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Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 21, 2007, 12:28:29 am
There is something about that woman I tells you. Not only was she co-president with her husband, a very successful corporate lawyer, and even won the Senate seat for NY despite never living in the state, but now even the arms industry loves her! She's quite a woman... and she is going to be awarded with the democratic nomination and perhaps even the presidency (unless my man Ron Paul can stop her).

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3075691.ece


All of the big money is behind this woman, and honestly it makes me uneasy...
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Roman on October 21, 2007, 12:44:17 am
i think she's a reptile
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: crone_lover720 on October 21, 2007, 12:48:05 am
she likes to take the worst parts of each party and piece them together as her own iirc (let me check this)

edit: ok

well I skipped over a lot, but so far I disagree with her support of invading iraq (lol), support of the patriot act, and... that's it. I forget why I HATED HER so much? maybe I skipped something important
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Doktormartini on October 21, 2007, 12:50:09 am
She's a faggot even most all the democrats I know hate her.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 21, 2007, 12:52:36 am
yeah she's pretty terrible. too bad she's gonna get the nomination and that she'll probably be better than any Republican on the field but jesus christ ugh.

edit: your color commentary is pretty horrid though.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Parker on October 21, 2007, 12:56:30 am
The Gang Runs For Office

Franks: "Hates Freedom."
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Lars on October 21, 2007, 02:02:25 am
She's like the only major (as in, familiar even to the people hidden in the northern corner of the world) politician behind Jack Thompson's back. 'nuff said.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Wash Cycle on October 21, 2007, 04:12:20 am
i think she's a reptile
is she a flying shapeshifting reptile allied with the illumnati who helped build the pyramids and currently control the worlds banks along with 8 jews that live part time underground in a bunker and part time on mars?
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 21, 2007, 04:27:26 am
i think she's a reptile

is she a flying shapeshifting reptile allied with the illumnati who helped build the pyramids and currently control the worlds banks along with 8 jews that live part time underground in a bunker and part time on mars?

Holy fuck... how did you know!? ... I mean, stop acting like a Illuminati disinformation agent!
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: xanque on October 22, 2007, 11:25:06 am
This is why I'm not going to vote.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on October 22, 2007, 11:39:34 am
Just another reason why the current US party structure is completely ineffective.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Vellfire on October 22, 2007, 12:08:41 pm
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Roman on October 22, 2007, 05:12:09 pm
Quote from: Wash Cycle
is she a flying shapeshifting reptile allied with the illumnati who helped build the pyramids and currently control the worlds banks along with 8 jews that live part time underground in a bunker and part time on mars?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0qoaUQLeHhY

undeniable proof
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Shadow Kirby on October 22, 2007, 05:25:06 pm
Wait. So on one hand she says "violent video games are evil" and on the other she gets cash from the weapon industry.

Ha, the sweet smell of hypocrisy.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: kentona on October 22, 2007, 06:25:05 pm
This is why americans should vote for Colbert.  Or Dave Barry.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on October 22, 2007, 06:41:36 pm
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/48013/hillarious.jpg)

she seems really power hungry, and what's up with her hair??
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Grunthor on October 22, 2007, 07:24:55 pm
I changed my political affiliation just so I can vote against her in the primary next year.  She strikes me as far too cold, calculating, and manipulative.  I'll vote for Obama or Edwards instead.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: alucard on October 22, 2007, 07:25:38 pm
haha who can blame bill for cheating on her.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 22, 2007, 09:13:32 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0qoaUQLeHhY

undeniable proof

Oddly enough, I have heard rumors that she freaks out at people if they look her in the eye... Maybe David Icke WAS right! too bad he left the "expose the NWO" movement.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Ratt on October 22, 2007, 09:23:36 pm
Even though I've lived in NY and would have voted for her in NY, I refuse to vote for her for president now that I can.

