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Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on June 01, 2011, 12:14:30 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/Alex_Title.png)

Author: Vampirin Cara
Engine: RPG Maker 2003
Genre: Interactive Novel, Comedy
Running Time: at least 1 hour

Prelude:
No, this time I am not using a funny pseudonyme. This game was made by my half-sister Cara. The mapping sucked ass though and I fixed some parts. Also the English dialogues were quite crappy and I hopefully erased most of the mistakes. However the rest is made by herself.

Story:
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/01.png)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/16.png)

Deep, deep, deep in the forest there is a long road going straight through it to connect one end with the other. One day 2 cars collide and are no longer able to drive. The group of people being in these vehicles have no other choice than to go and search for something... help, an exit, whatever, because none of them has a mobile to get help.
Unfortunately the forest is habitated by some dark creatures who like to eat human flesh... But that's not all. Those beings have way bigger plans, and so Alex and his new friends who drove the other car are now in a situation that is even supposed to destroy the earth!

Features:
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/21.png)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/09.png)

- tons of blood and violence
- emotions, feelings, tears
- eppic story
- awesome graphics
- wonderful lighting effects
- optional dialogues with choices
- no annoying gameplay
- 1 different ending

Screenshots:
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/24.png)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/05.png)
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/19.png)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/18.png)
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/03.png)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/13.png)

Download:
6.7 MB (http://rpgmaker.net/users/Deacon%20Batista/locker/Alexander.zip)

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Post by: hero_bash on June 02, 2011, 06:49:34 am
cool. a game made by a girl. i'll try it
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 06:57:48 pm
Yeah, the first ever good game made by a girl.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 07:11:22 pm
Yeah, the first ever good game made by a girl.

ahahahaha
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 07:26:22 pm
Huh? What's so funny? Can't remember making a joke...
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 07:27:59 pm
i have no doubt that you honestly believe that to be true.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 07:32:40 pm
"believe"? You mean "know".
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 07:37:19 pm
exhibit a) roberta williams
exhibit b) dada's sister's rpgmaker game

i think that's really all the evidence you need
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 07:39:42 pm
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exhibit a) roberta williams
Don't know her.

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exhibit b) dada's sister's rpgmaker game
Wow, it must've been that awesome that it even has a name...
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 07:41:36 pm
roberta williams made a ton of games, notably king's quest, phantasmagoria, and mystery house.  she's the founder of sierra.


dada do you have a download of your sister's game somewhere because i just remember the screenshots being amazing
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 07:47:19 pm
After checking wikipedia I out I found out that Roberta Williams made the games along with her husband. I can guaran damn tee you, that all the good stuff came from her husband and he was just that nice to put his wife's name onto the cover, too, so that he still gets sex. ^_^

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dada do you have a download of your sister's game somewhere because i just remember the screenshots being amazing
There are tons of eppic screenshots out there which will never be followed by something playable.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 07:51:47 pm
After checking wikipedia I out I found out that Roberta Williams made the games along with her husband. I can guaran damn tee you, that all the good stuff came from her husband and he was just that nice to put his wife's name onto the cover, too, so that he still gets sex. ^_^

ahahahahaha holy shit
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Post by: big ass skelly on June 02, 2011, 07:55:55 pm
So mr williams fixed up roberta williams' crummy games but credited her so he could have sex

You fixed up your sister's crummy game but credited her so you could... :peopleseyebrow:
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Post by: dicko on June 02, 2011, 08:07:05 pm
After checking wikipedia I out I found out that Roberta Williams made the games along with her husband. I can guaran damn tee you, that all the good stuff came from her husband and he was just that nice to put his wife's name onto the cover, too, so that he still gets sex. ^_^
There are tons of eppic screenshots out there which will never be followed by something playable.

no she co-founded sierra with her husband she designed all the games herself

oh right i get it sorry yeah good show
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Post by: Eltee on June 02, 2011, 08:12:16 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/rpgmaker.net/media/content/games/2292/screenshots/03.png)




prime comedy right here, proof that rpgmaker is still useful and in its prime




ps:


you're a giant jerk if you think "wow a girl made something whoa" is a selling point"
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Post by: Vellfire on June 02, 2011, 08:13:51 pm
batistaberg get your half-sister on this forum then disappear again, she seems pretty great
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 08:15:32 pm
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no she co-founded sierra with her husband she designed all the games herself
Even if she did, I saw her games and they are quite crappy.

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So mr williams fixed up roberta williams' crummy games but credited her so he could have sex

You fixed up your sister's crummy game but credited her so you could... :peopleseyebrow:​
Thats far away from being funny. >:-|

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batistaberg get your half-sister on this forum then disappear again, she seems pretty great
I haven't talked/chatted to her in a while. I may ask her the next time we have contact. But as far as I know she is no fan of those internet communities because of all the drama everywhere.
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Post by: Eltee on June 02, 2011, 08:17:31 pm


Thats far away from being funny. >:-|

idk really it is in line with the humor of this game and pretty much anything you say


it may not be too far off to say this idea was once your parents', and thus we see the results
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 02, 2011, 08:20:18 pm
Stop the insults, man. -,- You are going too far with that incest shit, really.
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Post by: Carrion Crow on June 02, 2011, 11:11:36 pm
I have no idea what is going on!!!
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Post by: Biggles on June 02, 2011, 11:40:04 pm
guys i think this might be a "jerk account"

p.s. roberta williams legend forever.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 03, 2011, 12:50:00 am
guys i think this might be a "jerk account"

p.s. roberta williams legend forever.

it's not, batistaberg has been around for a long time (tho he went missing for quite a while) and he really is just this dumb (just look at the topic he put in his sig as if he's proud of it)

i have a platonic gamemaking crush on roberta williams she is my favorite person in the game industry

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Post by: Biggles on June 03, 2011, 03:24:43 am
how can someone have views like that though. i mean there's lots of people with misogynistic beliefs but I didn't think that there was anyone who would just be like Well It's A Fact! surely the proportion of people that are actually like that is lower than the number of trolly troll trolls who would do it for a laugh. nope. i won't accept that batistaberg exists. like all other internet phenomena i can't understand, i will resign it to the category "chef did it" and then forget about it.
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Post by: DoctorEars on June 03, 2011, 06:03:52 am
Pretty sure that Batistaberg is just a troll.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 03, 2011, 12:36:30 pm
Please stop the trolling and return to the game now.
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Post by: DoctorEars on June 03, 2011, 12:40:00 pm
Can't really be assed returning to the game. Not that I ever downloaded it though.

It looks like crap, honestly.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 03, 2011, 01:21:05 pm
"The only way a woman can make a game is if a man fixes it up for her."  ~ Batistaberg

how can someone have views like that though. i mean there's lots of people with misogynistic beliefs but I didn't think that there was anyone who would just be like Well It's A Fact! surely the proportion of people that are actually like that is lower than the number of trolly troll trolls who would do it for a laugh. nope. i won't accept that batistaberg exists. like all other internet phenomena i can't understand, i will resign it to the category "chef did it" and then forget about it.

He's too consistently dumb to fake it.  I've read enough shit on the internet to know that a lot of people really aren't trolling.  A lot of them WILL claim they were though when they get called out on their bullshit.  There was a guy on SA recently that posted this long thing about him having a panty fetish and intentionally targeting women who would be too afraid of him to say no to ask for their panties.  His wife found his stash of panties.  He was asking for advice, and everyone told him how fucking disgusting he was.  He tried to say it was a troll, but at that point everyone not only knew about this, but also at least one person who knew him personally confirmed that he had asked her for panties in the past AND they had already found posts he made on bestiality forums.  So, Biggles, I don't find it too hard to believe that a dude can be just plain old misogynist.  I think it's just that outside the internet, people know to hide these kinds of thoughts.  People are this dumb.
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Post by: Biggles on June 03, 2011, 01:52:25 pm
I realise that it's possible, but that doesn't make it probable. Either way, I stand to preserve a good bit of sanity by rationalising this into a mystery event.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 03, 2011, 02:01:21 pm
I realise that it's possible, but that doesn't make it probable. Either way, I stand to preserve a good bit of sanity by rationalising this into a mystery event.

OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH BIGGLES.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 03, 2011, 02:19:10 pm
Peggy, nobody wants your panties... and nobody ever will. -,-

Quote from: Dr. Ear
It looks like crap, honestly.
You are making a little girl very sad now...
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Post by: bonzi_buddy on June 03, 2011, 05:37:55 pm
what about jane jensen? she even released a pretty good game recently. i think you should check it out. she did gabriel knights.
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 03, 2011, 08:25:59 pm
*Squeakyhammers people* I think I'll just enjoy the game.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 03, 2011, 09:12:50 pm
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what about jane jensen? she even released a pretty good game recently. i think you should check it out. she did gabriel knights.
How many males helped her?
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Post by: DoctorEars on June 03, 2011, 11:43:38 pm
Don't you mean that I'm making *you* sad right now? You're the one who "fixed" it up.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 04, 2011, 12:08:05 am
*Squeakyhammers people* I think I'll just enjoy the game.

I think watching Batistaberg be intolerably misogynistic is a lot more interesting than playing a RPGMaker game.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 04, 2011, 08:25:45 am
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Don't you mean that I'm making *you* sad right now? You're the one who "fixed" it up.
I didn't even want to release it. I was forced to do so.
So to answer your question: no.
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Post by: DoctorEars on June 04, 2011, 08:27:33 am
How on earth did someone you don't see often force you to go on the internet, upload and file AND make a topic about it?
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 04, 2011, 08:52:52 am
with whining ;-)
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Post by: DoctorEars on June 04, 2011, 08:54:47 am
Yeah, sure.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 04, 2011, 11:08:34 am
with whining ;-)

that's all women can do ;-)
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Post by: hero_bash on June 04, 2011, 12:09:57 pm
anyone actually played the game? midi is screwed on linux wine so i quit early in the game
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 04, 2011, 01:37:12 pm
Use windows! Or turn off the music.

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that's all women can do ;-)
At least one thing, yeah... and definitely better than mak gam. ;-)
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Post by: SegNin on June 09, 2011, 09:31:08 am
“A woman's place is in the kitchen and the bedroom, Florida, the kitchen and the bedroom!”

Good Times!!
Any time you meet a payment.
Good Times!!
Any time you need a friend.
Good Times!!
Any time you're out from under.
Not getting hassled, not getting hustled.
Keepin' your head above water,
Making a wave when you can.
Temporary lay offs.
Good Times!!
Easy credit rip offs
Good Times!!
Scratchin' and surviving.
Good Times!!
Hangin' in and jiving
Good Times!!
Ain't we lucky we got 'em...

GOOD TIMES!!!
Yeaahh...

...Oh, and the game looks OK.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 09, 2011, 03:03:51 pm
I agree with you on that, but whatever you do: Keep women away from the computer!
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Post by: Biggles on June 10, 2011, 12:04:36 am
Frances E. Allen concludes that you can be safely optimised out without incurring loss.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 10, 2011, 12:10:04 am
Zombie Ada Lovelace rises from her grave, completely mutilates Batistaberg before settling back into the ground.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 10, 2011, 09:36:26 pm
Who?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 10, 2011, 09:48:11 pm
some woman, don't worry about it
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Post by: The Monster King on June 10, 2011, 10:06:15 pm
good thing you made an amazing RPG Maker anime game with top class graphics to show all the women how its done. here is an upskirt in my signature so people are sure i am not objectifying women. also my picture of an artery looks like a dick
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 11, 2011, 09:54:48 am
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good thing you made an amazing RPG Maker anime game with top class graphics to show all the women how its done.
Read who the author of this game is: my sister. Not me. She is a gurl.

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here is an upskirt in my signature so people are sure i am not objectifying women. also my picture of an artery looks like a dick
Where is an "artery"?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 11, 2011, 11:29:05 am
Read who the author of this game is: my sister. Not me. She is a gurl.

He was talking about the one in your sig, and the artery picture is in the link in your sig (and it looks like a dick)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 11, 2011, 01:27:57 pm
He said "good thing you made an amazing RPG Maker anime game with top class graphics to show all the women how its done."
"Made" (past tense!) is not correct because I haven't released that game yet. Also it is not anime. It is a Refmap classic comedy RPG. Just the rest of his sentence is correct.

Quote from: Peggy
and the artery picture is in the link in your sig (and it looks like a dick)
It's no artery, it's an aorta. ;-) And you all have that "dick" inside your body...
Just fixed my signature so that you don't have to click that link anymore to reach the dick. ^_^
Looks like you never reached a real dick if you really thought it was a dick.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 11, 2011, 01:46:51 pm
It's no artery, it's an aorta. ;-)

The aorta is an artery how dumb are you???
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 11, 2011, 02:12:56 pm
Maybe he thought you meant artillery instead of artery.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 11, 2011, 03:16:36 pm
Have a look at my ";-)" smiley I had posted at the end of that line. B-)
So, sorry, but I have to give the question with that "dumb" right back to you.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 11, 2011, 03:40:40 pm
Have a look at my ";-)" smiley I had posted at the end of that line. B-)
So, sorry, but I have to give the question with that "dumb" right back to you.

This doesn't even make sense as a joke and it's kind of funny that you think you've got something over anyone.  w/e I'm just a woman what do I know
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 11, 2011, 04:56:15 pm
once again: learn smileys!
(it does make sense as a joke)
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Post by: The Monster King on June 11, 2011, 08:47:35 pm
wow you didnt even finish it great job the women will understand their place
i hope theyll see how a REAL MAN rips sprites from chrono trigger
they will always need a stud like you to rip the sprites...

i dont know how many japanese cartoons it references but those are definitely japanese style characters and upskirts draw by someone of talent that would shut all women up. i hope a womans never upstages me it would make my shrivelled balls feel even more inadequate
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 11, 2011, 08:57:42 pm
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wow you didnt even finish it great job the women will understand their place
I'm still working on it, kid, and it's nearly done.

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i hope theyll see how a REAL MAN rips sprites from chrono trigger
they will always need a stud like you to rip the sprites...
I also edited them! No woman on this planet would be able to do so!
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Post by: Vellfire on June 11, 2011, 11:39:21 pm
batistaberg please write us a post, just a few (full) paragraphs explaining why women can't make games.  enlighten us.
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Post by: Biggles on June 12, 2011, 12:16:55 am
googled "why women can't make games", found this: http://gamersareembarrassing.wordpress.com/

HMMMMMMMM
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Post by: Vellfire on June 12, 2011, 12:24:30 am
googled "why women can't make games", found this: http://gamersareembarrassing.wordpress.com/

HMMMMMMMM

And who's right there in the image??? WHY IT'S ROBERTA FUCKING WILLIAMS!!!
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 12, 2011, 04:28:30 pm
I knew it the whole time ^_^
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 13, 2011, 02:57:37 am
Batistaberg, you fucking idiot! Lady Ada Lovelace  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace)wrote what many consider to be the first computer program, back in the late 1800s. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 13, 2011, 10:50:56 am
That means absolutely nothing.

And stop the insults, kid. -,-
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Post by: Vellfire on June 13, 2011, 11:17:07 am
computers, like women, are meaningless. but please stop calling me out on my terrible worldviews.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 13, 2011, 11:18:35 am
i've got a crush on ada lovelace
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Post by: Vellfire on June 13, 2011, 01:24:57 pm
i've got a crush on ada lovelace

she's p. hot, like marie antoinette without that hapsburg jaw
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 13, 2011, 06:40:30 pm
That means absolutely nothing.

And stop the insults, kid. -,-
I'll admit I got a bit carried away there- but I felt insulted on behalf of said women.  Just remember that a woman is at least partly responsible for the existence of the computer you're making the games on (http://pbskids.org/cyberchase/specials/201today_ada2.html).

computers, like women, are meaningless. but please stop calling me out on my terrible worldviews.
No, Vell, sex/gender roles are meaningless.  :P
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Post by: Vellfire on June 13, 2011, 07:33:40 pm
women are a waste
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 13, 2011, 07:56:16 pm
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I'll admit I got a bit carried away there- but I felt insulted on behalf of said women.  Just remember that a woman is at least partly responsible for the existence of the computer you're making the games on.
Has nothing to do with their skills in mak gam.
Also the inventor of automobile does not have to be a good driver.
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 13, 2011, 08:23:01 pm
True- but good drivers can be of either sex- why not good game makers? Vell, you consider yourself a waste?

*Sigh* W/e. Anyway I'll see how the game is.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 13, 2011, 08:33:38 pm
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good drivers can be of either sex
What the hell... ?
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 13, 2011, 08:48:12 pm
I was just extending your auto analogy. Your'e right, who invented computers doesn't matter. I just think there are some women out there who can "Drive" making a game quite well.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 13, 2011, 09:14:59 pm
True- but good drivers can be of either sex- why not good game makers? Vell, you consider yourself a waste?

i'm making fun of batistaberg shhhhhh

By the way Batistaberg you haven't made a game better than King's Quest so you'd better work hard to outdo that woman.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 14, 2011, 03:23:52 am
Just so you know, it was in fact a woman who made this game (http://games.adultswim.com/lesbian-spider-queens-of-mars-twitchy-online-game.html).

