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General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: Tau on November 24, 2007, 11:05:19 pm
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A 15-YEAR-old girl was put in a Brazilian jail cell with more than 20 men, and for a month was raped relentlessly and forced to have sex for food, human rights groups say.
"She was raped from day one'' at the jail in Para state, a Children and Adolescent Defence Centre (Cedeca) spokeswoman said.
The number of men in the cell varied from 20 to 34 while the girl, a robbery suspect, was there.
"She was raped innumerable times and forced to exchange sexual relations for food,'' said Miere Cohen, the president of the Order of Brazilian Lawyers Human Rights Commission.
Media reports of the case have sparked outrage across Brazil, especially since it closely followed an earlier incident of a 23-year-old woman who was also jailed in Para state for one month together with 70 men.
The teenager, whose identity was not disclosed, was arrested in Para state capital Abaetetuba on October 21 on suspicion of robbery and put behind bars at a local police station jailhouse until an anonymous caller tipped off the media.
"Nobody really knows what she was charged with. She was a suspect in a robbery but police were unable to tell us which robbery. There was no formal charge,'' Ms Cohen said.
The girl's lawyers said police at one point said they believed the suspect was not under-age.
"Whether she was 15, 20, 50, 80 or 100 doesn't matter. A woman should not have been kept in a jail cell with men,'' Para Governor Ana Julia Carepa said.
She said she would mete out "exemplary punishment'' in the case.
The girl, whose family is very poor, "is distraught and very afraid, but said she's able to recognise the police officers who locked her up and the detainees who raped her. She's ready to talk", the Cedeca spokeswoman said.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22808222-23109,00.html?from=mostpop
WTF!! I truly feel sorry for the girl, that is just wrong.. :tsk:
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Ah fucking hell this made me feel bad for like 2 days, I was really hoping no one would make a topic about it.
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Yeah I read about this a couple of days ago. It's despicable.
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Wow, absolutely brilliant Brazil.
How the hell does something like that happen?
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I read about this a couple of days ago. It's absolutely vile, especially since, as the article states, it isn't the first time this type of incident has occurred.
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Jesus Fucking christ almighty
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Wow, hopefully all the people who raped her get pretty heavy sentences after this!
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I have a lot of respect for rape victims, especially when they survived. This just sickens me...
Since those 20 animals are already in jail, the question now is how to punish them. I sure as hell don't want them to think what they had was a prison fun-time.
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8558/hunterim3.gif)
Crude castration come to mind... painful, permanent, and we can start with the policemen...
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What I want to know is where the prison officers were when this was going on?
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What I want to know is where the prison officers were when this was going on?
Joining in the fun.
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Wow...just...just wow....
Terrible and wrong on so many different levels....
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why is the world filled with fucking happenings
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Jesus, now I think I'll end up feeling bad about this for a day or two...
I hope those guys get what's coming to them for this.
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This is just fucked up. This has happened twice? Don't governments learn?
BTW Quickening, I agree.
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I don't have much words to say... I really don't, I just wish those people just got killed or something.
I know they're criminals and all but seriously, do NONE of those 20 or 35 people have a conscientious at all? I don't even know how people could consider rape.
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Am I missing something? Why were (are) all those men in a children's facility?
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Am I missing something? Why were (are) all those men in a children's facility?
I'm pretty sure she was thrown into an adult jail, genious.
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well, I guess the plus side to this is at least she wasn't discriminated against for her gender and treated equally as a male?
pretty shitty though, maybe someone had it out for her or her family (drugs involved?)
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Only in America...
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Only in America...
JOKES LOL HILARIOUS SITUATION CALLS FOR JOKES RIGHT???
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Wow..... I feel sorry for her. Maybe they make the rapists and the guards(Who obviously where recording this or laughing at it) stab themselves till they die or hang them on the wall without food for a week or month.
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This is a terrible act of cruelty, and one of the most horrible things I have ever read in my entire life, I actually cringed on this one.
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JOKES LOL HILARIOUS SITUATION CALLS FOR JOKES RIGHT???
oh I'm sorry, I didn't know there was rule for no jokes in threads. I need to brush up on my GW rules. :fogetmmh: Do you even understand the joke? no, I guess not.
And if you didn't like the joke, or didn't get it, look over it like everyone else instead of giving it attention since you think it shouldn't be there in the first place.
and the warn from rogue anime scholar. "thanks for this post faggot."
