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Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 09, 2007, 01:42:37 am
I thought this topic would be better placed in the general forum than the movie forum.


There is a movie called Zeitgeist which is streamed free on the internet here: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



Part I: The Greatest Story Ever Told Part I evaluates Christian beliefs established in the Bible and critiques the historicity of the Bible. In furtherance of the Jesus myth hypothesis, this part argues that the historical Jesus is a literary and astrological hybrid, and that the Bible is based on astrological principles documented by many ancient civilizations, especially pertaining to movement of the sun through the sky and stars.


Don't Mind The Men Behind The Curtain asserts that the powerful bankers of the world have been conspiring for world domination and increased power. According to the documentary, the rich of society have been using their wealth to increase financial panic and foster a consolidation of independent competing banks. The film details the Theory of Electronic Conspiracy that the Federal Reserve System, the central banking system of the United States, was created in order to steal the wealth of the nation. It showcases the amount of money that has been made by these rich few during World War I, World War II, the Vietnam War and now the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It describes the goal of these bankers as world power over a completely controllable public.[2]



It discusses an opinion about the myth of jesus and electronic conspiracy. Pretty interesting stuff and though it might be cool to discuss, click the link below for more info :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_movie
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Lyndon on December 09, 2007, 01:46:02 am
yeah I've seen this. It's well put together documentary. You have to have an open mind to watch it though. I know plenty of people that just pass it off as bullshit before listening to what they have to say
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: tuxedo marx on December 09, 2007, 01:48:47 am
Please, don't encourage them.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Wil on December 09, 2007, 01:50:25 am
here we go...
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Doktormartini on December 09, 2007, 02:13:31 am
There was already a topic about this.  There are other documentaries out there that cover the topics discussed in this one, but they do it well better.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Grin Tree on December 09, 2007, 02:22:09 am
There was already a topic about this.  There are other documentaries out there that cover the topics discussed in this one, but they do it well better.

 :fogetmmh:


Yeah, this thread isn't going to be received very well.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on December 09, 2007, 02:28:08 am
i think anyone with half a brain knows that the bible isn't real and jesus is a myth.

i mean, come on, the saviour of mankind, a jew???
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Doktormartini on December 09, 2007, 02:30:25 am
:fogetmmh:


Yeah, this thread isn't going to be received very well.
So I suck at typing big deal.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: tuxedo marx on December 09, 2007, 02:38:20 am
Yeah, this thread isn't going to be received very well.
hint: colloquialism
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Grin Tree on December 09, 2007, 02:58:29 am
hint: colloquialism

Oh, never heard it before in my life. 

EDIT:  Actually, not sure what you were referring to.  I was talking about DoktorMartini saying "well better."
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Wil on December 09, 2007, 03:27:04 am
hint: colloquialism
hint: peanut butter
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Ragnar on December 09, 2007, 03:54:38 pm
why does the topic title end with a comma

my brain is expecting CLOSURE but I'll never know what you intended to come after that comma
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Ryan on December 09, 2007, 04:06:27 pm
i bet those powerful bankers were jewish
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 09, 2007, 06:34:28 pm
This sounds like something made just to anoy christians (who are already annoying themselves).

And if christianism is wrong then what is right? Judaism? Islamism? No thanks!
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: dada on December 09, 2007, 06:50:56 pm
Take your Zionist conspiracy theory right back to the film forum, please.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Lyndon on December 09, 2007, 06:53:48 pm
This sounds like something made just to anoy christians (who are already annoying themselves).

And if christianism is wrong then what is right? Judaism? Islamism? No thanks!

watch it and you'll learn its all derived from peagan astrology
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: local_dunce on December 09, 2007, 07:57:01 pm
If I was a mod I would move this back to general.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 10, 2007, 05:18:47 am
I particually enjoy the part where many people are too immature to discuss anything.



great..
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on December 10, 2007, 07:35:48 pm
I particually enjoy the part where many people are too immature to discuss anything.



great..

If the subject involves controversy, it isn't worth discussing maturely.

It's practically law.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: tuxedo marx on December 10, 2007, 07:46:47 pm
EDIT:  Actually, not sure what you were referring to.  I was talking about DoktorMartini saying "well better."
As was I.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Bill Murray on December 10, 2007, 10:21:51 pm
I particually enjoy the part where many people are too immature to discuss anything.



great..
I don't think maturity has anything to do with this.

Anyway, I don't see this topic going anywhere, but I'll keep it open for the moment.
Title: Zeitgeist movie- Electronic media conspiracy theory,
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on December 18, 2007, 05:01:14 am
-jews use a lunar calendar
-ezekial 8:15-17 specifically condemns sun worship
-i'm pretty sure the 12 signs of the zodiac weren't around in the time of moses
-the new testament never refers to jesus as a fish? more often, a lamb

"However, the idea of a Law being passed from God to a prophet on a mountain is also a very old motif. Moses is just a law giver in a long line of law givers in mythological history. In India, Manou was the great law giver"

the laws of manu seemed to be relatively unimportant before british influence! also i don't remember him receiving them on a mountain from a god but idk maybe that's my memory

"And as far as the Ten Commandments, they are taken outright from Spell 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. What the Book of the Dead phrased "I have not stolen" became "Thou shall not steal," "I have not killed" became "Thou shall not kill," "I have not told lies" became "Thou shall not bare false witness" and so forth."

yeah this sounds about right if you ignore all the others that don't have a 10 commandment correspondant: http://www.philae.nu/akhet/Declaration.html
and a few that don't have book of the dead equivalents, honoring your parents, keeping the sabbath holy, covetry, idol worship and so forth

furthermore, moses lived in the pharohs household for a long period and the people he was commanding were also from egypt, why wouldn't he have simply used the egyptian law everyone was used to instead of calling it his own?

Quote
Joseph was a prototype for Jesus. Joseph was born of a miracle birth, Jesus was born of a miracle birth.  Joseph was of 12 brothers,  Jesus had 12 disciples.  Joseph was sold for 20 pieces of silver, Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver.  Brother "Judah" suggests the sale of Joseph,  disciple "Judas" suggests the sale of Jesus.  Joseph began his work at the age of 30, Jesus began his work at the age of 30.  The parallels go on and on.

joseph was of 12 brothers (meaning he had 11 brothers), jesus had brothers and sisters too but when he was 30 he had a team of 12 main disciples. Joseph was sold into slavery for 20 shekels of silver, jesus was identified by judas for 30 peices of silver. Jesus worked for his father as a carpenter, Joseph didn't do manual labour as he was favoured. Jesus was the saviour of all mankind, joseph helped egypt through a famine.
and the parallels go on and on

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Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It served to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit.
i never read this in the new testament but maybe it is hidden in between on the passages on loving your neighbour and the importance of fellowship and encouraging one another.
also since when did jesus teach blind submission to authority? when he was rebuking the pharisees maybe? or when he went on a rampage through the temple?

i watched most of the rest of the video too, but i agree that jewish bankers control the world and caused 9/11 so i didn't need any more ocnvincing *munches on carrot* *slurps down soya shake*