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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: Tau on December 30, 2007, 04:57:02 am
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Birth by Sleep focuses on the story of Keyblade masters before Sora from the original Kingdom Hearts game[7] and is a prequel, taking place ten years before the original Kingdom Hearts.[8] Nomura has stated that though there are three scenarios, there is not one singularly important scenario or character, but that the main theme is Ven's identity.[6] The story was speculated early on to be connected to the unlockable trailers at the end of Kingdom Hearts II and Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix.[9] Nomura has since confirmed a connection to the trailers.[10] The story revolves around three Keyblade apprentices in search of a missing Keyblade master, Master Xehanort,[1] and his apprentice.[3] Their disappearance foreshadows a great disaster.[1] The game will take place in various Disney-themed worlds, both new and old, and will reflect the time difference between this game and the previous Kingdom Hearts games.[6][10] Other worlds featured are from Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella.
NEW SCREENS!!
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The only milk from the Kingdom Hearts cash cow that looks pretty stellar. I'm not too keen on (insert math problem here) Days or Coded, but this is the milk 'n' honey of it all, IMO
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Is it just me or does this look very similar to Crisis Core, especially the first and last two screens? The guy in the first two screens looks like Zack.
It looks okay. I'm not a fan of the KH series (although the first one was okay) so I'm not really excited about this, but it looks decent.
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Your pretty right and the other d00d looks like a Roxas clone. Nomura must be running out of ideas IMO
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YES BABY!
Dude! Wheres the fcking links man, dont make topics like these and then not post links.
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Your pretty right and the other d00d looks like a Roxas clone. Nomura must be running out of ideas IMO
I thought the other guy was supposed to be Roxas?
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No, Roxas's game is that funky number one. This is the guy from Final Mix+'s secret ending. His name was confirmed I think, but it escapes me. There might be a reason he looks like Roxas though...
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No, Roxas's game is that funky number one. This is the guy from Final Mix+'s secret ending. His name was confirmed I think, but it escapes me. There might be a reason he looks like Roxas though...
so you're saying the roxas in the third screenshot only "looks" like roxas and isnt roxas?
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Yes. This is a prequel, while Roxas was created between the timeframe of the two main games (or so I remember, it has been ages)
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so that character who has roxas' exact face and model isn't roxas?
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Not to my knowledge it isn't :\ Unless that screenshot came from the DS game, I'm 90% positive that isn't Roxas. If not, my mistake, but I'm almost certain it isn't.
EDIT: It is NOT Roxas. His name is Ven and the Zack-looking guy is Terra. The final character, Aqua, is the female not shown.
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this guy. this isn't roxas?
sorry but i cant really believe someone is trying to say it isnt roxas when it is the same face. kh isn't really known for it's unbendable story, they could very easily introduce some kind of time travel thing or a change-into-other-keymasters thing if they wanted to.
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so its exactly the same and does nothing new for the series except change the time it takes place and who you play
and no donald/goofy
well ok
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also reading up on kh cashins, kh coded sounds amazing
play as king mickey and debug blocks to move towards the enemy!!
edit:
Nomura had also stated that the name "Ven" is an alias, and his real name is longer.
In the Japanese version of Birth by Sleep, Ven will be voiced by Koki Uchiyama, who also voices Roxas.
oh come on
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To restate my edit, his name is Ven. He is actually to be voiced in Japan by the same guy as Roxas. I believe there is a link between him and Roxas but I can now say with 105% confidence that he is not Roxas.
handsome lamb: Who is really to say, it is supposed to have a lot to do with Xehanort, but who really can say, other than Nomura and his team...
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i believe the link may be he is actually roxas.
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But that would contradict 358/2 Days :\ I mean Roxas only exists in the continuum between Sora becoming a heartless at Hallow Bastion to Sora's reawakening a year or so after.
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oh no we cant have any contradicting/convoluted storylines concerning the very simple character of roxas :(
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To restate my edit, his name is Ven. He is actually to be voiced in Japan by the same guy as Roxas. I believe there is a link between him and Roxas but I can now say with 105% confidence that he is not Roxas.
handsome lamb: Who is really to say, it is supposed to have a lot to do with Xehanort, but who really can say, other than Nomura and his team...
same ui
probably same controls
probably adds some new gay mechanicism to be hyped tons (hello forms), that really aren't that AMAZING anyways (hello forms again)
i bet there will be a sephiroth fight too for some random reason
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Why would they? It would only lead to confusion when people play BbS and 358/2. I'm not ruling it out as a possibility, but it seems highly unlikely.
The way I see it, it is more likely for Roxas to be HIM than him to be Roxas, if that makes much sense.
lamb: You have a point, after all, it seems to me more like they are milking the series. They'll probably just tack on extras and say its a new game :\
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Why would they? It would only lead to confusion when people play BbS and 358/2. I'm not ruling it out as a possibility, but it seems highly unlikely.
