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Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 26, 2007, 12:45:11 pm
Project Cloverfield


(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/bp3.blogger.com/_wvoLtwni0kc/RqkTYNKICXI/AAAAAAAAKNY/6CQBIFqR5OY/s320/cloverfieldposter1.jpeg)


So uh, Project Cloverfield is something that has kind of been intriguing me for a little while now, ever since I went to see Transformers in the cinema but as with all viral marketing things it is pretty hard to come by information on what is actually going on. So I am posting this topic in the hope that some of you might know a little bit more than I do and can enlighten us on the situation.

So let's break it all down bit by bit, Firstly, what the fuck is Project Cloverfield?

Well I first heard of it at my work when I recieved the trailer, "JJ Abrams Untitled: Project Cloverfield - To be Played at the start of Transformers." Yeah that was it.

That trailer can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMF_lohzglY

We don't get a title, we just get a release date and the fact that it is from JJ Abrams. It looks like Lost meets the Blair Witch meets The Host. It looks pretty awesome and interesting. So yeah apparently there is a lot of viral marketing going on with this that I obviously haven't been able to keep up with. There are a few things on the net that have turned up but they mean nothing to me and really give away nothing towards what the film might be like.

Namely the official homepage (apparently)
http://www.1-18-08.com

Completely by accident I found out that by sitting with this page open in the background for a while you start hearing some crazy roar sounds but that is abou all I have found on this so far.

and this website, whatever the hell it is:
http://jamieandteddy.com/

UPDATE: The password for this website is "jllovesth"

This is about as much information as I have managed to find on the project which is kind of gay because it is NO INFORMATION at all. It doesn't help that the title of the project seems to have changed about 4 times. It started off as "JJ Abrams Monstrous" apparently, then "Wreck" and now "Project Cloverfield." So yeah if anyone knows anything about this at all, I am interested so that would be cool.

Lastly I found this little piece of fan made art, it probably has nothing to do with the film but it looks cool anyway:

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z68/godziboy1993/monster.jpg)


It's like The Host on a larger scale.

EDIT: OH BTW UPDATE, the password for that teddy thing is "jllovesth" I found it on some website. Cool.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 26, 2007, 01:52:23 pm
http://www.slusho.jp/

what the fuck
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Bill Murray on September 26, 2007, 01:56:14 pm
Don't try to out topic me boi.

But that trailer is hot shit. Looks great.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 26, 2007, 02:10:25 pm
I am not trying to out topic you!

http://www.1-18-08.com

I just found out that this is a flash site and you can click and drag the photos around to view them better. I have just been clicking randomly so far trying to find links, but there were none. But I was reading on http://projectcloverfield.com/page/4/ and I found out that you can grab ahold of the photos, rotate your mouse in a circular movement and it will flip the photos. Some of them have messages on the back, but again, nothing concrete.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: xanque on September 26, 2007, 06:27:09 pm
I am dying to find out what this movie is all about.  I hope it's a big monster movie from the eyes of a couple of people, and they're filming it.  I love the Blair Witch style, but that's just me.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Bill Murray on September 26, 2007, 06:57:43 pm
Man, they're trying to put mass-hysteria/advertising like they did with Lost.

How many websites do they really need?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Liman on September 26, 2007, 07:19:17 pm
That monster really reminds me of Sin from Final Fantasy X...

As for the film itself: No doubt one of the most anticipated films coming next year in my opinion. The trailer was actually kinda scary and the marketing method is pretty interesting. I'm really curious where this project is going and the meaning of "Cloverfield"... if there really is a meaning or just a working title.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Shinan on September 26, 2007, 08:06:39 pm
Cthulhu in the sky with diamonds...

Instead of having to watch crappy youtube quality there's also http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/ for the HD version of the trailer.

It does look kinda neat, but I have a feeling that this teaser is nothing like it will end up like. The whole home-camera angle will probably be lost completely for a more conventional movie once we get to know more about what it's about.

However I wouldn't mind some Cthulhu, though that's a long shot. And if I don't get Cthulhu I wouldn't mind focusing on a few nonhero characters that just happen to be where the monster is attacking (a bit like the teaser is), not to mention that could cut down on the budget part of things, making the film not really about the monster but about coping with a monster around while other people fight it off. (A bit like the War of the Worlds remake tried to do)
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 27, 2007, 10:43:25 pm
I am pretty sure the ENTIRE BUDGET of the movie has gone on special effects of the monster rather than other trivial things like actors and camera men and stuff.

Also I am stuck. NEED MORE CLUES<
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on September 28, 2007, 12:06:21 am
Something tells me that the wild speculation this movie has been getting will end up having been much more entertaining than the movie itself.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 28, 2007, 12:12:20 am
Something tells me that the wild speculation this movie has been getting will end up having been much more entertaining than the movie itself.

Considering it is still about 4 months until the film is released, and updates are SLOW, I think people will get bored and lose interest long before the film is released.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ragnar on September 28, 2007, 01:00:34 am
God I hate viral marketing
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Randy Moist on September 28, 2007, 05:42:17 am
Yea advertising should be boring, in your face repeats of HEAD ON. How dare advertisers try and be creative about it  :fogetnah:
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Jester on September 28, 2007, 09:33:59 am
you're allowed to hate viral marketing, bloodbath. i like it but only when other people point me to links. i hate stupid NORPRON things.

edit: whats up with that slusho site? the only stuff i can find are whale related comments on the happy talk page.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 28, 2007, 09:38:27 am
I am getting bored of trying to find things already.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Vellfire on September 29, 2007, 01:00:08 pm
I'm all for things like ARGs, but not in advertising.




I mean, you already know what the prize is...SECRET MOVIE INFO.  Not worth the work.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 30, 2007, 10:26:45 pm
(http://projectcloverfield.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/hiiiyah.png)

This is getting slow.

EDIT: someone tell me what it says on the back of this photo on 1-18-08.com
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: RPG on September 30, 2007, 10:37:44 pm
EDIT: someone tell me what it says on the back of this photo on 1-18-08.com

from http://projectcloverfield.com/2007/09/28/finally-a-new-photo-at-1-18-08com/#comments
Quote
“Everybody, thank you for viewing! I’ll introduce this week’s delicious recipe. Please make sure to keep this one cold!

*Skinless chicken breast - 2, cut in halves
*Soumen (a kind of japanese noodle) - 10 oz.
*Watercress - 1/2 cup cut into small strips
*Turnip - 1/2 cup, thinly sliced
*Shiitake (japanese mushrooms) - 1/2 cup
*Chicken stock - 1/3 cup
*Sake (japanese rice wine) - 2 tbsp.
*Sugar - 1/2 tsp.
*Ocean-bottom crab - one

In a small saucepan, stir together 1/3 cup water, chicken stock, sake, and sugar. Chill it until it becomes cold. Grill the chicken breast on both sides for about 8 minutes, and then chill. Boil the noodles for about 3 minutes, and then run under cold water until chilled. Mix the watercress, turnips, and mushrooms into the soumen. Slice the chicken thinly and arrange on top of the soumen mix. Just before you serve, put the crab in the sauce and pour over the noodles generously.

Go go Oishii (”delicious”) Chef! ”
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on September 30, 2007, 11:28:48 pm
Fabulous.

Man I even got the image off that site and I didn't see that.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on October 01, 2007, 12:18:42 pm
http://tagruato.jp/

After reading through this website I am almost 100% sure that Slusho is the cause of what is going on. It is pretty fucked up but this Slusho stuff is everywhere surrounding Cloverfield right now. Just browse through that website link above and they don't shut up about it.

Here is the quote where I got the information about that link.

Quote
Someone at Bad Robot finally decided they might need to start working on the Cloverfield Project. Earlier this week saw a new picture added to the 1-18-08 website featuring a Japanese cook and his recipe. Today we have the Tagruato Corp website, which by all indications is fully involved with the 1-18-08/Cloverfield/Slusho movie.

JJ Abrams TV hit show 'Lost' has been fueled with mystery by the viral and fictitious Hanso Foundation. Those guys were a scientific group that created the orientation videos and various buildings on the island for unknown experiments.

Now, Abrams seems to have taken a page out of his own book and created another fictitious organization and having subsidiaries which include the infamous Slusho company. The Tagruato Corp is a deep sea petroleum drilling company based out of Japan with industry related subsidiaries.

Here is a statement from Tagruato Corp CEO Ganu Yoshida:

    Tagruato is a collective of top scientists, engineers, and businessmen committed to leading our investors and the whole of mankind into the future.

    We regard ourselves as explorers, and believe there is much more our planet has to offer than has already been discovered. We view every challenge as an opportunity for innovation. With our groundbreaking deep-sea drilling technology, Tagruato has positioned itself to become a world leader in energy resources, medical research, advanced technology production, and consumable product.

    - Ganu Yoshida
    C.E.O

Subsidiaries of Tagruato include YOSHIDA MEDICAL RESEARCH, SLUSHO!, BOLD FUTURA LOGO, and ParafFUN! Wax Distributors.
YOSHIDA MEDICAL RESEARCH (YMR)

YMR is a genetic research firm specializing in deep sea bioprospecting.

YMR is a genetic research firm specializing in deep sea bioprospecting. YMR implements Tagruato's advanced exploration technology to study extremophiles found only in the deepest parts of our oceans. The understanding of such organisms that thrive in conditions of extreme pressure, temperature, and toxicity has boundless pharmaceutical and industrial promise.

