quall and order but I just thought it was kinda forced or something, idk less successful than the rest of their parodies thoughout the season. I didn't like the muscle lady sketch either, but I think it was just meant to be uncomfortable and awkward rather than something mean-spirited. I really don't think this woman was being exploited or that she didn't understand the sketch
season 5 wasn't as good as I had hoped, going by where season 4 seemed to be leading. I can't blame them for wanting to try something different part of the time but it really didn't turn out that great. still season cinco had a lot of the show's best sketches, like h'amb, and it was pretty entertaining for the most part I think. I don't agree with judging them by their failures, because at least they're trying something and it's not like their failed sketches are awful, give a bad message, or dominate the show. I think it was a really successful show overall and at the moment I can't think of any sketch shows that are nearly as good, besides limmy's show.
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it seemed like they were really phoning it in this season. Like, it was still mostlyl funny, but a lot of the stuff just felt tired and like the same old stuff. As usually the really good stuff had to do with capturing real people's quirks, however exploitative it seems.
My favorite parts of the season were the "All Dolled Up" sketches, which I think there was only 2, but watching these guys talk over each other about the shows they worked on and, you know this sort of egotistical bullshit thats so awkward in real life and these guys are doing it and its on tape. I just really enjoy watching that, for some reason.
James Quall always manages to make me laugh because he just always looks so uncomfortable and out of place. Quall of Duty? That was really good.
There's just lots of bits and pieces that are good, and the rest was either boring or just not very entertaining. I dunno. season 4 was really great and the over-arching plots in those episodes were actually good, and the characters they came up with were great.
Also what's up with them getting like patrick duffy and alan thicke to do these horribly forced "renditions" of "weirdness"? It's so transparent its just dumb.
It really feels like they are catering the lowest common denominator with their humor, and just doing all the shit that people who don't actually think about what's going on laugh at.
I dunno it just feels forced and with the type of comedy they do it just ruins it. Argh.
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Hey guys, long time t&e fan, first time poster.
can you tell me more about this movie or whatever? i regrettably only caught one episode of t&e this season, and to my dismay it featured will ferrell.
personally i am hoping for a tom & the mayor revisit but anything with richard dunn would be cool
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actually yeah the style of the tairy greene machine episode was really good, so not all of the plots were boring. it was taken right from those windows launch party videos which i dunno if you guys have seen but here is one they are good:
makes me want to throw a party!
alot of this season felt like a step back or some kind of huge step to the side. i mean i can see what you are saying earl...i don't think it was a bad season, of course it's still the best sketch show around but there was just something off about alot of this season. something dumb, even!
I guess the whole man-milk concept itself wasn't funny but I don't think it's supposed to be funny on its own, just weird and gross.
i always liked the show better when it went for something different than weird and gross. i don't mind gross, and i usually like weird, but i was expecting alot more out of the final episode than tim and eric having swollen nipples. like, if someone were to say that the tim and eric are dumb and waste all their time with stupid shit, i can't really defend them because it is true. they had a 20 minute episode to do whatever they liked with, they could have done something alot more clever and just entertaining even than the man milk thing. like parts of the episode even feel dumb and bordering into the usual comedy shit. i'd be embarassed to recommend people things like man milk and 'cinco helps your friends band girls in your dorm!'. it's not that it is so terrible that i want to turn it off, it's just that i was totally not along for the ride with alot of the episodes this season. maybe i'll change my mind about some things later on.
it's like they weren't trying to be funny or smart and just wanted to make you uncomfortable while watching it, and i was uncomfortable, but not because they were making really weird sketches, only because i was expecting alot more than this and was feeling a little embarassed about hyping this stuff up so much in my mind.
i'm being really negative so far, but i did actually enjoy alot of this season! i'll talk about what was good some soon.
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actually i am basically saying i am disappointed cos they didn't do what I wanted them to do. i don't know why my reflex is to focus on the bad with tim and eric...i think i turned a little sour on them because of eric wareheim's music videos and stuff.
anyway, it was a great show overall for sure!!!
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I see what you're saying, I and think that's why a lot of people were disappointed with season cinco early on
I like a couple of eric's music videos and I wouldn't call major lazer a bad band
what I liked about man milk is that besides the whole nipple thing it was just like lifetime original movie christmas special stuff. also I liked koi a lot, he makes a natural milkman. I liked the privacy helmet too besides the bang chicks in your dorm part which felt like it was catering to the typical adult swim crowd even though it's supposed to be another dumb cinco slogan
and yeah I saw a video like that before. I don't think michaelsoft was the only one to do it but t&e sure hit the nail on the head with that one. especially with eric's unrelated slit palms opener and the archetypal guests walking in. actually it's kind of like those dinner and a movie shows
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I hope they die.
