I was wondering too......Hidden content (Click to reveal)but I still want to know how the hell nathan is back.......
I still stand by the prediction that Hiro is going to end up being the one that all the stories of Kensei are about.Thats what I was thinking.
Thats what I was thinking.
I can see how Peter is alive, but how are Nathan and Sylar alive? And what do you guys think is up with that guy at Claires new school, at first I thought that it was him hovering outside Claires window? :hmm:
Also Can't wait to see what the whole Secret Godsend Society (The group Mr.Sulu, Peter's mom, etc. are in) is about. If you don't know what the Godsend is by now go to http://heroeswiki.com/The_Symbol
Sylar wasn't even in this episode as far as I could tell, but I am too wondering how Nathan managed to survive the blast.
ALSO also those mexicans weren't interesting at all.I was interested about her power and that they wanted to stay together Was it just becasue he was protective, or because if they got seperated she would become unstable and go all (i guess) crazy psycho
I was interested about her power and that they wanted to stay together Was it just becasue he was protective, or because if they got seperated she would become unstable and go all (i guess) crazy psycho
Are you sure? At first I thought it was the guy at the school, but then I thought that he looked kind of like PeterIt is that guy from school...
He was with some woman at the end of the episode on some beach saying "Show me whats really going on here", when the credits were rolling.What?
Mat: Try to use or at least change the title to [SPOILERS] New season of heroes. :DI really think that it's just going to be cumbersome for everyone here to have to spoilerfy everything they say just for the benefit of a few people (if any). To me it makes more sense to be able to discuss anything from the latest episode back. Upcoming spoilers should be spoilerified, not what happened on yesterday's show. Any intelligent GWer who watches Heroes but hasn't watched the premiere should know not to read this topic until they get caught up. I've edited the thread title to warn people.
What?
the_hoodie never even mentioned if Sylar was dead or not. From the season finale, everyone could have guessed that Sylar was still alive anyway :(.
I was referring to the_hoodies post. Sylar is still alive, he was in the collaberation of upcoming scenes after the end of the episode during the credit saying "Show me whats really going on here" to some woman.Aw shit I didn't watch the credits.
Btw: Thanks Mat :woop:
Hiro and his story is a little boring to me, what with Kensai being gaijin and all. I knew something like this would happen, but it's a little cheesy. Ando looks weirder and him being friends with Heroes dad suspended my disbelief for a second there. (Irony.)
Have you been keeping up with the webcomics? In one of them Ando was trying to get with Hiro's sister and he ended up inadvertantly beating off a bunch of motorcycle punks and sort of earned the respect of George Takei.
That was kind of weird that Peter used a lightning bolt to repel one of those guys looking for the iPods. Where did he get the power of lightning from?
My favorite line: "Oh, no. I broke history."
Although the reason he'll end up doing it has changed, I still stand by the prediction that Hiro is going to end up being the one that all the stories of Kensei are about.
But damn yo, Nathan went emo
That was my theory after Season 1 ended as well..I seem to recall that dude that Peter saw when he thought he was dying is one of them, too. And wasn't Claude one of them, too? So that's five of the nine accounted for. Six if you count the dude that killed Mr. Sulu. Who could admittedly be any of the others, though probably not Mrs Petrelli since she would've probably gotten him when they met with one another, and presumably Linderman is still dead.
But damn yo, Nathan went emo (how'd he survive the blast anyway.. he's got no regeneration).. And who are these 9? Linderman, Mrs.Petrelli and Sulu were all in that group? And that guy who killed Sulu.. I wonder if he's the same one that came into Molly's dreams (maybe not)?
^Yup, just rewatched that part. I don't think the person who killed Sulu has been introduced yet, unless there was a white guy who could survive falling off buildings in the last season (besides Peter).Well Nathan could. I mean he couldn't survive splatting, but he also wouldn't go splat unless he wanted to, probably. He could've been working for Mrs. Petrelli.
Heh, who rescues someone, takes them away, and abandons them. Also when did Peter get Lightning, and D.L.'s power, hope he doesn't become omnipotent -_-. (the scene with Peter reminded me of The Black Donnellys)He encountered DL in the season finale. I don't know about the lightning. I have a sneaky suspicion that he got that power from someone he met between the finale and the premiere.
Still no sign if Niki, DL, or Micah though... I did see them (and Sylar) in the preview clip for next week, though.
Also it's really cool that Kensei has the regeneration power as well. I can't wait to see how this turns out.
I don't think he can regenerate. I'd rather say he might have the power to come back to life.
Also, something I want to see now is the possibility of Kensei still being alive.
As in Kensei is immortal and he is still alive in the MORDERN WORLD and maybe even the one killing the original 9?this would be awesome twist.....