Your welcome, faggot. >=D
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i don't understand why you're so offended myke 'cause i'm from america and i like to rape people too
wait brazil what
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oh I'm sorry, I didn't know there was rule for no jokes in threads. I need to brush up on my GW rules. :fogetmmh: Do you even understand the joke? no, I guess not.
And if you didn't like the joke, or didn't get it, look over it like everyone else instead of giving it attention since you think it shouldn't be there in the first place.
and the warn from rogue anime scholar. "thanks for this post faggot."
Your welcome, faggot. >=D
I did get your joke. It was stupid and inappropriate. It doesn't matter what the rules are on joke posts; you're an ignorant fuck for coming into a thread like this and making a dumb joke to try and look like a cool guy.
This is a seriously disturbing situation, and your stupid joke (which isn't even funny for the record (only in america (lmao of it didn't happen in america get it guys??? (i am using a joke from a year ago and trying to BRING IT BACK (bad timing i will probably try again next time something serious happens))))) doesn't lighten the mood, it just makes people angry, and makes peoples opinions of you lower, guy. (Which, for the record, is already pretty low)
If you want to make dumb jokes, do it elsewhere.
edit: chainer I see what you are doing but that was a different type of inappropriate
and i didn't try to justify that afterword and apologised immediately.
this is not the place for that though
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JOKES LOL HILARIOUS SITUATION CALLS FOR JOKES RIGHT???
Btw, did your babies momma ever stop yelling at you for what you said at the doctors office?
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Wow, hopefully all the people who raped her get pretty heavy sentences after this!
Someone locks a 15-year-old girl up with 20 criminals, and the criminals are the ones you think deserve the punishment? Not that they shouldn't be, but that's like throwing a mouse at a bunch of cats and then claim no responsibility when it's killed.
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stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid
fucking people
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Just in case Xeno|Soft is considering arguing his case further: don't.
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Am I missing something? Why were (are) all those men in a children's facility?
Well she was thrown into a local police station jailhouse. I don't know if they even have separate cells for juveline offenders there, but the police did also state that they did not think the girl was underage. Not that it helps anymore though - it's not like trapping a young girl into a small space with 20 criminals isn't extremely poor judgement to begin with.
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Ah fucking hell this made me feel bad for like 2 days, I was really hoping no one would make a topic about it.
This. :(
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Someone locks a 15-year-old girl up with 20 criminals, and the criminals are the ones you think deserve the punishment? Not that they shouldn't be, but that's like throwing a mouse at a bunch of cats and then claim no responsibility when it's killed.
I have to agree with this.
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Ok so everyone needs to say what they REALLY think.
FUCK YOU YOU PIECES OF SHIT LOW LIFE BULL SHIT CUM GUZZLING MOTHERFUCKERS!
I'm sorry to type all caps, but god DAMN I wish I could go to Brazil right now and beat the fucking shit out of every single one of those motherfuckers in the jail who even thought of touching the poor girl.
People here in the U.S. who get put in prison for child molestation get their fucking asses beat right there in the jail by all the criminals in there who think that's wrong. Which must be will over 90 % of them because it happens all the time here. It happened here in Indiana just over a week ago.
Brazil must be full of fucked up worthless pieces of shit if that girl can be taken advantage of for that long and for no one to stand up for her.
Fucking bullshit.
Everyone who even looked at her with lustful eyes, I hope they get fucking cancer and die the most miserable painful death you could ever imagine.
Fuck you Brazil. Fuck you Brazilian police. Fuck you Brazilian journalism for bringing it to our attention and yet still not being able to do a single fucking thing about it.
I dare a child molester to even greet me. Say Hi, and if I know who you are I will kill you in cold blood right in front of a whole army of police officers.
This is the kind of shit that makes people like me wish I'd die in a car accident every day. I can't believe I live in this world.
Where the fuck are you Jesus?
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Brazil must be full of fucked up worthless pieces of shit if that girl can be taken advantage of for that long and for no one to stand up for her.
Fucking bullshit.
Everyone who even looked at her with lustful eyes, I hope they get fucking cancer and die the most miserable painful death you could ever imagine.
Fuck you Brazil. Fuck you Brazilian police. Fuck you Brazilian journalism for bringing it to our attention and yet still not being able to do a single fucking thing about it.
This is the kind of shit that makes people like me wish I'd die in a car accident every day. I can't believe I live in this world.
Where the fuck are you Jesus?
