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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: ThugTears666 on January 07, 2008, 07:06:30 am
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Well well I just aquired a copy of FF online and for the first time ever since I joined gw I have a faster connection than 56k so I am pretty keen to play it.
However it is massive to install and you have to pay cashmoney! So just curious is the game itself any good? I've never heard anyone mention it much so I'm unsure whether ff online is worth getting into.
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It's an MMORPG... so no. As a stand alone game... it can't be any good. The 'gameplay' is designed for you to grind your ass off to farm monies and exps for an extended amount of time (ie months) and there is very little in the way of content that can be experianced without getting your shit together first. And that takes months. The game is designed to keep your subscription up by forcing you through obscene grinds for exps and monies. To play test different classes and builds. That sort of thing. The only redeeming factors mmorpgs have are in their communities... and if you don't enjoy the competitive/ drama/ etc aspects of them... you will get bored of the game really soon. Long before experiencing the what the game truly has to offer.
I happen to like that sort of thing.... but I would never recommend these types of games. Feel free to ask around for a high rate private server though. Not only is it free.... but it gives you a better idea as to what you are getting into.
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NEVER
EVER
touch this game
I'm sorry but it sucks. It really does. I know some people here will say NO DS UR WRONG but it sucks. It's tedious as fuck, it takes forever to do anything and after first 10-15 levels or so, soloing gets impossible so you are forced to party with other players. Sometimes this can mean waiting 2 hours for a party only to find leveling is really slow because 1) the game sucks and 2) your party sucks.
Also, the world is really bland. You can't jump, swim or do anything like that. There's little to no exploration in FF11, it's all about finding a spot where to grind mobs. The story is apparently very good (I never got that far in it) but there aren't that many story related missions to make it worth hundreds of hours of UGH NO MORE PLEASE.
By the way, I never got past level 30. People always say the game gets better after level 30. I don't really see why though. I play loads of RPG's (my fav genre) and I couldn't stand the game to get to 30. I liked it for the first 50 hours or so and then it just got more and more boring. I suppose there are some good things about it too, like it's pretty challenging and has great OST but overall, it is not worth it. It is so not worth it.
EDIT: Actually I have heard the game has changed (a lot) since I played it so it might be better now. But if you want to play a MMORPG, WoW is so much better. Or you could wait for Age of Conan, it's coming out in 2-3 months and looks promising.
Also, nothing is more fun than waiting 12 minutes for a ship to arrive and then spending another 12 minutes on the ship. And then you'll realize that you actually spent half an hour doing absolutely nothing.
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I played FFXI for a pretty damn long time. If you're a patient person, it's a fairly fun game.
The first 10 levels will be you soloing for the most part. Around level 10-12, you head out and start partying, which is the primary method of gaining EXP from then on, unless you happen to be a Red Mage or Beastmaster (have to be level 30 with one job to unlock Beastmaster). If you do decide to solo, it'll be slower than partying. Leveling is a pain sometimes and you'll occasionally find yourself looking for a party for a long time, unless you happen to be one of the more necessary classes (White/Red/Black Mage, Bard, Paladin, and occasionally Thief). However, this isn't really an issue until you start getting into the later levels (around 35-40-ish). I've had times when I'd be on for two hours looking for a group without any luck (I was a Dragoon and they were considered gimp back then). In times like these, I'd just jump on my other computer and work on my game or play something.
FFXI has two things that most MMOs don't have. First of all, it has a pretty good story for an MMO. It starts of somewhat slow, but it picks up once you get rank 3 and start doing those missions. Cutscenes become pretty cool as well, something which most MMOs don't even have.
The second thing FFXI has is a great community. Unlike WoW or most other MMOs, adults tend to play XI more often than kids. This means more mature players, which results in a more pleasant experience. And although leveling can get tedious at times, the fact that you'll have 5 fairly intelligent and (usually) sociable people with you means that it isn't all that bad.
The graphics in XI are very good compared to most MMOs, and that's a plus (I personally can't stand WoW's or any other 3D MMO's graphics after playing XI). There are actually a lot of places to explore in XI but most of the stuff you find (occasionally you'll find stuff like goblin tracks, artifacts, etc.) isn't accessible until the later levels, so while there are many places to explore, you probably won't be doing much interaction early on.