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Why not just use Molly to find Peter?
Really liked the parts with Sylar, though it's a shame that Candice had to meet her end (and that she was really fat....damn illusions!). I can't wait to find out exactly why Sylar can't access powers when he is wounded (or if he had something done to him to prevent that access), just because we may finally find out how exactly he obtains the powers. He had blood on his hands after removing the power from Candice, but I didn't see if he had cut her head open like with his other victims, or dealt any damage beyond the coffee mug blow.
Anyone have further insights into this, perhaps something that I missed in the whole "Sylar dealing with his own power inadequacy" deal?
Episode 3 wasn't nearly as good as episode 2 but still pretty good. I agree that Maya and Alejandro are boring as fuck, I just can't bring myself to care about them at all.
Weird theory but do you think that this really strong enemy (That everyone has been saying since season 1.. the stronger enemy than Sylar) could be Maya? Since she was looked at from that fortune teller or whatever and she said, "You are more evil than the devil" and it looks like her powers are pure evil even if she's not a bad person herself..
No Hiro or Peter this episode? Dissapointing.That was the best part of the episode! As much as I usually like Hiro for his comedic relief, this Hiro in feudal Japan storyline is extremely boring!
What is up with the cockroaches?I think we discussed this last season. They're just symbolism for Sylar. Remember how Mohinder once gave a lecture on cockcroaches and how hard it is to kill them, that even if you cut off their head they'll still be able to survive for days? Well, it's pretty fitting for Sylar.
I think we discussed this last season. They're just symbolism for Sylar. Remember how Mohinder once gave a lecture on cockcroaches and how hard it is to kill them, that even if you cut off their head they'll still be able to survive for days? Well, it's pretty fitting for Sylar.
Did I hear Sylar say golly in this episode? He might've said it before but I never noticed. Pretty funny.
EDIT: Of course when I first saw them hug, I thought it might be because Micah was trying to use his power to heal her.
I like how Sylar's got his own theme now with all the clocks n' shit... or did he always have that?
Did I hear Sylar say golly in this episode? He might've said it before but I never noticed. Pretty funny.
Is it just me, or is the car that Alejandro, Maya, & Sylar are driving in Claire's car? Because if so, that's a pretty LOST-ish thing to pull. Speaking about Lost, did anyone else chuckle about Mohinder and Matt talking about "daddy issues"? :fogetrolleyes:
I just read on TV Squad that apparently the car Sylar and the gang are in is Claire's. I don't know if that means anything though.
obviously the kid stole claires car and tried to run to mexico, only to get himself killed, now sylar will go back to whever and claire will be like "omg my car"
I called it that they were fighting each other in the beginningSame.
Excellent episode, imo. I loved Matt's dad, that was a really cool scene. I called it that they were fighting each other in the beginning, but still. If that's a show of whats to come for Matt's powers, than awesome. Also I liked the painting thing, but that girl is annoying me. I liked the Irish guy, though. I also really like Nathan, too.
Wouldn't it be cool if Veronica Mars's dad was played by the same guy from Veronica Mars!?
And while death, like low-fat food, is never a reason to cheer, the show has become too full of competing characters and storylines and it’ll be nice to see it streamlined a bit.
I think it's fairly obvious that Alejandro will die. Not speaking English is just a bad omen for his character.
Seen Lost?RIP Nikki & Paulo... :fogetlaugh:
RIP Nikki & Paulo... :fogetlaugh:
In the previews for next week, DL is still alive and talking to Niki. I found that pretty cool.I thought that was just Nikki's conscience?
Oh, did anyone get a good look at the pictures in the warehouse that the camera didn't get a closeup of?There's one they didn't get a close up of, but it was only a painting of Claire dead (and that already happened). The rest:
Hiro would fight Kensei in the past, Isaac couldn't have seen it...this must mean that Hiro and Kensei wind up fighting in the modern world. That'd be badass.
Also the promicin is badass.
You are getting annoying, The 4400 is a terrible show, Jordon Collier is a terrible Character and you are incredibly not funny, shut up already.
I dunno if it takes away powers yet... We're not sure. Nikki no longer (that we know of) has a dual personality but imo she's still super strong (the partnerships have been one power person + one regular guy).I don't think her multiple personality disorder was ever part of her power, it was just a psychiatric condition that just happened to effect both her personality and when her power would manifest. We don't really know if the serum works and if Bob was even telling the truth.
The sad thing is, as soon as they revealed that there was a serum that removes powers, I immediately assumed that there was a boy somewhere in a lab, in a stark white room, bald, that the Company is using to synthesize the serum, since that boys power is to negate other powers.
Magneto will attempt to kill him, though.
