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Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Niitaka on January 11, 2008, 07:45:57 pm
This has been all around the tech world since yesterday so let's talk about it.

Every year, a consumer electronics trade show is held in Las Vegas. Attendees go to see the latest technology that the various big companies are planning to release that year - a preview, if you will. This also serves as important publicity as favorable impressions at the show result in higher exposure to the general public.

Gizmodo is a well-known blog that makes over 50 posts a day. Their posts are often immature but due to their sheer volume and breadth many people still read it to keep up with the latest. This year they decided to pull a prank by bringing TV-B-Gone remotes (which allows you to turn off TVs from most brands through IR signals) and shutting off dozens of TVs at the show.

My first reaction was that this was a funny trick. Then I realized that first of all, they didn't build this thing. They just brought one along. So there goes your "Wow that's a clever thing to do" geek reaction. And second, this is the CES. This isn't like walking into an electronics store and shutting off a wall of TVs just so you can watch the staff scramble to fix it while you pat yourself on the back for being "clever" and giggle. People, both attendees and companies, paid exorbitant amounts of money to be there, and the prank affected many presentations and live demos that were really important to them.

I really would not be surprised if Gizmodo gets sued over this. Seriously, this is high-school level shit. Have some professionalism.

Edit: Oh, also, link (http://gizmodo.com/343348/confessions-the-meanest-thing-gizmodo-did-at-ces).
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Ragnar on January 11, 2008, 07:53:12 pm
Well to be honest I would love to do that at a Radio Shack - or one of those TV-specific stores because they seem kind of seedy and weird to me
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: GirlBones on January 11, 2008, 07:55:36 pm
Another dick in the anus that is corporate greed. I say GOOD GOING, gizmodo, even if they did intend it as a prank and not an artistic/political statement.



Fuck the government


fuck to corporations
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: General Robert E. Lee on January 11, 2008, 07:56:49 pm
TVs are computers now?
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 11, 2008, 08:01:06 pm
I agree with this eco-terrorist-like action, everyday millions upon millions of megawatts are wasted with energy wasting arrangements of TVs like those. If anyone should be sued it's people who keep a lot of TVs turned on at the same time.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: ase on January 11, 2008, 08:08:16 pm
The video was kind of funny but yeah they will probably get their asses sued now. I'm sure it's not worth it to pull a prank like that and then get fined tens of thousands of dollars!
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: The Ghost on January 11, 2008, 08:09:56 pm
You know, i just found out that Man-O-War is a type of jellyfish yesterday.

It was a very profounding find for me and brought tears to my eyes. I didn't really look it up either, was helping a family member with her project on jellyfishes.


On Topic:

Why are you so offended Niitaka? It almosts sound like you took this personally.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Ragnar on January 11, 2008, 08:18:02 pm
You know, i just found out that Man-O-War is a type of jellyfish yesterday.

It was a very profounding find for me and brought tears to my eyes. I didn't really look it up either, was helping a family member with her project on jellyfishes.


I found out from this http://www.realmofdarkness.net/dw2manowar.htm

of course, I was like 3 at the time

Also lol http://manowarapproaches.ytmnd.com/
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 11, 2008, 09:10:00 pm
lol thats hilarious
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Sludgelord on January 11, 2008, 09:31:18 pm
ahahaha they turned off fatal1ty's computer while he was playing. what a fucking faggot.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 09:36:45 pm
Another dick in the anus that is corporate greed. I say GOOD GOING, gizmodo, even if they did intend it as a prank and not an artistic/political statement.



Fuck the government


fuck to corporations

are you joking? Because what the hell does this have to do with corprate greed? Infact, companies like those hardly have moral problems that would be a negative "greed" The companies you should worry about that are greedy are the ones that responsible for taking care of you like car insurance, Health Insurance..etc.

I agree with this eco-terrorist-like action, everyday millions upon millions of megawatts are wasted with energy wasting arrangements of TVs like those. If anyone should be sued it's people who keep a lot of TVs turned on at the same time.

Yeah, I have to agree a lot of energy is being used, however it is not wasted. It is used to advertise, which is a great strategy. Also they pay for the bill, not anyone else so I really have a hard time hating them for it.