That said, I have really no idea who I actually want yet.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Randy Moist on October 22, 2007, 09:33:19 pm
She is very political and yeah I don't really care for her. I'll probably vote 3rd party if she wins the nomination.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Mama Luigi on October 22, 2007, 09:43:23 pm
Ew, Hilary Clinton.

Barack Obama ftw. That or Colbert, if he actually proves he has some presidential capability.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Wash Cycle on October 22, 2007, 10:27:49 pm
I changed my political affiliation just so I can vote against her in the primary next year.  She strikes me as far too cold, calculating, and manipulative.  I'll vote for Obama or Edwards instead.
I've honestly thought about registering as a democrat just to do this

but I've also thought the reverse to help keep romney from getting the republican nomination

I havent decided what I'll do yet (but I better soon :-\)
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Ryan on October 22, 2007, 10:28:12 pm
HILLARY

christ she sucks but she's still 500x better than any of the republicans
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Grunthor on October 23, 2007, 12:53:51 am
I've honestly thought about registering as a democrat just to do this

but I've also thought the reverse to help keep romney from getting the republican nomination

I havent decided what I'll do yet (but I better soon :-\)

The republicans have pretty much screwed themselves over during the last 7 years, so whoever gets the nomination for them will most likely lose to the democrat nominee anyways.  So I wouldn't worry about Romney.  Besides, nobody's going to vote for a Mormon anyway.  Especially white middle class evangelicals which make up the majority of the Republican voting base.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 23, 2007, 12:55:08 am
I've honestly thought about registering as a democrat just to do this

but I've also thought the reverse to help keep romney from getting the republican nomination

I havent decided what I'll do yet (but I better soon :-\)

I just found out that Blackwater Executive Cofer Black is advising the Romney Campaign.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/10/dem-blackwater-.html
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Zatham on October 23, 2007, 06:20:40 am
Just another reason why the current US party structure is completely ineffective.
Wtf!? You get TWO whole options!
Not just one.
TWO.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: The Truth on October 23, 2007, 08:14:32 am
Wtf!? You get TWO whole options!
Not just one.
TWO.

and they both suck so much i want to shoot myself in the dick
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: xanque on October 23, 2007, 11:28:16 am
A long time ago I signed up for Obama's newsletter, so I still get emails from him.  The guy really, really hates Hillary.  It's cool that he's not accepting any funding from corporations, so his campaign is funded entirely by the people.  Hillary doesn't care where her money is coming from.

So if Obama does make it to the final round, I'd vote.  But I really doubt he will. 
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Phanixis on October 23, 2007, 02:33:40 pm
I wonder if anyone likes Hillary.  Her only qualification seems to be "Not a Republican."
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: xanque on October 23, 2007, 03:43:55 pm
I wonder if anyone likes Hillary.  Her only qualification seems to be "Not a Republican."
Exactly.  I definitely hate Bush, but I don't think Hillary would improve anything just because she's not of the same party affiliation.  I would hate to see another republican, but I'd hate to see Hillary in office as well. 
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Doktormartini on October 23, 2007, 08:17:15 pm
A long time ago I signed up for Obama's newsletter, so I still get emails from him.  The guy really, really hates Hillary.  It's cool that he's not accepting any funding from corporations, so his campaign is funded entirely by the people.  Hillary doesn't care where her money is coming from.

So if Obama does make it to the final round, I'd vote.  But I really doubt he will. 
I'm pretty sure his campaign is funded by AIPAC (American-Israel Public Affairs Committee).
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 23, 2007, 08:43:14 pm
pacs aren't corporations.

not that it's much better.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 23, 2007, 10:38:30 pm
A long time ago I signed up for Obama's newsletter, so I still get emails from him.  The guy really, really hates Hillary.  It's cool that he's not accepting any funding from corporations, so his campaign is funded entirely by the people.  Hillary doesn't care where her money is coming from.

So if Obama does make it to the final round, I'd vote.  But I really doubt he will. 