That lone example is all the "proof" I'll ever need. Undeniable proof that not only women can make games, but that games made by women are an absolute necessity.
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Post by: Gulp on June 14, 2011, 08:46:26 am
women should just grow dicks and be like everyone else.
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Post by: SegNin on June 14, 2011, 11:23:58 am
women should just grow dicks and be like everyone else.

This may very well be the indubitably and unquestioningly absolute worstest idea in the entire history of everything.

Before you say 'worstest' isn't a real word, thanks to your idea, it just became one.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 14, 2011, 02:41:25 pm
Quote from: Peggy
By the way Batistaberg you haven't made a game better than King's Quest so you'd better work hard to outdo that woman.
I don't know King's Quest and you don't know/didn't play all my gams. ^_^

Quote from: EvilDemon
Just so you know, it was in fact a woman who made this game.
She had males working for her.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 14, 2011, 03:47:30 pm
One of the Chrono Trigger character designers was a woman btw.  I think there were more women in the art in that game too.  You're playin Russian roulette using Chrono Trigger rips, you might accidentally be relying on a woman.

Seriously I'd be so embarrassed if you were my brother.  You don't know me, but the people here who do will know why that's the worst possible thing I could say about anyone.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 14, 2011, 03:53:59 pm
tell me batista are you into bitcoins
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Post by: Vellfire on June 14, 2011, 03:56:26 pm
he was until he spent them all on 16 year old russian webcam girls and got ripped off
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 14, 2011, 04:04:08 pm
well you know what they say: the mistrust respecting customers, notwithstanding that, may be the cost..
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 14, 2011, 04:38:03 pm
She had males working for her.

I can only see that fact you pointed out furthering my initial point. (I mean sure, it would have been hotter if it were other females working for her on that game, but the fact remains that the game itself is only made the way it was because there was a woman in charge of it being made. Also, it's completely apparent that women always know how to use other men much more effectively than men are at using other men.)

The point being, there is a clear distinction with misogynist games designed by women, as opposed to misogynistic games designed entirely by men. I find the former to be much more pure and wholesome, with a true depth of purpose to their portrayal of hot lesbian bondage related action. (Even when men make games that are obviously misogynistic, they are almost always too homophobic to go the full girl-on-girl route, even though they usually voice full support when it comes to the concept itself irl.)
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Post by: Vellfire on June 14, 2011, 04:43:41 pm
(Even when men make games that are obviously misogynistic, they are almost always too homophobic to go the full girl-on-girl route, even though they usually voice full support when it comes to the concept itself irl.)

I've never played it but I read the wikipedia page for Fear Effect 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_Effect_2:_Retro_Helix) recently and I love how the creator goes way out of his way to insist that the lesbian characters aren't lesbians, they just happen to be in a lesbian relationship.  Dude can't commit to his own fuckin controversy.

I would talk about how awful women characters in video games are because they're intended to appeal to 13 year old boys (and Batistaberg who is a grown-ass dude) but women as game characters is a whole other road to go down, which strays away from the original point, which is that Batistaberg is a huge idiot.  Don't wanna derail from that.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 14, 2011, 04:45:34 pm
this is batistaberg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7BP2Gclzj0
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Post by: Terrorantula on June 14, 2011, 06:28:21 pm
Ah.

*Is no longer feeling argumentative anyway*
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Post by: Vellfire on June 15, 2011, 01:24:04 am
Just for future reference:  anyone in this topic besides batistaberg is joking about hating women.
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Post by: Gulp on June 15, 2011, 04:31:28 am
i think batistaberg is right. i mean, girls are just so weird. they belong in the kitchen making me a sandwich.
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Post by: Carrion Crow on June 15, 2011, 04:36:44 am
Whenever I read this topic I get cravings for battenberg cake.
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Post by: hero_bash on June 15, 2011, 01:10:58 pm
anyone actualy finished the game?
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 15, 2011, 02:26:09 pm
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Seriously I'd be so embarrassed if you were my brother.
And I'd be embarrassed if my sister had trolled game presentation topics and insult gam makers at Saltworld in over 13 000 posts. ^.^
Also over 90 % of the people in the RM scene are one whole embarassment anyway... hating against each others' gams, whining about which enigne is the best etc. ... tons of retarded and pointless drama when it's about selfmade games... unfortunately. So it makes no difference, if my sister would see one more embarassing person in the scene or not.

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You're playin Russian roulette using Chrono Trigger rips, you might accidentally be relying on a woman.
Creating graphics doesn't equal mak gam. Women are good enough to make graphics. I even admit they are the better artist, but we are the better gam makers. Good graphics alone don't mak a good gam.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 15, 2011, 03:56:24 pm
I would talk about how awful women characters in video games are because they're intended to appeal to 13 year old boys (and Batistaberg who is a grown-ass dude) but women as game characters is a whole other road to go down, which strays away from the original point, which is that Batistaberg is a huge idiot.  Don't wanna derail from that.

Yeah, I'm sorry about trying to derail the topic at hand. This whole "bastiaberg is a huge idiot" issue is more pressing than I could have ever imagined.

I mean if you can still hold your personal stance after being introduced to a game designed by not just any woman, but a woman with a well known resume of games (the vast majority which she developed entirely by herself), that is about nothing more than setting twitchy arcade action akin to well known classics such as pac-man/bubble-bobble to the theme of SPACE-LESBIAN BONDAGE FANTASY. Then it can only mean that he has some serious issues with how dumb he really is. It's entirely evident to me that you just can't argue with logic to a guy like that.

The only problem is that I doubt that these kinds of issues can be completely addressed within a single lifetime, much less a single forum topic.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 15, 2011, 07:38:10 pm
Return to topic please which is the here shown gam.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 15, 2011, 09:32:23 pm
I mean if you can still hold your personal stance after being introduced to a game designed by not just any woman, but a woman with a well known resume of games (the vast majority which she developed entirely by herself), that is about nothing more than setting twitchy arcade action akin to well known classics such as pac-man/bubble-bobble to the theme of SPACE-LESBIAN BONDAGE FANTASY. Then it can only mean that he has some serious issues with how dumb he really is. It's entirely evident to me that you just can't argue with logic to a guy like that.

The only problem is that I doubt that these kinds of issues can be completely addressed within a single lifetime, much less a single forum topic.

Even worse, he assumes that Roberta Williams, creator of a) the first graphical adventure game EVER and b) Sierra which was a HUGE company in its day just had her husband do everything for her.  His thinking is beyond repair, he is broken from the very core of his brain.

So anyway Batistaberg why should we give a shit about your sister's game if women can't make games?
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Post by: Biggles on June 16, 2011, 09:32:16 am
I realised yesterday that in every description of ken williams I have ever read (particularly in steven levy's book 'hackers') I have pictured him as ken from street fighter. I was genuinely shocked when I saw a picture of him after first posting in this topic and it took me until then to figure out why. Ken from street fighter sitting at a computer, making his wife's games.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 16, 2011, 02:13:29 pm
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So anyway Batistaberg why should we give a shit about your sister's game if women can't make games?
Because you love women's games so much and you give a shit about my opinion.
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Post by: Biggles on June 16, 2011, 11:54:42 pm
how does loving "women's games" have anything to do with it. anyone who even likes games at all practically has the imperative to disagree with you. anyone who didn't learn their views on other humans from schopenhauer's cryptic temple of misogyny (http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/onwomen.html) would also be compelled to disagree.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 17, 2011, 12:29:05 am
If you love adventure games at all you owe at least a little something to Roberta Williams.  Sierra and Lucasarts more or less shaped that entire genre, and Roberta Williams herself is the one who got the ball rolling.  This has nothing to do with LOVING WOMEN'S GAMES, it's about not genuinely hating women as people.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 17, 2011, 10:41:16 pm
We all owe Roberta Williams. I got it now. Still doesn't make her a good gam maker.
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Post by: Ultimaweapon9 on June 18, 2011, 02:30:27 am
Game Without the 'E'
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 18, 2011, 04:40:01 am
cut from the devteam
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 11:26:48 am
"gam" is a classic
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Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2011, 12:29:12 pm
We all owe Roberta Williams. I got it now. Still doesn't make her a good gam maker.

Try reading anything at all about her games for two seconds.  You apparently don't know much about classic PC games.