The way I see it, it is more likely for Roxas to be HIM than him to be Roxas, if that makes much sense.
lamb: You have a point, after all, it seems to me more like they are milking the series. They'll probably just tack on extras and say its a new game :\
not surprised
*coughcoughFINALFANTASY7coughcough*
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same ui
probably same controls
probably adds some new gay mechanicism to be hyped tons (hello forms), that really aren't that AMAZING anyways (hello forms again)
i bet there will be a sephiroth fight too for some random reason
but you cant have a sephiroth fight this is set before the current continuality sephiroth wouldnt be born yet
stop saying things that couldnt possibly make sense damn you!!
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but you cant have a sephiroth fight this is set before the current continuality sephiroth wouldnt be born yet
stop saying things that couldnt possibly make sense damn you!!
buster i dont know if you've noticed (idiot) but (dumbass) mr. Nomura says on page 71 of the latest GameTech Pro Japan (you have that one right?) that his name is Jessica, and he's voiced by Lance Bass again
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Not a movie? Not interested. I can only play the same game so many times before losing absolute interest (ie once).
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I would think that this is to KH as Crisis Core is to FF7. To be honest, I have no idea how the FF/Disney continuity will work, but there is most likely continuity between the original concepts.
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Really now? Was anyone really ever that interested in the backstory of KH? Because unlike Crisis Core... this looks like continuity porn (prequels still count) and nothing more.
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Really now? Was anyone really ever that interested in the backstory of KH? Because unlike Crisis Core... looks like continuity porn (prequels still count) and nothing more.
maybe its just me but KH was kind of like a fighting game in the regard it could make some horribly cliche excuse to make anything happen and no one should really care
KH is just about some girly guy with a phallic weapon trying to stop another girly guy from getting some very unmanly thing (kingdom hearts) with a bunch of idiots
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darknecrid's penis actually looks like a key.
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darknecrid's penis actually looks like a key.
actually it looks more like that baseball bat thing you get in #2 at the start
its blue too
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There are those few... well... "hardcores" that get all pissy over it, but I'm just saying, you'd think a quality* company like Square Enix would address that, am I right?
maybe its just me but KH was kind of like a fighting game in the regard it could make some horribly cliche excuse to make anything happen and no one should really care
KH is just about some girly guy with a phallic weapon trying to stop another girly guy from getting some very unmanly thing (kingdom hearts) with a bunch of idiots
This.
*I couldn't keep a straight face saying that...
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Wasn't Roxas, Sora's Nobody?, Everyone that is turned into a heartless has 2 copies, One heartless, Nobody, and Roxas was Sora's Nobody, and so since Sora became a heartless in KH1, so Roxas was created then, then maybe the guy in that pic isnt THAT Roxas, maybe someone else?
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As other people just stated.
My vote goes to this being Sora's dad.
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Heartless / nobodies can travel through time I bet......
that's why the come from the floors
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Is it just me or does this look very similar to Crisis Core, especially the first and last two screens? The guy in the first two screens looks like Zack.
Because this game was built using the Crisis Core engine. There's a reason Square spent so much money and resources on it.
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Well I did not know Lance Bass voiced Sephiroth.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
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Man I thought this was some really crappy topic title, I didn't know BIRTH BY SLEEP was the actual subtitle for the game.
What a terrible title.
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Because this game was built using the Crisis Core engine. There's a reason Square spent so much money and resources on it.
That makes a lot of sense. I had no idea they spent a lot of cash on the engine. I really haven't been following SE lately.
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That's a gay game.
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That's a gay game.
lol drule one liner about opinion on something
I don't think this looks too bad, the guy that looks like Roxas does...really really look like roxas, and I really really hope he doesnt end up being roxas, because lol then the game will make less sense than final fantasy x-2\
but I'll still play it, I think kh is fuckin' fun
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I also agree that the Roxas look-a-like is Sora father.
The Zack look-a-like is prolly connected to Ansem and/or Riku in some way.
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I think it's about time we get the next chapter in the Kingdom Hearts saga. I really hope this one clears up a few of the loose ends from the previous games, like Scrooge McDuck's (magic?) crystal, Goofy's connection to the Dark Keyblade, and the silhouette that looked SUSPICIOUSLY like Minnie Mouse in Sephiroth's castle. I also hope we get to see a conclusion to Barret and Donald Duck's rivalry, but I think that's just wishful thinking at this point.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Ven's hair color is the EXACT same as Pluto's? That seems more than just a little suspicious to me.
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I actually thought Chef's post was serious until I read Sephiroth's castle.
Now I feel like a fucking idiot.
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Man I thought this was some really crappy topic title, I didn't know BIRTH BY SLEEP was the actual subtitle for the game.
