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Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Mongoloid on July 05, 2010, 07:48:38 am
ehy guys

i have stumbled upon some spoilers for whats goin on in one piece right now so i went back and redownloaded everything have been reading the manga alot lately
i tried watching the anime when it was 4kids but it was too kiddy and the voices made me cringe

i know it got sold to funimation so im wondering if anyone can say that it better enough that it's worth watching
just finished watching/downloaded s-cry-ed (subbed) a month ago which is pretty short so i'm wondering if one piece is too long, i think we're talking about a solid months worth of episodes

also if its any good im willing to watch the subs instead, i do really enjoy reading the footnotes that explain the culturally relevant bits

so yea this topic is mostly about one piece but there aren't any anime topics at all so...
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Massy2k6 on July 05, 2010, 08:44:58 am
so yea this topic is mostly about one piece but there aren't any anime topics at all so...

Because most people on the forum go ape s*$t when you mention anime.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 05, 2010, 11:21:23 am
Because most people on the forum go ape s*$t when you mention anime.

No they don't???
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: dada on July 05, 2010, 03:09:57 pm
i tried watching the anime when it was 4kids but it was too kiddy and the voices made me cringe
well, that's exactly what it is. it's for prepubescent children by design. although later on it arguably does get more serious, you shouldn't watch this show if you have a problem with it not having been made for your age.

I personally don't care since I like cartoons for pretty much all ages as long as they're made by talented people or studios, but you might want to think twice before getting started on this one since there are 457 episodes already. it's been running for more than 10 years.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on July 05, 2010, 04:20:02 pm
ook ook ack ack. ooga booga
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: dragonx on July 05, 2010, 05:20:52 pm
one piece???? at least watch a GOOD anime...
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Mongoloid on July 05, 2010, 05:29:55 pm
well, that's exactly what it is. it's for prepubescent children by design. although later on it arguably does get more serious, you shouldn't watch this show if you have a problem with it not having been made for your age.

I personally don't care since I like cartoons for pretty much all ages as long as they're made by talented people or studios, but you might want to think twice before getting started on this one since there are 457 episodes already. it's been running for more than 10 years.

ive made peace with it as one of my more emasculating qualities but one piece is specifically interesting to me because of the pirate thing, for what it's worth. the exaggerated characters etc... imo are retty great in one piece because of the target age (guy who fights with a sword in his mouth, guy who smokes 2 cigarettes at once) but there are a lot of things its hard for me to believe children could follow ie. the government in general.  anyway the comics are very good and the artwork is consistently different than anything i've seen. im guessing you googled 456 and don't care for this show?


I tried O-Parts hunter too, which was great- had a dragonball feel to it, but it wasn't finished afaik and the story goes "shipuuden" halfway through and then just stops.
i really can't stand naruto anymore
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 05, 2010, 11:28:19 pm
hey guys is there a list of animes you can watch and still be a coolguy. Like the anime for coolguys list. Is Ghost in the Shell still cool? No but seriously I mean stuff like that was big before anime got mainstream and I can see where it has CROSSOVER appeal or whatever that word is. Most anime is just so entrenched in its own idiosyncratic stuff I mean comic books or whatever are the same way why's Superman's hair all wavy like that is he elvis #2 I don't get it or like stuff with women is uncomfortable in anime like constantly but so is Wonder Woman's costume but it's american pop culture and nobody takes it seriously. I'm also convinced that a bunch of anime people are like not really judging it against all media/pop culture like maybe someone's seen Lupin 3rd but not heard of James Bond or whatever he's closest to in Western pop culture. I dunno I'm convinced it's like a cult like somebody can have RED HAIR and they've been brainwashed into being really wowed by this. Or they're all secretly into anime porn even the ones who say they're not it just reminds me of like a boy band or something people who have proportionally like negative talent it actually takes below average talent to sing that way but they're hawt omg. It also reminds me of stuff like soap operas and I was like I sort of wish I could get into soap operas because I'm sort of jealous of their ability to be enthralled with such bad writing and acting and stuff (like soap operas are on that same level of awfulness where it almost becomes its own aesthetic like the anime aesthetic) and then I remembered soap operas are only watched for omg hawt too right?
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 06, 2010, 02:03:06 am
No Ragnar, soap operas are watched purely out of habit.  I watch The Young and the Restless on a semi-often basis (frankly you can miss a week or two and not really miss anything) only because my mom started watching it when she was 17 and it first aired, and so I grew up watching it and it was just sort of a THING that existed in the back of my head always.  I'm used to watching it when my mom comes home, and I actually think that I'll end up watching it when I move out too, just because I guess it becomes one of those habitual comfort things.

The thing about it is, soap operas are nothing but daily cliffhangers.  You can never get a sense of completeness out of a soap opera EVER.  Every episode makes sure to give you a reason to watch the next one, or else there'd be no reason to watch any of them.  The writing is shoddy, the plotlines make no sense and if you actually have been paying attention for the last 30 or whatever years you can see huge gaping holes in their stories.  But, if tomorrow you get to see who killed so-and-so but you don't get to see how the other guy does in his trial until the next day, and this cycle continues, then you will never feel like anything is finished and if that bothers you you are therefore forced to keep up with it forever.