Here, let me start you off:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6144989/index.html (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6144989/index.html) (by the way, Roberta Williams DID collaborate some with King's Quest VI...with another woman.)
http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/110028/the-52-most-important-video-games-of-all-time/ (http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/110028/the-52-most-important-video-games-of-all-time/)

Reviews:
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/kings_quest_1_2_3 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/kings_quest_1_2_3)
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/king%E2%80%99s_quest_4_5_6 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/king%E2%80%99s_quest_4_5_6)
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/king%E2%80%99s_quest_7_8 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/king%E2%80%99s_quest_7_8)

Might as well throw in a bit of awards for Gabriel Knight, since Jane Jensen is also a woman:
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1994 Adventure Game of the Year - Computer Game Review
1994 Adventure Game of the Year - Computer Gaming World
1993 Best of Show - Consumer Electronics Show

By the way, why am I taking the time to bother with you?  I just want to know how far you're going to go to try to justify yourself.  Please, go on.  If women can't make games then how come all of these games are better than anything you're making?  Surely you can do better than a woman.


SPECIAL BONUS:  Roberta Williams also made an absurdly gory game.  Women can do that too, you know?  http://games.ign.com/articles/829/829486p2.html
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 12:54:18 pm
And you wanna say she made those ALONE means without males helping her?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2011, 12:57:55 pm
Her husband did programming but not design.  So please tell me about how programming is equal to game making.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 01:12:28 pm
Mak gam is a combination of all necessary components like graphics, programming, etc.

She couldn't manage to do all of those on her own. She had to beg her man to help her.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2011, 01:38:45 pm
Mak gam is a combination of all necessary components like graphics, programming, etc.

She couldn't manage to do all of those on her own. She had to beg her man to help her.

Ahaha games are very rarely made by one person.  Sorry, champ.


By your logic Kojima can't make games either.  Neither can almost anyone.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 01:56:15 pm
There are some people in the indie scene that can.

Also don't forget companies have time pressure.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2011, 02:08:28 pm
There are some people in the indie scene that can.

Yes, but this isn't the indie scene Roberta Williams was in.  The indie scene as we know it didn't exist.  If it was now, Roberta Williams probably COULD have made her early games by herself.  Guess what?  She didn't get to lean on RPGMaker like you do.  Programming wasn't so simple at the time (if you even consider RPGMaker programming).

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Also don't forget companies have time pressure.

Yes they do.  Sierra On-Line was a company.  A company founded by Roberta Williams, which became one of the biggest game companies at the time.  Again, how does this mean women can't make games?
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 02:20:17 pm
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If it was now, Roberta Williams probably COULD have made her early games by herself.  Guess what?  She didn't get to lean on RPGMaker like you do.  Programming wasn't so simple at the time (if you even consider RPGMaker programming).
Not "she"! Her man!!!

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Again, how does this mean women can't make games?
Reread my posts.
If we just talk about the indie scene (because there are no single people in the real game making industry that work alone) none of those developers I referred to in my last post are female. =-)
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Post by: Vellfire on June 18, 2011, 02:23:04 pm
If we just talk about the indie scene (because there are no single people in the real game making industry that work alone) none of those developers I referred to in my last post are female. =-)

We aren't talking about the indie scene.  We're talking about games.  I like how you just suddenly change over to the indie scene when your arguments fall apart though.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 18, 2011, 02:43:45 pm
I like how you start insults when you don't agree with other people's arguments. Don't make me count them in this thread...

Well we needed to find games that are made by women without male's help. And if we can't find any game in the professional scene that is made by a single person, we have no other choice than to switch to the indie scene. Otherwise we can't even argument.
Or show me a game that is completely made by a female group.
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Post by: dicko on June 18, 2011, 07:50:25 pm
you're a pretty fucking disgusting human being, huh
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Post by: Faust on June 18, 2011, 07:54:00 pm
Dude, what is your problem with women? Like in all honesty, do you have problems getting them to like you?

This is not the way! I know primal male aggression gives us the need to show that we're better than women in some aspects, to show ourselves as PROVIDERS and shit and therefore VALUABLE to mate with, but this is the 21st Century. Women got the equal rights now!!

No one is going to suck you off because you say you're better at making games than them. Especially when you seethe with hatred towards their gender.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 19, 2011, 08:23:39 am
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you're a pretty fucking disgusting human being, huh
Don't call me human being!!!

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Like in all honesty, do you have problems getting them to like you?
Who hasn't?

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but this is the 21st Century. Women got the equal rights now!!
Nope, they have more rights, because we gave them. We have to get back what's ours!
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Post by: hero_bash on June 19, 2011, 09:16:38 am
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Who hasn't?

me
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 19, 2011, 04:23:39 pm
Virgin?
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Post by: hero_bash on June 20, 2011, 12:23:27 pm
nope. unlike you
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 20, 2011, 02:36:22 pm
I'm no virgin.
I started late, but I started.
Though I am a butt sex virgin. I never really needed to try it out, also women don't seem to enjoy it. Some may tolerate it, but instead you can better have vagina sex.
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Post by: hero_bash on June 20, 2011, 03:10:00 pm
don't lie. you're obviously a sad virgin
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 20, 2011, 03:27:13 pm
Sad yes. Virgin no.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 20, 2011, 04:16:22 pm
tell us how you please a woman in bed
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 20, 2011, 04:39:32 pm
Everyone knows that all virgins are liars. (They are just like women that way.)

Also, why are you so damned insistent on posing this biased qualifier on women needing to do it 'all by themselves' in order to even 'qualify' as a part of the "game development" industry? If it was a man making a game, then you wouldn't give two shits about that man getting another man's help in order to do it. Why do women always have to work twice as hard at the exact same thing in order to get an equal amount of recognition as any man would? There are probably hundreds of examples of men only being able to make their games by getting help from one or more women, but because your criteria is so oddly specific, those women won't matter to you at all! (Double-standards never make much sense, but despite that they are essential to any kind of narrow-minded argument.)

I know for sure you are indeed nothing more than a lieing virgin, but I can't be 100% sure, so just in case (<1% for sure) I happen to be wrong, I want you to know that I have an infinite amount of pity for that poor hypothetical woman you got into the sack. I'm sure her opinion of the sex she hypothetically experienced was the only thing in the world actually lower than your own opinion of her.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 20, 2011, 05:13:25 pm
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tell us how you please a woman in bed
Hmmm... you don't wanna hear it. You would come when reading.

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If it was a man making a game, then you wouldn't give two shits about that man getting another man's help in order to do it.
I do. We had that topic above.

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I know for sure you are indeed nothing more than a lieing virgin, but I can't be 100% sure, so just in case (<1% for sure) I happen to be wrong
You are wrong.

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I'm sure her opinion of the sex she hypothetically experienced was the only thing in the world actually lower than your own opinion of her.
I had a high opinion. She had a high opinion. End of the story.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 20, 2011, 07:50:25 pm
I like how you quote only the most insignificant part of my argument to address, along with anything I said questioning your relative competence in bed.

Even though it's not even a question. The fact that you are arguing so hard to convince a person anonymously on a message board that you are not a virgin is a sure-fire sign that you are in fact a very sad virgin. (The whole thing started by you asking a virgin if he was a virgin, him responding "no, unlike you" and then you spent every post you made afterwards making sure people acknowledged that you were not a virgin even though it's the last thing anybody could ever possibly care about. I thought this topic was originally supposed to be discussing some RPGMaker game or something?)

Here's a news flash: Virgins are the only people that even care about this stuff. The fact that you aren't even aware of this fact is all the evidence I need to know with 100% certainty you are not only a virgin, but a sad, desperate one at that. You don't even have to admit it, you have no reason to, and the truth really is that it is metaphysically impossible for anyone else to care even less about it than they already do now. You just have to accept right now that there is absolutely nothing you could ever type in your keyboard and post online that could possibly convince me otherwise.

Also I don't believe you when you said she had a high opinion. Even if you were very very good at sex, saying she herself had a high opinion of it implies that you care enough about what a woman thinks to even be aware of her opinion in the first place. The way this topic has gone makes it all to apparent of how impossible that really is. (Of course you had a high opinion of it, and to you, your opinion might as well be her opinion also. Women don't deserve opinions, especially ones that aren't yours, so I completely understand why you chose to phrase it that way.)
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Post by: Biggles on June 21, 2011, 12:58:32 am
ve..vegeta! what does the scrouter say about her pleasure level???

she is a woman. her experience's are GODEL SENTENCE. safely assume any truth value and then derive all theorems at maximum!