Fears of a writers strike may have already contributed to a decision NBC made Wednesday to pull the highly anticipated spinoff miniseries of its hit "Heroes" from a midseason launch.
NBC declined comment, but "Heroes: Origins" is not going to get its six-episode run, which was expected to start as early as late April. While the network hasn't officially canceled the spinoff, producers of the series have been given no indication of when it might get a spot on the schedule.
Sources indicated "Origins" may be just the first of many projects lined up at the broadcast networks in 2008 that will get downgraded as a result of the potential strike, which could severely affect the TV industry. Budget allocations made months ago for a range of scripted programs, many of which will not be feasible without sidelined writers, will likely be reconsidered and potentially shifted to strike-proof material like reality and news programs.
"Origins" had been highly touted as a midseason addition since NBC's upfront in May, when then-entertainment president Kevin Reilly envisioned spelling "Heroes" when it took a late-season hiatus. The network had been promoting "Origins" well in advance of its premiere, noting the enlistment of such top directors as Kevin Smith and Eli Roth to write and direct select episodes.
However, it is also possible that NBC, now under the creative direction of Ben Silverman, may have seen its enthusiasm diminish for an expansion of the "Heroes" franchise given a pronounced ratings drop-off in recent weeks for the flagship series.
It is unclear at what stage "Origins" was in the preproduction process, though it is unlikely scripts had been completed.
I'm pretty positive it's Mohinder. Also; tazer because he got one from Bob and the line is jagged and white.Are you talking about the smoke from the gun??
I swear to god I think Alejandro is the worst fucking character in this show. It's like he always gets Maya and himself in some kind of trouble! I hope he dies very early in this season (season 2).He's the reason that they met the guy with the car, that led to the encounter with Sylar. His stupidity is helping evil! I hate him much worse than Sylar. :D
It's pretty funny that I always thought that Matt should be capable of having such powers.
Though, next to that I must say that in my opinion West and Nathan should have the power of object levitation too.
Something's been bothering me about Peter and I just found out what it was. Peter still has all his powers, but he can't control them properly, so why isn't he battling to keep from exploding again?
Man, last season who would have thought that anyone would consider Matt their favorite character?
Hiro was pretty gay for the entire time he was in the past, didn't feel like hiro really at all, but as soon as he came back, he seemed to be the lovable innocent Japanese guy again ^_^
Tazer??? That's definately a gun.
PS. Veronica Mars dies. She only has a 12 episode contract!
Man, Matt's power is awesome! I loved it when he walked out that door.
It was a great episode overall. I'm really liking what's happening right now. By the way, Adam has the same powers Peter right?
SO far the only known powers that Adam has is rapid cell regeneration, the same as Claire.
Well from what Bob said I assumed he had other powers besides healing. I could be wrong though.
Yeah, how could he be in the future unless he absorbed Hiro's power, or unless he just can't die and lives forever.His power makes him functionally immortal, the only way for him to die would be to remove his brain (as strongly suggested when Sylar kills Claire in an alternate future), or to leave an implement that killed him inside his brain but that may only be temporary.
I bet Sylar's going to save the world this time by using Alejandro's powers to cure the disease. Although I have no idea if Alejandro's powers work that way.Alejandro has powers? I thought he was only able to calm down Maya because of being her brother, that's all.
Alejandro has powers? I thought he was only able to calm down Maya because of being her brother, that's all.He seems to counteract her virus by absorbing it into himself and nullifying it, he can also revive recently killed virus victims it seems. He's basically a walking antidote.
He seems to counteract her virus by absorbing it into himself and nullifying it, he can also revive recently killed virus victims it seems. He's basically a walking antidote.Oh, okay. I just thought the virus doesn't kill if it isn't affecting for long enough. That's why I thought Alejandro and many of the victims haven't died. Also if someone didn't notice, I added something more to my last post!
Also did anyone get that snow falls in Miami thing?
Seeing as how Adam's power is simply celluar regeneration in himself, it would make more sense if he was able to extend this power in order to produce extraneous body parts rather than being induce regeneration in others (although Bob did say that Linderman, the only actual "healer" we've seen was his "disciple", so if you wanted to take a loose interpretation of that, I assume that it is possible...).
If Adam has a power like Peter's, that means he would have needed to come in contact with someone else with cellular regeneration, which is possible, but more complicated than just assuming that regenerative ability is his only power. In addition, he most likely would have demonstrated some time control abilities during the time that Hiro spent with him.
(I thought that Maurie's power was supposed to be pretty much identical to Matt's, just brought up to a higher level...)
'Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans
Tim Kring admits mistakes were made at the beginning of season 2, but promises to get back on track
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''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro
Mitchell Haaseth
All About
Heroes
By Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''
On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''
But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes - he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes - and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:
THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 - a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''
THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.
THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) - by weaving her in via Peter's story line - is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)
HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan - where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) - finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''
YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''
Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale - a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints - and we're doing something about it.''
It has been stated by the crew over on their Behind the Eclipse thing at CBR that with enough dedication and practice, people can learn to use other powers within their "school" of powers....the example given was that Matt, his dad, and Candice could all learn to use one another's powers with enough work. Presumably someone like Kensei, with all the time in the world to study and practice, would be able to extend his powers to whatever their limit is. I'm just not sure what the healers' suite of powers would be. I guess most likely he could probably heal other people now, too, like Linderman. Other than that, I'm sort of at a loss.
Am I the only one who actually liked that timeline?I liked it too, but I have also been accused of japfaggery.
Man, I guess I'm to much of a Japfag.
And I think from that painting of Noah dead and Mohinder with the gun.... I think Mohinder ends up killing off Noah...I think they are trying to make us believe that but something else will happen. Mohinder will kill someone else instead. And I really hope Noah won't die.
Hmm, the pictures haven't been wrong before. :(
BTW: The picture that Mat posted of the painting of Peter doesn't have Sylar behind him, it is Nathan.
You are both very wrong. I easily recognized the painting is of peter looking at the deaths by the virus of the future. The part that starts at 11.55 minutes of episode "7 - Out of Time" (at this moment the last episode). Easily recognized by the red biohazard sign.
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Edit: Actual all paintings are recognizable in episode 7, only the one with Mohinder and dead Noah are still left (7/8, 8/8).
No he has not, but because you obviously are to lazy to even check my statement out, I'll gladly post some screenshots for you here:
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(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/38424/heroes2.png)
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/38424/heroes3.png)
So, please, take a good look at them and prove me wrong again if you wish, but I guess this is solid evidence.
The Haitian's first known power was suppression; memory erasing and the like we found out about later.
Good question, though... Hmm... I guess they thought Peter escaping was more important.
I think Adam and Peter met and escaped together. Adam might be manipulating Peter though, who knows.Like I said last week! I think Adam was clearly trying to manipulate Peter with the whole I can help Nathan deal, though I don't know if he's really evil or not. Probably both him and the company are.
Why didn't DL just phase through the bullet? Doesn't make sense imo.Well, it was really sudden so maybe he didn't even realize he was about to shoot him.
Am I the only one who thinks that Kirsten Bell is absolutely adorable?
The way DL died seemed a bit dumb to me. Why didn't he let the bullet phase through him? The guy held the gun to his chest for about 2 seconds before firing, is (was) DL THAT slow in the brain? And no, it wasn't that sudden, the guy tried to punch him in the head faster than it took to shoot him. Although, I'm guessing DL was expecting the punch when he was approaching the guy. But still, the gun was held to his chest for a whole 2 seconds.Have you ever been in a car accident? It seems to take forever, and afterwards you can't really explain why you couldn't have reacted faster and avoided everything, but no matter how much time seems to slow down, a lot of people find themselves unable to get out of the situation.
Yeah...
It's a little weird. I don't think Adam is EVIL, just very impulsive.
Also Kristen Bell has a great character also. It's sad, how she can't touch anyone. She IS adorable, though.
Also, it looks like Angela Petrelli's ability was finally shown--or hinted at at least. Persuasion? :fogetshh:Seems to be, at first I thought she might also be able to heal and heal Nathan.
I was thinking about the Haitian and Peter last night when I watched it. If Peter can use the Haitian's ability now, can he stop the Haitian from using his ability?
I still think that Noah has some sort of power we don't know about, yet I think that rather than Mohinder killing Noah (which I think he will actually kill Bob or try to kill Adam), West will kill him (as suggested in the last painting).
Sylar will use the Vulcan Nerve Pinch on them...
The Haitian can stop Peter's powers; we saw that with the lightning. Peter's ACTUAL REAL power, however, is absorbing other powers, so the Haitian probably stops that and everything else goes out with it.
But once again that goes back to being a passive trait. If the Haitian can't stop Adam's passive healing powers, then he probably can't stop Peter's powers. I was actually thinking about that the other day. Can Peter absorb the Haitians powers or not?
Forgive my ignorance, but when was it said that the Haitian can't stop Adam's powers? I don't remember anyone saying it on the show.
At a certain moment (I tried to find the exact time, but I couldn't find it) Peter asks Adam why they were in prison if they were dangerous and just didn't kill them. In reply Adam awnsered that if they could, they would have done it. Keeping in mind the Hatian can stop powers, it suggests that Adam has powers you can't stop.
Next to that Adam also states that his blood has healing powers. It isn't something he does himself.