I believe that if corporate executive donate to his campaign out of their personal finances and not from the company coffers it is still designated a donation from an individual, so saying he doesn't accept money from corporations can be misleading. With that said however I don't see Obama going anywhere in this campaign. The guy came out of nowhere to run for president and quite frankly I don't think he has any serious aspirations at running, I think he is just a poster boy. Sadly, all of the major money is behind Hillary and they usually don't back losers. IMHO unless Ron Paul wins the republican nomination, the chances of which becoming much better, than it'll be a Hillary Clinton White House until 2012. IMHO non of the republicans, save for Paul, have any shot what so ever.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Ryan on October 23, 2007, 10:56:36 pm
I'm pretty sure his campaign is funded by AIPAC (American-Israel Public Affairs Committee).

he doesn't accept PACs either. sorry to burst your Israeli-hating bubble :(

also KK4 you're dumb as hell if you think Paul has any chance whatsoever of 1.) getting the republican nomination or 2.) winning a general election. have you seen him at the debates? he gets laughed at by his own party.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 23, 2007, 11:10:48 pm
A Fox News Neo-con audience which was most likely selected based on their views. Come on, do you really think that Fox news, part of the world's largest media empire is actually going to have a non biased audience? The man is a top-tier candidate and his momentum is only getting stronger.

Also, Obama could still be taking contributions of PAC members and be listing them as individual donations. The results can be skewed and unless you go over all of his records, which I doubt most people have the patience to do, then you don't know who exactly gave him money and who they are affiliated with.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: crone_lover720 on October 23, 2007, 11:20:20 pm
I imagine the only thing that gives people the illusion that Ron Paul is significant is the internet? I don't know for sure, but in my experience people generally don't even consider him an option when discussing political candidates. he has less a chance at winning the presidential election than these guys (http://www.nazi.org/) imo
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Ryan on October 24, 2007, 01:05:00 am
A Fox News Neo-con audience which was most likely selected based on their views. Come on, do you really think that Fox news, part of the world's largest media empire is actually going to have a non biased audience? The man is a top-tier candidate and his momentum is only getting stronger.

Also, Obama could still be taking contributions of PAC members and be listing them as individual donations. The results can be skewed and unless you go over all of his records, which I doubt most people have the patience to do, then you don't know who exactly gave him money and who they are affiliated with.

yes you got it fox news (or jews? lmao) scanned all the audience members to remove all of the Paul supporters
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Doktormartini on October 24, 2007, 01:11:40 am
Faux news lololol

Also he gets laughed at cause his views are so radically different then the other members of his party (he has good views but Kucinich is better imo).
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 01:33:28 am
Yes because audience screening is totally unheard of and was only invented in order to stop Ron Paul. Jesus! How could I have been fooled so easily. Luckily the world has the wise people of GW to tell them where they went wrong. lel.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 02:20:08 am
I imagine the only thing that gives people the illusion that Ron Paul is significant is the internet? I don't know for sure, but in my experience people generally don't even consider him an option when discussing political candidates. he has less a chance at winning the presidential election than these guys (http://www.nazi.org/) imo

not going to reply to KK4 because he's a fucking moron but yeah, it's only online. Ron Paul has barely polled above the margin of error (only managing to do so TWICE so far since he announced his candidacy) and both times by only one percent.

I wish he would get the nomination because he would be slaughtered so hard for his policies it would kill half the libertarians on the internet.

Also he gets laughed at cause his views are so radically different then the other members of his party (he has good views but Kucinich is better imo).

he has horrible views.

http://www.brokenlibrarian.org/ronpaul/ -a fairly objective description of Ron Paul's hideous views.

of particular note.

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The Darfur Accountability and Divestment Act - HR180 - 2007 - 110th Congress

Summary: This bill simultaneously prevents any federal government employee or agency from entering into or renewing a contract with any person or organization doing business with the government of Sudan, and authorizes state and local governments to do the same. This bill does not establish any economic sanctions or other restrictions on the business activities of private individuals; it is solely an act of divestment by the United States government itself.