*wipes tear*
beautiful....
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Wow, absolutely brilliant Brazil.
How the hell does something like that happen?
I blame sesame street and santa.
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I blame sesame street and santa.
Are you a fucking moron, perchance?
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Abaetetuba is not Pará's capital but yes it's a horrible thing, now because of some sociopathic police officers everyone will think Brazil is like those islamic countries where it's OK to gang rape women for whatever "reasons"
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THAT'LL teach her not to steal.
Seriously, I don't think this was some sort of oversight or whatever. Someone did this knowing what would happen, and didn't care about the consequences. I'm guessing it happens more often than we know (or care to), especially if the person in question is poor and unable to retaliate without outside help.
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Someone needs to nuke the world and start over.
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This doesn't really bug me, as I'm not the one who was raped, so yeah.
Although it is a horrible thing to hear about, and the officers should lose their job for being retards and shit, but because they mistook her for being older, I don't think they can be arrested or anything. I dunno...
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This doesn't really bug me, as I'm not the one who was raped, so yeah.
Although it is a horrible thing to hear about, and the officers should lose their job for being retards and shit, but because they mistook her for being older, I don't think they can be arrested or anything. I dunno...
yeah man its not really a big deal
just vicious repeated gang rape
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Are you a fucking moron, perchance?
It's quite clear that he was joking about the recent reports that things like old school episodes of Sesame Street and Santa saying, "Ho, ho, ho!" have been deemed inappropriate for children. Because, you know, clearly those things have fucked up a generation of people. This is clearly the result.
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This doesn't really bug me, as I'm not the one who was raped, so yeah.
If only we took that same stance on everything. "Well, the Holocaust was bad and all, but I wasn't killed in it, so, why do I care?"
A world callously indifferent to one another's pain. I've dreamed of that world for so long....
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We're already there.
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hey guess what guys (this happens every day all over the fuckin place you just dont hear about it becuase it is in like subsaharan africa and other backwards ass places that the media doesnt care about at all)
that said.. the fact that prison authorities just let this happened should be a wakeup call for the brazilian system and will hopefully spark some sort of reactionary reform preventing this kind of shit from happening again
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Everyone who even looked at her with lustful eyes, I hope they get fucking cancer and die the most miserable painful death you could ever imagine.
Fuck you Brazil. Fuck you Brazilian police. Fuck you Brazilian journalism for bringing it to our attention and yet still not being able to do a single fucking thing about it.
I dare a child molester to even greet me. Say Hi, and if I know who you are I will kill you in cold blood right in front of a whole army of police officers.
Because that makes you better than them, right? No. Murder is absolutely not acceptable under any circumstances. Jesus.
Sure this is a completely fucked up and horrible thing, but you seem to think that the murder of 20+ people is a-okay just because these people have absolutely no morales. Guess what: they didn't KILL her. Death is the worst thing that can happen to a person, and she's still alive. I'm not backing up what these sickos did; what they did is absolutely fucking disgusting, and I think they should be punished for this despicable act. But by this post I can conclude that you're completely incapable of logical thinking. An eye for an eye is barbaric, and we do not live in a barbaric society anymore. Grow up.
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artgh I am som ad I just want to poke there eyes out with a fork
MRRHHHHHHHRAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Death is the worst thing that can happen to a person, and she's still alive. I'm not backing up what these sickos did; what they did is absolutely fucking disgusting, and I think they should be punished for this despicable act. But by this post I can conclude that you're completely incapable of logical thinking. An eye for an eye is barbaric, and we do not live in a barbaric society anymore. Grow up.
No it isn't. The discomforts of death are suffered chiefly by those who are still alive. The person who is actually dead is just... dead. Considering there's no prolonged pain and no traumatization, I think you're just revealing the limited fount of your experience with that statement. We have no way of knowing the sensation of death without dying. Sure, there are worse ways of dying than others, and we as a culture have a great fear and awe of Death, but there's no way that death is the most horrible thing that can happen to a person.
Also yeah, putting a girl in prison for robbery with 20 criminal men isn't barbaric at all.
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No it isn't. The discomforts of death are suffered chiefly by those who are still alive. The person who is actually dead is just... dead. Considering there's no prolonged pain and no traumatization, I think you're just revealing the limited fount of your experience with that statement. We have no way of knowing the sensation of death without dying. Sure, there are worse ways of dying than others, and we as a culture have a great fear and awe of Death, but there's no way that death is the most horrible thing that can happen to a person.