I thought this was funny as hell, lol.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 11, 2008, 09:46:11 pm
Yeah, I have to agree a lot of energy is being used, however it is not wasted. It is used to advertise, which is a great strategy. Also they pay for the bill, not anyone else so I really have a hard time hating them for it.
not wasted?

and you think paying the bill has any impact on whether or not it's a waste of energy?
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Sarah on January 11, 2008, 09:47:21 pm
The girl in the video said BONKO NUTSO and I wished so badly I could've been there just for that.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Shadow Kirby on January 11, 2008, 09:50:53 pm
Another dick in the anus that is corporate greed. I say GOOD GOING, gizmodo, even if they did intend it as a prank and not an artistic/political statement.



Fuck the government


fuck to corporations

Yeah, fuck authority!

*burns a police station and rocks out*
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:02:06 pm
not wasted?

and you think paying the bill has any impact on whether or not it's a waste of energy?
what? when did I say that? your using a very stupid debating tactic in which you choose what words you want to acknowledge in a statement by another party to come to a very inaccurate conclusion.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Wil on January 11, 2008, 10:02:27 pm
I thought it was funny.

and I liked the girl that said WACKO MACKO!!!
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 11, 2008, 10:04:35 pm
what? when did I say that?
Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
Yeah' date=' I have to agree a lot of energy is being used, however it is not wasted. It is used to advertise, which is a great strategy. Also they pay for the bill, not anyone else so I really have a hard time hating them for it.[/quote']

1. the energy is being wasted since most of these TVs are effectively useless even if its for advertisement. you dont need that many tvs.
2. what does them paying the bill have to do with anything? why wouldn't you hate someone wasting energy just because they're paying the bill?
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on January 11, 2008, 10:11:51 pm
You know, i just found out that Man-O-War is a type of jellyfish yesterday.

It was a very profounding find for me and brought tears to my eyes. I didn't really look it up either, was helping a family member with her project on jellyfishes.


On Topic:

Why are you so offended Niitaka? It almosts sound like you took this personally.

"is commonly thought of as a jellyfish but is actually a siphonophore—a colony of specialized polyps and medusoids."

l2r

Also yeah, I'm torn between "DIE CORPORATE SCUM" and the feeling that it was kind of immature and unfunny.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:15:13 pm
1. the energy is being wasted since most of these TVs are effectively useless even if its for advertisement. you dint need that many TVs.
2. what does them paying the bill have to do with anything? why wouldn't you hate someone wasting energy just because they're paying the bill?

1. I see you know a lot about advertisement right? Even I, who is trying to get into the advertisement business can't tell you the effectiveness of this method of advertisement, and you can? I can't say something is useless unless I know about it And I can't say what people want or need. They chose to have 12 TVs as their display because that's how it was setup for there purpose. It is not waste as long has it has a reason.

however I can tell you that, a STORE selling TVs that has a display at its windows showcasing 12 TVs on and running will draw a whole lot more attention than a store that has one TV at the store window.

What is a WATS is going out to dinner and leaving the T.V. in your room on, where it has no purpose.

2. Look at the person I quoted, he implies a strong dislike for people who waste energy, I simply stated I personally can't really hate someone who buys something and uses it as he sees fit (even if he is wasting it.) and Why the hell would I HATE someone for "wasting" energy? I could understand if Energy was some RARE resource and he bought all of it and is just wasting, but no one is doing that.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Vellfire on January 11, 2008, 10:17:43 pm
HAHAHAHA LOOK THEIR TVS ARE OFF


This is what 11 year olds do.  What a dumb prank.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 11, 2008, 10:20:14 pm
Yes Xenosoft I totally agree with you, we should try as best as we can to make advertisement as costly and wasteful as possible.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:21:55 pm
Yes Xenosoft I totally agree with you, we should try as best as we can to make advertisement as costly and wasteful as possible.
I'm pretty sure I didn't say that =3
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 11, 2008, 10:24:27 pm
I'm pretty sure I didn't say that =3

But that's what that "advertisement" is. They're burning trillions of tons of coal every second to keep that "advertisement" running but so what? They're paying the bill.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:27:41 pm
But that's what that "advertisement" is. They're burning trillions of tons of coal every second to keep that "advertisement" running but so what? They're paying the bill.
no you said They try their best to make as costly as possible, when they do the exact opposite of that...not only that but you implied that I said that...and you said "we"
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 11, 2008, 10:41:17 pm
1. I see you know a lot about advertisement right? Even I, who is trying to get into the advertisement business can't tell you the effectiveness of this method of advertisement, and you can? I can't say something is useless unless I know about it And I can't say what people want or need. They chose to have 12 TVs as their display because that's how it was setup for there purpose. It is not waste as long has it has a reason.

however I can tell you that, a STORE selling TVs that has a display at its windows showcasing 12 TVs on and running will draw a whole lot more attention than a store that has one TV at the store window.