At the same time, I think like you said it has its own weird awful aesthetic.  It's almost like a sort of kitsch value, the tackiness and that SOAP OPERA FEELING sort of give it a weird vibe of its own.  Here's a bunch of people living in some town in Wisconsin or whatever and every other person has an evil doppelgänger that shows up on occasion to try to kill them.  It's like a weird fantastic bizarro fantasy world where people are constantly stealing each others' faces via plastic surgery, and that is pretty damn great to think about in those terms.

What the fuck does this have to do with anime?  I don't know.  The only animes I really like watching are ones that are pretty unforgivable.  Go watch some Rose of Versailles everyone.  Please.  Oscarruuuuuu~
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Mongoloid on July 06, 2010, 02:36:56 am
i had this huge post typed out and i deleted it because i feel like its silly to even debate whether anime being good or bad is objective, but ill just ask this:

do you think what you get from the shows/books/movies is any more valuable to you than what stay at home moms and whoever gets out of soaps? how about kids books? sports? music?

like i do this a lot (delete my posts) so that im not fighting with people all the time but posts like that really piss me off where people can assume their tastes are better/intelligent/whatever and not feel even a little bit pretentious. it really defeats the purpose of having a media forum unless the goal is just to insult people!
really this is my biggest problem with gw, not that you can't think highly of yourself or know that you are a pretty smart person with good tastes, but being so disrespectful to each other as to suggest people who like things you don't are 'brainwashed' seems beyond petty to me
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on July 06, 2010, 03:21:33 am
I have no idea what you're talking about concerning GW but you seem really confused about criticism in general. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand. do you really experience nothing like this irl

I don't know how to respond to the rest of that post. brainwashing man we are not 15 just ignore all these posts, no one's making fun of you and no one cares what you personally like it doesn't matter. if people wanna talk about some anime aesthetic and that for some reason sounds offensive to you, you could ignore it or explain why they're wrong instead of getting frustrated and bent out of shape bc someone doesn't like the thing you l;ike
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: tuxedo marx on July 06, 2010, 03:58:55 am
i keep telling myself that one of these days i'll watch some of the original macross and i've never got round to it
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 06, 2010, 11:34:18 am
Mongoloid who are you even talking to?  Ragnar?  Because he was basically saying it was the same for a LOT of things, not just anime (did...did you actually READ it???  or did you just read the words brainwashing and anime porn and get angry?)

I'm pretty sure this topic has entirely been people who like animes or just don't care, what are you getting angry about???
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: big ass skelly on July 06, 2010, 12:47:28 pm
aminé
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on July 06, 2010, 04:37:49 pm
hey guys is there a list of animes you can watch and still be a coolguy. Like the anime for coolguys list. Is Ghost in the Shell still cool?

I got your coolguy anime list right here (in alphabetical order):

Beck
Cowboy Bebop

Yup, I'm pretty sure that covers them all.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: DDay on July 06, 2010, 05:58:17 pm
I got your coolguy anime list right here (in alphabetical order):

Beck
Cowboy Bebop

Yup, I'm pretty sure that covers them all.

Where is hellsing on that list?

BTW watching heroman witch isn't sp bad.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: bonzi_buddy on July 06, 2010, 06:39:22 pm
ragnar if you want to know if manga is any worth plunging into, here's a real-easy way to test it out: go to OneManga.com and choose any of the updated series from the list (bear the embarrassing names). check few first pages.
ok start go, fill me up with what you found! pay extra attention to girls/women in those first pages and in how they are represented

also honestly without any attacking/making fun, your last post is kinda confusing Mongoloid so you could/could you clear it up
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 06, 2010, 10:00:05 pm
do you think what you get from the shows/books/movies is any more valuable to you than what stay at home moms and whoever gets out of soaps? how about kids books? sports? music?

