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Title: quick question
Post by: hero_bash on August 17, 2010, 11:45:04 am
What's the meaning of this quote:

"I would never join a club who would have me as a member"

I've been thinking about what the exact meaning is.
Title: quick question
Post by: Alec on August 17, 2010, 11:58:02 am
it's self-deprecation
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Post by: hero_bash on August 17, 2010, 12:17:56 pm
meaning?
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Post by: DS on August 17, 2010, 12:19:54 pm
meaning you resent yourself

do you hero bash
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Post by: Yeaster on August 17, 2010, 12:44:32 pm
Perhaps the individual doesn't feel worthy enough to be apart of a club.
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Post by: Vellfire on August 17, 2010, 12:51:04 pm
woody allen quoted this once, it's basically what guys like woody allen feel about themselves every agonizing minute of their disgusting days

edit: basically it means you can't stand yourself, so you wouldn't want to ever be part of a club that would include someone as shitty as yourself (because it means they must be a shitty club)
Title: quick question
Post by: hero_bash on August 17, 2010, 01:40:23 pm
oh i see. the first meaning that came to my mind was that the person doesn't want to join a club that just readily accepts anyone or wants anyone to join as he could be a useful asset. I thought he was wanting to join a club where he isn't wanted and where he would work hard to get into it.. hmm..
so it's just self-deprecation after all
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Post by: JORGE_LUIS_BORGES_A on August 17, 2010, 02:55:52 pm
it is a groucho marx quote actually
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Post by: Alec on August 17, 2010, 03:03:53 pm
yes nobody said otherwise.
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Post by: goldenratio on August 17, 2010, 05:04:40 pm
it's hard to get a table for 1 at chuck-e-cheese when you look like i do
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on August 17, 2010, 05:13:09 pm
Actually, I'm fairly sure it means that you are so full of yourself, that you'd refuse to join any club unless it was specifically too good for the likes of someone like yourself.

Although if you look at the man who said it, I'm pretty sure you can draw a correlation that distinctly distinguishes the act of hating oneself from the sensation of not ever wanting to be part of a group similar enough to yourself to want someone like you to actually join.

The former is too general and can be wrongly applied, anyone can feel that way at any time. It's the latter I can always relate to, regardless of how much I happen to like or hate myself at the moment.
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Post by: goldenratio on August 17, 2010, 05:55:24 pm
nope, doesn't mean that. it's definitely self-deprecating, every time i've heard that quote or similar quotes its in a deprecating manner.
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Post by: Master Tea on August 17, 2010, 07:02:21 pm
coincidentally i just finished reading his autobiography and the tale that birthed the quote; it's not a particularly interesting story
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Post by: Vellfire on August 17, 2010, 07:35:08 pm
yeah there is no doubt that it's self-deprecating, if you think otherwise you misunderstood it buster
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Post by: hero_bash on August 17, 2010, 07:36:23 pm
what happened?
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Post by: Master Tea on August 17, 2010, 08:15:47 pm
just gonna quote it:

"Some years ago, after considerable urging, I consented to join a prominent theatrical organization. By an odd coincidence, it was called the *Delaney Club. Here, I thought, within these hallowed walls of Thespis, we would sit of an evening with our Napoleon brandies and long-stemmed pipes and discuss Chaucer, Charles Lamb, Ruskin, Voltaire, Booth, the Barrymores, Duse, Shakespeare, Bernhardt and all the other legendary figures of the theatre and literature. The first night I went there, I found thirty-two fellows playing gin rummy with marked cards, five members shooting loaded dice on a suspiciously bumpy carpet and four members in separate phone booths calling women who were other members' wives.

A few nights later the club had a banquet. I don't clearly remember what the occasion was. I think it was to honor one of the members who had successfully managed to evade the police for over a year. The dining tables were long and narrow, and unless you arrived around three in the afternoon you had no control over who your dinner companion was going to be. That particular night I was sitting next to a barber who had cut me many times, both socially and with a razor. At one point he looked slowly around the room, then turned to me and said, 'Groucho, we're certainly getting a lousy batch of new members!'

