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Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 11, 2007, 10:10:14 pm
Has anyone here heard of amygdala clicking? Apparently, they are two almond shaped groups of neurons in your brain. "Clicking them" supposedly causes enhanced feelings of happiness and is supposed to make your brain work a lot better. I haven't actually tried this yet, but I found out about it and thought it was cool so I had to share it. If you try it, be sure to post what happens to you. Here are some links:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=4994
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygdala
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lord Kamina on December 11, 2007, 10:40:26 pm
No.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Wash Cycle on December 11, 2007, 10:45:15 pm
the amygdala controls primal emotions and the hypothalamus (so ultimately it controls sex, hunger and thirst drives)

I dont see the link between stimulating the amygdala and making your brain work better. if anything this would make you react in a really strange, unpredictable and extreme way

edit: made this post before reading the article. after reading the article.. its still bullshit but for different reasons
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: ase on December 11, 2007, 10:49:27 pm
No.
The OP may not have included a very detailed post explaining his "discovery," but this is not the type of post we're looking for to help get discussion moving. Please don't post if you don't have more to add to the discussion

protip: "THIS IS GAY THE AMYGDALA IS GAY YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT THAT WEBSITE IS BULLSHIT HERE ARE SOME LINKS PROVING THAT YOU ARE WRONG: link1 (http://google.com) link1 (http://google.com)" is an acceptable post
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lord Kamina on December 11, 2007, 10:49:38 pm
The limbic system is not entirely controlled by the conscious brain. Additionally, from what little I read on wiki (I'm rusty on my Neuroanatomy), the amygdala has an important effect in triggering the sympathetic trunk... Trying to mess with the brain isn't a good idea, EVER.

Especially because really little is actually known about the brain. I have to say, It's the only part of our anatomy where I have actually seen a table in a text describing parts and function and I have encountered ??? listed as function. Once again, this was on a medical text.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: dada on December 11, 2007, 10:56:37 pm
This is exactly the kind of stuff on the Internet that you should not trust.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 11, 2007, 10:59:45 pm
One time I tried to click my amygdala and I ended up in the intensive care unit and had to have half of my brain removed. Do not do attempt to do this.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Hundley on December 11, 2007, 11:02:21 pm
so if i stick my nose in a piece of shit and then stick it in a rose i will be in control of a "million" things

WHO KNEW????????????????????????????????????
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Ragnar on December 11, 2007, 11:07:35 pm
Amygdala Clicking would be a good name for the next Venetian Snares album

And I say that because even if it did do something I bet it would give you a seizure
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 11, 2007, 11:21:17 pm
I actually did this when I used to try doing astral projections, I heard it was supposed to develop clairvoyance and even thought it didn't have the effects I expected it's a rather good meditation technique in my opinion, you people should try it
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: crone_lover720 on December 11, 2007, 11:34:20 pm
I thought the clicking was going to be something like the bloop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop) or the slow down (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Down_(unidentified_sound)) but instead it's just dumb :(
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Sarah on December 12, 2007, 12:46:27 am
Omcifer, you're all about this HOW THE BRAIN WORKS stuff huh? You made the right/left brain thread in Q&A.

Are you studying psychology or something along those lines?
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 12, 2007, 12:52:55 am
Omcifer, you're all about this HOW THE BRAIN WORKS stuff huh? You made the right/left brain thread in Q&A.

Are you studying psychology or something along those lines?
No, I'm not. It's kind of odd, really. Recently I have taken an interest in human intelligence and the brain. Maybe a psychologist could be a sure career for me, who knows?  :drwily:
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Brown on December 12, 2007, 04:23:29 am
this is old news, it works thats all that matters. For me its calming and "untiring" if that makes sense. Im usually tired, even personality wise. but when i mentally do this i get pretty aware of my surroundings.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: ThugTears666 on December 12, 2007, 04:41:42 am
I find this stuff particually interesting, I actually saved the homepage so I can read more later. Thanks.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Shadow Kirby on December 12, 2007, 06:04:58 am
I'd rather trust Lord Kamina who studied that shit then lol wikipedia and a site called saltcube.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Sarhan on December 12, 2007, 08:04:25 am
I'd rather trust Lord Kamina who studied that shit then lol wikipedia and a site called saltcube.

Right. Because one guy who goes to GW knows more than a community of intellectuals (plus a few morons here and there).