I was actually sort of semi-defending anime stuff because I think it's no different than a soap opera or whatever like their taste in it is just as legitimate and I think anything like this has a certain FEEL on at least a basic level, I at least sort of still like anime better in principle than random CGI superhero movie of the week because at least anime has a familiar feel to go back to, random superhero movie almost always feels like they're just throwing shit all over the place and maybe if they're feeling ambitious attempt to make some half-assed commentary on Iraq etc. I really can't see it as a film style people will REVISIT, make homages/parodies of like the campy old Batman TV show. Anime/soap operas are at least complete enough you can whip up a witty enough parody of one of them. oh yeah Simn City did have a pretty good feel to it it was like the worst thing ever made as far as story/themes but it did have an aesthetic like a lot of NOIR-y feel to it it was like film noir the fuck. I am honestly interested in this shit like putting random shit in there for the sake of completeness if soap operas didn't have the cheesy music would people feel distressed/confused? If anime didn't do the sweatdrop thing or draw the eyes with exact ISO-9001 proportions would people march to the streets in protest? Why was it so godawful when Sub-Zero was just a dude in that one Mortal Kombat game and not generic faceless ninja? If the box of mashed potatoes didn't have mysterious floating spoon scooping the potatoes and holding it to your face and use the word 'home' combined with some other word like 'style' and/or mention that it comes from Idaho would people figure well maybe there's breadfruit in there and not potatoes after all. Do people have some internal measure/sixth sense of how good Idaho potatoes are compared to shitty potatoes from other states? But yeah I do think it's like minor brainwashing, and like false or easily exploitable feelings in these sorts of things. Sort of Pavlovian imo
I also love in electronic music circles how some guy had supposedly scientifically deducted that the waveform of the amen break http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break equals the golden ratio in some way and not just that it's been overused so much it just kind of 'sounds' like a hip-hop/drum and bass record even if you know nothing about making those varieties of music it's a very easy/exploitable way to get the same feel. I'm waiting for someone to find the golden ratio in anime face

oh yeah I do think stuff like Dragon Ball Z/Naruto that's about 16490 episodes long and somehow ends each episode on a cliffhanger is like soap operas for straight teenage males

and by completeness I didn't mean like fulfilling MY LIFE IS COMPLETE I meant like consistent internal logic or whatever that term is

also a lot of videogames are probably like this the creator of Dragon Warrior admitted in an interview he's a gambler and when he designed the game he wanted it to feel like a slot machine. So yeah I think a lot of stuff exploits whatever can be exploited emotionally in people/is just a little like crack

Edit: 'cracky'

Edit: j.j. abrams

Edit: but yeah I think anime draws a lot of flack because it's ridiculously unsubtle compared to j.j.abrams etc. people took a while to figure out his tropes anime is like a CODEX of it's own symbols/ready-made characters/plotlines. You can almost see the seams of the 2 or 3 character types as you're watching it. But plenty of stuff is just as cheap it's just more compleximicated/more difficult to figure out the structure. I would say anime and soap operas are neck in neck for which one more blatantly flaunts its plot devices

Edit: throws random insane expectation of people out there - all directors should make one movie and then quit the business fucking coen brothers have been making the same movie for 30 years too bad if you like them
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Buttkiller on July 07, 2010, 02:53:43 am
hey guys is there a list of animes you can watch and still be a coolguy. Like the anime for coolguys list. Is Ghost in the Shell still cool? No but seriously I mean stuff like that was big before anime got mainstream and I can see where it has CROSSOVER appeal or whatever that word is. Most anime is just so entrenched in its own idiosyncratic stuff I mean comic books or whatever are the same way why's Superman's hair all wavy like that is he elvis #2 I don't get it or like stuff with women is uncomfortable in anime like constantly but so is Wonder Woman's costume but it's american pop culture and nobody takes it seriously. I'm also convinced that a bunch of anime people are like not really judging it against all media/pop culture like maybe someone's seen Lupin 3rd but not heard of James Bond or whatever he's closest to in Western pop culture. I dunno I'm convinced it's like a cult like somebody can have RED HAIR and they've been brainwashed into being really wowed by this. Or they're all secretly into anime porn even the ones who say they're not it just reminds me of like a boy band or something people who have proportionally like negative talent it actually takes below average talent to sing that way but they're hawt omg. It also reminds me of stuff like soap operas and I was like I sort of wish I could get into soap operas because I'm sort of jealous of their ability to be enthralled with such bad writing and acting and stuff (like soap operas are on that same level of awfulness where it almost becomes its own aesthetic like the anime aesthetic) and then I remembered soap operas are only watched for omg hawt too right?

iits like you can read my mind
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 07, 2010, 03:35:05 am
speaking of the whole watching soap operas for kitsch value is there a sizable portion of people who watch anime for the same reason? I dunno the internet also makes it seem like everyone ever is pretty hardcore about it like we're ironic about it but I don't think most of GW watches anime anymore is there anybody who watches it ironically and... still wants to watch anime

also yeah when somebody says anime I assume they mean naruto or something I watched a couple of movies at some point (was probably over a thousand years ago already) I could honestly probably get into a anime movie still but anime series piss me off like it's LIKE a soap opera but yeah our budget is kind of short and sometimes only the mouths move sry. Basically most anime is fucking ruined even if you think the idea is bad to begin with I would've genuinely been interested in a short to-the-point version of Dragon Ball Z like 20 episodes and like actually had frames of animation and cinematography and genuine excitement. I mean essentially Dragon Ball Z looked like a comic book given the illusion of movement even if there were a lot of shots and animation not in the comic it almost seems like somebody filmed the panels of a comic book and called it cartoon. Like sorry Japan do you even understand the point of making a cartoon

but yeah I really do think it's a 'feel' sort of thing, where it's appealing because nothing quite feels like an anime like there is so much stuff they could improve nowadays - aren't all anime voices still super-squeaky/whiney I would think they could find less cheesy voice actors now but it's left in as an integral part of the style... or something

but yeah I was also just trying to piss people off it's hot and all I have to do right now is like post on GW or be hot