What a terrible title.
I honestly think Squenix is purposefully using bad titles of the series. The game itself (KINGDOM HEARTS) sounds like a badly translated engrish anime so they're probably just rolling with it and playing along.
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I honestly think Squenix is purposefully using bad titles of the series. The game itself (KINGDOM HEARTS) sounds like a badly translated engrish anime so they're probably just rolling with it and playing along.
That's true, I hadn't really thought about how bad of a title Kingdom Hearts is, it's one of those things you've heard everywhere and never really thought about.
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I think it's about time we get the next chapter in the Kingdom Hearts saga. I really hope this one clears up a few of the loose ends from the previous games, like Scrooge McDuck's (magic?) crystal, Goofy's connection to the Dark Keyblade, and the silhouette that looked SUSPICIOUSLY like Minnie Mouse in Sephiroth's castle. I also hope we get to see a conclusion to Barret and Donald Duck's rivalry, but I think that's just wishful thinking at this point.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Ven's hair color is the EXACT same as Pluto's? That seems more than just a little suspicious to me.
LOL! Oh man, this is hilarious because of the way you create mock conspiracies to poke fun at all the people who actually like the game and point out stuff like that XD.
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LOL it's hard to decipher what this all means. You can bet it is something gay like Ven is a shadow of Sora's inner self in the past through some marooned image amid the space/time continuum and that you play as Roxas in a middlin stage between now and then and here and what so that it all comes to the final battle where you can fix things by closing the Kingdom Hearts. :D There I solved it.
EDIT: I will be pre-ordering this game regardless, because KH is tight.
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Nobody actually said which platform this is for? If it's PSP, then the graphics are at least pretty impressive.
I actually really liked the original Kingdom Hearts because it was fun to explore the areas and pound hordes of enemies. Some of the boss fights were epic, too. The second game didn't really grab me, but I would still probably play this.
But I'm with Chef; the writing is absolutely the stupidest shit ever and I can't believe that anyone bothers to take it seriously. I'm certain that Nomura or whoever makes the decisions inserts random nonsense, and that in the original Japanese versions it's completely hillarious and everyone is in on the joke.
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its PSP.
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BTW, Birth By Sleep?
They're not gonna make the story conclusion all like "THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY A DREAM", right?
It's the only thing I can think of when I think of something like "Birth By Sleep".
Horrible title.
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I am pretty sure it's in reference to those gay pods that Sora and crew go into at the end of CoM.
So yeah it's probably a dream, or some sort of OFFSHOOT REALITY based off of sora/roxas' dream.
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Or there's more Tidus.
I wonder how many people will get this.
I guess we'll see when the game gets released, finished and leaked.
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This is in reference to my last post but it's been too long for me to edit it so
I was thinking that since this is a prequel, and from the video, the world seems to be PRETTY DESTROYED as a baron wasteland. I kind of think that they are going to try and make it so the roxas (Ven?) we see here gets into one of those pods/just falls asleep and has dreamed up the reality we've seen in the last three games.
It's already convoluted as shit so I don't think they can really do more harm by adding a plot like that.
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This is in reference to my last post but it's been too long for me to edit it so
I was thinking that since this is a prequel, and from the video, the world seems to be PRETTY DESTROYED as a baron wasteland. I kind of think that they are going to try and make it so the roxas (Ven?) we see here gets into one of those pods/just falls asleep and has dreamed up the reality we've seen in the last three games.
It's already convoluted as shit so I don't think they can really do more harm by adding a plot like that.
giving birth to a world...by sleep...
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LOL! Oh man, this is hilarious because of the way you create mock conspiracies to poke fun at all the people who actually like the game and point out stuff like that XD.
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37686/ss-022_1.jpg)
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If you ask me, the Horned King, angered at the fact that Disney has completely ignored him for the past 20 years, returns from the pit of the black cauldron and wreaks hell on the world. Afterwards, Captain Jack Sparrow and Peter Pan make out while Bagheera, Jaffar, and Rafiki ponder over how their characters are blatant racial stereotypes.
I also hope we get to see a conclusion to Barret and Donald Duck's rivalry, but I think that's just wishful thinking at this point.
I'm more interested in the love triangle between the animated brooms from Fantasia, Locke, and that half naked white haired chick from Atlantis.
Is it just me or does Disney have A LOT of IPs they haven't touched yet?
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LOL!! That's hilarious because it's Mickey.. and he's wearing a robe!!
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that's not mickey it's minnie.
british fag.
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It's Mickey, sounds like someone doesn't remember their KH2 playthrough..
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Someone doesn't get the joke.
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Roxas with new clothes and a Riku clone. Yay.
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LOL!! That's hilarious because it's Mickey.. and he's wearing a robe!!
As if it wasn't.
