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Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Dark Angel on October 19, 2007, 10:25:19 pm

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071019/D8SCIF480.html

Jesus Christ, this is something that might happen on 24 and Jack Bauer has to stop the bad guys from taking advantage of it. The last paragraph has me wondering if it wasn't a mistake, but they were being secretly moved so they could just SAY they had been decommisioned, but someone leaked th esecret, so now they are saying it was all a gross mistake.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on October 19, 2007, 10:31:02 pm
This is why nuclear disarmament is a probably a good idea.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Doktormartini on October 19, 2007, 10:38:16 pm
This is why nuclear disarmament is a probably a good idea.
Remember though, the US and Israel are allowed nukes but no one else can =o)
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Clucky on October 19, 2007, 10:47:36 pm
Remember though, the US and Israel are allowed nukes but no one else can =o)
That's correct, Doktormartini. Very good.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Vellfire on October 19, 2007, 10:50:16 pm
That's cute Doktormartini, thanks for sharing.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Lord Kamina on October 19, 2007, 11:10:17 pm
That's cute Doktormartini, thanks for sharing.

Ah, this brings me back some.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Mince Wobley on October 19, 2007, 11:40:43 pm
Remember though, the US and Israel are allowed nukes but no one else can =o)

If the greatest countries that have the most freedom and democracy doesn't have them then the terrorists who have them (france, russia, china, india) will be able to do whathever they want. And I don't want the world to become communist or hindu.

--

By the way this scared me a little, I thought they had launched those weapons of mass destruction
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on October 19, 2007, 11:50:22 pm
The procedures were set and it's no one's fault other than the incompetent airmen and their direct superiors. How fucking stupid, though.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Dark Angel on October 20, 2007, 12:47:24 am

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20071019/D8SCKA7O0.html

Wow. Handling nukes should really fall under the common sense catergory of "do not skip security measure to speed up process." I can't believe anyone handling such a devastating weapon would even think for a second that that would be ok.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 20, 2007, 02:49:08 am
Nukes are neat, I like nukes, but IMHO I believe the fact that more level 4 biological weapons facilities are being opened is more of a danger to all life on the planet than a couple of nukes. Oh, and the genetically modified foods and cross-species chimeras which have been created, and the revived 1918 Spanish influenza and all kinds of neat stuff getting misplaced. Also, depleted uranium deforming Iraqi babies and giving people all over the world cancer. Nukes are neat, but you need like... I dunno a friggin' B-52 to move them and an entire army to service them. Nukes are fun but there is scarier shit out there right now.

This has been a KK4 public service announcement.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: kermit the toad on October 20, 2007, 04:41:18 am
I read about this last weekend. It's kind of scary. Actually, it's really scary. At least everything worked out "OK" in the end.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 20, 2007, 07:02:07 am
Nukes are neat, I like nukes, but IMHO I believe the fact that more level 4 biological weapons facilities are being opened is more of a danger to all life on the planet than a couple of nukes. Oh, and the genetically modified foods and cross-species chimeras which have been created, and the revived 1918 Spanish influenza and all kinds of neat stuff getting misplaced. Also, depleted uranium deforming Iraqi babies and giving people all over the world cancer. Nukes are neat, but you need like... I dunno a friggin' B-52 to move them and an entire army to service them. Nukes are fun but there is scarier shit out there right now.

This has been a KK4 public service announcement.

Right. Nukes are powerful and terrifying weapons, however they are predictable. Biological weapons on the other hand, once released, can become extremely unpredictable--with a potential of us not being able to stop it within a reasonable time frame.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: The Truth on October 20, 2007, 07:09:04 am
chimaeras kk4 really?

i mean come on
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 20, 2007, 08:03:43 pm
Yes, really. Animals with DNA from other animals injected into their genetic code.They're called transgenic animals. The year is 2007 and we can do some amazing things. Perhaps you should read the news every once in a while, you may find something interesting.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on October 20, 2007, 08:09:08 pm
snails with giant poison fangs, people

will someone think of the children???
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Safari on October 20, 2007, 08:31:04 pm
Yes, really. Animals with DNA from other animals injected into their genetic code.They're called transgenic animals. The year is 2007 and we can do some amazing things. Perhaps you should read the news every once in a while, you may find something interesting.