Edit: I definitely stand by that though most animes look like a fun appealing idea at the very least for kids but done in the most watered-down style humanly possible Dragon Ball Z was like really fucking weird with that whole plot where Vegeta and what's his face made a couple of stops before Earth and each episode was actually something different and seemed fairly well-done but then like I'd say 200 episodes they were on that other planet with Frieza and it was like green shit everywhere for 200 episodes it was literally a palette swap of Earth how does this not seem cheap at all. I stand by my original opinion that is the shittiest bullshit ever
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on July 07, 2010, 04:20:42 am
but yeah I really do think it's a 'feel' sort of thing, where it's appealing because nothing quite feels like an anime like there is so much stuff they could improve nowadays - aren't all anime voices still super-squeaky/whiney I would think they could find less cheesy voice actors now but it's left in as an integral part of the style... or something
yeah this is true. I've actually typed up something about this before somewhere but I can't get myself interested enough to do it again

one part you're overlooking is that a lot of these series are essentially marketing in themselves and part of the reason they keep doing things over and over again is because it has worked in the past and is known to draw in viewers. but I also think that by now there are the people who are products of this aesthetic and ahve grown to love it getting involved in the creation process and recycling shit without even realizing it
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 07, 2010, 11:18:21 am
speaking of the whole watching soap operas for kitsch value is there a sizable portion of people who watch anime for the same reason? I dunno the internet also makes it seem like everyone ever is pretty hardcore about it like we're ironic about it but I don't think most of GW watches anime anymore is there anybody who watches it ironically and... still wants to watch anime

I don't think I'd call it for kitsch value but I do watch animes almost entirely out of nostalgia.  I mean, the last two animes I watched were Sailor Moon and Rayearth.  These are shows I'm definitely not watch for art's sake, they're just goofy things from my childhood I want to revisit.  And I still really LIKE them, but I wouldn't say that they are GOOD.  Unless I'm forgetting something, Rose of Versailles is the only actual NEW anime I've watched in a long time (not counting stuff like Ponyo that's pretty mainstream).
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 07, 2010, 07:20:13 pm
yeah i might watch a miyazaki film sometime but they got reviewed in like TV Guide even a million years ago before F.Y.E. and crap like that amine got mainstream

'things don't get bad they just become mainstream' - my brother

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Ponyo's name is an onomatopoeia, based on Miyazaki's idea of what a "soft, squishy softness" sounds like when touched.

I could see where Sailor Moon would feel AUTHENTIC or something while not actually being good. Maybe that's not the word but I got nostalgic for Linkin Park of all things the other day because at least they seemed authentic or something (again maybe that's not the word?? maybe they BELIEVED in themselves) or just enough people took them seriously at the time they actually were part of growing up more than (looks up totally awesome avant-garde musics on youtube) I wish I knew somebody like SQUAREPUSHER when they were brand-new and not just via an internet flash movie 20 years later
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 07, 2010, 09:25:03 pm
I think the nice thing about Sailor Moon is that it meshed so well with the rest of the stuff going on around the same time.  It was intended to be a girl-version of Power Rangers, which was also big in the US at the same time as Sailor Moon, and was also one of my favorite shows.  So it never felt like I AM WATCHING AN AMINES, it was I AM WATCHING CARTOONS AW YEAH PEW PEW PEW BEAT THAT BAD GUY.  I mean Sailor Moon wasn't really any different than regular american super heroes.  So I guess it never had that feeling of OTHER.  Even the art style, that didn't feel weird because I grew up with tons of other Korean-animated cartoons that were otherwise Canadian made (INSPECTOR GADGET ANYONE?)  So it just felt like a normal natural cartoon it never felt like some special thing that went under "anime".  It was just cartoons and it was rad.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 07, 2010, 09:57:28 pm
I was actually going to say the older animes from when we were kids probably did feel a little 'off' was an interesting change of pace from the American 'western' style. I was thinking it was sort of refreshing because everything else was sort of a product of western pop culture at the time but with anime we got all this random shit from another country from different time periods too (weren't the original Dragon Ball episodes from the 70's or something??) but yeah now it's not unique at all and the separate category 'Anime' does put me off. Like I was saying places like FYE have it in this different section it kind of welcomes ridicule because it has to be this separate group of cartoons/can't call it cartoons. It's like having to call it a decaf mocha-cappucino instead of COFFEE

wasn't G.I. JOE or some other quissential american cartoon animated in Japan or Korea
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Alec on July 08, 2010, 02:15:52 am
Hey ragnar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayon_Shin-chan

Different. I've only seen like one episode though so I don't really know if it's any good.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: tuxedo marx on July 08, 2010, 02:20:38 am
wasn't G.I. JOE or some other quissential american cartoon animated in Japan or Korea
transformers, toei animated it
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on July 08, 2010, 02:38:17 am
Hey ragnar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayon_Shin-chan

Different. I've only seen like one episode though so I don't really know if it's any good.
I haven't seen that, but speaking of stuff done in a more cartoony style I remember back when I saw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbors_the_Yamadas I thought it was really good.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Kaworu on July 08, 2010, 06:10:24 pm
most of the sunbow cartoons in the 80's were animated in east asia, gi joe, transformers, visionaries and co. Like it wasn't just Toei, it was various companies from various countries (and some saddos on the transformers wiki can work out which depending on the quality/amount of errors, keeps the aspies busy I guess!)