This can also explain the fact why Peter could survive the bullits without having to get them out before healing (remember Claire can only heal if she takes out the foreign objects in her body).
Mah. That's just a plothole. The writers obviously missed it.
or adam just lied to peter. It's not like a possible villain never lied before!
Until he's revealed as a villain, it's a plothole. Doesn't matter how many geeks spend their lives trying to explain it.He was already revealed as a villain, in Feudal Japan. No matter how many geeks want to spend their lives building him up as a secret good guy of a doubt because of his mysterious nature and exotic accent.
Ayolark is definitely right. He has some mental control; so he could stop someone from consciously shooting lightning, etc. Peter I guess could absorb powers since it's passive and subconscious, but he can't use them since the Haitian is there. I'm not sure... But since regenerative cells and the like have nothing to do with thought, he can't stop that. He can't stop POWERS, just the thought required to ACTIVATE most of them.
Well, I was wrong! Apparently Adam and Peter were/are friends, which is even better. New prediction: Adam doesn't care SO MUCH about Hiro anymore, probably because he doesn't know when Hiro originated from (i.e. what time period). So he'll probably meet up with Hiro and have some sort of SUDDEN REALIZATION or something, and they'll either team up or fight. I really hope Adam becomes a recurring character for the rest of the show, he's awesome. The little Nikki tidbits were okay... Why didn't DL just phase through the bullet? Doesn't make sense imo.
Also that lightning girl is interesting now. Not to mention WOW.
Well I guess that answered the question of why Adams not dead yet, but it will be interesting to see how (if?) he'll die.
Awesome, in my head I was over-complicating the matter of how he could die. Of course, I can't remember, but when Peter exploded did he physically explode or did he just release the radiation causing an explosion.I think just release the radiation like Ted does, it would suck for Ted otherwise because he can't regenerate.
That's a stupid way of how DL died... Biggest bullshit ever!
In the previews for Heroes during the Office, I saw Nathan shooting someone with glasses... I'm guessing Bob.
Until he's revealed as a villain, it's a plothole. Doesn't matter how many geeks spend their lives trying to explain it.Maybe Adam's power is simply better? It's above being disabled! It's above your reasoning capabilities!
Props to everyone who guessed that Adam killed Sulu, and Mohinder killed Noah :woop:
oh my god oh my god i was in shock when noah got shot but hes alive oh my god i came in my pants
It was obvious after Claire's blood was taken, and the picture showed Noah being killed(obviously by mohinder) that lol they were going to use her bloodi thought the blood was for niki but i suppose not..... i bet 1) mohinder didnt know that bob took claire's blood 2) mohinder doesn't know noah is alive
gosh
Btw, scientificly the powers of Claire and Adam don't seem logical. A human ages because cells are being damaged and because of copieng mistakes while the cells devide. Rapidly deviding cells for regeneration should actually kill them faster :p. This was done right in Naruto though.
By the way, did it catch anyone else's attention that Kaito told Hiro "we have the powers of gods?"
A very interesting episode, an a lot of suspicions were cleared up, no mexicans was also great.
I wish the Mexicans would go the way of Internet Girl from season 1. Anyone remember her? She was standing in Noah's house at the end of one episode with Fat Cop and Nuke Man. Then at the beginning of the next episode, she was gone. No one in the room even noticed. What the fuck was that all about!?Hannah Gittleman (think that's it?) she dies in the comic and has some backstory added, but they could have at least mentioned it on the show.
Aye, she was an absolutely pointless character, but why put her there in the first place if you're gonna just retcon her 4 and a half seconds later?
I wonder where Noah is now? I guess with the company...?
Also I thought it was obvious that all of the earlier generation had powers, i.e. Maury, Kaito, Adam, Angela, Bob, Charles Deveaux, Linderman, etc.
I'm thinking that maybe the woman in the picture may be Angella Petrelli's sister? Who else but family ties would want to protect enough like that?
EDIT: Since claire's blood causes the regeneration in people when it's put into it, does this mean that these people now have claire's power? It would stem to think that all these cells from claire would keep on dividing, keeping their trace in Noah's bloodstream, and Nathan too? Or do you think that once those cells die out the power of regeneration goes with it?
As biology teacher I can inform you of the fact that all bloodcels are fully grown and aren't able to devide (you need stemcels for that). Red bloodcels don't even have a nucleus/cellcore.
My guess is that Sylar doesn't eat brains, but looks and hears how the brains coorperate to use a power, after that he just mimics that.
I think that he looks at the brain's DNA samples or strains or whatever, or examines how they work, and injects the blood into himself so he can use those powers also.
What? Heroes is coming to a break? Why? How?
What? Heroes is coming to a break? Why? How?Writers Strike, dude. All scripted programming except news is having to go dark after they show the episodes they already had made when the strike took effect. Heroes had more than most shows, though, so that's at least a small blessing.