While testing of super-viruses and biological weapons are extremely dangerous, I don't think that glow-in-the-dark aquarium fish, meat producing trees, and goats with spider's silk in their utters quite fall under the "OH SHIT" catagory that nuclear weapons do. Nukes are never "neat" and anything that is capable of destroying that much like can never be "fun." I'm sorry, but those kinds of comments are completely ridiculous.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Mince Wobley on October 20, 2007, 08:57:21 pm
Yes, really. Animals with DNA from other animals injected into their genetic code.They're called transgenic animals. The year is 2007 and we can do some amazing things. Perhaps you should read the news every once in a while, you may find something interesting.


I hate when people say that "Now That We Can Do X" when only some scientists actually did "X". It's not like everyone can do it and post a video on youtube so you too can do it. If I were a scientist I'd insert orange DNA insert a coco tree so that instead of coconut-water the coconuts contain orange juice. I'll win a nobel prize when I do that.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 20, 2007, 10:14:59 pm

I hate when people say that "Now That We Can Do X" when only some scientists actually did "X". It's not like everyone can do it and post a video on youtube so you too can do it. If I were a scientist I'd insert orange DNA insert a coco tree so that instead of coconut-water the coconuts contain orange juice. I'll win a nobel prize when I do that.

I mean "we" as in the human species as a whole, not "we" as in each individual. I just have to make the point that we are living in a time a incredible scientific discovery even if not everyone is aware of these advances.

While testing of super-viruses and biological weapons are extremely dangerous, I don't think that glow-in-the-dark aquarium fish, meat producing trees, and goats with spider's silk in their utters quite fall under the "OH SHIT" catagory that nuclear weapons do. Nukes are never "neat" and anything that is capable of destroying that much like can never be "fun." I'm sorry, but those kinds of comments are completely ridiculous.

Nukes are fucking neat as hell and you know it. The awesome destructive power which is contained in a single atom which can wipe entire cities off of the map in a fraction of a split second is the neatest thing that I have ever heard of.

Quote from:  dictionary.com
neat 1
–adjective
4.   cleverly effective in character or execution: a neat scheme; a neat solution.

One warhead annihilating millions of enemies, billions of dollars industry and infrastructure, and tons of arms and armaments in a single instant is motherfucking NEAT!

However, you happen to need a nation-state with advanced technology and billions of dollars for a nuclear program (unless you're given nukes by the US or Russia) and only the superpowers and their client states have that capability. A biological weapon is far more "OH SHIT" than a nuke because it is easy to make (in relation to nukes or other armaments) easily deployed and the effects are terrible. Also, crossing DNA between species is dangerous as it can give rise to super viruses that can cross the species barrier. Hell bird flu (H5N1 iirc) could cross the species barrier and OMG KILL US ALL, and I don't want to make that jump easier by making a flock of genetically engineered geese with human DNA. Also, crossing species DNA makes totally new proteins and amino-acids, and different compounds which have never existed in the entire evolutionary history of earth which could cause massive problems if they managed to infect the global genepool. It's just not a smart idea at all.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Mince Wobley on October 20, 2007, 10:21:27 pm
Sure KK4, killing a lot of people and poisoning the environment forever is a very cool thing!
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on October 20, 2007, 10:29:01 pm
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/pegasus.phys.saga-u.ac.jp/imagesMac-PC/ForPEACE/HiroshimaHosp.jpeg)
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/students.umf.maine.edu/~donoghtp/hiroshima2.gif)
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/web.library.emory.edu/libraries/schatten/previous/hiroshima/images/Hiroshima.jpeg)

NEAT!
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on October 20, 2007, 10:36:00 pm
Sure KK4, killing a lot of people and poisoning the environment forever is a very cool thing!

Man, that isn't what he is saying at all.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Grogrog on October 20, 2007, 10:41:06 pm
Sure KK4, killing a lot of people and poisoning the environment forever is a very cool thing!

You guys are fucking stupid. If you actually read what he said you would notice that he did not once say cool. In fact, he even gave a dictionary definition of the word neat. And he's fucking right, it's neat.

Man am I even allowed to say people are fucking stupid? Even when it's so god damn true?  :tsk:
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on October 20, 2007, 10:54:34 pm
Quote from: KK4
Nukes are neat, I like nukes
Quote from: KK4
Nukes are fun

If you'd read his posts, you'd probably realize that he's not the sharpest tool in the barn and rationalizing his arguments well after he's come out with weird, half-formed opinions. And despite his quoting of the definition of the word 'neat', his other posts have used it in an entirely different context.