Also yeah, putting a girl in prison for robbery with 20 criminal men isn't barbaric at all.
And therein we have the hypocrisy of your post.
Oh, and btw, this was a very sad thing to read about, however I was wonder how I would feel if it were a young boy rather than a girl, hmm...
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No it isn't. The discomforts of death are suffered chiefly by those who are still alive. The person who is actually dead is just... dead.
Explain that to the families of the people you'd gladly have executed.
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Explain that to the families of the people you'd gladly have executed.
As soon as you point me towards a post where I made that statement, or anything implying it.
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As soon as you point me towards a post where I made that statement, or anything implying it.
Well, you clearly think that executing people isn't such a big problem anyway, because it's "not all that bad". That's not going to change, despite the fact you don't seem to want to apply that principle to this case.
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Well, you clearly think that executing people isn't such a big problem anyway, because it's "not all that bad". That's not going to change, despite the fact you don't seem to want to apply that principle to this case.
Um, hi, all I said on the matter in this thread is that it is unlikely that death is the worst thing that can happen to a person. I'm still waiting for the specific post that you're referring to.
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Um, hi, all I said on the matter in this thread is that it is unlikely that death is the worst thing that can happen to a person.
Oh, well, forgive me kindly for getting the wrong idea. For the record, you made that post right after someone stated that you can't simply kill someone for having committed a crime. But it's good to know that you weren't trying to disagree with him.
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This doesn't really bug me, as I'm not the one who was raped, so yeah.
Ever felt sympathy for another human being?
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No it isn't. The discomforts of death are suffered chiefly by those who are still alive. The person who is actually dead is just... dead. Considering there's no prolonged pain and no traumatization, I think you're just revealing the limited fount of your experience with that statement. We have no way of knowing the sensation of death without dying. Sure, there are worse ways of dying than others, and we as a culture have a great fear and awe of Death, but there's no way that death is the most horrible thing that can happen to a person.
Also yeah, putting a girl in prison for robbery with 20 criminal men isn't barbaric at all.
I didn't say it's the most horrific thing, because it's clearly not, but in the long run it's the worst thing that can happen. If you think about it you'll understand what I'm saying. You seem to have completely missed everything I tried to say in my post though, seriously. They should be punished for what they did (the rapists AND OFFICERS) because what they did is clearly wrong, but murdering them is equally as wrong and therefore a barbaric judgment.
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Oh hell. More bad news.
Yea, sick world we live in. Stupid people. yada yada.
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you know i read this a few hours ago and I've been thinkin about that poor girl and just how she will probably never have a happy or care free life in the future regardless of getting a boyfriend, girlfriend husband/wife whatever. Even if she does someone traumatized like that will have a hard time having a relationship...It really just pisses me off that people do that, I mean men face the same troubles if they are weak and thrown in jail (i.e. a weak man thrown in for child rape will be raped as if he was said 15 year old girl. Not the same situation, but an adequate example to my point). So I guess you could figure that in America they would do the same thing with a 15 year old male and jail him with full grown if his crime is ridiculously bad, not stealing mind you though. But in holding cells he can still be raped, most criminals stuck in overnight holding cells don't care about life and will rape a young kid who's stuck there overnight anyway. I don't know I want to feel bad for the girl and I sincerely do but I can't help but figure she shouldn't have played around in committing crimes anyway. I mean she'll obviously never do it again but something, a very small part of me, wonders why human nature is so drastic towards one side. No one feels bad for killers or pedophiles, male or female, if they are raped in jail by their own sex. But when something like this happens we all flip out and feel so horrible for the girl. Why is that? Personally I only feel bad cause of her age and the fact she won't have a single normal relationship from here on out, but its more then that honestly. I'm human I feel bad cause shes a girl. But not a single person here can say they would feel the same about a male raped, they would feel bad but not equally. And many would say he deserved it for breaking the law, no one I personally know or even myself but some people have outrageous views towards criminals and what they deserve, not saying they are a bad person or not. Sorry I sorta rambled on the subject... :sweat:
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What's the purpouse of posting this besides making everyone feel bad?
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What's the purpouse of posting this besides making everyone feel bad?
Discussion.
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Discussion.
Of what? How bad it is? I think this is one occasion everyone can agree is globally bad. It isn't like there are varying views on the subject (apart from GRR SHOULD KILL THE FUCKERS and NO DEATH IS A RELEASE but that isn't really part of this topic there should be a capital punishment topic or something for that)
every time i see this topic i just remember it and feel bad again
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Shite that's terrible!