It is a grindfest at times so if you want instant gratification or don't have much time to devote to playing (you'll usually be in one party for 1-4 hours), games like WoW are a better alternative since they involve much less grinding. I'm currently playing WoW, but if I had more time to waste (college student working part time), I'd definitely be back playing XI instead.
Most people are turned off by the time you have to devote to it, so if you're like most people, you won't like it much. If you do decide to start playing, join a linkshell (the guilds of FFXI). Playing by yourself without much interaction gets boring very fast (this is true of any MMO) and is the reason I quit playing XI the first time. Having people to talk to will make the experience much better and you'll be able to get help for quests and missions. Make sure you pick a job you'll like to be your main. I did Dragoon just because I loved their jumps, wyverns, and fairly nice burst damage.
@DS: About the last boat comment...you could always pick up fishing and fish while you're on the boat. Boats sometimes get attacked too, so there's always the option to fight the monsters off (usually not possible at lower levels though). Plus, once you hit rank 4 (or maybe 5, can't remember), you get to ride in airships and they have a much shorter wait and take only 3 minutes to ride. And the reason the game gets more fun past the 30's is that the story becomes more interesting, the more childish players stop playing, you start to get a bunch of good abilities/gear, battles become more challenging and require teamwork and strategy instead of the standard auto-attack, and you get to start doing BCNMs (which are tough little boss fights with pretty good rewards). PvP also opens up (which is basically like a sport with killing) and that's one of the best aspects of the game IMO.
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NEVER
EVER
touch this game
I'm sorry but it sucks. It really does. I know some people here will say NO DS UR WRONG but it sucks. It's tedious as fuck, it takes forever to do anything and after first 10-15 levels or so, soloing gets impossible so you are forced to party with other players. Sometimes this can mean waiting 2 hours for a party only to find leveling is really slow because 1) the game sucks and 2) your party sucks.
Also, the world is really bland. You can't jump, swim or do anything like that. There's little to no exploration in FF11, it's all about finding a spot where to grind mobs. The story is apparently very good (I never got that far in it) but there aren't that many story related missions to make it worth hundreds of hours of UGH NO MORE PLEASE.
By the way, I never got past level 30. People always say the game gets better after level 30. I don't really see why though. I play loads of RPG's (my fav genre) and I couldn't stand the game to get to 30. I liked it for the first 50 hours or so and then it just got more and more boring. I suppose there are some good things about it too, like it's pretty challenging and has great OST but overall, it is not worth it. It is so not worth it.
EDIT: Actually I have heard the game has changed (a lot) since I played it so it might be better now. But if you want to play a MMORPG, WoW is so much better. Or you could wait for Age of Conan, it's coming out in 2-3 months and looks promising.
Also, nothing is more fun than waiting 12 minutes for a ship to arrive and then spending another 12 minutes on the ship. And then you'll realize that you actually spent half an hour doing absolutely nothing.
Agreed. This game is horrible. Get WoW or GW.
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The second thing FFXI has is a great community. Unlike WoW or most other MMOs, adults tend to play XI more often than kids. This means more mature players, which results in a more pleasant experience. And although leveling can get tedious at times, the fact that you'll have 5 fairly intelligent and (usually) sociable people with you means that it isn't all that bad.
Jojowawaru: (Hello)
Kurowimi: (I do not speak English)
Sazuke: (Japanese only)
Guroru-chan: 仮借文字極
more like it.....
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Jojowawaru: (Hello)
Kurowimi: (I do not speak English)
Sazuke: (Japanese only)
Kurowimi: 仮借文字極
more like it.....
Only if you play past midnight when the Japanese players start playing. Either way, most Japanese players won't kick you just because you aren't Japanese. It happens more often at lower levels though since most of them assume that the player doesn't know what they're doing (most JP players have a bunch of 75's and are high rank compared to US players since they got the game first).
Regardless, most people don't like the game. I enjoyed it because it felt different than most MMOs. It is a grindfest though, that's for sure, and it's a huge turn-off. IMO, if they made the battle system like FFXII (same speed and everything, lowering the difficulty and EXP of monsters slightly so you could kill more faster), the game itself would be ten times better.