(http://sadpanda.us/images/445929-5U5B4V3.gif)

lead the IMF to victory. use your RPG maker skills to construct a tower to heaven and unity with schopenhauer. th th ewomen are in their place by metaphysics. just stand up to the fridge for another Cold One. the Ice Of One Thousand Beers will deliver truth to all bitches.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 04:02:17 am
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I like how you quote only the most insignificant part of my argument to address, along with anything I said questioning your relative competence in bed.
We... ever had sex? I can't remember...

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Even though it's not even a question. The fact that you are arguing so hard to convince a person anonymously on a message board that you are not a virgin is a sure-fire sign that you are in fact a very sad virgin.
"Arguing hard to convince" by "adresseing only the most insignificant parts of your argument"? Weird tactic...

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Here's a news flash: Virgins are the only people that even care about this stuff.
Link me to that news flash please.

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with 100% certainty you are not only a virgin, but a sad, desperate one at that.
You are a little bit too late... although I wasn't sad when I was a virgin.

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You just have to accept right now that there is absolutely nothing you could ever type in your keyboard and post online that could possibly convince me otherwise.
I could set you on ignore instead.

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The way this topic has gone makes it all to apparent of how impossible that really is.
Then you are a retard.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 12:34:40 pm
I'm still waiting for your actual reasons for why women are incapable of making games.  What causes this phenomenon, sir?
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Post by: hero_bash on June 21, 2011, 02:04:06 pm
but i was devirginized young :(
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 02:37:18 pm
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I'm still waiting for your actual reasons for why women are incapable of making games.  What causes this phenomenon, sir?
For similar reasons why they are better in sports I guess. Or why there hasn't been a woman as U.S. president.

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but i was devirginized young :(
Interesting... -_-
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 03:44:54 pm
For similar reasons why they are better in sports I guess. Or why there hasn't been a woman as U.S. president.

Which are?  Please, enlighten us!

Also I like how you went out of your way to say U.S. president considering there have been women presidents in Europe since the 80s.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 04:05:02 pm
Batistaberg aren't you from Germany???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel
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Post by: dada on June 21, 2011, 04:07:06 pm
thanks for ruining the topic Batistaberg
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 04:07:51 pm
thanks for ruining the topic Batistaberg
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 21, 2011, 04:15:19 pm
thanks for ruining the topic Batistaberg (it couldn't have been done without you)

I could set you on ignore instead.

You do that by quoting every line of my post separately and responding to each one? Weird tactic.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 07:48:00 pm
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Which are?  Please, enlighten us!
Check the list of world records.

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there have been women presidents in Europe since the 80s.
But still way more males. And I even didn't count the times when women were supressed.

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Batistaberg aren't you from Germany???
Does not mean I agree with our politics. Also Angela Merkel will be taken to the trash (where she belongs) in 2013.

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You do that by quoting every line of my post separately and responding to each one? Weird tactic.
Learn the difference between "could" and "will".
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 08:04:07 pm
None of those are actually REASONS for why things are like they are.  Do you know what supporting an argument is?  WHY are men more suited to be president, WHY are men better at sports, WHY are men more likely to have world records, WHY can't women make games?  You haven't explained any of this, you have just given yourself more to explain.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 21, 2011, 08:06:30 pm
one day he is going to make a post where he explains all of this brilliantly and blows your mind
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 08:08:08 pm
one day he is going to make a post where he explains all of this brilliantly and blows your mind

i can't wait!!!
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Post by: Eltee on June 21, 2011, 08:10:55 pm
I wonder what you get out of life except stupid rpgmaker games. I don't see how anyone except people who are exactly like you could find you lovable in any way.

I suggest you change your title to Chauvinist Philistine instead of RM God, it's a tad more fitting.






(also no the post where we will be blown away will be the obvious revelation he was like Kezay and trolling us all along from prison)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 08:22:50 pm
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WHY are men more suited to be president, WHY are men better at sports, WHY are men more likely to have world records, WHY can't women make games?
Some things are just like they are. We don't have explanations for everything although we know stuff like you mentioned here are simply facts. Just like nobody knows why beings yawn and start yawning when seeing others yawn... we simply know it's the way it is.

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I don't see how anyone except people who are exactly like you could find you lovable in any way.
Did I say anybody loves me?

And no, I'm not online from prison. Didn't even know they have internet in prison.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 08:29:05 pm
Some things are just like they are. We don't have explanations for everything although we know stuff like you mentioned here are simply facts. Just like nobody knows why beings yawn and start yawning when seeing others yawn... we simply know it's the way it is.

Hi this isn't one of those things.  Everyone agrees that sometimes seeing someone yawn makes you yawn (by the way, we do have a very good idea of why this is (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yawn#Contagiousness)).  You're the only one who is saying that women can't make games or do any of these other things.  That means you have to actually give reasons, or admit that you have no reasons which probably means that it's just coming out of your own contempt towards women.

So try again, bub!
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Post by: dada on June 21, 2011, 08:34:57 pm
one day he is going to make a post where he explains all of this brilliantly and blows your mind
One day the sun will rise in the west instead of the east
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 08:36:54 pm
Wait, I didn't say women can't be president. Some did. But more males did so far.
And so it's with the games: women can make them, males just can do way better.

And about the yawn: nothing about it is proved. "very good ideas", okay, but ideas are just ideas after all.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 08:41:24 pm
And about the yawn: nothing about it is proved. "very good ideas", okay, but ideas are just ideas after all.

Having solid scientific theories is a lot different than "this is just some mysterious thing that always has been".

And again, even if we had no clue at all this is something that we all agree to be true.  Nobody is agreeing with you about your statements towards women.  This is why you have to justify it.  By the way, the argument you halfway tried to make doesn't make sense either.  There being fewer women presidents doesn't mean that men are better at the job.  It just means that there are...fewer women presidents.  There are fewer women than men in a lot of fields, but that doesn't mean that women aren't as good at those things.  There are tons and tons of social issues that lead to there being less women in various things.  This has nothing to do with their aptitude.  So where is your proof that women are worse than men at making games (or any of the other great cans of worms you opened up earlier)?
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Post by: dada on June 21, 2011, 08:47:05 pm
I miss Steel for this exact reason :(
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 08:47:28 pm
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Nobody is agreeing with you about your statements towards women.
Still the facts can't be ignored.

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There being fewer women presidents doesn't mean that men are better at the job.  It just means that there are...fewer women presidents
Well, people's choice. Just like when determinating the best gam.
Also politicians select a candidate for the job before the public voting starts. So for some reason most of them consider men more worthy for the job, most of the time.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 08:56:50 pm
None of this is evidence as to why women are incapable of doing any of these things what part of this do you not understand.

"There are more men in government than women" is a fact.  "Men are better at being president than women" is not a fact.  Figure this out.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 09:01:04 pm
Then why are more men there? And why do men have better results in sports? Figure THOSE FACTS out!
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 09:33:36 pm
Then why are more men there? And why do men have better results in sports? Figure THOSE FACTS out!

That's your job, you figure it out.  You're the one using it as an argument.


Hint: none of it is because of what you probably believe it to be caused by.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 09:38:13 pm
I already said there are FACTS that are unexplainable, but undoubtable.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 09:44:21 pm
I already said there are FACTS that are unexplainable, but undoubtable.

They're very explainable.  But their explanations don't support your arguments at all.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 09:50:18 pm
Facts are facts. Eat it.

I don't even CARE for reasons. We don't have nor need to know the reason for everything.
I just gave you other examples. No matter if they were very similar or quite unsimilar.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 09:54:53 pm
Facts are facts. Eat it.

I don't even CARE for reasons. We don't have nor need to know the reason for everything.
I just gave you other examples. No matter if they were very similar or quite unsimilar.

This isn't an argument and at this point you are basically admitting you have nothing to support your misogyny except misappropriating statistical facts into "evidence" for a conclusion they don't even vaguely support.  Okay, great!
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 09:59:08 pm
Statistics > all
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 10:02:26 pm
Statistics > all

You don't understand what I'm saying, do you?  The statistics you're putting forward are true--but they don't support your argument even one bit.  It's the way you're trying to USE them that's wrong, not the facts themselves.  But you're such an obtuse person that I shouldn't bother trying to make this clear for you.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 21, 2011, 10:05:03 pm
I would prefer to use this topic to talk about the gam now.
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Post by: SegNin on June 21, 2011, 10:29:01 pm
In that case, let's end this debate once and for all...

http://rpgmaker.net/users/Archeia_Nessiah/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/SorceressKyrsty/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/Liberty/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/Skie%20Fortress/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/Mary%204D/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/maia/games/
http://rpgmaker.net/users/WolfCoder/games/
http://www.amaranthia.com/modules/oledrion/manufacturer.php?manu_id=1

ET AL...