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you know i read this a few hours ago and I've been thinkin about that poor girl and just how she will probably never have a happy or care free life in the future regardless of getting a boyfriend, girlfriend husband/wife whatever. Even if she does someone traumatized like that will have a hard time having a relationship...It really just pisses me off that people do that, I mean men face the same troubles if they are weak and thrown in jail (i.e. a weak man thrown in for child rape will be raped as if he was said 15 year old girl. Not the same situation, but an adequate example to my point). So I guess you could figure that in America they would do the same thing with a 15 year old male and jail him with full grown if his crime is ridiculously bad, not stealing mind you though. But in holding cells he can still be raped, most criminals stuck in overnight holding cells don't care about life and will rape a young kid who's stuck there overnight anyway. I don't know I want to feel bad for the girl and I sincerely do but I can't help but figure she shouldn't have played around in committing crimes anyway. I mean she'll obviously never do it again but something, a very small part of me, wonders why human nature is so drastic towards one side. No one feels bad for killers or pedophiles, male or female, if they are raped in jail by their own sex. But when something like this happens we all flip out and feel so horrible for the girl. Why is that? Personally I only feel bad cause of her age and the fact she won't have a single normal relationship from here on out, but its more then that honestly. I'm human I feel bad cause shes a girl. But not a single person here can say they would feel the same about a male raped, they would feel bad but not equally. And many would say he deserved it for breaking the law, no one I personally know or even myself but some people have outrageous views towards criminals and what they deserve, not saying they are a bad person or not. Sorry I sorta rambled on the subject... :sweat:
Well, I tend to have a lower view towards pedophiles and murderers than I do towards a little girl who steals. Shit, I know that a majority of people will never steal in their lives, but many people did and do; I stole as a child, got caught, slapped with a $50 fine and dealt with by my parents, and I haven't stolen a penny since. I just don't think a child stealing is the most severe of crimes. Do not mistake that statement. A child who steals should be punished, but I think jail might've even gone too far (but I don't know the circumstances or the laws in Brazil).
Of course those in the penal system have a responsibility to treat criminals like people and sentence them like people not monsters, but like I've said before (not in this thread), not being a judge, I don't feel myself bound by these parameters, so yes, when a rapist or a murderer gets raped in prison, I don't feel too bad for that person. A 15 year old girl who got jailed for stealing, however, with 20 criminal men (and I don't think there's a reasonable person who doesn't know what happens when you do that) is tragic.
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What's the purpouse of posting this besides making everyone feel bad?
ignorance is bliss eh?
this is really sad but as wash cycle said this isn't just one case in the world, there are many others that we don't know of. well we do but they aren't as popular. take the case in Africa and child rape ( yeah sorry the link is like 6 years old but still lol) http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25806.
A bizarre belief among many African black men that sex with a virgin -- even a child or baby -- can cure HIV/AIDS is fueling what is already one of the highest child sexual exploitation rates in the world.
a lot of you have prolly heard of it but some haven't. same aspect :fogetmmh:
anyways i really think the Brazilian gov't should be the one charged and honestly they need to make changes. it doesn't even say why she was sent to prison, well there was a very brief statement on how she stole something.
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cess pool of STD's
they'll get what's coming to them. :fogetnaughty:
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Discussion.
Other than "This is horrible", what can we say?
Anyone who gives any notion of being against the girl in any way is gonna get their ass handed to them on a silver platter of righteousness.
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Anyone who gives any notion of being against the girl in any way is gonna get their ass handed to them on a silver platter of righteousness.
Maybe she liked it :fogetshrug:
whatever floats your boat I guess.
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This doesn't really bug me, as I'm not the one who was raped, so yeah.
Although it is a horrible thing to hear about, and the officers should lose their job for being retards and shit, but because they mistook her for being older, I don't think they can be arrested or anything. I dunno...
You remind me of this poem:
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
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kamina thats a nice poem. sadly it doesnt remind me of cold omen though :/
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Of what? How bad it is? I think this is one occasion everyone can agree is globally bad.
Well, I don't know. Be creative, figure something out yourself. Try and ask for some more information on the subject, such as how the officers involved are defending their mistake, or maybe you could point out the fact that even if you ignore this incident, the Brazilian prison is probably the worst place in the world to be in. If you want to talk about something vaguely related to the subject, then do so. Yes, there isn't much to say about the actual subject, which is the incident itself, but do you really want me to lock this topic for that reason?
