How do you figure? The very picture of the Wikipedia article has rings of fire going from white, to orange, to red; outside to inside. This is red, yellow, with a black slit. Imo the traditional NES version corresponds more to, say, the Super Mario version. Plus it just looks weird! A fire flower item = a flower that blows fire, in my mind!It swapped through colours in the NES game. At one point it was red/yellow, like the SSB screenshot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzQuWI7w8AIt swaps through a used pallete in the NES version. In the above ground levels, it's white/red/orange/yellow etc, and below ground it is blue/white/grey etc.
Fire flower is blue with a black slit according to the cartoon.
Ok, I did not want to turn this topic to penii & sexual themes like the last topic, but the new fire flower looks like a fleshlight to me... :shock:
:shady:
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The clock pauses the game, suprise! Nah, I hope slows down time.I think that's the clock from Super Mario 2 that makes all the enemies stop temporarily so I think that it's probably gonna freeze all other players but the one who uses it in time or something.
Awww! It makes you want to use him as a playable character.
QuoteAwww! It makes you want to use him as a playable character.
QFT
Grey Fox looks much more interesting to play that that Snake guy.
NEAT! Maybe we'll see some Sonic characters as Assist Trophies, too!
And, I wonder if we'll still be able to grab if we aren't shielding...
The shield grabs I knew about, though. Of course, there are 'straight grabs.' With the Wiimote sideways, the minus button is grab without shielding first, so... Not a big deal, this was in Melee and the original as well.
I wouldn't fully believe that guy's english when it comes to details since it's almost worse then mine.
I wouldn't fully believe that guy's english when it comes to details since it's almost worse then mine.
This pretty much decides that Ness is not in the game, since Lucas has all of his moves and there are no clones.
There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now
On the shield thing though, the Z-button has always been hard for me, and so I've never used grabs. I guess I'll just be that much more awesome when Brawl comes around now that I can GRAB.
On the shield thing though, the Z-button has always been hard for me, and so I've never used grabs. I guess I'll just be that much more awesome when Brawl comes around now that I can GRAB.
Did you use PK Thunder directly, or did you whip it around to turn Ness into a projectile? Because it's a lot more effective the second way. Using PK Thunder directly against them mostly just seems useful as an annoyer for opponents who hide in some comfortable spot and try to make you come to them.
Too bad Ness isn't in this. I can still hope though...
I use both, maybe I'm just not good at using it, but someone always manages to thwart my plans, since the time it takes for the thunder to flip around can easily tell what direction your going in. (leading for an easy air dodge)One of my friends specialized in ness, and with a little practice PK Thunder is deadly. I really hope Lucas doesn't replace Ness however, it just wouldn't be Super Smash Bros without Ness.
Now, none of my friends specialized in ness, but when they did play as him, most of us could dodge/counter the ness projectile easily. (unless we weren't paying attention or something)
I use the Z button exclusively for grabbing and L for rolling. Plus with the Z button, you can run and grab.This.
Me too. The Z button was the biggest fuck up on the Gamecube. I hear you'll be able to totally customise the controls in Brawl though, which sounds hot.
Thank god they got rid of PK Cross. I still to this day have not figured out what it's used for.Uh, PK Cross? I think you mean PK Flash. If you charge it up to the maximum, it's insanely powerful. However it leaves Ness stuck in place. It's best for edge-guarding, or certain places where an opponent must pass through it to reach Ness. Not good for much else.
I always liked running and doing a shield grab as well
It seems like players that use people like kirby and deedeedee will have an advantage in this map. Mainly due to the fact they have so many jumps.By the look of the blog post, the lava doesn't come from the bottom this time. It looks like it'll drop from the sides and the gigantic waves, which looks like an incredible addition
By the look of the blog post, the lava doesn't come from the bottom this time. It looks like it'll drop from the sides and the gigantic waves, which looks like an incredible addition
Xenosaga is shit, regardless of console/system.
I don't think Ridley's gonna be in. If he was, they wouldn't mention him in the update and would have probably revealed the stage after Ridley is comfirmed. Who knows though.But they didn't mention him in the level description, besides saying that Norfair is where Ridley was in Metroid, and you have to think that they'd be kinda silly not to include Ridley in RIDLEY'S STAGE when they put Kraid in KRAID'S STAGE in Brawl.
fuck woo the ice climbers are back (late to the party)
also I need to stop playing melee so much or change to another character because I am so good with fox it is pissing my friends off (Ice Climbers is my alternate); I always liked running and doing a shield grab as well
I would advice from not saying such foolish things unless you want to anger the higher ups.
Norfair is the location in Metroid where the enemy boss Ridley was.
Meh. Xenosaga still sucks.I want him to be in too, but I don't really see that as much of a point in our favor. It's a simple statement of fact: Norfair is where you fought Ridley.
On topic: If anything, I think the release of Norfair raises Ridley's chances of being playable in Brawl.
Maybe I'm looking too much into it (and I probably am), but that seems like a good sign (to Ridley fans at least).
On topic: If anything, I think the release of Norfair raises Ridley's chances of being playable in Brawl.
Maybe I'm looking too much into it (and I probably am), but that seems like a good sign (to Ridley fans at least).
I want him to be in too, but I don't really see that as much of a point in our favor. It's a simple statement of fact: Norfair is where you fought Ridley.
There's also a chance Ridley might be an Assist Trophy as well, which I'm more leaning towards. I think there is one last newcomer slot left, so I guess we'll just wait and see if Ridley made it as a playable or not.He'd damn well better not be an assist trophy, that's a huge waste.
I always liked the Metroid stages, but I'm hoping for a change of scenery, ie Phendrana Drifts, or the Phazon mines or something.
Or maybe they could use Brinstar from Super Metroid. That would kick ass as a stage, with maybe an appearance from Spore Spawn or something idk.Perhaps. I can also see Aether/Dark Aether being a stage as the Dark World gimmick would fit right in, as the planet warps to Dark aether you have to fight over the light beacons.
EDIT: Also do you think the inclusion of stage builder means that there will be no returning stages?
Especially Captain Falcons.
No.
We don't want any new Captain Falcon voice overs!
FALCONE PARNCH!
I'm not the only one who thought Ness said PK Cross then?(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/793/793389/ness_trophy_1180664948.jpeg)
I admit I have no idea what the move is called, but it sure sounds like Cross.
And Chuck Norris has way more important things to do than a voiceover for a racing superhero.
Perhaps. I can also see Aether/Dark Aether being a stage as the Dark World gimmick would fit right in, as the planet warps to Dark aether you have to fight over the light beacons.You called it (seriously I can really see this happening).
And Chuck Norris has way more important things to do than a voiceover for a racing superhero.
I'm not the only one who thought Ness said PK Cross then?
Seemed like a lot of people thought Ike's final smash would be Ragnarok. I wonder how long Ike can move around before he has to use it.
Donkey Kong's Final Smash is by far the worst.
Maybe he turns into gigadonkey and we just don't know yet.
yea, my main in Melee is DK and seeing his final smash made me die a little. It has no range and what i've seen from it, it doesnt really 1hit kill so what the fucks the point. It looks like someone can just sit on the other edge of the map and kinda like dance while my smash ball goes to waste. Oh well.
Something's telling me that there's going to be a big update this week.
The updates haven't been too interesting recently, so something ..could happen.
Either that or they're running out of updates.
I just noticed in the taunt update one of the available lines is SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
These short messages are entered in advance' date=' and you send them by taunting.[/quote']Quote from: 'With AnyoneYour opponent will not know your name or any information about you' date=' and neither of you can send short messages.[/quote']
The 16th = big update.Shit. It is too.
Calling it now.
EDIT: Cause its Miyamoto's B-Day.
uh, Falcon is already pretty fucking strong as it is. his neutral air can KO most of the cast after one or two simple grab combos and the technical aspect of doing them is pretty easy.
his big drawback is that he's so fucking fast you usually mess up because of that.
Shit. It is too.I totally knew that today was the 15th.
Big update tomorrow gents.
We knew all of these already, except the attacking with the Dimensional Cape is cool? I'm not sure what the difference is between Down-B and rolling/dodging.
Tilt the stick to move the position where he’ll reappear!
I think you mean his forward air. His neutral air is pretty meh as a killing move.isn't neutral air the knee?
You are right about his drawback though. Exactly why I can't play him well.
isn't neutral air the knee?
well i meant the knee anyway so whatever that thing is
wish marth would still be in this, i want my braindead easy to play top tiers :(
But can you honestly say you would not do precisely what I have outlined and end up buying both games (remember, you didn't know the second version was in the works when the first edition would be released)?I can honestly say I wouldn't have.
But here's a thought. If Nintendo was really smart (ie greedy and underhanded) they should have axed all the online features and released the game on December 3 as promised. People would be disappointed with the subtraction, but they would have still bought the game. Then, Nintendo could continue to smooth out the online features, secretly of course, and then suprisingly rerelease the game later in the year with those features and call it some bullshit like Super Smash Bros Braw: Championship Edition. It would be the same game but now with online features. Hell, they could even add one more new character to sucker in people who can't justify rebuying the game simply for online features alone.That would be funny... Though, I'd be pretty pissed. But I don't think Nintendo has done anything underhanded or greedy... Correct me if I'm wrong.
This way, Nintendo could have both took advantage of the preholiday market AND sold the same game a second time to the same people. I'm sure people would complain and you, reading this, naturally hate the idea. But can you honestly say you would not do precisely what I have outlined and end up buying both games (remember, you didn't know the second version was in the works when the first edition would be released)?Part of the reason I've always liked Nintendo is that they don't pull underhanded garbage like this. It's true, they could easily have done this, and made twice as much money on the same game. But, they have good business ethics, and I admire that. They don't release stuff they know is faulty just to meet a deadline.
But here's a thought. If Nintendo was really smart (ie greedy and underhanded) they should have axed all the online features and released the game on December 3 as promised. People would be disappointed with the subtraction, but they would have still bought the game. Then, Nintendo could continue to smooth out the online features, secretly of course, and then suprisingly rerelease the game later in the year with those features and call it some bullshit like Super Smash Bros Braw: Championship Edition. It would be the same game but now with online features. Hell, they could even add one more new character to sucker in people who can't justify rebuying the game simply for online features alone.Smart? There would be a fucking outrage. Nintendo would lose alot of rep for it and 360/PS3 fans would gloat alot at the money-making Nintendo.
Dapper: Instead of releasing a second game, why not release a "patch" via the Wii's shop or system update? I imagine that would be the way to go.
I really wish Nintendo would stop intentionally crippling it's own online service.Couldn't possible be manpower/money/technical issues combined with he service being completely free.
I'd rather NOT have some 540 pound naked trucker cursing me off when I drop-kick him off the bottom of the screen in online play, thank you very much.
Nintendo will learn their lesson eventually. It'll take them time, but they'll come around.I don't know that they will. They're making money hand over fist, and the people complaining about friend codes or the lack of ladders and ranking boards are largely the hardcore gamers. The casual market's not too concerned about them....they don't even really play that many online games. And they're making up more and more of the market share, and easily outnumber the hardcore. Ultimately, the fact that they aren't losing money because of the Friend Code system is going to mean that they have no reason to "learn" anything.
It'd be pretty awesome if it happened before Brawl though. Online rankings = fuck yes.
I'd rather NOT have some 540 pound naked trucker cursing me off when I drop-kick him off the bottom of the screen in online play, thank you very much.Especially if he was playing as Peach.
OOPS ANOTHER SHITTY UPDATE TIME TO GO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT
8-bit gameplay feature next update (turns everyone into an 8-bit character).
And the shitty updates just keep on comin'......because the game should've been out very soon. Now they need way more filler.
The soccer ball could be from Mario Strikers. That's the Mario & friends equivalent to soccer.Most likely this. No idea what it could be used for though.
Most likely this. No idea what it could be used for though.
The Smart Bomb...explodes a lot bigger than a Bob-omb, but is that all it does? I fail to see the difference besides blast radius and potential for failure.
Anyone who doesn't know Saki should get Sin and Punishment on the VC, by the way. Well worth the $8. Or is it $10? Either way.
Gee, what could Sephiroth's final smash POSSIBLY BE?
There is probably many balls (Volleyballs, soccerballs, etc) that can spawn but all act the same, as projectiles. Like the food in SSBM, there is many different looks to it, but it is all the same.
EDIT: 200th post.
I guess we just can't get enough to look forward to. I'm sure the Dojo will still leave plenty of surprises for us, but that doesn't mean we don't want to know RIGHT NOW GODDAMMIT.Quoted for the GODDAMN truth!
Wow. I hate to say it' date=' but we really have thought of everything.[/quote']
With this function' date=' you just shake the Wii Remote to do a Smash Attack in the direction you shook it. It’s a little bonus we added.[/quote']
I called this back in the other topic when I was saying how Nunchuck + Remote controls could work. Never expected it'd actually be in the game though. Although like I said before this is as far as I can see motion controls working in Brawl & I'm glad that's as far as they took it.
I never thought that when people said you could completely customize your controls they really meant completely, you know like everything. Heh I'm gonna set my controls up so that it actually feels like a side-scrolling platformer game (Classic controller: Y = Attack, X or maybe a = Special, b= Jump).
at the risk of sounding like a huge dingdong, i am really, honestly glad they gave us the ability to turn control-stick jumping off.
Because I am a LINK PLAYER in Melee, and the difference between a ground Up+B and a jumping Up+B is pretty important! One is a very useful move with reasonable recovery time, and the other is a massively shitty move that leaves you floating hopelessly in midair with your dick hanging out for a full 5 seconds
It's also going to be nice for Up-tilted A attacks, which are really hard to pull off with any consistency (because if you tilt it too fast, it's a smash, and if you tilt it too far, it's a jump).
ugh
HEH MAKE WAY, POWER PLAYER COMIN THROUGH.
wowI think they kinda have to because of that pushed back date... They're doing everything they possibly can to keep the weekday updates.
they really are scraping the barrel now :/
wowSeeing how they still have two months to fill without spoiling any of the major secrets, we're probably going to be stuck with a lot of lame updates. It's still good news, just not much to get excited over.
they really are scraping the barrel now :/
it's been so long since i played ssb64 i cannot remember anything from itAll of the ones that were specifically called N64 stages in-game. I think they were even tagged "(N64)" in-game. For all I can remember, they were identical to the N64 versions, but like you it's been a while since I played the N64 version. I assumed the Melee stages for Brawl were the same deal.
what stages did they carry over to melee? i dont remember any stages looking n64 shitty in ssbm
That topic got locked due to some bullshit and this one was started. Also, I am thrilled that the Temple is back in this game. It was my favorite stage in Melee. But what are the areas that differ from the last game? I'm not seeing any.What the fuck? Where? The last one got locked because people stopped discussing the updates and started flaming each other over views about the storyline and competetive players and shit.
Also really weak update (all of them lately have been) but it's nice to know that some of the cooler stages from Melee will be returning (tournament players rejoice at the inclusion of Final Destination).
I still want to see the Hyrule Castle stage come back from the original game.
Yay Final Destination! Seriously though, that's the worst tourney stage, aside from Fountain of Dreams. Actually, FoD is probably better.
Fuck yes. That stage kicked so much ass. I don't see why they didn't include it in Melee. Hopefully it'll be in Brawl, as well as Saffron City. That stage was pretty cool too.
It's like they brought back all the ones they didn't need to, and left out all the ones that should have returned. Dream Land is not much different than the Green Greens, Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story are similar enough, and the Kongo Jungle has a floating blast barrel just like the N64 Kongo Jungle!
I would've brought back Hyrule Castle, Saffron City, and maybe that secret Mushroom Kingdom stage. But, I don't have a say in these things...
Have you even played in Yoshi's Story and Yoshi's Island? The stages are completely different. Just because they both have "Yoshi" in the title doesn't mean they're the same. The same goes for the DK stages. They both have barrels, but they're very different stages. That's like saying Battlefield and Fountain of Dreams are the same because they both have platforms.When you put it that way...yeah. My gripe seems pretty unfounded. I just feel like the stages they brought back were similar enough to their new-age counterparts that they could've chosen the N64 ones differently.
Monday is December 3 - the day this game was supposed to be released before it got delayed right? Maybe that calls for a big update.
That's what I was thinking. You know what would make me cream my pants? Smash Bros. 64 on VC. It'd be the most perfect thing ever. Or a Brawl demo. But yeah, the SSB64 VC would be amazing. Too bad I'm not going to be up to catch it tonight. Stupid sickness.I think more likely they'll wait until the game is about to come out and do a month of Smash Brothers like they did for Metroid when Metroid Prime 3 came out. SSB64, a trailer for Smash, and....I dunno, something else for the fourth week.
Monday is December 3 - the day this game was supposed to be released before it got delayed right? Maybe that calls for a big update.
Think they'll add a curse filter?They don't have to. That's the whole point of Friend Codes. You can't talk to anyone who isn't specifically a "friend" (as far as the game is concerned) of yours. So Nintendo can't be blamed for how your friends talk. They don't have to do anything to protect children because the Friend Codes system takes care of all of that.
The only pokeball pokemon I didn't like from melee was Polygon, mainly because he attacked extremely fast right out of the pokeball. All the other pokemon are fairly easy to dodge.
Yeah, its cool to know for sure how exactly they work. And they do count as an item that can be switched on or off. That also means they're an item that can be turned up!Mario's super flame against Samus' laser... This is a definite tide-turning thing. You could be 1 hit away from breaking open the ball, then fly away and someone else gets it! This is going to be fun.
Heh heh heh...Giga Bowser vs. Landmaster Tank...
Pity Final Smash is stupid. Since when in a fighting game should the player be rewarded for sucking? I mean, if it's a handicap battle that you're looking for, there's already an option for that. I personally won't be playing with Smash Balls anyway, but I hope that there will be an option to turn the Pity Final Smash off.
Hope they don't show all the characters, and hope they haven't shown all the characters.
