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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: Vesper on May 19, 2010, 09:59:13 pm
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So this fall im apparently going to be an exchange student in Utrecht, the netherlands (it was a 'all my friends are applying so i might as well do it too' kind of thing) unless I fuck something up which might still happen.
I'm getting really excited about it though, probably a great experience and it will look great at my resumé. Will distinguish me from all the bazillion other business economic-people.
also dutch people what kind of town is utrecht? I read some stories from previous exchange students and they liked it, good university, good parties, but crappy rooms.
So yeah what are your opinions about studying abroad?
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why dont you go somewhere exotic :(
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because i tried to go to australia but they refused to give me the spot.
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why dont you go somewhere exotic :(
stuff it, lars!
Utrecht is a fun city, I don't know that much about it but you'll have a great time there. lots of excellent pubs, good metal scene, and of course it means you'll be having a drink with me and the rest of the gw dutch crew soon.
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so many people go places they know absolutely nothing about and I don't get it. idk if this applies to you, and I don't know how much essiann knew about India before she moved there, but she's someone who will get something out of the experience no matter what and it was all pertinent to her major anyway
like what will you get out of doing business school in the netherlands that you couldn't get elsewhere? it sounds like you're studying abroad just for the heck of it, and as a poor student with $0 that pisses me off!! I study foreign countries and cultures in my free time but I'm not going to be able to travel anywhere for years
regardless, if you have a free opportunity to study abroad and got nothing at stake you should definitely go.
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like what will you get out of doing business school in the netherlands that you couldn't get elsewhere?
it's never a bad thing to try and understand how a different part of the world operates. traveling is one way to do it but nothing really beats actually living there for a while. it's an adventure. the education itself is probably on par with what he could get elsewhere (and of course it's in english), but learning to deal with a completely different environment is a massive learning experience on its own.
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yeah but that's anywhere, and netherlands isn't even that different from america. it'd be really easy to live as an american there, especially if all your american friends were there with you and you had no intererest in the history or culture besides which parties are the most fun
by which I mean it's a huge opportunity, don't make ducks and drakes of it or you'll be hitting yourself later.
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exchange is the best fucking thing you can do
I've been hanging with exchange students at my uni since 2008.
Awesome stuff, great results.
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so many people go places they know absolutely nothing about and I don't get it. idk if this applies to you, and I don't know how much essiann knew about India before she moved there, but she's someone who will get something out of the experience no matter what and it was all pertinent to her major anyway
like what will you get out of doing business school in the netherlands that you couldn't get elsewhere? it sounds like you're studying abroad just for the heck of it, and as a poor student with $0 that pisses me off!! I study foreign countries and cultures in my free time but I'm not going to be able to travel anywhere for years
regardless, if you have a free opportunity to study abroad and got nothing at stake you should definitely go.
well i live in communist sweden so the state takes care of me, they grant me a higher student loan during an exchange term. also i most probably will learn the same stuff as i could anywhere but if you want the great jobs here in sweden you almost have to study abroad. just studying at university-level isn't enough to stand out in sweden.
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so many people go places they know absolutely nothing about and I don't get it. idk if this applies to you, and I don't know how much essiann knew about India before she moved there, but she's someone who will get something out of the experience no matter what and it was all pertinent to her major anyway
idk man i think you are almost guaranteed to get SOMETHING out of studying abroad no matter where you go and no matter how much you knew about the place. i mean, just seeing a little of the world is something!!! who cares if you go there and do the stuff you'd do normally wherever you came from, you'd have to be actively trying to not get anything out of it.
on top of that, why do you have to know anything about a place before going? isn't that place going to be the best place to learn it?????
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I think the only way to really waste your exchange is by hanging with other exchange students, especially ones from you country. We've got a bunch of Italians in my uni and I rarely even hear them talking anything other than Italian. It might not be entirely their fault, I don't know how my uni treats exchange students, I can imagine getting to know people can be difficult if you're just dropped here and told to study, but it makes me sad.
Hey you Brits, tell me something about Sheffield. The uni or the city, anything. I've been eyeing the list of possible places to go and Sheffield seems like a good option.