Oh okay because they haven't made any announcement that Heroes was gonna go on a "break." I thought Heroes wasn't affected by the strike.Everything is affected by the strike except news and some cartoons. Fox's animated lineup is affected, but they tend to be produced so long before they're made that it won't be an issue. South Park would probably be a sticking point, since it's produced and written the week of, but their season is over anyway, and I'm not sure if they're WGA shows.
Cool episode. Anyone want to tell me what happened in the last 10 minutes, please?
Now her brother is dead I actually start to like the whole Maya/Sylar storyline.
Wouldn't it have made more sense for Hiro to properly explain what Adam was up to and reason with Peter rather than say a few words and run at him with a sword screaming?
Hiro's a fucking idiot. Why didn't he just freeze Peter? He'd rather kill him to get to Adam? The people who write this show are retards.
Ultimately, though, it just comes down to "Hiro vs. Peter: HEAVEN OR HELL! FIGHT!" Which is cool by me.
Remember what happened the last time Heroes hyped up a big fight?You mean the finale? Yeah, and that worries me some too, since the main problem with the finale....and really with any episode of Heroes, is the budget. They just can't afford to show fancy superpowers all the time, and I'm sure the budget they've got isn't piffling to begin with. But Hiro's power isn't a budget-drainer like some of the others. You don't need CGI, you don't need a green screen, and you don't need cranes....just some trick photography and fancy cuts. So I hold out some hopes.
Hiro's a fucking idiot. Why didn't he just freeze Peter? He'd rather kill him to get to Adam? The people who write this show are retards.When Future Hiro told Peter to save the cheerleader, Peter was unfrozen, but everyone else was frozen in time.
I actually felt sad when Alejandro died for some reason. :(Probably because he was the only one who wasn't a complete tool in the Maya/Sylar/Alejandro story arc
I was under the impression that the Heroes series was going to have the first how many episodes (11 I think) in the fall, and then start back up in the spring with the others, and the writers strike did nothing for this show (besides maybe a later start for the second selection of episodes).I just hope this season ends as soon as possible. From what I hear they're going to put everything that was good in the show back into Season 3 since they know they screwed up, and what they screwed up. They're apparently going to lose most of the current cast too. Which is a good thing imho.
Prediction: Nikki and the copycat chick die.
As much as I would love that, wouldn't it make their entire storyline totally useless? It never really tied into the main plot AT ALL other than Bob meeting the copycat for like ten minutes.
copycat chick (nobody even fucking knows her name)
Man I hate the fact that people can now 'come back from the dead' from getting transplant of this blood... They're taking this into a very predictable direction now...I would imagine time is an issue. I don't think they're just going to drop magic blood on Linderman and have him regenerate, for example.
But I still love this show and for what its worth... Too bad there's only one episode left for this season due to the writer's strike... Anyone know when it'll continue?
Gah, 4 healers in the show. I forgot about Linderman having regenerative powers, but I thought that he could only heal others.As far as we know, that's all he can do. But since we now know powers can expand, I still say it's not impossible he'll end up coming back that way.
Needs less Cure 3 and more Fire 3.
Considering Linderman had his brain destroyed, I don't think he will come back.
Noah got shot in the eye though while Linderman actually had his brains eaten.
Noah got shot in the eye though while Linderman actually had his brains eaten.
and since when could Sylar heal?
EDIT: Also pissed me off that the virus was taken care of so fast and easily. :/You've got to expect that. They probably wrote this episode in the last week before the strike went into effect, and they had to push themselves to wrap up storylines that they likely weren't expecting to wrap up that early.
EDIT: My friend has a theory about Sylar's brain eating... He thinks that Sylar just needs to examine it and figure out how it works in order to achieve the power.
From what I have read, this episode was always written this way, and when the stike occured Tim Kring said that he thought it served well enough as a season finale so they left it at that.
yesActually, I believe Tim(or whatever the creators name is) said that they made some changes to the final episode due to the strike. At least thats what he said on the G4 Heroes Post-Show(after episode 7 or 8 i think) thing.
they only produced 11 episodes before the strike happend, the strike didn't affect anything except where this season ended.
they were going to be this good/bad whether the strike happend or not.
Actually, I believe Tim(or whatever the creators name is) said that they made some changes to the final episode due to the strike. At least thats what he said on the G4 Heroes Post-Show(after episode 7 or 8 i think) thing.
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Thought we would get all three useless sub characters dead in one episode, but I guess one being permanently dead will be just as good.Yeah, I wouldn't have minded seeing greasy-haired-kid and chick-with-that-name-no-remembers die, too. Kinda wish Maya was still dead.