What is a WATS is going out to dinner and leaving the T.V. in your room on, where it has no purpose.
in the Grand Scheme of Things, advertisement is not worth the energy waste. if you are only weighting the benefits of the company, then yes, advertisement rules. but weighing the effects on the planet's resources, it suddenly becomes a lot less wonderful.

Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
2. Look at the person I quoted' date=' he implies a strong dislike for people who waste energy, I simply stated I personally can't really hate someone who buys something and uses it as he sees fit (even if he is wasting it.) and Why the hell would I HATE someone for "wasting" energy? [b']I could understand if Energy was some RARE resource[/b] and he bought all of it and is just wasting, but no one is doing that.
energy IS a rare resource. i don't know if you realised, but the majority of energy comes from non-renewable resources such as coal. and we are RAPIDLY running out of them! energy doesn't magically appear, you know. that's why it doesn't matter if they paid for it. it's a wasteful use of a limited resource.

edit: i don't usually make a fuss about things like this because i don't care that much, but to have such an ignorant attitude about energy is just infuriating. i don't care, but at least i know.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on January 11, 2008, 10:49:14 pm
regardless of whether having that much power is a waste of energy it is not within acceptable legal or moral boundaries to sabotage corporate operations that have been paid for with millions of dollars and years of work. and gizmodo did it to be dicks, not protest energy, so it's a moot point either way.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 10:51:56 pm
in the Grand Scheme of Things, advertisement is not worth the energy waste. if you are only weighting the benefits of the company, then yes, advertisement rules. but weighing the effects on the planet's resources, it suddenly becomes a lot less wonderful.
energy IS a rare resource. i don't know if you realised, but the majority of energy comes from non-renewable resources such as coal. and we are RAPIDLY running out of them! energy doesn't magically appear, you know. that's why it doesn't matter if they paid for it. it's a wasteful use of a limited resource.



edit: i don't usually make a fuss about things like this because i don't care that much, but to have such an ignorant attitude about energy is just infuriating. i don't care, but at least i know.

1.lol, in the Grand Scheme of Things, nothing we do matters because we will All die. (I luv that logic) To TRY and take that seriously... I would have to do research...and I just did, Coal is one of the earths most abundant resources, what are you talking about? Just because we can't reuse doesn't make it rare. Not only that, we are in the transition era, where are power sources are being forced to switch. If it wasn't for the motivation of "we need alternate sources of power" we would be taking our sweet time with such advancements. Why am I arguing this point? it's left the scope of the point of what I was defending.

2. I know a lot, is it more than you? I dont know, because I don't know you. I'm glad you can call me ignorant without even knowing me though. I haven't said anything ignorant, however I could call you ignorant for talking about advertisement without understanding it, but I wont.

.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Niitaka on January 11, 2008, 10:57:52 pm
The point is that they did it and then EDITED A VIDEO and then posted it online for ATTENTION?

It would be different if they went into Circuit City or something for this. But a lot of people have spent huge amounts of money for a chance to hold a presentation showcasing their product line, and the following happens:

and now...the moment you've been waiting for...our high contrast HDTV!
*tv doesn't turn on*
*press scribbles on notepads*

Even if saying hey, Gizmodo FUCKED US UP it wasn't our fault, even if they stopped bad press, it would still mean lots of wasted money because they didn't get to show off anything.

And really, a lot of people's jobs are at stake (not mine though)
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 11, 2008, 11:27:50 pm
Yes it was a rather childish action but this doesn't mean they don't deserve a medal for what they did

Xenosoft do you think it's OK to pollute the air by burning coal just for advertisement? And advertisement that didn't work because seeing a bunch of TVs turned on doesn't make me want to buy TVs
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 11, 2008, 11:34:11 pm
Yes it was a rather childish action but this doesn't mean they don't deserve a medal for what they did

Xenosoft do you think it's OK to pollute the air by burning coal just for advertisement? And advertisement that didn't work because seeing a bunch of TVs turned on doesn't make me want to buy TVs

your funny, so it went from wasting energy to Polluting? whatever....You think its ok to pollute just to play some video games? You think its okay to pollute just to play a football game at night time rather than playing during the day? You think its okay to pollute just so you don't have to wash your clothes by hand anymore? ...Ithe list can go forever.