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typical greaseballs...
idk man i think you are almost guaranteed to get SOMETHING out of studying abroad no matter where you go and no matter how much you knew about the place. i mean, just seeing a little of the world is something!!! who cares if you go there and do the stuff you'd do normally wherever you came from, you'd have to be actively trying to not get anything out of it.
on top of that, why do you have to know anything about a place before going? isn't that place going to be the best place to learn it?????
it's just kinda absurd to me, picking which country to study in based solely on how the name sounds to you. plus this is something people dream about, so being like welp who ever gave a shit about this country before, how are the parties?? is sort of a gross privileged white person thing to do.
believe me I do understand the fun in traveling to an unknown land and trying to carve out an existence there, but I think you need to be a certain kind of person to be able to do that and really get something out of it. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has spoken with huge dumbos coming back from abroad who only could talk about how gross the food was, how hot/ugly the chicks were, and how fucken awesome this alcoholic drink was while showing pictures of himself standing in front of major tourist destinations
this guy said he's from sweden tho so a lot of what I said doesn't really apply
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it's just kinda absurd to me, picking which country to study in based solely on how the name sounds to you. plus this is something people dream about, so being like welp who ever gave a shit about this country before, how are the parties?? is sort of a gross privileged white person thing to do.
so temporarily living in another country isn't a valuable learning experience? because everybody does it just for the parties anyway?
you're making a pretty broad generalization there. it's very important to learn about other cultures and to deal with people who think differently than you do. studying abroad is just one of many ways to do that. this isn't some wild, random thing people do just because they want to go on a free vacation.
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I go to school in Utrecht myself and it's a pretty cool city. Very old-styled buildings in the city, and a large train station. I don't know which school you're going to, but mine isn't too far from the city-centre with all the shops and stuff, so that's pretty nice sometimes.
Yeah cool city I guess.
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so temporarily living in another country isn't a valuable learning experience? because everybody does it just for the parties anyway?
you're making a pretty broad generalization there. it's very important to learn about other cultures and to deal with people who think differently than you do. studying abroad is just one of many ways to do that. this isn't some wild, random thing people do just because they want to go on a free vacation.
pratsy se engles? bok tol-yak angliskei? you're not really responding to anything I've posted. I'm not talking about studying abroad in general when I'm pointing out how it's often wasted. as I said earlier, it's really an invaluable experience if you have the opportunity and you do it right. but people do waste the opportunity, too, and it's really a shame because there is so much you can get out of it and it's not something everyone gets to do. sure these people probably get something of value out of their experience, but they could have done so much more. idk how it works in sweden but over here it's better to leave the slot open to someone else who really wants it (like a hypothetical LA student who could do some good research on dutch gardens??) if you're just going over there to party and smoke weed
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pratsy se engles? bok tol-yak angliskei?
de reden waarom ik dit tegen je zeg is omdat je eigenlijk alleen maar zit te zeuren over misbruik van studiemogelijkheden in het buitenland. je doet alsof vrijwel iedereen, en mogelijk ook Vesper, het enkel doet omdat ze lekker in het buitenland kunnen feesten en wiet kunnen roken terwijl jijzelf, een student die het uiteraard veel meer verdiend, gepasseerd wordt. en ja, dat is een vrij generaliserende en ongeprovoceerde opmerking.
Vesper is misschien niet al te enthousiast over het feit dat hij naar Nederland komt, maar je hebt geen idee wat voor iemand hij is en wat hij precies gaat doen als hij hier aankomt. beurzen om naar het buitenland te gaan worden echt niet zomaar aan iedereen uitgegeven. dus hou je commentaar nog maar even voor je voordat je je beklag maakt over het feit dat hij andermans' kansen verspilt.
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*Squints at the Google translation of Dada's remark*
Right.
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de reden waarom ik dit tegen je zeg is omdat je eigenlijk alleen maar zit te zeuren over misbruik van studiemogelijkheden in het buitenland. je doet alsof vrijwel iedereen, en mogelijk ook Vesper, het enkel doet omdat ze lekker in het buitenland kunnen feesten en wiet kunnen roken terwijl jijzelf, een student die het uiteraard veel meer verdiend, gepasseerd wordt. en ja, dat is een vrij generaliserende en ongeprovoceerde opmerking.