We explore cold seeps and seamounts, where species diversity is known to be as high a 1,000 per square meter. Hidden among these deep sea ecosystems is the potential for medical advancements that will contribute to the future well-being of mankind. YMR doctors are currently developing marine biotechnology drugs that may one day be used as anti-cancer, antioxidant, antibiotic, and anti-malaria.

Treatment applications for Alzheimer's disease, cystic fibrosis, and herpes are also under consideration. Our hope and our belief is that the work being done at YMR will prove to be the key to a cure for the diseases that have plagued mankind for centuries.
SLUSHO!

Created by Tagruato C.E.O. Ganu Yoshida, Slusho! brand happy drink is a icy cool beverage that is rapidly becoming one of the company's most profitable expenditures. Slusho! contains a "special ingredient" that customers can't get enough of. Bearing the slogan, "You can't drink just six!", Slusho! has grown to the second most popular frozen drink in all Asian markets.

Hip adult drinkers have begun concocting deliciously intoxicating alcoholic mix drinks starring Slusho! The beverage's popularity has spawned overwhelming sales of brand apparel, a hit theme song, and coming soon: an animated television show starring the Slusho! Flavor Droids! The next step is to introduce Slusho! to the rest of the world.

A search is on for top marketing professionals who will be tasked with duplicating the drink's Asian popularity in the Western market. Our aspiration is to one day place Slusho! dispensers in every convenience store and mini mart. Slusho zoom!
BOLD FUTURA

Bold Futura is the contractor sector of our company principally engaged in the conception, design, manufacture and integration of advanced technology products. Our engineering technology is the most superior of its kind. A machine made with Bold Futura parts works where others fall to pieces. A vehicle made with Bold Futura equipment will travel where others cannot reach.

Our unique ability to function in areas of severe temperature or pressure can have desirable implications for our clients. In the past, Bold Futura has partnered with military organizations, space exploration institutions, and arms manufacturers. Confidentiality is the first pillar of Bold Futura.

We keep the identities, orders, and intentions of our patrons strictly to ourselves. If you are interested in partnering with us, email us at the address below. Let's build a bold future -- together!
ParafFUN! WAX DISTRIBUTORS

One of the many byproducts of our Petroleum reservoir is paraffin wax, an alkane with dozens of handy uses in your day to day life! Edible, malleable, colorable, and a fine electrical insulator. ParafFun! Wax Distributors meets all your wax needs.

Making shiny candles? ParafFun!

Sealing a jar? ParafFun!
Coating your hard cheeses? ParafFun!
Gripping your surfboard? ParafFun!
Creating paintballs? ParafFun!
Preparing specimens for histology? ParafFun!
Coating your waxed paper? ParafFun!
Propelling your hybrid rocket motors? ParafFun!
Improved bowel movement? ParafFun!
Lighting your camping lantern? ParafFun!
Testing samples in infrared spectroscopy? ParafFun!
Moderating neutrons? ParafFun!
Making a box of crayons? ParafFun!

ParafFun! Rewax, it's ParafFun!
Drilling stations

We have fourteen drilling rigs strategically positioned around the globe, each a billion dollar marvel of modern engineering. One, the Chuai Station, is opening in September 2007 off the east coast of North America. [view interactive map]

Tagruato explores the final frontier on planet earth -- the deepest recesses of our oceans. Our scientists and engineers have created drilling technology that can withstand degrees of extreme pressure, cold, and heat never before thought possible. This groundbreaking feat of industrial triumph allows for research and retrieval in areas previously unexplored by man.

Tagruato covers the planet. We have fourteen drilling stations strategically positioned around the globe, each a billion dollar marvel of modern engineering. Thousands of hardworking, well-paid, satisfied Japanese employees man their posts with honor and integrity. From the Arctic Ocean to the Mid-Atlantic ridge, we go deep. Capable of excavation at distances exceeding 7,000 meters of water and 9,200 meters of seabed, the greatest depths of the oceans have been opened for business.

The implications are vast and bountiful. Tagruato boasts sole ownership of the functionality designs implemented in our drilling stations. This gives us unparalleled access to the natural resources that lie below the ocean floor. Namely Petroleum, the most sought-after resource in the world. Opening these new regions is projected to boost Japan's national oil reserves by as much as sixty percent. Analysts believe that with the bounty it is about to attain, Tagruato will soon join the ranks of the world's wealthiest corporations.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on October 01, 2007, 02:12:15 pm
Man, I like how this movie is going to involve evil soft drinks.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ragnar on October 01, 2007, 06:00:36 pm
Well I think viral marketing is dumb because you're going to have to watch commercials anyway and basically this is taking up your time for sake of promoting a product to yourself and if you spend more than 3 minutes on this shit you're a dick.

Although I'm all for hanging around the imdb forums or someplace AFTER you see a movie because by then you should be WHAT HAPPEN and have many questions and not before the movie even starts

Also this movie is more offensive to Asian people than I am
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Tau on October 04, 2007, 12:20:26 am
Its Godzilla!! and yeah Ragnar is right, this is offensive to Asian people. I saw this awhile back, looked alright, the CG still needs work but it was looking alright. It's about time someone made a proper Godzilla movie, after watching that last piece of shit they made.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: pburn on October 04, 2007, 12:23:55 am
Its Godzilla!! and yeah Ragnar is right, this is offensive to Asian people. I saw this awhile back, looked alright, the CG still needs work but it was looking alright. It's about time someone made a proper Godzilla movie, after watching that last piece of shit they made.
This isn't Godzilla.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ralph on October 07, 2007, 09:39:52 am
I SO hope this turns out to be Final Fantasy X: The Movie. Chances are small though.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: CorporateGreed on October 09, 2007, 10:00:59 am
I like where this is going, and i am completely in love with the marketing they're doing, although
I think it has other uses too.

If they're really going to make this movie from the perception of bystanders using camera's, mobile
phones and all that jazz, there won't be a lot of story.

hence, the sites and the background information currently being spread. I suspect this movie is one
you'll have to watch and read to understand, and'll be left open to your own intepretation.

Which would mean it'd be a lot like Lost, but i love that too.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on October 09, 2007, 10:39:16 pm
Guys at :38 in the trailer you hear a girl say "R'lyeh" so I guess it is Call of Cthulu after all!
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Shinan on November 03, 2007, 08:07:56 am
There's apparently going to be a trailer for this in front of Beowulf. Here's a description of what it has:
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12367
It doesn't seem like it will show too much. But. You know. There's monsters.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 04, 2007, 04:30:53 pm
Guys at :38 in the trailer you hear a girl say "R'lyeh" so I guess it is Call of Cthulu after all!



oh shit you are right!
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on November 04, 2007, 09:33:04 pm
woah i had 1-18-08.com on while i was watching the trailer again and right when the monster roars in the trailer the monster roared on the site and the same time and it kinda scared me

but yeah even though i can hear someone saying "r'lyeh" i'm not so sure if it has to do with cthulu.  i've never actually read any of the cthulu mythos but according to my friend people die just by looking at it so i don't know how well that works with the trailer.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Beasley on November 05, 2007, 12:59:04 am
what is Cthulu. the wiki page on it is MASSIVE and i'd rather not wade through it. so what is it
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Jester on November 05, 2007, 01:01:59 am
Cthulhu is a fictional being created by horror author H. P. Lovecraft, and is one of Lovecraft's Great Old Ones.[1] It is often cited for the extreme descriptions given of its appearance, size, and the abject terror that it invokes. Because of this reputation, Cthulhu is often referred to in science fiction and fantasy circles as a tongue-in-cheek shorthand for extreme horror or evil.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on November 05, 2007, 01:18:12 am
Guys at :38 in the trailer you hear a girl say "R'lyeh" so I guess it is Call of Cthulu after all!



Man, that is creepily obvious once you know to look out for it. I don't know how you spotted it but it is actually pretty clear.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on November 05, 2007, 01:29:44 am
you know, I think Roman is the first person to notice it! I haven't seen ANYONE say anything like it!
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on November 05, 2007, 01:35:32 am
you know, I think Roman is the first person to notice it! I haven't seen ANYONE say anything like it!

No me neither. I don't really know much about Cthulhu myself but apparently that is the name of the city where he is buried, according to Wikipedia. And I've watched the trailer through 3 or 4 times now just to double check and it pretty clearly sounds like someone is saying "R'lyeh." I don't know if it is just a DROPPED HINT or what, I don't think the companies were expecting the trailer to become an viral internet thing rather than just a short promo spot on the front of transformers. But yeah, from what I can see a Cthulhu movie would be awesome.

I haven't looked into this in a while but SPOILERS APPARENTLY (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12367)
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Kaempfer on November 08, 2007, 07:29:42 pm
The girl saying R'lyeh- after you are listening for it and can actually hear it- it REALLY scary, for some reason. It's just SO under-the-skin and really obvious once you are listening for it, but I completely missed it on my first watch-through.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Avatar on November 09, 2007, 01:47:52 am
At the end of the trailer someone mentions a "large lion" or something?  Does anyone have any ideas about that?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on November 09, 2007, 02:09:23 am
At the end of the trailer someone mentions a "large lion" or something?  Does anyone have any ideas about that?