I'm glad to hear that seeing a bunch of tvs on doesn't make you want to bu ya TV, but I'm pretty sure if you were looking fora TV and you noticed the store, you would walk in, unless you had preset store inmind.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on January 11, 2008, 11:44:41 pm
What the fuck does this have to do with environmental issues? The convention center probably doesn't sap much more power than your average corporate building or small industrial facility, and it contributes to the economy by spurring international growth in the tech industry.

way to extrapolate COMPLETELY UNRELATED ISSUES from this newspost guys (next thing you'll be posting HEH..MOTHER EARTH CRIES when someone posts something about the world's tallest building or some shit)
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 11, 2008, 11:52:57 pm
your funny, so it went from wasting energy to Polluting?

No it never went, it was a waste or energy and pollution was one of it's many consequences.

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whatever....You think its ok to pollute just to play some video games? You think its okay to pollute just to play a football game at night time rather than playing during the day? You think its okay to pollute just so you don't have to wash your clothes by hand anymore? ...Ithe list can go forever.

I don't, that's why I don't own a car and try to not use so much electrical energy by turning things off when I'm not using them. I flush the toilet only if it has shit in it and try to take as few (cold, because heating water uses a lot of energy) showers as possible to save water as well.


What the fuck does this have to do with environmental issues? The convention center probably doesn't sap much more power than your average corporate building or small industrial facility, and it contributes to the economy by spurring international growth in the tech industry.

way to extrapolate COMPLETELY UNRELATED ISSUES from this newspost guys (next thing you'll be posting HEH..MOTHER EARTH CRIES when someone posts something about the world's tallest building or some shit)

It has everything to do with environmental issues, I bet the kids just started a new eco-trend by sabotaging conventions that use too much power for nothing
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 12, 2008, 12:04:47 am
Oh ok, now I understand you.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Vellfire on January 12, 2008, 12:13:31 am
wait let me get this straight people still pay attention to anything inri cheetos says?  he's as close to being a joke account as you can be without being a joke account
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Hundley on January 12, 2008, 01:47:04 am
if you are like me and think that advertising is one of the most useless, disgusting things on the planet, then this video will make you somewhat happy

i only say SOMEWHAT because it's just a prank but i find it extremely difficult to take any exception with pranks at the expense of precious advertising dollars.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: The Ghost on January 12, 2008, 01:57:08 am
"is commonly thought of as a jellyfish but is actually a siphonophore—a colony of specialized polyps and medusoids."

l2r

Also yeah, I'm torn between "DIE CORPORATE SCUM" and the feeling that it was kind of immature and unfunny.

Those are names of stages jellyfishes go through before turning into a jellyfish (I.E: larva, etc).

Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: something bizarre and impractical on January 12, 2008, 02:56:01 am
Those are names of stages jellyfishes go through before turning into a jellyfish (I.E: larva, etc).

Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).

Well wikipedia makes it pretty clear in both the man-o-war article and the siphonophora articles that the man-o-war IS NOT a jellyfish.

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The Portuguese Man O' War is often confused with a jellyfish, which is incorrect and may lead to improper treatment of stings, as the venom is different. A second sting may lead to an allergic reaction.

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"Siphonophora is an order of the Hydrozoa, a class of marine invertebrates belonging to the phylum Cnidaria. They are colonial, the colonies can superficially resemble jellyfish and they may be Earth's most abundant predators. The best known species is the Portuguese Man o' War. Each Man o' War is a colony."

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Btw, I would actually liked to have seen this so I could laugh at the pathetic "new" technology that can not self sustain itself without electricity (I'm sure they weren't prepared for this enough to bring batteries or something).

What do you mean sustain itself? The guys were using a remote to turn off the monitors/televisions.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Niitaka on January 12, 2008, 03:21:13 am
Hundley brings up a point worth discussing.

I assume that (if you're like me) you dislike advertising because millions of dollars are poured into it for the purpose of promoting a product, often superficially. So for example, Coke commercials during the Super Bowl - everyone knows what Coke is, and a 30-second spot costs over 2 million dollars. The same goes with Apple's video ads comparing OSX and Windows - I've never seen them aired on television (someone correct me if they have) and all they really seem to be for is to let Mac users have a private chuckle. Windows users have to go out of their way to see them. Ads like that is a waste of money, and I'll hate that easily.

But I've seen really creative commercials in all the mindless promotion. Like, artists and musicians are often hired to make something and it really helps them - financially, yes, but also getting exposure and practice. An obscure Asian hip hop group (Mountain Brothers?) were featured on a Sprite radio commercial and that's how they got noticed. I've found Zune Arts (http://www.zune-arts.com/) to have some really experimental stuff in their animation, and this wouldn't be out there if Microsoft didn't tell an artist, "Hey, go nuts."