I knew most of this, except there BETTER be a option to turn Pity Smashes off. I'm the best out of my friends and I don't want any stupid AWESOME COMEBACKS or whatever because they sucked and I rocked.
but he doesnt want his friends to have fun
Hearing you idiots going on about skill in Smash Bros. made me laugh out loud (or LOL as some twats may say). There's no skill. It's a game of button mashing and random power ups. Skill? Hahahahah! You guys are hilarious!:fogetnah:
And then there’s an element known as the Pity Final Smash. Once a significant point advantage is reached' date=' the losing player is given a bonus chance. When you get this, you will reappear after a KO in Final Smash standby mode.[/quote']
Guys, it isn't that hard to understand. And stop saying that, "OH NO! I WON'T ALWAYS BEAT MY FRIENDS ANYMORE!" It is just a game, not real life fighting.
Bad news for Europeans, SSBB isn't coming out over there until summer.What! That's clearly just taking the piss now.
SSBB delay (http://www.videogamer.com/news/06-12-2007-7051.html)
Hearing you idiots going on about skill in Smash Bros. made me laugh out loud (or LOL as some twats may say). There's no skill. It's a game of button mashing and random power ups. Skill? Hahahahah! You guys are hilarious!
PS: Nintendo hate Europeans.
Button mashing may be effective in some fighting games but it absolutely does not work in smash.
I'm sure the US date and JP date will be pushed back again pretty soon.Oh god no! No fucking way, man! It is unbearable to wait any longer!!!!
And there is one more important thing...
When you have a battle mode that runs online like Basic Brawl, the problem of what to do with hidden characters arises. If one of your opponents chooses a character you haven’t unlocked yet, it will be spoiled for you immediately.
But even without this mode, given the proliferation of the Internet these days, the existence of hidden characters is going to get exposed anyway.
So, this time I’m moving in the direction of not being too hung up on hidden characters.
Can you play with your user created stages online?
Walkthrough of how to play online against anyone today. Nothing major, and a couple things that could really suck. I WANT to be able to create a room, just so I can make the game how I want to play it. I hope we'll be able to change it from a 2-minute KO fest as well, as 1) 2 minutes isn't anywhere near long enough of a game, and 2) I HATE timed matches. Give me a stock count, or give me another game.You know, this got me thinking. Imagine if we'd be able to set a 99 stock match online lolololz but yeah I'm curious as to how this will end up. :fogetmmh: The thing I'm worried about right now is the number of players on random. 4-player is fun and all, but ultimately I prefer fighting 1on1 matches. That said, there should be an option allowing us to determine the number of players in the matches we play. I'm looking forward to Wi-Fi very much so I hope that it won't suck.
That’s epic! Can we really do this? Wouldn’t you say it’s way better than having all your opponents drop out?God haha he gets so excited sometimes.
This is Twilight Princess all over again. I'm sure the US date and JP date will be pushed back again pretty soon.They did. They had it done eight months ago. If you're talking about Nintendo WFC for Wii, I mean. Smash was probably pushed back for the same reason all Nintendo games get pushed back--they didn't feel like they were done yet. They're late with every game they put out. Getting surprised and upset about it at this point is an exercise in futility.
Things like this are the reason I hate my wii. Nintendo knew Smash Bros was coming. They should've had their wifi done looooong ago.
Scared of the unknown more like...
These updates are probably helping the game too. We'll all think the wifi is going to suck, and when it comes out, it'll be awesome!
Thank god this mode is here, now I can be nice!!!
i still wonder what we're going to play this game on though, i was thinking maybe printers??? :hmm:
The F-Zero icon is on the dojo's database, so he'll be in it one way or the other. I'm assuming he's going to be the last character before the 15th, when they announce all the play-ables in that japanese magazine.That doesn't mean anything, they used it for Samurai Goroh.
That doesn't mean anything, they used it for Samurai Goroh.
Dojo is early with its lame update today. Nice song though.
This is... Well, it’s sort of hard to explain using only static shots, but try toggling it on and off on your own TV. Play with the setting that fits your taste.I CANT I WONT HAVE THE GAME FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
i dont understand why everyone is getting so worked up about these updates, I haven't seen too many games, where the developers set up a website and give us ALL SMALL INFORMATION ABOUT GAME SO YOU CAN KNOW WHAT IS IN IT WAY BEFORE IT EVEN COMES OUTits just funny that they keep bothering when they obviously dont have any updates left
but idk...maybe im just happy they are doing that at all....
grr fuck options and rotation!!
its just funny that they keep bothering when they obviously dont have any updates left
next update: THIS IS THE TITLE SCREEN YOU CAN PRESS A TO START
Would be cool if it just selected characters you weren't playing as and put them in the karts rather than nameless Shy Guys :/.
Some kid at smashboards threw a tantrum (omg no way) about Waluigi not being in Brawl. He said he should have been in before "shitty third party characters like Snake and Sonic" (because Waluigi is so important to the Mario franchise and gaming in general). I found it amusing.lol at this. Waluigi is about as close you can get to a shitty third party character who is actually part of the first party developer.
So if he's never actually fought anyone, why would someone care that he isn't a fighter in brawl?because people are idiots?
because people are idiots?
I was just thinking about something. I think that there will be only one more newcomer revealed and no more veterans revealed. Look at the Characters page on the website. There is three rows with four characters in each for both the Newcomers and Veteran Fighters category. In the veteran fighters category, all the rows are filled. But in the Newcomers category, there is one space remaining.
I dunno, maybe that's a little far fetched.
Is everyone aware of the thing with the Japanese magazine that is supposedly going to reveal all the characters tomorrow?I was looking around on SmashBoards, and apparently it's only going to show what we already know (stuff from the dojo). So much for that. :fogetshrug:
I was just thinking about something. I think that there will be only one more newcomer revealed and no more veterans revealed. Look at the Characters page on the website. There is three rows with four characters in each for both the Newcomers and Veteran Fighters category. In the veteran fighters category, all the rows are filled. But in the Newcomers category, there is one space remaining.
I dunno, maybe that's a little far fetched.
Is everyone aware of the thing with the Japanese magazine that is supposedly going to reveal all the characters tomorrow?
What if he was a playable character o_O
He would only be a useful fighter in his spider-time-machine... in which case he would be too badass. Being the boss for New Pork City would be nice though.Oh god agreed. I actually hope they do that now... that would be such an epic battle... I would shed tears of joy :fogetcry:
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This stage looks interesting. Although the Parasite Queen doesn't break out of that energy field in Metroid Prime, it does spray green acid from it's mouth. Maybe it'll do that once in a while.
In the kirby game's DeDeDe just sucks things in and spites them out.
Well you never know.
Megaman would be pretty cool I guess, just another blaster character though
I'm still going to end up using Peach anyway :gwa:
Hmm...I wonder who the other third party will be if they don't put Megaman in? Moogle would be badass, but that's just a dream. Maybe they won't even add any more third parties but I really hope they do. Two seems like a weird number.
Good luck, but just fyi i'm pretty sure people reported that Peach was seriously de-powered. For all those Melee Peach nuts, you know that Peach is pretty much insane with her moves and strength, so... She's not as much of an extreme powerhouse this time around. (I don't have a link or anything, but I know I read this somewhere...)
She didn't get nerfed that much. From the demo, she was one of the best characters along with Pikachu and Meta Knight. Her down smash got nerfed (you know, the one that could do 70% fully charged and crouch cancelled) but her forward smash got a massive buff and can kill at pretty low percentages. All they basically changed is which moves people will be using. Otherwise, she's still probably just as powerful.
Oh, and her Turnips are bigger aswell
Oooooh I bet they are!
:fogetnaughty:
mmmmmmm
Oooooh I bet they are!
:fogetnaughty:
mmmmmmm
Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It's a great series...but, Nintendo hasn't asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I'm still waiting...we have a little bit of time left, it's not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we'd like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they'll give me a call.
I know this is going to come as quite a blow to all of you out there had been keeping your fingers crossed for Megaman's appearance, but it looks like you're out of luck this time. Or are you? As he says "we still have a little bit of time left." But will it be enough time for some last minute coding?No, I really don't feel like that is possible at all. I don't feel negotiations work like this, especially this late into development. I'm disappointed to hear this though. Mega Man deserved to be in this game, as he's much more representative of a Nintendo character than Sonic and especially Snake.
Aha... Well, i'm at least glad to hear her down-smash was nerfed a bit. That was annoying. Hopefully Pikachu's will get a little depowered as well... I'm hoping for a slower game than melee!
Everyone can change colours' date=' of course. But Wario alone is special...[/quote']
that doesnt sound too good
doo doo doo
Smashing the holiday hopes and dreams of MegaMan and Smash Bros. fans everywhere, Keiji Inafune has stated uncategorically that at this time, Megaman is not going to be a character in Super Smash Brothers Brawl.
Well, they said you can still listen to the original.
My question is, though, does the Super Sonic hurt people, or do you actually have to attack?
Well, they said you can still listen to the original.
My question is, though, does the Super Sonic hurt people, or do you actually have to attack?
THANKS FOR RUINING MORE GREAT SONIC MUSIC JUN SENOUE.
honestly, i wish that guy would stop bastardizing music. the original song was a GREAT piece of music but man when senoue decides to start hacking away at it with his horrible YEAH GUITARS shit i cannot help but cry a little bit.
i don't know why they would call upon him of ALL PEOPLE to compose music for the game
THANKS FOR RUINING MORE GREAT SONIC MUSIC JUN SENOUE.
honestly, i wish that guy would stop bastardizing music. the original song was a GREAT piece of music but man when senoue decides to start hacking away at it with his horrible YEAH GUITARS shit i cannot help but cry a little bit.
i don't know why they would call upon him of ALL PEOPLE to compose music for the game
Fuck yeah, looks like we might get Angel Island as a level.
oh well, i didnt know about the smash either (seriously why look at purposefully spoilertastic unofficial videos they ruin moments like this) so i am prettyh appy with that too
I hope they've got Liquid as a boss. That'd be fucking badass.Greatest idea ever.
Greatest idea ever.
Or maybe Metal Gear? Or even Ocelot.
Makes you think, doesn't it?
I've really enjoyed almost all of these recent updates. (By recent, I mean these past few weeks)
Awesome stuff.
Yeah, having fun is so overrated.
That Dragoon item does not seem like it's practical at all unless you're doing a really long time match, 10+ stock, or only a few items (including the Dragoon) at a high rate. I hate the direction Brawl seems to be going towards at times. Makes me want to cry.
great, the correct way to respond to an insulting +1 post is to make one yourself, ya
who cares what sarhan says, i think we've all learned in the last 14 pages (and the other 60 or whatever in the last topic) to just ignore him if he says something we disagree with!
I love when they announce another feature that tournament-only players don't get to use because it makes them more sour than usual, and I find that funny.
The way I think it should and will work is this: the first piece has as good a chance as any item to show up, but, once it is collected, the other pieces fall soon afterwards. So it wouldn't take a really long match as you presume. I think you should hold back those tears until you can actually see how all these ideas play out.
But Sarhan, the way you put it in your post, you make it sound as if the game is getting worse rather than better. Maybe if you're more specific about what direction you think the game is taking, people will understand you better.
rofl, he didnt even nearly say that, erave. he said he likes how when they release a non-tourney item, tourneys get angry about it. that's all.
geez why the fuck am i trying to talk to erave
rofl, he didnt even nearly say that, erave. he said he likes how when they release a non-tourney item, tourneys get angry about it. that's all.
geez why the fuck am i trying to talk to erave
Obviously, not EVERYONE is gonna like EVERYTHING. I mean, if this weren't an opinion based discussion I could understand why the same 3 people keep getting upset.
I've never heard of air ride, but the item seems like something out of power stone. It was great in powerstone, <spoiler?>but I don't like the looks of it in smash.</spoiler?>
EDIT: Whoops, Sarhan already referenced to power stone.
EDIT2: Who cares what Sarhan says.
smahs broooooooooswhat was this for?
super smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash broooossss
Although I'm better than the average player and can hold my own against tourney players, it doesn't automatically make me a tourney-only player (and assuming so is ignorant).What makes you assume that I was talking about you? How ironic that you talk about assumptions as being ignorant. :fogetnah:
In other words. Mateui shut the fuck up with your stupid "I play the game the right way" righteousness. Later.What... the... First of all Erave I never expected you to be the swearing angry type.. You must have really changed from before I suppose. Besides, I never once said anything to the effect of playing the game the right way, so I have no idea where you got that impression from. I know there was a no-item VS item debate in this topic before, but I didn't participate in it. In fact, I hold the view that every feature is good for somebody and everyone should try everything out to see if it suits them. I think it's highly foolish and stupid for certain people to ignore certain features altogether because of their held misconceptions and viewpoints. It's like somebody saying that they hate a certain food while in fact they have never even tasted it. Complaining about it makes it even worse because it makes them look like simpletons.
What makes you assume that I was talking about you? How ironic that you talk about assumptions as being ignorant. :fogetnah:
Okay, who were you talking about then? Everybody else seemed to like the item from what I recall. I was the only one that was "more sour than usual."People from other sites who complain about such things. I was making a jab at them, not at anyone particular in this topic since no one here professes to be a hardcore tourney player. Perhaps I should have been a little more specific so as to avoid a misunderstanding. I'll strive to do so in the future. Hopefully there are no hard feelings between us. :shrug: (I always thought that this emoticon was a "let's be friends and hug" instead of "dunno".. Must be just me! :P)
People from other sites who complain about such things. I was making a jab at them, not at anyone particular in this topic since no one here professes to be a hardcore tourney player. Perhaps I should have been a little more specific so as to avoid a misunderstanding. I'll strive to do so in the future. Hopefully there are no hard feelings between us. :shrug: (I always thought that this emoticon was a "let's be friends and hug" instead of "dunno".. Must be just me! :P)
Anyway, I just can't wait to get my hands on this game. I don't have a Wii yet so I'll only invest in one simply for this game. I think I asked this before but no one responded to it, but how likely do you think that they'll make a Wii + Smash Bros bundle, and when? At game release, or further down the road?
EDIT: Also, who here has a Wii and plans on getting Brawl? I'd like to get all of your codes I could add you and play against all of you. It'll be so much better playing against people you know instead of doing "with anyone." I'll be getting my copy at the midnight release. Anyone else?I have it so that it will be shipped to my house via Standard USPS Mail. And my friend code is in this (http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=1412.0) topic.
For myself, being an aussie, I've breathed wind that brawl won't be here until JULY 9!
;;_;;
I either want that confirmed or greatly reduced in delay.
I have it so that it will be shipped to my house via Standard USPS Mail. And my friend code is in this (http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=1412.0) topic.
Looking forward to playing you! :cool:
Oh nice. I didn't even know about that topic. Is Brawl going to be using a code of its own?Judging by the Friend List update, it seems that it is going to use separate friend codes. :mad:
A whole week without updates? Ouch.
We better get something good before the game comes out.
I dunno about you guys, but it looks to me like Sonic and Snake are going to be the only 3rd party characters.
smahs brooooooooos
super smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash broooossss
A whole week without updates? Ouch.Yea, megaman is pretty much a wash. But given Hudson's enthusiasm on the VC and their work with Nintendo on other projects (like Mario Party), I don't think we should discount an appearance by Bomberman or Master Higgins.
We better get something good before the game comes out.
I dunno about you guys, but it looks to me like Sonic and Snake are going to be the only 3rd party characters.
I can promise you that there is another third party playable character. But do not ask me how I know this.
I think we should lock this til they start announcing things again otherwise we will witness the breakdown of a smash bros fan
All seven languages of Smash Bros. Dojo will take a year-end holiday break from posting following December 28. We plan to resume posts on January 7.
Have a happy new year.
Pretty much what Cheesy said.
Also I have a hunch that we'll be seeingSimona big update at January 7. Kill me if I'm wrong.
Kill me if I'm wrong.Deathwish?
So wait... they left us with shitty updates for what, a month or more, and then plan to release the game on January 7 and THEN start with the updates. What, do they think we are going to keep ourselves spoilerfree and not check which characters are in the game?
January 7th...? It's coming out February 10th.
:fogetshrug::fogetnaughty:
i dont think any game devs should be allowed to say their own games are amazing
it just sounds so cheesy every time he says something like that :(
New info. I know two player wi-fi was semi-confirmed on the dojo (basically a 2-player co-op with two players playing online with one wii-http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi04.html) but here's a video actually confirming it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=y57J62IMnuA
Pretty good news IMO. A buddy of mine and I are going to the midnight release of Brawl and we're heading to my house to play until around 5 AM. The fact that they have 2 player wi-fi means I'll be able to try the online mode with my friend instead of one of us just sitting and watching.
God we're going to kick some ass.
I think I'm going to challenge you online if you don't mind. My roommate can be my teammate.
Fuck no I don't mind. I plan on challenging as many people here as I can just cuz "with anyone" is going to suck so hard. Plus I want to beat you all down (joke).
Are you getting it on the release day? I say we unlock all the characters first (by which time we should be used to the mechanics) and then have some nice 2 on 2's. Eh? Eh? (I'm excited in case you can't tell)
I'm down. I'll probably have at it around 12:00 am Feb 10th. We should have some GW tournaments if we could organize that.
Damn, I wish I lived in the U.S! I'm pre-ordering it from Play.com pretty soon (if it's EVER released over here in Euroupe!)
I assume you'll be able to play across continents etc? So me and my pals can join in in some Gw Brawl hijinks!!
If no one minds, I would like to fight some of you guys sometime. (Luckily I pre-ordered it in October)
A wifi match is the first thing my friends and I are going to do when we get the game, heh.
I'm really looking forward to playing you guys soon, though. Obviously plenty will be better than me (sarhan) but I love a challenge so! Just... Sarhan, you play no items, right? I play with items, and i'm not starting an argument or anything, but just bringing up the point that people will all have different preferences. I would much rather have items, while plenty of people think the opposite. Just something to consider, I guess?
Holy shit
It's Captain Olimar
Fuck maining Kid Icarus or Peach, I'm picking that guy up!
Holy shit, Captain Olimar are you serious?
...
...wow
Man I really wish I could check the Smash Bros site, but it is blocked out here in DESERTLAND. But I have gathered that a lot of Melee stages will be returning in Brawl? Would someone be a peach and list the ones which are confirmed to return? Corneria is one of my favorite stages, and probably the highest played stage out of the group I play with.