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Also my registration codes aren't working (I hear this is quite common) If anyone could get me a key gen or knows of some codes then please pm me as it would be much appreciated.
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Also my registration codes aren't working (I hear this is quite common) If anyone could get me a key gen or knows of some codes then please pm me as it would be much appreciated.
seriously man it is awful. don't play it.
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Also my registration codes aren't working (I hear this is quite common) If anyone could get me a key gen or knows of some codes then please pm me as it would be much appreciated.
As far as I know, there are no keygens for it. I've never had this problem personally and I've had to buy two copies but maybe it's different since it's been so long. Make sure you're entering the right codes in the right areas (they give you like 4-5 codes in the booklet). If I remember correctly, you don't have to type in the registration code for the main game (only the expansions/TCG), but I'm not 100% on this since it's been a while.
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I'm currently playing this and I can tell you Chainer and Sarhan are pretty right on, it doesn't really stray that far from the average MMO formula and is perhaps a bit slower then most, due to the job system that requires you to level multiple jobs even if you only want to take one to 75(max level). Finding a good linkshell can help a lot(fortunetly when i start i had rl friends who been playing since the release) since finding a pick-up party for the tough mission and quests, unless it gives out really good shit that people want. And yes improvements have been made for soloing, the biggest one being that as long as you have Signet on you get a defense and evasion bonus against 'even match' mobs. There some other stuff but i can't remember them right now.
As for your problem with your key, the only trouble i had was when i was registering the expansion and i forgot to capitalize... i hope that isn't your problem, because i felt pretty stupid when i figured it out.
BTW I'm on the Caitsith server if you care to join me there.
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this game sounds absolutely awful. i get the appeal of playing in an rpg world with millions of other players, but i don't know why anyone puts up with this level grinding shit. the whole thing just sounds like "YOU HAVE THE WORLD AT YOUR FEET...PLEASE WAIT."
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This is why I love botting.... and why people hate botters so very much.
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If you want a quick and fun MMORPG then get Tabula Rasa. It has some minor bugs and issues (right now) but this thing is a blast to play and the sci-fi fantasy setting is a breath of fresh air.
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This game is really, really horrible.
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Well the game itself is relatively fun for the first few levels... But after that it quickly becomes an aquired taste.
I soloed 4 jobs to 75 and every other job atleast 5 levels after 45. That being said; who ever said it is "impossible to solo" obviously never actually tried all methods possible. I will admit it certainly takes a long to do various things, leveling included. Leveling can be fun if you are avid at soloing. However, in parties you are expected to performed certain task based of your job and only those tasks. You are also expected to have good equipment and always bring buffing items (food). Because of this, party(ing) became boring very quickly for me and I decided to just solo.
As for game content... Yea... I really gotta be honest here... You need to have at least 1 job at 70 to have full unhindered access to 90% of the games content. Much of the content in the game revolves around being 50 or higher and working in a group. There are exceptions, but even those require an obnoxious amounts of planning and a hefty amount of in game money. Speaking of in game money, its been incredibly hard to make since mid 2004 till the time I got banned (november 28th)
In all honesty I recommend you don't start playing. Why? Because nearly everyone in game has at least 1 level 75 job and nearly everyone only cares about endgame content now. You will probably be very hard pressed to find people to help out with earlier missions that generally require 4 or more people. I soloed most of the missions and quest/mission battles but it took multiple tries and excessive planning. Furthermore, even if you managed to solo most battles to endgame(kinda like what I did) nothing is waiting at the end for a solo player. EVERYTHING at endgame requires a full party(6 people) to multiple alliances(18 people each). The only you can do solo end game is solo exp mobs better. But at that point all you can get is "merits" which marginally increase your stats, yet cost massive amounts of exp.
Hate to sound pessimistic but its the cold hard truth.