Also:

The limbic system is not entirely controlled by the conscious brain. Additionally, from what little I read on wiki (I'm rusty on my Neuroanatomy), the amygdala has an important effect in triggering the sympathetic trunk... Trying to mess with the brain isn't a good idea, EVER.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Wil on December 12, 2007, 08:15:09 am
I'll add some Amygdala Clicking practice alongside my daily Psi exercises.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lars on December 12, 2007, 01:32:02 pm
Right. Because one guy who goes to GW knows more than a community of intellectuals (plus a few morons here and there).
No offence, but I wouldn't consider Wikipedia a community of intellectuals. All the knowledge you get on wikipedia, in the end, barely scratches any surface, and is far too shallow for the waters any intellectuals would thread. Intellectuals are the ones that give lectures, discuss matters on a high levels, write in-depth books about certain topics. Although Wikipedia is a great source of knowledge, it's not a community of intellectuals. It's a community of people that take the works of intellectuals, and writes their interpretations of what they think is the most important and easiest understandable parts... that sentence sure came out wrong but whatever, too busy to look up dictionaries and get my wording right.

My point is, if you read any in-depth university books and read the wikipedia article on what you're reading, you'll notice that one single line on wikipedia alone could be an 800-page book. Wikipedia is popular science no matter how you put it, and it's probably the best place for that. But a community of intellectuals? Come on... It merely scratches the surface, not something a community of intellectuals would bother doing.


Sorry for the off-topic rant :(
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: local_dunce on December 12, 2007, 01:45:17 pm
I also heard that smashing your face off your computer desk until your eyes bleed is a great way to stimulate the pain receptors in your face.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lord Kamina on December 12, 2007, 02:23:38 pm
Right. Because one guy who goes to GW knows more than a community of intellectuals (plus a few morons here and there).

I am studying medicine and I had a Neuroanatomy course last semester.
Now, what I'm saying is that even if this stuff works it's complete bullshit and most likely psychosomatic. It's never a good idea to tamper or attempt to tamper with your brain. If the damned thing was so simple, we'd already have good A.I.s.

In short... If anything, it might work because you are meditating and calming yourself... The whole amygdala shit is just pseudo-science to help and trigger that. Now, some stupid kid might (And most probably would) get the wrong idea and could try to stick a probe up his nose in order to "click" his actual brain.

Omcifer: If you really are interested in the human brain, you could study Medicine (Neurology), in the meantime... I suggest you take a hold of "John Martin's Neuroanatomy."
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Ragnar on December 12, 2007, 02:58:47 pm
lol I made a song called Amygdala Clicking just because it sounds so cool
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on December 12, 2007, 05:20:30 pm
I already know how to meditate, and I don't trust shortcuts.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Sarhan on December 12, 2007, 06:18:56 pm
No offence, but I wouldn't consider Wikipedia a community of intellectuals. All the knowledge you get on wikipedia, in the end, barely scratches any surface, and is far too shallow for the waters any intellectuals would thread. Intellectuals are the ones that give lectures, discuss matters on a high levels, write in-depth books about certain topics. Although Wikipedia is a great source of knowledge, it's not a community of intellectuals. It's a community of people that take the works of intellectuals, and writes their interpretations of what they think is the most important and easiest understandable parts... that sentence sure came out wrong but whatever, too busy to look up dictionaries and get my wording right.

My point is, if you read any in-depth university books and read the wikipedia article on what you're reading, you'll notice that one single line on wikipedia alone could be an 800-page book. Wikipedia is popular science no matter how you put it, and it's probably the best place for that. But a community of intellectuals? Come on... It merely scratches the surface, not something a community of intellectuals would bother doing.

Sorry for the off-topic rant :(

I guess I used the wrong term. I didn't mean intellectuals the way you perceived it. I'm not talking about some bored guy with a PhD sitting at home typing up articles on wikipedia. A lot of the guys who do actually contribute to wikipedia are fairly well educated though. I think you said it best:

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It's a community of people that take the works of intellectuals, and writes their interpretations of what they think is the most important and easiest understandable parts

Even if they weren't well educated, their information comes from reliable sources (for the most part) so it's not any less valuable than most websites out there. Anyways, I was just trying to argue the whole "wikipedia isn't reliable" idea that a lot of people seem to have.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: dada on December 12, 2007, 07:29:39 pm
No offence, but I wouldn't consider Wikipedia a community of intellectuals. All the knowledge you get on wikipedia, in the end, barely scratches any surface, and is far too shallow for the waters any intellectuals would thread. Intellectuals are the ones that give lectures, discuss matters on a high levels, write in-depth books about certain topics.
Let's not get into whether Wikipedia is a good or bad resource again, please. This topic isn't about that. (Besides, the point of Wikipedia is to be a concise encyclopedia rather than an all-encompassing compendium, so it's not surprising that they don't have much on the intrinsic details of whatever topics you're reading.)