/thread
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 10:44:03 pm
Obviously all of them had men make their games for them.
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Post by: Biggles on June 21, 2011, 11:23:56 pm
thanks for ruining the topic Batistaberg

Shit yes. On time as always.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 21, 2011, 11:28:28 pm
thanks for ruining the topic Batistaberg

Shit yes. On time as always.

women are obviously better posters than men -.-


"Yeah I like Posters of Woman *wink*" ~ dday
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Post by: Biggles on June 21, 2011, 11:40:57 pm
men are illiterate. i actually walk around with my laptop asking girls if they can rephrase my posts for the internet for me. they're all "what, you were too cheap to pay for a Something Awful account? nice spambots hank hill." it really hurts how they are sexist towards me with the propane jokes and automobile fixing requests (i cannot even drive) but i dont have any other choice.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 22, 2011, 01:20:10 am
Batistaberg's support for his arguments all seem to stem from an assumption that every human being on this planet has an innate sense of knowing what is best for the world, and making all of their decisions based on this knowledge that is common to everyone.

Having such an assumption, I believe, is far more dangerous than any given form of misogyny in the world. I would suffice to say, that it is the primary source of any sort of socio-political problem ever known throughout the history of all mankind.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 22, 2011, 01:26:30 am
Batistaberg's support for his arguments all seem to stem from an assumption that every human being on this planet has an innate sense of knowing what is best for the world, and making all of their decisions based on this knowledge that is common to everyone.

Having such an assumption, I believe, is far more dangerous than any given form of misogyny in the world. I would suffice to say, that it is the primary source of any sort of socio-political problem ever known throughout the history of all mankind.

Plus, obviously there are more men politicians because they're better suited and not due to countless centuries of patriarchy whose residue still hold women down severely in certain fields.


Why do so few women make games?  It's because of people like Batistaberg.  You were the answer to the question all along.
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 22, 2011, 01:42:27 am
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Fraser_spiral.svg/597px-Fraser_spiral.svg.png)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 22, 2011, 04:22:03 am
Whine, "those evil men hold us down!!!!111"

Just because you weren't good enough to resist.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 22, 2011, 12:53:55 pm
Whine, "those evil men hold us down!!!!111"

Just because you weren't good enough to resist.

ahahahaha okay we're done here, thanks for summing up the entire history of gender relations for me


edit: also apply what you just said to the slavery that happened in the U.S. because if it still sounds valid to you then you're racist too (possible)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 22, 2011, 02:28:37 pm
I'm black.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 22, 2011, 02:33:12 pm
I'm black.

Great, so how don't you see what's wrong with what you said?
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Post by: Faust on June 22, 2011, 04:42:35 pm
This is still going on?

Batistaberg, you're black? It's always weird when a member of a minority that many are prejudiced towards suddenly comes out with prejudices of their own. You'd genuinely think you'd be a little more...well I was going to say "open-minded", but I think that's a bit of an understatement so let's say "less douchey" instead.

Genuinely statistics don't prove competence by any means. The UK statistics for education show Afro-Carribean boys massively under performing on average at Key Stage 2 and 3; does this mean that they're naturally underperforming due to inferiority? Of course not. All it proves is that there are FACTORS stopping them performing. Do we then immediately demand that those factors are natural inferiority? Well yeah, if we're racists. If we're not, we'd actually look at those factors and try to work out WHY, as opposed to just saying "Man dem dark'ns ain't good at booklearnin'!"

I use the analogy to mirror what you're saying about women in lead roles in society. The fact that women underperform in terms of getting paid as much and in promotional terms does NOT mean that they're inferior in any way. It means there are FACTORS stopping them from achieving everything they could. Factors like, you know, society being run by men and biased/weighted towards men, especially in the better and more important professions? That's a pretty big factor I'd think.

Or, of course, we can just put it all down to the fact that men are better than women, sure. Just like how white people are better than black people, abled people are better than disabled people, straight people are better than gay people, and rich people are better than poor people. I mean, the statistics back this up right? How many black/disabled/gay/poor presidents do we have in the West compared to straight white able-bodied men?

Statistics can be a clue in working things out, but all they prove is that there's an issue in the first place, nothing more.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 24, 2011, 01:14:02 pm
Survival of the strongest?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 24, 2011, 01:26:54 pm
Survival of the strongest?

(http://secxtanx.com/dump/cantmoveface/welp.gif)
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Post by: tuxedo marx on June 24, 2011, 02:29:38 pm
the implication that because you are black you can't be racist is also hilarious
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Post by: Vellfire on June 24, 2011, 02:32:02 pm
Hey Batistaberg all of the U.S. presidents except one have been white, why are blacks unsuited to be presidents???  Is it because they aren't as strong and clever as whites?


I mean Obama had to run with Biden who is white so he doesn't count, he had help from a white.
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on June 24, 2011, 04:20:31 pm
the implication that because you are black you can't be racist is also hilarious

It's funny in the sense that we really can't be sure we have erased inequality within our society unless people who are in the minority can be just as racist as everyone else that takes up the majority.

Only when we had a building crashed into by muslim extremists could we really say for sure that Martin Luther King Jr's dream has actually come true.

(according to Bastiaberg, it's perfectly okay for so many people to die in that crash, because it was only the people who were too weak to have the ability to stop an airplane from crashing into their building from inside of that building. Also, that they could die knowing that them dieing is really, just the fault of the people who died inside the plane for being too weak to collectively stop a couple of 'extremists' from hijacking their flight in the first place! People who have the ability to successfully escape from a collapsing burning skyscraper from a hundred or so stories up have more right to live than anyone else anyhow. I think the terrorists knew that the whole time, which means that the whole plot was actually invented to HELP America rather than harm it. Letting people who are too weak for darwinian survival live is the REAL threat to America in this instance! Because we all know that if we allow people too weak to survive on their own to make up more than 50% of the population of a single country, it is only a matter of time before the country itself dies at the hands of another country whose population is much more fit for survival.)
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Post by: hero_bash on June 25, 2011, 01:29:34 am
black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black
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Post by: Gulp on June 25, 2011, 04:30:08 am
How many black/disabled/gay/poor presidents do we have in the West compared to straight white able-bodied men?

Statistics can be a clue in working things out, but all they prove is that there's an issue in the first place, nothing more.

FDR was in a wheelchair and John F. Kennedy was horribly sick throughout most of his presidency, Andrew Jackson was apparently born into poverty, and Obama is black. We have yet to have an OPENLY gay president, though.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 25, 2011, 04:32:09 am
Andrew Jackson was a badass motherfucker though.  He actually DOES fit into Batistaberg's dumb survival of the fittest mentality.  Dude started gun duels at the drop of a hat and he was so full of lead from these duels that some people said he rattled like a bag of marbles.
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Post by: Faust on June 25, 2011, 12:15:53 pm
John Quincy Adams is number six / And it's Andrew Jackson's butt he kicks / So Jackson learns to play politics / Next time he's the one that the country picks!
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Post by: Vellfire on June 25, 2011, 12:23:14 pm
Faust I think you have your facts wrong...people named Quincy are born losers...
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Post by: Alec on June 25, 2011, 01:53:23 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TpKVntnmX8
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Post by: Faust on June 25, 2011, 04:45:26 pm
That is pretty regular viewing in the Faust household.

That and US STATES AND THEIR CAPITALS!!
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Post by: hero_bash on June 25, 2011, 07:36:29 pm
Batistaberg tell your sister to help with the Chain Game

http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=81842.0
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 26, 2011, 10:04:11 am
I could help you with that after August.
But I guess the game will already be finished then? ^_^

My sister quit RMing due to all the insults and trolling she received with her gam.

Edit: What's the difference to Dude's RMN chaingame? I didn't like Dude's graphic style since I'm a fan of quite colorful graphics.
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Post by: hero_bash on June 26, 2011, 10:38:49 am
There's not much difference except that ours is practically dead.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 26, 2011, 11:46:19 am
Does not surprise me since there aren't screenies of it anywhere...
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Post by: Vellfire on June 26, 2011, 12:03:55 pm
I could help you with that after August.
But I guess the game will already be finished then? ^_^

My sister quit RMing due to all the insults and trolling she received with her gam.

Edit: What's the difference to Dude's RMN chaingame? I didn't like Dude's graphic style since I'm a fan of quite colorful graphics.

"You invited my sister to work on it??? Well she's a dumb girl I'll work on it."

