so is anything like getting drunk? By that I mean the feelings, dizzyness, and good times. You know, the symptoms and the shit you feel.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2864858f08699e/haha, I expected that to be some binaural beat shit
Does this sound really really good to you
so is anything like getting drunk? By that I mean the feelings, dizzyness, and good times. You know, the symptoms and the shit you feel.
What was your datura trip like? I heard that datura is completely nutso.
it's a type of sage that has unique psychoactive properties, but no biological risk at all. ideally, the only way you can have a problem with it is if you have a bad trip but if you've got a friend to watch over you and make sure the environment stays calm that isn't a problem. I'd like to try it but I've already said why I can't in the woym thread (this is where the IDEALLY comes into effect; some people have bad experiences with it, but this is the case with nearly every drug and probably every hallucinogenic)
What's Datura and what was that like?
Also, while you're on LSD and things like that do you have a person nearby to make sure you don't do stupid shit or are you aware enough to realize what's going on?
what do you enjoy about smoking pot? im not trying to be an asshole or ruin your topic but seriously whenver i smoke pot i just like zone out get really lazy but music is better.
Do you do drugs just to pass time? If so, why not something else?
What exactly is an LSD trip like?
Is it true that trips on Salvia tend to be extremely short? I've heard it compared to a 15-20 minute trip on LSD.
Also, have you hallucinated on your LSD trips, and, if so, to what extent?
in what way does music enhance drug experiences and what sorts of music would you suggest (METAL MACHINE MUSIC)?
The reason I KEEP doing drugs is because they really open new ways of thinking up to me. Some of the thoughts I have had are so incredible, it would be impossible to explain to someone who has never experimented.
This is one of the things I've thought a lot about whenever drugs have come up. I've never done any drugs (not counting alcohol), so it really leaves me wondering what kind of thoughts you are speaking of. While I'm sure drugs open new pathways for one to think or create (I'm sure we've heard the "all good books / all good music / all good thoughts have been conceived on drug trips" -argument), do they REALLY do that, or are they just fooling your brain into thinking you've come up with something incredible?
I mean, what kind of incredible thought is that if you can't even explain it on this messageboard? As I said though, I don't really doubt it beacuse one of my favourite albums (Marillion's Misplaced Childhood) is the product of an acid trip. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of the whole "enlightening" thing that is so often associated with drugs.
Did you do this because Fatty joned you so hard?:colb:
When you are on strong psychoactives, it is as if your mind has sprouted another appendage, and now it must focus completely inward to fully explore it. Now imagine if when your mind looked inward it saw - AND BECAME - the entire universe.
I myself have an addiction that I get from Histrionic Personality Disorder (being a nymphomaniac) but since I am a responsible person (addicted to safe sex) it actually makes me an unusually healthy girl. The fact is that this drug would be healthy for anyone above the age of 14. The name of the drug is Dopamine and it is produced inside my brain in a gland called the hypothalamus whenever you have an orgasm. Women live longer then men because they get more dopamine then men (men can not have multiple orgasms). Not because of other statistics. Dopamine is good for every living cell in your body and I recommend you all get some sex toys or look for some nice healthy partners then get as much dopamine as you can responsibly. On the other hand drugs like diamorphene (heroin) methalphetamines, morphine, cocaine, crack, are all similar to dopamine in their chemical structure but since they are not produced by the hypothalamus also because they are stronger then dopamine when you first take them your first high with a drug like meth is the highest you will ever get and the future highs will keep going down. Worst of all ,when you take them your dopamine producing gland shrivels up and dies so you do get addicted to these drugs.I read in an article somewhere that men can indeed have multiple orgasms but you have to push/pull something in your dooch so that it will work so I guess that is a no-no
Get addicted to safe sex its better then hard stimulants:
Fiona B.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, from what I have observed from friends, Two full leavves chewed lasts between 60-80 minutes, though Erowid says its between 30-40.Well, you peak at about two minutes and then after that it's sort of a downhill fall back to reality that lasts for maybe 10-15 minutes. It's really short, disorienting, and not that good at all. You also don't chew the leaves.
But anyway, what is the 'highest' level drug you ever think you will try? Please don't say crack, or cocaine.
That sounds pretty intriguing, but I was actually looking for more concrete examples. Even if your mind becomes the universe and you suddenly understand where we came from and what we are here for, there's no point if you can't explain it to other people.
So, what I'm really trying to ask, would you say drugs have provided you with insight that has somehow, in a noticeable way, helped you or someone else in real life?
Okay uhhh, one more question...
What do yo think would happen if yo took LSD, MJ and good ol' alcohol
and DIDN'T OverDose?
Would it be like, a MIND-BLOWING experience or jst pretty weird?
Why do drug users sound like psuedo intillectual douches when trying to describe how mind-opening they are?
DRUGS ARE BAD FOR YOU
THEY CAUSE HARM TO YOU AND OTHERS AND YOU WILL END UP DOING STUPID THINGS IN LIFE
YOU WILL TURN HOMO
How do you respond to this?
:words:
But anyway, what is the 'highest' level drug you ever think you will try? Please don't say crack, or cocaine.
in what way does music enhance drug experiences and what sorts of music would you suggest (METAL MACHINE MUSIC)?
What the fuck man, how are you still alive/not insane after you combined MARIJUANA and LSD, I mean, for the love of Ra,
I have no idea what they actually do to but I assume that even if they are CLOSE to alcohol, then f*ck, I want LSD :(
Salvia is pretty mindblowing. Say goodbye to reality for 5-10 minutes and prepare to spend the next few hours or days (trying to) process the experience.
Well, I got it from my friend. It's legal so you can definitely buy it on the internet, but I don't know about quality or anything. This (http://www.salvia-divinorum.com/) is the first thing that turned up when I googled it. I've also heard that extract is a lot better than smoking leaves, so you'll probably want to go with that.Australia was the first place to make it illegal. LAME.
Why should I do drugs?
I'm looking forward to it. How did you take it? Like I said above I have 1g 10x extract and 1g 20x extract. I plan on just going balls out and going straight for the 20x, but I imagine it's more the amount than the x-factor, right?
Where in the good lords name do you get all these drugs?
Pot is the only one I can find reliably, although maybe cause I'm in the great southern land.
I started packing two bowls of 20x, taking huuuuuge hits and holding in for 30 seconds or so. Got two hits each (me and a friend). Tried to pack a third but reality left me so I couldn't. If you're not worried about a bad trip or anything go hard, if you have any doubts start off slow.
This is very bad advice!
Overdosing on Pot: Near Impossibleehhh....the first time I tried pot it was actually in the form of "special" brownies (since I'm against smoking, bad for your health), and I OD'd horribly, cause I ate like 8 pieces. it took over an hour to get high, but when I did, it lasted the rest of the night and the whole day afterward. pretty fucked up. don't do it this way unless you know your limit.
Why should I waste good money on a product that only provides instant satisfaction but absolutely no gain in my immediate future when I could do something more useful like investing in stock or something?
note: this is a serious question.
ehhh....the first time I tried pot it was actually in the form of "special" brownies (since I'm against smoking, bad for your health), and I OD'd horribly, cause I ate like 8 pieces. it took over an hour to get high, but when I did, it lasted the rest of the night and the whole day afterward. pretty fucked up. don't do it this way unless you know your limit.
I think he means like OD'ing and dying (or experiencing severe health damage).no, i pretty much OD'ed....I didn't die though.
A hit of acid is about $10 and you can get a 8oz bottle of cough syrup for $7 and a a half 1/8 of shrooms is about $15 around here. Comparatively a movie ticket is $8 without a drink or popcorn or anything. Drugs really aren't that much unless you are constantly doing them.where do you get your shit? my friend told me LSD isn't around anymore (maybe not in the Tri-State area but idk). I'm pretty sure he's wrong about that, but still. He also said that the cough syrup stuff isn't worth it because all you do is just get nausous.
Oh yeah? Describe your experience.Well...since it was my first time, I was told that I probably wouldn't get a high. I ate a lot of it. There were three other people with me who also got high: the guy who baked the stuff, lets call him Spike, his girlfriend, lets call her Larry, and another kid, he'll be Ahmed. We were hanging out at Ahmed's house, the other three were all high. I went to the bathroom because I needed to piss and suddenly it felt like I was in the ocean, not really like an ocean, but just the current that goes up and down and the undertow and like that. Each time the "wave" came up I got really really dizzy. I came out and Spike said, "yo dude you don't look good. Its finally hitting right?" I said, "what? I'm not good?" He said no and so I sat down in a chair. All four of us were sitting then and I remember thinking how cool it was that I was seeing 3 different types of highs: Spike was pretty chill, he still functioned fine, his girlfriend was all panicked, I suppose she was bugging out, and Ahmed was just beat. He probably looked the same as I did when the high really came on for me.
...That's not ODing. That's just being high. Really fucking high, but not ODing.well okay then :shrug:
Why should I waste good money on a product that only provides instant satisfaction but absolutely no gain in my immediate future when I could do something more useful like investing in stock or something?lots of people say this, and i guess it's more or less true if that's your particular value of life experiences.
He also said that the cough syrup stuff isn't worth it because all you do is just get nausous.seriously, only pussies say this. or people with really weak stomachs. part of the nausea will come from the taste of cough medicine, which can be masked by holding your nose as you swallow the syrup and then washing your mouth out with mouthwash afterwards. and that's only if you REALLY REALLY are repulsed by the taste of cough syrup. i find it more difficult to quickly down an entire alcoholic beverage than i do to down an entire bottle of cough syrup.
Why should I waste good money on a product that only provides instant satisfaction but absolutely no gain in my immediate future when I could do something more useful like investing in stock or something?
note: this is a serious question.
where do you get your shit? my friend told me LSD isn't around anymore (maybe not in the Tri-State area but idk). I'm pretty sure he's wrong about that, but still. He also said that the cough syrup stuff isn't worth it because all you do is just get nausous.
my frnds such a fagget he wont smoke a joint wit me cause he thinks he will die, is there any liek proof about the actual "safeness" of pot?
this brings me to question: some of the psychoactive drugs, are they closer to being a dream and detached or do they feel as real as other experiences, looking back?
where do you get your shit? my friend told me LSD isn't around anymore (maybe not in the Tri-State area but idk). I'm pretty sure he's wrong about that, but still. He also said that the cough syrup stuff isn't worth it because all you do is just get nausous.
my frnds such a fagget he wont smoke a joint wit me cause he thinks he will die, is there any liek proof about the actual "safeness" of pot?Well uh, if he doesn't feel comfortable taking any risks then maybe you shouldn't push him. My friend's pal ended up pretty messed up after a marijuana-induced psychosis, so yeah.
Which is impossible with pot.Unless you smoke 180 joints a day.
Unless you smoke 180 joints a day.
To make you look cooler.
lots of people say this, and i guess it's more or less true if that's your particular value of life experiences.
i mean, i've done some fairly neat things in my life. things that meant a lot to me, even though they might not mean anything to others. not near as much as i want to experience, but i feel i'm generally on the right track. for me, these experiences have a cumulative effect on my conscious(and probably subconscious) mind. they put thoughts in my head, and widen my perception of the world. this is of particular use to me considering i am a writer. sometimes what might be a tiny experience that meant nothing to others ended up inspiring something really great in me. this is, of course, something of a stretch. every hour of every day of my life is not interesting and meaningful. saying that i could have put that time to better tangible use is obviously true. i've written stories that i've abandoned, done things that i forgot about/didn't care about, interacted people i would discard/would discard me. but i have a tough time regretting these experiences. they're responsible for shaping the person i am today, and i value those interesting moments and experiences greatly.
i'm not even talking about drugs here. apart from inconsequentially smoking weed a few times, i haven't done drugs for two years. but i will classify drugs in the same category. they're kinda like taking a vacation, you know? with the right stuff, you are GOING SOMEWHERE and SEEING SOMETHING NEW. maybe that means nothing to you, i don't know.
so yeah, drugs have no practical use or application. you aren't going to make money off doing drugs, you aren't going to get jobs off of doing drugs. you're going to experience something interesting and different, and that's absolutely it. like i said, that depends on how much you value life experiences. if BUILDING UP YOUR LIFE is defined merely by such tangible terms as MONEY and JOB, then drugs are of no use to you. but remember that not everyone defines life the same way.
:soap: :soap: :words:
grow your own damn mushroomsteach me, esse.
Oh yeah anyone had any weird after-effects of ecstasy? Like when hearing a song you heard while you were on it makes you feel spaced out? Or any other drug for that matter...
Do you ever feel paranoid or depressed or has your drug use ever had an adverse effect on your schoolwork? I ask because marijuana is the hot topic in the British media at the moment and the coverage is pretty much 100% negative. Bear in mind that this is the same British media that went up in arms when PLAYING MANHUNT KILLED MY CHILD!! so I'm not really sure what to think or whether or not I should just avoid it.
question: i live in the US, what's a good price for weed? I'm gonna get some soon and I don't feel like getting ripped off. And is there any way to tell if its good quality just from the look/smell of it?i dont know about prices... but the weed should be in tight buds, of a light green colour (could vary depending on the strain) also, crystals are as good thing. to check if its grit or not (grit is bad, silicone crystals sprayed on it to make it look good n weigh it down) dab your finger in the bud, and rub it on your teeth, see if it crunches or does anythin unusal.
Oh yeah anyone had any weird after-effects of ecstasy? Like when hearing a song you heard while you were on it makes you feel spaced out? Or any other drug for that matter...
yeah i've had walls breathin, and light changing colour after some 'yellow smilies' but thats about it.Randomly?
Do you ever feel paranoid or depressed or has your drug use ever had an adverse effect on your schoolwork? I ask because marijuana is the hot topic in the British media at the moment and the coverage is pretty much 100% negative. Bear in mind that this is the same British media that went up in arms when PLAYING MANHUNT KILLED MY CHILD!! so I'm not really sure what to think or whether or not I should just avoid it.
question: i live in the US, what's a good price for weed? I'm gonna get some soon and I don't feel like getting ripped off. And is there any way to tell if its good quality just from the look/smell of it?
EDIT: Never pay extra for weed which is supposedly "HYDRO" This is bullshit because ALL WEED is grown hydroponically these days. (except schwag) If someone trys to charge you more money because the weed is hydro then tell them where they can stick it (in their ear/ass/pipeandsmokeit)
question: i live in the US, what's a good price for weed? I'm gonna get some soon and I don't feel like getting ripped off. And is there any way to tell if its good quality just from the look/smell of it?
i heard that proper ganja was hard to come by in the states, but hash was relatively easy... is this true, or false? or dependant on state?
oh, and GB, do you use tobacco in your spliffs? and if you do what kind? like straight cigarette tobacco?
brits commonly use rolling tobacco. using pre-made cigarette tobacco is filthy and wrong.
What's your favourite hallucinogenic drug. I've always been interested in hallucinogens.
If you see white crystals in it... its probably bunk.
Do you ever feel paranoid or depressed or has your drug use ever had an adverse effect on your schoolwork?
i heard that proper ganja was hard to come by in the states, but hash was relatively easy... is this true, or false? or dependant on state?I live in Tennessee, and I've never really seen hash. Pot, however, seems to be in abundance. I've seen it in pretty much every county I've lived in. I've bought it from countless people and smoked it with even more. Hell, up until a couple of weeks ago I could have gone out of my room, walked across the hall into my girlfriend's brother's room and bought a fuckin' pound if I had the money and wanted it.
Random unrelated story.
The first time I ever tried mushrooms was the dead of a Canadian winter. A foot of snow on the ground, probably -20 or so.
I was doing alright until I realized the meaning of life.
Just hit me, of course. And I was still stable enough to know that EVERYONE, when tripping, discovers the 'meaning of life,' but forgets the next day. I was not about to let that happen.
So, unable to find a writing utensil to jot down my brilliant epiphany, I did the next best thing. Taking off my socks to avoid getting them wet, I walked outside into the snow and freezing night to write the message into the snow with my footprints. My companions finally realized where I'd gotten to, and ran outside to get me and bring me in, despite my insistances that everything was fine, because my feet were in the process of turning into snowshoes.
They warmed me up - apparantly my toes were turning blue, I don't recall - and eventually, we fell asleep.
The next morning when I stepped outside, I was alarmed to see 4-foot letters spanning not only our frotn lawn, but also the neighbor's.
The meaning of life, according to my mushroom-altered brain, is;
"Life. It's just a penny in the rain."
That's a pretty intense story mike. I'm glad you're putting your life back together.
Ps: (https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/20drugs.gif/564px-20drugs.gif)
herion is an opiate...
It's probably the only way you're going to truly enjoy techno music.no no no no no no no no
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I smoke pot every once in a while, never done pills though, what does it feel like to take ecstacy?You pretty much make up an opinion that everything is great in the universe, your body feels great and it is your mission to make sure everything becomes even more fantastic. At least, that's my experience. The mission to make everything more fantastic is to make everyone else part of the incredibly positive energy that everything is perfect. Telling your friends you love them, tell them advice on how their lives can be better (this shit can make for some really post-ecstasy awkward moments) and generally touching and giving body heat just feels like you've saved 500 children from death or something, it just feels like the ultimate justice ever, like the best thing has happened to the universe is you rubbing your friends legs or whatever.
19year old here recently passed from shrooms.Solution: Have a sitter.
He went to transformers movie came out and thought he could fly so he jumped over the 2story escalator and turned every bone up to his pelvis into dust. he died like 2weeks later when he got an infection in his pelvic bone from an interior crack (it cracked inside but never fully came to the surface of the bone so it was impossible for them to do anything)
i dont think ill be trying shroom anytime soon :confused:
Listen to my music, I'm kind of curious what would happen. :blarg:
http://www.last.fm/music/Ragnar/Homeland
Like Corno B for example, is like the most abstract thing ever
Convo, Toy Store and Mystic Cornflake are pretty freaking surreal too
Edit: Oh, and strangeloops and headonbeats too, and Boss Theme - Sewer. And somekindofcaveshit
Haha, oh man that's pretty fantastic actually.
Anyone else can answer any questions of my post (last post on the previous page?)
EDIT: Ok we've decided to all take the shrooms 30 minutes apart from eachother, so first the other guy, then me, then the experienced friend. So that atleast one of us can comfort a little after a while. Is this ok?
This may have already been asked, but I haven't been following the topic too closely, sorry if it is a repeat.I tend to use drugs on weekendly-basis, generally at a party, althou i smoke pot whenever.
How often do you do them? Like as frequently as someone might drink or just special occasions? Also, how expensive is it? Do you budget for drugs or just buy on impulse?
Again sorry if these were answered
DMT actually exists naturally in the human brain as well!as does THC... theres a whole cannabinoid network in the brain that was recently (2000-2001 I think) discovered. It mostly works with memory, specifically the part involved with forgetting. I mean.. do you really want to remember all those faces and names that you saw/heard at work today? The cannabinoid network is responsible for getting rid of superfluous memories.. so its pretty important. Keeps the brain running nice and ship shape. However smoking pot overloads it with cannabinoids and well.. you start to forget important stuff too... :-\
as does THC... theres a whole cannabinoid network in the brain that was recently (2000-2001 I think) discovered. It mostly works with memory, specifically the part involved with forgetting. I mean.. do you really want to remember all those faces and names that you saw/heard at work today? The cannabinoid network is responsible for getting rid of superfluous memories.. so its pretty important. Keeps the brain running nice and ship shape. However smoking pot overloads it with cannabinoids and well.. you start to forget important stuff too... :-\
well I dont know if delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol actually exists in the brain but very similar chemicals surely do. there are tons of different kinds of cannabinoids.
I read about it in a book about botany recently it was pretty interesting. I cant really make a good case because I read through it pretty quickly, but I'm sure if I took time to digest it more fully and look for other sources I'd be able to make a better point.
but regardless.. this stuff is still new enough and not fully understood well enough for it to be taught in psychology and physiology classes yet. I mean... we didnt detect its existance until fucking 2000 at the earliest. Its in a whole realm of things in the brain that we are only on the cusp of understanding.
Can you guys elaborate more on the hallucinogen drugs, like DMT etc.
How often do you do them? Like as frequently as someone might drink or just special occasions? Also, how expensive is it? Do you budget for drugs or just buy on impulse?
you pretty much have to smoke it all in one go so a torch lighter and a bong is best. And if its under 20X its not gonna do shit
I know it's common for first timers to not get high on pot but I've smoked like 3-4 times and I've had really nothind great. I felt maybe a little more relaxed but that is all. Is there a possible reason for that? And I find it weird... because some of my friends on the same stuff got pretty damn stoned.
How do I ask for it without appearing like a wannabe druggie moron?wear a disguise
Don't know if this question's been asked already but
I really want to try salvia. There's a smokeshop near my house that seems like it would have it, but I have no idea how to ask for it without appearing like a moron.
How do I ask for it without appearing like a wannabe druggie moron?
Look around the shop a bit, if you can't find it be like 'I was looking for some Salvia (Divinorum).. do you guys have any in a concentration 20X or greater?' and when they show you... if they like pick it off the shelf then you're good if not, then just go look for yourself where they have it. You definitely want 20X at bare minimum, but 30X is where it starts getting good and even higher is gravy unless you want to do a copious amount of low X salvia.
and if you find it before you have to ask you're even better off.
dunno though, I'd wait to see what GB has to say as hes actually probably been in a headshop to buy it before. I am 17 so I have not. Though they dont card me at the actual smoke shop that I go to to buy pipe tobacco, cloves and smoke accessories and stuff because a) I come in and I'm personable, I strike up conversation with the employees if the opportunity avails itself b) I dont fuck around looking at stuff I dont want. I go right to the area where the stuff I'm looking for is at (this may be hard if you've never been in though) c) they want my business. So that works out okay for me in that situation. Yours is a bit different no?
yeah, steel and I went in there looking for salvia a while ago and talked for a while to the guy working there about the local graffiti scene, and while I looked at the smoking section for a really long time there was too much stuff there to just find any salvia.
Ive heard (not remember where, possibly wikipedia? Or was it in a radio show...), that during REM sleep, the DMT levels in your brain peak, and that it would be the actual cause of dreams.Normal dreams are more the result of your Pons recycling all the filtered sensory material from your waking hours by firing them in electrical impulses across the cortex. The brain gets confused and tries to organize them in a logical manner and thus you get dreams. I have no explanation for lucid dreams however, and that may be your natural DMT at work, I have no idea.