Nuclear weapons are absolutely awful on every level and it's horrible that they were ever made. While you can argue the strategic value of wiping out the opposition rather than engaging them in an organized battle, it also leads to Mutually Assured Destruction and the constant thread of things like nuclear terrorism and dirty bombs, not to mention the horrible radioactivity and cancer rates associated with disasters like the Russian nuclear spills (no I'm not talking about Chernobyl, I am a big proponent of nuclear energy) and lingering disease/deformations in the populations of areas afflicted by nuclear testing or in the case of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, bombardment.

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The overall age-adjusted (World Population Standard) cancer incidence has increased from 217 to 301 per 100,000 among males, and from 176 to 197 per 100,000 among females during the first 30 years of cancer registration.

That's not to mention that the overall effects of the bomb ended up killing primarily civilians.

Situations like these are fucking scary as hell - I don't care why, the fact that we had no idea where our nukes were for even slightly over a day is frightening.

 It's a testament to the degree to which we've opened Pandora's Box with shit like this. Just because we survived the Cold War doesn't mean that the computer simulations which predicted an 85% chance of the launch of nuclear weapons weren't true. And losing track of these things is probably one of the stupidest mistakes it's possible to make.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 20, 2007, 11:17:37 pm
Here is a nice little bit of information, we have used over 500 tonnes of radioactive nuclear material in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Serbia. No, we didn't use nuclear bombs, but we used Depleted uranium ammunition which is a hell of a lot scarier than a nuclear weapon. We use DU in the A-10, for precision guided bunker buster bombs, in sabot rounds for the Abrams tanks, in .50 caliber anti-material rifles, and in .50 caliber machine guns. However, unless you came back from Iraq and an ultra-aggressive cancer has eaten the majority of your face, or the Iraqi parent of a horribly deformed child then most people don't know about the dangers of DU nor do they care. What's extremely awesome is that DU when it hits it's target turns into a very fine vapor that can get kicked up in the wind and carried off to anywhere the prevailing wind blows. and personally I think a cloud of radioactive dust from 500 tonnes of DU used all over the fucking world is a hell of a lot bigger problem than 6 warheads being misplaced by some idiots in the air force.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 21, 2007, 12:00:53 am
here's a nice little bit of information: KK4 was a nazi less than five years ago to the extent that he purchased nazi memorabilia, believes that guns are tools of liberty and taking a gun away from anyone subtracts FREEEEEDOM from them, believes men in black hoods are coming to slit his throat if he doesn't shoot them first, stopped being a Nazi because "Hitler and the 3rd Reich was funded by the US establishment. I had originally been of the belief that Hitler was an individual who rose to power by force of will alone and rebuilt a shattered empire into a vast army it took the entire world to defeat" (instead of, you know, Hitler being despicable in all ways) and in a PM he sent to me, said he was "concerned for the well being of my race", being white. he also believes in a "globalist crime syndicate" run by jews looking to create enemies, and is notorious for having garbage opinions on everything, as documented here (http://wiki.fortsigma.net/index.php?title=KK4).

despite the fact that his every non-white noise reply is borderline racist, fascist, or just plain malicious, he will never be banned, but he's free to wander into legitimate topics and get them locked because apparently we can warn someone for posting twice in a row but allow people who espouse nuclear weapons as neat and fun to post freely!
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 21, 2007, 12:17:09 am
Flame more plz, it's really entertaining
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 21, 2007, 12:25:42 am
no dude, you're a fucking dick for rolling another topic into the ground with your massive libertarian SLIT YOUR THROAT girth and you stopped being entertaining after the politics thread got locked because now all you do is go into legitimate threads (and it's not like I adore this thread or anything, so that should indicate how despicable you are) and post something so goddam batshit that people have to comment.

you're the right wing version of Doktormartini which makes you 100 times worse because at least Martini acts out of some misguided love where as you just love misguiding, saying shit like how mass murder is fake when it's the murder of a minority (HOLOCAUST WAS A LIE DARFUR SHOULD BE STATES RIGHTS) or how awesome it is when it's a big fucking gun.

also I would like to point out he never said I lied because I wasn't lying and you can verify it yourself if you want.

I'm not done with you because honestly I don't think anyone can be done with you until you hang yourself from a girder, but I don't think most ropes would hold your girth and your ego together.
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Post by: Marcus on October 21, 2007, 12:52:35 am
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Also, depleted uranium deforming Iraqi babies and giving people all over the world cancer.
Uranium-238 is only poisonous if ingested directly and it's isotopes only spread a few centimeters on impact and can be absorbed by something as small as a piece of paper.  The isotopes are also nearly similar to that of natural uranium found in our bones.  If anyone gets cancer from DU, they would need to be hit by several rounds and survive... which is fucking unlikely. 