Other than "This is horrible", what can we say?
Well, if you can't figure anything out, don't say anything at all.
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Someone needs to nuke the world and start over.
:rite:
Seriously, how could've they not know she's 15?
Seriously, what's up with the world these days :fogetnah:
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Seriously, how could've they not know she's 15?
As if knowing that would have mattered to them.
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Yes, there isn't much to say about the actual subject, which is the incident itself, but do you really want me to lock this topic for that reason?
Ya because I keep feeling bad every time I see it bumped.
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Abaetetuba is not Pará's capital but yes it's a horrible thing, now because of some sociopathic police officers everyone will think Brazil is like those islamic countries where it's OK to gang rape women for whatever "reasons"
Actually I live in an Islamic country and I can assure you that rape is not acceptable here and is served with the death sentence.
All I can say now is that the men who did this deserve to be raped themselves but this would probably just be making it worse...
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That is horrible (iam halping promoate discusson)
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I was thinking about this the other night, and some things didn't make sense to me. Now, while I think I could kill someone if the circumstances were right (like, it was absolutely necessary), but if I killed someone (thereby possibly becoming a criminal) that wouldn't make me a fucking RAPIST. How were all of these criminals they put her in jail with rapists, as well? Is every criminal in Brazil a rapist, automatically? And what kind of fucking jail cell holds 20 people for more than a day? There are holding cells, yes, but usually those are under close police supervision and hold no more than five people for court dates and the like.
Back to the crime at hand: While it was the criminals who did the deed, I think the real villains here are the police. Police are there to keep shit like this from happening, not completely facilitate it. People trust police (well, I do) and so they have a duty to not let this happen. I can accept the error of leaving her in there one night- "Shit guys what did we do, we put a young girl in with a bunch of hardened criminals!"- but how, after hearing her screams and sobbing and pleas for escape (which must have existed) can you leave her in there? That's what makes me truly sick about this; a month under police supervision. They'd see the bruises even if she was told to keep quiet for pain of death, they'd know it was happening even if they were blind fools. And yet they let it keep happening.
It doesn't matter if you are 15 or 50, you shouldn't be thrown into a jail cell with 20 rapists because you are charged with theft. The guys who raped her should be castrated (blanket punishment for all rapists), and the cops should be lined up against a wall and shot. Don't preach to me about the punishment not fitting the crime, because what they did was evil. It wasn't just "malicious" or "sadistic", it was pure fucking evil. Who knows what spurred it on, but it is unforgivable to think that somewhere, anywhere, the one civil body you rely on to protect you from crime submits you to crime of the most terrible sort and keeps you in hell for a month for possibly breaking the law in some comparably insignificant way.
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I was thinking about this the other night, and some things didn't make sense to me. Now, while I think I could kill someone if the circumstances were right (like, it was absolutely necessary), but if I killed someone (thereby possibly becoming a criminal) that wouldn't make me a fucking RAPIST. How were all of these criminals they put her in jail with rapists, as well? Is every criminal in Brazil a rapist, automatically? And what kind of fucking jail cell holds 20 people for more than a day? There are holding cells, yes, but usually those are under close police supervision and hold no more than five people for court dates and the like.
well, its brazil, so you probably shouldn't apply OUR PRISON AND POLICE RULES to theirs, cause they probably don't have them.
As for the rapists thing...
Imagine if you've been in jail for lets say, 20 years. That is 7,305 days without any sexual contact with a woman, hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't seen a woman in that amount of time really. The prisoners that she got thrown in with were probably sexually starved, their libido's through the roof, etc.
They are probably thinking to themselves "FUCK YEAH A GIRL LETS GET HER!!!" because, whats the worst thats going to happen? They get more jail time? For them, its probably worth it.