Representative Ron Paul voted Nay on HR180.

the only one to do so.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Ryan on October 24, 2007, 02:21:46 am
the invisible hand of the free market will decide if darfur is a genocide
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 02:56:01 am
However Ron Paul is the only congressman to introduce legislation to restore the mother fucking consitution after the god damned Bush Junta decided to wipe their asses with it

Quote from: John Birch Society
New Bill to Repeal Military Commissions Act in House
By JBS Staff
Created 2007-10-22 21:21

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) recently introduced a bill that would restore the Constitution's system of checks and balances, as envisioned by our Founding Fathers. Titled the American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007 [1] (H.R. 3835), the bill would restore habeas corpus by repealing the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

The following is an excerpt from the American Freedom Agenda Act:

    (a) The Military Commissions Act of 2006 is hereby repealed.

    (b) The President is authorized to establish military commissions for the trial of war crimes only in places of active hostilities against the United States where an immediate trial is necessary to preserve fresh evidence or to prevent local anarchy.

    (c) The President is prohibited from detaining any individual indefinitely as an unlawful enemy combatant absent proof by substantial evidence that the individual has directly engaged in active hostilities against the United States, provided that no United States citizen shall be detained as an unlawful enemy combatant.

    (d) Any individual detained as an enemy combatant by the United States shall be entitled to petition for a writ of habeas corpus under section 2241 of title 28, United States Code.

The American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007 has been referred to the Committee on the Judiciary as well as the Committees on Armed Services, Foreign Affairs, and Intelligence.

Click here [2] to take action on the American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007.
http://www.jbs.org/node/6030/print

Restoring the rule of law here in the US is a hell of a lot more important than getting involved in the politics of another nation. What fucking good does it do us to be in Darfur (most likely slaughtering innocents, raping women and selling drugs and arms) when our own government can throw us in a fucking camp, strip us of our citizenship, torture and execute us as enemy combatants. Get your fucking head out of your ass and wake up.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: mr. odilo on October 24, 2007, 03:02:38 am
Hilary is half the man Bill is. The greater half, the half with more balls and less brain than you can imagine.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Doktormartini on October 24, 2007, 03:18:04 am
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My plan also allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain and
prevent Iraq from becoming a haven for international terrorism and reduce
the risk of all-out chaos. In addition, we will redeploy our troops to
other locations in the region, reassuring our allies that we will stay
engaged in the Middle East. And my plan includes a robust regional
diplomatic strategy that includes talking to Syria and Iran – something
this Administration has finally embraced.
Also not to mention that Obama lies.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 03:23:10 am
^^^^ for fuck's sake you are ridiculous. do you live in a magic world where a candidate that says FUCK IRAQ LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER out in the open gets elected? do hamburgers eat people in magic doktormartini land? probaby because COWS ROAM THE EARTH AS THEY SHOULD.

man kk4...

I seriously am concerned about your mental health sometimes. like, the constitution needs to be reaffirmed? since when? enemy combatant status was PURPOSEFULLY left out of the constitution because of the british, just like your precious right to guns was left in.

I mean, I like how you said WHO CARES ABOUT DARFUR...THE CONSTITUTION IS AT RISK, but the bill you link is one about giving people labeled enemy combatants rights they aren't even necessarily entitled to. I mean, I don't feel like debating the language of the bill, but Ron Paul wishes to CURTAIL people's rights with his We The People Act, which strikes me as far more relevant than last minute pandering to rights issues that have controversy attached to them.

Basically, you seem to have the misconception that singular acts will some how revoke completely depraved acts. A singular act allowing people labeled as enemy combatants to have rights is a noble thing. I agree. I think your decision that Paul is the only one to care about it is highly premature, speculative, and completely wrong, but hey, he did a decent thing.

Too bad he voted against not supporting mass murder. I don't see how you think the rights of enemy soldiers somehow equivocates the horror he does vote for.