So I would guess that a DMT trip looks a lot like a very vivid dream that mixes with your current surroundings in a big melting pot of sensations? And like with dreams, you would completely lose track of time, so a few minutes could feel like hours, or inversely, hours could feel like seconds? A bit like night terrors then? (a malfunction of your sleep in which you start dreaming before actually sleeping, or, more common, wake up and still see your dream mixed with reality for a few seconds)
Ok, so last saturday (not yesterday, but the saturday before) I did magic mushrooms in chocolate form, I had 2 bars of 5, cuban or mexican don't know exactly anymore (I'm not even sure if mexican exists) but it wasn't hawaiian. My trip wasn't that heavy, it was cool, but I wish I had more.
This tuesday I was planning on tripping with some other friends of mine, and I wondered (since I read that after you've used mushrooms, you usually need to wait a month before getting the full effect) what if I had mushrooms on that day again, which would mean there's 10 days in between give or take (counting like the few hours on saturday evening and tuesday morning as well).
Ive heard (not remember where, possibly wikipedia? Or was it in a radio show...), that during REM sleep, the DMT levels in your brain peak, and that it would be the actual cause of dreams.
So I would guess that a DMT trip looks a lot like a very vivid dream that mixes with your current surroundings in a big melting pot of sensations? And like with dreams, you would completely lose track of time, so a few minutes could feel like hours, or inversely, hours could feel like seconds? A bit like night terrors then? (a malfunction of your sleep in which you start dreaming before actually sleeping, or, more common, wake up and still see your dream mixed with reality for a few seconds)
You didn't read up on jenkem, did you? Those dumb-ass African kids don't know shit. It only has about a 10% bioavailability when huffed. Orally, it skyrockets to around 87%.
What about LSD flashbacks? Ever had one/worried about having one?I heard that is just a rumor and it doesn't happen nearly as much as your school books tell you. Like, it will happen if you do hits of acid or something like every single day but now what these people are doing (once in awhile). I could be wrong though.
I heard that is just a rumor and it doesn't happen nearly as much as your school books tell you. Like, it will happen if you do hits of acid or something like every single day but now what these people are doing (once in awhile). I could be wrong though.
Are you worried about becoming perma-fried? I've met people that do drugs so often that they become permanently messed up, like they are midly high all the time.
What about LSD flashbacks? Ever had one/worried about having one?
I definitely have experienced the situation of being "perma-stoned" this summer (I am REALLY fucked up right now) but it's my experience that that goes away after a while. Also, I haven't really noticed any difference in the way my brain works except that I do forget minor details, especially the date.Yeah last week I smoked really heavily for 4 days in a row and I definitely noticed some adverse effects to my mental functioning for several days afterwards. Whatever anyone says, if you smoke too much pot, you will see some decreased short term memory capacity and general irritability.
Are you worried about becoming perma-fried? I've met people that do drugs so often that they become permanently messed up, like they are midly high all the time.Yeah man... I'm always high... even if I don't smoke. -_-
Also, you said that you had a BOTTLE but that you POPPED the DXM... If you popped gel-caps (which is what I am assuming because you don't really "pop" a liquid) then It would have come in a little box, not a bottle.
Every time I have taken the DXM, I have always drank the syrup with guiafenesin in it. I have NEVER gotten sick from it. It will sit in my stomache for 20 minutes and feel a little strange, but it is nothing terrible for me. I guess I'm lucky.
Watch out for kidney stones!I heard a long time ago that those almost as painful as giving birth when you piss them out. =\
Have anyone tried cocaine here and not became like Tony Montana, because a friend of mine wants to do it but I don't want him to become addicted and die :sad:Judging from my personal experience... He won't die from it or anything. I must say that I LOVE it though... I haven't done it in about 8 or 9 months, but it's a very good feeling if you're not afraid to put anything up your nose. But I'm nothing like Tony Montana... lol.
Judging from my personal experience... He won't die from it or anything. I must say that I LOVE it though... I haven't done it in about 8 or 9 months, but it's a very good feeling if you're not afraid to put anything up your nose. But I'm nothing like Tony Montana... lol.
Yeah, it IS a good feeling... for about 20 minutes, until you come down and feel worse off than you began, plus you're down whatever amount you paid for it, and most likely half of what went up your nose is baking soda or shit like that.While what you say may be true... you gotta know where to get it. I just happen to know the right people and can get my hands on some really good stuff. But that's beside the point.
And yeah, you can die, especially in combination with other drugs that might amp you up, if your heart explodes.
Im ayeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boyyyeeeeeeeedangerousdrug
Cocaine will fuck you up!Hell yeah! I love that shit! Haha...
I haven't been here in a while and spotted this and thought i would share some experiences.
Drug background:
-weed, A LOT
-LSD
-Ketamine
-DXM
-benedryl/gravol (i forget the chemical names :/)
-Shrooms
-Ecstacy/Pure MDMA
-Alcohol
-Oxycodone
-Salvia
-Nitrous Oxide
-Dexedrine
-Ritalin
man now my desire to try salvia has been increased tenfold
Wow Synu that is probably not good for you.
Ketamine:
Another type of hallucinogen, but neither psychedelic nor deleriant, ketamine is a disassociative, which basically disassociates the mental self from the physical self. Basically its like being drunk + tripping out. Very fun, although it is physically addictive and isnt a very long lasting drug. luckicly 15$ will get me a vial which will last about a night for me (if my tolerance is minimal, another thing i dont like about it is that your tolerance builds waaayy too fast. for me, my dosage will significantly increase throughout the night, like say one bump at the beginning will put me in a k-hole, while at the end of the night i require like 2-3 bumps to get a nice high off of it) also it has terrible drips. otherwise very fun for every once in a while. Plus side to k is that there is no hangover/bad comedown.
Nitrous Oxide:
pretty fun, numbs me up makes me laugh my ass of at nothing and trip out. Waayy to short though, last about 5-10 minutes for me. luckily i work in a grocery store and can easily steal whipped cream aerosol cans...so i get this for free :)
http://erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine.shtml
i guess they are either lucky, or strong-willed. i've had cravings before and i know several people addicted to the stuff, its not the same kind of physical addiction as coke or heroin, but it does have one. (also apparently it is also a psychedelic...i didn't know that)
no its not, i know people which rinse g's of the stuff every weekend, they dont become dependant on it at all..
lucky mother
and here, in the UK we have rolling tobacco, which we use in our joints. alot nicer than 'cigarette' or 'pipe' tobacco those are just rank.
if you really wana get cained without the cancer, use a vaporiser, costs like £10 from www.everyonedoesit.com
oh, and dont try the 'legal highs' they have on there, they are bollocks. (£4 for an oz??)
i have taken lsd less than 30 times i my life, and i now see permatracers. long time drug users will say different, but i know a lot of longtime users and the harder drugs will DEFINITELY mess you up down the line. ive known some ppl whove taken LOTS of acid, and their personalities have changed. and i know people who USED to take heroin, and to me its like theyre STILL on it!
i also heard LSD stays in your system, and if you have a spinal tap run on you they can tell if youve ever taken it. dont know if its true, but im seeing tracers from a few hits i took several years ago, i so know it definitely has a lasting effect.
ive never tried huffing or nitrous oxide because of the mad amount of brain cells its killing, and salvia ive tried but it didnt do anything for me? it made me feel a littel fuzzy but thats about it, my friend who i tried it with was giggling his ass of so maybe its a per person thing
I was given some weird small light blue pills the other day by some weird man. They are about 0.5 cm in diameter and 0.3 cm thick. No inscription or anything on them. My friend suggested it could be 'diazepam' or something like that. What do you think that it could be?suicide pills.
I was given some weird small light blue pills the other day by some weird man. They are about 0.5 cm in diameter and 0.3 cm thick. No inscription or anything on them. My friend suggested it could be 'diazepam' or something like that. What do you think that it could be?
As an official representative of GamingWorld who understands that the site is liable for everything therein, My firm opinion is that you should take those pills.
i feel like you only made this post because jester made a similar one recently
And dude DON'T TAKE THOSE PILLS, seriously. It could be ANYTHING.
Well I thought what the hell and popped them all as I was getting drunk. They made me feel slightly weird in a way difficult to describe, lol.
Well I thought what the hell and popped them all as I was getting drunk. They made me feel slightly weird in a way difficult to describe, lol.
Well I thought what the hell and popped them all as I was getting drunk. They made me feel slightly weird in a way difficult to describe, lol.
Closest I got to a drug was smoking a cigarette. It burned my throat and lungs and I was coughing for about two minutes. I know most people say it isn't as bad when you get use to it, but who would be dumb enough in the first place to TRY and get used to it?me. (it doesn't take long to get used to it by the way)
this is completely false, in fact lsd leaves your system a lot faster than most drugs, what you have is called hppd, hallucinogen persisting perception disorder. its a psychological disorder caused by hallucinogenic drug usage. it is actually temporary, but how long it lasts varies per person, and i believe for it to go away all drug use must be stopped: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder
Has anyone bought any of the 'legal highs' or 'herbal highs' you can get off sites like http://www.everyonedoesit.com?I used to get given some every week or so. The ones that I smoked didn't really do much for me except for a couple which made me feel slightly relaxed for a couple of minutes, but that could've been a placebo effect so I'm not at all sure.
Are they any good?
I've never touched any alchohol, or drugs or anything. It's half because of religious beliefs and half my own personal belief that drugs mess with how you think. And that's just iffy for me.
I have never tried drugs. Some people I know do them (and quite a bit) but I'm a little to vain to put my body in any kind of danger that it didn't have to be in.There are vanity drugs related to certain subcultures.
Ok so I did magic mushrooms twice, and it's really pretty fucking awesome.
The second time I had sort of an euphoric feeling with just the normal dose, I'm wondering (as a question to the experience shroom users) what does a higher dosis exactly do in terms of things you see, for example: whenever I close my eyes doing shrooms I see patterns and always start asking questions about everything I see, especially about myself, both my trips were "a journey into my subconcious" (it's really difficult for me to explain, but I felt as if I'm actually two people, me (my conscious) and my subconscious who 'lended my a hand' into his world), but I've never visited egyptian temples or saw two objects morph into eachother.
Also, what are cool things to do while on shrooms?
All I've done was lie in my room with a friend listening to Goa trance (which was fucking awesome anyway).
This weekend I'm doing it again with 4 friends, any suggestions?
Also, what about thea? I've only eaten through chocolate, never the shrooms itself, so I was wondering if I'd put it in thea, will the effect not be as strong or be longer but milder or something?
Thanks in advance!
PS: I'm undergoing a serious change in my life, social aspects, skillwise, and a hunger for information, I have definately changed a lot, and those shrooms have helped a little bit to not keep my head only on the scientific side of life, but also on the more spiritual side.
Higher doses will lead to more profound effects, but not necessarily new ones. The term psychedelic means just what you could probably tell my looking at it--that is, MIND MANIFESTING. Each trip varies extremely depending on the individual. Rarely do full-blown hallucinations occur on mushrooms. Try going for a walk, listening to music you wouldn't normally listen to, paint, draw, et cetera. What is thea?
Oh how embarrassing, I meant tea.
Alright, thanks.
I've also found that I can't really control what I see by focusing a lot on it (I friend recommended doing that, because he said he could vaguely control), but I do really feel that the atmosphere of a certain song really does have a big impact, for example if I'd put on Massive Attack's Teardrop, usually I'd feel quite relaxed and a little bit happy, whereas when I played it during my second trip I had a great feeling which I can't really describe (which leads me to another question: do you guys actually try and explain your trip to other people? And if so, do you usually succeed, even if it's kinda vaguely? Because I have a really hard time doing that).
I'm contemplating taking lsd, but I'm not sure on how I will react. Of course, nobody here will know how I will react either and my best chance to find out is to actually do it, but I just don't know if I'm mentally stable enough to handle something like that for that amount of time. Of course, I've taken brownies before which lasted for about 8 hours and that was weird. Although I'm sure lsd gets you higher than any brownies will. But. I just don't know. Something just bothers me a lot and I've become apathetic because of it. Day in and out it eats away at me and I just come to the same conclusion everyday - don't bother. One of my friends who's taken lsd, doc and shrooms said that he's had things he's had problems with and has come to terms with it on acid. My main concern is that I'll be thinking about this event while I'm on acid and it will upset me and cause me to have a bad trip for hours on end and I don't want that to happen. I did a little experiment to see if I could feel anything from what's bothering me and I did think about it enough and decided to let go of bottling it in for about a few minutes before I just turned apathetic again. Which is weird in itself, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Just sometimes I wake up and feel depressed and later in the day I'm ok, and this last for a few days. I haven't noticed this in a few months, and it just started happening today so more than likely it won't happen again now that I'm conscious of it, especially since I'm less vulnerable to depression when I'm active and I've been stuck at my house the last couple of days. anyway. I'm just not sure if I should take it or not. I definitely want to take lsd and play guitar to see how that is, but if I were to think about the event that's bothering me when I'm playing guitar (since it's a sort of fucked up inspiration) I just don't know if it would make me see horrible shit. But, if I'm already apathetic of it, would lsd bring it out? or what? I dunno. Give me some words here.
I'm contemplating taking lsd, but I'm not sure on how I will react. Of course, nobody here will know how I will react either and my best chance to find out is to actually do it, but I just don't know if I'm mentally stable enough to handle something like that for that amount of time. Of course, I've taken brownies before which lasted for about 8 hours and that was weird. Although I'm sure lsd gets you higher than any brownies will. But. I just don't know. Something just bothers me a lot and I've become apathetic because of it. Day in and out it eats away at me and I just come to the same conclusion everyday - don't bother. One of my friends who's taken lsd, doc and shrooms said that he's had things he's had problems with and has come to terms with it on acid. My main concern is that I'll be thinking about this event while I'm on acid and it will upset me and cause me to have a bad trip for hours on end and I don't want that to happen. I did a little experiment to see if I could feel anything from what's bothering me and I did think about it enough and decided to let go of bottling it in for about a few minutes before I just turned apathetic again. Which is weird in itself, but who knows, maybe I'm crazy. Just sometimes I wake up and feel depressed and later in the day I'm ok, and this last for a few days. I haven't noticed this in a few months, and it just started happening today so more than likely it won't happen again now that I'm conscious of it, especially since I'm less vulnerable to depression when I'm active and I've been stuck at my house the last couple of days. anyway. I'm just not sure if I should take it or not. I definitely want to take lsd and play guitar to see how that is, but if I were to think about the event that's bothering me when I'm playing guitar (since it's a sort of fucked up inspiration) I just don't know if it would make me see horrible shit. But, if I'm already apathetic of it, would lsd bring it out? or what? I dunno. Give me some words here.
Are you afraid you will be thrown into jail when the drug police reads this topic?
no, because they don't go after the users, they go after the suppliers.
Even so, I have never smoked a cigarette, or had Alcohol. GO FIGURE!
holy shit.
whats the best way to smoke weed in your opinion. for me its personally been a pipe, but main preference is a joint. the only problem for me is that I need 20% more weed to make a joint rather than have a bowl in a pipe to share amongst friends.
the best thing about vaporizors is you can get ripped off chronic then sell the leftovers to junior high kidshell sell them oregano or catnip
Has anyone tried MG seeds and are they worth it?I have. I was sick for four hours and then I felt kinda weird (not in a good way) for like 5 hours. It was not pleasant at all.
I heard that with a vaporizer you can avoid all the nasty stuff that fucks up your lungs when normally smoking weed. y/n?
I have. I was sick for four hours and then I felt kinda weird (not in a good way) for like 5 hours. It was not pleasant at all.
I heard that with a vaporizer you can avoid all the nasty stuff that fucks up your lungs when normally smoking weed. y/n?
did you treat them or whatever first because plain morning glory seeds just make you feel like shit
some friends and i are doing salvia in a couple of days or something. we have environment and etc. planned out and we are going over GROUND RULES for atmosphere. i have done salvia (a tincture) before but never smoked and there are some ISSUES that must be addressed/questions asked:
1 - how do we smoke it? is it just like pot or tobacco or something in a pipe or is there some crazy blending and hardware required or what?
2 - one of said friends cannot smoke (asthma or something) so he is going to be taking leaves. how would this be done (i.e. how many leaves, would he have to CHEW THEM or what, etc.)?
also in regards to hardware: what would be best? what kind of lighter, pipe, whatever? none of us have anything so really we are open to buying shit so long as it is more or less affordable.
When using salvia, what is your state of mind like? Are you able to fight the effects to a degree? Or is it like you're forced to sit and watch whatever the drug induces?
When using salvia, what is your state of mind like? Are you able to fight the effects to a degree? Or is it like you're forced to sit and watch whatever the drug induces?
GB - Couple questions. What would you say is the best psychological/trippy/hallucinogenic kind of drug that has had the least bad trips for you? I'm really interested in the trip thing, not getting OMG WASTED or losing control of myself completely but having a crazy and possibly enlightening experience sounds good to me. Is Salvia more of a hallucinogen/psyche drug or more akin to weed?First: Bad trips. do. not. happen. I have never actually met someone that wasnt a total fucktard that has ever had a bad trip on anything except like Belladonna. They are pretty much something made up by your neighborhood D.A.R.E. officer to scare little kiddies into not doing drojas. Second, the best drug is Mescaline.
How long did it take you with weed to get to a stage where you could function totally normally while on weed? I don't love the stuff, but I smoke it every now and then. I like having a blunt and making a beat or writing a song, or watching a movie for example. But I see some people I know and they come over to mine to record, and they can have a few joints beforehand and still sound totally normal, perhaps even better. Everytime I smoke it it's much like being very drunk to me, i'm definitely not acting in the right frame of mind for doing every day things. Is that the case of smoking too much when I do (I usually have quite a bit when I actually do it) or just not doing it regularly enough? I doubt i'd ever get totally into it, but it's something that i've wondered for a while.
Bad trips do happen. I've had a few bad trips on mushrooms, and once on weed.I dont even understand how you could have a bad trip. I mean like yeah if you had something really traumatic happen to you in the week before your trip, or you were in a bad setting, or you listened to some frightening music that you could begin to experience some negative things... but thats why you take steps to avoid that shit. Don't be a retard, plan your trips out in advance to make sure that everything is perfect, and if you aren't completely stable DO NOT TRIP.
GB - Couple questions. What would you say is the best psychological/trippy/hallucinogenic kind of drug that has had the least bad trips for you? I'm really interested in the trip thing, not getting OMG WASTED or losing control of myself completely but having a crazy and possibly enlightening experience sounds good to me. Is Salvia more of a hallucinogen/psyche drug or more akin to weed?
How long did it take you with weed to get to a stage where you could function totally normally while on weed? I don't love the stuff, but I smoke it every now and then. I like having a blunt and making a beat or writing a song, or watching a movie for example. But I see some people I know and they come over to mine to record, and they can have a few joints beforehand and still sound totally normal, perhaps even better. Everytime I smoke it it's much like being very drunk to me, i'm definitely not acting in the right frame of mind for doing every day things. Is that the case of smoking too much when I do (I usually have quite a bit when I actually do it) or just not doing it regularly enough? I doubt i'd ever get totally into it, but it's something that i've wondered for a while.
I dont even understand how you could have a bad trip. I mean like yeah if you had something really traumatic happen to you in the week before your trip, or you were in a bad setting, or you listened to some frightening music that you could begin to experience some negative things... but thats why you take steps to avoid that shit. Don't be a retard, plan your trips out in advance to make sure that everything is perfect, and if you aren't completely stable DO NOT TRIP.
but then again I have learned a lot about tripping from mescaline being my psychedelic of choice, so I can control my trips with other drugs with extreme ease. Nothing ever goes wrong for me.
The mind is a complex thing, and there is hardly such a thing as complete stability. There may be parts of your personality you were unaware of, or perspectives you have never really thought from that come up during your trip. It's not 'being retarded' or not planning your trip, these were completely unexpected and next to unpredictable things that occurred. Just because you haven't had a bad trip, doesn't mean they don't exist and other people can't have them.I'm not just speaking from my own experience. I know lots of other people that trip far more regularly than I do (otherwise I wouldnt have access to my drojas), and the only ones I've met that have had bad trips are the ones that are complete fucktards that are like "DUDE ACID OH MY GOD I SAW LITTLE GNOMES DANCING AROUND TRYING TO SELL ME SWEATER VESTS DUDE IT WAS SO SWEEEETTTT!" yeah, no. I'm sure bad trips happen to people when the situation is right, but thats when they lose their respect for the drug and do something stupid like ride in a car on the highway or watch Apocalypse Now or something. If you respect the drug and let it run its course, and you have a responsible sitter you will not have any issues.
First: Bad trips. do. not. happen.i disagree. i have never had a bad trip but i have seen other seasoned psychonauts fall into them. an ego shattering dose of mushrooms may not be "bad" to say the least but can totally put you on your ass cowering in a corner. noone wants to have their sense of self totally obliterated unless they are ready for it. i have seem shrooms kick peoples ass. that 4 hour introspective nightmare thompson spoke of is definately a possibility
the best drug is Mescaline.
Cacti (peruvian torch, san pedro) : my alltime favorite. wow. all i can say is its a body trip greater than that of E, and a mind trip powerful enough for it to be mother natures answer to LSD. its also the easiest for me to obtain as its just an order form away, is legal, and i can buy enough to last a long time for less than 100$. its purgative, you will probably throw up, but this is desired. i love cacti. its amazing. i am trying to get out to the desert this winter for a cacti trip. the empathy created from such an experience is strong. its almost a psychic enhancer. the inner vision, and other psychic faculties are greatly enhanced. this stuff is truly medicine. i stand in awe of its power to heal and enlighten.I know several people who have this same problem, but I have to say I've never had this issue, and I've done both peruvian torch and san pedro, both by just eating the cactus and by extraction/liquification, and I've never thrown up. Though eating san pedro straight was probably the most awful experience of my entire life. Seriously it was horrible... but I kept it down. I must just have stomach lining made of titanium.
Though I am probably gonna get flamed for this... Oh well XD
Only drug I have done and continue to do is caffeine. I am naturally hyper vigilant(look it up) and caffeine makes me even more hyper vigilant than normal. So basically caffeine makes all my senses and reflexes better than normal, but for some reason makes it so I can feel my own pulse even when I am not touching anything and of course I tremble aswell. The more caffeine I have at once the stronger the effect.