I started watching bad anime lately, the bright hair colours and constant noise are kinda nice to wake you up, kinda like childrens television. And since about 90% of them are just recycles of ROTTK stories just SET IN HIGH SCHOOL or some shit, you don't really have to put much thought into the stories/characters.

Also Haruhi is kinda nice to relax to.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: everyclear on July 09, 2010, 05:34:45 pm
ugh haruhi is the most infuriating thing ever. I want to punch every single one of the characters in that fucking show.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 09, 2010, 05:42:56 pm
i started watching haruhi once.  i started with that non-really-an-episode episode where they make their own low budget movie and it made me laugh my ass off.  then i watched the next few episodes and i realized the whole show wasn't like that episode and i quit because it was boring the fuck out of me.

haruhi would have ruled if every episode was them making a movie.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: DDay on July 09, 2010, 06:32:28 pm
I wish 3x3 Eyes was fully animated like the OVA it was so bad ass. It was begging for an anime series in fact we would of had one if it wasn't for the fucking censorship laws changing in Japan.


From wiki:
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Various games came out based on the 3x3 Eyes manga on the Japanese Super Famicom, Satellaview (BS 3ji no Wide Syou), Saturn, PC Engine (3×3 Eyes ~Sanjiyan Henjyo~), FM Towns, PC 98, PC, Sega CD, PlayStation, and the Game Boy. They featured new characters, music and artwork. Volume 40 of the manga, the last volume, has been published in two versions, one of which includes a PC game.

A TV series was being considered at around the time the manga ended in 2002. However, due to the then-recent Japanese censorship laws, it wasn't made.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 09, 2010, 06:42:47 pm
FM Towns is the most retarded name for a gaming system ever
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on July 09, 2010, 06:47:57 pm
haruhi was hard to watch even back when I watched anime

I do wonder tho if haruhi really started this moe era anime seems to be in now or if it's just the magnum opus of moe.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 09, 2010, 06:51:13 pm
haruhi was hard to watch even back when I watched anime

I do wonder tho if haruhi really started this moe era anime seems to be in now or if it's just the magnum opus of moe.

i think it's the latter, i don't think it started it but i think it's the best example of it (and how awful it is)
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: everyclear on July 09, 2010, 06:54:17 pm
i started watching haruhi once.  i started with that non-really-an-episode episode where they make their own low budget movie and it made me laugh my ass off.  then i watched the next few episodes and i realized the whole show wasn't like that episode and i quit because it was boring the fuck out of me.

haruhi would have ruled if every episode was them making a movie.

yeah that is how i saw it too.  I think its because that is the first episode that is labeled in the most seeded torrent of it that I could find at the time, and apparently there has been lots of funny business with how the whole series was labeled in air-dates and the order that went onto the released DVD set or whatever, but basically what happened resulted in like fucked up ordering of all the torrents and this epsiode got put first in a lot of them or something.  It was also the only episode that really didn't completely suck.  I really don't know why I ended up letting myself watch the rest of the series after seeing how disastorously painful the first few episodes after that were, but I can at least say that I have endured the punishment enough to know that it was a terrible series.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Kaworu on July 09, 2010, 06:57:56 pm
surely lucky star is moe's magnum opus?
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 09, 2010, 07:24:21 pm
I think I watched about 7 episodes of Haruhi, but I have no clue how that whole out-of-order business was reflected in how I watched it.  It didn't really make any sense so I'm guessing I was watching it "the way it's supposed to be watched" or w/e.  That's when I realized they were no longer going to be making movies and I couldn't give a shit about the alien or whatever business was going on.