Also I would like to reiterate this; KK4 drives topics OFF TOPIC on purpose. He makes sure he gets his jab in about some horrible issue and when someone unsuspecting asks about it, there goes the topic, and yet you allow him to post.

I'll get banned if I make a double post.

KK4 can justify how nukes are fun, why he stopped being a Nazi because Hitler wasn't cool enough, how he's concerned for the white race, and how his guns are more important than the lives of others, and drive EVERY TOPIC off topic, but he won't even get warned.

Just reiterating.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 03:39:06 am
First of all, I was on topic before you decided to come in here and slander me and spread dis-information. Perhaps you don't know about the military commissions act so you can be forgiven for your ignorance, however don't go around spreading disinformation and flaming me just because I don't march lock-in-step with what ever philosophy you adhere to. Stop trolling me and leave me be.

now back to the topic
The fact of the matter is not only is the arms industry behind Hillary, I assume because of her hawkish nature and support for the Iraq war and her saber rattling against Iran, but so is Rupert Murdoch of the largest media empire in the world. Also, the Bush clan is known for its close ties to her husband. However promising Obama or Kuchinich may seem Hillary has the backing of the establishment, and they're not going to get caught backing the wrong horse. IHMO Hillary is the one to beat in '08.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 03:42:22 am
no dude you weren't on topic because you started talking about ron paul in your first post. unless your topic was propaganda for Ron Paul, you initially created an atmosphere of "hey, what" from the very first post. if it is propaganda, that's a bannable offense as I remember.

ps btw: check the people supporting Ron Paul. last time I checked, he was in the lead with individual military contributions.

he also takes a lot of earmark money so he's just as bad as any of the others, and perhaps worse because he tries to act like he dont get NO MONEY.

pps: notice that not only did KK4 not actually offer a reason for Ron Paul's vote (which would have cost nothing and therefore his vote against it has nothing to do with ISSUES at all or how x is more important since it was a vote, not a fucking lobbying group) but he also did not address any of the points I brought up. the second I did mention however that he was breaking the rules, it's back to business DISCUSS THE LINK!!!!!!! OR YOU'RE BREAKING THE RULES.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 03:51:01 am
lel. Flame more.

I'm not going to drop to your level and endlessly go in a circular argument when your only points are that a) LOL KK4 is crazy, b) KK4 is a racist, c) KK4 likes guns, d) KK4 is a horrible human being. I brought up a story which I thought was interesting and injected my opinion on the matter, which I do not believe is a violation of anything.

Yes, he gets money from the Military in Iraq because he is the one saying "Bring them home now" not "we'll bring them home... eventually... after the occupation." He is also against military intervention, such as invading Darfur, because he doesn't want soldiers getting killed for political grandstanding especially when it's not out business to go there, which apparently the people giving him money agree with.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 04:22:49 am
refute the fact that you are a) crazy b) racist c) gun nut d) horrible human being. keep in mind I've got loads of evidence for this!

the reason your post violates a rule is because you brought up a candidate who is so far from winning he might as well be a gay jewish black male with one leg and a loincloth wearing an american flag instead of an actual opinion. you did not mention Barack Obama, the number two contender, or Dennis Kucinich, widely regarded as the most liberal of the candidates. instead you went directly for the low end of the opposite party. if your post was not propaganda, it was clearly off topic because it was so out of the scope of the news article in question.

secondly, what's to say Hillary's support isn't for the reason that as a Democrat, she'll sponsor less wars? it isn't but your reasoning is faulty in this exact regard. you also bring up Darfur as if it refutes Paul's vote (it does not since the vote said nothing about military spending) or as if any candidate seriously discusses military intervention in Darfur or that military intervention might not even be a bad thing in the case of the first genocide the world has seen in a while as opposed to the Iraq war.

