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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Phayre on September 26, 2007, 05:46:23 am
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I have a tendency to be.... inspired.... by things I watch a lot of, but I found that anime and manga (mostly manga in my case, but whatever) tend to be the most easily discernible inspirations, even though I don't ordinarily watch/read much (I prefer manga, and $10 a pop? Ha.... no). For example, I love CLAMP. I love it soooooooooooo much it's kinda scary. I recently went on a little kick, watching Tsubasa, which got me rereading Tokyo Babylon, which got me back into X. That was a all well and good.... until I noticed that in not one but two of my recent works a character who was already more that a little batty had lost an eye and gotten even battier. Not that our good friend Seishiro left an impression on me or anything. Do you ever find this happening? How much so? Or perhaps I'm just batty myself.
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Clamp died after Card Captor Sakura. No lie.
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I'm not really a fan of Clamp (I liked x/1999 no doubt when I first read it but....)
I have some series that got me going but my favorite will be Alichino (beautiful art *_*) and Yami No Matsuei. I don't think that the artists I like have any other series :p
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Nice one Nessiah. My first avatar on GW was from Alichino... and I had it for over a year.
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Alichino definetly has some very good looking art. I'd like to read it though...
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I think part of the reason I like anime and manga so much is that it often inspires me, and that does of course lead to things I make being largely influenced by anime and manga.
Thing is, I don't know if it's really the graphical style that does it. Oh, I mean, there are aspects of the style that are significant--large eyes make expressing emotions easier, for example--but mostly it just seems to be that they have standardized a few things that Western animation and comics still haven't, and that makes for stuff that is much more exciting for a maker.
For example, animation-wise, continuity, a (relatively) short ongoing plot that gets wrapped up in the end and character development are fairly common. That's not to say it's always well done, but it's there, and that's not as often true with American cartoons....which is fairly limiting for a person interested in the art form. There are some western shows that do that (and they inspire me pretty much equally. I'm thinking of shows like Gargoyles and more recently, Avatar. Although since that one's so heavily influenced by anime, that might not be a great example).
Manga-wise, continuity and character development are pretty standard, but at least in the mainstream stuff, a fixed length plot isn't. Mainstream stuff tends to be ongoing. It's also largely superheroes. Indie stuff has changed that a bit, but indie stuff is harder to find (I still can't find a copy of Scott Pilgrim at any of my local stores, for instance), and there have always been limited series.
Anyway, these are just some thoughts off the top of my head. I'll probably have some more to say later.
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Alichino makes me happy. Then I note its status on the things I love that haven't been finished (next volume=supposedly the last) and die a little inside. YnM has too much sketchy, not enough stuff I care about, thus putting it below other sketchy supernatural series. But agreed, for the most part, on the CLAMP bit, though Rayearth was great.
Are there any specific things you tend to see yourself doing? I drew a lot of characters with black hair and freaky-colored eyes after doing an X layout with Kamui. Not that I'm a raving X fangirl or anything. Noooooo, never.
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So hurry up and show your work already.
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Uhhh it really doesn't. This probably seems REALLY HYPOCRITICAL being that I usually draw with an anime style, but that is mostly because it is supereasy, awesome for whoring, and because I grew up drawing it. Anime doesn't particularly inspire me, and the only series that has really had an effect is Bleach, who I stole eyebrows from, but the only thing that really interested me creativity-wise is the whole Soul Society concept and hierarchy.
Other than that I haven't really drawn anything- artistically or otherwise- from anime. To me its just another medium of entertainment.
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but that is mostly because it is supereasy,
Can't argue with that. It's why so many people start drawing because of it. It is so accessible... anyone can pick it up. If you're like me... even though I'm not particularly insterested in manga/ anime much any more (quality is so few and far between) I still draw in that style because of how cheap it is. It's fun and sometimes relaxing... though ultimately vacant in the end. There's nothing wrong with it though.. because everyone eventually grows out of it~
I have taken a bit from Bleach here and there though. Not much... just some definition styles for the arms and legs. I am also trying to take the perspective/ proportions from Samurai Champloo... occasionally taking Hellsing's line style every so often (I was heavily into it though, considering how much of a genius Khouta Hirano was.. though he was very hit or miss). I've recently had a thing for Falcoon though... and if I start to do more anime arts than usual it might influence me...but I see nothing for now. I dropped HTK's/ L2's anime CG style (or manwa if you want to be a dick about korean styles) in favor of true CG styles (CA/Steambot/ Sumaleth aka Sijun/ Speedpaint styles)... I myself literally STUDYING these styles whereas the previous interests where just that... interests~
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Oh shit I forgot about Hellsing! Well I haven't really taken anything from it, I've ATTEMPTED to (mostly nose/mouth stuff), but never successfully. I think most of my body style is fairly generic stuff that is used by most people, it isn't really inspired by any one thing and is more a conglomeration of real anatomy and the simplistic styling that pretty much all anime uses.
One thing I neglected to mention, though, was costume design, mostly because my costumes are inspired by so many different things at once, and each costume draws from different things. Somehow I grew an affinity for belts, chains, and wrappings, but I really have no idea where that came from! Other times if I am focusing for a particular mood to the costume I reference a particular character that matches that style, but I don't really focus on any specific series/game than any other.
So hurry up and show your work already.
Also do this.