I really would not take a community like Saltcube very seriously. If you're going to attempt anything they suggest, do it after you figure out whether there's any scientific backing that says it's safe to do so. You can get yourself messed up real bad if you do the wrong stuff, and no matter how strong your body is, there's always some way to efficiently break it.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Frisky SKeleton on December 12, 2007, 08:25:51 pm
this is just a meditation excercise, it can't harm your brain and if anything is probably a little good for you (relaxin' etc). it'd probably work but their explanations about actual neuroanatomy are irrelevant
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Ragnar on December 12, 2007, 08:39:35 pm
I'll stick to binaural beat generators
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: JohnnyCasil on December 12, 2007, 08:47:38 pm
this is just a meditation exercises, it can't harm your brain and if anything is probably a little good for you (relaxin' etc). it'd probably work but their explanations about actual neuroanatomy are irrelevant

I've done numerous meditation exercises in the past, and I agree with this completely.  After reading the technique in the website it is no different than any other new-age way to "unlock" some sort of higher self.  You aren't actually "clicking" anything, you are merely imagining it.  Any mental benefits would be nothing more than the effects of meditating.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: xanque on December 12, 2007, 09:04:12 pm
No offence, but I wouldn't consider Wikipedia a community of intellectuals. All the knowledge you get on wikipedia, in the end, barely scratches any surface, and is far too shallow for the waters any intellectuals would thread. Intellectuals are the ones that give lectures, discuss matters on a high levels, write in-depth books about certain topics. Although Wikipedia is a great source of knowledge, it's not a community of intellectuals. It's a community of people that take the works of intellectuals, and writes their interpretations of what they think is the most important and easiest understandable parts... that sentence sure came out wrong but whatever, too busy to look up dictionaries and get my wording right.

My point is, if you read any in-depth university books and read the wikipedia article on what you're reading, you'll notice that one single line on wikipedia alone could be an 800-page book. Wikipedia is popular science no matter how you put it, and it's probably the best place for that. But a community of intellectuals? Come on... It merely scratches the surface, not something a community of intellectuals would bother doing.


Sorry for the off-topic rant :(
Have you seen the article for minor Star Wars characters?  Sadly, I have...
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on December 13, 2007, 03:51:15 am
this is just a meditation excercise, it can't harm your brain and if anything is probably a little good for you (relaxin' etc). it'd probably work but their explanations about actual neuroanatomy are irrelevant


There are known potential risks associated with meditation.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Brown on December 13, 2007, 05:50:11 am
oh crap completely forgot. sorry guys but that post i made

Quote from: ' me
this is old news' date=' it works thats all that matters. For me its calming and "untiring" if that makes sense. Im usually tired, even personality wise. but when i mentally do this i get pretty aware of my surroundings[/quote']

was complete bullshit. I was baked at the time i made that post and was building up to a joke. dont remember the joke. but again sorry
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Evangel on December 13, 2007, 05:52:11 am
Smoking a bigass doobie clicks my amygdala.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on December 13, 2007, 07:37:19 pm
There are known potential risks associated with meditation.

The only thing "known potential risk" means is that it isn't 100% foolproof.

If you aren't a 100% fool, then you are going to be fine.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 13, 2007, 08:48:37 pm
There are known potential risks associated with meditation.

LMFAO then please list them
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Wash Cycle on December 13, 2007, 08:51:36 pm
There are known potential risks associated with meditation.
what do you mean... like uh... strained ligaments in your knees or something?
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 13, 2007, 09:29:21 pm
I'm not totally sure, but I think that he was trying to be sarcastic.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on December 14, 2007, 01:13:36 am
I'm not totally sure, but I think that he was trying to be sarcastic.
No, I wasn't being sarcastic. Although the risks are small, and more common in certain forms of meditation than others, there have been cases where people have experienced prolonged dissociation, out-of-body experiences, undesirable repressed memories surfacing, feelings of panic and anxiety afterwards, et cetera. I'll find some links if you REALLY want them, but you can mostly google this stuff yourselves.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 14, 2007, 01:22:56 am
out-of-body experiences

This isn't a risk, this is a major benefit
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on December 14, 2007, 01:24:19 am
This isn't a risk, this is a major benefit
Some people do not want to leave their bodies unexpectedly.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 14, 2007, 03:39:37 am
Speaking of OBEs, you said you were into Astral Projection, Inri. Have you ever been successful, if so then describe your experiences. I ask this because I want to do it, but it seems a little frightening.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 14, 2007, 04:04:43 am
Some people do not want to leave their bodies unexpectedly.