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come join me on the tim and eric is not so great bandwagon, my brothers
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I'm looking forward to the Dr. Brule spinoff they have airing next week... However, I still stand by the idea that Tim and Eric's best work was in Tom Goes to the Mayor.
Along the lines of T&EASGJ, I'm tired of seeing the Tairy Green Machine "infomercial." It's seriously been on every day at 4AM(EST)... at least it's an entertaining sketch.
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I'm looking forward to the Dr. Brule spinoff they have airing next week...
wow, i didn't know this was getting made. i got kinda tired of awesome show, but steve brule is an excellent character.
it kinda sounds like it'll basically be steve brule's awesome show, which is a pretty neat idea. i felt like awesome show was a good general premise but had gotten pretty stale over the years. maybe this will be different?
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wow, i didn't know this was getting made. i got kinda tired of awesome show, but steve brule is an excellent character.
it kinda sounds like it'll basically be steve brule's awesome show, which is a pretty neat idea. i felt like awesome show was a good general premise but had gotten pretty stale over the years. maybe this will be different?
I'm really hoping so. John C. Reilly is always fun to watch, regardless of his role. His segments on Awesome Show were pretty great, too, just because they were so nonsensical and off the wall, especially the segment on video games.
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In July 2008, the New York Times reported that an Awesome Show spin-off, Check It Out!, with Steve Brule, would air on Cartoon Network beginning some time in 2009.[2] The show parodies local newscasts, and as Heidecker briefly described it: "It's like his half-hour to go around town and interview the local beer-maker or whatever."[17] The show will have an episode run time of approximately 11 minutes, and it will feature John C. Reilly reprising his role as Dr. Steve Brule. According to Heidecker, Reilly had the original idea of giving the Dr. Steve character an entire show.[14] Vanity Fair reported that the program would begin airing on August 23, 2009;[14] however, the program did not air on that date, and LA Weekly reported in September 2009 that Check It Out! is currently "forthcoming."[18] It is currently scheduled for May 16th, 2010. [19]
this sounds amazing
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Old Spice commercials?
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this apparently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl5uyn5K7k
pretty eye-catching commercials I guess but not that funny or anything
they also apparently did that boost mobile shuffle commercial that I didn't really like
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yeah i don't like the commercials and hey what the fuck are they doing making commercials anyway? this is one of the things that made me go a little sour on them.
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seriously dude that is the dumbest thing i've read in this forum in a while
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i'm not challenging you but really what do they owe to you or any of their fanbase to not try to make money and not try to further their careers?
also they've done commercials before which clearly aren't as widely viewed as the old spice ones (i don't think this absolut commercial even got airtime) but it's maybe only new in the constraints of the product itself
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i'm not challenging you but really what do they owe to you or any of their fanbase to not try to make money and not try to further their careers?
it's hard to see how doing commercials really furthers their career, though. i mean yeah, i obviously don't know their situation or why they chose to do it, but doing commercials is generally a SELLOUT sort of thing to do and not really the kind of thing creative people should really feel inspired to do if they can avoid it. it's using their creativity for a genuinely lame or unproductive cause. kinda makes them look like they don't really take a significant amount of pride in what they do and are a bit more concerned with the money end of it then any sort of artistic integrity they might have.
i don't think anybody really makes(or is making) a supremely big deal about this, since it isn't that big of a deal, it just generally reflects somewhat poorly on them. they don't appear to be starving at the moment and are having fairly successful careers, so this isn't exactly like orson welles not finding any decent work at all and kinda needing to do commercial work to stay afloat, especially considering how visibly halfheartedly welles took the responsibilities of doing commercials. for a long while i've kinda regarded tim and eric as not too serious about what they do, and them doing commercials kinda fortifies that notion. i'm pretty sure everybody in the creative business is at least peripherally aware that doing commercials is regarded as a crappy thing to do either willingly or by choice, so their choosing to do it amidst a strong point in their career probably shows that they don't really have much desire to be taken seriously, or perhaps have sufficient disrespect for the intelligence of their audience to think that they wouldn't really care. i find it kinda hard to side with a creative person that eagerly allies itself with some mega corporation's advertising campaign.
