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Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Laue on January 20, 2008, 02:18:31 pm
In honor of this rare genre, let's discuss what is best of them. Kidding, just wanna know what to download.

I can honestly say that

1.UFO : Enemy Unknown / X-COM : UFO Defense (There were two names right???)
2.Silent Storm series (Only played the first one a bit and it was nice).
3.Heroes of Might and Magic series

And yeah the never UFO games are getting better and better, well except Aftermath. I mean Aftershock is quite decent (reminds me slightly of X-COM 3 : Apocalypse). And I should try Afterlight someday.


So what are your top TBS games and what you think about the future of TBS ,UFO games.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Liman on January 20, 2008, 02:21:37 pm
I haven't played many of these sort of games, but out the ones I have tried I find UFO: Enemy Unknown (which it was called in Sweden) the best. There are tons of stuff to do, lots of variety in the options and so forth. I always did enjoy the graphics and menus of the game - very easy to understand and navigate in.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Marcus on January 20, 2008, 02:44:19 pm
I enjoyed Silent Storm quite a bit.  The storyline and voice acting were atrocious but combat was vicious.  The entire game was destructible and it had ragdoll physics so it was really fun shooting out windows, blowing up walls, and just DESTROYING the environment as bodies flew everywhere and rolled along the ground.  I really enjoyed the seminal freedom of movement the environment gave me as I had a sniper who would climb up on pedestals and buildings to get a clear shot.  Even four years later, the game is a visual treat and it's awesome leveling half a house and then witnessing the fiery destruction of combat afterwards. 

But overall, the best strategy game both in story and gameplay is definitely Jagged Alliance 2.  The expansion packs were pretty average but fuck is this game terrific.  If you put it on realistic mode, it gives you hundreds of guns with various small modifiers and that amount of options gave me this massive boner.  The characters were so fucking interesting that I honestly felt a real bond between me and the characters.  I honestly cried when I got the Russian guy killed in battle but instead of hitting the quickload button I decided that his death was for the best.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: alphasmart on January 20, 2008, 05:24:12 pm
chess

seriously though, heroes of might and magic are great, and the total war series kinda count and are ok if you've got the patience of a saint (required for pretty much every tbs really).

Anyone know of any freeware games similar to HoMaM?
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Marcus on January 20, 2008, 06:03:25 pm
Anyone know of any freeware games similar to HoMaM?

Vantage Masters (http://www.falcom.com/vantage/index_e.html)
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: SupremeWarrior on January 20, 2008, 06:06:26 pm
You could always try Battle for Wesnoth.
EDIT: I've never liked Vantage Master......
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on January 20, 2008, 09:01:33 pm
Everything Heroes of Might and Magic 3. 4 was shit... and 5 was good.... but nothing can beat the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 line of games in regards to TBS.

Lords of Magic was memorable rip off though.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: theHunter on January 21, 2008, 06:26:43 am
TBS.. Turn Based Strategy?

Final Fantasy Tactics.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: maladroithim on January 21, 2008, 08:59:53 am
Medieval II: Total War is probably my favorite.  The expansion adds a truly ridiculous amount of new content!  I also love Silent Storm.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Nessiah on January 21, 2008, 09:20:18 am
TBS.. Turn Based Strategy?

Final Fantasy Tactics.

Agreed.

Yggdra Union isn't pretty bad too.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: jman00 on January 21, 2008, 03:46:17 pm
Advance Wars. :D Still one of my favorites. :D And FFTactics, plus Disgaea.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: pig style on January 22, 2008, 07:10:41 am
Vantage Masters (http://www.falcom.com/vantage/index_e.html)

This game is pretty fucking sweet, are there any other freeware games like it?
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Pipcaptor Hatsuya on January 22, 2008, 10:45:03 am
I like Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis and they're quite similar to FFTactics (PSX & PSP version) in terms of their job system, it's not race-based though. Still, I love the X-Com series, it's not only a TBS but also a management game as well :D
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Hundley on January 22, 2008, 02:16:49 pm
eh, fallout i guess? would that even count?

front mission 3 had some nice ideas too.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Pipcaptor Hatsuya on January 22, 2008, 04:09:00 pm
Hundley, not only the 3rd Front Mission, there's even 4th and 5th Front Mission! I dunno which of the next Front Missions lets you recruit pilots via Scout mode or something...
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: maladroithim on January 22, 2008, 06:41:00 pm
Hundley, not only the 3rd Front Mission, there's even 4th and 5th Front Mission! I dunno which of the next Front Missions lets you recruit pilots via Scout mode or something...