Some people think that one guy says "I saw it!  It's a lion!  It's huge!" near the end.  That's not what he says.  He says, "It's alive," not "It's a lion."
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Avatar on November 09, 2007, 02:48:50 am
Oh, hahaha.  I remember hearing about that now that I think about it from a few other people on other forums. 
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: ObviousDelirium on November 13, 2007, 01:50:06 am
She says "the myth", not "R'lyeh".
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on November 13, 2007, 09:45:08 am
She says "the myth", not "R'lyeh".

according to who?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Randy Moist on November 15, 2007, 08:26:57 am
who says it? I can't hear anything but the song

Edit: or is the song?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on November 15, 2007, 11:45:21 am
who says it? I can't hear anything but the song

Edit: or is the song?

It's not a character that says it, it's a voiceover at the exact point in time that the power cuts out for the first time.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Shinan on November 15, 2007, 01:09:47 pm
It is the big groaning sound that sounds a lot more like "wrngngngngogngng" than "myth", "rlyeh" or "my dad molested me". At least that's how I see it.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on November 15, 2007, 02:19:33 pm
It is the big groaning sound that sounds a lot more like "wrngngngngogngng" than "myth", "rlyeh" or "my dad molested me". At least that's how I see it.

Yeah, Except instead of going wrngngngngogngng it is a woman's voice and she is whispering and it sounds like "rlyeh"
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Jester on November 15, 2007, 03:02:40 pm
but she is saying the myth because i said so♠
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: ObviousDelirium on November 16, 2007, 01:58:40 am
http://www.cloverfield-movie.com/blog/?p=52
There's the voice somewhat cut from the trailer here and it sounds much more like "the myth".
Unless R'lyeh is pronounced a bit like that?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Shinan on November 17, 2007, 02:38:25 pm
http://1-18-08.blogspot.com/2007/11/cloverfield-trailer-2-high-quality.html
The trailer is out on YouTube. The quality is pretty bad so far and I haven't seen it yet myself because I don't have sound at the moment.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Jester on November 18, 2007, 08:06:09 pm
r'lyeh is pronounced "rll-yeah"

so yeah it sounds like r'lyeh or the myth depending on what you want it to sound like

keep in mind the last sound on the snippet there isnt part of the same voice (i hope you noticed that, lol)

so yeah it's more either r'lyeh or the muh
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Shinan on November 20, 2007, 07:24:09 am
and yes a proper version of the trailer. It has one shot of something interesting at little over halfway through there's two shadows. Other than that it doesn't really show anything but feel. I'm not sure I'm too excited about the film since I have a feeling the camera might be a bit too shaky and all that.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Stranglehanz on November 20, 2007, 07:50:07 am
this trailer is about as revealing as the trailer for that movie Signs.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 16, 2008, 08:40:20 pm
IGNORE THIS POST UNTIL THE SCREENER ACTUALLY DOES LEAK.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ragnar on January 16, 2008, 09:21:43 pm
So people actually care about this movie

It looks like it'll explain about as much as the finale of the X-Files without having some sort of interesting plot to be resolved in the first place
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on January 16, 2008, 10:16:54 pm
yeah by the way i think this movie's going to suck but i'm still really curious about the monster :(
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Iaman on January 17, 2008, 02:44:23 am
So, yeah, guys, I just saw this, and I must say, I was RATHER impressed.  (due to various connections, I'm able to see certain movies for free before they come out in theaters)

The monster and its mannerisms pretty much perfectly emulate the old-school "giant monster" feel and the acting, while slightly odd at some points, is generally very well done.  The camera work manages to show you just enough to keep you watching the movie but not so much that you feel like you know everything that's going on.  In fact, one of the things I was impressed with the most was how well the movie seemed to withhold information from me and the other viewers.  And it ended like I hoped it would, which I give them bonus points for.

All in all, I'd say the movie was executed RATHER well.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Tau on January 17, 2008, 06:39:10 am
Actually I live in New Zealand and because of the time difference, I can go see it now, but I got no money right now haha. It's just like with Halo 3, came out here first. Anyways, looks pretty cool from what Ive seen in the trailers, I just hope you see a lot of whatever hits the city.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Christophomicus on January 17, 2008, 02:24:40 pm
Fuck yeah, just got back from it. There were a few annoying minor niggles with it, but seriously, fuck yeah, that definitely lived up to my expectations.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 17, 2008, 03:11:26 pm
spoil the plot please :)
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Iaman on January 17, 2008, 07:12:55 pm
spoil the plot please :)
It's not really anything special...  Monster attacks, people run, you follow a group of friends trying to get to one of their friends who lives near central park and try and get out alive.  That's pretty much it.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Kaworu on January 17, 2008, 07:18:26 pm
So it's essentially the 1997 Godzilla movie?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Jester on January 17, 2008, 07:55:50 pm
no it doesnt have raptors
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: alucard on January 17, 2008, 09:18:21 pm
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Marcus on January 17, 2008, 09:37:06 pm
So it's essentially the 1997 Godzilla movie?

It's basically Blair Witch + destroy-the-city monster movies.  Instead of focusing on a badass crack team of unrealistic mercenaries tasked with killing the monster, it focuses on a group of friends who are trying to survive in the chaos.  It's a nice twist on an otherwise generic genre.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Randy Moist on January 18, 2008, 08:20:01 am
Well I was reminded a lot of the Tom Cruise War of the Worlds with blair witch. Yea the visuals were great the audio I suppose too (I was pretty engrossed in it) and the acting and dialogue were very good I thought. But I can't help thinking so what afterwards. It's just like War of the Worlds where you follow just a few people and their tiny unimportant adventure. And I mean I didn't want a scientist to come out and say "Oh hey this is what it is" or whatever, but at the same time I was hoping for more clues than what was given. I mean there a ARG to go with this right? But all the mystery and all the anticipation for this was pointless as it was exactly what you gathered from the trailer, nothing more or less.

I still thought it was fun to watch and I'd rate it high or whatever and recommend it.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: CorporateGreed on January 18, 2008, 01:18:52 pm
What I wonder about is, do you actually get to see the monster?
Because as far as I read, it doesn't actually show well in the movie. If that's
actually true, I'd be a real let-down for me.
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Post by: alucard on January 18, 2008, 08:10:19 pm
no you get to see it a few times throughout the movie, a lot of shaky glimpses and quick pan throughs.

then at the end you get to see it up close for a good 10 seconds as it's looking at hud the camera man .
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Post by: Randy Moist on January 18, 2008, 08:20:03 pm
Yea was the fact that it had ? I only ask because it seemed like the major focus of the monster in that last seen
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Post by: Cheesy Doritos on January 19, 2008, 02:20:17 am
Yeah a pretty good movie! The only disappointing part was really just the
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Post by: Christophomicus on January 19, 2008, 02:40:08 am
Really, Cheesy? All I saw was a logo flash up for like .5 seconds after the credits finished. What gave you that indication? :O (not trying to pick at you, just curious)
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 19, 2008, 03:04:55 am
it says backwards at the end of the movie.

I didn't like this much btw.
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Post by: Cheesy Doritos on January 19, 2008, 03:33:01 am
Yeah, basically what Steel said.

Although, when my friends and I first heard it, we thought it was
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Post by: Marcus on January 19, 2008, 03:38:00 am
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I didn't like this much btw.

why am i not surprised

go back to the diving bell and the butterfag movie snob.  if you don't like last man on urth for its great acting and whoelsom family values then you dont like movies at all.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 19, 2008, 03:46:05 am
I never saw that movie someone give me it.

also I guess my real problem with the movie was how it had no point other than being 9/11 porn! I can elaborate but I think no one wants that.

also also I'm not sure yet because it was good at parts and bad mostly.
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on January 19, 2008, 03:53:15 am
So.... what did Slusho have to do with the movie?
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 19, 2008, 04:28:22 am
nothing at all which really disappointed me.
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Post by: alucard on January 19, 2008, 04:42:39 am
I think one of the characters had on a slusho t-shirt, but like steel said they didn't have a thing to do with it. So pretty much all that viral marketing and clues people spent so much time on trying to decode and figure out was all a waste of time or just a back story . Kind of a slap in the face to all the fans who spent all that time on it but whatever it didn't really bother me much.

Overall I was pretty disappointed with the movie as a whole and wouldn't really recommend it to anyone, but that's just my opinion.  The shaky camera kind of gave me a head ache after about 20 minutes, so that didn't help much at all.
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Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on January 19, 2008, 04:50:54 am
1. Made me fucking nauseous.  The constant running scenes became extremely annoying.

2. What the hell was with that ending? The least they could do is at least have someone pick up the tape recorder a year later or SOMETHING, it was way too abrupt. The very last black screen remained for 10 seconds and when the credits rolled the audience simultaneously all yelled "what the? that's it?"

3. Pretty much just simulates 9/11 and the Iraq war.

4. What the fuck just happened?


Not that bad of a movie otherwise, though -- it's basically Godzilla meets Blair With Project.  Also, Nokia product placement was far too obvious.
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Post by: Christophomicus on January 19, 2008, 04:53:10 am
Yeah, FP, I was going to mention that. My brother and I spotted like 60000 Nokia phones, then just as many Nokia ads.
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Post by: Cheesy Doritos on January 19, 2008, 05:47:39 am
Honestly the camera didn't bother me. I got used to it after 10 minutes and then I was fine.
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Post by: Randy Moist on January 19, 2008, 07:50:38 am
Cool story my brother threw up but it was really was a combination of the guy next to him was pretty smelly and the motion sickness. But Trystero was saying he heard a lot of people threw up so that's really funny.
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Post by: Marcus on January 19, 2008, 08:21:06 am
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Kind of a slap in the face to all the fans who spent all that time on it but whatever it didn't really bother me much.