WOW. I can honestly say, I did not see this coming. I figured if he was in at all, he'd be an assist trophy (mainly due to issues of proportion). Well, he's not the size of a quarter anymore, so I'm definitely looking forward to playing as Olimar. This is incredible...
You could, but it might end up being laggy. We won't know until we try though, but I'm willing to give it a shot. I can be the guinea pig...opponent person.
Out of curiosity, when is the Euro Release set for?
If there's an opportunity to pick up a PAL disc before fucking July 9 I want to know about it.
Olimar should be a great addition to the characters. I bet one of his moves is plucking pikmin out of the ground. I can't wait to see what his move list is.
Goodness! Captain Olimar joins the fray with five colors of Pikmin in tow! He plucks Pikmin from the ground and they fight as his allies.
I don't think they've showed us yet in this game, Grogrod. In the first game they were dolls, then in the 2nd they were trophies. We don't know about this one yet (or I've forgotten at any rate).
In this world, trophies fight.
They know nothing but fighting. Fighting is the sole reason for their existence.
Being turned back into a trophy, being unable to fight, is much like death.
yes that was said already
I don't really understand how much he can really do, what could pikmin do in the game? I can't remember :(
Is he just going to be SMASH YOU WITH PIKMIN/PLUCK PIKMIN/???
Haha this is awesome.
Captain Olimar's one of those obscure characters that I wanted to be playable in the game but I expected he'd only be an assist trophy or something. I'm kinda wondering how the Pikmin plucking will work though.
In response to "The Great Debate": Marth rules!what debate?
In response to "The Great Debate": Marth rules! I love cleaving my friends and foes with a Bastard Sword (in case you didn't know, that's Marth's primary weapon) and using smashes to break Bowser's draconian skull. Nintendo would never remove Marth from the game because why? Nintendo knows what the fans like, and what do the fans like? You guessed it, Marth.
http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37686/vidiotgame.PNG
Put that in your siggy if you agree with everything I've just said. Nintendo knows better than to take Marth out of the Smash Brothers Dynasty (SBD). Marth lives ooooooooon *waves Marth flag*
Man I think the worst part about Snake's final smash is that it changes the camera to some terrible angle for EVERYONE. At least thats what the screenshots seem to show.
http://kotaku.com/343267/smash-bros-brawl-pushed-to-march
idk if this got posted (not on the last two pages) but the schadenfreude is exquisite for me.
Sarhan, I know there are notable differences between Ike and Marth, but... I'm not sure what they are. Ike is slower? And his Up/Down-B's are different?
http://kotaku.com/343267/smash-bros-brawl-pushed-to-marchTHIS BETTER NOT BE TRUE.
But don’t fret! It’s easier than it looks. Spend some time playing around with him. That’s key.
His recovery move kinda sucks though since you pretty much have to have all 6 Pikmin in order to get the maximum range out of it, which means being cautious about the way you fight. If you end up doing a sweet ass combo, using up all 6 Pikmin in the process, and then get knocked off, you could be screwed.
lol @ Walmart
I see it, I just bought it & I have a receipt for it but do I believe it? No.
Either this is a trick or that's the pre-order down payment. Oh well I needed to pre-order this game anyway before it's too late and there aren't any more left (I have a feeling that's gonna happen with this game).
EDIT: Heh they've changed it already (in fact it seems I got it right at the last minute). I wonder if this means I still get it for 20 bucks? Doesn't really matter though since I was gonna buy it anyway.
Oh well I needed to pre-order this game anyway before it's too late and there aren't any more left (I have a feeling that's gonna happen with this game).
lol @ Walmart
I see it, I just bought it & I have a receipt for it but do I believe it? No.
Either this is a trick or that's the pre-order down payment. Oh well I needed to pre-order this game anyway before it's too late and there aren't any more left (I have a feeling that's gonna happen with this game).
EDIT: Heh they've changed it already (in fact it seems I got it right at the last minute). I wonder if this means I still get it for 20 bucks? Doesn't really matter though since I was gonna buy it anyway.
Wonder what his final smash will be...?My guess would be he calls in 100 Pikmin, as that's the max number you're allowed to patrol around with in the games. That...would be beautiful...
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Super Smash Bros Brawl (Nintendo Wii)
Releases 31 Mar/08. Welcome to a brawl for the ages, where anything can happen, anyone can show up, and all bets are off!
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...So, March 31st, 2008 release date, eh? That sucks.
...Huh? Cell-shaded Link is a horrible idea, regardless of the rumors. We don't need another Link! Also, I think Joe fits perfectly with the atmosphere of Brawl, better than, say, Snake or something.
Viewtiful Joe won't make it, as cool as he'd be. One of the requirements was that the character must have appeared on a Nintendo title in some form or another, and Joe hasn't as far as I know.I'm fairly certain both Joe games original came out on GC.
My fingers are still crossed for Sheogorath.
EDIT: Simon, Richter, or Alucard? (Anything else and you wouldn't be allowed to call yourself a fan)
What if he replaced young Link?
Man Young Link is the same as Link pretty much. Different range, different up-B slightly, different B slightly, and a shorter grab! He won't be in Brawl. They seem to be replacing all the clones with original characters.
I'm fairly certain both Joe games original came out on GC.
Also i hate VJ and i hope with all my heart he is not in this game, espically since they already skipped over mega man(a capcom character that doesn't suck)
Also Nightmare, Sheik had been confirmed, I believe! Sarhan posted a link earlier to a translated Japanese magazine with the confirmation of Sheik being Zelda's down-B, as well as Snake and Sonic being secret characters.
Yeah I read that on Smash Boards but I want them to show us on the Dojo itself. "Wh-what is this?! Zelda is transforming!" "C-can it be?! Is it really Sheik?!" or something like that (I suck at doing Sakurai impressions).
Due to delays in the completion of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, we’ve had to change the release date of the game to Sunday, March 9th.
I deeply apologize to the people who have looked forward to playing the game for so long and ask that you hold on just a little longer. Thank you for your patience.
Fuck!
Quit bitching, you don't have to wait until July like some of us!
They're probably not delaying it so they can implement anything but bug fixes, otherwise why would we get a month delay while Japan only gets a week delay?
Ganondorf is confirmed.
Where? I knew Captain Falcon was, but wasn't sure about Ganondorf minus the one voice actor being listed on IMDB.
It lists all of Sheik's special moves, right? Well, it looks like they added that to everybody's character pages, so now you can see all the names of their moves even though Sakurai didn't show us all of them!
Famitsu gave 40/40? Has a fightning game ever recieved that score?
Also, I don't trust japanese magazines when Nintendo rule its country.
Pffs... then release the damn game, Nintendo!
Famitsu loves Nintendo and gives all of Nintendo's games good scores!!
famitsu is only good for certain things, but they are obviously biased on others
like they give all gundam games hella good scores
even that shitty release one for the PS3 got good scores and that game was TERRIBAD
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998, Nintendo, for Nintendo 64)
Soulcalibur (1999, Namco, for Dreamcast)
Vagrant Story (2000, Square Co., Ltd., for PlayStation)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2003, Nintendo for Nintendo GameCube)
Nintendogs (2005, Nintendo, for Nintendo DS)
Final Fantasy XII (2006, Square Enix, for PlayStation 2)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2008, Nintendo, for Wii
how the hell did WIND WAKER get a 40
Famitsu loves Nintendo and gives all of Nintendo's games good scores!!
famitsu is only good for certain things, but they are obviously biased on others
like they give all gundam games hella good scores
even that shitty release one for the PS3 got good scores and that game was TERRIBAD
Wind Waker was a damn good game (maybe not 40 good, but it's up there). I don't get how Nintendogs got a 40 though.
I don't get how Nintendogs got a 40 though.
New Commercial
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft86/
Some awesome Captain Olimar footage (including what I guess is his Final Smash) and Mario drop kicking people.
I don't know if there is a youtube rip yet.
it's probably a good game but yeah Famitsu no longer holds the "m...my god...the...reviews..." that it used to.
you're a bit late guy with a wild arms inspired name, we're talking about other things nowToo bad for me, I suppose.
New Commercial
http://wii.com/jp/movies/wii-cm-soft86/
Holy shit. This update had me in a panic until I read the very last sentence.
SAME HERE. Thank god this is only for adventure mode, otherwise this game would be RUINED.
Am I the only one who's completely missed the relevance of stickers to this game? IMO they'd be better represented as trading cards, or game cartridges or something in the collectible aspect, but as for this Subspace thing, I'd be much happier with equips or something.
Not that I'm complaining, but some parts of the game seem a bit overloaded. It's probly just because of the dojo.
SAME HERE. Thank god this is only for adventure mode, otherwise this game would be RUINED.
Am I the only one who's completely missed the relevance of stickers to this game? IMO they'd be better represented as trading cards, or game cartridges or something in the collectible aspect, but as for this Subspace thing, I'd be much happier with equips or something.
Not that I'm complaining, but some parts of the game seem a bit overloaded. It's probly just because of the dojo.
Wow, Brawl is turning into JUS.I thought about this too. Oh man, the similarities... The good thing though is that Brawl won't be as nearly as broken as JUS (imho lolz). JUS can get pretty messy with all of the supports running around.
Stickers = Help Koma
Assist Trophy = Support Koma
Or at least they seem to work very similar.
(Also yeah thank god its only for story mode)
Finally, remember that stickers are only of use within The Subspace Emissary. Sorry to say, but they’ll be of no use to you in standard brawls.SORRY TO SAY GUYS
what the hell is magic attack + 13
·some figures will appear as assist trophies if you gain them
· A boss in Submissary is from the fire emblem series. He does not fight but he summons monsters.
· Boss rush mode after clearing Submissary.
· You will need 240 hours to clear submissary with every character available.
· Bowser, Dedede and Wario also appear as bosses in the submissary mode.. they are beeing mind controlled
· If you have a save data of ssbm you will get special trophies, BGM etc.
· same with super mario galaxy and some other wii games
*still in corner after finding out Yoshi is a homosexual*
cool!
can't wait.
edit: for subspace
Huh? I don't follow...
Wow fuck you guys (but thanks for the spoiler tags!). I'm not reading that shit. I need to have some surprises left for me when I get my hands on this.
Sorry bro, but you might wanna think about not coming to this topic as the game gets closer. In a few days time this is just going to be one giant spoiler tag.No, I probably shouldn't come back seeing as I can't even control myself!
Also, the video has been replaced with a new one, where you cannot see the character portraits anymore.
It hasn't even been an hour since it was leaked yet..
Since I'm not a Zelda fan, this isn't that exciting of an update for me, and the move doesn't look all that powerful anyway.
Possible spoilers, so bewareHidden content (Click to reveal)I noticed that after the sticker part where you can see Ness, Lucario and Jigglypuff,
there is a sticker in reference to sonic. You might notice that it's only sonic that has
been put there, which I think rules out the possibility for Knuckles or Tails.
Other than that, you might see a Windwaker Link trophy. I'm not sure wether that
means he's in the game or not, but it didn't look like it was a character trophy.
Of course they aren't in. Putting in multiple characters from one third-party franchise would be a horrible idea when you can have other third parties in their place.
I have heard that Knuckles is going to be an AT though. Oh, and Krystal is in Brawl. But that's old news.
Krystal is not yet confirmed, nor is it a leak. There are some good
pointer of her inclusion indeed, aside from one of the few potential real leakers
on the smashboards, but there is nothings sure yet. Same goes for Luigi
The knuckles and Tails thingy was indeed to be expected, but there will be a lot
of fanboys left disappointed.
Also, I've been thinking. These screens and stickers are only available for characters
that can actually play in the Subspace Emissionary. Perhaps there are some characters
that can not be used and are only available as bosses.
There is also a small hope for the possibility that not all characters were unlocked when
the movie was made. It's a ridiculous idea in and of itself, but I still hope Mewtwo returns,
so bear with me.
Equipped Green Potion: +5 Alchemy
hahaha, who gives a shit about mewtwo??Wow, ignorant...Mewtwo, like Pichu, Mr. Game & Watch, and a handful of others, requires a little more practice to be good with. He was a unique character, and I rather enjoy playing as him. It's even more fun when I beat doubters who later say "What? You won with MEWTWO?!"
He was the worst and least fun character in the game. If you set him as a level 9 CPU opponent in Melee, he would self-KO on most stages more often than he got knocked off by any sort of effort on your part. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to seriously care for more than 5 seconds if Mewtwo is taken out.
hahaha, who gives a shit about mewtwo??
He was the worst and least fun character in the game. If you set him as a level 9 CPU opponent in Melee, he would self-KO on most stages more often than he got knocked off by any sort of effort on your part. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to seriously care for more than 5 seconds if Mewtwo is taken out.
To casual players Mewtwo is crap, just like to casual players Hugo is crap in 3s, and Tizoc is crap in MOTW....dude, do you even PLAY with any actual casual players? Because the ones I've played with loved Mewtwo because he's frickin' Mewtwo. Evillest and most notorious-for-being powerful of all Pokemon. They don't think in terms of combos and tiers, they think in terms of "I saw a movie with Mewtwo in it, and he made Pikachu cry!"
While yes, to pro players, they are still crap, you can still win tournaments with them, you just need to practice an assload more than you would with the other characters, and have to work harder to achieve the same things the better ones can do just that much easier.
Edit: and 9 times out of 10, casual players don't want to invest that time into practicing with a crap guy, so...
I want Mewtwo back because he was a character with an original moveset, and isn't "dark-link/mario/samus/pikachu."
I don't think all characters will be playable in subspace. I mean, you only get to play certain parts with certain characters right? So it's possible we won't even get to play as bowser or Wario. In that sense there might not be stickers for bowser, mewtwo, dedede, wario, ridley, etc...
At least I hope anyways, I really want Mewtwo back.
Well Dedede is supposed to be a bad guy in SSE yet there's a giant character specific sticker for him.
EDIT (SPOILERS AHEAD): 2ch seems to have gotten a hold of Brawl. It'll be only a few days until we know the complete roster.
The CD (not really a spoiler, so I didn't hide it).
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/brawl%20cd.jpg)
And then the starting roster:Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/brawl%20roster.jpg)
21 starters guys. This game will be huge.
n...no.....n...captain falcon by default?
:(
Changing the Subject slightly, how AWESOME is manaphy?Only marginally awesome, sorry.
Does this mean that Edward Elric is in this game?
Hidden content (Click to reveal)Since Jiggly and Ness have been "confirmed?". I think that they, along with Luigi and Capt. Falcon, will be unlockable just like in the first game. Also about the whole sticker thing at kotaku.com, The sticker that is selected is a pokemon, so why would only pokemon characters and Lucario be able to equip it? I think the Lucario face is indeed just the pokemon trainer. I am puzzled as to who the third character from the left is though (the dark one).
To be honest, I think these are really good fakes. I mean, if I somehow got brawl like this fellow i would post gameplay videos, the starting movie or something asweome like that!Yeah, and it certainly is suspicious how the video stops before any real gameplay occurs. We'll just have to wait and see. :(
Hopefully i'm wrong though
Earlier, h-how was Captain Falcon CONFIRMED?Well, in the Samurai Goroh update, you can see his symbol, so that might be a sign (also why would they announce Goroh as an assist first over Falcon. If Falcon would have been an assist, I'm sure he would have been announced before Goroh)
Just because there are trophies from C. Falcon's games, it doesn't mean he's a PLAYABLE CHARACTER!?
;_;
In reference to the character confirmation:
The second icon IS pokemon trainer. The third icon is Lucario. We know this because Lucario is the only pokemon besides it's pre-evolution to have that blue/black color scheme, and there's no way it's pre-evolution would even be considered.
So I'm guessing these stages were made with the stagebuilder. They look a little bland compared to Mario Bros.
The music is amazing, though not quite battle music.
The music in the first half of the commercial is badass. Hope they use it in a stage.
Watching the Homerun contest video, I hope they haven't fixed all the "bugs" from Melee like the Batdrop and stuff. The lack of wavedashing still pisses me off. :(I kind of like that it was removed.
Watching the Homerun contest video, I hope they haven't fixed all the "bugs" from Melee like the Batdrop and stuff. The lack of wavedashing still pisses me off. :(
That’s what Masterpieces is! Here you can relive the greatest battles of the biggest star characters through demo versions of their games.
There's never been an option to turn off or on the specific pokemon, but now with the inclusion of assist trophies as well, hopefully there will be one!Spoilers! (Click to reveal)Also, Sarhan, there's an Earthbound picture too.
EDIT: Marth confirmed. Fuck yes! In last night's update, if you look at the Japanese page, you'll see this picture:I wouldn't jump so quick to that conclusion. I don't think they would put Ike's game, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, in as a demo. Same thing goes for Pikmin. They are most likely sticking to anything Nintendo 64 or under (basically, anything you can find on Virtual Console).Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/ssbb%20marth%20confirmed.jpg)
It's Fire Emblem 3 and it basically confirms Marth, since they're letting us play demos of the games the characters come from. At the same time however, Falco disconfirmed?
I wouldn't jump so quick to that conclusion. I don't think they would put Ike's game, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, in as a demo. Same thing goes for Pikmin. They are most likely sticking to anything Nintendo 64 or under (basically, anything you can find on Virtual Console).
I wouldn't jump so quick to that conclusion. I don't think they would put Ike's game, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, in as a demo. Same thing goes for Pikmin. They are most likely sticking to anything Nintendo 64 or under (basically, anything you can find on Virtual Console).
They could use Mother 3, which is a GBA title, and would therefore be easy to port.
I look forward to the F-Zero X demo. (even though I already have the game)
Since that's where most of the F-Zero characters showed up, and were best represented. (Given I'm expecting Black Shadow to show up, but that's just me)
Anyhow,
I happened to come across these demo match videos on shoryuken forums (I snoop around there often heh)
Apparently stores in Japan have a demo, perhaps we might get one sometime?