Unrelated to Haruhi, can someone recommend me some sci-fi animes that are actually like TRADITIONAL SCI-FI and not about dang robots?  Nothing obvious like Cowboy Bebop either.  Ideally stuff from like the 70s or 80s really, just sci-fi in space and whatnot.  I really liked Crusher Joe and Dirty Pair if that helps (these are both by the same guy but surely he's not the only one that made animes like this that weren't about giant fuckin mechs I couldn't give a shit about mechs).
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Kaworu on July 09, 2010, 08:03:35 pm
I like it, It's not all dumb magical princess shit and is just like a bunch of guys goofing around, and the magical alienness of it never becomes THE MAIN POINT apart from about two episodes. It's just nice to relax with. I mean an episode about picking up a heater from a store is quite a nice break from typical anime.
meh the second series had 8 episodes in a row with virtually the exact same thing happening just with like different clothes or slightly different dialogue until the eigth one as Haruhi had created a time loop, which could only be broken by Kyon wanting to do homework. quite boring, but pretty relaxing.
It's one of the few series that I can stomach.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: big ass skelly on July 09, 2010, 08:53:24 pm
You people, you cunts, clearly didn't GET haruhi
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Rajew on July 10, 2010, 03:28:18 am
yo i'm repurposing this thread for my own...purposes

when i was some age between 8 and 12( so between 12 and 8 years ago) i saw a tiny part of one episode of some anime on cartoon network that is luckily sci-fi and might not be gundam so Vellfire this could help both of us.

Basically, all I saw was two people (a guy and a girl) were trapped in what seemed to be a storage bay for a space station or space ship of some sort. They're starving, so the guy floats out into space, and stabs a giant space fish, hauls it back, they cook it. Then a door opens and the people of the spaceship/space station help them out of the storage bay. yay they are saved!

Does anyone know what amine this is? I want to know about the space fish!!!
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Rayne on July 10, 2010, 04:04:21 am
That would be Robotech/Macross. It has transforming plane robots, sorry.

I hear Legend of the Galactic Heroes is supposed to be a pretty good pure sci-fi series. I haven't seen it though.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Rajew on July 10, 2010, 04:16:15 am
and thus ends my 10 year quest....
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Ragnar on July 10, 2010, 05:07:03 am
for general sci-fi anime I remember on the sci-fi channel a million years ago they had random animes and there was this Project A-ko movie and I dunno there was the first movie that was like a parody of superhero shit and a lot of animes and there was a second one that was like sci-fi space opera shit and might've been making fun of Dirty Pair I dunno. But it might've been edited for sci-fi channel and was actually porn. But there was some movie within the movie about an evil Colonel Sanders which was epic

also some other one called Venus Wars which was like obviously A WAR ON VENUS might've been all mecha I don't remember

there was also some movie about a high-tech hospital bed for old people which goes on a rampage (shit I guess that's sort of mecha too)
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: flashstar1234 on July 10, 2010, 08:36:16 am
There are two anime series which I have just finished watching, One piece (Yes, all 457) and FMA brotherhood. At first I stuck to the subs made by Kaizoku-fansubs for OP but later switched to other fansubbers because they take way too long to sub a single episode. It starts out very childish but later gives a more darker feel in the Impel Down saga. The Whitebeard Saga currently in the making is probably going to be the best saga because a certain someone I would only recommend watching the series if you can put up with filler episodes (A lot of them).
 
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 10, 2010, 10:06:35 am
for general sci-fi anime I remember on the sci-fi channel a million years ago they had random animes and there was this Project A-ko movie and I dunno there was the first movie that was like a parody of superhero shit and a lot of animes and there was a second one that was like sci-fi space opera shit and might've been making fun of Dirty Pair I dunno. But it might've been edited for sci-fi channel and was actually porn. But there was some movie within the movie about an evil Colonel Sanders which was epic

Woah I remember seeing the exact same thing on the exact same channel now.  As soon as you said Project A-ko tons of images of giant red hair flooded my head.  Too bad that's about all I can remember (that....that hair.....)
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: DDay on July 10, 2010, 06:43:46 pm

I would of loved to see it as a full anime series but I'm stuck only watching the OVA of what it could of been.

Or a crappy drawn Manga witch I guess I could ignore images for the good story but I would be missing on excessive blood and gore + there a lot of volumes.


Edit:
You know what I think I should start reading it...but I Still wish it could of been an anime... got alot of reading too do... Sadly.

Took me about 6 to 7 day to read up to 97  of full metal alchemist. (mind you this wasn't non stop) so I can plan for it to take me about a month and a few days to get up too 506 chapter and too find out that's not all of it.. so I need to find another site for the rest. :(​  I would Have about 5 more books to go since 506 ends it at book 35 out of 40.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on July 11, 2010, 01:14:17 am
3x3 eyes is just like project a-ko for me.  that is, it's something i distinctly remember watching but remember NOTHING ABOUT

like honestly if you asked me to tell you the plot of project a-ko all i could tell you is GIRL HAS LOTS OF RED HAIR.  if you ask me the plot of 3x3 eyes i can tell you I THINK A GIRL HAD A THIRD EYE ON HER FOREHEAD OR AM I JUST MAKING THIS UP BASED ON THE TITLE.  it's so weird how you can remember that you definitely saw something but not remember any details
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: DDay on July 11, 2010, 05:41:46 am
3x3 eyes is just like project a-ko for me.  that is, it's something i distinctly remember watching but remember NOTHING ABOUT

like honestly if you asked me to tell you the plot of project a-ko all i could tell you is GIRL HAS LOTS OF RED HAIR.  if you ask me the plot of 3x3 eyes i can tell you I THINK A GIRL HAD A THIRD EYE ON HER FOREHEAD OR AM I JUST MAKING THIS UP BASED ON THE TITLE.  it's so weird how you can remember that you definitely saw something but not remember any details