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I think they just saw the opportunity to make their ridiculous parodies a reality. Much of their content is a parody of programming, with their own fake commercials, but now they're subjecting the average viewer to outrageous content. I wouldn't think that they're as much into making money as making people question the sanity of everyday television.
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I remember a day when creative people had a genuine interest in expressing themselves through a genuine love of the products they are advertising. That love showed in the advertisements they produced and it was a golden age for everyone.
Now advertisers are only college graduates who are disgruntled about not doing more "creative" work and can only make advertisements that are ironic or cynical of the true joys brought to the world by consumerism. The people at the heads are trying to find those people who could make advertisements with genuine love in them, but all those men are now just as cynical as the college grads because they were pushed out on the streets to live as homeless bums because their positions had to be replaced by younger, more hip individuals.
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I thought jamie meant making serious commercials for Big Business is kind of below them. because that's kinda true but these commercials don't represent their work and I wouldn't have known they made them if it wasn't stupid fricking unguided
otherwise who cares about any of this stuff. they've probably wanted to make real commercials for a long time, just going by everything they've done online and on adult swim. I mean you can tell they really wanted to make that nfl one. and unlike the fake commercials on their show or their site, these come out of nowhere and surprise you.
I don't think it's worth speculating what non-creative impulses they might have had for making these commercials, how much money they might have gained from these jobs, or how they ended up using this money. and who knows they could have put all their dough back into awesome show, which seemed to have some expensive stuff going on in the last two seasons. or maybe they just wanted to make some easy cash, I can't care when it's for stupid stuff like vodka or old spice. they're pretty much making fun of the product in every case anyway
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is it just me or did their presence in check it out this week make the episode worse?
the pilot was great. i mean the whole restaurant segment and subsequent follow-up in the studio had me rolling and the sushi part was pretty good too but i was really looking forward to something like that where brule just interacts with people i've never heard of while he stutters and gets their names wrong. it felt like they were kinda monopolizing the already short time that reilly has to define a funny character, which would've been cool if they hadn't been doing the exact same shit they did in awesome show.
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here is my opinion of check it out with steve brule:
hey guess what steve brule is not just a little behind preparation wise now but he is actually mentally disabled lmao. let's watch him as he wanders around LA with no purpose, no money, and no hope. lmao, spazzy.
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guess what: i didn't like it.
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is it just me or did their presence in check it out this week make the episode worse?
the pilot was great. i mean the whole restaurant segment and subsequent follow-up in the studio had me rolling and the sushi part was pretty good too but i was really looking forward to something like that where brule just interacts with people i've never heard of while he stutters and gets their names wrong. it felt like they were kinda monopolizing the already short time that reilly has to define a funny character, which would've been cool if they hadn't been doing the exact same shit they did in awesome show.
i agree with everything you said here.
it'd be pretty disappointing if the series is going to resemble the second episode rather than the first. i really like the steve brule character. it's pretty clear that reilly's goal has always been to play a very young boy in a grown man's body, who apparently learned everything about the world from watching television. it's a bit of a sad character when you get past the goofiness, because you kinda want him to figure it all out and be happy(which he evidently is not) but it's this inevitable loop of misconceptions and failures that prevent him from really being a functioning person. i always kinda felt like he was pretty separate from a lot of the awesome show characters in that you aren't really just supposed to laugh at brule as some absurd, scarcely human spectacle, but someone you kinda laugh at in the same way you'd laugh at some silly child proudly mispronouncing words and being generally confused by simple topics. kinda has the same function as yogi berra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogiisms#Quotes)
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why do they keep playing the same episode every day?
it was good the first time but what the hell
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why do they keep playing the same episode every day?
it was good the first time but what the hell
I think I figured out why they did it, but I think I'm reading into it too far. Most other stations start playing infomercials at 4AM as a part of routine programming (i.e. Spike, Comedy Central [they ][/they], etc.), so I'd gather it's a spoof on that... An unnecessary spoof, but, regardless.
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the third episode of check it out is really good. pretty much on par with the first episode, probably because tim and eric weren't there to hog the on-screen time.
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richard dunn passed away.
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:(
he was really good, too.