Vesper is misschien niet al te enthousiast over het feit dat hij naar Nederland komt, maar je hebt geen idee wat voor iemand hij is en wat hij precies gaat doen als hij hier aankomt. beurzen om naar het buitenland te gaan worden echt niet zomaar aan iedereen uitgegeven. dus hou je commentaar nog maar even voor je voordat je je beklag maakt over het feit dat hij andermans' kansen verspilt.
whoa I have no idea what this means.
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it's a bit of a long post but he basically told you to stfu and gtfo
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double whoa! harsh much? I thought it was joke highlighting how neither of us has a concrete idea what the other is trying to say but we still disagree about something abstract and we might as well be posting in different languages osuruk geğirmek bok. btw I haven't been specifically talking about vesper, I've acknowledged a lot of what I've said probably doesn't apply to students from sweden. I have no idea, but I do know that intra-europe travel is relatively cheap, the state probably pays for it and the guy already has a second language so
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anyone heard where's good in south america? i've heard it's pretty beautiful. argentina? brazil? don't speak spanish so i'll have to learn. i speak a little french but i dont want to go to fucking france. what does that leave me? south africa?
i'm willing to learn a new language to go somewhere i actually want to go.
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South america is cool as long as you stay away from the poor people. You could go to french guiana.
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PERHAPS MADAGASCAR
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UNC?
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university of cairo
(egypt)
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i would only want to go to the place with the fewest english speaking white people possible
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i speak a little french but i dont want to go to fucking france.
um france owns
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double whoa! harsh much?
dude, you have no idea what I said in that post. it was actually a very reasonable further explanation on why I think you're being judgmental.
spreek je geen nederlands ofzo??
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anyone heard where's good in south america? i've heard it's pretty beautiful. argentina? brazil? don't speak spanish so i'll have to learn. i speak a little french but i dont want to go to fucking france. what does that leave me? south africa?
I guess you just don't want to go to europe at all? because france is a brilliant country, I think I've been there 5 times in total. it's the transition between west and southern europe, the north and south having a completely different character from one another. Paris is probably the nicest city of europe (bite me, people from London and Rome) and there's a huge amount of culturally interesting buildings and places everywhere. it's also a nice central location if you want to explore the rest of the continent.
there are bunch of places in Africa where you can go to if you speak french.
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yeah a lot of north / north western africa speak french as kind of a de-facto official language. i've heard good things about algeria
p.s. paris rules suck a dick london
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no i think it's just so much easier to do france in some sort of apres college euro backpacking trip then other more exotic destinations i may never see again
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stuff it, lars!
im sorry but netherlands is pretty much the only scandinavian country outside of scandinavia
anyway being a foreign student and studying in a foreign country rocks. i was lucky enough to be allowed 6 weeks in st petersburg, russia, studying russian language as part of my computer science degree(!). it was f*in great, but i think the major reasons for that was how different russia is from norway in many ways, plus the fact that i was placed in a small appartment with an old russian lady that spoke only russian except for about 30 words in german.
have fun vesper :)
du møter sikkert mange hyggelig nederlandske pojker ;)
i speak a little french but i dont want to go to fucking france.
lol
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anyone heard where's good in south america? i've heard it's pretty beautiful. argentina? brazil? don't speak spanish so i'll have to learn. i speak a little french but i dont want to go to fucking france. what does that leave me? south africa?
i'm willing to learn a new language to go somewhere i actually want to go.
in south africa they don't speak french!
if you are looking for a place in west africa, Accra in ghana is great and they have a few good unis. every country surrounding it speaks french and it's easy and fairly cheap to travel to them. plus in ghana learning some of the local languages won't be much trouble cause there are lots of people who are really willing to teach you if you're open. not to say they aren't hard because they are but my friends there made it easy to learn.
anywhere you go in west africa you should make a huge effort to learn the local language, kind of sucks to just rely on english or whatever colonial language.
regardless of your academic interests, i'd say study abroad is great unless you're just going to stay inside and watch american movies all day, which some students managed to do in ghana.
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does anyone know if there are exchange studies on easter island
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And fuck the westboro church protesting his funeral.
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And fuck the westboro church protesting his funeral.
what
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im sorry but netherlands is pretty much the only scandinavian country outside of scandinavia
anyway being a foreign student and studying in a foreign country rocks. i was lucky enough to be allowed 6 weeks in st petersburg, russia, studying russian language as part of my computer science degree(!). it was f*in great, but i think the major reasons for that was how different russia is from norway in many ways, plus the fact that i was placed in a small appartment with an old russian lady that spoke only russian except for about 30 words in german.
have fun vesper :)
du møter sikkert mange hyggelig nederlandske pojker ;)
lol
hoppas det för att jag har hört att flickorna är ganska fula.