Your right she has 3 eyes, has a split personalty and  she also totes around a WU. (Pretty much an Immortal but only for the fact that she has his soul) She is pretty much can live forever but can be killed. So for the most part the WU/Yakumo is suppose to protect her and help her to become human before she is used to destroy the world.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: pig style on November 08, 2010, 06:17:04 pm
So I just finished watching Claymore and I thought it was pretty cool, but unlike a lot of animes I think it would of actually been worthy of a second arc. I'm trying to watch Soul Eater, the animation is pretty superb but I kind of hate everything else about it.

Most anime kind of suffers from inconsistent animation between episodes and shit. I couldn't really see this in Claymore and Soul Eater looks to be the same. Are there any other shows where they take the animation quality seriously?
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Massy2k6 on November 08, 2010, 08:38:45 pm
I've always loved Claymore and always regret they only made the one season.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on November 08, 2010, 10:56:25 pm
so since this has been bumped anyone wanna rec me some old animes?  latest i would want is early/mid 80s but i'd prefer stuff from the 60s and 70s.  i have watched rose of versailles and cutie honey not too long ago and i'm gonna start watching lupin iii soon (and rewatching dirty pair) so plz tell me things
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: dragonx on November 08, 2010, 11:02:16 pm
omgggg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObZvwJaqhBc this one is really good
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on November 09, 2010, 12:44:34 am
dx if you do not stop i am going to toss your bangs right out of here
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: benos on November 09, 2010, 02:04:34 am
Apeshit?. Well I'll say Naruto and make you go that way. :p
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Warped655 on November 09, 2010, 02:30:57 am
Oddly enough I don't consider myself a huge anime fan, but I've watched a decent amount of anime. This is more due to the fact that I consume Media in all forms in massive amounts, in any format, from any country.

Some of the only animes I've finished: (There might be more that I just haven't thought of)

Death Note - Pretty good but terrible, awful, ending.

Samurai Champloo - Made by the Cowboy Bebop guy, really fucking good overall, but some individual episodes are a bit dull unless you've watched past episodes. Watch this one in order

Higurashi - One of the best. Story was excellent. It seemed really well made too. It, uh, Gets kind of gruesome though.

Hellsing (Non OVA one) - Meh. Ok I guess, I've heard the OVA is much better.

Ones I'd like to see that I haven't:
Cowboy Bebop

Ones my Friends have all nearly unanimously recommend:
Yu Yu Hakasho (spelling?)
One Piece
Soul Eater (Mainly for its action, not story)

Ones I've seen parts of:
DBZ
FLCL (Yeah, I know there are only 6 episodes, I just haven't gotten around to watching ok...)
Sailor Moon

Sort of following One Piece but I stopped at like episode 300 something. I'll probably get back around to watching the rest and catch up. It's a good anime mostly. It's got some meh parts though, and all the best parts were early on. but its still relatively consistent in quality and the characters are well developed.

I don't think I've watched an anime in a long while, like maybe a year or so... But I'm not actively avoid them. I just got other stuff on my priority list of media and entertainment.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Alec on November 09, 2010, 02:38:55 am
Higurashi - One of the best. Story was excellent. It seemed really well made too. It, uh, Gets kind of gruesome though.
I 100% agree with you on this. I got my mom hooked on it, too. I was over yesterday and we watched like ten more episodes of it. A lot of people seem to hate the dub on it but it doesn't bother me at all. I watched the second and third seasons subbed and don't really have a preference as far as casting goes (but some of the translations in the subs are really, really bad. fansubs  :welp:​)

EDIT:
I've been watching a bit more anime lately, but pretty much only the ones that are on hulu. Demon Lord Dante is pretty good (although the animation isn't that great), but apparently it's just a more confusing Devilman (which I haven't seen).

If you haven't seen Now and Then, Here and Now, do yourself a favor and watch it.  It's only 13 episodes long and it's really good.

Other than that I've just been finding anime that's probably really terrible but is entertaining to me. I watched both seasons of Ah! My Goddess, for example.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: benos on November 09, 2010, 05:10:25 am
Burn up W.

Excel Saga.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: dragonx on November 09, 2010, 08:51:07 pm
Oddly enough I don't consider myself a huge anime fan, but I've watched a decent amount of anime. This is more due to the fact that I consume Media in all forms in massive amounts, in any format, from any country.

Some of the only animes I've finished: (There might be more that I just haven't thought of)

Death Note - Pretty good but terrible, awful, ending.

Samurai Champloo - Made by the Cowboy Bebop guy, really fucking good overall, but some individual episodes are a bit dull unless you've watched past episodes. Watch this one in order

Higurashi - One of the best. Story was excellent. It seemed really well made too. It, uh, Gets kind of gruesome though.