After the effects wear off, its usually followed by a feeling of being fatigued and sore. The more caffeine I had the worse the after effects become and for longer. It is possible to overdose to various degrees which I have done before. I once consumed apox 1.3 grams of caffeine within a single drink(multiple caffeine pills mixed in). The effects were pretty bad for me. All my sense were like extremely sensitive, My body fell like it was throbbing so hard/fast it hurt even when I was doing nothing, and I constantly felt like I was gonna hurl. The after effects was basically me curled up in a ball on my bed sweating for no reason for like 20 hours moaning in pain. I stupidly thought the effects would be limited, and would simply last longer... BIIIIG mistake that I will hopefully never repeat.
Why do I use caffeine? Because if used with good timing(and moderation) can make it easier to take tests or participate in short competitions. It gives me a nice edge when needed, even if the later effects are not quite as appealing. They provide a good check for not using caffeine too often as it really does stress my body to extents it should not be.
I typically try to keep my caffeine consumption within the 100~250mg every few days. Caffeine's "good" effects last for 3-5 hours on me, where the bad effects last 8-24 hours. This being the case I carefully choose when I consume caffeine so it doesn't end up screwing me over.
I dont even understand how you could have a bad trip. I mean like yeah if you had something really traumatic happen to you in the week before your trip, or you were in a bad setting, or you listened to some frightening music that you could begin to experience some negative things... but thats why you take steps to avoid that shit. Don't be a retard, plan your trips out in advance to make sure that everything is perfect, and if you aren't completely stable DO NOT TRIP.
but then again I have learned a lot about tripping from mescaline being my psychedelic of choice, so I can control my trips with other drugs with extreme ease. Nothing ever goes wrong for me.
You apparently haven't read the Erowid vaults. One account involved three friends on LSD who went to see THE RING and got genuinely freaked out, went back home, and one of them got paranoid and ended up killing his friend by smashing his head with a lamp. Some people don't understand that a psychedelic trip puts you in a very sensitive state.you also missed all my points about dumbfuck people that have no respect for the drugs that they are taking. And also if one were to completely dissociate from reality on LSD one should not ever be allowed to do drugs again. ever.
I actually did acid for the second time on Thursday, and it was pretty cool. As with most drugs, the comedown makes me feel like shit, but I was fully recovered by the next evening.
also, i am going to get cough syrup with DXM. i live in the uk, though, and i went down to the supermarket where they didn't have anything suitable. i'll try the chemist, tommorrow. also, at this point i want to ask: ought i to have people with me, and how long does it last?
Also avoid large amounts of guafesin as it may cause you to vomit.
No, but something i found out last night was that when my lungs are full of shisha smoke (mango... delicious) I sound exactly like Andre the Giant AKA Fezzik from Princess Bride. I spent all night saying "Anybody wanna peanut?"man, I am so excited, I turn 18 tomorrow, so provided I'm over this cold by the weekend I'm going to actually get to go to a nice hookah bar this weekend
so you knew, or at least had a feeling, that what you were about to type was a steaming pile of shit?
then
w-why?
I know several people who have this same problem, but I have to say I've never had this issue, and I've done both peruvian torch and san pedro, both by just eating the cactus and by extraction/liquification, and I've never thrown up. Though eating san pedro straight was probably the most awful experience of my entire life. Seriously it was horrible... but I kept it down. I must just have stomach lining made of titanium.
man, I am so excited, I turn 18 tomorrow, so provided I'm over this cold by the weekend I'm going to actually get to go to a nice hookah bar this weekend
(there are like 6 or 7 around town, and only one doesn't card upon entry and that place sucks cause a bunch of people from my school go there and its really dirty and loud in there, but the nicer ones are like nice quiet cafe's with like private rooms and stuff (there is a large somali population in columbus and BIG SUPRISE they all LOVE shisha))
dont do DXM. please. take it from me, its best to just leave it alone. there are better legal substances out there.
i usually do alcohol extract. the first 3 trips were mild doses, about 50 dry grams of peruvian torch dried green flesh (under the waxy layer).I've never tried actually like extracting the chemicals from the cactus, I just cut it up and blend the cactus spines and all in a blender with 1 part cactus to 1 part water, and then bring it to a boil in a soup kettle and then let it simmer and evaporate off as much of the water as possible, and then strain it through a clean white tshirt or something (NOT CHEESECLOTH DO NOT USE CHEESECLOTH) and then drink the resulting brew. I usually do a test run of it as soon as I've made it while its still warm, just to see how potent it was, and last time I did that, 4 fl oz of liquid gave me as nice a trip as my very first experience with the drug, so I decided to drink like 12 fl oz one night. I would imagine the dosage was upwards of 700mgs which is pretty nuts. That was the trip where I actually had open eye visuals and visual hallucinations on mescaline. It was about as intense as that drug can be, or as intense as I ever want it to be anyway.
i didn't throw up from any of the light doses. the time i did an extract from 100 dry grams i got sick and about an hour and a half into it, i threw up, but it felt like the right thing to do at the time, so i didn't supress the urge. i was sweating a LOT too so it was like my body was ridding itself of toxins in more ways than one. despite throwing up it was a beautiful experience. i felt a strong sense of peace and well being for the next month or so after the experience.
I've never tried actually like extracting the chemicals from the cactus, I just cut it up and blend the cactus spines and all in a blender with 1 part cactus to 1 part water, and then bring it to a boil in a soup kettle and then let it simmer and evaporate off as much of the water as possible, and then strain it through a clean white tshirt or something (NOT CHEESECLOTH DO NOT USE CHEESECLOTH) and then drink the resulting brew. I usually do a test run of it as soon as I've made it while its still warm, just to see how potent it was, and last time I did that, 4 fl oz of liquid gave me as nice a trip as my very first experience with the drug, so I decided to drink like 12 fl oz one night. I would imagine the dosage was upwards of 700mgs which is pretty nuts. That was the trip where I actually had open eye visuals and visual hallucinations on mescaline. It was about as intense as that drug can be, or as intense as I ever want it to be anyway.hah your more of a man than i am, drinking cactus juice like that. for my stomach thats a definate no no :blarg:
Guys, I've never experimented with any cacti because there is no apparent way to obtain them from where I live. But, anyways, what does it taste like?you cant use ebay? (this is my method of choice honestly, because it is way cheaper to buy cuttings from people on ebay than to buy a live peruvian torch or san pedro from a nursery (because they have pretty flowers and are legal nationwide, lots of places carry them) even with shipping and handling ebay gives you more bang for your buck)
Where in the good lords name do you get all these drugs?
Pot is the only one I can find reliably, although maybe cause I'm in the great southern land.
Sounds like you took a monster hit. Gonna do about 100mg so won't fuck shit up. Also it used to be for humans but they stopped since people were reporting meetings with God etc (other psychedellic/mystic experiences) after being on it (in surgery etc).
But yeah, it sounds like you guys took a lot more than I'm gonna do.
Well, I'm finally considering trying Mushrooms. To be honest weed is fine, but I really want to try something a bit different. I'm really confused so UK GWers, and non-UK GWers who are knowledgable, HAS the law been changed regarding un-prepared mushrooms? A shop nearby was shut down for selling them, but I am getting conflicting news regarding the legality of them nowadays.
Thanks folks.
Shit do shrooms anyways even if they're illegal in the UK now. They're the best. You never get sick, and they don't show up on urine screens as far as I know. I advise you to do them on a day where you don't have to work the next day though. It's not like weed at all, in that you might wake up still feeling pretty :fogetbackflip:. Although, I WILL say that the first time I did them, I played Halo 2 all through the night like it was my god, didn't sleep all the way through the next day, and went to work while kinda still feeling it. And DIDN'T get questioned. Shrooms are AWESOME though. Do them.
Your back might feel like shit for a few days afterwards though. Mine did. All the toxins go straight to your spine.
Although, I WILL say that the first time I did them, I played Halo 2 all through the night like it was my god
Ugh, that sounds like such a waste of a trip.
you will eat one, shit and puke your brains out, and die a slow painful death of toxic liver failure. :blarg:Fuck you. Stop spreading false information. I know people who have eaten 4 of them along with like 2 grams of psilocybin shrooms and only had a hefty trip with no bad side-effects. If the amanitas has a red cap, it won't kill you to eat ONE like you said. Shit, the other forum I visit would ban you for that post. And it doesn't belong in this topic either.
they were prolly trying to go into a k-hole. dissociatives are fun, but at high doses they become anesthetics which isnt good for maintaining bodily function (heart, breathing ect).
Fuck you. Stop spreading false information. I know people who have eaten 4 of them along with like 2 grams of psilocybin shrooms and only had a hefty trip with no bad side-effects. If the amanitas has a red cap, it won't kill you to eat ONE like you said. Shit, the other forum I visit would ban you for that post. And it doesn't belong in this topic either.:fogetnah: man you must be out of your mind. did i say AMANITA MUSCARIA? no i said AMANITAS. that is an extremely deadly family of mushrooms which people who plan on mushroom hunting must be aware of. you must not know anything at all about mycology otherwise youd be well aware that for the aspiring hunter this family is a DEFINATE No no.
Ok got a question, can you get high/consume horse shrooms?
I was discussing this with my friend and he said they would be too acidic or something and would make me sick but it would be cool as fuck if its possible.
:fogetnah: man you must be out of your mind. did i say AMANITA MUSCARIA? no i said AMANITAS. that is an extremely deadly family of mushrooms which people who plan on mushroom hunting must be aware of. you must not know anything at all about mycology otherwise youd be well aware that for the aspiring hunter this family is a DEFINATE No no.Well ok, it would be natural to assume you were talking about amanita muscaria since this is a DRUG TOPIC. With that same logic, I could come in here and tell you that ACID BURNS YOUR THROAT AND LEADS TO HORRIBLE DEATH and when people counter that lsd doesn't actually kill by itself I'd say "Ya I was talking about all OTHER forms for acid, not LSD. Nitric acid etc..."
Ok I was looking it up and after reading this: http://shroomwizard.com/GGreat.html
I looked around in our horse pasture and saw some that looked alot like this http://shroomwizard.com/graphics/Bradenton/Neil%206.jpg
They were white and had a gold/brown sort of nipple at the top, the article also said that a sure fire way to tell that they were shrooms was that the stem would bruise blue after like 30 seconds. I pinched the stem but it didn't really turn blue so what now?
nvm the article says they HAVE to turn blue, so I guess I'll give it another go and post what I find in a while.
Well ok, it would be natural to assume you were talking about amanita muscaria since this is a DRUG TOPIC. With that same logic, I could come in here and tell you that ACID BURNS YOUR THROAT AND LEADS TO HORRIBLE DEATH and when people counter that lsd doesn't actually kill by itself I'd say "Ya I was talking about all OTHER forms for acid, not LSD. Nitric acid etc..."
I'm not sure if you were trying to be funny or whatever, but yeah, I see the amanita family is dangerous but in a topic about drugs I naturally assume you mean amanita muscaria since that is the incredibly famous (hello Super Mario) mushroom in the amanita family that is actually widespreadly used as a DRUG.
If you are by yourself and you just want to get straight fucked then the best way is to use a vaporizer.
Protip: practice with tobacco. Not only can you buy a pack of Bugler for like $1.75, but then when you get the hang of it you've got some cheap yet delicious cigarettes too.
Question about DXM, I bought a bottle of cough syrup from CVS a few days ago and I'm planning on using it this saturday. There's about 354mg of DXM in there (15mg per 5ml times 118ml bottle). I'm about 150 lbs and I'm planning on drinking all of it. I know the experience differs for each person but what should I expect? And since its my first time with DXM should I get a trip sitter? Also, I hear the effects stay for 8 hours is this true?
354 mg is usually above the threshold for second plateau experiences, so you will probably have medium strength closed-eye visuals and strong feelings of intense introspection. From personal experience, I would say that DXM lasts for about 3-6 hours starting 30mins-2hrs after consumption. There is also an afterglow which can last 8-24 hours.
WARNINGS /!\
- some people (read: <1%) have a genetic inability to process dextromethorphan. If you are one of these people then using dxm recreationally can lead to intense allergy-like symptoms and possible death. A good way to test your ability to metabolize dxm is to take a dose of about 50-70 mg the day before.
- Be ABSOLUTELY SURE that there is no acetominophen or any antihistamines in the cough syrup. If there is it will usually say so on the label, but sometimes it is also listed as "APAP" so watch out! The only active ingredients should be Dextromethorphan and Guiafenesin. If you take dxm with APAP you will probably die.
Have fun.
354 mg is usually above the threshold for second plateau experiences, so you will probably have medium strength closed-eye visuals and strong feelings of intense introspection. From personal experience, I would say that DXM lasts for about 3-6 hours starting 30mins-2hrs after consumption. There is also an afterglow which can last 8-24 hours.do you actually use that system to describe trips or like as a descriptor for what you are trying to achieve
do you actually use that system to describe trips or like as a descriptor for what you are trying to achieve
or do you use it as an objective reference point for your own experiences
because if its the former... gtfo
It's just a general term used to indicate a noticeable difference in either intensity or effects.I was under the impression that that whole tiered plateau system was a really pretentious and dumb way of categorizing different psychedelic drug experiences that only really dumb people buy into.
I was under the impression that that whole tiered plateau system was a really pretentious and dumb way of categorizing different psychedelic drug experiences that only really dumb people buy into.The people I know that are deep into psychedellics use the plateau system a lot. I've never bothered learning what the differences are, but it's not just some dumb way of categorizing the experiences imo.
am I mistakened?
well this one time I heard two psychonauts talking about it]
and they were having an indepth discussion which shifts between plateaus were their favorite. So I just assumed it was extremely pretentious
So is there a correlation between being a member of GW and becoming a huge druggie or whatI'd say quite the contrary, there haven't really been a lot of discussions of it until recently, far less than you'd expect on a forum with 10'000 members anyhow (imo).
So is there a correlation between being a member of GW and becoming a huge druggie or what
Also Omacatl stop telling people to not do dissociatives. :(I would recommend against doing them as well but I've already made my point pretty clear on that one. Europe != America
Ketamine is a pretty accepted party drug in Europe.
editL for future reference...what kind of music should I listen to? I've been listening to what i like: Yes, Floyd, Mars Volta, anything that sounds somewhat physcodelic.
DXM is used for controlling cough so yes. Its usually mixed with a lot of other stuff which will either make you thow up or cause you to die. Make sure you get cough syrup that doesn't have anything other than DXM (if you must though....its okay if it has Guiafenesin though cause that just makes you throw up).For dissociatives, minimalistic techno is usually considered the best tripping music. For psychedellics, obviously psychedellic music 8) I'd recommend Shpongle, a very psychedellic ambient group. Their music is pretty incredible, and terming it ambient psytrance or whatever just doesn't do them justice. I bet there's some up in the zoo.
editL for future reference...what kind of music should I listen to? I've been listening to what i like: Yes, Floyd, Mars Volta, anything that sounds somewhat physcodelic.
Ok guys... drug related question RIGHT HERE. I bought a few grams of weed once to share with a few buddies... and I don't know if it was just really stong or what. But I'm wondering if it was laced?? Anyways after I smoked it I got MAJOR paranoia like I was flipping out.. my legs werre shaking and I could barely walk on them... also i felt like EVERYONE in a car or not was looking at me or whispering to someone while looking at me. Do you think it was laced? If so with that?
Hahah, well I was the only one who got that trip. But it wasn't close to my frist time. I had smoked weed for ahile before this one. I don't know. Anyways I was wondering, a buddy and I are wanting to try lsd and shrooms. In your oppinion which would be safer to take first? I always worry about taking hallucinagens cause I'm scared I'm going to get a bad trip and do something dumb or hurt myself :-/
I know you can't necesarily compare the two.. and I've done some research into both of them. In saying all this I want to try both but I also succeed in scarring myself when I read all the stuff lol.
Ok guys... drug related question RIGHT HERE. I bought a few grams of weed once to share with a few buddies... and I don't know if it was just really stong or what. But I'm wondering if it was laced?? Anyways after I smoked it I got MAJOR paranoia like I was flipping out.. my legs werre shaking and I could barely walk on them... also i felt like EVERYONE in a car or not was looking at me or whispering to someone while looking at me. Do you think it was laced? If so with that?
I would recommend against doing them as well but I've already made my point pretty clear on that one. Europe != Americai probably missed that. what was your point on not taking them?
Probably Royksopp if you want something uplifting and stuffoooh can someone upload?
And Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II if you wanted to die of a heart attack or something
You also need to know if all of your friends had similar experiences or just you. Weed can cause anxiety and thus paranoia in some people, especially someone who isn't used to its affects or when taking a much stronger dose than normal. This could easily include a racing heart, trembling, and rapid and disorganized thinking.man, see if I know the weed I have is really really good and this doesnt happen to me like right after I'm done smoking (especially the racing heart and rapid disorganized thought) I feel like I got ripped off
I don't really get that anymore (too much smoking; it just feels normal) but it does happen if I smoke a cigarette directly afterwards. Actually, I think one of my favorite things in the whole world right now is a cigarette after a bowl of dank headies. I get stoned as hell for like 10 minutes and then it's just chill city.well I dont get ahold of good shit very often so yeah. mostly nasty middies that just make me so tired afterwards... It has been a long time since I had a really good clearheaded funky high.. its been all really opiate-like indica chillout and passout highs for me lately :(
Also, I use "happy camper" in regular conversation, so I was glad to see it posted, lol.
well I dont get ahold of good shit very often so yeah. mostly nasty middies that just make me so tired afterwards... It has been a long time since I had a really good clearheaded funky high.. its been all really opiate-like indica chillout and passout highs for me lately :(
lol, noice! Yeah, I'm starting to smoke more but I want to try shrooms... normal dose for a person is like 2 grams is it not?
And I'm rather surprised at how quick you get answers on this forum.
oh that's agood point, but I'm probably just gonna stick with DXM cough syrup for now as there's a CVS 15 minutes off campus. I'm interested in shrooms and LSD though but idk where to find that.
well I dont get ahold of good shit very often so yeah. mostly nasty middies that just make me so tired afterwards... It has been a long time since I had a really good clearheaded funky high.. its been all really opiate-like indica chillout and passout highs for me lately :(MDMA isnt a dissociative, its an empathogen/entactogen or a psychedelic amphetamine. it makes you feel more ' in your body' than dissociated if you know what i mean. yes e pills are notoriously dirty- filled with speed, procaine, phentayl, sudophedrine and all sorts of garbage besides MDMA. thats why if i do roll, which is rare, ill secure some of this
but yeah BravoSector, dissociatives are not safe to take here because you never know what you're getting. You could buy E from somebody that would be a blend of PCP, Crack Cocaine and something else equally as ridiculous that when in a cocktail like that could really fuck you hard. And cough syrup is nasty as fuck. So yeah I stay away from that stuff.
Yeah, i just found it odd because all the times I smoked weed I nevere got the feeling. Now when i get it it feels pretty rad. As for that cough syrup stuff... the DMT or whatever it's called anyone know a good brand of cough syrup or gel tablets containing the right shit that works??
Yeah, i just found it odd because all the times I smoked weed I nevere got the feeling. Now when i get it it feels pretty rad. As for that cough syrup stuff... the DMT or whatever it's called anyone know a good brand of cough syrup or gel tablets containing the right shit that works??
I may ask a mod to lock this topic unless the posts become less worrisome and/or let it slowly fade off the first page...
It's not a source of ... uhmm a word which escapes me right now...EDUCATION on drugs. I'd just rather ask some of these questions over a thread then to someone who will think I'm a crack job. Plus I've read a bunch of stuff i've never heard of before on here.. like the DXT OR d whatever.... The drug topic in its entirety interrestes me :)
hahah, nicely stoned.. the dialect is great. ok well I guess what I want to know is if it's possible to just boil some water and drop the bud I have currently into the water and stir it around a little... or would I have to grind it down very very fine??
I don't get that explanation of bhang at ALL. Plus I'm too lazy to go through that much work :-/. Any better suggestions?bhang is not that hard to make its just a bit labor intensive. your basically just pounding bud into milk to extract the thc in fat. you need something with fat in it to absorb the THC so you can get high from eating it, see?
See, I never knew you could get DXM over the counter. Anyone know of any other over the counter stuff?Salvia seems to be a good over-the-counter psychedellic drug in the States, if that's where you're from. I've never used it though, so don't take my word for it, but according to some it's pretty much one of the wildest trips they can get, and according to others it's lamer than weed, so I guess it depends a lot.
See, I never knew you could get DXM over the counter. Anyone know of any other over the counter stuff? I'm not too knowledgeable on anything beyond illicit substances.
I'd try DXM, but the huge amount of prep time just doesn't seem worth it to me.
I'd try DXM, but the huge amount of prep time just doesn't seem worth it to me.There is no prep time unless you count going to the pharmacy and back.
i tried DMT last weekend...
i was on lsd at the time (it was very minty), i smoked some DMT and it rushed like 1/2 a mile towards me, hit me, and sent my head off into a blue and pink flourishing world, where everythin moved and danced, everyone was happy, and the sky was going purple.
then, in the evening i had a nice cup of mushrrom tea (liberty caps) and the floor rised and projects a 3d vibrantly bright coloured mushroom shaped, which spun and spread across the room.
trippin'.
DMT or DXM?Huge difference. DMT is probably the most legendary psychedellic among veteran drug users, whereas LSD often is the most legendary among non-veteran drug users. DMT is by many considered the holy grail of psychedellics.
dmt sounds interesting...is it considered better than LSD? its probably harder to get tho since its not as popular?
Hey how many of you guys like sniffing petrol, I've heard it's awesome!What the fuck's your problem?
"Black Books"
Sir, Black Books can only get better with drink and drugs! You can then associate with the main character.
Tried that already (marijuana that is), I felt some strong nasua (spelling?) and that was it.
What about Nitrous Oxide? How would one get a hold of that?
Yo, i read somewhere further up on this threat that sc-b is a good beginner psychadellic if ingested orally and taking a low doese. Is there a different name for it or something because I've enever heard of it. And would you recommend taking that before shrooms?I've taken 2c-b a total of four times; two 2c-b experiences only and two combined with ecstasy. It was also the first drug I tried harder than cannabis.
Could someone tell me more about cacti?
Like where to get it, how much they cost, what exactly happens etc?
(Also Nitrous Oxide was great fun!)
It's difficult to determine whether you are ready to experiment with drugs, but it's generally best to just consider where you're at with your life. I would say that most people are good to go as long as they aren't dealing with emotional trauma etc...