I mean, obviously, there's a limit to their creative expression when working on an ad, but they're getting paid for it! Someone, somewhere in all the money pouring down the drain is at least getting supported as they work towards being well off enough to be able to do whatever the hell they want creatively, so where do you draw the line?
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: The Ghost on January 12, 2008, 06:01:23 am
@Catslacks

it's pretty clear I came here to talk about jellyfishes and made a shitty attempt on trying to stay on topic. Anyways, I'll stop now even though I wanted to touch up on something.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: GirlBones on January 12, 2008, 09:53:17 am
here is where i draw the line: all ads are bad and xenosoft is a corporate stooge
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 12, 2008, 12:35:12 pm
1.lol, in the Grand Scheme of Things, nothing we do matters because we will All die. (I luv that logic)
you giant idiot

Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
Coal is one of the earths most abundant resources' date=' what are you talking about? Just because we can't reuse doesn't make it rare.[/quote']
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At the end of 2006 the recoverable coal reserves amounted around one exagram (1 × 1015 kg or 998 billion tons), approximately half of it being hard coal. The energy value of all the world's recoverable coal is 27 zettajoules, which is expected to last 164 years.[31]
this is a problem

Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
Not only that' date=' we are in the transition era, where are power sources are being forced to switch.[/quote']
why the fuck do you think power sources are being forced to switch? because everyone is wasting energy, because we're relying on fossil fuels, because of the effects on the environment.

Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
2. I know a lot' date=' is it more than you? I dont know, because I don't know you. I'm glad you can call me ignorant without even knowing me though. I haven't said anything ignorant, however I could call you ignorant for talking about advertisement without understanding it, but I wont.[/quote']
oh but you have, dude. you've said many ignorant things. you call me ignorant about advertisement and assume i don't know anything about it - i do. i just don't think advertisement is that fucking great that we need to waste energy on it.

here is another instance where you were really ignorant:

"Yeah, I have to agree a lot of energy is being used, however it is not wasted. It is used to advertise, which is a great strategy. Also they pay for the bill, not anyone else so I really have a hard time hating them for it."

it's just mindboggling that you could have this thought path.


BY THE WAY ON TOPIC:

if you get angry at gizmodo being dicks you have no sense of humour. who the fuck cares, its funny.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Seawed on January 12, 2008, 06:59:16 pm
Who the fuck cares about the energy being wasted. So much more gets wasted on other useless things and you choose to bitch about it now? Like, ...what? Also, I doubt that the energy they used for the presentations would have been enough to permanently damage the world, so yeah. Why not start complaining about other wasted things which actually DO hurt the less fortunate?

Also, the joke would be funny...in primary school. This is just immature and any responsible adult wouldn't go around doing this at a huge presentation like CES. There's a difference between doing this there and a TV store.
Trust me, I have a good sense of humour and this isn't funny.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 12, 2008, 07:05:51 pm
How can that be not funny? Your sense of humour must be broken then
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Seawed on January 12, 2008, 07:13:04 pm
No, I'm just older than 12.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 12, 2008, 07:14:52 pm
Then it is your inner child that is broken
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 12, 2008, 07:19:15 pm
you giant idiot
this is a problem
why the fuck do you think power sources are being forced to switch? because everyone is wasting energy, because we're relying on fossil fuels, because of the effects on the environment.
oh but you have, dude. you've said many ignorant things. you call me ignorant about advertisement and assume i don't know anything about it - i do. i just don't think advertisement is that fucking great that we need to waste energy on it.

here is another instance where you were really ignorant:

"Yeah, I have to agree a lot of energy is being used, however it is not wasted. It is used to advertise, which is a great strategy. Also they pay for the bill, not anyone else so I really have a hard time hating them for it."

it's just mindboggling that you could have this thought path.


BY THE WAY ON TOPIC:

if you get angry at gizmodo being dicks you have no sense of humour. who the fuck cares, its funny.

Ohhhh, I'm sorry please enlighten me as to why advertisement exist in the form it does today(since you now claim to know about it), it is a very simple reason that doesn't even get into the complexity the human mind.  If you knew anything about advertisement you would know it is KEY to allowing business to survive, especially in this day and age.

The reason advertisements are done the way it is today is such a simple reason too, and you really have no other choice but to do it.

and that is not an ignorant statement, do you even know what ignorant means? Your logic makes no sense. You seem to be taking this out of context ...to some global world threat level, which Advertisement doesn't even put a dent in(pollution).  Advertisement is not a waste if it brings in customers who bring you attention, who bring you money. That is its goal...it would only be a waste of those ads failed to do their job.