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=CYmNmm-bNns - Ikki(DDD) vs Masashi(Ike)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=GsauAh98gS4 - Ikki(DDD) vs Masashi(Ike) 2
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQgkiTWSv8 - Ikki(DDD) vs Masashi(Ike) 3
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=4eWl-DCrjwU - Ikki(DDD) vs Masashi(Ike) 4
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=DeBHzWM3Erg - Ikki(DDD) vs Masashi(Ike) 5
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=KzQfkwdnXDo - Masashi(Ike) vs T2 (Kirby)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYQTuHCKQs - Ikki(Kirby) vs T2(Kirby)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=eWWQ3CAYRr4 - Kein(Koopa) vs Ikki(DeDeDe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCnbQFG0PHc - PT vs Link.
Damn DeDeDe's chain grab is crazy. He looks much better than what I expected. (Plus at first I didn't knew really how his Final Smash would work, but now I do, and its pretty neat!)
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/57278/4689cb8f6b1c8ca15026e549bd19e9c6c054c0c8.gif)
i also like to make fun of tournament players being able to make a non-tournament worthy game into one
it makes me feel like such a better person
theres a difference between camping which is insanely boring for everyone involved and using the game's items for their intended purpose.not really. both gets you the same result at one point or another, you'll win or lose by using or not using them. remember when i got 2nd place in GW Soldat because everyone thought camping was gay and couldn't deal with it? i even got belross (who was considered one of the best on gw at the time) something like 24-14, and i had played Soldat at the most for around 40 hours tops in cumulative time. the fact that it started a HEATED FLAME WAR about the use of such tactic is worthless, what counts is that BJB and myself won by camping and abusing glitches in the game and the others lost.
just saying way to take a funny image entirely too personally for your game about nintendos punching each other.it's not about using the items for their intended purpose actually.
so basically, look at it this way. you're playing a game, any game, and you're winning. now out of nowhere, something appears in front of you and kills you without any input from the other player, making you lose the lead or the entire match. wouldn't that piss you off? and out of necessity, wouldn't you want that fixed or removed?
sounds like complaining about crits in TF2.I've never played Team Fortress 2 but I guess you're talking about critical hits? These are pretty different in the sense that such things are massively (more or less) distributed equally among the players, and randomness is predictable in that it equals out in the end if only you iterate it often enough. It's for this reason that the slightly random attack damage in Warcraft III doesn't matter either, for example.
I though we agreed to disagree on the items thing like 20 pages ago.
A picture like that, funny though it may be, obviously isn't going to do anything but start arguments.
ps who gives a shit it was funny and I thought it would be very funny if I posted it and anyone who feels like seriously discussing how they made a game about nintendos into a serious argument about the ethos of gaming has no sense of humor.You Are Right.
edit: seriously, you're saying that stuff like this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WowKCUQX4v4) is 1: not fun 2: not good just because OH GOD NO ITEMS AND ONLY 20 OUT OF 25 STAGES ARE ALLOWED?
Double post!?
Anyways, anybody have this pre-ordered yet?
I usually have stages on random, and unless I'm testing something or want to play with a specific character, I do random character selection as well.I'm the same way. I like keeping all the features of the game open, but I also understand why some prefer the tourny rules. I'll admit, it's kinda ridiculous taking a video game seriously, but that doesn't stop people from doing it. Competitive play has its own appeals that differ from those of casual play, and part of what makes Smash Bros. so great is that it can easily accomodate both styles, and everything inbetween.
So, can we stop this argument here? This is how the last thread got locked... :fogetshrug:
So, can we stop this argument here? This is how the last thread got locked... :fogetshrug:I wasn't around when this got locked the last time, but topics usually get locked because people are incapable of properly discussing something with one another, not so much because of the topic itself.
Whether you choose to go solo or play with friends' date=' you’re covered, because Brawl is about playing the way you want to play.[/quote']
3. Though it may have been a mistake, Sakurai mentions that players can record entire matches as well as bonuses like Break the Targets to send to friends. When first announced I think it was something like, up to 3 minutes could be recorded and saved, so unless that has changed maybe it was a slip up of sorts.
(from Iwata Asks - Part 3: Super Smash Bros. Spectator)
Anyways, anybody have this pre-ordered yet?Sure have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3joidDfOItY (DDD vs. Link)Awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcfHffiC_zs (Pokemon Trainer vs. Pikachu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZMSXpy2a4 (Pokemon Trainer vs. Mario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVz1GTra02M (DDD vs. Ike)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag7uOvCvWWY (Pokemon Trainer vs. Bowser)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xRiSUx_f5M (Pokemon Trainer vs. Ike)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57xqDFlOrM (DDD vs. Pikachu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=728BnDcgnx4 (SSE vid. Sheik footage)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzpmFLy3P-0 (SSE vid. Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong)
First, they knew about it in SSB64 (although it was an accident) and decided to include it in Meele on purpose (but made it reduce lag by half instead of completely removing it like in SSB64).
I'm pretty fucking positive I READ IT IN THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL and l-cancelling isnt as much of an advanced technique as you people think it is.
So you're wrong, whether they knew about it or not, it's still an advanced technique.
I didn't say it wasn't an advanced technique at all, but whenever people act like it's this big secret thin that only HARDCORE GAMER'S know it makes them look pretty stupid.
Well, the latest update kills that theory as it reconfirms the 3 minute limit. Although it mentions that regular brawls, home run contests, target smash and multiman brawls are all compatible with the record/replay mode.By the way, that CIVILIZATIO"N" thing in your sig is really, really, really, really, really clever.
Spoiler, Despain.
Anyway, I think that DK saving Diddy depends on who you chose to be, DK or Diddy. Maybe if you chose DK, Diddy would get shot instead?
Spoiler, Despain.
Spoilers.My god that is epic!!Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/Marth.jpg)
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/Ness.jpg)
Intro Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8
Fuck yes.
My god that is epic!!
Yet...I feel sad...
Oh well at least Olimar is shown!
AND NESS
Spoilers.Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/Marth.jpg)
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/Ness.jpg)
Intro Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRBsajRrnY8
Fuck yes.
Man, it's cool they have Green Hill Zone, but
WHERE THE FUCK IS FALCON
Sad? How come?
Someone should just add "SPOILERS" to the topic title and be done with it.No they shouldn't, stop being an idiot.
Guessing from what is being said at Brawl Central, Marth had to be unlocked.Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/Marth2.jpg)
Possible starting roster. Taken from the same source as the vid posted above. Shows all the characters in the vid, no more and no less, which could very well mean this is the starting roster.
EDIT: I was wrong. Excludes Ness.
Guessing from what is being said at Brawl Central, Marth had to be unlocked.
Damn, the leaks are coming in quickly, apparently Luigi was now confirmed.
^
From the looks of it yes, which is pretty interesting. Whoever is doing this got to work quickly!
I don't think I will be able to sleep tonight, heh.
OH man!Hidden content (Click to reveal)F-Zero Stage:
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/fzero.PNG)
they are claiming that characters like professor egadd, megaman, midna and other crazy characters are in it, which i think is pretty bullshit.
I also doubt Megaman, but I don't think it has anything to do with the copyrights. It would be easy as cake to keep a character like that secret, and it would definitely make unlocking it a lot more fun.
Enjoy Capt. Strife.Oh I most definitely enjoyed that, thanks. :^DHidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/cfalcon.JPG)
Supposedly copyrights are added as characters are unlocked so if that's true, then he still has a chance.
Sarhan you should've been running the dojo.
So is Marth a clone? He looks pretty much like Ike as far as I can tell. If clones are in this game I'm gonna be bummed.
Btw, I'm cancelling my preorder if it turns out R.O.B. is a pc in this game. Marth's video scares me a little in that regard.
New Character: GanondorfIt's beautiful. That's the best anything, in my opinion.Hidden content (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50675/ganon.jpg)
Bomberman confirmed?!
Sarhan is on top of these things. I bow to you, good sir.
Whoa it's probably been only like a day since I last visited this topic & now I come back & there's all this awesome information which I have to take in all at once, wow I'm feeling light-headed...
EDIT: Hmm I s'pose Despain's link confirms that you DO play as R.O.B..
Sadly enough, it probably isn't.
Also don't forget mewtwo...
Meaning only one possible new one...
He isn't, but neither is jigglypuff to my knowledge0
No megaman...? My hopes and dreams are crushed.
DONT OPEN THIS SPOILERS LOL (Click to reveal)(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a347/givequicheachance/1201623754739.jpg)
YEAHHHHHHH, well that just leaves Wolf.
I'm really keeping my fingers crossed for something really crazy like Pacman. :gwa:That would be really awesome. I'd still prefer Megaman, Captain N, or Master Higgins, or Simon Belmont
Well, I really hope that Wolf isn't the final character to be revealed because I think that Fox and Falco are enough for that franchise. I mean, there's only so much variance that you can include for those kinds of characters. I'm really keeping my fingers crossed for something really crazy like Pacman. :gwa:
I saw a screen somewhere
You mean the post directly above your own?
how is a character a fucking SPOILER?
hay guyz this is a nintendo product i bet you 100 ducatz there'll be nintendo characters!
oops, spoiler.
Well, I really hope that Wolf isn't the final character to be revealed because I think that Fox and Falco are enough for that franchise. I mean, there's only so much variance that you can include for those kinds of characters. I'm really keeping my fingers crossed for something really crazy like Pacman. :gwa:Didn't someone say something about Krystal being in this awhile ago?
do you know how super smash brothers works
Yeah, Nintendo generates massive hype on a Legion level and slowly trickles out worthless bullshit that gets all the fanboys panties in a jumble and OH GOD THIS CHARACTER WHO I DEFINITELY KNOW WILL PROBABLY BE A CHARACTER ACTUALLY IS A CHARACTER!11!!11
I'm gonna start hitting the report button every time someone mentions something about a video game that isn't "lol officially mentioned" on the box art or official page. If you so much as even tell me that sephiroth will be in the next kingdom hearts (even though everyone knows he will be because square is predictable like every other retarded developer) then I will spam hit the report button and bitch and whine because you spoiled the game for me.
And yes, by telling me sephiroth is in the game you spoiled the game for me. it's not official. it's a spoiler.
oh shut the fuck up are you serious?well that isnt a good example but the one marcus spoiled (which was pretty much the only one i managed to avoid seeing up until now thanks) is a smash brothers newcomer so it kind of sucks yeah.
sephiroth is not an UNLOCKABLE CHARACTER and he was in the previous games so that's not a spoiler at all. you know maybe some people want to come into this topic and talk about super smash brothers without knowing that ganondorf is in it because maybe they want to find that out for themselves???
granted handing out warns for not putting something in spoilers is kinda silly although i'll bet they were just verbal warns in which case i take that back so in conclusion my point is that characters are spoilers ok.
sephiroth is not an UNLOCKABLE CHARACTER and he was in the previous games so that's not a spoiler at all. you know maybe some people want to come into this topic and talk about super smash brothers without knowing that ganondorf is in it because maybe they want to find that out for themselves???
Then what's the point of having a topic DISCUSSING a game when all discussion leads to something that you don't want to find out?do you read at all, man? you're free to discuss the official released info freely, and you're free to discuss leaked info in spoilers
This topic is completely self destructive. If I didn't want to find out what this game was or how it was played or who appears in it then I wouldn't click on it in the first place. It's not like I'm revealing plot important information but oh hey i hear sonic is in this game because chili dogs are one of the new items and famitsu revealed a translated final smash that is a romanized version of sonic spindash attack oh god i hope Lucas's mom appears in this game by the way did you know she died in the first chapter of mother 3?
Then what's the point of having a topic DISCUSSING a game when all discussion leads to something that you don't want to find out?
This topic is completely self destructive. If I didn't want to find out what this game was or how it was played or who appears in it then I wouldn't click on it in the first place. It's not like I'm revealing plot important information but oh hey i hear sonic is in this game because chili dogs are one of the new items and famitsu revealed a translated final smash that is a romanized version of sonic spindash attack oh god i hope Lucas's mom appears in this game by the way did you know she died in the first chapter of mother 3?
You know what, don't bother. No point in even coming into this topic since all future posts will either be "spoiler" or "this is epic can't wait."ok good
If you look at that screen Mateui posted, you can see that characters that are related are in columns together. DK is above Diddy, Kirby is in the same column as Metaknight and Dedede, etc. However Lucario is not in the same row as the other pokemon characters, instead he is below Falco. Adding another Starfox character below Falco would bump Lucario over below Trainer, Ness over Lucas, Bowser below Mario, Luigi, and Peach, Toon Link below Ganondorf, and ROB below the other NES characters.
I don't care at all about Wolf (I didn't even know who he was when he was mentioned, even though I played Starfox 64 a lot), but he would fit perfectly on the screen.
metroid is getting fucked how the hell can games like STAR FOX have more characters than metroid
I'm really keeping my fingers crossed for something really crazy like Pacman. :gwa:Same here for Pacman.
Well that does it. I'm going tomorrow to cancel my preorder.
I have to say, I'm really disappointed with this game, and how much time I spent looking into it.
This isn't nintendo allstars, it's starfox+mario+kirby+pokemon adventure. +r.o.b.lol.
God damn it. I really hope there turns out to be more characters. I'm not excited for any of these things except maybe sonic.
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Same here for Pacman.
I also look forward to Black Shadow showing up. One more from F-Zero series would be nice.
Also so many leaks, I think I'm losing my mind with all this info!
(Also ROB!? holy crap that was a surprise)
This is all the characters.Really!?
I can't believe people are crying that "nintendo X" character didn't get in. I thought the whole reason people loved smash bros is because it's actually a well balanced fightan gaym. 3 dozen characters kinda makes things hard to balance. I already hated the whole TIER discussion with Melee... now it's going to be twice as bad with Brawl.
man, most people don't even consider SSBM a fighting game, which is just sad, most people play it at a casual level and don't even know/care that tiers exist
I don't get it. Melee was exactly the same, only more clones. Now, characters with newOk I do see what you mean though.
movesets (even though I haven't seen falco and wolf in action), more
original characters, a brilliant lineup from nintendo's most popular francises, and all i see
people bitch about is how Isaac and Geno probably aren't in it.
I'm not disappointed at all. I really frickin' love this roster.
yes it is very sad indeed that people play the game just for the fun of it
My guess would be they dreamed up different moves for these supposed clones. There's enough variance in Link's inventory to accomodate two different versions of him, so WW Link is probably (and hopefully) completely different. And, I don't know anything about ROB. What...was he?
My guess would be they dreamed up different moves for these supposed clones. There's enough variance in Link's inventory to accomodate two different versions of him, so WW Link is probably (and hopefully) completely different. And, I don't know anything about ROB. What...was he?Here you go:
Fuck it.What's not worth it? These character leaks? Could someone possibly tell me if there are good/bad/awkward inclusions? I don't want specifics, just maybe a generalization. Will some characters knock my socks off? Are there any weird ones that you wouldn't have expected?
Not worth it.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my head is fucking EXPLODING.
OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
So I don't get warned, I hope these guys aren't clones! I hate clones. Also; any guesses on how ROB will work? Or WW Link?
it's been pretty confirmed that falco is a clone since he shares a smash with the other nintendo character of that series.no you have to hold out until the european release :)
also these spoilers are actually getting irritating as shit and since the game came out in Japan already I don't see why we are still using them.
do we get to stop the second it rolls over to what, US release date?
What's not worth it? These character leaks? Could someone possibly tell me if there are good/bad/awkward inclusions? I don't want specifics, just maybe a generalization. Will some characters knock my socks off? Are there any weird ones that you wouldn't have expected?
What's not worth it? These character leaks? Could someone possibly tell me if there are good/bad/awkward inclusions? I don't want specifics, just maybe a generalization. Will some characters knock my socks off? Are there any weird ones that you wouldn't have expected?
To elaborate more; none of the new characters are surprising. If you sit down and think to yourself for about 5 minutes and say 'what would nintendo include to please the fans and make things fun' i guarantee you will narrow down a list almost instantly.
I'm fairly certain that ROB and Wolf surprised everyone.ROB yes but not Wolf
there's been so much leaked info, eeeek~! it's hard to keep up with it all... that's why i need brawl central >_<
but uh yeah can spoilers be dropped? i got tired of wading through the topic rolling over like almost every word (lulz)no.
no.
What's not worth it? These character leaks? Could someone possibly tell me if there are good/bad/awkward inclusions? I don't want specifics, just maybe a generalization. Will some characters knock my socks off? Are there any weird ones that you wouldn't have expected?
Why are people who don't even like the game/system butting in and giving us advice about how shit should be done here?
Speaking of which, I want EVERYONE IN THIS TOPIC to play as Lucas as much as you can. Maybe Nintendo will finally get it through their fat skulls that people actually want a localized version of mother 3. God, I hate Nintendo.
Are they going to put both Krystal and Wolf in the game. If they do wouldn't that be too many star fox characters?Well I don't know where everyone is getting the whole Wolf thing from.
Ugh... Toon Link and Ganondorf seem to be clones... At least, Toon Link has pretty good noticeable differences from Young Link / TP Link, like overall speed of attacks and stuff like that. Ganon's got the same up-B and A moves, but... We can't see much from that video. Knowing this, though, I guess Falco is probably a half-clone of Fox. I think Krystal would've made a much better original character.Yeah this seems about right.
hahaha man go figure
MORE CLONE FIGHTERS YES!!
I'm contemplating ordering the moonspeak version so I can learn all the secrets, master the moves, then beat you fags when the english version comes out.
Does anyone know if the Wii is region free? If it is, I'm ordering this game tomorrow.
Does anyone know if the Wii is region free? If it is, I'm ordering this game tomorrow.
I can't believe the final ending fight for campaign is against DR. Robotnik. That's pretty dumb seriously.this is totally not bullshit i believe it 100%
And I guess I'm looking forward to the shadow stages the most, at least it's better than shadow characters!
No way man. I don't know who this Lucas is, but I hate him. He looks like such a little weiner.
When is Smash Bros 4 coming out?It isn't. The next installment is Smash Bros Vs. Archie Comics. Has tag team features.