With acid, the term "hit" is just an arbitrary measure of dosage. I have heard the term "hit" used to describe amounts between 50 micrograms and 300ug. The threshold for the effects of LSD (iirc) is at about 150ug, so a good starter dose would be 200-250. My friends who are more experienced than I am with LSD generally use about 600-800ug in a session, and crazies like Ken Kesey have been documented using amounts upwards of 1.5mg.
I'm not going to say that you won't have any problems, but neither myself or anyone I know has ever gone nuts while tripping. The simplest way to keep yourself in check is to just use your better judgment. Make sure you are in a healthy mood before you dose and that you are in a comfortable, familiar environment.
LARS2c-b really does not have a lot of street names. I've never met anyone that calls it anything else than 2c-b, although www.erowid.org says it has a few street names but I dunno where those applies to (street names are really local, so one name one place might be incorrect some other place). Note that bromo-dragonfly is an entirely different drug (3c-b-x or something) and I believe it is a bit heavier than 2c-b (one guy died from shooting it not long ago in Norway, 'causing a huge lash on Research Chemicals in the press :/ )
Thanks for the info. I was wondering if the 2c-b would have a different name on the streets or a more common name or something. And also if snorting it was more intense then if I were to ingest it orally would I be taking more then a 20mg dose or are the orally ingested doses and the snorting doses the same it just takes more time to hit you if you ingest it orally?
I can't say that I understand any of this. I have been straight most of my life, only drinking alcohol on special occasions and never going overboard with it, and I'm even 100% caffeine-free. I have only one vice, that being cigarettes. I can't say I'm proud of that, nor can I say I plan to quit any time soon. I've already decided that I will quit for someone special, and as soon as she enters my life, I'll discard the rest and be completely drug-free. Though that's a strange term to use, since a lot of people don't consider nicotine a drug, but I do, and I happen to be the only one that counts. :-D
I tried weed several times in college. It had no effect whatsoever, besides a bad smell. I tried hash once, and THAT did the trick. I promptly quit all of that after watching too many brilliant people throw their lives away. To top everything off, my brother asked his fiancee to quit using or he would be forced to leave, and she chose drugs over him. And he loved her more than anything.
So I'm hoping you can understand how insane this all sounds to me. Part of me wants to respond to this topic in anger. However, I am not an angry person by any means. Plus, due to my own cigarette habit, I can't respond that way because it would be hypocritical. Part of me wants to understand why. However, I don't think I really want to know the answer. And part of me, the part that's winning, says it's their lives, let them do as they wish, no matter how stupid it sounds to me. The whole discussion just makes me sad, and I wasn't even going to post, but I felt I owed it to some people to say something.
So, I guess, if I had a question, it would be, do you ever wonder what your life would've been like if you'd never done drugs at all?
PAW
P.S. There are undoubtedly those of you who cannot LIVE without their fourteen coffees a day who think I'm absolutely crazy for being caffeine-free. If you'd like, I can post my own personal testimonial on why I'd recommend it to every last person on Earth.
2c-b really does not have a lot of street names. I've never met anyone that calls it anything else than 2c-b, although www.erowid.org says it has a few street names but I dunno where those applies to (street names are really local, so one name one place might be incorrect some other place). Note that bromo-dragonfly is an entirely different drug (3c-b-x or something) and I believe it is a bit heavier than 2c-b (one guy died from shooting it not long ago in Norway, 'causing a huge lash on Research Chemicals in the press :/ )
Anyway 20mg is a pretty intense trip if taken nasally, I recommend 15-17mg, but it can be hard to dose right.
If you take it orally you should as a general rule add 5mg. So if you want an intense trip you'd do 25, or if you want a good but not so intense you'd do 20mg. I've never done it orally but that's pretty much what my supplier told me.
Oral is also supposedly a somewhat different experience. When snorting you become completely asexual whereas people often feel erotic when taking it orally.
ok, well on erowid at the top of the page after you click the 2c-b thing it has a few names, the one I actually recognize is mescaline. Is that just a drug thats like 2c-b or is that a common name for it?
ok, well on erowid at the top of the page after you click the 2c-b thing it has a few names, the one I actually recognize is mescaline. Is that just a drug thats like 2c-b or is that a common name for it?2c-b and Mescaline are both phenethylamines but thats about where the similarities between to two end
I can't say that I understand any of this. I have been straight most of my life, only drinking alcohol on special occasions and never going overboard with it, and I'm even 100% caffeine-free. I have only one vice, that being cigarettes. I can't say I'm proud of that, nor can I say I plan to quit any time soon. I've already decided that I will quit for someone special, and as soon as she enters my life, I'll discard the rest and be completely drug-free. Though that's a strange term to use, since a lot of people don't consider nicotine a drug, but I do, and I happen to be the only one that counts. :-D
I tried weed several times in college. It had no effect whatsoever, besides a bad smell. I tried hash once, and THAT did the trick. I promptly quit all of that after watching too many brilliant people throw their lives away. To top everything off, my brother asked his fiancee to quit using or he would be forced to leave, and she chose drugs over him. And he loved her more than anything.
So I'm hoping you can understand how insane this all sounds to me. Part of me wants to respond to this topic in anger. However, I am not an angry person by any means. Plus, due to my own cigarette habit, I can't respond that way because it would be hypocritical. Part of me wants to understand why. However, I don't think I really want to know the answer. And part of me, the part that's winning, says it's their lives, let them do as they wish, no matter how stupid it sounds to me. The whole discussion just makes me sad, and I wasn't even going to post, but I felt I owed it to some people to say something.
So, I guess, if I had a question, it would be, do you ever wonder what your life would've been like if you'd never done drugs at all?
PAW
P.S. There are undoubtedly those of you who cannot LIVE without their fourteen coffees a day who think I'm absolutely crazy for being caffeine-free. If you'd like, I can post my own personal testimonial on why I'd recommend it to every last person on Earth.
I'm still contemplating taking acid. I've been asking around a lot and I think I have my shit straight now, but I just don't know how crazy it's going to be. I hear 1 hit you kinda feel it and don't really see anything, but 2-3 is generally a good place to start. I don't want to forget how to talk and become really anxious and worried that I'm not talking and freak the fuck out. If I do it, I definitely plan on taking it with someone, but. How the fuck do you know if you're ready for that kinda shit? It sounds cool as hell, but are you conscious about it? Is it like, ok that looks fucked up, i know im tripping, but that just looks fucked up and sometimes you have to let it go because you could fuck yourself worse? And what about the whole Shepards paradox thing, haha how is that? I guess my main question is, how easy is it to go crazy on acid? but i guess that depends entirely on everything..eh.. hows the comedown?
omacatl's extraction processes for mescaline are all kinda involved
the easiest thing to do is just cut up the cactus spines and all and blend them in a food processor or blender with like 2 parts cactus to 1 part water in a food processor rough chop or 1 part water to 1 part cactus in a blender and then boil the mixture down in a big soup kettle until it gets pretty thick, and then strain it through clean towel or a tshirt (do not use cheesecloth) and the resulting brew is pretty fuckin potent.
I mean if you're not man enough to drink 8 fluid ounces of straight up cactus juice or mix it in with orange juice or something then go with one of his fancy alcohol extraction methods, but my method is by far the easiest and least time consuming (i've prepared cactus at least 2 or 3 different ways)
I would also like to mention that my method involves me taking an evening to create the brew, smoking pot while simmering the brew, chilling out that night, and then my test dosage is to measure out 4 fl oz of the brew and see what that does immediately after the process is finished (yes it is still warm omacatl dont puke) then I put it in the freezer for an hour and move it to the fridge overnight.
the next day, I get up whenever, but I make sure that a) I am active all day long and b) I eat as little as possible. Then around like 6:30 or 7 pm I drink what I feel to be a full dosage of the brew, and then about an hour later I drink half that again. My method as far as tiring myself and depriving myself of food causes the trip to come on earlier (around 90 minutes after first ingestion) and more intensely as well, but it levels off severely unless I take that second dosage. After the second dosage has set in its usually about 9:30, and anywhere from about 9:45 to 10:15 stuff that isnt supposed to happen to people on mescaline happens to me. Last time I tripped I saw the severed heads of mystic writers floating through the air in front of my face. That particular brew was extremely strong for some reason and I would say between the two dosages I took, I was looking at something like a 900+ mg hit of mescaline. It was actually like... frightening.
I've tried doing it later at night, but I usually fall asleep before I get to the good shit and just have really colorful dreams... that arent as good as real tripping so I prefer to start earlier in the evening.
I can't say that I understand any of this. I have been straight most of my life, only drinking alcohol on special occasions and never going overboard with it, and I'm even 100% caffeine-free. I have only one vice, that being cigarettes. I can't say I'm proud of that, nor can I say I plan to quit any time soon. I've already decided that I will quit for someone special, and as soon as she enters my life, I'll discard the rest and be completely drug-free. Though that's a strange term to use, since a lot of people don't consider nicotine a drug, but I do, and I happen to be the only one that counts. :-D
I tried weed several times in college. It had no effect whatsoever, besides a bad smell. I tried hash once, and THAT did the trick. I promptly quit all of that after watching too many brilliant people throw their lives away. To top everything off, my brother asked his fiancee to quit using or he would be forced to leave, and she chose drugs over him. And he loved her more than anything.
So I'm hoping you can understand how insane this all sounds to me. Part of me wants to respond to this topic in anger. However, I am not an angry person by any means. Plus, due to my own cigarette habit, I can't respond that way because it would be hypocritical. Part of me wants to understand why. However, I don't think I really want to know the answer. And part of me, the part that's winning, says it's their lives, let them do as they wish, no matter how stupid it sounds to me. The whole discussion just makes me sad, and I wasn't even going to post, but I felt I owed it to some people to say something.
So, I guess, if I had a question, it would be, do you ever wonder what your life would've been like if you'd never done drugs at all?
PAW
P.S. There are undoubtedly those of you who cannot LIVE without their fourteen coffees a day who think I'm absolutely crazy for being caffeine-free. If you'd like, I can post my own personal testimonial on why I'd recommend it to every last person on Earth.
i have tried the cactus tea route. the first time nothing happened, except i got nasueas. i probably used a weak specimen. the second time i made tea, it was from dried cactus. it worked but youch. puking and general stomach grind from all the cactus material in my stomach. an alcohol extraction is fairly simple, and only takes a few hours if you use a heat source. its just soaking, agitating, filtering, evaporating and as a result you have much less material to work with. some people, like myself, enjoy the aesthetics of having pure mescaline crystal for accurate dosing that comes from a more complex acid/base extraction. of course this is purely just preference, different strokes for different folks but note there is a difference between supposing you ate a 900mg dose and actually extracting and measuring out a 900 mg dose. it is also a lot easier to store and transport a mere gram of powder than it is a bottle of cactus tea. :cool:. either way, mescaline cacti are my favorite entheogen.Yeah, I agree, it would be nice to be able to have that exactness of knowing how much you're taking, and I have a friend who is pretty good with chemistry stuff. Hes at college right now, but maybe over christmas break we'll try it. (also there are a lot of accounts of what should happen at the different dosage levels, and the experience that I had is literally off the charts (it wasnt just limited to the severed heads hallucination) of what I have seen people describe in relation to dosage levels. Though I haven't talked to many (or any at all for that matter) dudes that have consciously known that they took over 1000mg of mescaline in one go, so I don't know how that stacks up. But yeah, I'd say through my method, that particular time I ended up drinking about 12 fl oz of the brew I had, and the cactus we bought was 40" if I remember correctly that particular cactus yielded 3.5 water bottles worth of cactus brew (16.9 fl oz is the standard size for water bottles here (.5 L)) so yeah, if you're into only doing like 300-500 mg hits that cactus probably produced 7 or 8 quality hits of mescaline.
The nickname stated on Erowid is Bromo Mescaline, not Mescaline. It's kind of like GHB being called Liquid Ecstasy; It's just slang because someone figured they're kinda similar (what?) and people that's familiar with Mescaline/Ecstasy might be interested in testing an alternative version of what they've heard of.
ok, well on erowid at the top of the page after you click the 2c-b thing it has a few names, the one I actually recognize is mescaline. Is that just a drug thats like 2c-b or is that a common name for it?
I can't say that I understand any of this. I have been straight most of my life, only drinking alcohol on special occasions and never going overboard with it, and I'm even 100% caffeine-free. I have only one vice, that being cigarettes. I can't say I'm proud of that, nor can I say I plan to quit any time soon. I've already decided that I will quit for someone special, and as soon as she enters my life, I'll discard the rest and be completely drug-free. Though that's a strange term to use, since a lot of people don't consider nicotine a drug, but I do, and I happen to be the only one that counts. :-DI think most of the people posting in here to do count alcohol, nicotine and caffeine as a drug. Hell, I even consider chocolate one.
I tried weed several times in college. It had no effect whatsoever, besides a bad smell. I tried hash once, and THAT did the trick. I promptly quit all of that after watching too many brilliant people throw their lives away. To top everything off, my brother asked his fiancee to quit using or he would be forced to leave, and she chose drugs over him. And he loved her more than anything.Your brother did not respect her use of something she considers critical to the person she is. He tried to restrict her freedom to do what she wanted with our own consciousness. And by the way you present it, she only smoked weed. Did he have ONE good reason why she should quit? The only one I can think of has to do with kids, since the government can take away your kids if you smoke weed. But they didn't have kids yet, now did they?
So I'm hoping you can understand how insane this all sounds to me. Part of me wants to respond to this topic in anger. However, I am not an angry person by any means. Plus, due to my own cigarette habit, I can't respond that way because it would be hypocritical. Part of me wants to understand why. However, I don't think I really want to know the answer. And part of me, the part that's winning, says it's their lives, let them do as they wish, no matter how stupid it sounds to me. The whole discussion just makes me sad, and I wasn't even going to post, but I felt I owed it to some people to say something.Now this is where you become a fucking asshole. Fuck you. How the hell do you know that YOUR CHOICES are the right? Your cigarette habit can not be compared to this in any way. You're what, ADDICTED to cigarettes? That means you're body and mind NEEDS CIGARETTES TO WORK.
So, I guess, if I had a question, it would be, do you ever wonder what your life would've been like if you'd never done drugs at all?My life would probably be the same except I'd never realise a few things. I'd probably still drink way more than I should (I actually used to drink a lot more before, often taking litre bottles of booze to parties, whereas I now often drink 4-6 pints, besides also reducing from two-three times a week to two-three times a month).
PAW
P.S. There are undoubtedly those of you who cannot LIVE without their fourteen coffees a day who think I'm absolutely crazy for being caffeine-free. If you'd like, I can post my own personal testimonial on why I'd recommend it to every last person on Earth.
We're talking about effects, dosage, what to watch out for, what to do if things go wrong, etc. We're extremely careful and spend 20+hours reading about new drugs we're going to try. We find data on known cases of deaths and damage and find out what went wrong and what not to do.
Hmmm, well that being said. Does anyone know a popular way of getting 2c-b? I myself havn't heard speak of it around here and don't have a dealer who's into much heavier stuff then weed.
This is extremely true. I researched days and days before I did salvia. I even researched alcohol. Hell, I even do research into drugs I'll probably never take. Serious research too; I like to know how it is working in my brain, times and durations, effects and side-effects, and death statistics.
im going to be trying out salvia this week. anyone taken it yet + any tips or anything ( i mean other than the usual googled tips)
Hmmm, well that being said. Does anyone know a popular way of getting 2c-b? I myself havn't heard speak of it around here and don't have a dealer who's into much heavier stuff then weed.Depends on where you're from. It's not scheduled in every country (I think it's legal to own in Canada... Not sure though), but around here you'd have to get it off a dealer. Anyone who deals ecstasy and/or other psychedellics might have it. It's pretty common at raves and psytrance parties, but except from that I think it's kind of rare (although increasingly common, about a year ago no one has heard of it around here but now everyone knows what it is, just not as available as ecstasy and other similar popular drugs), so you might have to establish some contacts first.
It fluctuates so much that I cant really give an answer. Some days I smoke upwards of 10 grams, and some days I don't smoke very much at all. I don't really have a set schedule because I usually just work smoking into my schedule whenever I get the chance - between classes, before work, after dinner etc...for me the main issue was money
I went from being a regular smoker to being a daily smoker when I realized that I could function easily while stoned. After that, I saw few reasons to remain sober.
It fluctuates so much that I cant really give an answer. Some days I smoke upwards of 10 grams, and some days I don't smoke very much at all. I don't really have a set schedule because I usually just work smoking into my schedule whenever I get the chance - between classes, before work, after dinner etc...
I went from being a regular smoker to being a daily smoker when I realized that I could function easily while stoned. After that, I saw few reasons to remain sober.
I went from being a regular smoker to being a daily smoker when I realized that I could function easily while stoned. After that, I saw few reasons to remain sober.
When I said ten grams, that was simply an illustration of the extreme - something that I do only seldom.
If I had to give and estimate of my normal daily consumption I'd guess at between .5-1 grams a day. That means I'm buying a 20 a little more often than once every two weeks which figures to about $50 a month.
Some days though, you just know are going to be abysmal. Last time I smoked THAT much, I rolled 20 joints during my 2 hour break between classes which took up the better part of the two twenties I had. I was smoking them at every opportunity I had. I certainly shared some of them, but the point is that yeah, I sometimes binge.
How are the prices in the US? Over here it's approx $20 for a gram of hash and $25-30 for a gram of pot. It's quite fucking expensive to say the least!
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In my neck of the woods you buy divisions or multiples of ounces. The most common unit here is the 1/4 ounce which is 7 grams and costs $20. Because of our proximity to the major growing areas of Mexico, New Mexico, Northern AZ, and NorCal, prices go way way down as the amounts go up. An ounce is usually $60, QP $150, # $300-500
That is for mersh/midis, though. Chronic is more expensive, but never THAT expensive.
Your brother did not respect her use of something she considers critical to the person she is. He tried to restrict her freedom to do what she wanted with our own consciousness. And by the way you present it, she only smoked weed. Did he have ONE good reason why she should quit? The only one I can think of has to do with kids, since the government can take away your kids if you smoke weed. But they didn't have kids yet, now did they?
Smoking weed was an important part of who she was, and it probably made her life easier, as she was mentally able to let go and become at peace with oneself. Most of us have methods of venting and reviewing aspects of our lives. It's better that she smokes weed to do so, than to let shit build up, because letting shit build up makes you pretty fucking unhappy. And if that's the way weed worked for her, then your brother pretty much asked her to abandon her thing in life that makes her in peace, or him. Add in the fact that he was adding what to me and therefore to her a completely unacceptable need for control over her life and I don't see how she could ever choose him. Love is not about finding the person that most applies to your tastes and then force her into completely applying to them.
Now this is where you become a fucking asshole. Fuck you. How the hell do you know that YOUR CHOICES are the right? Your cigarette habit can not be compared to this in any way. You're what, ADDICTED to cigarettes? That means you're body and mind NEEDS CIGARETTES TO WORK.
Ok but never mind all this. Here's what I'd like to know. What do you think is so wrong about using psychedellic drugs, apart from your obvious bias against it (that "it's their lives" etc pretty much spills your beans)? It's not nearly as dangerous as you'd think.
Psychedellic drugs generally are not deadly. They're not addictive. We're not talking about cocaine, speed or heroin here. We're talking about drugs that DO NOT ALLOW AN ESCAPE FROM REALITY. Psychedellic drugs work as an amplifier to your own psyche, often combined with a lightshow and weird views that your own mind design to amplify that experience.
I have an example. One time I did MDMA there was a guy there who spent all day playing WoW. He seemed pretty stable and happy with his view. Whenever anyone asked him wether he should go out socialising he was like "I don't see the point" etc and backing up his view with pretty good points about why he shouldn't (I can't remember them now, since I only met him once and was never impressed, but I do remember seeing the logic in what he said). He seemed to completely be in control of his choice to use 15 hours a day in front of that computer doing that and never socialising.
Ok now, he was randomly the housemate of some people I was doing drugs with one night. We were gonna do MDMA, and by chance he was curious and went up and asked what the fuzz was all about. When he knew we were all gonna try MDMA, and a lot of us first-timers (including me) he was like 'cool' and wanted to watch, so he sat down. (We had not yet taken the capsules). Anyway, as the capsules arrived my friend asked him to leave, because as a general rule we don't want people not taking anything to watch us take stuff. And he was like, didn't want to miss this shit so he went "Ah what the hell, let me buy one too."
Once his kicked in, he felt very uneasy. He obviously had some trouble with some emotional stuff, and looked pretty miserable. I was halfway concerned he was having a bad trip and would never touch this shit again. In fact, I was wondering wether MDMA wasn't such a great drug after all. All these thoughts were half-assed from my POV since I was pretty much in a very happy place so I didn't give it too much thought. As his trip became less intense he just talked and talked to this guy about all his problems and how his life is incomplete and how unhappy he is. At that moment I was tripping on 2c-b and found the conversation to be extremely boring (considering that 2c-b relies on the mood it could've made me go into an unhappy place as well, so I fled the scene).
I heard a few months later that after that night he decided to get his life back on track. He quit WoW and managed to get good grades on his exams (as opposed to earlier efforts, due to his addiction) and after the term he moved home so he could get closer to his family again. He also started socialising a lot, and felt that even though he was not very good socially, he needed to get better because he had realised that nothing is more important than having other people in your life.
Now that's the kind of shit that happens on these drugs. Most of the time, it's only minor stuff and fun, but psychedellics are NOT AN ESCAPE in contrary to your neo-fascist views. If there's anything on your mind, it WILL be amplified. And it will most likely make you more aware of who you are and what you need and make up your mind about moving towards your own happiness. For me, as stupid as this may sound, it actually made me focus less on studies and more on music, because that's what I love to do, and even if I'm not that great at it, I realised that experimenting with sound and trying to make soundscapes is the best thing in my life atm, and I should make the most of it while it lasts. Comments telling me to shut up because I suck may ensue. But that's what I feel, and it's what makes ME happy.
Another good examples is the fact that addicts (to heroin, speed etc) don't like psychedellics since it amplifies their problems, and they don't have an easy way out. They just realise they have to quit and since they're so deep into their addiction (and the lifestyle, remember that at this point it's the only way of life they know) that they become depressed.