thirdly what the fuck is lel!!!
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 04:34:16 am
lel. Flame less. You're reading too much into this. Also, I'd like to see your evidence against me, especially for A), B) and D). Yeah, I am a gun nut and proud of it. However this is not on topic and my precious discussion may get closed :(
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: HL on October 24, 2007, 04:44:01 am
hey steel theres this thing called private messages maybe you should use them instead of degenerating every topic KK4 posts in into crap, just ignore his posts maybe???

i know hes dumb and stuff but you're kind of bugging up topics that actually have discussion with other members, thats not cool dude!!

as for the topic on hand, I'm all Obama. Hilary doesn't appeal to me, espically since I think she's using the whole "My husband was the president!" deal to kind of luck out on her (people voted for Bill, therefore they'll vote for me) maybe???
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 04:47:28 am
A) you picked up a plastic skull, put a blond wig and a nazi hat on it, and stammered out it was the face of gun control. less than nine minutes later, you said men in black were coming to (as you somehow preemptively decided to roll with punches) slit your throat, your voice getting more and more insistent and eyes bugging out while sweat dripped off your brow and spattered your dad's office desk. you've also said rather pridefully that you believe in Alex Jones, a noted conspiracy theorist who is batshit crazy. you also keep saying lel which means nothing.

B) you told me in a PM that you were concerned about the white race, and that your reasons for disavowing the Nazi party were not empathy but (among other reasons) that Hitler wasn't as NEAT as you thought and the US government had funded him.

D) you shit up topics, you appear to be quite disliked all over the net to the degree that you have your own page devoted to your insanity, and you say quite deplorable propaganda without thinking twice.

for some odd reasons, the mods and admins have seen it fit to punish people that take issue with your opinions, regardless of how insanely disgusting they are, and warn and ban anyone that questions them, even though you take every possible opportunity to come off as biased and controversial as possible. since I've been ban evading for some time, if I get banned for this, it won't be a big deal for me. but I must say, I am seriously concerned for your mental health. you seem to have absolutely no logical processes at all; Ron Paul votes against NOT SUPPORTING GENOCIDE by giving GOVERNMENT MONEY to those that commit it, and you simply refuse to acknowledge it, saying that I'm reading too far into something the man himself wrote.

your discussion was corrupted from the start by a horrible opening post you KNEW you would make for the sole point of creating controversy. don't act like it's everyone else's fault to call you out on something you put yourself up to in the first place.

hey steel theres this thing called private messages maybe you should use them instead of degenerating every topic KK4 posts in into crap, just ignore his posts maybe???

i know hes dumb and stuff but you're kind of bugging up topics that actually have discussion with other members, thats not cool dude!!

as for the topic on hand, I'm all Obama. Hilary doesn't appeal to me, espically since I think she's using the whole "My husband was the president!" deal to kind of luck out on her (people voted for Bill, therefore they'll vote for me) maybe???

as I just said, read the opening post. the topic of voting for Ron Paul is either the original point of the topic (thus, propaganda disguised as news) or he started being offtopic just to cause controversy, also against the rules. let's also point out that no one has said anything really interesting or original in this topic so far other than HILLARY SUCKS.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 04:59:55 am
Steel:
A) That's not proof of insanity.
B) why don't you post the whole PM as it was intended to be posted as the answer to your question in the short lived [ask] KK4 topic.
D) lel. you seem to be the only one, aside from 2knet's IRC goons, who despises me here

Necrid:
I think both Obama and Hillary have flimsy platforms as they're both junior senators who were awarded their seats in the senate (Hillary bought hers and all of Obamas opposition seemed to drop out of the race after embarrassing facts started to surface.) She's a socialist whacko with the only thing going for her being she has rich friends with deep pockets and her hubby was the president. I dunno why either of them are considered for legitimate candidates...
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 05:07:23 am
so your reply to being bat shit crazy is that only people that don't like you think you are crazy.

jesus christ.

also what is lel. is this the sane part of your brain begging to be set free?

also also yes it is proof of insanity. purchasing nazi memorabilia and claiming political agendas are coming for you in the night to murder you isn't fucking healthy.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 05:09:40 am
See my reply is that you're an obvious troll, which is leltastic. Maybe you should let my words speak for themselves and not spin them... because you're failing.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 05:14:12 am
dude what is lel.

also uh before letting your words speak for themselves how about the fact that anyone with like...idk, what, fourth grade reading comprehension, can see you say this shit for yourself! you said ONLY THE MEAN ONES CALL ME CRAZY as if that doesn't make you crazy?