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it's hard to see how doing commercials really furthers their career, though. i mean yeah, i obviously don't know their situation or why they chose to do it, but doing commercials is generally a SELLOUT sort of thing to do and not really the kind of thing creative people should really feel inspired to do if they can avoid it. it's using their creativity for a genuinely lame or unproductive cause. kinda makes them look like they don't really take a significant amount of pride in what they do and are a bit more concerned with the money end of it then any sort of artistic integrity they might have.
i don't think anybody really makes(or is making) a supremely big deal about this, since it isn't that big of a deal, it just generally reflects somewhat poorly on them. they don't appear to be starving at the moment and are having fairly successful careers, so this isn't exactly like orson welles not finding any decent work at all and kinda needing to do commercial work to stay afloat, especially considering how visibly halfheartedly welles took the responsibilities of doing commercials. for a long while i've kinda regarded tim and eric as not too serious about what they do, and them doing commercials kinda fortifies that notion. i'm pretty sure everybody in the creative business is at least peripherally aware that doing commercials is regarded as a crappy thing to do either willingly or by choice, so their choosing to do it amidst a strong point in their career probably shows that they don't really have much desire to be taken seriously, or perhaps have sufficient disrespect for the intelligence of their audience to think that they wouldn't really care. i find it kinda hard to side with a creative person that eagerly allies itself with some mega corporation's advertising campaign.
I was going to respond to this by pointing out that the Absolut commercials were pretty clearly mocking the product which I think is kind of respectable in its subversiveness but I am GREATLY DISAPPOINTED to learn that they actually directed those Old Spice commercials. I remember seeing those on TV and thinking they were just weak attempts at Tim & Eric style humor but to learn that it IS Tim & Eric style humor just breaks. my. heart. not necessarily because they're making commercials (although that's part of it) but because they really aren't very funny. Hopefully they are doing it to pour the money back into their own projects like earl suggested in which case I don't have any issues with them doing this because it's not like HI I'M TIM HEIDECKER AND THIS IS MY OLD SPICE COMMERCIAL. like they don't really seem to be trying to bank on their image to sell the product, although they are using a recognizable form of their humor so maybe that's not the best point to make? I guess my point is that sometimes in order to finance the work you WANT to do you have to work on something you wouldn't normally do (david lynch, for example, has done a number of commercials that have helped him finance other projects, and he did dune so that he could do blue velvet I believe), and I'm HOPING that's the case here, but obviously I don't know for sure. It's kind of a shame either way but that's the business I guess.
at the same time I don't want to give off the impression that I'm TOTALLY OK! with the idea of doing commercials. because I'm not. but I think it's kind of this unfortunate reality and as long as the motivation behind it is in the right place then it shouldn't reflect too poorly on the director.
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wow, i am really surprised richard dunn is dead. it felt like he was right in the middle of it all, and he has been posting on the internet and everything in the last few months so i thought his health was generally good. very sad to hear it.
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i really liked richard dunn. tim and eric used to have the most interesting stuff for him to do. sure some of it kinda felt like they were just BOTHERING AN EXCEEDINGLY FRAIL OLD MAN, but i always thought they handled dunn the best of the show regulars(except for galifianakis, and i guess he counts). it was more along the lines of real sketch stuff, and his part of it made the show a lot better. he really was a perfect fit for what they were doing with the show.
anyway, i like how he pretty much made a little career for himself later in life by playing CRAZY OLD GUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_hkE8bGxE) and actually kinda hit it big. it's pretty sad that he died just as he started having a lot of luck and getting a following.
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ps he wouldn't be dead if you faggots had sent him your bones like he fucking asked
gj killing richard dunn you bone misers
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Please god let this be a sham. richard dunn was easily the best actor/character on the show and i still have fond memories of him playing tim's dad in the first awesome show ep
@roman- i don't understand why these commercials are any bad thing regardless of the situation? maybe it's just me but to say "in my career I only want to do this kind of thing" seems a little unrealistic in that youll probably have to do things you don't want to, and in that you're missing so much by limiting yourself. like really it doesn't matter to me WHY they are doing commercials because it seems so stupid to me to feel betrayed by them for doing something they haven't done before. doing a commercial would be a lot of fun! i can't imagine turning down a project like that because my work is strictly artistic or meaningful and not feeling pretentious because of it. i dunno how much you guys follow them but they used to do slideshows with an overhead projector and in the big picture it's cool where they've gotten but youve gotta be a die hard to stick with the mission statement you wrote when you were poor in the slums
you mentioned the money thing, and that's exactly what a sellout is, but i don't feel their integrity isn't sacrificed since they hadnt been anti-big business or old spice or whatever before the commercials
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yeah man microwaves mom is wicked hot
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You're such a g00n buttkiller
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ddont say that word
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g**n