I'm not going to claim that psychedellics are 100% safe either. People occacionally die from it. That's why MDMA has a bad rep, because unlike alcohol, teenagers are in a danger zone. With alcohol, health and a good liver will keep you alive. With MDMA, hyperthermia, dehydration and hyperhydration can be deadly, and teenagers are especially vulnerable to this. Yet, in 2005 only 80 people had ever died from MDMA in UK so it's not really that dangerous, it's just that since kids are the most likely to die it becomes a national scandal (after all, the media won't care if a 50-year old died from a drug, but once a 15-20-year old does, it's all over the newspapers).
My life would probably be the same except I'd never realise a few things. I'd probably still drink way more than I should (I actually used to drink a lot more before, often taking litre bottles of booze to parties, whereas I now often drink 4-6 pints, besides also reducing from two-three times a week to two-three times a month).
But the most important thing is, that I'm a free person. I choose to do with my mind and my body as I will. If I want to have a good time, I don't want it to be restricted to watching sitcoms, to drinking alcohol etc. I'm sure you would agree, deep experiences are way more worthwhile (and fun) than shallow. And that's just what psychedellics are. The deepest fucking experience you can imagine (well, depends on the drug, set and setting, but it's way deeper than spending your day playing videogames).
I don't ever hurt anyone or myself, and I'm perfectly capable of not doing anything criminal. I'm currently studying to be an engineer so I don't need your prejudice that drug users are dumb fucks or anything like that. I've always been a responsible person and I don't see how this is a contradiction to this, in fact this very topic is a golden example of how responsibly we're all taking the drug-using. We're talking about effects, dosage, what to watch out for, what to do if things go wrong, etc. We're extremely careful and spend 20+hours reading about new drugs we're going to try. We find datas on known cases of deaths and damage and find out what went wrong and what not to do. So yeah, go ahead and live in your little bubble about how bad and dangerous and self-destructive this is. That's not the point. I don't fucking care if you hate me for doing ecstasy. What I do care about, is you take your time to write that shitty post about your cigarette addiction and your dominating brother and then decide to judge people based on your views, which are probably 100% based on the shit you've heard from the media and propaganda system. People wasting their lives on hash, give me a fucking break you fucking piece of shit. How dare you, filled to the fucking brim with prejudice, and a fucking whiner, tell me how to live my life? You're no better than those people in high school that thought "having good grades is nerdy". You're exact fucking same just in the opposite end of the specter. YOUR VIEWS MEAN SHIT. THE END.
FUCCCCKKKKKKKMan.. an ounce for 60 bucks...
In my neck of the woods you buy divisions or multiples of ounces. The most common unit here is the 1/4 ounce which is 7 grams and costs $20. Because of our proximity to the major growing areas of Mexico, New Mexico, Northern AZ, and NorCal, prices go way way down as the amounts go up. An ounce is usually $60, QP $150, # $300-500
That is for mersh/midis, though. Chronic is more expensive, but never THAT expensive.
^The stereotypical stoner here from what I've seen protrayed by the media it ranges from someone easygoing, down to earth, forgetful, and quick to laugh - to someone thats jobless, unmotivated, nonsensical, monotone, lethargic, slow to speak, and with horrible hygiene.
What is the smoking culture like in America? Do you guys have some major stoners who are really ratty and don't do much but get high? They're pretty common in Australia - in fact I think weed is in general. In any group of people there's always one or two people who're into it.
One more thing, what are people's experiences with combining alcohol with weed? I don't know if it's just me, but I really find that whatever you do first will be the most powerful of the two feelings throughout the rest of the intoxication period. When I smoke weed first I usually hardly notice I'm drunk, and when I'm drunk first I usually hardly notice that I'm high. Does this happen to anybody with any combinations of drugs? I'm interested to see if your brain has trouble feeling all these different things if a strong feeling is predominant before the second/third/whatever appears.
I personally don't like mixing the two because weed doesn't make me sleepy, although alcohol usually does.
Probably has something to do with the fact I drink much more than I smoke.
I had a pretty interesting experience last night, I dropped part of a pill and smoked a lot of weed. The combination of stimulant and depressant was pretty cool, although I wouldn't really think it was worth the money for the pill in most circumstances.
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In my neck of the woods you buy divisions or multiples of ounces. The most common unit here is the 1/4 ounce which is 7 grams and costs $20. Because of our proximity to the major growing areas of Mexico, New Mexico, Northern AZ, and NorCal, prices go way way down as the amounts go up. An ounce is usually $60, QP $150, # $300-500
man you must be in heaven or something :fogetgasp:. i get 2 grams for 20$ sometimes 2.5 . a dime heres 10$. where exactly do you live dude. and an ounce for 60$??? that is affordable yet A LOT! awesome. an ounce here is 280$......you really are in heaven
i tried salvia last week and it was pretty neat. a different type of feeling than weed for sure. I was really annoyed by a lot of things though. for one we did it in a forest area right next to the train tracks. everytime a train passed by it would completely fuck me up. at one point i looked at the train and i swear it looked like it wasnt going straight but moreso a curve (atleast 4 trains pass by every 2 mins or so, but over the years ive gotten pretty used to it lol). messed up stuff. it was an ok high, just didnt last too long though :fogetsad:
where exactly do you live dude.
man you must be in heaven or something :fogetgasp:. i get 2 grams for 20$ sometimes 2.5 . a dime heres 10$. where exactly do you live dude. and an ounce for 60$??? that is affordable yet A LOT! awesome. an ounce here is 280$......you really are in heaven
i tried salvia last week and it was pretty neat. a different type of feeling than weed for sure. I was really annoyed by a lot of things though. for one we did it in a forest area right next to the train tracks. everytime a train passed by it would completely fuck me up. at one point i looked at the train and i swear it looked like it wasnt going straight but moreso a curve (atleast 4 trains pass by every 2 mins or so, but over the years ive gotten pretty used to it lol). messed up stuff. it was an ok high, just didnt last too long though :fogetsad:
Was just wondering, does anyone have any readable reports up on Erowid? I just submitted one and would be interested in reading other peoples.Link me up yo, I wanna read it. I don't have anything up, but I spend a lot of time reading on Erowid so yeah, post it. What substance btw?
Link me up yo, I wanna read it. I don't have anything up, but I spend a lot of time reading on Erowid so yeah, post it. What substance btw?
Doesn't anybody only do weed :(
Me, I'm not really interested in any drug that makes you hyper, paranoid, or crazy, or any that can potentially kill you, so I stay away from crack, meth, heroin, i can't even stand getting hyper off things like soda or sugar(staying up all night, pasing, unable to sleep). Hell, i've even gotten hyper on weed(is possible with really strong shit, altho, you up the dose just a bit beyond hyper and you get into the sleepy stage), but it's not as uncomfortable. More like taking a quick run, without being out of breathe.
I have an interest in trying psychedelics, but someone told me that salvia sucked balls, saying it was "faggot weed." He knows a bit about drugs, more so then myself, but maybe that's just his preference. I've had lucid dreams, so I guess those can be considered a psychedelic, due to dmt. It's like being awake in your dream, tho. You have complete control over your dream environment, surprisingly, not everyone can enduce lucid dreaming, it was fun, but it didn't really have a profound effect. I was able to sync movement with dream,tho.(ex. tilting my head and the dream environment moves in sync, so it looks as if i'm actually looking around in the dream)So that's cool I guess. But, I'm not really interested in going balls out of this world, just want to experience something fun and profound. I've heard mushrooms are good for this, but I've also heard of threats of people taking normal mushrooms and dropping lsd on them passing them off as shrooms... i'm not really ready nor willing to experience lsd just yet, so I thought maybe mushrooms would be better to start out on, since just a small dosage has been noted to be very calm. What do you guys think? Would shrooms be good to start out on for psychedelics.
Anybody know the effects of mixing weed and antidepressants? Specifically SSRI's?
At the same time, or do you mean you take anti-depressants and wanna know if it's safe to smoke weed as well? My friend takes anti-depressants, is required to every day otherwise he gets temperamental. He smokes weed a lot, and it hasn't seemed to cause many problems for him. He's turned out pretty normal.
It shouldn't be too much of a problem but I would take it really slowly, just in case. Also note that there are different types of antidepressants, so just because his friend does it doesn't make it instantly safe for you.
Anybody know the effects of mixing weed and antidepressants? Specifically SSRI's?
See, I haven't been taking them for awhile. I haven't even received them yet. My aunt's a nurse and I was just talking with her about shit and she said she could get me antidepressants (Fluoxetine). I said I'd try them and she's supposed to be sending me some. She's been on it for like a year. Well, regardless, I just heard that there could be some weird reactions like hallucinations (probably bullshit) and didn't know. I'll just have to try it out and see what happens.
See, I haven't been taking them for awhile. I haven't even received them yet. My aunt's a nurse and I was just talking with her about shit and she said she could get me antidepressants (Fluoxetine). I said I'd try them and she's supposed to be sending me some. She's been on it for like a year. Well, regardless, I just heard that there could be some weird reactions like hallucinations (probably bullshit) and didn't know. I'll just have to try it out and see what happens.
I don't think this is the place at all. This topic is about info for people who do drugs, not about announcing your current high. If you had been tripping, on the other hand, I'd certainly love to ask questions about what's going on...
Then when I finally do start tripping, i'll let you know. Until then tho... well, let's get back on topic shall we?Oh man sorry. I thought you had just smoked weed. I didn't know people used the term 'high' for anything tripworthy. Sorry man, what're you on? Please post, I'd love to hear about the effect of anything that makes you trip.
i really do not see how you can have a bad trip on lsd.
your mood affects your trip.
stay in a good mood.
if you start to spiral, tell someone, and either move to a new location, or start interacting with nature.
want to tell us what you're actually on?
I believe I specifically stated it was marijuana.
You didn't.
Most people (anyone?) don't have the ability to consciously and completely control their mood even on a day-to-day basis and that's not even taking into consideration the fact they are on a mind-altering drug that can easily dig up repressed thoughts and ideas.
"if you start to spiral, tell someone, and either move to a new location, or start interacting with nature."
...I don't even know what to say to that. I mean, yeah, setting does play an important role, but it's not as simply as 'interact with nature and you will instantly be happy.'
So I did 5-meo-DiPT two days ago (and later on the comedown some cannabis and when that had faded I tried ketamine).
That shit is fucking weird, and I didn't really have a good time. It was rather unpleasant for the most part and I was forcing myself to think good thoughts which actually did work but since it comes in waves I'd have a hard time thinking good thoughts when peaking.
Anyway it was pretty cool after smoking cannabis, in which the visuals returned and I was able to look at the weird effects while being high.
5-meo-DiPT is pretty hard to describe, but DIMENSIONAL SICKNESS might be a good way to describe it. Time & space pretty much mean a lot less and you feel you're drifting inside additional dimensions. It's really hard (impossible?) to explain to anyone that has never done psychedellics but it caught me by surprise.
I only did 15 mg so it wasn't really that much of a deal but enough to send me TRIPPING and at times confused by the whole dimensional rift.
As for ketamine I did 50mg which didn't really do too much. I got relaxed and movement felt weird but that's about it.
edit: Oh yeah, 5-meo-dipt changed the audioscape somewhat. I'd often hear harmonic singing in songs where that has only one singer, so my mind pretty much ADDED both singers and instruments that weren't really there and it enchanted the music to best fucking ever. All music sounded GREAT while on 5-meo-dipt.
edit: Oh yeah, 5-meo-dipt is the same as FOXY in case anyone uses that name (erowid lol).
I have a supplier that has a lot of research chemicals.
If you live in Canada you can easily get it legally. I won't post a link since it's illegal in most countries, but try googling around (and I also don't have the link and too lazy to ask the guy who gave it to me for it). There are a few research chemicals sites in Canada that ships around, if you do get onto one I'd recommend doing a 2c-x drug first, because 5-meo-dipt is pretty heavy imo! Half of my trip was what you could consider a bad trip and I won't recommend that, because it was really shit. :(
But the parts that were good were fucking great. Actually, I don't think it should be a problem to take if you just make sure you have some cannabis available. The euphoric nature of cannabis will surely make it good in case you're feeling anxious.
edit: As for ketamine, it should be easily available from anyone that sells rave-drugs. It's pretty popular in Europe. In Norway it's mostly in powder form, I think it's more often in pill form at the other side of the pond but not really sure.
i really do not see how you can have a bad trip on lsd.
your mood affects your trip.
stay in a good mood.
if you start to spiral, tell someone, and either move to a new location, or start interacting with nature.
Does 2c-x have any properties similar to amphetamines? Also cannabis gives me panic attacks. I try to avoid anything that has increased heart rate as a listed effect.
Better to be safe than sorry. DXM is definitely not worth dying over.
Here's the DXM faq:
http://www.dextroverse.org/faq/dxm_faq.html
Couldn't hurt to at least read a few of the sections you're curious about.
Things I suggest watching while tripping: Visa Checkcard CommercialsThe last thing I want to do is watch TV when I'm tripping.
Not that I was but some commercials just SEEM like they were designed for that these days
Maybe it's just because everyone acts psycho in those commercials and it's like rainbow vomit and things come out of nowhere
actually TV is pretty weird if you're totally tripping balls. it really makes me feel sad about how crazy humanity is and i wonder about what people willingly watch on a daily basis.
this may have stemmed from my first acid trip, where an all-night marathon of "the most dangerous catch" (crab-fishing reality show) was playing. i felt like i was on the brink of insanity.
"yeah we work hard out here, it's hard work, we like crabbin' "
"just tryin' to make it through the day, catching some crabs"
(camera directs to a monstrous pile of writhing crabs)
"sure is cold out here"
"pretty good day for crabbin' "
this show played for at least 8 hours, probably the whole duration of my trip
THE CRABS... THE CRABS
this may have stemmed from my first acid trip, where an all-night marathon of "the most dangerous catch" (crab-fishing reality show) was playing. i felt like i was on the brink of insanity.
"yeah we work hard out here, it's hard work, we like crabbin' "
"just tryin' to make it through the day, catching some crabs"
(camera directs to a monstrous pile of writhing crabs)
"sure is cold out here"
"pretty good day for crabbin' "
this show played for at least 8 hours, probably the whole duration of my trip
THE CRABS... THE CRABS
I do indulge in #music because wc and Lars are always there so we always end up talking about drugs somehow.yeaaaa
yeaaaa
I've been looking to tell you guys about my 5-meo-dipt trip lately but it seems all three of us are never active at the same time anymore :(
THE CURSE OF THE GOLDEN DIPT
yes it is very possible to havea abd trips on shrooms shrooms are alot darker than acid
im actually now trippin on mushrooms, goin to a party soon ate half a bag (maybe 30-40?) still got alot left
the keyboard characters r dancing, the moniters twisting...
things are not as they seem....
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I see, but, are you able to not y'know, be permanently damaged in your mind from a bad trip? I wanna know if it's safe, basically. I always make sure before I try anything, y'know? Are the bad trips like "ah, that was crazy, but i'm fine now." or, afterward are you like, depressed and damaged? Mentally I mean, not physically. I know they make you laugh like hell, but I just wanna make sure I know what I'm getting myself into because I'm thinking of getting some.
Different for each individually. That's the foundation of a psychedelic drug. You might be fine, or you might not be.
So, if I like took precautions, like, was some place safe and comfortable and familiar, and had a sit in partner, and didn't take too big of doses, should I be fine? I mean, I chose shrooms because they seemed like the safest bet if I wanna try psychedelics. I just need to be in a calm and relaxed environment. I think I'm willing to do them then, but I'm going to start off on a smaller amount, and see if it has any adverse effects on me, if not, I might up the dose just a lil bit, just to see, and if that has any bad effects on me, then I may not try again, or I may just stick to a low dose. We'll see how things go. The only thing I need now is where to get them. :D
May I ask anyone that knows, what is it like being on shrooms? I know that at really low dosages, hallucinations aren't as likely, but what are some of your best trips while on shrooms? what I mean is, is it just you see a bunch of weird random crap that isn't there, or is it merely a manipulation of what you're seeing in front of you or experiencing? Basically, is it more like a mirage, or is what you're seeing hallucination wise just a weirded up version of what's actually there in front of you?(example: couch seems to have a presence, the colors are changing, or whatever happens as apposed to seeing some baby dragon with sixteen eyes flying around)
Is it possible to have bad trips on mushrooms? Are any of these bad trips of any consequence to the psyche, or does the bad trip just come and go and doesn't really have any adverse effect on you? I'm not really knowledgeable on drugs(except maybe marijuana)so I just wanted to know exactly what I'm doing before I do it, y'know? So I was curious as to what it is like? I know breathing walls is a common hallucination, but I just wanted to know if these hallucinations are hardcore or if they are mellow and calm. Basically, what is a shroom trip like?
@PTizzle:
Don't take DXM if you are taking Lexapro. Mixing SSRI's and DXM can cause Seretonin Syndrome, which can easily cause death if you aren't cautious.
DiPT is the auditory hallucinogen, and 5-meo-DiPT is a pretty close relative. Yeah, it alters sound but not drastically. It just enchances music and shit like that. DiPT can REALLY make sound fucked up (from what I heard). 5-meo-DiPT is visual as well and has a lot of strange time/space effects. I wrote about it just a few posts up.
That's the auditory hallucinogen right?
I'd love to hear about some experiences on it.
Well, I'd start out with a low dose.
An added plus for low doses is that sometimes they wear off after 2 hours already or something like that, instead of the full duration of 6 hours.
You're perception of time is pretty much fucked so those 6 hours feel like days, which I why never take higher doses anymore.
Because higher doses are pretty much like spirals of some sort. You keep shifting between states of happines and annoyance, fear, whatever. (Atleast for me). Also the visual things happening is pretty much a weirded up version of what's in front of you.
For example, I once had a higher dose and was lying on my bed, and if I started looking to a corner of my room the corner started expanding to other corners, and the print on my shirt was getting 3d etc.
Also make sure to close your eyes at one point, because the visuals you'll see with your eyes closed are pretty much fantastic with some psychedelic trance playing in the background.
But make sure you're not spending the majority of the trip just lying and looking to yourself, try interacting with your friend, because it's really fucking annoying that you're stuck in your head for what feels like days trying to talk some sense in yourself.
Shrooms are really inward spiritual experiences.
For me atleast.
I see, well, I'm an atheist, so I dunno how much of a spiritual experience it'd be for me, lol.
But without suffering any permenant damage, like psychosis for example.
I see, well, I'm an atheist, so I dunno how much of a spiritual experience it'd be for me, lol.I'm an atheist (well more like agnostic) but I'm perfectly capable of having spiritual experiences. Religiousness isn't a prerestique for spiritual experiences, but I'd say that spiritual experiences SHOULD be a prerestique for religiousness.
Psychedelics have been known to unlock latent psychological disorders. It's not going to give you schizophrenia unless you were already going to get it, but it could bring out something you don't know about.
I'm an atheist (well more like agnostic) but I'm perfectly capable of having spiritual experiences. Religiousness isn't a prerestique for spiritual experiences, but I'd say that spiritual experiences SHOULD be a prerestique for religiousness.
In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!
In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!It's not the hallucinations (if we're thinking visual or auditory) that makes the experience spiritual. It's feeling the presence of something else, a guider or whatever. A supreme being. It's a unique feeling. And while it indeed is nothing but the mind, that's what spiritualism is. It's not about BELIEVING IN GOD etc, but it's atoning to the power in your own mind that watches over you. Abrahamic religions are too much about believing in things outside your body (God and Jesus and whatnot) but imo religion should be about inward realisation of what reality means to you. And how you deal with it.
In my view(this is just my stand point)hallucinations should be viewed as hallucinations, so I prefer not to view them in any way spiritual. But I do agree with you, spiritual experiences should be a prerequisite for religiousness. Because at least in that person's mind, they've questioned, and seen proof, that god, or whoever exists. So many people don't question, and merely assume, without evidence. There's no validity either way, but still, like the saying goes "seeing is believing." Of coarse, from any logical person's standpoint, it should be seen, as I said before, as a hallucination and nothing else. EDIT: oops! Sorry for the double post!
It's not the hallucinations (if we're thinking visual or auditory) that makes the experience spiritual. It's feeling the presence of something else, a guider or whatever. A supreme being. It's a unique feeling. And while it indeed is nothing but the mind, that's what spiritualism is. It's not about BELIEVING IN GOD etc, but it's atoning to the power in your own mind that watches over you. Abrahamic religions are too much about believing in things outside your body (God and Jesus and whatnot) but imo religion should be about inward realisation of what reality means to you. And how you deal with it.
Might not make any sense but I'm doing my best here :(
well psychedellics is more about exploring your inner self to understand how you deal with the world.
though i kinda get what you're saying, the spiritual sides one has from psychedellics aren't a WORSHIP of oneself; rather the contrary. one is able to see ones faults as clear as day and understand that you have to struggle to come to peace with that.
well psychedellics is more about exploring your inner self to understand how you deal with the world.this is the reason they are such good catalysts for progress in psychotherapy. it also goes much deeper than that. psychedelics show us how we create our world.
I asked some people who've done shrooms, if they could get some, they didn't, but i'll ask em later. They said to me tho "don't eat any dairy products tho" and i'm like "why not?" "it could kill you" is that true? Certain foods could harm me if i eat them on shrooms? Didn't know that. But yea, if I can, I'll try and get some from them. I figure trying one or two couldn't hurt, so yea... still haven't decided but I reckon I very well may try some sometime soon, if I can get a job to buy some.No, they are morons.
^Sorry man, I missed that. I'll just blame it on drunk posting or something 8-).
It sounds really interesting though - do you ever make/extract anything yourself? Or do you have a guy who gets it for you?
The only problem with the drugs down here is that while the common ones (weed, ecstasy, amphetamines, cocaine) are plentiful, everything else is bloody hard to get.
Well, i know how to make cocaine, a friend here in Mexico told me all about cocaine and its making.
i really don´t like drugs, but i must consume it because my job, im an archaeologist, and i need to consume cocaine to don´t get asleep in the nocturnal explorations, in fact all the team consumes cocaine, because get asleep at the jungle at night is very dangerous.
Well, i know how to make cocaine, a friend here in Mexico told me all about cocaine and its making.
i really don´t like drugs, but i must consume it because my job, im an archaeologist, and i need to consume cocaine to don´t get asleep in the nocturnal explorations, in fact all the team consumes cocaine, because get asleep at the jungle at night is very dangerous.
I'm interested in seeing if people want more of a buzz or an experience out of their drug use.I haven't done many drugs, but I can answer this.
How many people here have actually done coke? I haven't personally - I tend to try to stick to pharmaceuticals and hallucinogenics (if weed counts, which i assume it does).