That wasn't the point of the viral marketing.  Their goal was to keep people from knowing what they were doing while still generating buzz.  Kind of like how Star Wars Episode 6 masked itself as Blue Harvest because if they said 'hay, we are filming sequel to popular movie' then people with fucking video cameras would be all over it trying to get details.

Personally, I think some of you are missing the point of the movie particularly

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2. What the hell was with that ending? The least they could do is at least have someone pick up the tape recorder a year later or SOMETHING, it was way too abrupt. The very last black screen remained for 10 seconds and when the credits rolled the audience simultaneously all yelled "what the? that's it?"

The movie isn't supposed to have an explanation.  It's a fucking videotape being recorded by a bunch of dumb white teenagers.  Do you honestly expect the monster to be RED HERRING for something deeper or a mysterious scientist character to appear and explain to the random civilians that "this monster came from the deep.  Here is a scientific analogy of the creature!"  Look at the remake Dawn of the Dead or any of Romero's classic, untouched zombie films.  While it's "hinted" that radiation is the cause of the zombies the story never tells you how they came to be but the whole point behind the movie is entertaining you with action and blood (or in the case of Romero's films, the downfall of capitalism and retirement or whatever stupid moral message he tried to fit in them).

It was designed with some Cthulian mythos behind it.  You don't know what it is.  You're not supposed to know what it is.  The story is about survival, not how a bunch of plucky teens discover the origins behind a terrifying and unnatural if not SUPERNATURAL monster. 

When the movie was first labeled and all the previews came out I feared that the directors would cave in and show the beast.  For whatever reason, American moviegoers are completely incapable of withholding information.  Look at Alien; you rarely see the alien itself and it was fucking terrifying for a 70s movie but if it was remade then the alien would be all CG and you'd see it in every panel which would kill the effect.  Our greatest fears are the unknown but people instantly hate it when they leave the theaters having to think for themselves.  I always thought people complained when shit was put on a silver platter for them but now all I hear is "jjadams didnt tell me every detail about monster stupid fuckig film boooooooooo."

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lso I guess my real problem with the movie was how it had no point other than being 9/11 porn! I can elaborate but I think no one wants that.

Please elaborate.  I want to hear your side of this.  I don't think it's capitalizing off 9/11 at all.  It is extremely difficult to have ANYTHING set in New York where the city explodes without having people painfully remember 9/11 but it was a monster movie.  It's not like the ending had every citizen crowding around the city remains in a candlelight visage while Toby Keith sings a somber eulogy to those that fell.

I enjoyed the film all the way to the very end where they actually showed the monster up close.  It completely DESTROYED the mystery behind it and the film went from a SURVIVE THE CHAOS movie into a CHEAP MONSTER FLICK.  The ending itself was realistic.  There were no heroes in this story.  Nobody came out on top and killed the beast singlehandedly.  All you had left where the character's memories which seemed like a poignant message enough.

I wouldn't go out of my way to give this film a golden globe or fifty million awards but it's a pretty original flick as far as building up a foundation from nothing (the original trailer didn't even have a title... first in American film??) and it's a pretty decent thriller.

7 outta 10 maybe?

EDIT: Haha, here's the developer's official statement on the monster.

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The producer J.J. Abrams says, "The concept for the monster is simple. He's a baby. He's brand-new. He's confused, disoriented and irritable. And he's been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years."

And then I found this really awesome statement by the writer who pretty said what I said.

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And where is he from? "We don't say deliberately," notes the writer, Drew Goddard. "Our movie doesn't have the scientist in the white lab coat who shows up and explains things like that. We don't have that scene."
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 19, 2008, 03:47:13 pm
right, first off, you have to understand why people make movies; they are meant to show us something, however flimsy the premise. this is ESPECIALLY true with science fiction. Frankenstein was about how man shouldn't play God, King Kong's final line has a really stretched premise about how beauty destroys ambition, and Godzilla has its parallel to Hiroshima.

so what's the point in Cloverfield? the monster is never elaborated on, so it can't be that. as far as I can tell it's to present a story. now what kind of story is it? honestly, if you really thought the love story was GOOD in any way, you won't have a problem, and apparently the Notebook would just break your heart.

no, to me, the point of the story was to show how people would react in a disaster. and therein lies the 9/11 problem. none of the characters are really that great in the movie, mostly developing motivations of "I...like you..." and we're supposed to treat this like a pseudo-documentary I suppose, but it just falls flat when you realize it's all just 9/11 shit over and over. there's that smarmy JJ Abrams gleam on everything too, like how we never get to see the monster till the end or how nothing in the viral marketing made any sense at all (Marcus, what are you talking about? virally marketing shit works on brands because people want to find out what's in the brand, like who the new Batman villain is or what Halo 3 is about. you can't do it well with a monster no one knows about, and it kind of falls flat when the site in question has nothing to do with anything). it all seems very Lost, with home cameras. no one is really allowed to develop in any scene, by necessity of the movie, and the whole movie is just OH MY GOD...THE CITY...THE PEOPLE...and it all struck me as very lame and hokey.

a random monster attacks a city for no reason we are given, and we follow a bunch of flat characters around while 9/11 happens all around them continuously. it's all rather boring and pointless and full of moments where JJ is probably looking at his audience, fist pumping his dick, because he's just so proud how clever he was!

and granted a bit of it is clever, like the flashbacks, but when none of it leads to any cool or significant plot moments, when it's all a documentary that gives no answers at all, all those cool little gimmicks are just kind of irritating. you're supposed to hold on and enjoy the ride, and in that aspect Cloverfield doesn't disappoint, but neither does Spiderman or the Incredibles or any other of thousands of movies.

it was just pretty disappointing for me, especially considering the original predicted premise of multiple cameras recording the monster, and it possibly being Godzilla or Cthulthu. Abrams couldn't get over his gimmicks long enough to have our characters be more than backstories that resolve themselves, and the result is a rather pornographic disaster movie that seems more like 9/11 than it does an actual film.

that being said, go ahead and see it if you already were going to. it's not a bad movie by any means, but it irritates me because I feel like it could have been so much more under a more competent director.
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Post by: Marcus on January 19, 2008, 05:20:07 pm
All right, reading your response I see we have two totally different ideas of what films should be.  As far as I'm concerned, I go to films to be entertained or at the very least to have my emotional strings pulled.  If the movie has a message, like There Will Be Blood's "greed vs. fanaticism + there is only moral grey area" then I take it in and make note of it.  Often times the message is what adds to the entertainment but I have absolutely no problem spending 5 quid to see a vapid film about shit getting blown up.  I try my hardest not to support garbage like MEET THE SPARTANS but if a movie shows even the slightest bit of competence I try to get excited.

I agree the whole love triangle thing was hokey and the characters had this sort of altruistic Japanese anime I LIKE THIS GIRL I WILL RISK LIFE N LIMB TO SAVE HER thing going on but while the movie was definitely dark and depressing I think the whole idea behind it wasn't people reacting to a disaster so much as a commentary on monster movies in general.  Maybe I'm over thinking things but in EVERY blow-up-the-city monster movie the focus is on romanticizing the monster and making the humans look bad.  Here, we have this horrible, terrible beast that's just ruining everyones lives and fuck... everyone dies.  I left the theater somewhat depressed but shit blew up so I was happy.

With that said, I rarely follow Hollywood.  I didn't even know who Abrams was until someone said "oh yeah he directed lost r sumthing" and I replied "lost... is that the show where people crash land on a deserted island but it's not really deserted and there's this guy who throws knives and this fat guy who looks like claudio sanchez and this little black kid and this pregnant lady and YEAH I NEVER SAW A SINGLE EPISODE OF LOST!" 

In all honesty I watch so very little of prime time television and the latest blockbusters that everything is good to me.  I hate driving around town with traffic and gas prices so I just download whatever I need to watch and ignore all the trailers.  The last film (before this one) I saw in theaters was...

...eh, i'll get back to you on that.
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Post by: Impeal on January 19, 2008, 07:38:23 pm
I liked how the monster had no explanation, if only because there's no way to explain something like that and not have it sound ridiculous, y'know? Like, if they tried to put in some backstory on where it came from or what it was, people probably would've just rolled their eyes and been like "oh, yeah, right."

I think it could've done with even less story, actually. Because like Steel and Marcus pointed out, the love story aspect fell way short. It wasn't believable at all, and made for some of the worst scenes in the movie.

Overall though, I liked it, and I would recommend it. If you have even a vague idea of what the concept is (all from handheld), then you really shouldn't be bothered too much by the constant shaking. It wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Also, it was a great movie theater movie. Like, I saw it with a really loud audience, and that helped add some to the entertainment. Even people who disliked it responded strongly. And this movie really lent itself well to an over active audience, because there's no exposition that you have to try and pay attention to, or anything like that. In fact, now that I think about it, this movie wont be as cool on DVD as it was in theaters.
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 19, 2008, 07:39:14 pm
interesting side story: every review I've read about this has mentioned that a significant amount of people got sick from all the motion camera, since unlike blairwitch or other handheld cam movies, this one moves a lot more.
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Post by: Impeal on January 19, 2008, 07:44:16 pm
Yeah, I had read a lot of the same stuff before seeing it, and I was surprised by how still it was. It was very clear most of the time, and I didn't notice anybody having any problems with it in the theater I was at.