Like when they're undergoing a surgery or they suffer an accident? When it happens like this it's usually benefical.

Speaking of OBEs, you said you were into Astral Projection, Inri. Have you ever been successful, if so then describe your experiences. I ask this because I want to do it, but it seems a little frightening.

I don't know, when I tried it I could induce the "feelings of leaving the body", I'd hear a weird sound that sounded like something humming or pulsating, I'd feel I was vibrating etc, but then I became impatient and stopped everything, maybe out of a subconscious fear or something like that. But in reality there's nothing to be frightened about as it is completely harmless
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 14, 2007, 04:23:53 am
Yeah the sounds and vibrations are supposed to be an indicator that you are in the phase right before leaving your body. They say you can do crazy stuff in astral projection. Like go to actual other places, such as the house of somebody and describe it to them, because your astral self is actually there.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Paragon on December 14, 2007, 07:35:53 am
Congratulations, even if you've brought up some magical bullshit pseudoscience and actually had people who believe in it respond (this is all a major sin), you have inspired musicians, and there is no greater act.

You bring joy to all our ears.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Wash Cycle on December 14, 2007, 07:34:23 pm
No, I wasn't being sarcastic. Although the risks are small, and more common in certain forms of meditation than others, there have been cases where people have experienced prolonged dissociation, out-of-body experiences, undesirable repressed memories surfacing, feelings of panic and anxiety afterwards, et cetera. I'll find some links if you REALLY want them, but you can mostly google this stuff yourselves.
these are the kind of things that happen when you're a dumbass teenager and you read a how-to meditate on the internet and dont follow proper mystical teaching and practice and you do some wrong shit and end up fucking up big time. coincidentally it also happens to really high level buddhist monks and stuff like that (ala the kundalini syndrome) when they do everything correctly way too much

I guess my point here is that the shit you describe only happens in extreme circumstances and if you do everything right it should never happen that way
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 14, 2007, 07:58:58 pm
Risks are pretty much associated with everything anyhow. Like, you can break your neck and die while falling down a set of stairs.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on December 14, 2007, 08:04:00 pm
these are the kind of things that happen when you're a dumbass teenager and you read a how-to meditate on the internet and dont follow proper mystical teaching and practice and you do some wrong shit and end up fucking up big time. coincidentally it also happens to really high level buddhist monks and stuff like that (ala the kundalini syndrome) when they do everything correctly way too much

I guess my point here is that the shit you describe only happens in extreme circumstances and if you do everything right it should never happen that way

Yes, this is basically what I'm saying (although I don't think the circumstances need to be very extreme from what I've read). So I'm not sure what the point of repeating it really is. All I'm trying to say is that it isn't all good and wonderful and people should know a) there are possible risks, however small, and b) what those risks are.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Evangel on December 15, 2007, 03:38:07 am
Damn, those binaural beats are pretty freaky sounding.  I'm gonna have to sit down one day and try to achieve OBE, despite the risks.  I'm guessing it's like a lucid dream, which is pretty fun shit.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lord Kamina on December 15, 2007, 04:28:31 am
God, do I hate pseudo-science.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on December 15, 2007, 08:42:59 am
Damn, those binaural beats are pretty freaky sounding.  I'm gonna have to sit down one day and try to achieve OBE, despite the risks.  I'm guessing it's like a lucid dream, which is pretty fun shit.
Actually I've achieved really deep states of meditation using these. I'm not sure if it is directly due to them or not, but it was cool.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on December 15, 2007, 01:50:22 pm
God, do I hate pseudo-science.
Which of the stuff that we are discussing do you consider to be false?
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Lord Kamina on December 15, 2007, 03:55:39 pm
Out of body experiences, mainly...
Such bullshit.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Wash Cycle on December 15, 2007, 04:29:23 pm
Out of body experiences, mainly...
Such bullshit.
oh really. what evidence do you have (that you havent had one or something?)
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Mince Wobley on December 15, 2007, 04:33:24 pm
Wash Cycle this is called something like putting the burden of proof on someone else, do not do this, just ignore Lord Kamina. One day or another he'll have one and think it was just an hallucination, but he'll believe they are real some day.
Title: Amygdala Clicking
Post by: Shadow Kirby on December 18, 2007, 05:28:25 am
Shit guys. While we're at it, let's talk about the possible dangers of telekinesis or levitation.
I can't believe some of you believe in that shit.