By the way, nobody insulted or trolled your sister.  Except you.  You're the one who was going on and on about how useless girls are (especially at making games).  We were just telling YOU what a piece of shit you are.  Your sister had nothing to do with this.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 26, 2011, 12:46:03 pm
She was insulted and trolled on another site 9 months ago for that game.
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Post by: hero_bash on June 27, 2011, 04:30:24 am
could you post a pic of your sister
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Post by: Biggles on June 27, 2011, 11:11:15 am
oh come now. really?
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 02:58:00 pm
Well, she shows just 1 picture to the public on Facebook, so... I will pick that one. Not her best one, but who cares.

http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/24bnrlhz/Cara.jpg (http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/24bnrlhz/Cara.jpg)
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 03:17:04 pm
you are a really bad brother
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 03:17:45 pm
i mean jesus even my brother wouldn't just start giving out pictures of me to people on forums
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Post by: Faust on June 27, 2011, 03:36:37 pm
I was going to post some crack about the picture, but then I realised that it could be conceived as a guy in his late twenties making seedy remarks about like a 14 year old.

I took the moral highground and decided against it!
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 06:39:04 pm
Well, it's her public picture in Facebook, so everybody can see it anyway.
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Post by: dada on June 27, 2011, 08:27:08 pm
I would just like to say

(http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/hi_batistaberg.png)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 08:43:34 pm
What in the name of the lord... ?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 08:50:19 pm
Well, it's her public picture in Facebook, so everybody can see it anyway.

Nobody here knows her name and wouldn't be able to find it. Don't just give her photo to creeps on the Internet what is wrong with you you are the worst brother.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 08:52:29 pm
Gamingw = creeps? I thought you are nice people that I can trust.
Also I just wanted to show you that you really hurt a little girl, if you say games like her's are responsible for the horrible reputation of the RM scene.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 08:56:46 pm
Gamingw = creeps? I thought you are nice people that I can trust.
Also I just wanted to show you that you really hurt a little girl, if you say games like her's are responsible for the horrible reputation of the RM scene.

Only the one asking for her pics was creepy. Also, she's not a little girl, but girls are defenseless, right??? She'll feel better knowing you're giving Hero Bash her picture and saying women are useless in te thread about her game. Plus, you JUST told us that it was another site insulting her. We've said nothing bad about her or her game. But guess what? You've said some pretty awful things about women, specifically women who make games. That's your sister. Stop being such an asshole.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 09:16:56 pm
In my first reply I said it's a good gam by a woman, and so an exception.
Also I helped her, so it doesn't count anyway.

And I told you to stop the insults 10 pages ago and you wouldn't listen... so don't give me orders.

Edit: Oh and by the way, you made a double post on the last page. What do you think the "modify"-button is for?
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 09:19:57 pm
In my first reply I said it's a good gam by a woman, and so an exception.
Also I helped her, so it doesn't count anyway.

And I told you to stop the insults 10 pages ago and you wouldn't listen... so don't give me orders.

Literally zero people insulted your sister. Only you. Because you're awful. But whatever, keep on thinking you're the world's best bro for saying your sister can only do things if you fix her shit afterwards.
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 09:23:48 pm
Well FOR A WOMAN she did very well. It was clear that I had to help, but still I'm quite satisfied with her work.
And about the insults AGAINST MY SISTER I was referring to another site.
About YOUR insults AGAINST ME I was referring to the happenings in this topic.

Oh, and by the way Hero Bash can't be a creep. I trust him since he's the leader of the chain game and so a productive dude.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 09:25:25 pm
Well FOR A WOMAN she did very well.

lolllllll okay then world's best bro
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Post by: Vellfire on June 27, 2011, 09:34:01 pm
By the way I don't deny insulting you because your feelings towards women are so blatantly terrible that you deserve everything you get hope this helps.

As for your comment about the RM community, most people don't want to be in a community where you get support for comments like yours against women. Your complaint is a GOOD aspect of this site. Try posting your opinions about women gamemakers on other sites and they'll tell you the same (although probably in a more passive aggressive way)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 27, 2011, 09:41:53 pm
I don't think anybody would be more aggressive than you.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 28, 2011, 03:17:33 am
I have every right to be.  You're entirely offensive to women in all of your posts about them, it'd be a little disgusting for me to not feel aggressive about that.
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Post by: hero_bash on June 28, 2011, 12:45:36 pm
thanks for the pic. i will print it now to frame and post in my bedroom wall..


PS
you fail as a brother it's sad. :/
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Post by: AznChipmunk on June 28, 2011, 08:20:59 pm
Well FOR A WOMAN she did very well. It was clear that I had to help, but still I'm quite satisfied with her work.
And about the insults AGAINST MY SISTER I was referring to another site.
About YOUR insults AGAINST ME I was referring to the happenings in this topic.

Oh, and by the way Hero Bash can't be a creep. I trust him since he's the leader of the chain game and so a productive dude.

Curiously, where else was your sister insulted? And for what reasons?
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 28, 2011, 08:39:19 pm
Quote from: Vellfire
I have every right to be.  You're entirely offensive to women in all of your posts about them, it'd be a little disgusting for me to not feel aggressive about that.
Whine.

Quote from: Hero
thanks for the pic. i will print it now to frame and post in my bedroom wall..


PS
you fail as a brother it's sad. :/
Happy fapping. I never said I'm a good bro. It was favor enough to present the game against my will.

Quote from: Chipotle
Curiously, where else was your sister insulted? And for what reasons?
The place is irrelevant, but it was a RM site and some kids FROM OTHER PLACES registered just to hate against the game claiming games like this would be responsible for the horrible reputation of the RM scene.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 28, 2011, 10:20:22 pm
Yeah that's no one from here nice try tho.
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Post by: Puppet Master on June 29, 2011, 01:56:22 am
I'm kind of amazed this hasn't gotten locked yet.
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Post by: Vellfire on June 29, 2011, 02:45:13 am
the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 29, 2011, 04:18:45 am
Well, show me one game presentation that has ever been locked, Puppet Master. It's pointless to lock them cuz people are playing gams after years and still give feedback or even review.

Whatever, I know it was nobody from here with the insults, but some raging kids from a German site. They're always trying to save the RM scene with their classical Refmap RPGs and rage about RTP gams or comedy gams worrying about the respect and fame for the scene. -,-
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Post by: dada on June 29, 2011, 07:23:57 pm
I'm kind of amazed this hasn't gotten locked yet.
I don't really see a reason to. Batistaberg accepted this discussion by partaking in it. Locking or splitting and moving this topic might be a good idea if we had a ton of traffic and a need for strong moderation in this subforum, but right now it might as well stay this way.

You know it's for discussions like this one that Steel was my favorite member. He was relentless in matters of equality and discrimination and would have made Batistaberg regret ever registering here pages ago. He would have laid down the law. Especially on the issue of gender discrimination (he was a self-described feminist). The idea of women being worse at something than men due to the specific fact that they are women is no different than believing in, say, the notion that whites are the smartest race and should be giving out orders to the other, dumber races. Which is a pretty terrible thing to believe in and disputed by modern research.

The real reason why there aren't as many women in game development (although there have been quite a few extremely successful ones) is mostly because the industry and its related cultures are extremely masculine and juvenile in nature. As are most industries, actually, including the generic blue and white collar jobs.
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Post by: UPRC on June 29, 2011, 07:47:21 pm
Curiously, where else was your sister insulted? And for what reasons?
RMN. He also deleted the game from there. There's a lot of fun reading to do through here: http://rpgmaker.net/users/Deacon%20Batista/ (http://rpgmaker.net/users/Deacon%20Batista/)
Check out his Aorta game.
(http://www.walagata.com/w/uprc/AortaBS02.png)

Plus wow Batistaberg, you're such a sexist fuckhead. Must be cool to be hating on women and deeming them inferior all the time. Sure makes you look like a stand up guy, chum.

My advice: Never let post blatant sexist comments ever again on the internet. There are communities that will tear you a new one very quickly for such views. Vellfire pretty much has every reason to wish castration upon you, bud... And her response is pretty tame compared to what you'd get elsewhere.
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Post by: dada on June 29, 2011, 08:30:04 pm
Pictured: every female ever.

(http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/tumblr_lmymfqGWXN1qd2fmao1_500.gif)

---

Pictured: Batistaberg.

(http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/quark.gif)
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Post by: Batistaberg on June 30, 2011, 08:28:17 pm
@ UPRC:
I did not delete the game früm RMN, it got deleted cuz too many whinekids raged.