It is people like you who keep Nintendo from localizing good games. It is people like you who fuel my rage against Nintendo. It is people like you who make me cry when I sleep at night. They better not have made him a clone of Ness, otherwise.... RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!
seriously steel, do you have to do this in every topics where people actually wait for shit?
like, don't you have SOMETHING to do with your time other than OH HEY LOOK I LIKE TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHO ANTICIPATE THINGS THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED INTO.
i guess i'll go to robert jordan's offices and post an essay on the virtuosity of the wheel of time to emulate you now, it'll make me such a cool kid!
edit: i understand fanboys and shit are annoying but you don't have to come in EVERY GODDAMN TOPIC about them and try to be funny or something because that's seriously fucking ridiculous. you're about as mature as they are if that's your entire DRIVE in coming to the vg forums man.
have you checked how many times i posted in this topic? like probably 3 at most, all in response to your trolling attempts.
it's not the game i'm defending, it's not about OH NO DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY GAME, it's that you do this bullshit in EVERY GODDAMN VG TOPIC EVER. if someone is waiting for a game then you make fun of him.
seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? do you have something against people who are eager to play or try new things because their life is probably as bleak and shitty as yours? why the fuck do you actually care what people think about a game and care so much about their shitty opinion so much that you're willing to go out of your way to make fun of them? do you get sexual gratification out of this or what because it seriously boggles my mind that you would go to such lengths just to make fun of people.
also no they're not funny maybe they are if you're a complete mental retard but i guess making fun of people for waiting on something must be some sort of HIGHER INTELLECTUAL HUMOR i cannot hope to comprehend because mayyyyyyyyybeeeeee i'm shit????????
hey wait i'll go make fun of scientists that are hoping that someone gets an answer to unify quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity, they're waiting on something too!
:words:
seriously steel, do you have to do this in every topics where people actually wait for shit?
like, don't you have SOMETHING to do with your time other than OH HEY LOOK I LIKE TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHO ANTICIPATE THINGS THAT THEY ARE INTERESTED INTO.
i guess i'll go to robert jordan's offices and post an essay on the virtuosity of the wheel of time to emulate you now, it'll make me such a cool kid!
edit: i understand fanboys and shit are annoying but you don't have to come in EVERY GODDAMN TOPIC about them and try to be funny or something because that's seriously fucking ridiculous. you're about as mature as they are if that's your entire DRIVE in coming to the vg forums man.
You pretty much have to learn to overlook most of Steel's posts. He's just a bored kid with too much time on his hands.
HOLY FUCKING SHITSeriously, you're getting worse than El Nerdo.
this is hilarious as fuck :fogetlaugh: :fogetlaugh: :fogetlaugh:
man you guys need to lighten up, i like smash as much as the next guy but it was obviously just a joke..lighten up...jesus.
steels too lazy to type that up for a video game.
well i guess the message wasn't clear??
because i thought you wrote/made that shit yourself at first until you mentionned it was from SA.
i'm sorry not everyone goes to somethingawful and find their shit funny!
also it's not the jokes that piss me off about you but more your blatant trolling on every topics that are like this. you did it in the SF4 topic, the bionic commando topic and i don't know what else but i'm pretty sure you did it in well over a dozen topics in total and every time you ruined the topic because of your self-righteous bullshit (HEY GUYS ITS NOT OK TO TALK ABOUT SEX WHEN LIKING SOMETHING IM SORRY BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE ELOQUENCE AND USE WORDS LIKE FLABBERGASTED INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU HAVE MASSIVE BONERS).
and yeah i'm sorry if i'm a pussy and i don't like making fun of people who aren't complete social retards like inri cheetos who are usually just joke accounts anyway. i guess i have some form of moral decency??
You pretty much have to learn to overlook most of Steel's posts. He's just a bored kid with too much time on his hands.
There is something that I would like to call Skull Kid Syndrome. Skull Kid Syndrome is the term I use to describe a character whose best chances for getting into a Smash Bros. game as a playable character failed, and for the following game have less popularity and a lesser chance of getting in due to being a one-shot character.
I would use Roy more and more and would learn how to utilize all of his moves. Pretty soon, I mained him along with Samus. However, Roy’s influence on me did not stop there, Roy also made me get interested in the Fire Emblem series. Once I picked up a Fire Emblem game for the first time, I instantly fell in love with it. Fire Emblem would later become one of my favorite series ever. If it had not been for Roy, I probably would have never have picked up a Fire Emblem game, as well as many other people. I understand that Roy’s purpose was mainly as an advertisement, however, he holds a special place in my heart for getting me into what is arguably one of Nintendo’s best series.
I have long contemplated whether to leave SmashBoards after the reveal of the roster. Since both Ridley and Roy did not make it, there is no board really for me. However, I might decide to stick around for two things. One would be that there are a lot of friends that I have made on SmashBoards and I think they might be disappointed if I left. Two, I feel as though I failed the Knights of Elibe (a Roy fan group here on SmashBoards) due to Roy no longer being a playable character (though this was really out of my control, I do feel a guilt that I did not do enough to change people’s opinion on Roy even though I am the leader of the organization).
Six years was a long time. I went through a lot of hell between these six years, and I sure most of you have as well.
I know he didn't type it up and I understand that it was meant to be a joke. I'm not "offended" by his posts, but I hate how he comes into every topic and tries to derail it. Because of that, I've learned to overlook most of his posts.
The fact that he also goes out and purposely looks for this kind of shit is also sad. Why waste your time bashing something that doesn't affect you in any way at all?
I know he didn't type it up and I understand that it was meant to be a joke. I'm not "offended" by his posts, but I hate how he comes into every topic and tries to derail it.
The fact that he also goes out and purposely looks for this kind of shit is also sad. Why waste your time bashing something that doesn't affect you in any way at all?
Seriously, you're getting worse than El Nerdo.
Video of a new character:Hidden content (Click to reveal)Wolf Wi-Fi Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6uRcUADi8)
AWEsome...AWEsome to the max. :fogetbackflip:
Though I wasn't too particularly fond in using the characters from that specific franchise in Smash much at all ever since the N64 game. But it's "him" - so yeah, exceptions shall be made. :P
^^^spoiler (Click to reveal)Is anybody actually seriously dissapointed with this roster list? I mean, really, think about all the new characters added? I mean it's pretty awesome, although it did feel slightly dissapointing at first, simply because I've come to expect half the new comers, like Pokemon Trainer, Wario and Dedede. They've been announced for a while now, so they feel like nothing new, when they actually are.
^^^
its more because all the big characters were spoiled at the very first day...if you had just been spoiled that Meta Knight, Pit, Snake, and Sonic were in, how would you feel about the roster right now?
actually this video reminded me that the names are different and there is a lot of characters in this game now (compared to SSB/SSBM) who have different names cross country. I am assuming its region specific online though (like you'll see Jigglypuff on your screen, but a JPN guy sees Purin, etc, on the results screen and what not).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LckvnqXmujc
I hav eno idea if this was posted but this is so hilarious
TIME SLOWDOWN FOR NO REASON, THROW A FUCKING PRESENT.
I didn't even think about that, although it makes sense. How many characters have names that are so different region to region though?
@ groggrog
Unfortunately, it does seem that Wolf is a modified Fox based on the info I've been reading/seeing on Neogaf. His Final Smash is the Landmaster with a different color scheme and his blaster is more powerful and the laser is altered among other things.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9537982&postcount=4207
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9539900&postcount=4355
Also Luigi's final smash XDD
He just pulled a Dio Brando!
It doesn't happen very often that I can't tell what's going on in a fighting game. But this one is kind of hard to follow at times.
I had a horrible, horrible theory:
What if ROB is just a character for Japan. If you think about it, he's better known there. So, why wouldn't they replace him with a better known character for the other countries?
It might make sense...
I had a horrible, horrible theory:
What if ROB is just a character for Japan. If you think about it, he's better known there. So, why wouldn't they replace him with a better known character for the other countries?
It might make sense...
Because the versions of the games have to be the same so they can play against each other online.I didn't think about that one. Tousche'
Why would ROB be more popular in Japan.I thought ROB was only in Japan.
there was only 2 supported games for him in both countries...also its a fighting game...so no.
I didn't think about that one. Tousche'
I thought ROB was only in Japan.
My mistake.
Nintendo... What happened?
I agree, it can be rather confusing sometimes, but only rarely, especially if you get 2 super fast guys i just lose track of whats happening.
The best thing to do is play a game with ONLY pokeballs and set the frequency to max.
There was one game in melee where every legendary pokemon was on the playing field and the game's frame rate instantly dropped to like... 5 frames a second.
God... I've yet to watch all the vids, (thanks a ton guys!) but I really am disappointed. Falco was totally unnecessary as a clone, and now there's WOLF? And Ganondorf better not be a clone of Falcon. Also, Ness! ARGH. I understand putting everyone's favorite character in, but at least give them a good moveset or something! I don't care about Lucario, because he replaced Mewtwo, so that's fine. But... Damn. This game is still awesome and all, but they should've realized no one likes new character models with old moves tacked on. Especially because there are SO MANY AWESOME CHARACTERS that could replace these clones. K. Rool, Krystal (I don't especially like HER, but she's got an energy-shooting staff, which would make for a very original moveset), etc etc. Damn damn damn.
The best thing to do is play a game with ONLY pokeballs and set the frequency to max.
There was one game in melee where every legendary pokemon was on the playing field and the game's frame rate instantly dropped to like... 5 frames a second.
ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOO
ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOO
whats zss ??
I wish Brawl central came back i got to know if wolf or krystal or whomever the last character is, wasnt there supposed to be 3 3rd parties? Snake, Sonic , ???
Well, I'm not that upset anymore! Falco and Wolf both have some different A moves, stats, and each has AT LEAST one different B move! Cool. Still clone-like, but better than exact replicas. Ness and Lucas probably have extremely similar B moves, but their normal attacks and smashes seem pretty different. Hopefully they'll at least have different B's / side-B's. (Remember, Lucas's doesn't move down, but straight.) Ganondorf is slower, and might not actually be a clone at all. And, finally, Toon Link is pretty different. I just don't like that Toon Link and I guess Ganondorf look so different. Everyone is beautifully animated and polished, and then there are two cel-shaded characters. Just kind of messes up the balance, I think. I do think Krystal would have been better, but... Eh. I knew all along, obviously, that Zamus would be playable without a FS from the begining, but I was hoping that you could select her from the screen as you could Zelda or Sheik or any of the PT's pokemon. Maybe it's at the end of Samus' color changes and no one has checked yet...? I guess that'd be unrealistic, though. I wonder what the button is for when you're not using the Gamecube controller.
EDIT: Goddamnit DN put a hide tag on that! I didn't want to know the entire roster, ugh.
ZSS CAN BE PLAYED BY HOLDING R WOOOOOThank goodness! I've wanted confirmation on this since like, forever.
Why are people hiding Zero Suit Samus in spoilers? Uh...she's not one!
I'll be sticking with the Gamecube controller for Brawl. It's just what I'm most used to, though I may try the other control styles just to see what they're like. I even went out of my way to track down a bunch of extra Gamecube controllers in case mine start crapping out on me (since they're out of production and all).
her being selectable whenever isn't on the main site, so its a spoiler.
they still should have TRIED to eliminate clones because its a really dumb concept
isnt akuma pretty much the same too? but like slower and with purple fireballs and able to throw fireballs from the sky?
Why do they have Fox AND Falco AND Wolf but keep all the awesome characters like Saki and Little Mac as fucking Assist Trophies.
MAJOR DISAPPOINT
lololol spoilerssssss.
But seriously, this topic hasn't dropped the spoiler bullshit yet? Smash Dojo is basically leaking information about the game, slowly. Why not just not come here until the game is out in the USA or just find out all the information. Is there anybody here who hasn't looked at the final roster?
It would be so much better with Krystal. She would probably be a fast character. She would hit people with a cane. She would shoot stuff out of the cane. It would be completely different. Playing with fox is basically playing with falco and wolf.
I guess I'm a little pissed that I got my wii with this game in mind, and basically got screwed. I mean, I understand how irrational it is to buy a console for one specific game, but I was totally down for every minute of it until the last 3 or 4 characters were revealed.Wait, you say that the game is ruined for you because there are some clone characters. So... if those clone characters weren't in the game, this game would be so awesome?
Ain't that a bitch.
So do you guys think the Japanese updates will be different from the other languages?
Also, I can't understand why they would basically get rid of 3 clones, and add 3 new ones. The original moveset was the only good thing about Ness, and they went and fucked it up by adding a clone.
Also, 2 clones of Fox?! WTF! I'm positive NOBODY is that die hard of a Starfox fan that they'd want 2 clones of him.
I guess I'm a little pissed that I got my wii with this game in mind, and basically got screwed. I mean, I understand how irrational it is to buy a console for one specific game, but I was totally down for every minute of it until the last 3 or 4 characters were revealed.
Ain't that a bitch.
The final roster has probably been revealed. But what makes us 100% sure it is the final roster?
Also, would it be possible that Nintendo might add downloadable characters later?
Are all the character unlocked in the subspace emissary?
isnt akuma pretty much the same too? but like slower and with purple fireballs and able to throw fireballs from the sky?
Ganondorf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNl0PljSB8&feature=user
Real-life mature SSBBW. Come visit me at my adult website.Super-sized Big Beautiful Women....GAH!
www.ssbbwforyou.com
You guys clicked the link? Scary.Yeah, if you would have visited any 1 of the last 2 (idk probably way more) pages you would have seen that.
Anywho, isn't this game released in Japan now? Do we know the full roster yet?
i want to see
Toon Link, game and watch, lucario, Jigglypuff, olimar, and luigi's FS's are
ps: is Luigi a mario clone ?? and will he have a Waluigi Suit?
Anywho, isn't this game released in Japan now? Do we know the full roster yet?
Due to certain circumstances which will prevent me from actually buying or playing SSBB with my friends at the American release, and because I am rabidly anticipating this game (and because I am a little crazy) I have decided to import Brawl and a Japanese Wii. I should have it by the end of next week, and then I can enjoy a full month of illicit SSBB-playing with my pals. Eat me, noobs!
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What happens if you can't play the U.S. players with your Japanese copy of the game? You won't be able to play us.I really don't have any desire to play SSBB in Japanese for the rest of eternity, forever. Once I get back from my trip in April, I'll buy an American copy and sell the Japanese Wii and game.
Ganondorf:What happened to 'no more clones?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cNl0PljSB8&feature=user
Me, too. Although I'm concerned about the amount of space for Brawl friend codes. My friends and family come first, but I'd really love to be in a tourny with everyone else.
Another pretty big concern of mine is online play. Can you set up specific things like stock matches? If it's always 2:00 timed matched, that would really suck. Anyone know about this?
I don't know about you guys, but I am looking forward to an Official GW Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tournament. Who is going to take the task of setting it up upon themselves?
I would be mad down for a gw tournament so long as there are no dumb rules like NO ITEMS
also maybe i am thinking way too far ahead, but it would be pretty boss if we could get someone with a TV capture device to record each match from spectator mode and put the videos up on stage6 for everyone to watch when it's over.
Unless spectator mode is completely random, in which case fuck me, I guess!
hey guys, guess when SSBB will (probably/hopefully) get to Australia
JUNE
damn it to hell
January 31st, 2008. Super Smash Bros. Brawl has officially gone on sale in Japan. Is everybody having fun with it?
However, Smash won’t come out in North America for a bit and sadly, Europe has an even longer wait until the game releases.
For the past eight months or so, Smash Dojo has served as a source of basic information for the game, but with the release of Brawl, the Dojo will take on a new role.
From here on out, the Dojo will begin to introduce the hidden characters, hidden stages, and additional features in Brawl that have gone unmentioned until now. I’d like to continue to add on to the Dojo so that players of Brawl can come back to this website following it’s completion and view Smash Dojo as a sort of guide for the game.
I plan on continuing updates for another two months, so please continue to enjoy the site.
Just remember, I’ll be posting information on hidden characters and other in-game secrets, so you should take caution when viewing the site if you want to save those surprises for later.
Ness has already been released and his moves are quite different than Lucas'
Can't wait to see the detailed info on The others we know little about.
Wow, it's really hard to guess what the name is under that spoiler. Gee, thanks for spoiling this for me. :(
But I mean really, I don't think anybody cares about having the roster revealed
Wow, it's really hard to guess what the name is under that spoiler. Gee, thanks for spoiling this for me. :(
hey guys, guess when SSBB will (probably/hopefully) get to Australia
JUNE
damn it to hell
Plenty of people (and even you apparently) don't want the roster to be spoiled for them.
Question: How many people live in the U.S. and plan on getting Brawl shortly after release? It'd be nice to know so we can figure out when to plan the tourney.I would love to participate in a GW Brawl tournament.
Everybody's final smash:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2HU_AJbx10Q&feature=user
Mario Bros. Stage:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L3A1JWGcX-k
I would love to participate in a GW Brawl tournament.
(Also I live in the US and I reserved the game so I guess I might be getting it when it comes out)
Awesome Final Smash vid.
Finally a clear video with Capt. Falcon's Final Smash, Blue FALCON!
Also Punch Out and Excitebike music in the Mario stage, too awesome!
Plenty of people (and even you apparently) don't want the roster to be spoiled for them.
I think it should be with items as well, at least for the first tourney for the majority.
Why are you doing sign ups now? You should do it closer to the time of the tournament, and in its own topic.
Also, is it possible to play online with two people on onewii?
Classic DK Stage:Wow that stage is awesome, I like how their using classic games as stages (aka mario bros. 1-1 and this)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sW9AywYprtY
I'll play.
Also, CorporateGreed, where'd you hear that from? If it was from someone's earlier video they posted, it might just be because the person showing the FS's was not that great and didn't show off all the aspects of each one.
So Sarhan maybe you have seen this but maybe not:
Meta Knight vs Bowser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYIffOx5z8
WARNING: HAS SPOILERS ON CERTAIN CHARACTERS OMGyeah uh, i don't see what's wrong about that. the box explodes yeah but it doesn't spawn on any character randomly now. so far there's been no account of it happening to anyone, so items might become tournament standard for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgETqV7lD0
3:20
exploding boxes.
fuck.
this is easily th ebest fanart of the game other than chefshahahahah
this is easily th ebest fanart of the game other than chefshahahahaha thats so awesome
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I'm in for the GW tourney I guess. I don't know how well I'd do though. I'm not a competitive fighter (too intense a metagame for me)... let alone a regular to ssb games (even though I have the first two)~
I'm in for the GW tourney I guess. I don't know how well I'd do though. I'm not a competitive fighter (too intense a metagame for me)... let alone a regular to ssb games (even though I have the first two)~
Wait, is this going to be a tournament with all items turned off and only
playing on on final destination?