Also, please refrain from making things personal like calling me names...what are you? 12? If you want to flame go find another 12 year old.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 12, 2008, 09:18:36 pm
Advertisement is not a waste if it makes people buy consumer goods that will soon become trash meaning all the resources they spent in making those goods were just wasted?

I guess that after all money is much more important than anything else, and it's OK to generate massive amounts of trash as long as WE'RE MAKIN MANEY!!!!!!!1!!
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: GirlBones on January 13, 2008, 05:35:11 am
Ohhhh, I'm sorry please enlighten me as to why advertisement exist in the form it does today(since you now claim to know about it), it is a very simple reason that doesn't even get into the complexity the human mind.  If you knew anything about advertisement you would know it is KEY to allowing business to survive, especially in this day and age.


i dont think this should be allowed




Quote from: banksy
The people who truly deface our neighborhoods are the companies that scrawl their giant slogans across buildings and buses trying to make us feel inadequate unless we buy their stuff. They expect to be able to shout their message in your face from every available surface but you're never allowed to answer back. Well, they started this fight, and the walltv remote is the weapon of choice to hit them back.

xenosoft, there comes a time in every mans life when he realizes that it's time to put down his animes and start paying attention to the real world.

also, why did you let pot noodle and xsmfpt flamebait you into trying to justify coal energy? that was dumb/funny



I AM THE ADVERTISISNG MASTER WATCH OUT BEFORE I ADVERTISE ON YOUR KATANAS AND ANIMES

Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Medieve on January 13, 2008, 06:59:18 am
Umm, as much as you guys would like to give a hoozah at the imaginary slight to the big man, the prank was childish, malicious, and only disrupted events people worked to put up and attend to. I'm pretty sure I'd be extremely irritated if someone barged into my university's student gallery and shut down the screens the multimedia students use. Oh, I'm sure the university is really hurting now that one of their student shows was sabotaged! Who does that university think they are? Taking people's money to provide them with services. Its a symbolic attack on their ideals that a random prankster f@#$% up a student's thesis show.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Vellfire on January 13, 2008, 03:08:18 pm
Also, these are peoples JOBS we're talking about.  There were people who were chosen to present those products, and if suddenly things don't work, no one watching is going to have a good opinion about that product.  That affects an ENTIRE COMPANY, which as much as people want to TAKE DOWN THE BIG BUSINESS GUYS, those are normal everyday people working there, and lots of them.  I'm not saying this stunt is ruining an entire business by itself, but that doesn't mean it couldn't do something negative to those people in charge of that presentation.

The guy(s?) in charge of this are banned from CES now, and other similar events have been thinking about banning them too.

They're still laughing about it though, and they seem to think this is pretty funny too:

Quote from: From their site
While much of the internet may be up in arms over Richard Blakeley's recent IR-induced video stunt, a 14-year-old boy from Poland allegedly took an IR hack to more tragic proportions this week, and has been accused of hacking a standard TV remote to override track switching at rail junctions in the city of Lodz. Four trams were derailed and (luckily) only 12 people were injured with none killed. The youth in question was described by teachers as an "electronics buff and exemplary student," according to The Register.

The lesson? From here on out, Blakeley takes a cab. And he stays the fuck away from our train set.

hehehehehe 12 people were injured doing something similar to what we did
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: HL on January 13, 2008, 03:14:52 pm
I like when people say DOWN WITH BUSINESS but they don't really realize what life would be like for them if no business existed


ie: third world countrys but even worse
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 13, 2008, 03:17:38 pm
Yes Velrarre shutting down a TV is exactly like derailing a train
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: PTizzle on January 13, 2008, 05:55:14 pm
Yeah, fuck authority!

*burns a police station and rocks out*


Hahah, that's what I thought when I saw that post (assuming it was serious, which I'm hoping it wasn't. If it's a joke I missed then it's 4:50am and I've been working all night so shit off).

It's a pretty dumb thing to do though. I didn't find it funny, and it was hardly witty - plus these people would've put a lot of work into setting this stuff up and to do that is just dickish and immature. As someone said one of the comments on the video it'd be like if someone hacked them to make their page blank.

And Inri, I think you missed the point of what Velfarre was getting at.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 13, 2008, 06:02:09 pm
No, I completely understood what velfarre said, she was comparing something trivial as kids shutting down tvs which might cause some people lose their jobs or something like that to someone else causing a train to derail which could cause massive injuries and death. Because as we all know if you lose all your limbs in a train accident you can get new ones as robot technology is advanced enough to replace them, but!!! if you "lose your job" you will NEVER be able to find one again, it will be worse than dying.