Any and all cases that link cancer or health incidents to DU are completely unproven or based on one sided tests and observations.

As far as this news goes, I think it's retarded they're blaming LOL AIRMEN.  I'm sure most of you guys don't understand my hatred because you're not in the military (where the fuck is Belross... OH GOD WHAT IF HE'S INVOLVED!!) but the blame should completely fall on the superiors or whoever planned this.  I'm glad to see some officers got fired, but to blame the common workers for FOLLOWING PROTOCOL regardless of what that protocol is is completely retarded and it's only used to satiate the hungry civilian who wants some sense of LULZ JUSTICE because they don't understand the situation.

Fuck military politics.  I can't wait until my enlistment is over.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Dark Angel on October 21, 2007, 01:37:08 am
Wouldn't the airmen be just as reposnsible for not following the proper procedure though? Or at least reporting their senior officer for ordering them to do otherwise?
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Mince Wobley on October 21, 2007, 01:45:10 am
Uranium-238 is only poisonous if ingested directly and it's isotopes only spread a few centimeters on impact and can be absorbed by something as small as a piece of paper.  The isotopes are also nearly similar to that of natural uranium found in our bones.  If anyone gets cancer from DU, they would need to be hit by several rounds and survive... which is fucking unlikely. 

Any and all cases that link cancer or health incidents to DU are completely unproven or based on one sided tests and observations.

So you're saying that gulf war syndrome does not exist?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Phanixis on October 21, 2007, 01:57:02 am
The thing is, how have they ascertain that the deformities listed in the link you provided were the result of depleted uranium shells.  Especially because during the Gulf War, whole fields of oil wells were set on fire which temporarily blackened out the sky in the surrouding region.  Not to mention that during war many people are faced with starvation, lack of nutrition, poor sanitation conditions, lack of health care, and lack of access to clean water, all which could also result in such deformities.  So saying that the birth deformities exist hardly proves that that is was caused by depleteted uranium shells.

And as angry black guy has pointed out, uranium-238 is naturally occuring and only harardous upon ingestion.  And given the mass of uranium-238, it is unlikely to remain airborne as a particulate for extended periods of time.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Lars on October 21, 2007, 01:59:47 am
Nukes are fucking neat as hell and you know it. The awesome destructive power which is contained in a single atom which can wipe entire cities off of the map in a fraction of a split second is the neatest thing that I have ever heard of.
A single atom?
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Pasty on October 21, 2007, 02:03:13 am
but the blame should completely fall on the superiors or whoever planned this.  I'm glad to see some officers got fired, but to blame the common workers for FOLLOWING PROTOCOL regardless of what that protocol is is completely retarded and it's only used to satiate the hungry civilian who wants some sense of LULZ JUSTICE because they don't understand the situation.

Fuck military politics.  I can't wait until my enlistment is over.

QFT.  Jesus Fuck Christ is this accurate.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Marcus on October 21, 2007, 02:05:54 am
Wouldn't the airmen be just as reposnsible for not following the proper procedure though? Or at least reporting their senior officer for ordering them to do otherwise?
No because they're given the orders in the first place and would be punished for disobeying them.  You can bring up grievance reports, but you cannot just outright REFUSE an order.  The military doesn't work like that.  You're given an order and you're trained to believe that it comes with sound reasoning.  Unless these airmen willfully disobeyed direct orders by taking shortcuts, they shouldn't be punished for following what they're told.

But the media is vicious and the American public is retarded when it comes to military protocol because, naturally, only people in the military or with military families know what really goes on.  Just look at Vietnam; most of the public viciously spat on the injured soldiers who returned to the soil because they were committing an "injustice" but it all came from someone higher than them.  Don't blame the soldiers, blame the guys who give them orders.  They relieved some officers of duty, but in military terms that means "retired with slightly lower than average pension."  These airmen will most likely get a court martial and thrown in Levinworth for years... and let me tell you folks, Levinworth is a different kind of prison.  Think Oz but 20x worse.  The inmates are all trained soldiers, sailors, and marines; one false move and your ass is grass.