Also, did you notice how in the end when Do you think they did that on purpose, as an homage or something?
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Post by: Kaworu on January 19, 2008, 08:45:43 pm
I kinda want to see this but if it's just gunna be HEY RUINED NEW YORK + scared people, then that kinda sucks, because the whole TERRORISM SURVIVORS parallel was done to death after like before the end of 2002, and provides a flimsey one dimensional subtext, and monster movies generally have such great potential (such as godzilla).
Also I remember reading that tonnes of people (back then when a tonne was more than one and a half people) got motion sickness from Blair Witch, some people are just sensitive like that.
But man I am a huge war of the worlds(book) fag so I tend to expect survivor stories to be more reliant on musical farts.
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Post by: Ragnar on January 20, 2008, 01:57:52 am
right, first off, you have to understand why people make movies; they are meant to show us something, however flimsy the premise. this is ESPECIALLY true with science fiction. Frankenstein was about how man shouldn't play God, King Kong's final line has a really stretched premise about how beauty destroys ambition, and Godzilla has its parallel to Hiroshima.

so what's the point in Cloverfield? the monster is never elaborated on, so it can't be that. as far as I can tell it's to present a story. now what kind of story is it? honestly, if you really thought the love story was GOOD in any way, you won't have a problem, and apparently the Notebook would just break your heart.

no, to me, the point of the story was to show how people would react in a disaster. and therein lies the 9/11 problem. none of the characters are really that great in the movie, mostly developing motivations of "I...like you..." and we're supposed to treat this like a pseudo-documentary I suppose, but it just falls flat when you realize it's all just 9/11 shit over and over. there's that smarmy JJ Abrams gleam on everything too, like how we never get to see the monster till the end or how nothing in the viral marketing made any sense at all (Marcus, what are you talking about? virally marketing shit works on brands because people want to find out what's in the brand, like who the new Batman villain is or what Halo 3 is about. you can't do it well with a monster no one knows about, and it kind of falls flat when the site in question has nothing to do with anything). it all seems very Lost, with home cameras. no one is really allowed to develop in any scene, by necessity of the movie, and the whole movie is just OH MY GOD...THE CITY...THE PEOPLE...and it all struck me as very lame and hokey.

a random monster attacks a city for no reason we are given, and we follow a bunch of flat characters around while 9/11 happens all around them continuously. it's all rather boring and pointless and full of moments where JJ is probably looking at his audience, fist pumping his dick, because he's just so proud how clever he was!

and granted a bit of it is clever, like the flashbacks, but when none of it leads to any cool or significant plot moments, when it's all a documentary that gives no answers at all, all those cool little gimmicks are just kind of irritating. you're supposed to hold on and enjoy the ride, and in that aspect Cloverfield doesn't disappoint, but neither does Spiderman or the Incredibles or any other of thousands of movies.

it was just pretty disappointing for me, especially considering the original predicted premise of multiple cameras recording the monster, and it possibly being Godzilla or Cthulthu. Abrams couldn't get over his gimmicks long enough to have our characters be more than backstories that resolve themselves, and the result is a rather pornographic disaster movie that seems more like 9/11 than it does an actual film.

that being said, go ahead and see it if you already were going to. it's not a bad movie by any means, but it irritates me because I feel like it could have been so much more under a more competent director.

Holy shit I love you

Edit: So is Cloverfield like the Rudy Giuliani of movies
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Post by: Fish on January 20, 2008, 07:58:14 am
I really enjoyed this movie.

I don't really want to try to tackle everyones complaints because for one I don't need everyone to like it with me, and secondly its practically impossible to change message board user's opinions.

I think the love story part of the plot suffers from the format and presentation of the movie. Relationships aren't usually simple things, especially when they're dysfunctional or not your own and the fact that this movie doesn't offer a lot of back story doesn't really help this out. From what I picked up this wasn't some girl the lead just sorta liked, they had been friends 'forever' most likely he had always loved her and then they had their one night of passion, blah blah then he whimpered out. Then bam, hes going to Japan they're both stubborn, leave on really bad terms, ruined their prior relationship and then hey the world is ending.

Everyone is confronted with their own mortality, the fragility of life and the fact that we're not all invincible and he realizes that hes an idiot and doesn't want to leave the girl thinking he doesn't care about her. A significant point is that he knows Beth isn't okay, he gets the call shes hurt shes stuck shes going to die without help, theres no thought that hey 'I'll fix things between us once this all blows over'. If he evacuates when he has the chance, shes not going to be there and hes going to go on living realizing that he was a dick to this girl he loved and she died thinking he didn't care about her and he maybe had a chance to save her.

Without the love story it would of been a humanistic viewpoint of the monster/disaster genre but one missing alot of aspects of humanity. When shits going down and the worlds falling out around you, yes you're wanting to survive but you're also fearing for the lives of those you love.

Also, all the gripes about the 9/11 imagery are being a little unfair. Yes its in NYC and hey theres destruction, uncertainty, and people being afraid, but its not going to far or being exploitive.
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Post by: helter skelter on January 20, 2008, 12:39:12 pm
Fish, if you actually thought the love story was a positive you need to see some better films.
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Post by: Cho on January 20, 2008, 08:18:56 pm
Re: Viral Clues/Monster's Origin/Etc
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Post by: Fish on January 20, 2008, 08:29:02 pm
I don't think its a positive, but I think they developed it the most they could of through the format the film utilizes.

I'm not trying to say its one of the most emotional and romantic love story ever in film, I just think it was satisfying enough to justify where the plot goes.
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Post by: Marcus on January 20, 2008, 10:04:31 pm
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Yes, apparently it does have something to do with Slusho.

There was a character in the movie who wore a slusho t-shirt as a in-joke.

There you go.
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Post by: Cho on January 20, 2008, 10:34:09 pm
There was a character in the movie who wore a slusho t-shirt as a in-joke.

There you go.

Well, that and
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Post by: parasun on January 21, 2008, 09:11:53 am
I don't think its a positive, but I think they developed it the most they could of through the format the film utilizes.

I'm not trying to say its one of the most emotional and romantic love story ever in film, I just think it was satisfying enough to justify where the plot goes.

I agree with you. Without the usual tricks movies use to convey emotion it is hard to connect emotionally. If they had done much else it would have taken away from the realistic side of things, which was the whole point of the hand cam format. I hate to hear people calling the hand cam thing a gimmick, too. To me it made the entire situation real. I loved this movie for what it was, a new way to look at an old, overdone story rather than another Hollywood monster movie. If I had went into the movie not knowing what it was supposed to be like I may have initially been disappointed at the lack on conventionalism, but I would have learned to love it still.
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Post by: pburn on January 22, 2008, 12:16:54 am
I just saw this today. Personally I really enjoyed this film and was pretty satisfied in the end. I didn't really think this was the best movie, but probably the only film of this kind I will ever experience.

That camera musta have had crazy ass battery life and durability. The fact that the tape survived shitloads of explosions..
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Post by: parasun on January 22, 2008, 12:58:48 am
I just saw this today. Personally I really enjoyed this film and was pretty satisfied in the end. I didn't really think this was the best movie, but probably the only film of this kind I will ever experience.

That camera musta have had crazy ass battery life and durability. The fact that the tape survived shitloads of explosions..

I think all the footage was on an SD card, not a tape. Not that is really makes a difference lol.
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Post by: Shalkadaprogrammer on January 24, 2008, 02:23:47 am
I was one of the people the movie made nauseous. I had to take my leave for a bit and dry heave a little. But I still love the movie. It made me think more than every other movie I have seen. Gratuitous deaths aside, it was  :gwa:​! I have family in New York, so that hit close to home for me. Scary! :shocking: Btw I think all the viral messaging including the Slusho drink is back story. Maybe the company unearths the monster.
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Post by: Roman on January 24, 2008, 05:32:07 am
It made me think more than every other movie I have seen.

you must not watch a lot of movies huh

anyway i saw this and uh yeah it was pretty cool.  after watching it i bought a nokia phone and sipped on some mountain dew but i'm not sure why???
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Post by: Acid on January 24, 2008, 09:32:28 am
My thoughts..-

Wow wtf just happened.
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Post by: kentona on January 24, 2008, 03:09:34 pm
anyway i saw this and uh yeah it was pretty cool.  after watching it i bought a nokia phone and sipped on some mountain dew but i'm not sure why???
I did the same thing after watching Transformers.....weird.
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Post by: jsnnoa on January 24, 2008, 07:30:39 pm
I really enjoyed this. I just wish there was more of the monster... but I understand why there wasn't. I think I read somewhere they might make a sequel following a different group of people through the same attack. That would be cool.
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Post by: dom on January 24, 2008, 10:20:07 pm
There was a character in the movie who wore a slusho t-shirt as a in-joke.

There you go.
There is also a scene one of the last Heroes episodes in which a woman is drinking Slusho.
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Post by: Ryan on January 24, 2008, 10:52:52 pm
I really liked this movie.

although i thought was pretty lame
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Post by: Mongoloid on January 25, 2008, 03:42:26 am


Also,


There's probably going to be more to it though. Hopefully a direct connection from the monster to the badguys.
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Post by: Christophomicus on January 25, 2008, 04:08:11 pm
Man, that's ridiculously complicated and far-fetched (@Eric).