Wait, is this going to be a tournament with all items turned off and only
playing on on final destination?
You guys seem to think tournament players are dumb or something.
No AT's, No Starman, No Hammer, No Pokeball, no exploding crates, no to like all % healing items, yes to all other items pretty much, yes to Smashballs (as of now), and no stages with wacky corners/super random elements.
And probably 2 stock cause the game is much slower than Melee.
so, after playing a bit with my friends, i see the tiers are gonna change a little. Marth became much better, he feels a little awkward at first because his dashdance patterns changed and he lost his ground controlling moves, but he makes up with crazy damage and better ways to get someone off the stage AND he kept his regular f-tilt.
also Lucario is really good. i'm thinking somewhere along the lines of Peach good. he can play a deadly keepaway game and he has some really good mixup tools. and he can stick to walls for wall shenanigans when edge guarding. he's like what would happen if mewtwo didn't absolutely suck.
Fox feels weaker and Falco too, they seem to have lost the ability to shffl but they can do some other stuff better. crazy mixups from a throw or when the guy starts shielding. maybe they're still top but different, i don't know. i'd say high for fox and top for falco because falco feels just that much more solid but maybe i'm wrong.
modded wiis are so good.
Are you sure smoke balls aren't too broken? I... I don't even think I would be able to play if I couldn't visually pinpoint the optimal animation frame to perform a waveland with jigglypuff.
Wait, is this going to be a tournament with all items turned off and only
playing on on final destination?
Good to hear impressions from a GW member and for that I hate you (jealous). Marth was always top tier though (4th if I'm not mistaken) and I really didn't think he'd be going even higher from what I've heard so far. His recovery was nerfed (can only do one side-B for horizontal distance), his range was shortened, and he runs a bit slower (granted most characters do). He wasn't affected by the floatiness that much though since he was a floaty character to begin with. I thought dash dancing was useless in Brawl? All the vids I've seen so far show that it's much harder to pull off consistently. Glad Marth still has his F-air and tipper though. He may end up being my main again.Well, I meant Marth feels like he's definite top tier material, not that he wasn't before (tho it's kind of arguable because Fox/Falco are the real tops and everyone else is upper and high-mid but the line is blurry enough to mix them up a lot). Dashdancing's far from useless, it just feels different and the patterns for attacking in and out of it are definitely not the same.
Lucario does look beastly though. How does Wolf compare to Fox and Falco? Is he better? Worse? He seems really good from the vids I've seen so far.
Oh, and are you planning on joining the GW tourney?
Good to know Fox is still awesome, and Falco too I guess. I like how Wolf is looking. Any more similarities/differences between the three? Fox and Falco, especially?Fox and Falco play pretty similar to their SSBM counterpart, with a few differences due to the speed change and their lost tools (shffl, waveshielding and such), but to the casual gamer they'll feel the same. Wolf would seem the most different from a casual point of view because of his gimped shield, different laser and slower but stronger nature.
Also, yeah, I could tell Lucario was good. He's pretty strong, it seems, and his moves looked nice. What's his Down-B?
And Marth is a lot faster, attack speed wise, right?
Care to describe whether Cpt. Falcon is the same or not? Besides Pikachu, he was the only melee character I used, and Pikachu is way too embarassing to be good with.I don't know, I'm not a Falcon player at all and none of my friends play him, so I really can't say anything on that.
Care to describe whether Cpt. Falcon is the same or not? Besides Pikachu, he was the only melee character I used, and Pikachu is way too embarassing to be good with.
PS. I think I'll wait for a tourny-rules GW tournament. I'm just not very good with items, personal preference, don't flame me, blah blah blah...
Pshh. Do both. Who cares if you aren't good with items? It's just for fun and it'll be the first GW tourney.
As for Meta Knight, I though he had a hard time finishing people off even though he could combo them easily. He does look top tier though and I'm glad since I was planning on playing him from the first vid I saw.
Lucario's down B is a counter attack. He dashes past the enemy and whacks them from the back. Looks really cool.
Captain Falcon is still one of the better characters. His knee got a nice nerf though, but then again, a lot of characters got their best attacks nerfed. He's still really quick and really good.
VID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igpjjxDqSHc
i found a fuckin wii tonight. So fuckin happy.
Sign me up for this tourney and what not, i will be ready to pwn noobs!
Did I hear that Zelda's Forward Air kick got beefed?! If so, $$.
Hey Raziel, what modchip is your friend using? I've heard that some modchips won't work with certain games.Wiikey.
to anybody who knows a lot about all this shit: how does link stack up to the rest of the characters? is he really good or really bad or in the middle or what 'cause i always kick ass with him and i want to know if that's because i'm FUCKING AWESOME or if it's because he's just an easy character to use or some shitSince I'm bored and I got nothing else to do, here are the current tier list for the US-released games:
i'm going to guess that he's in the middle because his attacks are pretty strong but he has a slow recovery time. of course this is based on the original super smash bros. since i haven't played ssbm in a long time so i don't remember very well how good he is in that one
but yeah im fucking awesome with link i always always always beat my friends go me
Top tier: Pikachu, Kirby, Ness
High tier: Fox, Captain Falcon
Middle tier: Jigglypuff, Mario, Yoshi
Low tier: Donkey Kong, Luigi
Bottom tier: Samus, Link
Top tier: Fox, Falco
High tier: Sheik, Marth, Peach
Middle tier: Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Samus, Doctor Mario, Mario, Jigglypuff, Ganondorf
Low tier: Link, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Roy, Young Link, Pikachu
Bottom tier: Yoshi, Zelda, Game and Watch, Ness, Bowser, Kirby, Pichu, Mewtwo
I'm pretty new to Wiis... so can someone tell me how to get it working on my wifi network?
Well I want to be in the tournament but my paticipation depends on if I can figure out a way to get a high speed connection working at home before March. I live like 20 miles from any other human being so as you can imagine a DSL/cable connection isn't an option.
I might be able to just play it from work though.
Link in SSB64 isn't the shit at all. He's just shit. Dude is a punching bag when it comes to combos and has slow movement/attack speed topped off with terrible recovery. I main Link in Melee and he is A LOT better. He's located pretty much right in the middle of the tier list, whereas in SSB64 he is ranked dead last.
Might as well try it out with your normal connection. Back when I had 56k, I could play some games with no lag at all and that may end up being the case for you. Give it a shot with your normal connection when you get Brawl and see how bad it is.Holy shit I didn't even know this was possible!
Since I'm bored and I got nothing else to do, here are the current tier list for the US-released games:
So yeah, Link is generally considered pretty shit in both games (and rather strangely, is ranked #12 in SSB64 and #13 in SSBM). And no, it's not that you guys kick ass with him, it's that your friends most likely suck huge ass and can't do anything properly, especially in SSB64 where if he gets hit once by any of the top tiers he's probably going to die a quick and painful death.
If it's there, I can find it. I just wanted to know if I needed something extra to connect to the internet and play online (like an account or a peripheral).
I hated the Up + B move for Link, so many players used it, and I personally found it a cheap move... and Marth... don't get me started I bet half the reason people like Marth because he can use his smash attack more faster then all the other characters.
Umm. I didn't know Lucario had the same B move as Mewtwo Wonder what else they have in common.
Every character's taunts:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSxR3ebOzc&eurl=
I just read online (pardon me if it has been posted already), but apparently the reason a Capcom character (ie Mega Man) wasn't considered for Brawl is because Nintendo is still peeved at Capcom for taking the exclusivity of RE4 away from them.
Sarhan or anyone have any links to videos of people actually playing like they want to win in SSBB? Right now all the multiplayer gameplay videos I've seen has some pretty, umm, less than good players or people just screwing around.These accounts have some very good 1 on 1 matches. (FAR better than those terrible free for all COMPUTER matches :/)
I am still hoping to see [Heavily Armored] Pokey making an appearance as the boss of New Pork City seeing as how it is HIS city afterall. I will be very disappointed if he doesn't make the cut... especially if characters like Ridley did.
EDIT2: I can't remember if it's been said before, but is L Cancelling, like, automatic now? The downtime after WW Links' Down+A seems very short.
So I take it that L Canceling is an animation/ move/ recovery/ recoil cancel? If so... I'm glad I didn't play Smash Brothers that much.... because a change like that would have been a game breaker for me.
http://uk.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=WifiWarsVideos
That AT (Helirin) used to be just and ordinary trophy in Melee. One of my friends today said that girl in the drill is from a game coming out soon, but I don't remember which one. Shameless plug, perhaps?
Kirby:Awesome.
I do not play kirby, and don't want to. I encourage others to give me feedback. I'll take it into consideration, and maybe play him down the line. Sorry Kirby fans.
Rating: ?/10
Awesome.
Mainly I'm sad because of the comment they made about Falcon slowing down to make room for Sonic. Pretty gay.
Oh well, I guess there's always Lucario and Olimar if he's unusable.
Hey guys who realy know about this stuff, I got a couple of questions:Tiers are agreed on by various things, tournament performance, the characters' general matchups (done by comparing matches in a fixed environment (Final Destination, 1v1, no items, 4 stocks, 6 minutes limit)) and the theory surrounding said characters. It's a pretty involved process and most tier lists in most games are not to be taken lightly because they're usually right. Tier lists mostly show what tournament results will end up like usually, but it's not always set in stone (such as Wobbles winning EVO East with Ice Climbers). It doesn't mean low tiers are dreadful and that you should never use them, it just means that in a tournament environment, you have less chances of winning against people of a similar skill level to yourself that are using higher tiered characters. It's all statistics and you can sometimes beat the odds, but it's the exception rather than the rule.
With the tier system, how is that worked out? What things are taken into consideration when ranking the characters? According to the lists posted on the previous page, I've always gone with low-tier characters. Not that this bothers me at all, I'm just curious. And are these tiers intentionally made, or is it just the result of players studying the characters a lot.
Second, all this wavedashing and l-cancelling and dash-dancing junk. Is it intentionally put in the game, or is it stuff that players have found and now exploit in the game.
I'm just kind of curious about these things. Thanks.
ALSO:
Marth looks like a girl.
From the uk.youtube brawlers videos, I'd say Pit is looking pretty good. Very fast attacks, multiple jumps, and versatile long range (you can shoot straight up, and curve the arrows flight pattern),
Holy crap, that's an insane recovery! How many jumps does he have, like 6? And a recovery that equals like 6 more jumps.
It looks like MetaKnight would have similar problems in a tournament environment since he would have a hard time KOing someone without items or a teammate.
Holy shit. Found something even more THERE IS NO FUCKING E IN RIDICULOUS. Watch 0:55-1:02 and 1:06-1:15 (sorry for the music).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAlsVTK89g&feature=related
Also, that Meta Knight player is damn good. Easily the best so far. Light is supposedly the best Pit also.
You based that off of what exactly? :hmm:
The people that are saying that MetaKnight is great at causing damage but not so great at delivering KO attacks.
It's important to note that tiers seem to be created in the "tournament environment" - Final Destination, no items (correct me if I'm wrong). But this tournament environment unbalances the characters. For example, I often played as Pikachu in melee who has a great advantage with items and platform jumping. But in the tournament environment, his weaknesses are emphasized while his advantages can't be used. It looks like MetaKnight would have similar problems in a tournament environment since he would have a hard time KOing someone without items or a teammate.Actually, it's the other way around. Items had a random element that cannot be defined and gives an unfair and unexpected advantage to anyone who happens to be closer to them when they spawn. It doesn't matter if your character can KO with items or get to platforms faster, fact of the matter is that those characters still can't get a clean KO by themselves.
Also you have to realize that any character who is higher tiered will be even stronger with access to items.
Oh, I don't know about that. I don't think items always just scale things up equally. I think some characters are definitely better with items. And some characters are much better only with CERTAIN items. And some characters are better at retrieving items.
Well the thing about SSB is that it was not made to be a straight up fighting 1v1 kind of a game. I can understand turning items off or limiting them, but people should really play on different stages then just flat in tournaments.
Yes, some characters are better at retrieving items...but some characters I don't think are inherently better with items. Items act the same no matter who uses them.
Well, for example, Sheik throws two stars with the Star Rod. More people have multiple stars in Brawl, now, but not every character. If that's not an advantage with the Star Rod, I don't know what is!
Ugh... It was an example of how items don't act the same with each character. Some people have faster bat swings, other people's lightsabers extend longer, etc etc.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3UTpaKhElhk&feature=bz303youtube comments are the best.
Super situational infinite.
youtube comments are the best.
THIS IS A CHEAT.
GAAAAY.
SHOULD GET PATCHED.
yeah.well not only that, it's extremely situational. from what i can see, you have to be positioned properly, to have the right percentage, hope the guy misses BOTH his DI and his tech attempts and that he doesn't pop high enough after your smash that he wall bounces or has a chance to air recover.
i'd agree if you had no chance to escape, if only because it'd be the only thing of its kind and SUPER IMBA the game
well not only that, it's extremely situational. from what i can see, you have to be positioned properly, to have the right percentage, hope the guy misses BOTH his DI and his tech attempts and that he doesn't pop high enough after your smash that he wall bounces or has a chance to air recover.
so it's like, a 1 in a 1000 chance to be used in a stage that has a wall, and in SSBB there's like 5 of those.
What exactly does DI and tech mean?Di is basically holding left or right really fast when falling so that your character moves away from harm's way, and teching is is to tap L or R as soon as you hit a wall or the grond to get up instantly or roll away.
...That said, there is one character who has a rather unusual method by which they can distinguish friend from foe...
I don't actually like how you can switch between Zero Suit and Varia Samus anytime you want. Honestly, I'd rather not have another Sheik/PT-like character. I just hope most people will select their favorite from the starting menu.
The movie was cool; I'd already seen it though. What intrigues me the most is the last line of the update.
youtube comments are the best.I liked the Related Videos even better:
THIS IS A CHEAT.
GAAAAY.
SHOULD GET PATCHED.
teching is is to tap L or R as soon as you hit a wall or the grond to get up instantly or roll away.I never knew this even had a name.
You'll get use to the control scheme and it will be even more fun. I personally use X to jump instead of Up, because you have more control over your character, and don't have to worry about pressing the B button too late and jumping instead of doing Up+B.
2： Quickly input taunts ↑↓↑.
What’s this? ...So you can shed your armor anytime you want?!
Thing is, you’re going to have to put that command in pretty darn fast in order for it to work. If you’ve set your taunts to the +Control Pad on your controller, you’ll eventually input the command correctly if you rapidly hammer up and down on the +Control Pad.
Maybe you should reread it... It's pretty clear!
You can change into ZSS by inputting the taunts up, down and up very fast. It's not really misleading.
Also, DN... What?
Maybe you should reread it... It's pretty clear!
You can change into ZSS by inputting the taunts up, down and up very fast. It's not really misleading.
Also, DN... What?
he's saying you can't go from ZSS to armored samus, though
It’s not easy, but how awesome is it that you can make Samus coolly switch between two completely different fighting forms! Try it out next time you feel like showing off
I thought that if you chose to start the stage with ZSS, then she was spawned with the Armor next to her?
I thought that with the taunts, ZSS could pick up the pieces of her armor and put them back together, becoming normal Samus again.
I thought that with the taunts, ZSS could pick up the pieces of her armor and put them back together, becoming normal Samus again.
What’s this? ...So you can shed your armor anytime you want?!
Thing is, you’re going to have to put that command in pretty darn fast in order for it to work. If you’ve set your taunts to the +Control Pad on your controller, you’ll eventually input the command correctly if you rapidly hammer up and down on the +Control Pad.
It’s not easy, but how awesome is it that you can make Samus coolly switch between two completely different fighting forms! Try it out next time you feel like showing off.
-DOJO
Is this what you are thinking of?Where the hell does it say that on the dojo?
It’s not easy, but how awesome is it that you can make Samus coolly switch between two completely different fighting forms! Try it out next time you feel like showing off.
Are you sure? The update sounded like it suggested you could do this anytime...
It may not be a one-way trip...does anybody have a video confirmation of it?
Haha...so they've found a ghetto way to waveland in Brawl. Doesn't go as far as it did in Melee and the distance seems to be the same for each character, but it could still be used for spacing. Definitely doesn't look as useful as the WL in Melee, but it works:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxHhy6JJJE
I'm sorry, I just can't see how that could benefit anyone in a match?
Advance techs are cool and all, and if they make you better then sure, but I think people are getting a little obsessive trying to find glitches.
Haha...so they've found a ghetto way to waveland in Brawl. Doesn't go as far as it did in Melee and the distance seems to be the same for each character, but it could still be used for spacing. Definitely doesn't look as useful as the WL in Melee, but it works:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VmxHhy6JJJE
ahahahahah, they actually want people to call this fucking "the craqwalk". yeah right!Actually he's short hopping, then airdodges at the very last moment in order to slide on the ground with the dodge's momentum. Edit: Looks like he HAS to turn around too otherwise it doesn't do anything. That's kinda weird. Gonna have to try that when DMC4 isn't kicking my ass.
Also I'm not really sure what's going on in that video?? It looks to me like he's just jumping forwards, landing, turning around, and then sliding with the momentum. If that's all it is, then I don't understand how this constitutes anything beyond BASIC MOVEMENT.
Actually he's short hopping, then airdodges at the very last moment in order to slide on the ground with the dodge's momentum. Edit: Looks like he HAS to turn around too otherwise it doesn't do anything. That's kinda weird. Gonna have to try that when DMC4 isn't kicking my ass.
Also Smash players can be retards sometimes and ever since someone named Wobbles's tactics as "wobbling" they try to name everything after themselves.
Isn't this pretty much just a waveland done slightly differently?
Also, I suggest we use #capcom for matchmaking for tournaments. It's already dedicated to fighting games and there's a lot of us who are serious Smash players in there.