Edit: Forgot to mention something about FFXI. Monsters... Normal monsters at your level will have less hp and weaker stats than you early on, but their HP and stats will surpass yours around the 14-18 no matter what you do. Here are some examples;
At level 10 you will generally have 100-250 hp depending on your job/race. Monsters at your level will hit slightly lighter than you do and have 150-200hp
In the 40s range you will have like 500-1000 hp depending on your job/gear/race. However, a monster your level will generally always hit harder than you can unless you use a 2 handed weapon(hits 1/2 as fast) or use Strictly attack gear and buffs. Even if you do the monster's damage will still probably be higher because you sacrifice so much defense to push up your attack. To make matters worse, the monsters will have 2000-3500 hp at your level. Yes, you read right; 2000-3000hp.
Finaly in the 70s monsters hit much harder than you can even when you are the same level. They will also have 4000-9000hp. The most I have EVER seen a player get was 2700HP and that was using the job/race that has the most HP with strictly + max HP buffs and gear. Most people will probably have 1100-1600hp at 75(highest level when I left.)
Wondering why I added this edit? Well as you can imagine when monsters get more and more hp and stats faster than you do, it becomes harder and harder to solo for the same ammount of exp, but the exp needed to level goes up REAL fast after you hit 50. From like 18 to 50 the exp needed only goes up by 100 per level. However after level 50 it starts going up by a 1000 per level. It only goes up from there too. Monsters don't give you a set ammount of exp either. They give exp based strictly on your level compared to theirs. A monster your level will always give you 100 if you solo it regardless if you are level 1 or level 75
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yeah i used to play this BACK IN THE DAY with ds and blizz and krin. it's not really that good and i quit after a few months!
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The worst part about FF11 is easily the mobs. Just.. my god.
Alright, so when it comes to partying, you'll rally your fellow adventurers and head out into the world. But don't be confused, you and your friends are still a bunch of pussies as far as the game is concerned; the majority of the time you'll be doing single pulls, and then watch the epicness unfold as 5 people fight to the death with a single DIRE JACKRABBIT (seriously there are like a dozen different models for the monsters). And then if your team somehow didn't expend all of their mana and HP fighting the rabbit, you can pull another one and kill it fast enough for an extra TEN PERCENT EXPERIENCE (jackpot). Plus there is no rhyme or reason to the mob placement; almost every zone will have a handful of creatures that are just guaranteed to kill you if they aggro and have no place there.
I'm more a fan of the newer gameplay style MMOs with combating multiple mobs and SOLOING things around my level, but feel free to try it if you really want.
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I've got the game, and I struggle to keep interest in it since the leveling takes FOREVER when you
solo.. and it takes FOREVER to find a good group (even one at all) for a group exp thingy..
Warning: Your group exp gets sapped GREATLY when you have a group consisting of more than
three different levels in your group, such as 10-13. You want to always keep within the "restriction"
of the levels, that is if you want to level at a DECENT pace. I am only lvl 32 on my warrior, so I should
look for a group of people with a minimum level of 30, or a maximum of 34.
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Hmm forgot about the monster graphics part! Yea they reuse the skin of a monster for all monsters in in that mob's family! The only difference is that make them slightly larger...
They had a plausible excuse back in the day but now its kinda retarded....
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@DS: About the last boat comment...you could always pick up fishing and fish while you're on the boat. Boats sometimes get attacked too, so there's always the option to fight the monsters off (usually not possible at lower levels though). Plus, once you hit rank 4 (or maybe 5, can't remember), you get to ride in airships and they have a much shorter wait and take only 3 minutes to ride.
Are you serious? You're suggesting that people take up fishing to make it suck less that you have to watch a person sit on a boat? I can't imagine the feeling of sitting and watching my character sit on a sailing ship, my bank account slowly being drained of its assetts while I wait for the game to give me permission to play it. I don't understand why MMOs don't let you teleport between regions instantly or pilot your own vehicles.
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I enjoyed this game a lot, but all the people here have valid points. To be honest my highest level classes are bards (never once had an issue getting a party) and Beast Master (recomended, can solo shit no problem). If you play this game I'm really gonna recommend playing as that, as it lets you play the game at your own pace, doing what you want. Most people just grind the fuck out of this game, leveling as fast as possible and grinding items and weapons. I was more focused on quests and missions (got rank 10 bastok and rank 9 sandoria, when most people just cared about rank 5). I dunno I really enjoyed this game, but then again it was my first MMORPG, so I might be biased. Feel free to ask me for more information. This is already getting too jumbled. Oh well.