This movie totally does not hold up to a second viewing, btw, I went to see it again to try and catch the at the end and because a bud hadn't seen it and wanted someone to go with, and found myself very bored through pretty much the whole film.
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Post by: Mateui on January 26, 2008, 07:28:59 pm
I have to say that I went in totally blind to it (I only knew that it was a JJ film and that something mysterious was attacking NY) and I actually enjoyed it. Perhaps it didn't have an amazing thought-provoking story, but that really wasn't the point of the film. We were meant to see the events of the Cloverfield as they were seen by Hudd and his group of friends. We were not supposed to be omniscient, viewing the film's events from above and having everything explained to us. That's how a typical director would film this type of movie. Instead, we got to experience a different kind of feeling - the feeling of being right there amidst the terror and confusion, including the feeling of a touch of nausea. It definetely worked for what it was. The people who are disappointed in it are those who wanted this to be told from a different viewpoint or who unneedlessly hyped it up for themselves.

Am I a little disappointed in not knowing how the creature originated and what happened in the after-math? Of course, as I'm sure we're all curious as that is human nature. However, it would have been far more absurd to have an explanation thrown in at the end after the whole movie was told in a first-person narrative. How often in life are we going to have all the answers? If the answers would have been revealed to us we wouldn't have been able to connect with the protagonists as well as we were able to in this film. We only know what they know, nothing more, and we're experiencing close to what they went through in the process. Cloverfield is a hauntingly beautiful piece of a horrific life-changing experience shown through the eyes (camera) of an ordinary man caught in the middle of a situation he has no knowledge about. It truely is a movie experience like no other.

I have to say that I think this movie would make an awesome thrill ride at Universal Studios. Also, I <3ed Marlena and her sarcastic comments throughout the film.
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Post by: Shalkadaprogrammer on January 27, 2008, 12:34:06 am
you must not watch a lot of movies huh

anyway i saw this and uh yeah it was pretty cool.  after watching it i bought a nokia phone and sipped on some mountain dew but i'm not sure why???

Actually all it made me buy was a 3 gallon jug of Pepto....
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Post by: Fire Mage on January 27, 2008, 07:19:31 pm
I went with 4 other friends and all of us hated it. There's a lot of arguing and I'm not going to repeat what people said here.

But basically, I think the idea was good, but it was executed VERY poorly.
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Post by: Roman on January 27, 2008, 08:00:48 pm
I went with 4 other friends and all of us hated it. There's a lot of arguing and I'm not going to repeat what people said here.

But basically, I think the idea was good, but it was executed VERY poorly.

it was no the man from earth though

why exactly do you think it was poorly executed?  i'd like to hear it man i'm curious!
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 27, 2008, 08:38:28 pm
the acting was pretty bad and it all leads to a nothing story of some dude and some dudette who just can't love each other and it kind of annoyed me with smarm.

its okay but yeah I can see poor execution, especially considering how it nauseated people to watch (THATS THE AESTHETIC!!!)
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Post by: Hundley on January 27, 2008, 09:23:02 pm
my brother told me to watch this movie and i immediately strained/tore several important neck muscles holding myself back from punchfing him in face

j/k

actually i am expecting nothing from this movie but is it ridiculous/wild kinda like children of man or something? my mom really wants to go to the THEATRE sometime, probably to see this, so can i at least expect lots of ridiculous but vaguely interesting shit happening to help my eyes glaze over?
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 27, 2008, 09:30:27 pm
idk a lot of is 9/11 shit and i know you are an aficionado so you might not like it.

also it was waaayyyy hyped and it wasn't worth half of the hype.
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Post by: Mongoloid on January 27, 2008, 09:42:11 pm
the acting was pretty bad and it all leads to a nothing story of some dude and some dudette who just can't love each other and it kind of annoyed me with smarm.

It wasn't a nothing story about the couple; if it had not been for the two of them, the group wouldn't have gone back into manhattan, and thus no movie. If you're referring to the irrelevance of the group's video to the actual story behind the monster, then I agree, but you're missing the point of the movie. If you expected this to be Godzilla 2, then you should do more research on the movies you go to see.


Also, at the beginning, there are some words on the screen about the military having the camera in posession. That could mean that something in the movie has relevance to where the monster came from????
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Hundley on January 27, 2008, 09:43:21 pm
idk a lot of is 9/11 shit and i know you are an aficionado so you might not like it.
well i may be able to at least tolerate it(which is all i'm aiming for) if it's more about individuals and doesn't make some gigantic spectacle out of PATRIOTISM and SACRIFICE which is what really got under my skin about 9/11. also bonus points will be awarded if tops of buildings fall on the annoying characters. and x10 bonus points if MUCH marshmallow falls on the bad guy.

actually from the sound of it i probably won't be able to PHYSICALLY get past the jumpy camera anyway, and i usually hate things that give me a headache that i do not find very rewarding, so it probably won't matter anyway.

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also it was waaayyyy hyped and it wasn't worth half of the hype.
well fortunately i ignored all of that and what little i did see made me go PFFFFF YEA RIGHT(I HOPE THEY ALL FUCKING DIE)
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: weesman88 on January 27, 2008, 10:24:38 pm
the way they made this movie really put you inside of it. The way they filmed it was unique. I really liked it. I thought the monster was pretty cool, but they could have gone more in depth with it. They should have explained where it came from. I also thought that the plot was really good too. First it starts off as a love story and then a giant monster attack
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Fire Mage on January 28, 2008, 12:33:28 am
it was no the man from earth though

why exactly do you think it was poorly executed?  i'd like to hear it man i'm curious!
The idea was good: take a monster movie and actually do a different viewpoint than ARGH BLOW UP THE MONSTER GO MILITARY!

The whole group trying to survive was great, but the acting ruined it. Also, they tried to take the movie seriously even though it was too ridiculous most of the time (as others said, go after the girl who I barely love and risk my life!). Showing the monster quite ruined it too. I don't see how everyone is like "they showed it at the end." I'm pretty sure you could see it was stupid looking about 20 minutes after the initial explosions and stuff.

The acting just wasn't good, the "plot" was ridiculous (and cliché with the save this girl thing) and it was just not well done.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: dragonx on January 28, 2008, 12:08:11 pm
The acting just wasn't good, the "plot" was ridiculous (and cliché with the save this girl thing) and it was just not well done.

I thought the acting was fine, like, it wasn't OMFG AWESOME ACTING THESE GUYS SHOULD GET 20000000000000 AWARDS good, but it was good enough for the kind of movie. The ""plot"" as you said it, might have been ridiculous, but I think it was well done for what the hell it was, probably only because it wasn't a traditional monster movie, like many have said.

The only thing that made me a bit annoyed was the fact that or did I miss something

Also the 9/11 stuff is bullshit imo, new york + any kind of building blowing up = 9/11 I guess. Maybe I'd have to be american to get it.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ragnar on January 28, 2008, 02:27:19 pm
Also, at the beginning, there are some words on the screen about the military having the camera in posession. That could mean that something in the movie has relevance to where the monster came from????

Yes better watch the movie 27 more times to figure out what
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 28, 2008, 04:29:21 pm
Also the 9/11 stuff is bullshit imo, new york + any kind of building blowing up = 9/11 I guess. Maybe I'd have to be american to get it.

or not retarded? just looking at wikipedia:

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Roger Ebert in the Chicago Sun-Times wrote that the film is "pretty scary at times" and cites "unmistakable evocations of 9/11". He concludes that "all in all, it is an effective film, deploying its special effects well and never breaking the illusion that it is all happening as we see it."[48]

Todd McCarthy of Variety called the film an "old-fashioned monster movie dressed up in trendy new threads", praising the special effects, "nihilistic attitude" and "post-9/11 anxiety overlay", but said, "In the end, [it's] not much different from all the marauding creature features that have come before it."[49] Scott Foundas of LA Weekly was critical of the film's allusions to the September 11, 2001 attacks and called it "cheap and opportunistic". He compared its "stealth" attempts at social commentary unfavorably to the films of Don Siegel, George A. Romero and Steven Spielberg, saying, "Where those filmmakers all had something meaningful to say about the state of the world and […] human nature, Abrams doesn't have much to say about anything."[50] Manohla Dargis in the New York Times called the allusions "tacky", saying, "[The images] may make you think of the attack, and you may curse the filmmakers for their vulgarity, insensitivity or lack of imagination", but that "the film is too dumb to offend anything except your intelligence." She concludes that the film "works as a showcase for impressively realistic-looking special effects, a realism that fails to extend to the scurrying humans whose fates are meant to invoke pity and fear but instead inspire yawns and contempt."[20] Stephanie Zacharek of Salon.com calls the film "badly constructed, humorless and emotionally sadistic", and sums up by saying that the film "takes the trauma of 9/11 and turns it into just another random spectacle at which to point and shoot."[51] Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune warned that the viewer may feel "queasy" at the references to September 11, but that "other sequences […] carry a real jolt" and that such tactics were "crude, but undeniably gripping". He called the film "dumb", but "quick and dirty and effectively brusque", concluding that despite it being "a harsher, more demographically calculating brand of fun", he enjoyed the film.[52]

LOOK AT ALL THESE NOOBS WHO COULDN'T FIGURE SHIT OUT...

edit: man I love this Salon.com review.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: dragonx on January 28, 2008, 05:01:52 pm
they are all american?!?!