I chose to ignore this remark and tried talking to him about Chaucer, Ruskin and Shakespeare, but he had switched to denouncing electric razors as a death blow to the tonsorial arts, so I dried up and resumed drinking. The following morning I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER."

*"Delaney," was an in-joke throughout the book, using it as a pseudonym for anything he didn't want/care to name

so you can see initially he just used it as an excuse, but otherwise it's self-deprecating
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Post by: datamanc3r on August 19, 2010, 02:11:11 am
Two words: Freudian lens.
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Post by: Frisky SKeleton on August 20, 2010, 03:44:53 am
Two words: Juris shit.
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Post by: Barack Obama on August 20, 2010, 11:18:29 am
it is a groucho marx quote actually
how have you been?
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Post by: Sludgelord on August 20, 2010, 11:40:05 am
woody allen quoted this once, it's basically what guys like woody allen feel about themselves every agonizing minute of their disgusting days

edit: basically it means you can't stand yourself, so you wouldn't want to ever be part of a club that would include someone as shitty as yourself (because it means they must be a shitty club)
it's groucho marx fucker man
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Post by: tuxedo marx on August 20, 2010, 11:41:10 am
woody allen quoted this once
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Post by: Sludgelord on August 20, 2010, 11:42:30 am
let's give the jews even more credit! let's give them all the credit in the world! let's give them the credit for everything except for the one thing they deserve credit for: 9/11.
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Post by: Sludgelord on August 20, 2010, 11:52:37 am
let's just collect all the credit in the world and put it in a big camp. and we'd put stickers on the credit to identify it - this credit belongs to the jews! don't touch! property of israel! and we'd round up all this credit, and maybe we could call it a credit pogrom, and give it to them on a cake with a candle for each piece of credit on it. and there'd be a lot of fire on that cake - maybe even a holocaust - so it might get out of hand. but they'd have their credit.
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Post by: Alec on August 20, 2010, 12:13:18 pm
So you just want to give credit where credit is jew?
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Post by: tuxedo marx on August 20, 2010, 12:33:34 pm
the jews have been handling credit for thousands of years
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Post by: Vellfire on August 20, 2010, 12:37:26 pm
yeah i know it's groucho marx (which is why i said QUOTED) but i used woody allen because if there was ever a person who took this quote to heart it's him (he's a miserable sack of sacks)
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Post by: hero_bash on August 20, 2010, 12:53:46 pm
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Post by: Sludgelord on August 20, 2010, 03:22:19 pm
turns out the marx brothers were jewish. and apparently groucho WASN'T his real name???
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Post by: Master Tea on August 20, 2010, 07:23:02 pm
wow his mustache wasnt real either!!! that' crosses the line. fug everyting........
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Post by: Terrorantula on August 20, 2010, 07:29:33 pm
*Glares at Sludgelord*  Putz. Something tells me you're over-billing us when it comes to credit.
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Post by: Parker on August 20, 2010, 07:29:43 pm
the jews have been handling credit for thousands of years
well played
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Post by: Terrorantula on August 20, 2010, 07:43:40 pm
the jews have been handling credit for thousands of years

True, but it took us a long time to get any change. . . 
And it seems new antisemitic thorns may  be sprouting. . .
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Post by: "James" The Gamer "GAmes" joystick Joyce on August 22, 2010, 10:16:58 am
are people in this topic taking the quote seriously when it's clearly just a throwaway groucho joke or is my own joke detector broken

halp.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on August 22, 2010, 12:05:03 pm
i think it's more to do with woody allen taking it seriously
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Post by: hero_bash on August 23, 2010, 05:53:30 pm
I think the people who claim the quote are basically groupless because they won't be able to join any group.
 
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Post by: "James" The Gamer "GAmes" joystick Joyce on August 25, 2010, 03:43:13 am
oh my god what are you people doing
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Post by: Hundley on August 26, 2010, 04:53:44 am
oh my god what are you people doing
there ain't no sanity clause