I am so bummed that Front Mission 5 never left Japan but a half-assed port of the original SNES title came here on DS.  The cool thing about Front Mission though is that you can import the games and still play them; all of the menus and general game mechanic information is always in English.  Unfortunately the cutscenes are not, but that doesn't matter since every game is about a 3-way struggle between diamond/gold/drug/whatever smugglers, an aggressive foreign power, and a burgeoning national defense.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Craze /!\ on January 22, 2008, 06:45:10 pm
I second Jagged Alliance 2.

Also, I'm currently playing Fire Emblem 8 and plan on picking up the Wii FE tomorrow.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: maladroithim on January 22, 2008, 06:46:45 pm
I second Jagged Alliance 2.

Also, I'm currently playing Fire Emblem 8 and plan on picking up the Wii FE tomorrow.

The Wii Fire Emblem is probably my favorite Wii-exclusive game.  It's really good.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: SupremeWarrior on January 22, 2008, 07:02:09 pm
I'm backing Jagged Alliance 2 it's awesome I just got it actually...the shit load of real life weapons man....
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: maladroithim on January 22, 2008, 10:18:01 pm
My all time favorite: Alpha Centauri.

Man, Alpha Centauri was like playing a Spreadsheet except with worse dialogue.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: kentona on January 22, 2008, 10:28:25 pm
The Wii Fire Emblem is probably my favorite Wii-exclusive game.  It's really good.
I've been tempted but never bought it.  I haven't really explored tactical games much.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Hundley on January 22, 2008, 11:12:00 pm
Hundley, not only the 3rd Front Mission, there's even 4th and 5th Front Mission!
uh, there's a reason why i didn't mention front mission 4 actually. that game bored the hell out of me, and really added nothing to the whole front mission setup.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Pipcaptor Hatsuya on January 23, 2008, 07:31:47 am
Did some overlook the Tactics Ogre games? I appreciate their persuasion system though especially on Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis where everyone can persuade their enemies but consider their genders and classes though, unlike in Final Fantasy Tactics where you really need a Mediator to do that though...
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: maladroithim on January 23, 2008, 07:25:30 pm
Did some overlook the Tactics Ogre games? I appreciate their persuasion system though especially on Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis where everyone can persuade their enemies but consider their genders and classes though, unlike in Final Fantasy Tactics where you really need a Mediator to do that though...

One of the coolest things about the Ogre series is that when you choose to be a good guy or a bad guy that the game actually has several completely independent sets of content (missions, cutscenes, etc) based on the decisions you make; in many cases this even restricts the classes that you can assign to your characters.  This is much cooler than games like KOTOR or such where the game artificially labels you as EVIL PERSON, but does not actually change in any substantial way.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: goat on January 23, 2008, 09:48:59 pm
Besides the games listed here, I would also say Shining Force and Front Mission are two very fun grid-based strategy/rpg games.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Pipcaptor Hatsuya on January 24, 2008, 07:46:35 am
Only the first three Front Missions were nice, but the latter were kinda liked sucked and excluded to the Japanese community though... I was even dreaming of playing Front Mission Online but it didn't make it.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: goat on January 24, 2008, 09:57:04 pm
What about the worms series? Mostly Worms Armageddon and Worms World Party. I haven't played the newer 3d ones but the old 2d ones are a blast with a friend, and run on just about any system/connection.
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: Laue on January 24, 2008, 10:24:15 pm
Yeah worms rock. There are so many TBS games I've never heard before it seems...
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: RollingFury on January 24, 2008, 11:17:09 pm
For a free TBS type of game you guys could try Battle for Wesnoth.

I played Tactics Ogre for the 64 and I am waiting to see if Nintendo will be bringing it back to the Virtual Console(unless they already did).
The other TBS games I play are Civilization 3 and 4, gonna download that Free Vantage Masters to try it out.

Please keep mentioning other TBS games since they are the type of games I love.

Quick question: Can a TBS type game be done in rpg maker?(any version)
Title: Greatest TBS games?
Post by: SpiralViper on January 24, 2008, 11:43:32 pm
Quick question: Can a TBS type game be done in rpg maker?(any version)

It has been done in RM2k/3, although I think for only a single project so far (so it's likely an extremely complicated process).

There's a script or two for RMXP with TBS functions, but I can't say whether any of them are complete/bug free.