DS, good theory about Noah killing Nathan at the end. Too bad Nathan didn't listen to his mom about not spilling the beans, her freaking power is being manipulative.
I was thinking it could be Noah since he doesn't want 'heroes' to go public. And Peter's mother was probably talking to Bob in the end.
Well, Peter's power was exactly the same, because Matt had it as well. Maury's was a bit different.I don't know. But Mohinder specifically told Sylar that "There are many different strains of the Virus, and not all of them take powers. One of them, if mixed with the blood of a Healer, heals everything." Or something like that.
Also Shadowtext that makes no sense. Then how did Adam heal Nathan? It's just that Claire's blood + virus = no virus.
I don't know. But Mohinder specifically told Sylar that "There are many different strains of the Virus, and not all of them take powers. One of them, if mixed with the blood of a Healer, heals everything." Or something like that.
EDIT: My friend has a theory about Sylar's brain eating... He thinks that Sylar just needs to examine it and figure out how it works in order to achieve the power. I still think he eats brains... just so much cooler. However, his theory is sound.
I'm pretty sure you're friends idea is pretty much just more or less common sense. The brain eating thing? That's just stupid. Just THINK about Sylars power. It' kind of obvious dude.
I also forgot to mention that Peter should have just phased through the vault, even though it's more dramatic to stand there trying to rip it off it's hinges with telekinesis. Peter 'vadering Hiro was pretty unnecessary too.
It seems that Mat's mind control does not work on someone with mind control and a strong will, so surely Maury could have escaped his commands.
That was just the cure. It revives, brings back powers, and heals your wounds.
No remember, Pete doesn't know that he has DL's power of phasing through walls... He has the invisible guy's power which allows him to go invisible but he can't phase through objects...
What...? Do you watch the show? How do you think Adam and Peter ESCAPED? Peter phased through the wall with Adam. And at that point he had no memory loss (the vault scene, I mean), so there's really no excuse other than COOL SPECIAL FX.And even if he didn't remember that. He phased through his ropes, when he was in Ireland.
I second this. I watched the episode carefully and noticed the horn rimmed glasses the man was wearing:
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/38424/Proof1.png)
Around 40.46 minutes.
Looks more like a baseball cap than glasses. The rims would have to be massive. I agree though, that it could be Noah. He has the motive, but it's all a little too obvious. I'm sure they'll be some plot twist to do with time travel in the third season where Sylar or Peter go back in time and kill Nathan for some reason...blah
I doubt the writers even know who killed Nathan yet. We all know this show is made up on the spot.It sure feels that way, especially this season, which has been on whole, pretty terrible. Anyone who thinks it's better than season 1 must be deluding themselves.
1) Kristen Bell was originally supposed to be in 8 episodes and then killed off but due to fan support they are keeping her around for a bit longer
2) Elle was setup as a Bob's step daughter and the daughter of Meredith which in turn would have been Claire's SISTER but they dropped it due to lack of storylline and plot holes.
3) Stephen Tobolowsky (BOB) also had a slightly different story, he was supposed to be more evil then he is now and even recruited his SON WEST to make Claire turn against her father this was dropped early in Volume 2 for "various reasons".
What...? Do you watch the show? How do you think Adam and Peter ESCAPED? Peter phased through the wall with Adam. And at that point he had no memory loss (the vault scene, I mean), so there's really no excuse other than COOL SPECIAL FX.
Looks more like a baseball cap than glasses. The rims would have to be massive. I agree though, that it could be Noah. He has the motive, but it's all a little too obvious. I'm sure they'll be some plot twist to do with time travel in the third season where Sylar or Peter go back in time and kill Nathan for some reason...blah
Not likely, I don't know if you gave yourself the oppertunity to watch the scene again, but I can assure you it isn't a baseballcap, but a pair of glasses.
You're right I forgot all about that... Guess I was trying to find justification for him using his telekinesis power on the vault door, that's all... :shocking:
But uh he should've phased through it with Adam.... *shrugs
rofl are you serious? If you watch it, you can clearly tell its a hat. You can even see the buckle thing at the back, and tell where it cuts off. Man I seriously hope you were joking.
Well then, have your little laugh. I was confinced that it was a pair of glasses. It's pretty childish to wrob it in my face like this though. Please learn how to take part of a proper discussion please.
who thinks mohinder has something to hide under that nose plaster?Why didn't Mohinder take a shot of CureAll to fix his broken nose?
STYLE.
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I think the cure-all only fixes recent wounds and or recent deaths.
And about the whole blood issue and Peter not having universal blood, perhaps it'sBring the witcha mixture of healer's blood, Mohinder's blood, and some chemicals.
Why didn't Mohinder take a shot of CureAll to fix his broken nose?