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Are you serious? You're suggesting that people take up fishing to make it suck less that you have to watch a person sit on a boat? I can't imagine the feeling of sitting and watching my character sit on a sailing ship, my bank account slowly being drained of its assetts while I wait for the game to give me permission to play it. I don't understand why MMOs don't let you teleport between regions instantly or pilot your own vehicles.
Actually, you can teleport to just about any region in the game instantly, once you've done the proper quest most of which can be done with no more then sneak/invis and knowing how to avoid aggressive monsters.
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Yea... To give you an idea where I am coming from; I got 75 Redmage, Beastmaster, Dragoon, and Thief. I also had Warrior, Monk, Whitemage, Samurai all in the 60-64 range. The rest of the the jobs were at 45 to 50. Only jobs I never touched were Puppetmaster, Summoner, and the Wings of the Goddess jobs.
I probably would have quit even if I wasnt banned first(3rd party windowing program >_>;;). I had just gotten dragoon to 75 and it was cool at first but after like 2 days it kinda felt like my other jobs; boring with nothing left. Since I had basically completed every mission I could and many quests. There just wasn't much for me to do anymore. Soloing was still fun but even that gets old after you do it for... Oh hell I dont know, but it was most of every job I had so lets say roughly 600 levels!
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I would be playing it if I hadn't forgetten my PlayOnline ID. It's fucking stupid you need two Usernames.
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Are you serious? You're suggesting that people take up fishing to make it suck less that you have to watch a person sit on a boat? I can't imagine the feeling of sitting and watching my character sit on a sailing ship, my bank account slowly being drained of its assetts while I wait for the game to give me permission to play it. I don't understand why MMOs don't let you teleport between regions instantly or pilot your own vehicles.
Okay, well if you don't like fishing, then turn on the TV or do something else. You aren't forced to watch your character while they're on the boat. Regardless, you get airships later on and you can just teleport if it's that big of an issue. Technically, you only need to use a boat 3 times in the entire game, just to get all of the Crag Crystals, and you don't even have to do that if you'd rather walk there.
I've got the game, and I struggle to keep interest in it since the leveling takes FOREVER when you
solo.. and it takes FOREVER to find a good group (even one at all) for a group exp thingy..
Warning: Your group exp gets sapped GREATLY when you have a group consisting of more than
three different levels in your group, such as 10-13. You want to always keep within the "restriction"
of the levels, that is if you want to level at a DECENT pace. I am only lvl 32 on my warrior, so I should
look for a group of people with a minimum level of 30, or a maximum of 34.
Like I said before, your job determines how long it takes to find a group. And you're wrong about the EXP thing. The amount of EXP you get from a monster depends on what the mob checks to the highest level player in your party. Thus, if you're level 32 fighting a mob that checks Incredibly Tough to a level 34 in your party, you'll still get good EXP (only a few points less, but the same percentage of your EXP needed as the level 34). However, if you're fighting a mob that's IT to you but Tough to the level 34, you'll get the shittier EXP because the mob is only T to the level 34.
So many people don't understand one of the most basic concepts of partying. It's ridiculous.
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He was referring to solo-ing.
And I always thought the monster difficulty was retarded. I didn't play long enough to discover the intricate nuances (I say this lightly) of how the game is balanced; all I cared about was the fact that I got owned by a bunny with a green name instead of the normal blue named bunnies or whatever color they associate with "slightly tougher" monsters.
Solo'ing is basically running around and fighting monsters slightly weaker than you. Monsters your level, regardless of your equipment (because equipment is stupidly restricted to your level) do enough damage to force you to heal after fighting them which makes the reward worthless. Monsters weaker than you give out shitty experience so you end up fighting more of them and wasting your time.
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He was referring to solo-ing.
And I always thought the monster difficulty was retarded. I didn't play long enough to discover the intricate nuances (I say this lightly) of how the game is balanced; all I cared about was the fact that I got owned by a bunny with a green name instead of the normal blue named bunnies or whatever color they associate with "slightly tougher" monsters.