I don't see how reviewers for American magazines wouldn't have the same bias any other american would about 9/11?

I am Canadian, and I don't see any kind of 9/11 crap in that movie, its just shit blowing up, woo hoo.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on January 28, 2008, 05:26:19 pm
they are all american?!?!

I don't see how reviewers for American magazines wouldn't have the same bias any other american would about 9/11?

I am Canadian, and I don't see any kind of 9/11 crap in that movie, its just shit blowing up, woo hoo.

it was also an american made movie so maybe the movie makers have that same bias???
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: dragonx on January 28, 2008, 05:51:44 pm
it was also an american made movie so maybe the movie makers have that same bias???

well yeah but what if they werent aiming for 9/11???? did he say it was that?!?!


im jus sayin, everyone explodes about exploding new york
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Fire Mage on January 28, 2008, 06:18:33 pm
or not retarded? just looking at wikipedia:

LOOK AT ALL THESE NOOBS WHO COULDN'T FIGURE SHIT OUT...

edit: man I love this Salon.com review.
also yeah me and another one of my friends (out of the 4 that went) thought of 9/11.

hell, that scene at the beginning with buildings crashing and they had the giant smoke/debris storm sweeping down the street as people dived into the stores....that was EXACTLY what people did in 9/11. i'm pretty sure there was like a video of something during 9/11 of people doing that, though not too sure.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: HL on January 28, 2008, 06:27:48 pm
also yeah me and another one of my friends (out of the 4 that went) thought of 9/11.

hell, that scene at the beginning with buildings crashing and they had the giant smoke/debris storm sweeping down the street as people dived into the stores....that was EXACTLY what people did in 9/11. i'm pretty sure there was like a video of something during 9/11 of people doing that, though not too sure.

wow omg, people diving into stores to save their lives which is probably the only OBVIOUS solution when there is GIANT SMOKE AND DEBRIS GOING EVERYWHERE well shit man, it must be about 9/11 i mean its not like this is what you would do with debris going everywhere.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 28, 2008, 06:41:06 pm
jesus christ how did you people not see the clear 9/11 shit everywhere.

look when a movie has no point to the disaster other than SHOW...THE HUMAN CONDITION... and you set it in New York, and said disaster involves a lot of shit blowing up and rubble flying, and it's all filmed via shaky cam, and everyone is acting confused and running around, do you really think the director didn't think he was appealing to people's memories of 9/11?

did you see the POSITIVE reviews that mentioned the 9/11 thing?

christ it's not a 9/11 movie because shit fell apart, it's because apart from the fact it's a monster, it's exactly like footage of 9/11 over and over and over and over. whether you think the creator used the sense of 9/11 tragedy well or not is different, but if you can't at least acknowledge the point of view that it exists, then you're a damn fool.

I wish I could think of another movie that just kind of coopted the country's prevailing feeling on a certain disaster/type of event but I can't. it's just pretty clear to me he is deliberately appealing to the 9/11 tragedy (and the many many reviews that mention this (the fact that you apparently have no sense of context does not excuse the fact that the context still exists; I may not know about Afghanistan but I can still watch the Kite Runner and understand the cultural difference and appeal) elaborate on this) and I don't see how you don't get it.

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Is "Cloverfield" trying to be a "fun" monster movie, or is it trying to say something about the way, post-9/11, we experience horrific events? I simply have no idea. There are many people who walk around thinking, "9/11 is the most dramatic, most significant event in our lives," just as there are others who think, "Big deal. It was only a matter of time until we were attacked on our own soil." If 1950s horror films were really about the communist threat, as we're constantly and needlessly reminded by film scholars, then why can't modern horror films mirror our own fears about real-life terrorism? There's no reason that they can't. But there's also no reason we have to accept the cheapening of real-life tragedy as a means of entertainment. "Cloverfield" harnesses the horror of 9/11 -- specifically as it was felt in New York -- and repackages it as an amusement-park ride. We see familiar buildings exploding and crumpling before our eyes, and plumes of smoke rolling up the narrow corridors formed by lower-Manhattan streets, images that were once the province of news footage and have now been reduced to special effects. Kewl!

I'm not saying those images should never be used dramatically in any way. But like all potent images, they deserve some care and respect, and some discretion. Why use them just for kicks, as a means to get a rise out of the audience as it recognizes something familiar and terrifying? "Cloverfield" takes the trauma of 9/11 and turns it into just another random spectacle at which to point and shoot. The picture's overconfident sense of immediacy is precisely what makes it so remote. Maybe we now live in a world where we record the moment first and feel it later. If that's the case, "Cloverfield" leaves us waiting to feel.

ps if you did think OH ITS NOT TRYING TO TELL US ANYTHING IT'S JUST A FUN MONSTER MOVIE christ you have low fucking standards for fun.

it's an okay movie but to plug your ears and say "whoa it never tried to say ANYTHING its great because it does nothing for anyone......" is kind of dumb and no one cares about what you have to say.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: dragonx on January 28, 2008, 06:46:35 pm
I'm not saying I don't understand how people can see it is 9/11, but I don't look at it that way.

It's not the only way to look at it is what I was trying to say, I just saw it as another disaster movie that shows people helping each other etc, until I read the reviews.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Ryan on January 28, 2008, 06:53:26 pm
i never really saw the 9/11 connection. i guess because it's in new york and buildings get destroyed it must be referencing 9/11??

(you know there's been like 3,000 monster-attacks-nyc movies before i don't see how this is evoking 9/11)
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: HL on January 28, 2008, 07:34:52 pm
jesus christ how did you people not see the clear 9/11 shit everywhere.

look when a movie has no point to the disaster other than SHOW...THE HUMAN CONDITION... and you set it in New York, and said disaster involves a lot of shit blowing up and rubble flying, and it's all filmed via shaky cam, and everyone is acting confused and running around, do you really think the director didn't think he was appealing to people's memories of 9/11?

I guess shaky cam must make all the difference here because I am pretty sure everything else you said has been done to death in hundreds of other monster movies in new york.

When you have a monster, shit is going to get blown up, rubble is going to be flying, and amazingly enough if a 500 foot GREEN DINOSAUR-LIKE THING was attacking my town I'd probably be confused and running around and I am sure so would a lot of other people.

BUT MAYBE YOU'RE TOO BALLSY AND ARENT SCARED OF SUCH THINGS AND YOUR BUILDINGS CAN RESIST MONSTERS WHAT DO I KNOW???
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: CorporateGreed on January 28, 2008, 08:06:45 pm
I've seen the movie and absolutely loved it. It was exactly what I expected.

I must say I'm having a laugh over the nonsense about 9/11 this movie is generating.
This movie was Godzilla from the perspective of the victims.

Godzilla was made before 9/11, which means that movie didn't rip off the disaster either.
New York is just a popular place to set disasters free on, and it always has been. And for
future reference, it always will be. It's not 9/11. 9/11 was just a disaster, and could just
as easily have been used for a movie.

Just like the little beastie. It's just that 9/11 really happend.

Bring in teh flamezorz.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on January 28, 2008, 08:13:00 pm
i don't get why everybody so vehemently denies the idea that this movie could possibly be referencing 9/11.  a lot of people seem to get very offended by that notion!  like it was pretty obvious to me but everybody thinks that people are attacking the movie by saying it references 9/11 which they aren't necessarily doing.

edit: by the way although i don't want to sound high and mighty or elitist or some shit but if you guys refuse to believe that MAYBE (MAYBE???) the movie is referencing 9/11 then you probably read movies too literally and you probably don't really understand them! 

edit edit: you are probably the type of people who watch eraserhead and hate it because babies don't look like that.

edit:::::: from now on every time i see a topic about a bad movie i'm just going to talk about david lynch instead
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: HL on January 28, 2008, 08:21:10 pm
i don't get why everybody so vehemently denies the idea that this movie could possibly be referencing 9/11.  a lot of people seem to get very offended by that notion!  like it was pretty obvious to me but everybody thinks that people are attacking the movie by saying it references 9/11 which they aren't necessarily doing.

I'm not denying the possibility that the movie could possibility be referencing 9/11, but then again I'm not denying the possibility that I'll marry Leah Dizon.


It's really far fetched imo, and its annoying that everyone now and days has to point out every single fucking thing as a 9/11 reference even if its just as CLOSE as OMG STUFF GETS BLOWN UP AND PEOPLE RUN AROUND SCARED (uh...don't people do that when y'know, stuff gets blown up and OMG MONSTER?) & OH YEAH ITS NEW YORK BY CHANCE.