Why didn't Mohinder take a shot of CureAll to fix his broken nose?There was only a very limited amount of that blood, and now there's nothing left, and they're not getting any mroe because Claire kinda hates the company, plus they need to mix it with the virus, which is gone. I don't think there's gonna be any more cure-all blood.
And why is horn-rimmed-glasses man still wearing horn rimmed glasses? Wouldn't Claire's blood fix his vision problem?
There was only a very limited amount of that blood, and now there's nothing left, and they're not getting any mroe because Claire kinda hates the company, plus they need to mix it with the virus, which is gone. I don't think there's gonna be any more cure-all blood.
Also it only heals dead cells, so if a problem you have doesn't have to do with dead cells then that blood won't help. Vision problems have to do with eye lense distances and thickness.
The blood DOESN'T need to be mixed with the virus to cure everything(see: Nathan being healed by Adam).Adam is a different person with different powers and they can't get his blood because he's a twat. Also regenerating cells, healing cells, whatever, same effect.
Adam is a different person with different powers and they can't get his blood because he's a twat. Also regenerating cells, healing cells, whatever, same effect.
I dunno, they made a big fuss about the virus being incurable, and if it was as easy doing some work with Claires Blood and Mohinders, why couldnt a cure be developed after the outbreak? Because the Cure was developed before the outbreak.
But Claire's blood was going to cure Nikki and DID cure Sylar...? What do you mean, it couldn't be cured. That's why everyone was going for Claire in the first place.
Yeah...? The Shanti virius was the form of the ability inhibitor that mutated into a deadly virius. It's the same thing.
Ok, so I went to the Jules Verne Festival for Heroes: The Event in LA and. Dude. Dude. They showed footage from the third volume, "Villains." DO NOT peek behind the cut unless you want to be spoiled!
SYLAR, and lots of him. It's hard to describe exactly what we were shown--most of it must have been a dream sequence or future-jump scenario because everyone was dead. The bodies of the main cast were littered around what looked like a trashed Company prison. I can only remember Claire (dressed as a cheerleader) and Matt's bodies clearly, but it was pretty grotesque (yay! Not a lot of that this season).
Apparently there will be the equivalent of "Seven Sylars running around." It sounds like seven killers with abilities, locked up by The Company, have escaped. The only one prominently featured was a lithe black man who seemed to have preternatural speed--and used that to rip a cop's heart out of his chest (or did something with it that killed the guy because he was very much dead afterwards). If I remember correctly all the other killers were just shadows in the asylum's hallway. IMO it looks like Sylar may be the one to break these people out, since he is seen killing at least three people for their abilities... but perhaps he does so unintentionally, who knows. The "Seven Sylars" line is directly from the trailer and I don't think he'd invite that kind of competition. He probably breaks into the Company building wanting revenge and discovers they have a bunch of special people locked up... hey, buffet!
It appears Sylar is caught by the Company again (he was tied down with a tube going into his nose). He's seen verbally toying with Elle while he's laying on a table as well as when he's upright and dressed normally, though the context was all over the place so who knows which comes first. They have a confrontation. The way it was edited implied--to me, at least--that he kills her, but that could have been within the context of the dream sequence/time-jump. Probably so.
The BEST part was a a shot of Angela Petrelli in the asylum... and then hands coming up around her shoulders. The person behind her steps forward, and it's Sylar. Some of the other peeps in my party were taking that as confirmation that she's the Ev0l, but I figure that could just as well be her last minutes alive. There was an awful lot of her in the trailer too, actually, but she didn't look pleased by what was going on.
It's hard to describe it all and I know I'm not great at recounting it, but I was SO JAZZED to see this footage. I was shocked, because I wasn't expecting to be so impressed after the lackluster volume two. I CANNOT WAIT NOW. Get this ****** strike over with so we can make way for the win, plz!
I've kind of stopped caring to be totally honest. Heroes hasn't been on for so long that I've forgotten almost all the minor details and events that occurred. At this point I'm more pumped for Prison Break's return than Heroes (although I will watch Heroes... if only to be able to hear Imogen Heap at some point - since the writers strike screwed that over).
I've kind of stopped caring to be totally honest. Heroes hasn't been on for so long that I've forgotten almost all the minor details and events that occurred.
you guys need to play brainage or somethingI think I purposely forgot most of it because it was that bad... that, or the Haitian visited me.
I still remember every single thing that happened season 2 :\
I think I purposely forgot most of it because it was that bad... that, or the Haitian visited me.and prison break season 3 was better??
you guys need to play brainage or something
I still remember every single thing that happened season 2 :\
and prison break season 3 was better??It was better than season 2 of PB itself for me, and in my eyes definetely better than Heroes volume 2.