Solo'ing is basically running around and fighting monsters slightly weaker than you. Monsters your level, regardless of your equipment (because equipment is stupidly restricted to your level) do enough damage to force you to heal after fighting them which makes the reward worthless. Monsters weaker than you give out shitty experience so you end up fighting more of them and wasting your time.
He actually talked about partying. And a lot of MMOs limit what you can equip by level (WoW and RO, plus a bunch of other small-time MMO's I've played). Not really a big deal. I don't think it'd matter that much even if you could wear the better gear. Monsters would still be a pain to solo.
But I do agree with you about the monsters being far too challenging past level 12. This is why I said the game would be far better if they made monsters easier to kill (and lowered the EXP they give also) so players don't have to rest after every single fight. If only the battle system/difficulty was the same as FFXII...
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I had nearly 5 level 75's and the game never got old for me. :( I actually liked partying, because bad parties just made it that much more awesome when you got a good one where everyone knew what they were doing.
The game does get a lot better as you advance, I felt like quitting many times the first 40ish levels (the first time around) because the low-level areas are swarmed with new people, and PvE in this game actually requires some degree of understanding of game mechanics (skill?). I had to get WoW and force myself to get addicted to it because FF11 was completely eating all my time. It is a huge time sink, but it's very enjoyable once you get into it.
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Take it from a former 75War/37Nin, stay away.
Infact, I advise you stay away from MMORPGs until the damn genre gets its act together.
If you thought WoW PVP was shit, well brace yourself: FF11 makes WoW pvp seem well made!
It is not a FUN time sink. FUN time sinks are... FUN.
This is just a time sink pure and simple.
Camping HNMs for 3 hours? Boring
Waiting endlessly for group? Boring
PLAYING in a group after 5 mobs? Boring
Level capped Missions? Oh boy, now I get to go to the AH to buy level 40 items that are ridiculously priced now that I'm forced to level down to 40 for this specific area!
Redeeming factors? Renkeis were a nifty concept, use weapon skills in a certain order, get extra damage that can be chained together with magic for even more damage.
Dynamis: Back when I played, was essentially the end game. They were (for lack of a better term) an evil version of home towns with a ton of monsters. There was a certain FUN chaos to it, which is hard to find when doing something tedious like raiding.
Boss Battles were always climactic and at least somewhat interesting. BCNMs were instanced, but only support one group at a time. At least back when I played.
The game was very cinematic too; that was rare to find in an MMORPG.
Thats it, pretty much. Just stay far away from this and all MMORPGS.
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I'm trying to build up a new character, and I just cannot do it, so I'm gonna cancel. Everyone's at endgame now so there are like nine people in the Dunes on my server, usually. People who play know that Valkurm Dunes is usually packed. Like I said, everyone's at endgame, so you open up the server search list and all you see is:
75WHM/37BLM
75RNG/37NIN
75WAR/37PLD
...
Ad infinitum. The game is in its death throes; no one who gives a damn about MMOs plays it because they were already on to the next big thing years ago, and anyone who was hooked because it was their first MMO has probably moved on to WoW because it's more user and solo-friendly. They have cool jobs now (Scholar, Blue Mage come to mind) but it's all too little, too late.
Edit: Oh yeah, as a Black Mage I enjoyed the shit out of Magic Burst and wish the general concept was something applied more to MMOs. Also, apparently the game had a pretty good story, but no one bothered with it.
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Like I said, everyone's at endgame, so you open up the server search list and all you see is:
75WHM/37BLM
75RNG/37NIN
75WAR/37PLD
...
Yeah, I noticed this as well when I went back the 2nd time. Made the experience much worse because the first time around, I could get through Valkurm in two or three days. The 2nd time, it took much longer, even playing as a WHM or BLM.
I've heard rumors that Square has started a new MMO. Anybody know if this is true?
EDIT: Just searched youtube and found a vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtZvn5c4e4
Hopefully they'll get it right and fix up all the flaws XI had.
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That's not a new MMO, that's a tech demo they did for the Xbox360 version of FF11 a long time ago. For some reason, it has little to do with anything FFXI-related, but I clearly remember seeing that trailer in the official site linked to the Xbox360 version.