Plus, dedicated channels always die. Look at the DS wifi channel or FFXI or WoW channels, all dead. #capcom is more general and there's no point in creating a smash only room when it's just another fighting game (albeit an excellent one) in an ocean of fighting games.
My local gamestop is getting a midnight release and also a tournament of sorts. Anybody know if your local game retailer is doing anything like this?
Smash was made by Nintendo, last I checked. Not Capcom?the channel has like, nothing to do with Capcom actually, the most played games are SNK's Garou and King of Fighters '98, as well as Ecole-Soft's Melty Blood. The ONLY Capcom game we still play is Third Strike, and that's a very rare occurance.
I think it would just feel weird for people like me start joining your Capcom subcommunity when I have no interest at all in those games. Maybe it's time to rename it to something more universal?
the channel has like, nothing to do with Capcom actually, the most played games are SNK's Garou and King of Fighters '98, as well as Ecole-Soft's Melty Blood. The ONLY Capcom game we still play is Third Strike, and that's a very rare occurance.
we tried changing name (to #netplay), it didn't work out even tho that was even MORE universal. no one joined and the channel died out, whereas #capcom still thrives because it's a subcommunity that doesn't pay attention to a general aspect of gaming but an entire subgenre (eg: fighting games). #wifi died fast as well, whereas we even setup wifi matches for Bleach DS on the channel and even set up some 360 matches for Fatal Fury Special, SF2HF and Virtua Fighter 5 (and most likely Soul Calibur 4, SF2HDR and SF4 when they'll be out).
so it's just a logical thing imho. why make a channel that'll die out in less than a month (this WILL happen, even if it's a very popular game) when a channel dedicated to matchmaking of an ENTIRE GENRE is already there. who cares about the name really? Capcom is iconic of being all about fighting games, it's just there for the sake of getting the uneducated to say "hey capcom, sf2 was cool, i'll check it out" and the guy who even visits these forums a bit should know that the channel isn't just about Capcom from the dozens of tournaments and general info topics that were posted.
Megaman isnt a fighter, and neither is mr.driller or tron-bonne or many of capcoms games :/gj at reading
why not make a #fighter ? or something with a more focal name to it.
Megaman isnt a fighter, and neither is mr.driller or tron-bonne or many of capcoms games :/
why not make a #fighter ? or something with a more focal name to it.
My local gamestop is getting a midnight release and also a tournament of sorts. Anybody know if your local game retailer is doing anything like this?
Uh, not very? That is HIGHLY ILLEGAL, buddy!
Is the netplay board not enough for setting up a Smash tourny?
Of course I don't plan on playing with GW everyday or anything, but if irc is required I'll be at least a little bummed.
we tried changing name (to #netplay), it didn't work out even tho that was even MORE universal. no one joined and the channel died out
Can't you make the #capcom channel redirect?
I mean personally it's not that big of a deal--I already just added #capcom to my autojoin. But I was thinking in terms of getting new people, especially with Brawl being as big as we all know it's going to be. If people are looking for Brawl players, #capcom wouldn't be the first place they'd look and it might turn them off.
Really? People do it all the time. That's how all the Japanese info was leaked days before January 31st. I imagine all of the gamestop employees will have access to it as soon as they get the shipments in.
I've got a friend who used to work at gamestop. I'll just ask him.
The only thing I found even mildly interesting that I hadn't really read up on before was the thing that they've called "Ukemi"
Yeah, today;'s Dojo update was a serious unexpected treat. I didn't think that they would post these sort of things, especially how he made the comment on L-canceling.teching and l-cancelling have nothing to do with each other. teching is to press L when about to bounce on a wall/ground/ceiling in order to negate the bouncing effect, whereas L-cancelling is to press the shield button when you're about to hit the ground but still in an aerial normal attack animation in order to negate the lag (hence l-cancelling, it cancels Lag). L-cancelling was an oversight of the first SSB64 engine where it completely eliminated the landing animation, was "officially" added to SSBM as in it wasn't acknowledged but it was known by the developpers as it only reduced the landing lag by half, and was completely removed and "automated" in brawl.
I don't check it any more for new information, but I check it out of habit just because Sakurai's captions on the images are usually cute, like something a five-year-old would say about them.
That's teching, the early form of L-canceling, which has been in since the original.
also stale move negation is the most stupid thing ever. you SERIOUSLY suck if you have any sort of trouble getting past projectile spamming in a game where it's so easy to dodge shit. it's like adding SUPER PARRIES to SF3's parry system that would negate JUMPING IN or something stupid like that. god i hate how casual gamers dictate some system direction decisions in games like this sometimes.
god i hate how casual gamers dictate some system direction decisions in games like this sometimes.Uh you mean how like 95% of the player base determines system direction? If we were talking about Street Fighter or some other shit you might have a point, but this is Super Smash Bros. Besides, I really think it is less about pandering to "casual gamers" and more about making the game more fun to play overall. People who spam moves (projectile or otherwise) are generally pretty lame and simply not fun to play with. It is extremely boring and repetitive, and having someone use the same move over and over and over again is highly annoying.
Doesn't SSBM have stale negation as well or am I just making it up? I swear the more you keep using Jiggly's pound the weaker it gets, same with Ice Climbers' Ice Shot, and I'm sure there are a whole bunch of other attacks that get weaker the more you use them. :hmm:Yeah it does, it isn't really new, he's just confirming its existence I guess. I don't know if it was in SSB though since I never really played it.
teching and l-cancelling have nothing to do with each other. teching is to press L when about to bounce on a wall/ground/ceiling in order to negate the bouncing effect, whereas L-cancelling is to press the shield button when you're about to hit the ground but still in an aerial normal attack animation in order to negate the lag (hence l-cancelling, it cancels Lag). L-cancelling was an oversight of the first SSB64 engine where it completely eliminated the landing animation, was "officially" added to SSBM as in it wasn't acknowledged but it was known by the developpers as it only reduced the landing lag by half, and was completely removed and "automated" in brawl.
god i hate how casual gamers dictate some system direction decisions in games like this sometimes.
Heh heh heh! Stale Move Negation? It's about time they added something to discourage move spammers! It's part of today's update, for those who don't check anymore.
Anyway, Belross... Can you shed some light on the WiFi play modes? Is With Anyone really only 2-minute matches?I can't figure out the Wii menus enough to set up a wireless connection. As it is, it just gives me some kind of error when I select the Wi-Fi menu, so I can't even set up a match to see what kind of options there are.
Samus's Missle Canceller is crazy. I would forfit if I knew that my opponent could do that. The Missle Cancel is when Samus fires a missle and L Cancels so she can fire another one, its best used on stages with platforms close to the ground like Dream World and Battlefield so you can fire a missle, drop down, L Cancel, fire a missle, jump up fire a missle, etc. I could never pull it off well, but I got the hang of her Super Wavedash.
I can't figure out the Wii menus enough to set up a wireless connection. As it is, it just gives me some kind of error when I select the Wi-Fi menu, so I can't even set up a match to see what kind of options there are.
Not being familiar with SSB games just yet.... can you explain the implications of an infinite jump like the one you linked us to?
The snake recovery thing isn't a glitch at all, he can use his upb after taking any damage.
And the infinite jump think is probably just mobility, you can't use it if theres no ground underneath bowser so...
So I heard that Cloud Strife from FFVII will be a character unlockable through DLC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
I keep on hearing people talking about missile canceling not being in this game, and I hadn't really heard of it til now, youtube searched it, and came across this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0fnlfw_dH_g
So I heard that Cloud Strife from FFVII will be a character unlockable through DLC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Funny. There's a slim chance of DLC for Brawl.
Sarhan, I'd like to hear why you think DLC is unlikely in Brawl since you probably know the most about it. I'm not aware of all the reasoning behind it.
I keep on hearing people talking about missile canceling not being in this game, and I hadn't really heard of it til now, youtube searched it, and came across this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0fnlfw_dH_g
reading the last page of this topic has reminded me...I know how you feel. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of smash brothers, but I think there's a certain point at which one should draw the line. All these advanced techniques and cutting things down to fractions of seconds timing...it's just too over the top for me. Maybe it's more interesting to other people, but I think it's ridiculous to take something simple so far out.
i once read about "advanced techniques" on the ssb wiki like the canceling ones you are talking about and then i realized...
i don't really want to be that good at a videogame
Pretty nice update, knowing that the stage builder has additional parts to build with. Although, as a downside, Yoshi is still the worst character in any fighting game ever.
Sarhah, could we get that video? Sounds like an interesting new mechanic for Falcon.
Pretty nice update, knowing that the stage builder has additional parts to build with. Although, as a downside, Yoshi is still the worst character in any fighting game ever.
Sarhah, could we get that video? Sounds like an interesting new mechanic for Falcon.
reading the last page of this topic has reminded me...
i once read about "advanced techniques" on the ssb wiki like the canceling ones you are talking about and then i realized...
i don't really want to be that good at a videogame
I am like that in a way. Though I did learn to wavedash, I never really learned to integrate it into my playing style.
Even Dan is better that.
Well, seems like Luigi's Final smash is in fact pretty powerful.Yeah, it doesn't seem so bad now that I understand what it does. It'd still be nicer if, y'know, it had something to do with him being Luigi rather than a bad mushroom trip he had once.
Yeah, it doesn't seem so bad now that I understand what it does. It'd still be nicer if, y'know, it had something to do with him being Luigi rather than a bad mushroom trip he had once.
And they didn't do anything with the Poltergust, either. I sometimes wonder just how far they're willing to push their creativity.
They found a pretty cool new technique in Brawl. You can change your direction in midair with B moves. You used to be able to do it in Melee but only with a few characters. In Brawl you can do it with anyone plus you have much more control over your momentum. To do it, you have to be in the air facing one direction, use your B move, and quickly tap the control stick in the opposite direction.
Here's the vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHX8BkXYCI
It seems silly to hold a tournament for a game that hasn't been played yet. :S
I know there hasn't been much activity on this topic in a while, but I thought I should post this:Man, not a SINGLE ND location. It would be fun to show up and own everyone and have them exclaim "MAN WTF HOW ARE YOU SO GOOD WITH R.O.B. ALREADY."
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/default.asp
Apparently Gamestop will be hosting midnight Smash Bros Brawl tournaments. (I know this was mentioned before, but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed)
They have a list of the stores that will be having this.
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/SSB-Brawl-Tourney-Stores.pdf
I know I will attempt to give a shot at this.
I know there hasn't been much activity on this topic in a while, but I thought I should post this:
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/default.asp
Apparently Gamestop will be hosting midnight Smash Bros Brawl tournaments. (I know this was mentioned before, but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed)
They have a list of the stores that will be having this.
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ssbb/tournament/SSB-Brawl-Tourney-Stores.pdf
I know I will attempt to give a shot at this.
Not all tournaments have to be SUPER COOL OFFICIAL MAD SKILLS dude, a tournament by definition is just a group of players playing in some type of match up setting (round-robin, etc.) for a "place" or "prize."
And it has been played, lol Japan, lol modded Wiis + imports.
Understandable, I'm not try to steel here, I'm just saying it seems a little odd. I preordered mine, and I'll be there for the midnight release, but I probly won't stay for a tournament.
p.s. people who imported the game going to the tourny is mad gay. I'd be pissed if I lost cause some guy has the japanese version and has been training for a month.
Anybody know if wave-dashing is still possible? And wtf is Lucario?
How can you be certain on no to wavedashing?
Have you played Brawl? All you need to wavedash is be able to
press the shield button while slaming on a diagonal down direction
and jumping at the same time. Is there no secondary jump button?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUMWXpJeVuAUmm
Understandable, I'm not try to steel here, I'm just saying it seems a little odd. I preordered mine, and I'll be there for the midnight release, but I probly won't stay for a tournament.
p.s. people who imported the game going to the tourny is mad gay. I'd be pissed if I lost cause some guy has the japanese version and has been training for a month.
-_- All those years playing Melee, for naught, down the drain. Ah well. At least I'llUh, lots of shit still applies from Melee to Brawl and vice-versa. Sure Wavedashgin/Wavelanding and L-cancelling are gone but edgehogging, dash dancing, crouch cancels and more "standard" things are still in.
be able to hone these currently useless, nonexistent skills to make myself a challenge
to tournament regulars.
Umm
Just thought I should mention, this is a Dragon Ball Z game video.
I don't mean to be conceited, but it's good to be aware of oneself, you know?
I'm a master, alongside my brother and our friend Billy at Melee, but against
people who've played Brawl already, and most likely not even having the option
to use gamecube controllers, that' just suicide. I'm gonna be so useless in Brawl!
-_- All those years playing Melee, for naught, down the drain. Ah well. At least I'll
be able to hone these currently useless, nonexistent skills to make myself a challenge
to tournament regulars.
Uh, lots of shit still applies from Melee to Brawl and vice-versa. Sure Wavedashgin/Wavelanding and L-cancelling are gone but edgehogging, dash dancing, crouch cancels and more "standard" things are still in.
Plus, Melee isn't going to die out anytime soon. This is going to be like SF2 and SF3, both games will live on as they'll appeal to very different crowds.
While I agree with most of what you've said, dash dancing seems to suck now. And I thought crouch canceling was removed? That's what everyone's been saying. You've played Brawl, right? Can you confirm this for me next time you play?I meant as in cancelling the dash animation into a crouching state, not cancelling hitstun.
I meant as in cancelling the dash animation into a crouching state, not cancelling hitstun.
idk the usual term for it.
Ah, hmm. That's no good. Any way around that? Why am I able to START the SSE, but can't continue it? Also, is there a mod chip anybody would recommend, I'm intending to buy a wii soon, that'll be new from the store. Any issues with newer wiis as well?Wiikey supports the dual-layer disc (i'm a lazy shit and didn't download/burn the dual-layer dump, I unlocked everything anyway).
Sarhan...were you Ban or $.50 in those videos?
Damn.
Well, it looks like I WILL be around for the US launch after all, so I should be able to participate in the tourney and whatever. I am looking forward to testing my skill against you all.
Man you played 10 matches and only played two characters, only one of them being new? If you like Marth, you should have tried Ike since he is FANTASTIC. Well I guess the game will be out soon, but it seems such a waste!
Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 5% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.
Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 2% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.
Awesome. That makes 25 people, unless Mateui's in. Which leads me to my next question...Mateui, are you in?You bet! Unless it's at some crazy time during the day when I'm unavailable, but I'd love to participate.
throwing Waddle Dees/Doos around and Jet Hammering people in the FACE.The FACE! Don't you just love how it feels to get Bull's-Eye KOs? Anyway, are there any characters anyone thinks will get banned from tournaments the first month of release?
Oh yeah, Dedede also throws capsules instead of Waddle Dees about 2% of the time, even if items are turned off. These capsules can contain just about any item in the game, including Smash Balls. That's right, even with items turned off, Dedede can generate a Smash Ball. I will seriously laugh my ass off when that happens in a tournament and some self-righteous nerd just about has a stroke.
Awesome.
I think I saw some "tourney" players playing Brawl with Smash Balls. It was really cool because they were very strategic and half the time they didn't even hit with the moves.
The FACE! Don't you just love how it feels to get Bull's-Eye KOs? Anyway, are there any characters anyone thinks will get banned from tournaments the first month of release?
Characters won't be banned. That's a fact.
Hahaha. It's nice to know Pit is good, I always thought he looked like a fun character. Anyone have some insight on Lucas vs. Ness? I hear Lucas is a beast, but... Specifics, I guess?I like Lucas better than Ness. His A moves, especially his smash attacks and aerials, seem improved over Ness', and he uses a lot of "psi" flair or whatever in his regular attacks, which pack a nice punch. Of course Ness had that gay yo-yo so that's not saying much. His PK Fire is different, but not necessarily "better," just a different because it has a ton of knockback instead of trapping them in one place. There are some other minor differences in his magic which were posted on the Dojo. Oh and he uses a snake for his grab so he has a bit more range, but it's not terribly long... still handy in some situations though.
I can understand the starting roster for the GW tournament, since it's early and not everyone will have all the characters unlocked-- but one minute matches? Especially with items on (I have no problem with items, I like them), it doesn't seem long enough to really be useful. (Unless I misread, the rules we're using for the GW tourney are the same as the gamestop ones?)
Regarding the gamestop tournaments--does anyone know if there's an entry fee?
I just heard a commercial on the radio that the winner of the Gamestop tourny gets $5,000 and an LCD Tv.
And a library of every single Wii game created by Nintendo ($700 value), plus a trophy estimated to be worth around $500, a Wii ($250), and Wii accessories ($150).
Oh I've heard of it, I also briefly played the original back on the Nintendo 64. I just don't really know the dynamics of the game.
Can 4 people play against each other on the same machine?
Yes. Up to 4 players, with any combination of Players or CPUs with a difficulty from 1-9.And buttons! The controllers have buttons! Imagine!!!!
And buttons! The controllers have buttons! Imagine!!!!
It sounds great, but when you realize that it's a national tournament between all gamestops (probably involving travel to the finals) and people who have imported the game and have been training for months.
Unless I'm mistaken, but I really don't think that they're doing this massive prize at each gamestop tournament.
This is the biggest tip I can give you but it's also kinda cheap:
rule #1 of fighting games: nothing is cheap
I've stopped staying up and waiting for the Dojo (not that I stayed up exclusively for the Dojo but I'd always check it at night), although I still take a look every morning.
Sarhan, that match against Ike was nice. The first video was interesting because you seemed to really play "melee-style", but then got into it more. Although Marth really hasn't changed much from his melee version. You should have played with someone else to really feel Brawl. That was a waste, dude. ;_;
Also:Lucario (Click to reveal)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg319/DaisukeDiru/119977712698625ca448cpn6.webp)
Chill.
Stuntkid, where did they say that?
Hey you cut her some freakin' slack! She's a Smash n00b! Support the n00bs so that they may... I HATE it when people say n00b!
one day rise up and be a challenge!
Most of the claims about the game are mere rumors that the community pulls out of its ass, like the whole thing on there being no more clones... Sakurai never said anything about that.