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When I talk my mouth just opens and closes with no other movement in my face whatsoever
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When I talk my mouth just opens and closes with no other movement in my face whatsoever
Not me. I'm rubber-hose style, so my body tends to move with no regard to the laws of gravity or the presence of bones and tendons, and my mouth can become larger than my face. But that's a feature, not a bug, you understand. Just ask John Krickfalusci. He will explain at length why that's preferable.
I have a friend that's more influenced by the more mainstream modern American animation, though, and he's made up exclusively of fairly static geometric shapes. His face doesn't change when his mouth moves, either, come to think of it. Hmm.
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It turns up more in my writing, to be honest, and I can't find any isolated examples. The eye example given earlier was one.... I'll scrounge in my binders for specific text if you like. Maybe it's just turning up more glaringly than literary influences, which I usually only notice long after.
Surprisingly enough, anime has no effect on the movement of my body or mouth. Strange, that.
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It turns up more in my writing, to be honest, and I can't find any isolated examples. The eye example given earlier was one.... I'll scrounge in my binders for specific text if you like. Maybe it's just turning up more glaringly than literary influences, which I usually only notice long after.
Surprisingly enough, anime has no effect on the movement of my body or mouth. Strange, that.
I just meant you should post your artwork.... GA needs activity... (we won't bite I promise!)
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As soon as I finish something, hopefully better than the last one, I'll do so. Sorry, misunderstood.
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Needs more burning passion.
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I did Alichino Art once and it was successful but after a while I kinda failed at it again because of lack of practice XD
I think Count Cain/God Child is another good example :3 I love Kaori Yuki's Art! Angel Sanctuary caught me because of Lucifer's insane art XD Deathnote was pretty cool :3
But yeah! Show us your work!
(I'm trying realism but it doesn't appeal to me too much :()
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Angel Sanctuary caught me because of Lucifer's insane art
Same... though it was Michael that got to me. It's a shame the story was so convoluted/ stupid though.... the effort was a real waste (becoming apparent if you've ever watched the OVAs). Ever since Setsuna became a women ( don't bother explaining the Alexial part... I get it... but the fact remains) the story really went downhill. It's definately one of the best drawn though~
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Same... though it was Michael that got to me. It's a shame the story was so convoluted/ stupid though.... the effort was a real waste (becoming apparent if you've ever watched the OVAs). Ever since Setsuna became a women ( don't bother explaining the Alexial part... I get it... but the fact remains) the story really went downhill. It's definately one of the best drawn though~
Ack!!! True that's so true :fogetcry:
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Well...I'm not sure if there is a lot of stuff I do that could conceivably be somehow influenced by my love of the animu. I consume practically no other pop culture than Japanese, what with the Internet having an abundance of accessible sources of it, and I probably can't draw anything other than manga style, but I think that that and learning Japanese is still fairly innocuous. My comics tend to have a more Western layout, execution and theme, and I haven't made any J-RPGs since I quit RM2k, but out of storytelling conventions I do have picked up the Japanese guilty pleasure of Expospeak, and my current game project is an anime super martial arts battle simulator.
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Well... liking Japanese cartoons certainly does provide one with ample opportunities for free entertainment, seeing as how many fansubbing groups and torrents fly about on the net for that kind of thing these days. It also has the effect of keeping me feeling like a kid to some degree even at my age... don't know whether to feel good or bad about that... usually I tend to just revel in that dorky side of myself though. Cartoons are fun!
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i'm pretty sure all media has fucked up mine and you guys' brains beyond repair
i guess i'm lucky i've never watched that much anime then
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I knew some guy who it affected majorly.
He grew up watching DBZ and then watched Evangelion in High School. In my freshman year in college, he was saying how he was God's chosen warrior to fight in the Armageddon and he'd live for like 1,000 years and start to learn basic Ki powers. His kids (he wanted to have kids with some girl who was 14 -- he was 19 -- ugh) were going to be the real warriors of Armageddon and totally win and stuff. He'd take them to be raised in the wilderness and not let them know what society taught, so that they could believe the truth of his "world."
Crazy dude, I tell you.
It affects me a little, but only when I see a character I like. I tend to pick up a few things about their personality. Then again, it also inspires me not to be like certain characters. After watching some of Evangelion, I swore to never be like Shinji for example. Hahaha. But there's always something to pull away -- Gundam SEED and Kira's struggle that every life is valuable and your own, fighting who you're meant to be, and that kind of thing. It's stuff you'd pull from everywhere else too.
I think subconsciously we all take a little away. Be it a moral, or a way of thinking, but characters make us envious. Even reading something like Ender's Game and following Ender or following Bean's saga, you see a whole different way of thinking. Hell, Ender nuked an entire civilization and Bean was a mutant who had no purpose in life. But it's sometimes comforting, especially when you have issues with "Why was I born?" or knowing that your parents didn't want you, etc.
We all pull it from somewhere. It's just generally something that shapes us -- just hopefully some people aren't so crazy like that guy I was talking about where he pulls... way... too much... And can't even be slightly realistic about his situation.
--Terin
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ANIME / MANGA HAS NOT AFFECTED ME ONE BIT!
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The only thing I can really think that it might have had an influence on is my writing. Specifically, a story called "The Forlorn Explorer", a fanfic based on Maple Story. I always visualize that as an anime whenever I'm working on it, though it might not be obvious to readers. Though the end of each chapter ends as a few animes do, with the main character giving a little monologue and there being a brief exchange between characters. (Can't think of a good example of it though... except maybe Inuyasha.)
I can't think of any other ways it migth have influenced me... but I don't watch that much anime... or TV in general.