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I'm trying to build up a new character, and I just cannot do it, so I'm gonna cancel. Everyone's at endgame now so there are like nine people in the Dunes on my server, usually. People who play know that Valkurm Dunes is usually packed. Like I said, everyone's at endgame, so you open up the server search list and all you see is:
75WHM/37BLM
75RNG/37NIN
75WAR/37PLD
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i think you should try another server then. while not as pack as it was in the old days i still find plenty of people to party with(and i'm leveling DRK right now(also i play mostly at midnight when all the japanese players are on)) and its not just people trying to level the new expansion jobs. So i usually just solo until i get an invite.
Speaking of soloing, BST sub is you best friend for soloing since its Charm skill actually works beyond the level 37 sub limit(if you have 75 bst, subing it will allow charm to work as if your main job was bst) and dancer is damn good with melee classes, basicly making you unkillable and removing the need to rest, at the cost of killing enemies a bit slower(since you mostly likely won't be using any weapon skills). And of course there's the Adventuring Fellow NPC who you can make DD, Heal or Tank for you.
As for the new SE MMO, the mentioned last November that they haven't even decided weather or not the game will be FF related, so any official trailers(and the actual game) are probably still far off. And yes, even SE isn't stupid enough to ignore the new ideas other MMO's have come up with(even if it will piss of their hardcore fan base).
EDIT: I just remembered something that I thought sounded really awesome and I think many people may be interested in around here(what with this supposably being a game making site). One of the other thing mention in November was that the creators are looking into adding the ability for players to create their own dungeons in the game, though at this point they are only looking to see if it will be possible so and may not even be in and if it is, it probably won't show up till this time next year(I'm still hyped though).
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Okay, well if you don't like fishing, then turn on the TV or do something else. You aren't forced to watch your character while they're on the boat.
My criticism was that the subscriber pays a monthly fee so that he can wait for an opportunity to play. Watching TV for half an hour does *not* make this any better.
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Yeah, I noticed this as well when I went back the 2nd time. Made the experience much worse because the first time around, I could get through Valkurm in two or three days. The 2nd time, it took much longer, even playing as a WHM or BLM.
I've heard rumors that Square has started a new MMO. Anybody know if this is true?
EDIT: Just searched youtube and found a vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtZvn5c4e4
Hopefully they'll get it right and fix up all the flaws XI had.
holy crap that is the worst video ever. a bunch of locations and the most lossy sound I've heard since Kazaa became illegal.
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holy crap that is the worst video ever. a bunch of locations and the most lossy sound I've heard since Kazaa became illegal.
Holy crap! It's only a tech demo (showing the White Engine, which is supposedly being used for FFXIII and their next MMO) plus it's from 2005, when it was in early development. And the sound quality is a result of the video the guy posted on youtube. Plus it's FFX's music, so it doesn't even matter.
If you really care about the sound, here's one with better quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9nrV1Oi6Ak&feature=related
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Square is pretty much dropping the White Engine for all next gen games except for FFXIII. They licensed the Unreal Engine so they can spend more time focused on gameplay. Square also published another MMORPG that was a critical failure, Fantasy Earth. Granted they didn't develop it, but it was pretty much an instant failure.
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I dissagree with most ppls
i enjoyed FFXI! I liked it mainly for the fact that it does not cut into ppls social life like WoW does. I played WoW at my friends house for a day and i got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hooked. In the end, FFXI is a basic MMORPG at best but luckily for you it would not hypnotize you into playing it 24/7 like WoW
I DID play it, until i needed space for my computer so i am going to buy the 360 version soon, which i hear is much nicer than the PC(Graphic-Wise)
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I dissagree with most ppls
i enjoyed FFXI! I liked it mainly for the fact that it does not cut into ppls social life like WoW does. I played WoW at my friends house for a day and i got WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hooked. In the end, FFXI is a basic MMORPG at best but luckily for you it would not hypnotize you into playing it 24/7 like WoW
I DID play it, until i needed space for my computer so i am going to buy the 360 version soon, which i hear is much nicer than the PC(Graphic-Wise)
it hypnotized you? so your blaming the game for MAKING you play it way too much because it hypnotizes you, when really it was your own lack of self control? so how does ff11 counter this, by being less fun or something?