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After floating around the various internet groups for a while I slowly came to realize that the people who adhered to that message were fucking stupid. No one is going to talk to a person who is openly declaring themselves an enemy and no problems would ever get solved. It's the politics of division, and I decided that I was not going to take part in it because it was counter productive. Also, although I was concerned for the well being of my race, I like people of other races, and can't hate someone just because they're different. That's just ignorant as hell, and once again, I was not going to participate in ingnorance. I'd like all people to have an open and free discussion of honest problems, and racism, from alll sides (racism is not just a flaw in white individuals, will just degrade any open discussion into a shouting match, or much worse violence, which also doesn't solve things,

Also, after I began to distance myself from the views I began to learn that Hitler and the 3rd Reich was funded by the US establishment. I had originally been of the belief that Hitler was an individual who rose to power by force of will alone and rebuilt a shattered empire into a vast army it took the entire world to defeat. I was wrong. I found that Hitler was set up and funded by the very establishment, the globalist crime syndicate, which I was opposed to, and that WW2 was another needless bloodbath with the GCS funding all sides in order to bring about their plan for global government.

In addition, I began to learn that the hate movements were being run by the federal government through organized Zionist groups such as the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center and other groups. Why? So they can have a hated enemy for their dialectic to work. I will discuss this further if asked.

notice at no point does he say WELL THE NAZIS KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. the only part that is even remotely okay is the politics of divison part, but it's sandwiched between "they won't listen to us if we hate them therefore while the politics of killing jews is okay they will be onto us" and "I have a black friend!!!!"
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: KK4 on October 24, 2007, 05:21:44 am
And the words continue to be twisted in order to suit your sick little game, how pathetic it must me to enjoy trolling this much. You're a really entertaining guy. Lel.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on October 24, 2007, 05:45:09 am
i...posted your words.

this is what i mean man! i think you are seriously mentally ill. i posted YOUR PM. i'll gladly give my account to an admin or mod to verify that yes, this is the pm you sent.

but...I'm twisting words.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: Kaempfer on October 24, 2007, 05:59:36 am
Steel, I think "lel" is a nazi codeword for "lol".

Also, I hardly think steel is trolling, here. He has taken great offense to your opinion and is pointing out as much, and I don't think it was entirely his fault that this topic got switched to personal attacks on your loony-bin quality racism.

Every post you make to defend yourself sounds like you are accusing him of being some sort of troll out to get you while he plays his "sick little game" like he has some ulterior motive. zomgz it's a conspiracy get to the chopper

Also, I don't really see much "spin" on his part. Most of your words are pretty straightforward to me, at any rate! I also like your custom title, KK4; "Slit. Your. Throat." That is really cool, man. You honestly strike me as the type of person who would wear a trench coat to school one day with a number of small calibre semi-automatic weapons hidden underneath it, or the almost-as-bad type of person who dismisses such notions as being "too pedestrian".

Also, this
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Ron Paul opposes mandatory vaccinations, even in the case of national emergencies such as smallpox outbreaks.
Title: There is something about Hilary...
Post by: dada on October 24, 2007, 06:13:36 am
Man, this is one good topic. The battle of the century! Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with why this topic was started anymore. Somehow, it has changed into an analysis of the subtextual narratives in KK4's posts, and while it's fun to deconstruct his posts and point out all the treasures that we find, it's not really getting us anywhere! So I'm just going to lock this now, and hopefully this can be duked out at a later time.

By the way, I think LEL means "Laughing Extremely Loud".