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hoppas det för att jag har hört att flickorna är ganska fula.
:fogetnaughty: <-- dutch girls
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i'd like to visit their netherlands
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:fogetnaughty: <-- dutch girls
not really there are some cute ones but i've seen quite a lot of ugly fat bitches
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(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/img34.imageshack.us/img34/7118/pacoidle.png)\_not really there are some cute ones but i've seen quite a lot of ugly fat bitches
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:fogetnaughty: <-- dutch girls
Ja ja! :) nsfw (http://www.datingrealgirls.com/movies.php)
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wait what
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wait what
you spontaneously started a discussion on the merits of gay anime porn in the screenshot topic. I do not believe you are an authority on these matters.
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so your saying gay people can't tell the difference between cute and ugly girls
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I think the bigger point here is that you categorise women into:
1: cute ones.
2: ugly fat bitches.
the one: 'well, obviously there are girls in between who are just okay looking but are you seriously saying that some girls aren't ugly fat bitches? lmao, seriously.'
it's just about not talking about women like that, buddy. that's all. get on board.
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wow. how did you know what i was gonna say?
anyway, im sorry if actual women here feel offended by what i said. i have the tendency of not being serious bordering on rudeness.
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The one, your gay.
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yes but only gay for you
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SOMETIMES YOU GET SO SKIBBLE YOU JUST BIBBLE
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did you know? there's nothing in the world as ruthless or impartial as death
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what about FIFA regulations
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o/ I feel offended.
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well you shouldn't be since i formally apologised and proper etiquette demands that you accept my apology and move on with your life
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my post was supposed to make it look like your avatar was saying that stuff about ugly fat bitches. and it's not about any women here getting offended, it's just an awful way to speak. it represents something despicable regardless of what you really think about women
I've heard europeans talk like this before. I saw this amateur video someone said was funny that was this french guy having sex with a girl in a pretty nice household dining room and calling her bitch and stuff in english and he was dressed kind of like Slim Shady. it was kind of funny I guess but it raised a lot of questions, because I know american hip hop culture is stupidly popular among certain crowds over there and I wonder if it makes them dumb and bigoted or they just act that way or if they already were that way and that's just why they like that music. and as we all know it's not actually 'that music' its just a perception people over there probably have
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well, okay then. i'm a despicable un-redeemable person with no love for women. fuck me, at least it's better then complimenting women (or people for that matter) when you don't really mean it. "honey, does this dress look good on me?" "uhhhh... sure, sure it does."
i realize you can't always say what you think, but for me that only holds true in real life.
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i realize you can't always say what you think, but for me that only holds true in real life.
This is the thing that's fundamentally wrong with internet forums. And I don't mean you or GW, I mean internet. Of course the social situation is different online and that old "don't say anything you wouldn't say face to face" thing is bullshit, but that has nothing to do with people completely abandoning all sense of social conduct, discretion and basic manners. The rules are different, but that doesn't mean there aren't any rules. Anonymity is one of the main culprits here, give people real names and they immediately shape up. That effect is actually amazingly strong, it can do wonders when Marge becomes Markus Hauru, even though you're still complete strangers.
This hasn't much to do with the original comment on dutch girls anymore, I've heard people say lots of stuff like that outside internet. You just hit the nail on the head with that sentence I quoted.
It's funny seeing peoples behaviour change on the net once they meet the nickname (or even the real name) in person. Even those who behave politely and emphatically. People continuously say stuff you consider stupid or you think that they're wrong in something and normally you let most of it pass. It may change your view of the person and your behaviour towards them but you don't immediately stand up and declare "That, is incorrect! I want to debate this!". Like what I'm doing here.