Hellsing (Non OVA one) - Meh. Ok I guess, I've heard the OVA is much better.

Ones I'd like to see that I haven't:
Cowboy Bebop

Ones my Friends have all nearly unanimously recommend:
Yu Yu Hakasho (spelling?)
One Piece
Soul Eater (Mainly for its action, not story)

Ones I've seen parts of:
DBZ
FLCL (Yeah, I know there are only 6 episodes, I just haven't gotten around to watching ok...)
Sailor Moon

Sort of following One Piece but I stopped at like episode 300 something. I'll probably get back around to watching the rest and catch up. It's a good anime mostly. It's got some meh parts though, and all the best parts were early on. but its still relatively consistent in quality and the characters are well developed.

I don't think I've watched an anime in a long while, like maybe a year or so... But I'm not actively avoid them. I just got other stuff on my priority list of media and entertainment.


because im the superior otaku i will judge your choices

Death Note was pretty cool, but Code Geass is just death note with mechs and a cooler story so code geass is cooler

Samurai Champloo is just awesome because of mugen, otehrwise f dat

Higurashi is boring

Hellsing OVA is better.

Cowboy bebop rocks i guess

FLCL is good the rest sucked you are bad at wathcing anime...
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on November 09, 2010, 10:24:22 pm
Someone rec me some goddang old aminé i don't want your k-on and excel saga and cowboy bebops...i want...classics
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: crone_lover720 on November 10, 2010, 03:27:42 am
because im the superior otaku i will judge your choices

Death Note was pretty cool, but Code Geass is just death note with mechs and a cooler story so code geass is cooler

Samurai Champloo is just awesome because of mugen, otehrwise f dat

Higurashi is boring

Hellsing OVA is better.

Cowboy bebop rocks i guess

FLCL is good the rest sucked you are bad at wathcing anime...
death note code geass samurai champloo hellsing are are awful if you are discerning at all so idk it's like starbucks? heh, no thanks pleb, I only drink seattle's best

not saying you have to be discerning or that the other ones are necessarily good I just dunno about them


vellfer just from one wikipedia screen this looks really good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Momotaro's_Divine_Sea_Warriors-screeny.JPG

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRt7Dtdsmg ok it's pretty good but honestly I dunno why you're bothering when old russian cartoons are so much better
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: dragonx on November 10, 2010, 05:41:38 am
death note code geass samurai champloo hellsing are are awful if you are discerning at all so idk it's like starbucks? heh, no thanks pleb, I only drink seattle's best

i guess i only listen to classic rock for a reason xD
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Biggles on November 10, 2010, 11:23:38 am
Someone rec me some goddang old aminé i don't want your k-on and excel saga and cowboy bebops...i want...classics
apparently Gundam Zeta is nonsensical and melodramatic to the point that it's kind of funny. also there is this movie called Black Jack which makes no sense and i remember being unintentionally hilarious in some parts. i think it's a Tezuka related thing but it's about super humans and their spirit burns our or something and the only cure is mystical desert nomads. i don't know what you're looking for though. metropolis was kind of good if you ignore a lot of the everything. really old tezuka shorts are completely awesome like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKQmCistpM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzluf6knHKU

summary: all biggles knows about is gundams and tezukas
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: Vellfire on December 02, 2010, 01:10:44 pm
I've been watching an anime about angels who strip to hunt ghosts. I'm not ashamed to admit that because it's the best thing ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNy6-n5td7M).

this reminds me that as a kiddo i watched those who hunt elves.  which is about a group of people who have been magically transported to a fantasy land and in order to get back to their world they have to find pieces of some magic spell that has tattooed itself onto various elves.  so they just go around ripping the clothes off of them.  i think one of the dvds was even called "ELF STRIPPING FOR FUN AND PROFIT".

this was such an awful show why did i watch this stuff

edit: ahahaha just watched the video, they actually STRIP as in poles and music this is fantastic.
Title: anime (dubbs)
Post by: DDay on January 11, 2011, 01:34:07 pm
Here is the list of shows that appeal to me this season
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Watching 

Kore wa Zombie desu ka- because It's funny as shit at least what I can tell form the first episode.

Dragon Crisis!-I liked what I seen so far.

Freezing- Because bloody shows seem to be my forte.

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On the fence

Yumekui Merry- I'm bit intrigued in the direction it's going but some of the name chooses Like John Doe Chaser or Merry Nightmare is kind of ridicules naming which puts me off.

Beelzebub- Baby Penis is real turn down on this show I might go a few more Episodes in and  if I can't find any charm I will drop it.

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Not Watching

Rio Rainbow Gate= Because it's boring and it's about poker if that doesn't make it interesting enough.... Because it's not.

Cardfight!! Vanguard - developer: I got a new card game let's make a anime about it. But sadly I might watch it on the down low. till I get board of it.

Level E: Not my cup tea by all means not a bad show but it not enough action to hold me there. But I will say this I hate the art style.