I'm interested in seeing if people want more of a buzz or an experience out of their drug use.
I see, but, are you able to not y'know, be permanently damaged in your mind from a bad trip? I wanna know if it's safe, basically. I always make sure before I try anything, y'know? Are the bad trips like "ah, that was crazy, but i'm fine now." or, afterward are you like, depressed and damaged? Mentally I mean, not physically. I know they make you laugh like hell, but I just wanna make sure I know what I'm getting myself into because I'm thinking of getting some.
All of my enjoyment of the drug stemmed from the thought that I could probably get more coke.
Heh Salvia has been a really mixed bag for me. The extracted leaf is NOT standardize, so you are really playing russian roulette with the potency. I have had 5x that sent me on a full trip with one good rip and 20x that didn't do anything more than the threshold/light effects. I personally just buy the cheapest extract and hope for the best. I don't use salvia anymore though, so good luck!
the fuck did you smoke? cannabis?Salvia doesn't last that long.
or was it about salvia?
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Oh shit. Yeah sorry forgot to clarify. Yeah it was cannibus. I never heard of anyone refering to salvia quantities as half-eights or rolling blunts with it. :shh:
I'm not a perpetual drug user (not to say I haven't tried some small stuff like pot though..), but I have no problem what so ever with people doing drugs (hey, everyone should be allowed to enjoy what they want, right?). So my question is this: Those of you who would readily call themselves active drug users, how do you feel about the public perception that all druggies are slow, dumb, lazy, etc? Do you think that drugs have really made you more lazy/whatever? Does it piss you off people think this way or do you honestly not give a shit?
Sorry if this question was asked already (I bet it has..) but I didn't feel like reading through the entire thread.
I'm not a perpetual drug user (not to say I haven't tried some small stuff like pot though..), but I have no problem what so ever with people doing drugs (hey, everyone should be allowed to enjoy what they want, right?). So my question is this: Those of you who would readily call themselves active drug users, how do you feel about the public perception that all druggies are slow, dumb, lazy, etc? Do you think that drugs have really made you more lazy/whatever? Does it piss you off people think this way or do you honestly not give a shit?
Sorry if this question was asked already (I bet it has..) but I didn't feel like reading through the entire thread.
Dunno why that would wierd you out. When I found out THC was used to treat glaucoma, and cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, I felt a strange sense of pride :gwa:
guys is buckley's cough mixture all right for dxm. i got two of those. i got one robitussin with dxm as the only ingredient, plus this other one called dimetap which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones.
anyway, if buckley's is all right i'll go over and buy some more but if not i will hunt out more robitussin cos i know it's all right.
what about that dimetap.
guys is buckley's cough mixture all right for dxm. i got two of those. i got one robitussin with dxm as the only ingredient, plus this other one called dimetap which i got cos it's got two other ingredients which i didn't recognise as the dangerous ones.You need to look at the active ingredients, because they're the ones that actually have an effect. If it has anything other than DXM, don't do it.
anyway, if buckley's is all right i'll go over and buy some more but if not i will hunt out more robitussin cos i know it's all right.
what about that dimetap.
You did not imagine it!
http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=410
Another pretty interesting read (http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fairenough/latimesE13.html) from the LA Times on weed (and it's use by cancer patients). Reminds me a bit of Weeds, hehe.best part of the article was when the son showed the mom how to use a carb rofl
best part of the article was when the son showed the mom how to use a carb rofl
Devnore, please dont EVER use copper or tin foil (or a plastic pen for that matter). You can get a bong about as high as that coke bottle for 9$ at most head shops. You'll save more weed, and will have better tasting, cleaner hits.That's actually no very true. YES, you can get cheap pipes and bowls, but, I've mastered the art of making bowls out of tin foil. You need to make sure the tin foil you are using has NO non slip shit all over it. Get the old style, which sometimes is a little bit harder to come by then and actual pipe.
she wasnt lying. she would definetly show you it if she had it. I doubt convenience store owners hide salvia in secret just for select customers. lol. I know 3 convenience stores around my area that sell 30x-40x-60x extracts. and theres one that doesnt but the guy quickly said no when i asked him if he had anyWell I know around here (Ohio) some head shops refer to Salvia as "incense" and you have to make NO mention of smoking it.
Bujiro: You are a master of killing your own brain cells. Smoking out of tin foil is VERY bad for you and will lead to brain diseases like parkinson's and alzheimer's. I used to also master the art of tinfoil and even the aluminum can, but they're both horribly unhealthy for you. And the plastic pen too. They will release hazardous particles when they're heated that you're going to be inhaling directly into your lungs. Even the absolute cheapest pipes (probably 2-3$ for a bat or one hitter) and bongs (5-6$) are made of proper materials for safe smoking. My fist high was on an aluminum foil pipe, so i know as well as you that they work, but its just plane toxic.Haha. I work with metal and steel all day, I know that health risks that can and will happen. I have plenty of glass and brass pieces to smoke from, i just because a goddamned Mcguyver when i smoke. Aluminum doesn't even melt until it reaches some where close to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit (I know this because i just made a shit load of aluminum and lead hammers for my shop). And Butane Lighters usually never reach past 600 degrees (regular bic lighters normally only get to about 435, Tested at work with Lead Heat Markers, ask me more about them and I'll go into detail).
Also, if you don't like smoking from a cigarette, try to smoke from a bowl or pipe, because smoking from a cig always makes me nauseus.
Next time you smoke marijuana, just take a few puffs and sit back and listen to some music, you will find it to be very relaxing.
Then from that start working up your dose, but just like any drug, start slow.
Haha. I work with metal and steel all day, I know that health risks that can and will happen. I have plenty of glass and brass pieces to smoke from, i just because a goddamned Mcguyver when i smoke. Aluminum doesn't even melt until it reaches some where close to 1200 degrees Fahrenheit (I know this because i just made a shit load of aluminum and lead hammers for my shop). And Butane Lighters usually never reach past 600 degrees (regular bic lighters normally only get to about 435, Tested at work with Lead Heat Markers, ask me more about them and I'll go into detail).
Aluminum Foil with plastic shit, non stick shit, wax paper, ect, is VERY hazardous to smoke out of, because that shit burns up very quickly and you will be inhaling it strait to the lungs, that's why i said old style tin foil (its hard to find, but they still make non stick type that are coated with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING).
I understand your concern, though, and I'm not trying to talk you down or anything, but I work around metal all day long so I kind of have an idea of what I'm talking about in this regard.
When it comes to smoking out of pop cans, i have never tried because of the fact that I do not drink soda, its bad for you, lawls.
Doesn't have to hit the melting point to release hazardous particles, and any sort of scraping/scratches/tears will increase this. There's a reason they dont sell aluminum / plastic pipes. If you have access to metals you should be able to make a very simple steel or copper bat or pipe. Even someone without your knowledge of metals could easily buy a metal tube with a large opening at one side, and put a screen in it to make it a bat, or put a bend in it and make it a pipe. With your skills I'm sure you could could make a bong out of aluminum, and just make the stem out of a steel tube.Oh no, I would never use anything from my shop to smoke out of at all, period. 99% of that stuff was cut with while coolants were being used on them, and coolants are PROVEN to cause kidney failure just by absorption through the skin (by small cuts, ect ect). Hazardous vapors in kitchen grade aluminum are far to low to cause any damage at all, the grade of alloy they use on cans is much to refined for anything long term effects. the only things that could cause any kind of "damage" would be the ink on the outer part of the can.
When it comes to making pipes, most people usually only have house hold equipment, so i doubt they are going to run out to home depot or forest city and purchase metal piping just to smoke.
Yeah, this is good advice. If your friends are more experienced (and decent cooks) get them to try to make cakes, rissoles, brownies, tea (with MJ butter) or something similar. If they're crap at cooking try Leary Biscuits (http://www.thestonerscookbook.com/recipe.php?id=85), which are easy and work fairly well if you've got weed to spare.
The important thing is just to start slow - you sound like you got way too high which was probably no fault of your own, just keep it in mind if you try it again. I noticed a lot of similar feelings to what you felt when I'm really high so take that as you'd like.
Uh, you do know that putting it in baked goods actually INCREASES the potency of thc. Not really the best advice to someone who is first starting.
Smoke a joint or blunt one day. and the next day eat a weed brownie that's actually prepared correctly. Post your results.
That was a pretty interesting read doktormartini.theres a lot of people here who actually like.. dip their shrooms in melted chocolate because they cant handle the flavor of the mushrooms straight up heh
I know a few people that like to eat chocolate and mushrooms together, they do believe it affects the trip in a very positive way and I believe it. I always feel pretty good about an hour or two after consuming chocolate, and I've considered chocolate a psychoactive for a while now.
That was a pretty interesting read doktormartini.Well the book talks about the chemicals in chocolate. It says the cacao plant is the only other plant known to have Cannabinoids in it. There is also Anandamide in chocolate which gives you the feeling of Bliss.
I know a few people that like to eat chocolate and mushrooms together, they do believe it affects the trip in a very positive way and I believe it. I always feel pretty good about an hour or two after consuming chocolate, and I've considered chocolate a psychoactive for a while now.
one where you get high and feel great and come down and feel like shitAs opposed to the very few substances that make you feel like this? Most drugs don't have a bad comedown at all.
Edit: Haha, remember when I used to be an anti-drug faggot and now I'm posting stuff like this! I still don't do drugs though and probably will never do them.I have a lot of friends who are very anti-drug but know a lot of shit about dopamine and serotonin and how certain drugs affect you. I don't think this is a big deal :/
As opposed to the very few substances that make you feel like this? Most drugs don't have a bad comedown at all.I guess I was referring to the hard drugs like meth, cocaine, and heroin where you feel like shit until you get high again (Cause you are addicted).
fun things to do on acid:
- touch
- taste
- smell
- see
- hear
Uh, you do know that putting it in baked goods actually INCREASES the potency of thc. Not really the best advice to someone who is first starting.
fun things to do on acid:
- touch
- taste
- smell
- see
- hear
Ok so I got high 2 times after my first time and I still gotta say I'm quite disappointed. Sure I had some interesting experiences (we were walking down the road and there were suddenly no cars in view, I thought they had all turned invisible and was afraid to cross the road thinking that I might get hit) but in all truth it's not something I would do on a daily basis. These two times I got high was one night after the other and the effects were still not as great as my first experience. All I can say is that my hearing slightly changed, I was saying stupid things, and my memory was a bit off. As for how I felt... well I felt quite normal except for the few instances where I would feel a little numb sometimes. I'm wondering now, before I do this yet another time... am I really getting the full experience from this stuff?
Next time we are gona bring brownies to a movie so I could test that Fatboy #4s theory if it is more potent.
Probably not - it doesn't sound like you got good weed. Definitely try the brownies at the movies thing, I find being high at the cinemas a pretty awesome experience usually. Remember the brownies take about an hour to kick in (at least for me) usually, so have a break outside and eat them before you go buy your tickets.
Also the codeine was alright in the end. I felt good and nice for a little while (a bit like diazepam) but I felt pretty nauseous towards the end. I'm a science retard so I'm not gonna try it again for a while in case I'm not extracting the paracetamol properly - but I'll keep practicing the technique in my head at least.
this is interesting because i can't watch movies high. i end up not paying attention and becoming unable to connect plot elements in any meaningful way. personally i would consider actually going out to see a movie blazed a waste of money for a ticket!whaaat
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watching movies high is the best way to spend the high imo
cooking imo
whaaat
watching movies high is the best way to spend the high imo
I heard nicotine + DXM is bad, has anyone else noticed this? I'm not a big smoker nowadays but I do enjoy a few at night, and I wanna know whether I should forego having a few Davidoffs when I try a slightly higher dose of DXM.
"Is this really what I want? Is this what relationships are like? Man, people in love are fucking crazy."
hahaha so getting high makes you guys OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE and want to TALK ON INTERWEB? Oh and play vidcons
I ask myself that when I'm sober.
FUCK NO! I was caught in a sticky situation. Back when I was smoking everyday my philosophy was "Why do everything sober when you can do everything high?" ....and then I found the answer. haha.yeah this is a really easy trap to fall into
..."Why do everything sober when you can do everything high?"...
what is the general public opinion on mixing buckley's cough mixture with fruit juices to make it palatable
Cmon guys, this topic is all about taking/finding drugs, aren't you going to talk about your experiences seeing God and all that
heh who told you that goat your mom? square
perhaps if i boil buckley's cough mixture it will be better.
just take the fucking pill form and stop bitching about how bad the syrup tastes. seriously.
by the way, DXM can make your eyeballs bleed
hell sell them oregano or catnipive sold both as weed by the way. funny shit let me tell you.
they'll probably come back to you begging for more.
got some robitussin in glasgow! the guy was pretty suspicious of me buying four bottles, but he didn't do nothin' bout it.I have some info: it is stupidly expensive.
i also got salvia x40 extract. i've been reading about it, but any suggestions or info you guys have would be cool if you haven't already posted it.
This is going to sound pretty stupid, but what's the best method for taking powdered or resin extracts? If I wanted to smoke them, would mixing them with say, tobacco or cannabis work? I've just never actually used an extract before.
I've never used an extract before either. Usually, one of us scrapes the resin out and turns it into a nice, smokable resin ball. Don't know if you've ever tried that. Boiling a piece could also get a decent amount of resin. Sorry if this doesn't answer your question, but these are alternative methods.
I live in Canada where Salvia is readily available, thing is i cant find it... anybody know where to look?
Also i have stuff to make a nice grav bong or a Vaporizer style bong... what is more effective for weed?
i've never smoked from a vaporizer, however, i hear those are the best things to smoke out of. they give you a "cleaner" high from what i've read. but i'll tell you the best thing to do if you wanna get really high. don't smoke for about a week and then buy an eighth of the best crip you can find and roll a blunt with it. if you can manage to not smoke for that long, you will get fucking ripped. it may seem like a waste, but you can actually start tripping if you do. not like visual hallucinations, but it's more sensory and auditory. try this out and tell me how it goes.
Drugs are for no hopers who don't want to achieve anything in life.
'Nuff said.
I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.I used to be like you. Then I realized drugs aren't that bad (well, obviously depending on which ones). I use to go around saying shit like fuck drugs...then I "woke up." I don't do drugs and probably never will...but people can function normal lives taking drugs every once in awhile let them do their thing.
I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.Hi I'm Lars. I like to have a psychedellic experience every 2nd or 3rd month. At max I use drugs twice a month, but those are rare and extreme cases, and it includes weed. How does that fit with your stereotype?
I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
I'm not trolling by any means, I just think its kind of sad that you think its some kind of achievement that you are constantly high all the time. I see no merit in wasting time and money off my face.
I really don't see the point in any of you getting so high and mighty just because of my opinion.
Drugs are for no hopers who don't want to achieve anything in life.
Okay.
I agree in saying I was too general in my post.
I just don't agree with excessive use of drugs and I do realise that what I said could be taken the wrong way because I didn't say enough to clarify what I said... That and I kind of wanted to get a reaction.
But I just believe that Drugs in general are a waste of life. Only because of events/experiences that have been through drugs.
I just don't agree with excessive use of drugsWhy? And on what basis do you determine the excessiveness of use?
But I just believe that Drugs in general are a waste of life. Only because of events/experiences that have been through drugs.
You still aren't really providing any strong justification for your beliefs.
Why? And on what basis do you determine the excessiveness of use?
Such as? Do you believe all drugs should then be lumped together and treated simply as 'drugs' and without any discrimination between them? Do you throw out any positive experiences that have occurred as the result of drug use?
Please, expand.
jeff, i am going to mail you a blunt so you can chillax.I have been told I go absolutely quiet when I am high, but I have some kind of unnatural resistance to marijuana, which is the only reason I don't do it regularly.
OK I'd like to share a story.
I bought an eighth of weed at a party two weeks ago and the two weeks following I was house-sitting... so I was blazing ALL the time because I'd just have people over and they'd be like "Hey! Let's blaze!"
At the end of the two weeks I was so freaking sick of marijuana... and I only had a little bit left so I decided to just use the rest of it to get rid of it.
Well, while smoking it I realized there was a lot more than I thought.
I just decided to lay low and go on the computer. I created a system so I could eat from a bag of chips, drink some diet pepsi (yuck), type, laugh, and wipe my fingers on a towel (to get rid of chip residue). ... It was really difficult ok.
Anyway here's the weird thing:
I was so incredibly stoned I ACTUALLY thought I was going to die if I went to sleep. I thought I would be the first (OK maybe second) person to die from a marijuana overdose. Even though I really didn't have THAT much (two decent-sized pipe bowls)
In addition to that, I kept getting VERY strange sensations. See, I usually sit like a freak. Often when I'm sitting in my computer chair I sit on my knees. At this time, if I lifted my butt off of my knees slightly, flexing my "quads" or w/e the hell they're called, I was almost having orgasms from my knees!! WTF!?
Later when I was like "OK I'll probably die in my sleep but w/e I'm tired..." I went to bed. I slept on my stomach. Here's another very peculiar occurrence: I could feel a sensation in the front of my brain reverberating that was DIRECTLY connected to this reverberating almost-orgasmic feeling on the bottom of my penis head.
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:)
because saying that and then not giving any reasons why is helpful.
Because posting without reading previous posts may result in an accidental moronic statement. It's obviously a joke...Actually, I've heard a number of people hold that it is actually true, so I'm not so keen as to dismiss it entirely. However, I'd obviously need some evidence otherwise.
Fatboy's answer was true, but don't let it confuse you, because you're asking about something different.
When smoking chemical extracts in the form of powder/crystals/resin, the method depends on what you are smoking and the temperatures required. I assume you are talking about salvia extract, in which case the easiest method is to load the bowl of your bong or handpipe with tobacco or weed (some headshops will give you salvia leaf with your extract to use for this purpose) and then add the dose of extract on top.
Most other extracts and freebases, such as DMT, require the use of a crackpipe, which is any pipe that allows an indirect flame to be applied to the substance.
You don't need to scrape or boil your piece to smoke the accumulated resin. To get the resin in the bowl, simply apply a steady flame for the duration of a long hit. You can also smoke the resin lining the chamber of a handpipe (as long as it's not a waterpipe) by taking a crack lighter (one with an adjustable flame, like the kind they give you at circle k for buying two packs of cigs) and taking the hit through the carburetor and covering the bowl with your finger.
both of these methods will involve breathing butane fumes, but it comes with the territory if you're smoking hippie crack.
In America at least, salvia is purchased at stores which sell tobacco and related equipment. These are normally called Smoke Shops or Head Shops.
Taliban takes high cover
Can’t smoke ’em out? Troops struggle with 10-foot Afghan marijuana plants
IMAGE: Soldier and marijuana forest
OTTAWA - Canadian troops fighting Taliban militants in Afghanistan have stumbled across an unexpected and potent enemy — almost impenetrable forests of 10-foot-tall marijuana plants.
Gen. Rick Hillier, chief of the Canadian defense staff, said Thursday that Taliban fighters were using the forests as cover. In response, the crew of at least one armored car had camouflaged their vehicle with marijuana.
"The challenge is that marijuana plants absorb energy, heat very readily. It's very difficult to penetrate with thermal devices ... and as a result you really have to be careful that the Taliban don't dodge in and out of those marijuana forests," he said in a speech in Ottawa.
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"We tried burning them with white phosphorus — it didn't work. We tried burning them with diesel — it didn't work. The plants are so full of water right now ... that we simply couldn't burn them," he said.
Even successful incineration had its drawbacks.
"A couple of brown plants on the edges of some of those (forests) did catch on fire. But a section of soldiers that was downwind from that had some ill effects and decided that was probably not the right course of action," Hillier said dryly.
One soldier told him later: "Sir, three years ago before I joined the army, I never thought I'd say 'That damn marijuana.'"
Hey guys, so I'm sort of wanting to try something that will give me more visuel hallucinations rather then the whole auditory and stuff that weed gives you. I was wondering if someone could suggest a good beginner hallucinagen? And also, is it true that Shrooms contain penosillin?(Or howveer it's spelt??) and that if you're allergic you shouldn't take them?Shrooms do not contain penicillin, no.
Thanks loads!
"psilocybe cubensis" I'm guessing this is the active ingrediant in shrooms?Psilocyibe cubensin is the species. The main psychoactive is called psilocybin. There's two more I think but it's generally psilocybin that's counted as the psychoactive ingredient.
And I've already tried salvia, I got nothing from it... only twice has it thrown me into an insane fit of laughter unlike weed or booze or anything... wont lie it was pretty sweet lol
But it's never done anything more for me. Any other things that wont get me all nervous? The thought of taking lsd frankly scares me a tad.
has anyone done salvia divinorum
it's a type of sage that has unique psychoactive properties, but no biological risk at all. ideally, the only way you can have a problem with it is if you have a bad trip but if you've got a friend to watch over you and make sure the environment stays calm that isn't a problem. I'd like to try it but I've already said why I can't in the woym thread (this is where the IDEALLY comes into effect; some people have bad experiences with it, but this is the case with nearly every drug and probably every hallucinogenic)
It sounds pretty cool though, so I'd like to hear someone's experience with it. my friend had a cool story about his trip on it, I'll add it to this post tomorrow maybe
haha, I expected that to be some binaural beat shit
some kind of unnatural resistance to marijuanathat's not rare at all man
That said, shrooms are generally a nice first trip drug. Although I would recommend 2c-b for the first one because it's a very "nice" drug. It kind of cuddles with you. Other drugs can be far less friendly.
A few friends of mine tried Salvia, and nothing happened. Where I live they sell it convenience stores, it supposedly sucks.
Well heres the entire story since you claimed you wanted to hear about an experience with it:
You have to be 18 to buy it but the guy at the store near where I live barely understands english, so my friends bought some and I sat out while they smoked it. According to them nothing happened, waste of money imo.
that's not rare at all manNice to know, but it still sucks.
Brownies Jeff. You may be resistant to it, but I'm sure an ample supply of brownies would be enough to overpower your resistance.Yeah WC was talking about this as well. I will have to try that out sometime. It probably won't be soon. Marijuana in Jacksonville and around UCF is ridiculously expensive because everyone here things marijuana is some sort of HARD DRUG GOTTA BE BADASS AND SMOKE WEED. Well people in Florida are generally stupid, but at home my dad would be like WHY ARE YOU BAKING? And at school it is even more expensive.