So what, it doesn't even matter.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 28, 2008, 08:22:54 pm
so you're telling me he shot an entire movie with handheld cameras about a disaster in New York from a civilian's perspective and not once thought about 9/11 or how much like 9/11 this would look.

ps what other things are pointed out as 9/11 references?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: HL on January 28, 2008, 08:27:58 pm
so you're telling me he shot an entire movie with handheld cameras about a disaster in New York from a civilian's perspective and not once thought about 9/11 or how much like 9/11 this would look.

i am sure he thought about 9/11 because it is hard not to think about such a terrible thing every day

but it is completely ridiculous to go "oh my god...its just like 9/11?!?!?!?" to it. Just because its New York, its a disaster, and people are freaking out doesn't mean he was going "heh...heh....this will be symbolic of the terrorists crashing the plane into the important buildings heh..."
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on January 28, 2008, 08:43:31 pm
it's not very far-fetched at all and i don't see why you people think that!  yeah no shit people are going to run when shit blows up but that's not the argument here hurrr!  jesus it's a movie shot entirely on a HANDHELD CAMERA about NEW YORK UNDER ATTACK.  hint: maybe shooting the entire movie on a handheld camera was more than just a gimmick???  did you consider that maybe... maybe J.J. Abrams was influenced by the real life events of 9/11 (fun fact: every artist ever takes inspiration from real life) and wanted to recreate the fear that came with the attacks by making a monster movie?? and maybe he recreated those images by shooting the movie on a handheld camera and having a shot of people running from the smoke and hiding in stores that looks a lot like this one video of people running away from the smoke during 9/11? 
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on January 28, 2008, 08:46:41 pm
I would also like to point out the number of positive reviews that pointed to exactly what Roman just said, which I quoted.

it's not a stretch at all!!!
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Roman on January 28, 2008, 08:51:22 pm
guys vertigo is about alfred hitchcock's misogynistic tendencies.

NO IT'S NOT ROMAN SHUT UP NO IT'S NOT

vertigo is about a guy who forces some girl to look exactly like this other girl he was once in love with THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO IT. 
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Fire Mage on January 28, 2008, 09:02:31 pm
wow omg, people diving into stores to save their lives which is probably the only OBVIOUS solution when there is GIANT SMOKE AND DEBRIS GOING EVERYWHERE well shit man, it must be about 9/11 i mean its not like this is what you would do with debris going everywhere.
you totally missed my point and looked at the wrong statement

jesus i wish i could find that video of people doing that in 9/11 (not to be a dick but jesus fucking christ)

i'm saying the whole scene itself. jj abrams decided to have people stand in the street looking scared, then they look the other way and a big tower/building starts to fall and then the giant rush of gray debris cloud and people start diving into stores.

i swear it is EXACTLY a recreation of some camcorder vid of 9/11.

and i really don't see why people are getting offended.

:edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2d1kLnSi6E&feature=related

not too good of example but it's the same idea (don't take this as the exact same thing as cloverfield it is not)
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Post by: Ryan on January 28, 2008, 11:03:23 pm
i'm not refusing to believe it's about 9/11 or whatever i just said i didn't think of it while i was watching the movie.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Impeal on January 28, 2008, 11:12:50 pm
Yeah, I didn't think of 9/11 when I saw it, but after reading so many reviews that compared it to 9/11, I don't think it's weird or far fetched that people did. Like Fire Mage has been saying, I can think of a few 9/11 videos that look very similar to some scenes in Cloverfield.

And Steel is making a good point when he says that saying it referenced 9/11 is not necessarily an attack on the film.

But anyway, you guys are getting a little hostile so maybe we should just drop it before the discussion turns angry.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: The Magi on January 29, 2008, 01:07:55 am
I wasn't offended the least bit by the notions of this film referncing 9/11 multiple times. Like most people said, the most obvious reference was the collapsing tower in the first half of the film. I saw the dust cloud and people running into the stores and immediately made the connection, I don't see how others could have missed it there. It's not a perfect film, but I enjoyed it. The fact that it relied on evoking emotions of 9/11 didn't bother nor offend me, so maybe I'm just dead inside as I expect. I don't think I could have watched this movie if it were very long though, and if anything the execution of the sequence of events was probably one of the stronger points. It began and ended in a timely fashion and there wasn't much confusion with what the characters in focus were trying to achieve. I was able to suspend my disbelief for the majority of the film because the simplistic plot made it easier to connect myself to the experience. This isn't a movie that I would see more than once, but regardless I'm not overly disappointed.

The one qualm I had with the whole camcorder perspective was the rapid movement of the camera and succession of multiple angles. It's part of the experience you can argue, but surely there could have been some way to film the movie without so many rapid changes in camera angles. Even sitting in the very back row there were several sequences that made me dizzy.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Lyndon on February 02, 2008, 01:10:57 am
I just watched this movie tonight. It opened tonight in the UK.

It was truely THE best movie experience I have ever had and I am a massive film fan.

Never have I watched a film, which places you in a moment so convincingly that you imagine that the reactions the actors portray would be simular to your own in that situation.

It especially shows how fragile human life really is. One moment they are all happy and the next they're lives are taken away from them. This is common in many films, but Cloverfield some how brought the gritty reality to it.

I guess you could relate this film to the experiences certain people have on 9/11. The fear and cluelessness about what was going on is sort of comparitable, but I think it's mainly the reality of something extreme and immediate happening in your home city, which links the two events. New York is not normally a war zone, but suddenly it is completely destroyed with your friends and family killed infront of you in an instance. This shit actually happened on 9/11 to some people. It's actually really upsetting to think about.

I've heard some people complain about the romantic side of it. Most people I know have an issue with a girl. A lot of people I know are in love or love somebody. It's actually a big reality of life and so I didn't think it was too theatrical to put this plot in there.

The film is less about the monster, but more about small group of people you follow who experience the events. For me, it was a really emotive and shocking film, which showed a group of young individuals lives be taken away from them in a very unglorified and blasay fashion.

For what this film is all about, it is pretty much perfect in my eyes. Although, the film won't be half as shocking on a second watch. I'm glad I waited to go to the cinema to watch this, rather than online or some bull.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: PTizzle on February 11, 2008, 08:02:26 pm
I don't think its a positive, but I think they developed it the most they could of through the format the film utilizes.

I'm not trying to say its one of the most emotional and romantic love story ever in film, I just think it was satisfying enough to justify where the plot goes.


I think this is a good way to put the love plot in the film into words. It wasn't incredible, but it did add some direction and they did a pretty good job building some sort of character connection while a gigantic fucking thing was smashing buildings left and right.

But yeah, Lyndon is right. You gotta see this at the movies or it's not worth it. I feel much the same about it as I did with WotW (except without the anger at the butchering of my favourite book waah) - awesome at the cinemas, probably not so much on a rewatch. But I was impressed, and it'd be one of the most intense movie experiences I've had in a long time.

Most of the complaints I've heard from people were "I got sick" or "love story lame" so I'm guessing that means they at least nailed the monster part.

If you feel sick also move back from the screen if at all possible.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Fire Mage on February 12, 2008, 03:38:59 am

I think this is a good way to put the love plot in the film into words. It wasn't incredible, but it did add some direction and they did a pretty good job building some sort of character connection while a gigantic fucking thing was smashing buildings left and right.

But yeah, Lyndon is right. You gotta see this at the movies or it's not worth it. I feel much the same about it as I did with WotW (except without the anger at the butchering of my favourite book waah) - awesome at the cinemas, probably not so much on a rewatch. But I was impressed, and it'd be one of the most intense movie experiences I've had in a long time.

Most of the complaints I've heard from people were "I got sick" or "love story lame" so I'm guessing that means they at least nailed the monster part.

If you feel sick also move back from the screen if at all possible.
Actually they did horrible on the monster...it made no sense at all.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: CorporateGreed on February 14, 2008, 09:29:55 am
Actually they did horrible on the monster...it made no sense at all.

Not really. In contrary, this monster actually was a monster. This beastie would own godzilla
anyday.

Probably because godzilla rather eats fish and this thing eats people though.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Killface on February 14, 2008, 09:59:39 am
I've heard talk of a 2nd one planned. Is there any truth to this, or is it just bull crap?
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: CorporateGreed on February 14, 2008, 12:48:58 pm
I've heard talk of a 2nd one planned. Is there any truth to this, or is it just bull crap?

I know there's some comic coming out, but I seriously hope they don't make a
sequel to this movie. It wouldn't make sense, seen how the movie is build up.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Christophomicus on February 14, 2008, 01:07:56 pm
I heard work on the sequel starts next week or something, actually. I'm not entirely sure where I heard it; could be bullshit (probably is bullshit), but I'm just tossing that out there.
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Lyndon on February 14, 2008, 05:36:03 pm
There's part in the movie where HUD notices another guy filming on the bridge.  Apparently the second movie will follow his story. I am going to assume to make it worth while that they have a very different experience compared to Rob and HUD etc. Hopefully they escape or something and you learn more about the monster and where it came from. It'll be in the same POV style, which is cool
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Mongoloid on February 16, 2008, 05:51:15 am
I can see a whole catalog of cloverfield movies being made from the viewpoints of like 8 camcorders.
I'd pay to see every one of them.


ps. it's not about 9/11 dumases 9/11 had terorists this is about a montser
Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: Killface on February 16, 2008, 10:21:30 am
Sequel? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield#Sequel)

Wikipedia isn't exactly the most 'reliable' source, but it his citations :fogetscience:
So a sequel is planned. No one knows when, though.
A better perspective would be the monster's own. But it won't happen. How sad.

Maybe the sequel will have a back story! I still blame Japan for that thing.


Title: Project Cloverfield
Post by: local_dunce on February 21, 2008, 12:52:45 pm
bupm. Just watched the film and I thought it was pretty entertaining. I mean parts of it gave me a headache but I really did feel a bit frightened for these people who you were following throughout the entire ordeal. I think it was pretty clever how the director gave you the eyes and said YOU ARE HERE WITH THESE PEOPLE rather than how a lot of movies say "Here are some events going on, you are watching through a window." Don't get me wrong however I'm not saying all films should be filmed in shakeycam from now on.