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So you're saying that gulf war syndrome does not exist?
No, I'm saying that the independent research of a group of "experts" followed by a handful of pictures doesn't prove without a reasonable doubt that DU is MASSIVELY TOXIC.  It is a toxic metal, there's no denying that, but there are hundreds of various factors that can cause birth defects and cancer among Americans and Iraqi people including parasites, an early anthrax vaccine, chemical weapons such as mustard and nerve gas, pesticides, smoke, and various other untested vaccinations and chemicals used by both Americans and the enemy.

Pretty much everything causes cancer.  You can't just narrow it down to one thing and say it's true because some doctor tested a handful of soldier's urine and connected the chemical to DU and DU only
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Dark Angel on October 21, 2007, 02:26:48 am
Well I don't understand. Wouldn't the airmen already know the proper procedure? Or would direct orders override that? You make it sound like you can NEVER refuse an order, but what about orders that are crystally clear wrong? I.E. Go stomp that babies head in over there. And if you ARE drilled to NEVER refuse an order, then I totally agree, why the hell would you punish the people taking orders?
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Marcus on October 21, 2007, 02:46:44 am
Well I don't understand. Wouldn't the airmen already know the proper procedure? Or would direct orders override that? You make it sound like you can NEVER refuse an order, but what about orders that are crystally clear wrong? I.E. Go stomp that babies head in over there. And if you ARE drilled to NEVER refuse an order, then I totally agree, why the hell would you punish the people taking orders?

Because policies aren't created by enlisted personell.  They may have been trained in handling the nuclear arms, but the protocol for delivering them was completely out of their hands.  Doing routine maintenance on a warhead it completely different from smashing babies.  There's no moral objections to checking in a nuclear warhead when it's something you're trained in doing, but discovering that you've been doing the wrong thing because you were TRAINED to do it and then getting punished for it?  That's a completely different story.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 21, 2007, 02:56:28 am
People will want their scape goat though and the scape goat is never a career officer, it's always some lowly peon that was just doing his job as he was told to do it that gets the blame and takes the shaft for all the higher ups. It's pretty much the same everywhere.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Dark Angel on October 21, 2007, 03:31:06 am
Doing routine maintenance on a warhead it completely different from smashing babies. 

Well I wasn't saying there wasn't a difference, just asking whereabouts the line gets drawn. I understand and agree with you're point that if that's the way they were trained and taught to do it, then it isn't their fault, but the article sounded to me like they were purposefully skirting what they knew to be the correct procedures.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: XaviarCraig on October 21, 2007, 03:31:14 am
Almost feel as though this quote is coming true;

"The day had finally come. Plutonious has finally wreaked havoc upon the earth, leaving the world in vast wastelands. The ghouls are strong and true, and they are the new race now, the smoothskins will be erased from history"

Kudos to the first to name the source!
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Marcus on October 21, 2007, 03:54:35 am
Almost feel as though this quote is coming true;

"The day had finally come. Plutonious has finally wreaked havoc upon the earth, leaving the world in vast wastelands. The ghouls are strong and true, and they are the new race now, the smoothskins will be erased from history"

Kudos to the first to name the source!

war.

war never changes.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: XaviarCraig on October 21, 2007, 04:01:49 am
Okey-dokey. One moment, the chip is initializing. Here - here - here - There it goes . . . Self-test is green . . . re-boot is good...  Hah! It's working! And it looks like we have a winner! Haha!
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: The Truth on October 23, 2007, 08:23:53 am
kk4 do you believe everything you read??

...ii.... thought it was all controlled by the left wing jew filled media?

oh wait fox news :rolleyes:
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: KK4 on October 23, 2007, 06:25:31 pm
kk4 do you believe everything you read??

...ii.... thought it was all controlled by the left wing jew filled media?

oh wait fox news :rolleyes:

lel. (do you really expect a serious response from such an obvious flaming?)
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 23, 2007, 06:53:20 pm
what's a lel?

I seriously want to know, that's not an acronym I know?
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Impeal on October 23, 2007, 06:56:15 pm
Topic's flown it's course and is just turning into a bunch of trolling at this point.
Title: Six nukes flown to wrong base, insecure for 36 hours.
Post by: Jester on October 23, 2007, 07:07:33 pm
yeah, guys, just ignore kk4 if you dont like what he says. he isnt breaking any rules, he just has really really dumb views. if he does stuff against the rules, we'll ban him. don't start outright flaming him or unfortunately youll find its you who gets banned! call his views stupid, debate all you want if you really think it'll solve anything, but don't derail topics with your GOD DAMN YOU ARE AN IDIOT I HATE YOU!!!!