Oh and Sarhan how is Link if you've played him? Would you consider him buffed or nerfed from Melee? I want to hear your input if you have one please. :)
Pit is the SHIT! Me and some friends were playing Brawl on a friends Jap Wii from 7 to 2 30 in the morning... its fun but slow as fuck.
Huh, so Lucario gets stronger as his damage percentage gets higher. news to me.
It's really not that slow. Slower than Melee, sure, but it's still pretty fast paced. It's a nice balance between SSB64 and Melee, IMO. It is fun as hell though.
so wait.
can every character be unlocked through the subspace emissary mode? 'cause that's mad gay.
maaaaaaaad gay.
It was probably because we played Melee a HELLOFALOT that day... had to release tension a bunch of us quit... (I was supposed to open AND close that day but I called the manager at 10 and told him I quit... 10 is when the store opens he was FUCKED cuz his car was broken down so he had to call the ASM WHO ALSO QUIT thats also whos house i was at playing smash).
When people do things like this, it slowly unravels the threads that hold together the sweater of society :sad:
so wait.
can every character be unlocked through the subspace emissary mode? 'cause that's mad gay.
maaaaaaaad gay.
Yeah, what happened to the days when you had to play the game for 20 hours straight just to unlock one character?
It is a sad direction that video games are heading in. :fogetnah:
i dont know man i just think it's better when you have to do something special to unlock them other than just PLAY THROUGH THE GAME (YOU'LL GET THEM NO MATTER WHAT)
Has anyone been to the tournaments in cali? I'm going to the one in Boston on sat and I want to get an idea of what to expect.
Yeah it's brawl man, so I'm hoping they'll be noobs, but I will be too.
i dont know man i just think it's better when you have to do something special to unlock them other than just PLAY THROUGH THE GAME (YOU'LL GET THEM NO MATTER WHAT)
I went to Gamestop last night and asked about their tournament. The guy behind the counter knew nothing about it, and tried to convince me it would probably be at the Hilton hotel, the same place the halo tournament is going to be.
He referred me to the website at the bottom of the big poster, but I forget the address and I don't care.
Looks like I'll be signing up March 8th!
Did you check if your gamestop was on the list?
Yes. Every gamestop in my city (Omaha) is on the list.
God I can't wait for the release. I'm going to a friends apartment and playing it all night and the next day from it's midnight release.
Did i miss something? Apparently you must have a pre-order to join the tournament(all three of the five gamestops in my area that i went to said the same thing), but i didn't see that anywhere on the website or the little signs they have at the stores. I know it says 'No purchase necessary' so do pre-orders not count as a purchase?
I would go to our local Gamestop for the tourney, but I'm pretty sure we won't have one because I live in a small town the only people to show up would be the handful of Gamestop employees a couple of people (including me) who would actually come for the tourney, and one or two people who were lost and or buying a game for their grandson.
ahahah sarhan factors sleep into his schedule
what a weakling................................
There is no Japanese voice option in English Brawl. This is going to suck, because... well, see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuesnIp0VYMan WHAT.
I have no problems with Meta Knight's voice though. Pit sounds okay too, but a lot of people are complaining that he sounds too effeminate. Ike's voice is just dull and terrible.
There is no Japanese voice option in English Brawl. This is going to suck, because... well, see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuesnIp0VY
I have no problems with Meta Knight's voice though. Pit sounds okay too, but a lot of people are complaining that he sounds too effeminate. Ike's voice is just dull and terrible.
And another new element of gameplay is taken advantage of. :naughty:Pic (Click to reveal)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37054/ssb1_1.png)
I will be going (attempting) to a tournament later today, the Nintendo Sponsored one at Worcester Polytechnic Institute. Just curious but is this the one you are also speaking of?
Btw, people are lining up for tomorrow's tournament right now, I'm gonna try to get down there as soon as I can, I'll post about my exp when I get back.
I'm disapointed Sarhan. Why'd you have to be a typical Marth player?
I really think Sakurai hates his fans.SPOILERS (Click to reveal)LET'S ADD ANOTHER GODDAMN STARFOX CHARACTER! YAAY! IT'S NOT LIKE THE FANS WERE HOPING FOR SOMETHING DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT!
I don't mind the addition of Wolf or Falco, but ALL THREE OF THEM with the SAME FUCKING MOVESET, EVEN FINAL SMASH...it's a little more than I can take.
You haven't looked into them enough if you think they have the same moveset.
Oh. really? I saw a youtube video of the already released version and everything I saw him doing looked the same as the other two.Yeah, I think you need to look again. There are definitely differences.
What's different?
Alrighty, I'm back from the tournament, and I had a blast. I lost though, but its ok, the match was great.Dude I probably saw you there. I was wearing a black and white zelda shirt with a leatherr jacket plus beard. I lost 2-3 on the first round, barely. PLayed as piitt, who's pretty cool man. The exp was increidable, really invigorarating and inspiring thuogh. I got to meet KDJ, a pro smash bros player with a mean ring that says ssbm on one hand, and kdj on the other, and a bunch of other hardcore dudes. KDJ won the whole bloody thing in a some pretty epic matches featuring shiek. I was like I wanted to cry man, it was just so beautiful.
I'm just going to paste my LJ entry because I'm too tired to type much.
"I am back from the WPI Smash Bros Brawl Tournament, and I lost on my first round XD.
I have absolutely no regrets though, I had a lot of fun, and the match was a close 3 - 4 . For my first time at it I think I did pretty good, the character I chose was Diddy.
No excuses here, I gave it my best, and I look forward to next Saturdays Gamestop tournament.
(Also I got some free stuff, and free stuff is always awesome!)"
So yeah, next time! Arrr....
Dude I probably saw you there. I was wearing a black and white zelda shirt with a leatherr jacket plus beard. I lost 2-3 on the first round, barely. PLayed as piitt, who's pretty cool man. The exp was increidable, really invigorarating and inspiring thuogh. I got to meet KDJ, a pro smash bros player with a mean ring that says ssbm on one hand, and kdj on the other, and a bunch of other hardcore dudes. KDJ won the whole bloody thing in a some pretty epic matches featuring shiek. I was like I wanted to cry man, it was just so beautiful.Was the tournament only for tonight? I had really wanted to go to one; but had ansolutely no idea it had been taking place at WPI, or anything. Sucks. (Especially since I live about ten minutes away.)
The unfair thing is that a large group of kids either downloaded the japanese version of the game and burned it to disc, or imported it and has been playing for a month so they have mad exp that they used for the tournament. The game is ill as, but the controls for reg wiimote are gay. For the classic controller is alright but from what I hear the cube controller is best.
It was nice becasuse even after you lose you can still play outside of the tournament. I used an altered id to get in because I'm 17, I bascally put a sticker that I printed setting my birthday a year back. Wasn;t sure if it would fly but the guy didn't say anything, he just kinda looked at me. I got some ill swag like wii gloves and keychain, some kids got bunches of them to like sell or whatever. Basically got there at 8:30 and just chilled for mad hours.
Yeah, I think you need to look again. There are definitely differences.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FukbOlBNqrA (Fox)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7Iv9NE_LO7k (Falco)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H44-wYOcNuw (Wolf)
Does anyone know what characters will be available at the Gamestop tournament (ie. all or starting roster only)?
Dude I probably saw you there. I was wearing a black and white zelda shirt with a leatherr jacket plus beard. I lost 2-3 on the first round, barely. PLayed as piitt, who's pretty cool man. The exp was increidable, really invigorarating and inspiring thuogh. I got to meet KDJ, a pro smash bros player with a mean ring that says ssbm on one hand, and kdj on the other, and a bunch of other hardcore dudes. KDJ won the whole bloody thing in a some pretty epic matches featuring shiek. I was like I wanted to cry man, it was just so beautiful.Awesome, I think I might have seen you, I dunno.
The unfair thing is that a large group of kids either downloaded the japanese version of the game and burned it to disc, or imported it and has been playing for a month so they have mad exp that they used for the tournament. The game is ill as, but the controls for reg wiimote are gay. For the classic controller is alright but from what I hear the cube controller is best.
It was nice becasuse even after you lose you can still play outside of the tournament. I used an altered id to get in because I'm 17, I bascally put a sticker that I printed setting my birthday a year back. Wasn;t sure if it would fly but the guy didn't say anything, he just kinda looked at me. I got some ill swag like wii gloves and keychain, some kids got bunches of them to like sell or whatever. Basically got there at 8:30 and just chilled for mad hours.
Was the tournament only for tonight? I had really wanted to go to one; but had ansolutely no idea it had been taking place at WPI, or anything. Sucks. (Especially since I live about ten minutes away.)Yes only yesterday.
Also, you two live in the area? XD
From what I've read around so far, just the starter.(My guess is because the game hasn't been released yet)
Typical? How so? And why is it disappointing that I use him?
I love Marth. In melee, he's my favorite/best, but I play with Ice Climbers, Samus, Young Link, Sheik, and Dr. Mario all the time. Marth is just my go-to guy when I feel like beating everyone down.
In Brawl, Marth will probably be my best as well, but I'm planning on using Wolf, Luigi, Olimar, Kirby, Toon Link, Ike, Meta Knight, Lucario, and Diddy Kong.
You haven't looked into them enough if you think they have the same moveset.
Yea, I just signed up for the Smash Brawl tornament.
I'LL PWN ALL WITH PURIN (I know it's named Jigglypuff, but I like the name Purin better)
Not only Purin has Rest, Pound, Rollout, and good arial technique, but I'll just use the "Giga Jiggly Glitch" and smash all of yall into bits!
Pound is okay, but rest and rollout are both predictable and easily avoided. Rest requires you to be on top of the opponent while doing it so it's kinda hard to pull off as well.That's what makes it challenging. If you can find a tactical way for you to put those moves to your advantage then alot of new oppotunities will show up. It's a great way to build your skills for any character. Besides its final smash isn't that bad neither. Plus it makes it super humiliating for the opponent if they loose from the attack.
The giant Jigglypuff glitch doesn't increase your hitboxes at all. The game still thinks you're normal size. The only thing that changes is your appearance. There is literally no advantage to that glitch. If anything, it'll put you at a disadvantage because you won't be able to see where you should be attacking.
So I see someone played with Olimar. I'm curious. Is he just useless against characters with deflection abilities? Also, can Pikmin be caught like other thrown projectiles? Is there any significance of the Pikmin's ghosts? What does it feel like to play with Olimar and Pikmin? It just peaks my interest - an all projectile character with so many deflector abilites floating around... Anyone?I'm very curious about this too.
I'm gonna have to argue the hell out of that. How many Pokemon were there?
151. Now how many are there? How far apart is Pikachu from freaking Lucario?
I think characters who become important in the storyline, who are allies of the
main character, ie - Falco to Fox - should deserve consideration. I have to know.
Does anyone agree with you?
Has anyone bought one of those new "Old-School Style Wii controllers?" I was thinking about picking up some if they're more reliable than GC controllers.
Wait, so the buttons on the Gamecube controller don't do the same thing as they did in Melee? :(
So help me god if they made "Up" the only jump option...
Wait, so the buttons on the Gamecube controller don't do the same thing as they did in Melee? :(
So help me god if they made "Up" the only jump option...
So do you guys use the jump button or just 'up'?
I've tried to teach myself to use the button but I just can't. I have to say though, I do accidentally make wrong moves because of using the 'up.'
Well I imagine that the shields are bigger to make up for not being able to light shield. It would make sense anyway. To bad still, I used it a lot.
So do you guys use the jump button or just 'up'?
I've tried to teach myself to use the button but I just can't. I have to say though, I do accidentally make wrong moves because of using the 'up.'
Getting rid of "Up" jump would help a lot when trying to do up attacks, so you don't have to worry about accidentally jumping. The only problem I had because I used X to jump was that I sucked at the No Specials Gameplay mode in Melee (You could only use the control stick and like A).
Hey I got a question: Has anyone played against CPUs? If they have, how much more intelligent would you say they've become versus difficulty 9 on Melee? Are there any retarded glitches such as Fox's movement loop on the lower part of the Hyrule Temple, Captain Falcon's down air-smash A jumping move versus an opponent on a high platform, Luigi's inability to simply do his Up+B recovery instead of F/Smash+B "Green Missile" attack, or Marth's constant Midair+A suicide loop? I hope my question is clear and I didn't confuse anyone in the process.
And I believe I'm pwned on the 3rd-party issue. :P
Yeah, I had that whole problem with hitting up while trying to do up tilts. Luckily, they've added a feature to remove being able to jump with the control stick, so I should be much more efficient with my attacks.
From what I've heard, the CPU AI isn't much better than it was in Melee. Maybe they don't do those same glitches you mentioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if we end up finding new glitches. Hopefully they can recover properly now.
Are player created stages downloadable?
Hmm maybe Roy and Mewtwo are too!
Bahahahaa
CPU AI is way better.
Level 9's are actually a challenge for most ok players.
Doubt it. I think it's just because people aren't good enough yet. Give it a few more weeks and see what happens.
uhhhh
no??
how about you actually fight the level 9 ai.
it's actually good
I guarantee within 2 weeks of owning Brawl, I'll be able to at least 2 stock a level 9 CPU (out of 3 stock).
what part of "ok players" did you not understand? ._.
@Sarhan - Cocky aren't we much? :fogethuh:
Where is everyone getting their copies of Brawl from? My brother pre-ordered his at Blockbuster and they won't be open for the Midnight release, so we have to wait till 10:00am the next morning. :(
And he wasn't going to pre-order from GameStop because he thought that his copy wouldn't be "new", because GameStop employees can take games and they take new and used games out of the cases and put them in the back, so they could've taken a new game home and filed it as new again.
question, is the midnight release, saturday at 12:00am or sunday at 12:00am?Saturday night (ie, the beginning of sunday morning).
as in saturday night or sunday night
Huh?Agreed. I think everyone's going to want a piece of Sarhan in this. I'll add mine to a Wii code topic, but it's also in my sig. Lookin' forward to fighting everybody...
Also I think we should make a separate topic for Brawl codes. I don't want to run to my Wii every 10 minutes to put another code in; I'd much rather do them all at once.
Agreed. I think everyone's going to want a piece of Sarhan in this. I'll add mine to a Wii code topic, but it's also in my sig. Lookin' forward to fighting everybody...
How many months til July? :sad:You poor thing. ._.
So, has all the Earthbound/Mother stuff been confirmed for the English release or was it edited like some rumors say?
Agreed. I think everyone's going to want a piece of Sarhan in this. I'll add mine to a Wii code topic, but it's also in my sig. Lookin' forward to fighting everybody...
Don't let anybody psyche you out by listening to their conciet of skill.I want to kill you, too. I want to kill...everybody.(in Brawl)
If you do, it'll mess with your split second decision making in Brawl.
What I'm saying is, and don't let this get to you: I know I'd beat Sarhan
in Melee, no questions. In Brawl, it's only a matter of me playing for a bit
to pick up the differences. I'll give out the WiiCode once I feel I'm ready
for the lot of you.
Also I think we should make a separate topic for Brawl codes. I don't want to run to my Wii every 10 minutes to put another code in; I'd much rather do them all at once.
I know I'd beat Sarhan
in Melee, no questions.
Gonna sell my preorder for toys r us and get it from gamestop at the midnight launch/tournament. Do you think I would be alright not preordering at gamestop and just going straight up? I mean gamestop is a kind of low key place I don't think there will be too many people.
Agreed. I think everyone's going to want a piece of Sarhan in this. I'll add mine to a Wii code topic, but it's also in my sig. Lookin' forward to fighting everybody...
I think I'll make a separate topic when Brawl is released. We can use the same thread to organize our first tournament a few weeks later as well. If any moderator would rather do it themselves, that's cool with me. Otherwise I'm making a thread as soon as I get Brawl at the midnight release.
I don't know man. I'm actually somewhat better than those vids you may have seen of me. The DVD player I used to record vids causes a small amount of input lag, screwing me over whenever I try to l-cancel, WD, or waveland. I can easily 3 stock those guys in the videos if I play without recording with the DVD player.
I'd preorder it just in case. Not sure about the gamestop in your area, but the ones near me get a lot of business, so I wouldn't necessarily consider them low key. Up to you though.
lol...don't know why me in particular, but hell, I'm down. It'll be my pleasure to give you all a beating.
Sarhan, I'm pretty sure so far you're the best GW member that we know of, in Melee. I kick my friends' asses 9 out of 10 times, so I'm aching for new blood. I guess fighting better players makes you better, so... Get ready! :)
When it comes to smash, yes.
Goody, another ego I get to crush. :fogetnaughty: Crushing people's ego's is what I do best, I can crush a lot except for one individual... he is forever be remained to be my Arch enemy...
I like to smack talk, but it backfires a lot. It's all in good fun. I'll be doing the same in Brawl, so I don't want anyone taking it personally and getting offended or thinking I'm some elitist ass.
Ok guys, I'm making a "scrubs to beat down" list. So far this includes jman00, xcomicsoulx, and StuntKid. A week after Brawl has been out, I'll send you each challenges and proceed to do what the list title calls for.Sorry, you only get to make those lists after you become an opper on #capcom or a mod on SWF/SB. Know what's funny about them too? Damn scrubs keep coming back for more so you can't scratch off their names.
Oh, and in case you forgot:
My Game and Watch will wipe the floor with all of you anyway.You main G&W too?! We are now rivals, sir. I have your code from the code topic, so you'd better add mine! G&W FANS UNITE!!!
How many months til July? :sad:http://uk.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-FreeLoader__EF000595.aspx
My friend found this today: http://uk.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-FreeLoader__EF000595.aspx
Considering Brawl is realeased tommorow over in the US, it's got me all excited becasue I can't be bothered waiting another 2 month's for it to be released in the UK!
I've got no doubts that it will run the game fine, but I was wondering whether anyone knew if it would allow brawl to go online? I have a funny feeling it wont but if someone could confirm this it'd be swell.
Obama 49% Clinton 50%, 33% reporting.yeah
I'm so excited he's gonna pull it off because college towns haven't reported in!
DOES NOT SHIP TO AUSTRALIA
Poor, poor Carius
And it's pretty obvious that all nintendo's going to do is disable it upon their next 'essential' firmware update patch just like what sony tries to do.