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That's a gay game.
i'm glad someone agrees that this is a horrible, horrible series
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I REALLY hope they turn up the difficulty in this one, because in the last three games it felt like all you had to do was press X repeatedly after about halfway through the game and move when you had to. Oh, and they'd better stop throwing in random cameos that never really develop past ZOMG IT'S THAT PERSON I KNOW FROM THAT MOVIE/GAME. Oh, and a change in game play would be nice. Or at least something to spice it up. It's getting ridiculously boring.
To be honest, I'm really pissed they're making so many of these games. The series should have ended with KH2 and they shouldn't have thrown in all that garbage about the Key blade wars or whatever the hell in that secret scene.
Even though I hate that they're just milking the series, I hope this game's good. >.<
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I REALLY hope they turn up the difficulty in this one, because in the last three games it felt like all you had to do was press X repeatedly after about halfway through the game and move when you had to. Oh, and they'd better stop throwing in random cameos that never really develop past ZOMG IT'S THAT PERSON I KNOW FROM THAT MOVIE/GAME. Oh, and a change in game play would be nice. Or at least something to spice it up. It's getting ridiculously boring.
To be honest, I'm really pissed they're making so many of these games. The series should have ended with KH2 and they shouldn't have thrown in all that garbage about the Key blade wars or whatever the hell in that secret scene.
Even though I hate that they're just milking the series, I hope this game's good. >.<
The 1000 Heartless battle was the worst
like initially it sounds cool, 1 guy vs 1000 enemys
but then you realize the entire battle is just hit /\.
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MORE New Screens!!
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And it seems that the Roxas clone is named.. Ven or something.
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Lol, the third screenshot looks like a bald Ansem lol...
"To be honest, I'm really pissed they're making so many of these games. The series should have ended with KH2 and they shouldn't have thrown in all that garbage about the Key blade wars or whatever the hell in that secret scene."
I have to say that I think they're turning Kingdom Hearts into Final Fantasy... The first KH, good, Disney feel, good story, relatively fun... KH2, more Final Fantasy-ish, as in, clothes turned into some gothic/Squall suit, and the story slides a bit into something you'd see in Final Fantasy... And now they're making all this stuff about the Key Blade Wars? Why can't they just leave it at KH2 lol, the ending was good, and it basically finished it, except the unexplained events that occurred, which would, if they finished at KH2, leave you wondering.
Also, I never got this, but if it said the only thing that can hurt the Heartless was the Keyblade, howcome Donald and Goofy can hurt them aswell?
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"To be honest, I'm really pissed they're making so many of these games. The series should have ended with KH2 and they shouldn't have thrown in all that garbage about the Key blade wars or whatever the hell in that secret scene."
Well, this is Square we are talking about. It's no surprise or anything.
I like both KH1 and KH2 but for some reason I'm just not interested at all.
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Also, I never got this, but if it said the only thing that can hurt the Heartless was the Keyblade, howcome Donald and Goofy can hurt them aswell?
Perhaps it's because they're the COMRADES OF THE ONE CHOSEN BY THE KEYBLADE.
And stuff.
EDIT: And the stuff about the guy looking like Roxas being Ven was already brought to the light, Eijin.
And I think the bald guy looks more like a bald version of Xehanort's Heartless, but I'm sure that's what you meant.
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oh and yeah even though i like kh im also not interested in this in the slightest because the only fun thing about kh was the upbeat disney-focused story, if they replace that with even more original (and terrible) characters then it has nothing going for it.
i mean yeah kh2 did get very stupid anime crap in the start and the end, but the middle was ok. the first one was pretty fun all the way through.
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This is in reference to my last post but it's been too long for me to edit it so
I was thinking that since this is a prequel, and from the video, the world seems to be PRETTY DESTROYED as a baron wasteland. I kind of think that they are going to try and make it so the roxas (Ven?) we see here gets into one of those pods/just falls asleep and has dreamed up the reality we've seen in the last three games.
It's already convoluted as shit so I don't think they can really do more harm by adding a plot like that.
this wouldn't make too much sense, unless Mickey existed outside of the "dreamed up world", because it showed him staring at a battlefield at the end of the secret video at the end of kh2 final mix.........................
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this wouldn't make too much sense, unless Mickey existed outside of the "dreamed up world", because it showed him staring at a battlefield at the end of the secret video at the end of kh2 final mix.........................
He could, since Roxas /Ven(?) exists in both. I have dreams with people I know in them.
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He could, since Roxas /Ven(?) exists in both. I have dreams with people I know in them.
hmmm, touche................
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This is coming out for psp right?
If so then just download it... With the lack of the right analog stick, the camera could get pretty gay...
Wait what did the R1 etc do in KH, I can't remember...
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r1 was lock on, l1 was magic menu... l2 changed right anolog stick to menu controls and r2.... did r2 do anything?