But I'm the closest someone can be to a joke account without being one so what I post here is just random trollings with the intent to troll people right Velfarre? Afterall anything that interferes with the AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE: BUY THINGS!!!!!!!! is childish and shouldn't be done at all since it's a crime against humanity.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: PTizzle on January 13, 2008, 06:05:13 pm
^As far as I can see I'm fairly sure the point was more that they are all "kekek we might've inspired a kid to do something really dangerous" as opposed to making a comparison between disrupting a business event and endangering human life (which would be silly, as you're right that the things are incomparable).

I think she was trying to point out how douchey they're being about the whole thing. Which they are.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Vellfire on January 13, 2008, 06:08:16 pm
Gizmodo was the one that seemed to think that story was funny, not me.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Mince Wobley on January 13, 2008, 06:18:33 pm
Gizmodo was the one that seemed to think that story was funny, not me.

So what. It's cool to laugh at other people's disgrace.
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: GirlBones on January 13, 2008, 06:31:15 pm
NOT A FAKEPOST:

i hate ads and advertising and big business for reasons i might add to this post if i feel like it in two minutes, but i am also aware that this is a smaller, simple trade show. therefore, these organizations were probably groups of independent software developers trying to sell their product to distributors or other developers. because of this, it was lame of gizmodo to do as a prank, but it's not that difficult to TURN TVS BACK ON, so whatever.

that having been said, i feel like i need to respond to whatever individual (i don't remember which one of you cunt-babies it was) said something along the lines of "imagine the world without businesses blah blah blah third world etc.. etc..." actually fuck it, i'll find a quote:

I like when people say DOWN WITH BUSINESS but they don't really realize what life would be like for them if no business existed
ie: third world countrys but even worse

yeah, this. this is a steaming pile of stupid, and i had to read it a couple times to make sure that whoever the fuck HANDSOME LAMB is really just did not comprehend what is going on in the world. the anti business attitude stems from the fact that, since before the turn of the 20th century, business has been at the root of class inequality and poverty in america.

because america supposedly does not meddle in the fiscal affairs of its citizens, the distribution of wealth is handled almost exclusively by private sector organizations (i.e. - BIG BUSINESS) it began much earlier, but the whole system of really caught its stride in the late 1880s with the robber barons etc... who, if they had their way, (and they did until the labor movement) would have imposed 14 hour days, no unions etc.

FURTHERMORE (and this is the biggest reason to hate american business) our government is in the shitty state it's in now precisely because of business influence. these organizations have the money to influence legislation and policy in their favor, and so they take advantage of that opportunity. american business is the reason hurricane katrina victims have had their homes forclosed, american business is the reason we have such a horrible illegal immigration issue (because of NAFTA, not simply because they hire illegals) american business is the reason we're at war in the middle east, and american business is the reason that the low income housing on my block was razed last thursday to make room for condominiums.

finally, i just want to add that advertising is horrible, because it's just another method businesses use to trick people into helping them make money, instead of realizing that they are being controlled by the mass media machine.





*puts on tinfoil hat*

heh heh heh now they cant read my brainwaves
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: dom on January 13, 2008, 08:40:54 pm
and that is not an ignorant statement, do you even know what ignorant means? Your logic makes no sense. You seem to be taking this out of context ...to some global world threat level, which Advertisement doesn't even put a dent in(pollution).
im pretty sure if you added up the effect of the whole worlds advertisement campaigns it would make a pretty big dent

Quote from: 'Xeno|Soft
 Advertisement is not a waste if it brings in customers who bring you attention' date=' who bring you money. That is its goal...it would only be a waste of those ads failed to do their job.[/quote']
stuff about consumerist society goes here


Quote from: Xeno|Soft
Also, please refrain from making things personal like calling me names...what are you? 12? If you want to flame go find another 12 year old.
jesus christ all i did was call you a giant idiot grow some thicker skin. what are you? 12?