2c-b, whats that like? I think I've heard about it somewhere.... but I'm in Canada.... And I really don't think I'd be able to find it here =s. And I've thought of trying shrooms... but I always worry about having a bad trip and jumping off the roof or something lol.
I love Amsterdam, and so does everyone who's ever been here..
Isn't GHB exactly like being drunk?
Why take it?
actually, GHB (Georgia HomeBoy) is what dudes slip into girls' drinks at the bar so they can rape them. i think it's an animal tranquilizer, isn't it? In any case, it fucks you up miserably.
Yeah WC was talking about this as well. I will have to try that out sometime. It probably won't be soon. Marijuana in Jacksonville and around UCF is ridiculously expensive because everyone here things marijuana is some sort of HARD DRUG GOTTA BE BADASS AND SMOKE WEED. Well people in Florida are generally stupid, but at home my dad would be like WHY ARE YOU BAKING? And at school it is even more expensive.
i really don't understand the appeal of xanax. i've seen people do some really stupid shit while under its influence. of course, it makes you feel very relaxed, but my experience with it made me forget 99% of my evening, which is kind of scary. i hate waking up wondering if i offended someone or fucked some shit up the night before. furthermore, it pisses me off when i hang out with a friend only to find out they were "xannied out" and don't remember shit we did or talked about. it's like 50 first dates, except intentional.
actually, GHB (Georgia HomeBoy) is what dudes slip into girls' drinks at the bar so they can rape them. i think it's an animal tranquilizer, isn't it? In any case, it fucks you up miserably.
you get high what kind of question is thatHey, to be fair
Just out of curiousity, what are the effects of taking pot without heating it in any way? Has anyone done this?
Digesting it raw won't get you as high as if you cooked it (and you'd have to cook it with something like butter for the THC to be released into). Considering cooking it doesn't get you the high-per-gram that smoking it does, eating it raw will be even less than that. It's also very chewy :xOhh ok...nice info to know. I was just curious (no raw marijuana won't be part of my diet although I do eat hemp seeds).
Digesting it raw won't get you as high as if you cooked it (and you'd have to cook it with something like butter for the THC to be released into). Considering cooking it doesn't get you the high-per-gram that smoking it does, eating it raw will be even less than that. It's also very chewy :x
i will be trying GHB soon, you drink a shot of it, or something, and it makes you really laughy sociable and kid-like.sounds like...ALCOHOL?!?!?!
sounds like fun!
sounds like...ALCOHOL?!?!?!
seriously, if you're looking for those effects, go get drunk.
people reccomend me good music to listen to high (on weed). this is important.
I imagine you just greened out, it happens. As far as smoking Naproxen, that may be one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Ever. Inhaling something that was manufactured to be taken ORALLY is a bad idea. You are getting the active ingredient, binders, waxes, and a slew of other things that become god knows what when they combust. On top of that, why would anyone believe that Naproxen would make the weed stronger? Has taking Tylenol/Aspirin/Naproxen or any other OTC pain aid ever given you any narcotic effect? Probably not.
-_-
Guys . . .
I took a few hits from a GravBong there this weekend. on an empty stomach and i Greened out.
I find later that they used half snow to make it ice cold, aaand they added a pinch of Anaprox as my stupid friend bought it thinking it would have a stronger effect to it . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naproxen this is Anaprox and what it does. im trying to burn some i have from when i popped my shoulder out of place, but they dont seem to hardy even smoke :/
Was the reason i Greened out due to empty stomach , the anaprox or both. do you think that the anaprox additive would have any adverse effects?
i'm also in the process of making a discrete bong out of some aluminum sheeting and copper tubing i have kicking around
people reccomend me good music to listen to high (on weed). this is important.
examples of good songs:
da art of storytelling part 2 by outkast (amazing)
paper planes by M.I.A. (good too)
I wish I could get my hands on 2C-B. Too bad the RC scene is pretty hush hush nowdays, but I can understand why. This makes finding a reliable source (non U.S.) really really hard. :(Haven't tried that no, only did 5-meo-DiPT and 2c-b of the research chemicals. If it's anything like 5-meo-dipt though, you should be very prepared. It was the toughest trip I ever had, borderline bad. It was a real struggle, but still pretty amazing.
I did get to try 4-HO-DiPT once though. Out of curiousity, Lars, have you ever tried this? You seem the most likely person here. If so, what did you think?
Yea, I don't see the thrill in GHB. Can't take it alone or you could pass out and never wake up, can't take it with friends or you'll wake up with several penises drawn on your face.Seeing as GHB is used as sleeping medicine, passing out is the medical point of GHB. It's not very dangerous except when mixed with alcohol or taken in liquid form (it's typical the salt gathers and the bottom and your final hit of GHB just might be as big as the total you've taken all night).
2c-b, whats that like?Taken nasally, it's kind of like LSD with the duration cut in half, (every part is cut in half), with maybe one fifth the mindfuck and double the visual (considering a nasal 2c-b dose of 15-20mg versus an LSD dose of 150-200micro). And then add a euphoric edge and a horrible coming-up.
I like to listen to something either really chill or really heavy so keep that in mind.BASICALLY THIS but also:
Chill:
Boards of Canada-Twoism
Explosions in the Sky-The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place
The Gathering-Home
Gregor Samsa-55:12
Jesu-Lifeline
Mogwai-Happy Songs for Happy People
Slowdive-Souvlaki
Heavy:
Acid Bath-Pagan Terrorism Tactics
Boris-Amplifier Worship
Electric Wizard-Come My Fanatics
Isis-Mosquito Control EP
Melvins-Houdini
Pig Destroyer-Prowler in the Yard
YOB-Elaborations of Carbon
Yes <3
BASICALLY THIS but also:
electric wizard - electric wizard because of the song "mountains of mars"
boris with michio kurihara - rainbow
boris - feedbacker and flood
dead meadow - shivering king and others
bardo pond - amanita and lapsed
boards of canada - the campfire headphase
om - conference of the birds and pilgrimage
sleep - dopesmoker
amp - astralmoonbeamprojections
Ive never heard of GHB, so i wont go into it, but i recently started to do alot of MDMA (Pure extasy) and cocaine.
I smoked week when i was a kid and i dont see why you would want to do somthing that makes u lazy as hell hungry as hell thirsty as hell and sleepy as hell. lol
Seriously dude, Electric Wizard-Electric Wizard is WAY underrated. While the Black Sabbath influences are pretty thick, many of the songs laid the foundation of their future sound . Om is pretty great too (I only have Variations on a Theme) but I really have to be in the mood for them.Yeah that first CD is a lot of fun. It is totally Sabbathy but that's cool, it's just easier to listen to than the rest of Electric Wizard for better or for worse. I like it anyway, and Mountains of Mars is unreal.
If Canada's anything like the UK for salvia, your best option is the internet, sex shops and music festivals. For some reason, it is hardly sold in smoking shops despite its legal status.
I've tried Divenorum, so cannot speak comparatively in regards to A, but can say you won't be going wrong by choosing it.
Salvia's Wiki page shows 8mg of 20x for "sale" at 5.99+tx but i think its ontario most likely. if anyone has info on where in canada to legally buy it... tell me
also Grav-bong , pipe, or reg bong ? (ive did a shitty 10x hit from a grav bong but im wondering the best way . . .)
Anyone ever tried 'candy-flipping' LSD? (taking LSD and then ecstasy) Supposedly it results in a really good trip.
yup. i actually had the time of my life on it, the first time I done it, here we call it a kitty-trip.
1/2 g of md, 3 200mg tabs (called DaVincis)
then, a tune called Fly by Zion Train (wickid soundsystem/ artist group) came on, and it made life.
whats the most drugs you guys have done at once?
mine was back last october, i got to a party, already drank 5 ciders, and a 700 pot of shrooms between 3, then double dropped acid of 250mg (liquid minty lsd), 1 1/2 grams of ketamin , 2 'versarchi' pills, few lines of mdma, 3/4 hits on a DMT pipe, and to top it off lots of nos. Not all at once, obviously, spaced throughout the day!
and it was a nice day.
thats so awesome if i knew a guy like that i'd follow him everywhere like a deadhead.
Cock Ver 10 is mostly green but I dunno there's some yellow to the right and blue and red - the end is fucking crazy, I didn't think it would be because it sounds so chaoticwow you really have this trolling drug users thing down
wow you really have this trolling drug users thing down
you're both right, i meant ug..
and, How We Became Fire, they arent claims, its real. I go to alot of free parties around england.
Haha, got a wee bit confused...
Early morning, and mg made senese...
What does ug actually stand for?
it isn't unheard of at all for people to take milligram doses of lsd. if i know the dosage of what i'm taking (only about 50% of the time) then i like to take 400-500ug. People who are really really experienced in psychedelics can take 1500ug, or 1.5mg.
ken kesey and his crew would reportedly take up to 2mg
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I completely believe your claims now that the dosage was clarified. I didn't believe you taking it in the hundreds of milligrams. My bad.
you know it..
have none of you guys tried mixing drugs then?
Thats alright mate, I wouldnt of believed it if I'd read what I'd put, haha; but yeah, I've corrected it now Smile
this weekend we had some winner lines of ketamine/ speed/ mdma; went down a treat!
BIG NEWS!!!make them into tea to get full effects and add all the sugar in the world unless you like drinking pisswater
last night, i got really drunk and bought a quarter ounce of amanita muscaria
i had never planned on ever being able to actually get my hands on this shit but it just kinda crossed my path
i wanted to upload photos but my camera is broken :(
i'm gonna get super like mario with my aweseome mushrooms
fireballz
BIG NEWS!!!
last night, i got really drunk and bought a quarter ounce of amanita muscaria
i had never planned on ever being able to actually get my hands on this shit but it just kinda crossed my path
i wanted to upload photos but my camera is broken :(
i'm gonna get super like mario with my aweseome mushrooms
fireballz
Also... finally got my San Pedro. Cooking it down took a long long. Once I had about 250 ml worth I divided it into three glasses. I knew that is was supposed to taste bad but man... MAN. It is honestly the most horrid taste I have ever experienced in my mouth. I can't even explain it, the taste just screams bad. Overall it was worth it though. I had to ride out about 1 1/2-2 hours sickness until the trip came on. It took damn near 4 hours before it was completely in gear. Kinda felt like... a mix of amphetamines and mushrooms but with more subtle visuals and wierd mindfucks. My dose was pretty low too (50g dried) so I am kinda unsure if I want to try a higher dose.god I love San Pedro cacti so much
I have smoked pot habitually for the last year or so, i've smoked catnip, done acid, ecstasy, and shrooms. I've also smoke celvia (i dont know how its spelt) and that shit is legal for some reason. (2 minute crazy hallucinogenic trip) my girlfriend tried it and she thought the house was eating her and everything inside. I smoke and I drink. Acid, if you take one hit, is like being extremely stoned for hours. you dont hallucinate, you just have an amazing body and mind euphoric buzz. I took half an eighth of shrooms and i just sat in bed with my girlfriend geeking out because the ceiling was melting and turning colors.holy shit what the fuck are you talking about.
Acid, if you take one hit, is like being extremely stoned for hours. you dont hallucinate, you just have an amazing body and mind euphoric buzz.Maybe you're talking about one hit only but what do you mean you don't hallucinate from it?
Maybe you're talking about one hit only but what do you mean you don't hallucinate from it?
edit: I liked it better when this topic was hidden in questions and answers :(
Acid, if you take one hit, is like being extremely stoned for hours. you dont hallucinate, you just have an amazing body and mind euphoric buzz.
Yeah....drugs. I don't know, weed can help me relax and really enjoy music, but if i'm around people, i get paranoid and it just makes me think alot, and in the end all that thinking does is get me nowhere for nothing.
My question is: WTF of all things would you want to OD on cough/cold medicine to get yourself high? Sure it's legal and easy to get a hold of, but it tastes like shit and from what I've read can lead to some nasty side effects. Out of all the typical recreational drugs, I'd honestly want to stay away from DXM. Just wondering, maybe someone who's used DXM can explain.
Why are all indie rock related things like HEY LETS CUT AND PASTE THINGS FROM AN OLD NATURE JOURNALWere you high when you posted this??
is there some drug that causes these sorts of visualizations or what
also I definitely taste certain sounds
Edit: It's not always cut and pasted old pictures sometimes it's FRACTALLY GENERATED ORNATE VINE PATTERNS
Edit: And flowers and use of writing implements usually reserved for small childrens and/or kids goofing off at school (crayon magic marker pen and pencil etc.)
I have smoked pot habitually for the last year or so, i've smoked catnip, done acid, ecstasy, and shrooms. I've also smoke celvia (i dont know how its spelt) and that shit is legal for some reason. (2 minute crazy hallucinogenic trip) my girlfriend tried it and she thought the house was eating her and everything inside. I smoke and I drink. Acid, if you take one hit, is like being extremely stoned for hours. you dont hallucinate, you just have an amazing body and mind euphoric buzz. I took half an eighth of shrooms and i just sat in bed with my girlfriend geeking out because the ceiling was melting and turning colors.i'm never doing drugs again.
Were you high when you posted this??
The day 4/20 may be different, but does anyone here actually do the "smoke at 4:20" thing? I don't think I've met someone who actually schedules it then. Its mostly "hey, what time is it" "4:19" "well shit we better pack one up!" whenever I hear it mentioned.I know two dudes that are more or less nocturnal that wake and bake at 4:20 pm and then imbibe again at 4:20 am
Guys Im now Mcgyver of my friends. A friend cracked his glass pipe yesterday and today i was down there and bored so while he was getting food i took 3 empty coke cans some duct tape and a highlighter and made a Can on can with mid section water bottomed "bong" let me tell you it worked better than i thought it would and im quite proud of it. I now have ideas to make a 4 hosed hookah for us too!I've never seen a can bong, pics? I've only ever managed it with bottles.
Man im the Mcgyver high guy from How high lol !
You've probably gotten this question asked a billion times in here, and I know this may be a dumb question, but for those here who've tried pot, does drinking lots of water and cranberry juice, along with sitting in a hot steamed up room and sweating(in otherwords, the old piss and sweat routine), help to get thc out of your system at all? Or is it just bullshit? Because, my neighbor says he's done the same thing and passed, but someone else I know says her ex did not. I'm just wondering because I've been doing the same thing and am trying to get a job. And I'd like to be able to keep smoking while still doing my job. But, I'm wondering if all this effort will even make a difference.If anyone can give me some advice, that'd be great.You could smoke it after work. Whilst there are trace amounts of THC for a few days, the effects wear off after a couple of hours (or some sleep).
you know that juice that comes out your ass when you have a dookie at the door but hold it in and slowly fart it out? i recently started farting that juice on old rags and huffing it.man you sure are a funny guy marcus
lemme tell ya maaaaan, if you want to trip balls and see shit then you should try this. i've even coined the phrase dookin' to refer to this process and the euphoria it gives you is called dook-faced.
You could smoke it after work. Whilst there are trace amounts of THC for a few days, the effects wear off after a couple of hours (or some sleep).
labor unions and federal jobs do drug tests. as long as you don't work for a union or the government you're good.
You could do shrooms. Those show up as food poisoning. If you really have to get fucked up then try dookin' man it's awesome.
anyone know where to get some good blow, everyones shit sucks here
labor unions and federal jobs do drug tests. as long as you don't work for a union or the government you're good.A lot of businesses do them too, apparently. I was recently up for a job at an office and I thought I'd hold off on doing anything until I was sure if I'd have to take one or not, and while it turned out I didn't have to, my mom was surprised, because apparently every office job she's ever had made people take mandatory drug tests as part of the interviewing process. So yeah, you're probably right most of the time, but don't just assume if it's not a labor union or a federal job, there won't be one!
I've come to realize that asking random people online who probably have no idea where you live or the type of area you're in where to get drugs is pretty much pointless and in fact as lame as internet dating. lol. But yea, You could try hanging out at night clubs and hope to meet someone there. That's usually where people go to party after they've done some blow. But my advice to you is to try to find someone you can trust that can hook you up. I don't recommend ever buying off the streets. It's way too risky, not only because of the law, but especially around where I live there's some shady people. You also get jipped a lot more buying from the streets. Either try finding yourself a dealer or someone who can hook you up with a dealer.
thank you for this vital information, i will be sure to keep it in mind next time i am looking for cocaine on the internet. i was just kind of hoping someone could mail me it or something. how did you come about realizing this?I am certain you are posting whilst on Ket.
I am certain you are posting whilst on Ket.
So do you guys have any suggestions? I've done it once before with leaves and some 30x extract with four of us and only two tripped. So I'm prolly gonna need some pretty strong shit.
Also, I want to try to do it in a hookah. So should I just go to a local head shop and get some salvia leaves to sit at the bottom of the hookah bowl and lie the extract on top under the coal or would some hookah tobacco do just fine? I'm guessing it would taste alot better and make the smoke go down easier but some clarification would be great!!
ok So why did this place die?out of the game, bro
Those 2 grams of salvia came in after and my buddy bought another gram in NS i have to say we didnt get what we expected. I was expecting like super out of mind experience but what i got was some trippy feelings. We wasted some at first not using a butane lighter. but we searched the town for one at like 11pm and got one we finally got some effects but never really "broke through" it still is pretty great stuff though. and if it wasnt so concerned of getting V& or Copp'd id post a few pics of my smoking contraptions!
Where does one even go about getting LSD anyway? From what I hear, it's become a rare commodity these days. And I've certainly never ran into anyone who's below the age of 25-30 that's tried acid.
Sounds like you either got a weak product (it happens) or you aren't smoking it correctly. I will bring it up again YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT IN FOR A LONG TIME. Also went to my first rave last Saturday. Not anything like I was expecting. Seriously EVERYONE was on drugs. Everyone had drugs. Everyone was willing to sell you drugs. Tried some mind destroying ecstasy, found some 2C-I (not what I was expecting) and finally got a hold of some LSD after 5 long years. =D
This sounds depressing
America the land that doesn't really care about electronic music or raving at all and is just in it for the drugs (1) - that's why all we have is like Moby and the Crystal Method and they both suck a lot - and everyone else of note is probably on the Blade II soundtrack
1 - might apply to any subculture or just LIVING really but actually it's reassuring that nobody was really into disco and just wanted to do cocaine or whatever
cocaine silly boy
I want shrooms so fucking bad but I don't want to get shot in some redneck's cowfield when I'm lookin for em. I might just try where my mom keeps the horses one more time...
Man Ketamine is one of two drugs that I really want to try. Haven't came across it yet. How well does that mix with the speed? I've done a pretty moderate dose of DXM about 4 hours into a 300mg amphetamines run, and it wasn't really pleasant. Being dissociated while speeding made me feel really uncomfortable. The tail end was pretty chill but it wasn't really worth the severe, unpleasant mindfuck. I'm interested in hearing other peoples experience w/ the dissociate/stimulant combo. I haven't really seen a lot of info on it. From what I imagine though, it is a potentially dangerous combo as I believe it could induce Serotonin Syndrome. Just a warning.
Did a few lines of coke today :( and smoked some pretty decent mids. Beautiful start to this easter holiday.
oh apparently salvia is now illegal in the state of florida
oh, anyone got any reports to share on the 2c's? would be interested to hear others views. also DMT.
i had about 20 drinks (probably like 18 shots and two beers) last night and then i just started feeling SO FUCKING HORRIBLE i was sweating and shaking and puking. i had to take really deep slow breaths to keep myself calm and conscious which was really really difficultyeah its probably good that you're a smoker so that you know how to take emergency breaths and also how to slow yourself down and just get air into your lungs without upsetting your whole system (I'm assuming you've smoked multiple blunts in one sitting or a g-bong or whatever will get you enough smoke to get to the OH FUCK point)
Sounds like you either got a weak product (it happens) or you aren't smoking it correctly. I will bring it up again YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT IN FOR A LONG TIME. Also went to my first rave last Saturday. Not anything like I was expecting. Seriously EVERYONE was on drugs. Everyone had drugs. Everyone was willing to sell you drugs. Tried some mind destroying ecstasy, found some 2C-I (not what I was expecting) and finally got a hold of some LSD after 5 long years. =DI've been raving for about 3 years, are you UK based?
ugh I took mescaline for the first time in over a year last night. I drank about oh I dont know maybe 12-14 fl oz of the brew we made and I got really sick. I didn't vomit or anything but I was really uncomfortable and farting a lot all night, and I wasn't able to drink as much brew as I would have liked because we were diluting it with grapefruit juice (bad idea, go with orange juice, the flavor is much more powerful and its nice and sugary... so if you haven't eaten in like say 12-15 hours all that cactus juice + orange juice is like a meal almost)
but anyway the trip was sweet, listened to some pretty crazy music, frippertronics was really intense and so was kamkarha. All the undulations of everything was way more trippy than I have ever experienced, but I was feeling so shitty that I just wanted to go to sleep so overall it wasn't really that great of a trip.
Huh... way to interpret my post incorrectly. While I was very excited at what I was able to find, the music is the main reason most people go. Seriously, would anyone show up if it was just a bunch of people meeting in a silent warehouse? Probably not. There were a lot of popular electronica/trance/hardcore artists at this event. Honestly though, your post means little as you haven't contributed anything worthwhile to this thread since page one. We all know your stance towards drugs/users so please... just stay out of this thread. I hope you enjoy your trolling at any rate. =)
Heh me and my brother drank some the other night as well. I used 150g of dried material and boiled it down to probably 400ml. We both drank a cup. It came on slow and there were undeniable effects but it was just above threshold. I made a bath 3 times less material that was WAY stronger. I'm guessing the batch I had was really low in mescaline. Oh well, atleast I didn't get sick =(I think the main problem was my friend was a dumbass and forgot to buy orange juice, which can be mixed with cactus juice at a 1:1 ratio and there is no nasty cactus taste and thus you only have to drink like 30 fl oz over like a half an hour. Instead he bought grapefruit juice and raspberry-cranberry juice which does NOT mask the taste of cactus juice so I probably drank the equivilant of an entire bottle of fruit juice in about 45 minutes. I'm fairly convinced that this and the tequila that I put in the first glass was what made me sick. We still have 2 feet worth of cactus left so I wont make that mistake again.
i built this
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/2673301612_897f14c201.jpeg)
it's an air mattress pump turned vacuum powered bong
only problem is that it is TOO POWERFUL, something that will be fixed very quickly
THIS IS ALL I DO WITH MY LIFE
i have some more things i have made but no pictures of them here
I think the main problem was my friend was a dumbass and forgot to buy orange juice, which can be mixed with cactus juice at a 1:1 ratio and there is no nasty cactus taste and thus you only have to drink like 30 fl oz over like a half an hour. Instead he bought grapefruit juice and raspberry-cranberry juice which does NOT mask the taste of cactus juice so I probably drank the equivilant of an entire bottle of fruit juice in about 45 minutes. I'm fairly convinced that this and the tequila that I put in the first glass was what made me sick. We still have 2 feet worth of cactus left so I wont make that mistake again.