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some of my friends are real dingbats on the internet.
well, okay then. i'm a despicable un-redeemable person with no love for women
no one thinks this, especially the unredeemable part. there isn't even anything to redeem. the fact that you conceded instead of insisting you should be able to call women fat bitches means a lot and I don't think anyone who complained here is stupid enough to hold e-posts against someone
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This is the thing that's fundamentally wrong with internet forums. And I don't mean you or GW, I mean internet. Of course the social situation is different online and that old "don't say anything you wouldn't say face to face" thing is bullshit, but that has nothing to do with people completely abandoning all sense of social conduct, discretion and basic manners. The rules are different, but that doesn't mean there aren't any rules. Anonymity is one of the main culprits here, give people real names and they immediately shape up. That effect is actually amazingly strong, it can do wonders when Marge becomes Markus Hauru, even though you're still complete strangers.
This hasn't much to do with the original comment on dutch girls anymore, I've heard people say lots of stuff like that outside internet. You just hit the nail on the head with that sentence I quoted.
It's funny seeing peoples behaviour change on the net once they meet the nickname (or even the real name) in person. Even those who behave politely and emphatically. People continuously say stuff you consider stupid or you think that they're wrong in something and normally you let most of it pass. It may change your view of the person and your behaviour towards them but you don't immediately stand up and declare "That, is incorrect! I want to debate this!". Like what I'm doing here.
that's the only reason people do it. it's a feeling of freedom to say whatever the hell you want without any consequences. the entire concept of "trolling" is built upon that.
i myself have done a lot of bullshit on the internet, especially when i was younger. i can't even count anymore how many forums / online games i got banned from. you don't feel the consequences on the internet, you're not realizing that you're talking to an actual person.
but whatever, the internet will never change
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so your saying gay people can't tell the difference between cute and ugly girls
I wasn't actually being serious when I made that comment. (but I like how you ignored the whole anime porn bit.)
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http://travel.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/travel/21next.html
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I wasn't actually being serious when I made that comment. (but I like how you ignored the whole anime porn bit.)
you were right, so there wasn't really a need to reply to it. i could have said "you're right" or "true", but i think you knew yourself that you were right, because if you didn't think you were right then you would have thought you had no right to post that
so in short, you're right
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but whatever, the internet will never change
My dream is that the next GW will have credit card based identification to force everybody use their real name.
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yeah because that would make a huge difference. whether your name is "Marge" or "Maria Johnson", people aren't gonna act any different
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yeah because that would make a huge difference. whether your name is "Marge" or "Maria Johnson", people aren't gonna act any different
you'd be surprised.
edit: what happens when your future employer googles your name and finds you making tons of shitposts on gw??? WELP.
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yeah, honestly. like gaming world would even pop up in google. but aside from that, i'm not worried. my name is not anywhere on this website, or anywhere else. we've been warned about that plenty on school, and i'm actually pretty careful about that. sure, you can google my name, but the only thing you'll find is other people who share my name.
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yeah, honestly. like gaming world would even pop up in google. but aside from that, i'm not worried. my name is not anywhere on this website, or anywhere else. we've been warned about that plenty on school, and i'm actually pretty careful about that. sure, you can google my name, but the only thing you'll find is other people who share my name.
that's what he's saying though, if you were forced to use your real name you might NOT act the fool
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As long as there's no photo or any other information to link it to, it's still harmless. But that's also my point; people tend to act that way on the internet because it's anonymous. It would become pointless if everyone on the internet could be identified by name and information.
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As long as there's no photo or any other information to link it to, it's still harmless. But that's also my point; people tend to act that way on the internet because it's anonymous. It would become pointless if everyone on the internet could be identified by name and information.
Uh, this is also Marge's point! Idk why you are acting like you are making a different point because this is exactly what Marge was saying.
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yeah i know but i was trying to explain why you shouldn't give all your personal information on the internet...............
nevermind, didn't we pass this around post #57?
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yeah because that would make a huge difference. whether your name is "Marge" or "Maria Johnson", people aren't gonna act any different
But that's also my point; people tend to act that way on the internet because it's anonymous. It would become pointless if everyone on the internet could be identified by name and information.
:welp:
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yeah the difference lies in the additional information. there's no meaning in just a name, even if it's real. like i said a few posts ago, googling my name only results in finding other people.
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that depends on the person. like I've got the same name as a president's kid so I'm safe, but people like my sister almost have the whole first page dedicated to them
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well, if you have a common name, if you're careful you won't be found easily on the internet. but if you're a person who happily fills out their myspace and facebook pages with personal information, it gets a lot easier.
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its really hard to find me on google cause i have the same name as a porn star