And why linking a project that is linked in my signature with pictures anyway?
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Post by: Puppet Master on June 30, 2011, 08:39:34 pm
I don't really see a reason to. Batistaberg accepted this discussion by partaking in it. Locking or splitting and moving this topic might be a good idea if we had a ton of traffic and a need for strong moderation in this subforum, but right now it might as well stay this way.

Yeah, I guess I'm just thinking back to when Game Design still busy, which was like 5 years ago now that I think about it.
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 01, 2011, 01:21:01 pm
... more 8 years ago.
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Post by: Gulp on July 02, 2011, 03:52:14 am
girls cant program there boobs get in the way of the keybord
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Post by: Vellfire on July 02, 2011, 05:59:33 am
http://members.shaw.ca/skewed/ggs/ggs.html (http://members.shaw.ca/skewed/ggs/)
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 02, 2011, 01:46:38 pm
Quote from: Gulp
girls cant program there boobs get in the way of the keybord
Then where are Vellfire's programs? X,-DD
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Post by: Vellfire on July 02, 2011, 02:12:31 pm
Then where are Vellfire's programs? X,-DD

Jesus even Anteater which is barely even started is better than RPG Maker Chrono Trigger rip shit with elf upskirts in your sig.

I should get back to work on it really, because guess what girls can make games EVEN BY THEMSELVES.
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 02, 2011, 03:37:12 pm
Well, Chrono Trigger rips are quite rarely used and popular. And so is upskirt stuff (except for some little amount of crybabies who got offended because their moms won't allow them to play the game anyway.)

And you're just jealous, because everybody would cut out their eyes if you would do an upskirt pic of yourself. ;-)

But yeah, start working again. Better than wasting time with spam.
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Post by: Vellfire on July 02, 2011, 04:05:55 pm
Well, Chrono Trigger rips are quite rarely used and popular.

Let me just stop you right there.


By the way your game is total nonsense, you couldn't have made it without the help of a woman (your mom (for giving birth to you))
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 02, 2011, 05:04:00 pm
You can't call a game nonsense which hasn't even been released. -,-

And yes, my mom helped me a lot with it. Also all the hot chicks that took part in the casting to determine the one whose pictures I will use to draw Aorta from...
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Post by: Gulp on July 02, 2011, 10:30:55 pm
you are a horrible person.
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 02, 2011, 10:34:05 pm
(http://static.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/49872-Germany_Soccer_Enke_Obit_FAS114.jpg)
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Post by: Vellfire on July 02, 2011, 10:35:36 pm
The hottest girl Batistaberg could find was a crude anime elf. This is pretty telling.
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 02, 2011, 10:45:12 pm
it had to be an elf. it's not easy to find hot elves.

She was dismissed because her nose was gigantic:
(http://www.warcraft-riches.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/2007-blizzcon-cosplay-elf-blonde-hot.jpg)
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Post by: Vellfire on July 02, 2011, 11:14:17 pm
Yes please keep telling us your opinions on women.

Do the one about women drivers.
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Post by: Faust on July 02, 2011, 11:58:47 pm
Wait, is the implication that that woman isn't beautiful because she doesn't have a tiny nose?

I'm confused - she looks pretty beautiful to me.

Batistaberg, you will never lose your virginity if you keep discounting women based on tiny, tiny flaws. It is like Chandler Bing from friends.
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Post by: Vellfire on July 03, 2011, 04:33:39 am
Wait, is the implication that that woman isn't beautiful because she doesn't have a tiny nose?

I'm confused - she looks pretty beautiful to me.

Batistaberg, you will never lose your virginity if you keep discounting women based on tiny, tiny flaws. It is like Chandler Bing from friends.

Look at any anime made in the last 10 or so years.  Girls don't have noses anymore in anime.  Batistaberg's ideal woman is an anime.
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Post by: Biggles on July 03, 2011, 10:02:33 am
Batistaberg, you will never lose your virginity if you keep discounting women based on tiny, tiny flaws. It is like Chandler Bing from friends.
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/9445882/tumblr_lkcalrPuWe1qa5q8po1_500_thumb.gif?1304516578)LADIES I'VE GOT BADNEWS FOR YOU
video games are __off limits__ (unles your an anime)

Also my flatmate was talking to me about how historically a lot of diseases such as tuberculosis, and 'erotic tendencies' were explained as illnesses of the ovaries, which caused doctors, rationally, to remove the offending organ. By one estimate, the operation was performed on 150,000 American woman. Apparently it was believed that a woman's personality and physiology were controlled entirely by her ovaries (http://books.google.com/books?id=s0dh6tQnNyAC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=Dr.+W.W.+Bliss+ovaries&source=bl&ots=WAPS4bNZME&sig=BE51bvZQ48AcQHDYsIB35OnOe2s&hl=en&ei=bzoQTtzBKIf0mAW1pfykDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Dr.%20W.W.%20Bliss%20ovaries&f=false). Just like in anime![/font]
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 11:16:27 am
Faust, looks like you are very easy to please...
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 01:03:41 pm
Haha you'd be surprised! I don't usually dig chicks, but that woman looks amazing.
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 01:31:45 pm
Well, don't judge as long as you can't even see her titts.
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Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 01:32:42 pm
You know, I'm beginning to warm to you!

YOU ARE LIKE THE SON I WILL NEVER HAVE HAHA!
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Post by: Vellfire on July 03, 2011, 01:37:11 pm
You know, I'm beginning to warm to you!

YOU ARE LIKE THE SON I WILL NEVER HAVE HAHA!

But Faust...we all know you hate women too xD

BUT IT'S CUTE WHEN YOU DO IT.
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 01:39:30 pm
Vell I am going to take Batistaberg under my wing and teach him how to treat a woman. Then we can be two lonely and bitter old men together, sitting in our dark flat and agreeing with each other and agreeing about how it's the female population's fault that our lives turned out like this.

ACCOUNTABILITY? NO WAY!!!
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Vellfire on July 03, 2011, 02:34:26 pm
Vell I am going to take Batistaberg under my wing and teach him how to treat a woman. Then we can be two lonely and bitter old men together, sitting in our dark flat and agreeing with each other and agreeing about how it's the female population's fault that our lives turned out like this.

At what point in this plan do you touch his willy?
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Carrion Crow on July 03, 2011, 03:09:41 pm
You know, I'm beginning to warm to you!

YOU ARE LIKE THE SON I WILL NEVER HAVE HAHA!

Ahaha you bastard I actually sniggered diet pepsi up my nose when I read this! [/sinus firestorm]
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 03:50:45 pm
Wow, Faust is really an old creep.
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Post by: Vellfire on July 03, 2011, 03:55:51 pm
And yet somehow he's infinitely less of a disgusting person than you!  You might wanna reevaluate your life!
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Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 04:21:49 pm
Ouch, BURN!

Dude if you're being compared unfavourably with me then it IS probably time to reevaluate a little. This is one of those times when you step away from the PC, take a good long look in the mirror and go "Wow, ok, so this is me is it?"

I guarantee you life changing results, such as purging misogyny and maybe becoming a monk or some shit to account for your many sins :(
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 04:56:53 pm
I have sins?
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Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 05:13:44 pm
More than you can imagine sirrah!
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Carrion Crow on July 03, 2011, 05:18:27 pm
I still can't figure out if Faust is a guy or a gal.
Title: Alex's Scar [complete]
Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 05:43:13 pm
I have no sins!
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Post by: Faust on July 03, 2011, 06:12:57 pm
I still can't figure out if Faust is a guy or a gal.

Haha, RETRO!!!
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 03, 2011, 09:57:27 pm
let's return to the gam now
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Post by: Vellfire on July 03, 2011, 11:17:15 pm
Nah I think we've not even scratched the surface on you yet...tell us more of your opinions let's sort this out.
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Post by: Batistaberg on July 04, 2011, 04:37:18 am
My opinions are: Let's return to the gam now.
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Post by: dada on July 04, 2011, 11:11:29 am
Man.

There's no real reason to lock this topic but this is just embarrassing at this point. It's astonishing he thinks we can all go back to "talking about the game" and forgetting this whole discussion ever happened.

What happened is Batistaberg thinks women are no good at making games for the specific fact that they are women. Any or all accomplishments women have made in the game industry "don't count" because they "received help from men along the way". I should note at this time that Batistaberg had been banned before, is banned on IRC (http://wedemandhtml.com/tmp/hi_batistaberg.png), and also on HBGames and RPG RPG Revolution, and who knows where else. The only reason he hasn't been banned again is because I think people agree that his stupidity is light entertainment.