You are my long lost brother!one of my roommates used to do glass shelves and mirrors and shit so he has all these drill bits for going through glass
I made so many homemade bongs and stuff! one thats close to that is a 2l with a cpu fan in it pushin through to other side with sergical tubing. my best to date is a party bong that has 3 hoses and an ice try to keep it icy cool!
i don't know if i told you man but i was not able to get the cactus i bought to work. i took the first cutting, despined it, skinned it, cut out the core, chopped up the green part and froze it and blended with some water yielding about 32 oz of glop which i managed to slug down over like an HOUR. waited around for like 5 hours and nothing at all happened so i just smoked several bowls, got extremely fucking high and decided that i may have felt something but that i was probably just really baked. same story pretty much with the next cutting, used less water so i think that one was like 20 oz. gave up on the third and it eventually rotted so i threw it out. i don't know if i had the wrong species or just a very weak specimen or what. what do you recommend i do differently if i try this again?you're missing the most important step. Boiling the cactus pulp! (also helps to add some lemon or lime juice cause the citric acid helps make mescaline citrate which is much more palatable than mescaline sulfate which you'll get more of if you dont add the fruit juice) You will get no mescaline in the brew unless there is boiling. Also do not eat anything, only drink the resultant green broth.
www.alibongo.co.uk > my workplace, and an ideal palce to score salvia, and many other legal highs/ equipment! we deliver all over the world!Fuck, why aren't you guys coming to Leeds fest this year?
You are my long lost brother!
I made so many homemade bongs and stuff! one thats close to that is a 2l with a cpu fan in it pushin through to other side with sergical tubing. my best to date is a party bong that has 3 hoses and an ice try to keep it icy cool!
i dont think it had anything to do with smoking
im just a level headed guy so when i felt like i was going to black out i started trying things to keep my mind active. being so drunk, about the only thing i could actually do was breathe in rhythm. i felt glued to the ground, and my 110 pound friend had to shove my 160 pound ass into her car which she said was nasty because i was covered in sweat and spit and puke and dirt and blood
Fuck, why aren't you guys coming to Leeds fest this year?
Also, I've always wondered, are cannabis seeds legal still? Same question with mushroom spores which are really chuffing confusing.
What the fuck man, how are you still alive/not insane after you combined MARIJUANA and LSD, I mean, for the love of Ra,
I have no idea what they actually do to but I assume that even if they are CLOSE to alcohol, then f*ck, I want LSD :(
Acid has a chance (albeit very very low) of having a relapse
HPPD thofrom wikipedia: HPPD is distinct from flashbacks by reason of its relative permanence; while flashbacks are transient, HPPD is persistent. HPPD is a DSM-IV diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89.
Do any of you guys enjoy eating macdonalds after smoking marijuana??haha there was this one period where me and my friends would head down to mcd's right after finishing a gram. i'd always find myself dancing infront of the counter while the dude's trying to get my order. but yeah, that angus is awesomeee.
wc i was saying:sorry dude I dont know why I flipped, I must have been in one of my cranky as fuck bakes early in the morning on a bad day
i dont really believe in flashbacks either but there's still hppd which isl one potentially dangerous side of psychedellics
:(
this is what drugs are doing to you...........no its what shitty jobs and living with your parents do to you
:(
Is there any drug similar to acid (besides shrooms) that doesn't show up in drug tests forever after?I don't know about USA, but in Norway it is not procedural to test for 2c-x's. So 2c-b or 2c-i or 2c-e should be ok and I guess they're fairly acid-like. I, at least, prefer 2c-b to acid since acid can be such a confusing experience (which is kind of cool after it's over but can be pretty frustrating when you're on it!)
I mean acid is the one drug i'd actually do and i still can't do it!
"So, not like you can get mad at me cause you do it too" and she kinda just shut up there and then
If any of you are fluent in any Biology you'd know that the acid staying in your cerebral spinal fluid is a lie. Sure it stays there, for about a month then there's such little trace that it could be seen as a natural body development instead. If you hit acid regularly than it might have a better chance of showing up after a month or two. but its near unlikely to find it after 2 or 3 months since your last tab hit.yeah plus lysergic acid metabolites are SEROTONIN LOL
somebody listen to my music on drugs :(
I'm serious
if you do that let me know i dont live far from girlbones
huh i always thought it was spelled tuscon but im wrong!!!yeah but it's not really necessarily always about finding out shit you didnt know. it is more like appreciating that stuff. like there are a lot of things i know that at the same time do not have the significance or meaning that a drug-based realization would give them. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE but it's so far in the back of your mind it's easy to forget. i'm not saying this is all theyre for but you shouldnt be so dismissive just because you already knew the shit. like i said, it is about appreciating the shit you already thought you knew sometimes!
also doesnt it suck when you do drugs and everything you thought was SO SIGNIFICANT ends up being stupid shit you already knew.
WE ARE ALL...PEOPLE.
once I wrote some of that shit down and after the trip I read it and threw the paper away because it was just full of bullshit confucious quotes pretty much.
drugs are kind of dumb a lot of the time, I like the floatiness and the good vibes they give you tho.
somebody listen to my music on drugs :(
I'm serious
also doesnt it suck when you do drugs and everything you thought was SO SIGNIFICANT ends up being stupid shit you already knew.more often than not it is the other way around!!!!
I listened all the way to 68 and alot of them were pretty loud but it wasn't unpleasant I guess, you need more groovin' dog your shit ain't groovin enough
Also alot of them sounded the same so after about 20something I thought I was listening to the same song until 68
i took acid on thursday after schoolmadvillain is great on weed too
i took three hits of this sheet of 100 that my roomate bought. normally to start getting visuals on acid you have to take 2-3 hits but two of my friends took one hit from the sheet and said they had good visuals and some disassociation. when i took three i was expecting a pretty solid trip but damn i tripped PRETTY HARD
i went to the mall with my friends which was pretty intense because there were so many people and colors and THINGS to look at. what made it particularly crazy was hundreds of people talking at once. i bought a beer bong
after the mall i went home and started peaking and smoked a blunt with my roomate and his friend. i wanted to put on some music but the letters on my ipod kept randomly sliding to the bottom of the screen which made it pretty hard. i had my roomate put on madvillainy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madvillainy) for me which was absolutely insane on acid. while i was listening to it the skin and muscles on my arm looked like they were sliding/sagging off and that i was getting all sunken like a skeleton. it was a little scary but also waaaaay cool because it's the first time i've ever had an ACTUAL HALLUCINATION instead of just crazy kaleidoscope colors.
I brewed up ayahuasca the other week and had a bizarre old time, It's weird as hell that someone actually figured out how to make this shit centuries ago in the jungles of south america and then was like "hell yeah lets do this shit regularly".yeah dude, drinking san pedro brew is almost too much for me... I cant even imagine ayahuasca
edit: here's a hot tip, don't eat hard-shelled spicy tacos before doing this unless you enjoy rigid objects and hot shit up your nose
It never really gets to the point of being 'too much' IMO, it's not so much the smack-in-the-face "i'm tripping my face off" feeling that I got with San Pedro. It's more like a profound lucid dream with some of the most clear and bizarre visual and auditory hallucinations I've experienced since freebasing pure DMT.nah man I just meant actually drinking the shit haha
i am probably doing ecstasy this weekend. i will be with a big group of people whilst rollin to say the least.
please tell me about this drug/what to prepare for, tips on improving trip ETC ETC. thx :D
Okay, so I want to try smoking weed again to see if my body has stopped being crazy whenever I do it.
The main problem is I get extremely uncomfortable and quite anxious when I do it, but this never used to happen and I used to really enjoy it.
Has anyone had any similar experiences and can they offer me any help? Valium and stuff like that doesn't seem to help much in conjunction with it.
Ecstasy is going to leave you feeling like you just got off and are in suspended animation in that peaceful feeling after an orgasm, thats the best way I can describe it.
Basically what GR said as well as try to drink alot of Orange juice, I've heard from a few different people the Vitamins in it will bring back the trip so you can keep it for longer. I think weed does the same thing or something like it, so smoking while on it isn't necessarily a bad idea.
just a side note, make SURE you're wearing a condom when you take E, you will cum in ur jncos otherwisehahahahahaah oh my god I take it you're speaking from experience
todayi am gonna skmoke some mary jane and go to some planetarium presentation
its gonna be great. illsee venus in the night while baked
my girlfriend gave me a shitload of vics (i think they are actually Lortab. they are 7.5mg oxycodone) and i took a couple.
i am pretty fucked up
Man I'm really irritated I had to quit because my brother got florida's finest motherfucking DANK, STICKY, SEEDLESS shit its the one hit high stuff
my girlfriend gave me a shitload of vics (i think they are actually Lortab. they are 7.5mg oxycodone) and i took a couple.
i am pretty fucked up
Wooow
I could never drugs. Reason being, I'm shallow, and I don't want to mess up my appearance.
what does that even meani was gonna ask this too but i figured it had something to do with IMAGE
i was gonna ask this too but i figured it had something to do with IMAGE
"druggies are lame"
tho that's pretty arguable?
Depends on the drugs, for sure. Smoking marijuana will not make you ugly, doing mushrooms every month will not make you ugly, drinking ayahuasca and smoking DMT will not make you ugly. Snorting cocaine, smoking crack, and doing meth will make you ugly. Shooting heroin will make you ugly. Drinking alcohol will make you ugly.dunno man I know some realllllllllllyyy ugly as fuck potheads lol
you do realize that camel sells snus in like every gas station across the country lol
Also has anyone here tried snus? I ordered 3 cans from Sweden (mint, fig and original (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n71330829514720576059nx4.jpg)) and I love the shit. If you wanna quit smoking this is a good way to start!yeah I do SNUS about 50% of the times I get drunk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus
I ate 1.2 grams of Cubensis about 40 minutes ago. I'll report back in the morning! ;Pdried?
It's pretty chill and a great alternative to smoking. Smoking is pretty gay and works over short period of time whereas snus is like slowly smoking a cigarette over the course of 40 minutes or so. It's really great to watch flicks with too when your stomach is full (nothing beats making a huge dinner, having dessert and then having snus while you chill watching a movie.............)
i dont know if i have said this already on gw but i am totally burned out
naming weed is stupid dude. people sell you weed and say shit like "this is hornberry kush" or "plaid lemons" or whatever but it means nothing. any idiot can just make up a name for weed whenever they feel like its not any way to identify weed. ive seen no less than 10 completely different strains identified as "white widow", some were just average buds and some weren't even very "white"! white widow is supposed to generally hairless and COVERED in crystals (making them "white"). but anyways yeah if you go to a club obviously there are more selections and they are more strict with naming strains.
where are you from canada i guess?
somebody explain to me where little kids are gettin all the druges
somebody explain to me where little kids are gettin all the drugesi can't walk to the local mcdonalds without finding someone approaching and saying HERE IS SOME DRUGES
you mean where the users get it or where the dealers get it?I've got 10 dollars down that all your weed in norway comes from holland and has no connection to organized crime
'cause the second is the answer to the first and the answer to the second varies a lot but when it comes to chronic i guess a lot of people grow shit themselves or know someone who grow it on a larger scale.
from my experience at least, illegal criminal bands are about as often involved as they aren't. so i'd say 50% comes from non-organized crime people growing and having someone sell it or selling it themselves and 50% comes from large mafia-owned plantations around.
that's pretty much norway though so idk
Weed gives me much unwanted anxiety out of fucking nowhere, so I slowed down since April. This month I've only toked up once or twice. When it comes to mixing with alcohol, I never toke before I drink and I don't toke while I'm drinking. I wait till I am nice and drunk for a while then smoke a J or whatever. At that point it settles me down and calms my nerves and feels very good.
This happened to me the last few months, I covered it in the last few pages. I dunno what happened but eventually I started smoking while drinking less, tapering up to a level where I can do it sober.
If you enjoy it and wanna keep doing it just slowly bring it back and try to chill and know you'll be okay, it tends to help me. Or focus on talking to your mates or playing a game or something to take your mind off the anxiety and it'll go away fairly quickly and you can try to relax and enjoy it.
If that doesn't work I guess just don't smoke for a while, this helped me also.
goldenratio he is one of my best friends though. Its just when hes high
the shuttle launch? fuck that'd be pretty amazing to see.it's a night launch too!
Hey does anyone here mix tobacco with their weed?That's how I roll my j's, but bluntz are the way to go if there's 3+ people
I know this has probably been mentioned a dozen times in this thread but I don't remember anything about it. I had a bag of I guess its called "Chantwell" I can't really read the dude's handwriting.
But its burning pretty well and is a little less harsher on my throat with the tobacco.
whats the best & cheapest way to clean out a pipe. my shit needs a cleaning, and im not paperclipping it. boiling in water sucks how do you clean a pipe good??
hey i like to throughly research a drug before i start taking what is wrong with that?
Say goodbye to 2 family sized bags of tortilla chips and half a jar of salsa
Assembly Bill 390 would charge cannabis wholesalers $5,000 initially and $2,500 annually for the right to distribute weed.
Retail outlets would pay fees of $50 per ounce of cannabis to generate revenue for drug education programs statewide.
The bill would prohibit cannabis near schools. It also would ban smoking it in public places or growing it in public view.
Before California could sell marijuana openly, however, it would have to persuade the federal government to alter its prohibition on pot.
How did you manage this? I usually run out of salsa long before chips.
Fuck why do I live on the other side of Americayou would have to wait approx. 6 years anyway.
Alternate every other chip with salsa, use salsa sparingly etc
he asked about it dumby
didn't say anything about a bong just asked about weed in general. you don't really want to start this...
smoke weed to blot out the memories of going down on a grandma kids!
also i really hate this weird superiority complex you guys seem to have about HEH...DOESNT KNOW WEED FACTS which is just awful.
smoke weed to blot out the memories of going down on a grandma kids!
also ive done work in homes of young drug abusers (often weed) who basically were beyond help and spent days at a time staring in to space and who no longer had any abilities to function in society.
you shouldn't be in a care home in your 20s
also ive done work in homes of young drug abusers (often weed) who basically were beyond help and spent days at a time staring in to space and who no longer had any abilities to function in society.
you shouldn't be in a care home in your 20s
dont do weed kids
They were probably unstable to begin with
I praise pot too much really and I know a bunch of people that do it. But the only reason I do it is because I get offended when anyone demonizes it or doesn't understand what it really is...a fucking plant.
what it really is...a fucking plant.
There has never been a documented human fatality from marijuana.[9] Information about THC's toxicity is derived from animal studies. The toxicity depends on the route of administration and the laboratory animal. Absorption is limited by serum lipids, which can become saturated with THC, mitigating toxicity.[10] According to the Merck Index, 12th edition, THC has a LD50 (dose killing half of the research subjects) value of 1270 mg/kg (male rats) and 730 mg/kg (female rats) administered orally dissolved in sesame oil.[11] The LD50 value for rats by inhalation of THC is 42 mg/kg of body weight.[11] One estimate of Cannabis's LD50 for humans indicates that about 1500 pounds of marijuana would have to be smoked within 15 minutes.[12] This estimate is supported by studies which indicate that the effective dose of THC is at least 1000 times lower than the estimated lethal dose (a "safety ratio" of 1000:1). This is much higher than alcohol (safety ratio of 10), cocaine (15), or heroin (6).[13]
Its all about the THC man.
skunk, hash, chronic as long as you aren't smoking 1500 pounds of pot in 15 minutes then you're fine.
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What I was saying before, those kids you mentioned were probably either on something that actually was dangerous and did fuck them up, or they already had psychological problems to begin with. It wasn't the weed and it shouldn't be weed that you're worried about.
No real (or proven) long lasting psychological effects.
jorge those kids were doing something other than smoking marijuana
also were they eating acid YOU WOULD DEFINITELY NOTICE as it is not something that can be confused with being stoned whatsoever
welp when i saw them they weren't doing anything apart from sitting in chairs or having carers helping them around like in surreal old folks homes...I think most of the stories about how they got in there position were given to the staff from psychs and parents so we'll probably never knowhmmm it appears i misread you, i didnt realize these people were being taken care of, i thought you visited them and saw them under the influence of something
I don't want to have a debate about DFW
in the aftermath of his suicide many articles mentioning his almost crippling depression make reference to his later heavy drug use at college which as near as I can tell came much later than his early bouts of depression
guys i wanna get into opiateswhy do you care if they're heroin or not?
someone give me tips on opiates(not heroin)
can i go buy some tylenol 1's and take like 12 of htem and get high?
i dunno some people i know like oxy and fentanyl should i do thopse
guys i wanna get into opiates
someone give me tips on opiates(not heroin)
can i go buy some tylenol 1's and take like 12 of htem and get high?
i dunno some people i know like oxy and fentanyl should i do thopse
well...its heroin o_o;well they're oxy's!
I hope we can talk about this somewhat maturely btw because I think there's way too much tendency to overreact and be like "no all drugs are good if you take them slow" or "drugs...will ruin you!" and while I'm not saying there's a middle ground I am not sure you can responsibly smoke a crack rock or that if you enjoy the feelings of some drug you wouldn't just go ahead and do it way too much anyway!
similarly I think we can all agree that every attempt to legislate drugs has been really awful and that if there was some type of body governing drug use, people who had a high risk of a broken head would not be snorting angel dust.
dx shut the fuck upQuoteI hope we can talk about this somewhat maturely btw...
dx shut the fuck up
I thought he was being sarcastic, my bad but you should stay away from that shit imo.
I've seen some oxy pill heads and they're really really sad...
dxm is the least fun drug but i like it a lot.the reason i'm weary of trying this is because it apparently takes a lot to do anything and i'm weary of taking that much of something
dxm is the least fun drug but i like it a lot.
also isn't heroin the most dangerous of the opiates by a large margin? this is why I figured he didn't want to touch it. obviously though I DRINK COUGH SYRUP.
oh yeah oops
also yeah but that just seems like a lot a bottle of pills. that's a lot of pills and i guess i normally just associate bottle of pills with bottle of pills to suicide and it's just kind of off putting even though it's probably not that bad.
also isn't heroin the most dangerous of the opiates by a large margin?this is a convenient assumption and unfortunately people make it every day. i have no idea whether or not it is true (pretty sure it isn't) but who cares?
why are you such a useless dick. <--not fredbezgive the people a chance ~steelp aladine
the bleach example is meant to illustrate that GUESS WHAT a lot of people are not surrounded by all the facts about weed and there's nothing wrong with looking up something you know is illegal. usually there are reasons for these things. don't give someone shit because they want to know what they're putting in their body.
he said he read up on it and you all gave him shit for it. he asked for tips from experienced smokers probably because he does want to know what you're supposed to do so you don't look like a fucking dork holding a joint limply between two fingers as effetely as possible.
he was also clearly kidding about the research thing.
this is a convenient assumption and unfortunately people make it every day. i have no idea whether or not it is true (pretty sure it isn't) but who cares?
excepting the possibility of IMMEDIATE OVERDOSE and focusing on the more likely problem of addiction, there's no fucking difference
heroin or corporate heroin, those are your choices
i've been smoking pot recently i have smoked pot like four times now with a few people (twice with some friends and twice with my brother who does it a lot)
and i haven't really felt ANYTHING. they said that yeah it's normal that you don't feel anything the first couple of times but the latest time i had begun to really understand HOW to smoke and i did a lot but still didn't feel much
help me become drugy!!!
thankx
heroin is nothing compared to fentanyl
if you are looking to just enjoy some music and analyze yourself or whatever,do 5-meo-dipt
House did Methadone once. I would never try opiates. Not even Vicodin.
Ordered some methylone (beta ketone analogue of MDMA) this weekend, got it today, which surprised the hell out of me. Amazing service I was definitely not expecting, and the guy was real chill with all my questions.methylone is a lot of fun
So I tried it about half an hour ago, roughly 150mg, and I have to say, pretty amazing stuff. Dosage reports on this seem to vary a lot, and are really sketchy at best, as with most research chemicals, so I went for the middle ground. I could definitely have done more but, we'll save that for the next time. I'm finding it very, very similar to MDMA. Not quite as strong, but that may be dose dependent, and my thoughts are not clouded at all as with MDMA.
Very strong euphoria, tingling in the extremities, and an astounding sense of overall well being. Definitely feeling the need for some company however, as it just makes me want to get into a really deep conversation.
Highly, highly recommended. Although it's not very economical at all considering the price, it is completely legal in Canada, and a legal gray area in the US of A.
Just figured I'd share the experience, as there is definitely not enough knowledge out there about these things.
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420 420s by robert rauschenberg
also on 4.20 this year i am going to smoke in an abandoned icbm silo
yeah but its not a bomb shelter in the sense that it is a shelter from a bomb but rather that it is a shelter for a bombyeah.... that's what that site is about, people converting abandoned missile silos into homes
Overall I would describe this drug at low levels as tea and at high levels as being drunk, but without the 'high' feeling. Maybe I was expecting it to be like cannabis (as it is advertised) but not really impressed, seeing as it costs more than cannabis. This drug is legal for a reason. It's basically cannabis, minus the fun.
the listed ingredients have seemed suspiciously unlikely to produce its reported effects.
There are almost no “hallucinogenic” effects, no euphoria… just the usual cottonmouth and pronounced sedation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HU-210 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_47,497 are the chemicals active in it.
essentially you're paying 25%-40% more for half the effects + a placebo effect.
So yesterday I was looking to get some green and a friend told me to meet him out in the woods where he was going camping.
Well I didn't find him, but the camp I found (deep out in the woods) apparently was a hippy retreat for 4/20 and that explains quite a bit. My cousin told me its called key-oh-key or some shit like that and they come from all over to go out in the woods and get fucked up.
Then my fucking tire blew and I almost got stranded out there in the middle of fucking nowhere, my car almost fell on my arm twice and I didn't even get any weed...
I didn't realize what it was until my cousin told me about the camp and 4/20 coming up in the next few days or I might have tried to buy some shit from em.