You don't have to be a rapist, or a previous rapist, to rape someone. Likewise, you don't have to be a cannibal or a previous cannibal to eat human flesh, you just have to be put in a situation that would allow it, two different situations in this case, but still....when you're starved for something, and if you've been in prison for that long, you're broken down already, nothing else really matters to you, and I'm sure since its Brazil their prisons are shit (our prisons in America are godlike really, we pamper our prisoners too much actually imho), so they are even more broken down. They don't give a fuck what they do, as long as they get some tangible benefit, its probably worth it!
just imo though, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Well, I don't know - like even if the procedures in Brazil are different, I'd assume a "police station jailhouse" only holds a person a couple of days tops, let alone two dozen in the same cell. Hardly the time to become sexually deprived enough to rape a young girl. I'd sooner blame mob mentality, actually, though I wouldn't say that everyone in the cell suddenly became a rapist - if there were even two or three individuals twisted enough to go through with it, it may have intimidated even those with a fucking conscience into not responding since they were, after all, trapped in a small space with twenty other and potentially dangerous people. (It didn't help that the guards never came to intervene either.)
It's not exactly a place where you want to turn the group against you (thought really, I'd like to expect better even from jail inmates.)
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They ranged from 20-34. I am 22 and I haven't had sex in two years (and before that, it was 19 years, and I managed to not rape anything!). And there is no way that Brazilian jails are just "rooms". It was obviously some sort of of holding cell at a police station, so obviously those guys hadn't been there for twenty years or even five years. Brazil isn't some third world country (perhaps parts of the equatorial rain forest may seem like it, but this happened in a small city) and they have LAWS and a JUSTICE SYSTEM there.
You are mixing up jails and prison; jails are any area where you hold a prison (for even a short time), whereas a prison is a permanent holding facility. You don't hold people for years and years in a jail cell, you put them in prison. I don't know, this seems an awful lot like a human rights violation to me, which is supposed to be treated in a certain way. If the federal government can't force their provincial/state governments to prevent situations like this happening, then they are failing as a federal government.
edit: even if (especially if) they were all rapists to start off with it's still the fault of the officers this happened. Yes, the inmates are of course to blame for making the worst possible decision (even if it was only a few of them) but that decision should never, not in the last five hundred years of anything resembling a civilization, have been presented to them in the first place.
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Kampfer wtf are you talking about. Do you expect everyone to just go around making the bestest and most rational decisions? If they were like this there wouldn't be any kind of police in first place.
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Inri, wtf are you talking about. I expect the POLICE to go around make the best (not bestest) and most rational decisions, which in this case, they obviously didn't.
I agree with Kaempfer 100%.
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Inri, wtf are you talking about. I expect the POLICE to go around make the best (not bestest) and most rational decisions, which in this case, they obviously didn't.
I agree with Kaempfer 100%.
Then you're expecting something that will never happen
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Whatever, I don't think I understood what he said so ignore what I said.
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Then you're expecting something that will never happen
yeah man fuck tha po-lice
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edit: even if (especially if) they were all rapists to start off with it's still the fault of the officers this happened. Yes, the inmates are of course to blame for making the worst possible decision (even if it was only a few of them) but that decision should never, not in the last five hundred years of anything resembling a civilization, have been presented to them in the first place.
What does that sentence mean. The five hundred years thing.
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What does that sentence mean. The five hundred years thing.
I meant that not since the end of the dark ages (and the start of the renaissance) should the notion of thrusting a young girl into a cell have happened across the officer's minds. I only don't go back further because before then most cells came in dungeon form, and anyone who has seen a real dungeon cell realizes that would be impossible to put three people into one, never mind 21.
I am saying that no police officer since the end of the dark ages should have ever considered doing what they did to that girl.
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sounds like a plot to a hentai.
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sounds like a plot to a hentai.
Thanks.
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This is so fucked up I can't even get sad.
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Thanks.
sorry, couldn't resist.
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This is really fucked up.
Jesus Christ.
That is all.
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the real question here is
do i, like everyone else, say "omg this is fucked up" and then proceed how i plan to personally go to brazil "and kill every one of those motherfuckers omg"
or
do i make a stupid joke and get a warning
decisions
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the real question here is
do i, like everyone else, say "omg this is fucked up" and then proceed how i plan to personally go to brazil "and kill every one of those motherfuckers omg"
or
do i make a stupid joke and get a warning
decisions
i think the topic could still use a few more token douchebags with no capacity for empathy, if neither of those options appeal to you.
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i think the topic could still use a few more token douchebags with no capacity for empathy, if neither of those options appeal to you.
Bitch probably deserved it anyway, would have skull fucked her myself. Still.. amateurs.
Everyone knows girls WANT to be raped anyway.
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Alright then, I'll do what everybody wants me to do anyway and lock it so that it will float out of the forum index for sure.
I was gonna just let it die like these topics should but I guess I have no choice!