Quote from: Seawed
Also, the joke would be funny...in primary school. This is just immature and any responsible adult wouldn't go around doing this at a huge presentation like CES. There's a difference between doing this there and a TV store.
Trust me, I have a good sense of humour and this isn't funny.
oh i'm sorry next time i'll defer to you whenever i need to know if something is funny or not

get off your high horse you prude
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: Xeno|Soft on January 13, 2008, 11:35:37 pm
NOT A FAKEPOST:

i hate ads and advertising and big business for reasons i might add to this post if i feel like it in two minutes, but i am also aware that this is a smaller, simple trade show. therefore, these organizations were probably groups of independent software developers trying to sell their product to distributors or other developers. because of this, it was lame of gizmo's to do as a prank, but it's not that difficult to TURN TVS BACK ON, so whatever.

that having been said, i feel like i need to respond to whatever individual (i don't remember which one of you cunt-babies it was) said something along the lines of "imagine the world without businesses blah blah blah third world etc.. etc..." actually fuck it, i'll find a quote:

yeah, this. this is a steaming pile of stupid, and i had to read it a couple times to make sure that whoever the fuck HANDSOME LAMB is really just did not comprehend what is going on in the world. the anti business attitude stems from the fact that, since before the turn of the 20th century, business has been at the root of class inequality and poverty in america.

because america supposedly does not meddle in the fiscal affairs of its citizens, the distribution of wealth is handled almost exclusively by private sector organizations (i.e. - BIG BUSINESS) it began much earlier, but the whole system of really caught its stride in the late 1880s with the robber barons etc... who, if they had their way, (and they did until the labor movement) would have imposed 14 hour days, no unions etc.

FURTHERMORE (and this is the biggest reason to hate american business) our government is in the shitty state it's in now precisely because of business influence. these organizations have the money to influence legislation and policy in their favor, and so they take advantage of that opportunity. american business is the reason hurricane katrina victims have had their homes forclosed, american business is the reason we have such a horrible illegal immigration issue (because of NAFTA, not simply because they hire illegals) american business is the reason we're at war in the middle east, and american business is the reason that the low income housing on my block was razed last thursday to make room for condominiums.

finally, i just want to add that advertising is horrible, because it's just another method businesses use to trick people into helping them make money, instead of realizing that they are being controlled by the mass media machine.





*puts on tinfoil hat*

heh heh heh now they cant read my brainwaves

I have to agree with everything you said, America has been dead for while, I've read so much about this...the America we are in is often called Corprate America. The amount of money they make boggles my mind, like WHY would you need that much money? Its money with no motive.
Hell, some  business write LAWS(that of course favors them) and give it to senetors to get it passed for them. Pay people to turn a blind eye.
Greed is a powerfull tool, to bad people let it corrupt them in everyway.

However, do make the difference between big business and small business, not only that it depends what type of business(in my opinion).
Title: Gizmodo Turns Off Dozens of Computers at CES
Post by: helter skelter on January 14, 2008, 12:57:52 am
NOT A FAKEPOST:

i hate ads and advertising and big business for reasons i might add to this post if i feel like it in two minutes, but i am also aware that this is a smaller, simple trade show. therefore, these organizations were probably groups of independent software developers trying to sell their product to distributors or other developers. because of this, it was lame of gizmodo to do as a prank, but it's not that difficult to TURN TVS BACK ON, so whatever.

that having been said, i feel like i need to respond to whatever individual (i don't remember which one of you cunt-babies it was) said something along the lines of "imagine the world without businesses blah blah blah third world etc.. etc..." actually fuck it, i'll find a quote:

yeah, this. this is a steaming pile of stupid, and i had to read it a couple times to make sure that whoever the fuck HANDSOME LAMB is really just did not comprehend what is going on in the world. the anti business attitude stems from the fact that, since before the turn of the 20th century, business has been at the root of class inequality and poverty in america.

because america supposedly does not meddle in the fiscal affairs of its citizens, the distribution of wealth is handled almost exclusively by private sector organizations (i.e. - BIG BUSINESS) it began much earlier, but the whole system of really caught its stride in the late 1880s with the robber barons etc... who, if they had their way, (and they did until the labor movement) would have imposed 14 hour days, no unions etc.

FURTHERMORE (and this is the biggest reason to hate american business) our government is in the shitty state it's in now precisely because of business influence. these organizations have the money to influence legislation and policy in their favor, and so they take advantage of that opportunity. american business is the reason hurricane katrina victims have had their homes forclosed, american business is the reason we have such a horrible illegal immigration issue (because of NAFTA, not simply because they hire illegals) american business is the reason we're at war in the middle east, and american business is the reason that the low income housing on my block was razed last thursday to make room for condominiums.

finally, i just want to add that advertising is horrible, because it's just another method businesses use to trick people into helping them make money, instead of realizing that they are being controlled by the mass media machine.





*puts on tinfoil hat*

heh heh heh now they cant read my brainwaves
Just dropped by to tell you that I love you~