Barkley V108b download:
http://www.tomatoland.org/drdougbeach/BarkleyV108.zip
Changes:
- Fixed a bunch of game glitches
- Joypad no longer supported (Some people had problems, anyone with the 6969696 glitch this was the game trying to emulate a non-existant joypad). Use something like joy2key if you want this
- Music error fixed
How to use:
Replace the old Barkley EXE with the new Barkley EXE and ensure the dll is in the same folder as the EXE. You still need the Barkley resources, so use the topic download link if you don't have them.
Notes:
Anyone who had problems running the game should download this. The game may have one or two instances in the game where it may not play music correctly. Report if you think there is something wrong with the music playback. This is technically beta but I think it works right.
For monitors that don't support 320x240 and you downloaded the earlier version, delete your config.txt and controls.txt if it exists.
I remember Kotaku posted about the demo, so I submitted this to 'em. Hopefully it'll show up.
Looks really impressive, by the way. Good job on getting it out!
there are probably 100000 bugs in the game but unless they make it so you cannot play anymore, we do not care.
just download it, dork
[img]http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/33022/sig.png[/img]The graphics actually look passable this time around, and the messagebox is cool. But I'm hesitating at the 62MB download...
So far I like the fight command options. It's far better than just selecting Fight and choosing the target. My favorite one has to be the Laser eye one, I loved that one.i am guessing a little under half way done.
How long as this? So far I'm atHidden content (Click to reveal)so I'm just curious how far (or not far) I am in it.Spalding Factory
how many hours should i set aside to play this???
However, as a professional game developer myself,
handsome lamb, i couldn't take you seriously after this point.
One thing that caused me to stop playing this game and post this was the EXTREMELY ANNOYING propaganda that gets spit out at me for 4-6 text screens every time I want to save. Although I agree with much of what you say, there is really no need to put this in a game. It makes it seem very unprofessional and just plain annoying and in my case ruined the whole appeal of the game. Now, let me explain why I call it propaganda, yet say why I agree with most of it.I just want to point out for everyone who doesn't know that darknecrid didn't actually say this, it was some random in the demo topic. And that person was serious.
First off, you state your opinion in a very racist and one sided way, in fact, it's states in such a way it makes YOU sound very unintelligent and in fact, ignorant. For instance, you mention how games like Madden and Quake are ruining gaming and how the people who play those games are stupid [this is what I, and many people I have spoken to, have taken from it]. First off, I don't particularly disagree with you, I don't like either of those games or either of those genres.
However, as a professional game developer myself, the first thing I had to come to terms with, (and which you very much need to) is the fact that not everyone likes the same games as you. In fact this can be broadened to the fact that people have different OPINIONS, which can not be validated as right or wrong since they are OPINIONS. Some people are who big sports fans will like playing sports games. Who are you to judge their intelligence? I won't even get into your racist statements since I myself do not want to get into it since it would add too many paragraphs to this post.
Let me say this: it convinced me you are FAR FAR more ignorant than those you insult. But from a professional point of view, this is absurd, this propaganda has no place in a game, especially in one where all the other aspects are excellent.
So in summary, keep your opinions/politics out of your game or you will lose fans. You just lost my support, respect, and that of many other people I know by having such ignorant propaganda in your game. Now I will leave you with a few words from the father of philosophy: Socrates. "All I know is that I do not know anything." Please think this over and try to raise yourself about your ignorance.
Thank you and have a good day.
I just want to point out for everyone who doesn't know that darknecrid didn't actually say this, it was some random in the demo topic. And that person was serious.
Also I just beat Ghost Dad. This game is fucking incredible and even my dad is enjoying it so twothumbsup.
edit: damnit he beat me to it
*sigh*
I'm quoting a guy who posted in the [DEMO] topic of Barkley, as well as one of the truckpump's (based on the very same post) sayings that Chef added to the game. (which makes it even better since the truckpump's saying is making fun of the game the truckpump is in HILARIOUS.)
EDIT: LEARN YOUR BARKLEY HISTORY MARCUS JEEZ
but yeah
great game
ETA on part 2???
reviewhelor
whaaaaaaaaaaat man i heard this was nowhere near finished!
i'll play this tonight.
Remember when Barkley was advertised around the Internet, and GW got a huge spike in activity and visits because of it? Is anyone planning on doing that again? Not only will it obviously help the site, but the game is seriously that good.around christmas time we tried to release barkley with the new gaming world but i couldn't finish it in time and the new site wasn't ready either. i (and drule) suggested it again afterwards but the main site is quite a ways off it seems. when drule is done the trailer chef and bort will SPAM THE INTERNET i think so it's very unfortunate the new main site isn't up because this would probably get GW some NEW BLOOD.
someone make a new myspace page because I don't have the time to because of school/other life requirements.
Marcus Presents a Tale's of Game's Studios Presentation Colon Barkley Shut Up and Jam Colon Gaiden Colon The Game Colon The Mangamarcus do this.
Kudos to Chef and GZ.true barkley fans know all the true TOG KREW members... guass you forgot bort huh? he only made the best sidequest in a vidcon ever... next time you make a mistake like this i will take you off the tog fanclub list.
I just finished it. Extremely satisfying experience, and leaves me hungering for more! When is the next chapter planned for?this is good to hear from a fellow "GAME MACKER" user. i am not doing chapter two, chef and bort will be doing it but they are making something else first (i think).
It was easily the best homebrew rpg I ever played. Big props to you guys. WELL PLAYED, WELL PLAYED INDEED.
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hey Tales of Game's do you guys have an official Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden Player's Guide Book or 1-800 Tip Line available because I am currently nearly done replaying the game a second time and I still have yet to find any library cards or secret hell levels and I am stumped (I am but a rookie slamsmaster...) and since there is no backtracking I do not feel like replaying the game another couple more times right away.i couldnt figure out anything either, im pretty sure its just a joke
edit: also is there a point to the bball breeding or was it just a joke? I trained my bball like a pro but there is nothing left to do in the B-Ball dimension once you beat the arena and you can't get back once you leave so yeah. Am I missing something here or am I reading too much into this sidequest?
i couldnt figure out anything either, im pretty sure its just a jokethe key of Cúchulainn
in the same vein: early in the game, in the sewers near doctor furry's lab place, there's a locked door and the dude next to it says "i hear the button for this is in the tomb of someguyicantrememberthenameof" now when you go to the tomb later, i didnt find a button, but more than that i didnt find a way back to that half of the city either. was this just a joke, too?
hey Tales of Game's do you guys have an official Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden Player's Guide Book or 1-800 Tip Line available because I am currently nearly done replaying the game a second time and I still have yet to find any library cards or secret hell levels and I am stumped (I am but a rookie slamsmaster...) and since there is no backtracking I do not feel like replaying the game another couple more times right away.ok konix, this is a big secret and i want people to figure it out for themselves but since you are in deathtemple in hell i think you should know! all throughout the game there are people who you have the option of being nice or a dick to, like the kid you give a neo-shekel. if you are a huge dick to everyone and then die, you go to deathtemple in hell instead of getting a game over. i think the people you need to be a dick to are the kid in the beginning who you can give a neo-shekel, the guy in the sewers who asks for money, wildman in proto neo new york, dick vitale in the b-ball dimension, and the steambraster guy on liberty island.
ohhh i was wondering what all those were forYeah I am sorry. Bort told me the door was a joke but it turns out he's a filthy liar who should burn in the deathtemple in hell.
also sarah that doesnt help because that doesnt tell me anything at all
king of games, send me a PM with the game_errors.log file (it may not be there, but if it is it's in the same directory as the exe). tell me exactly how it happened (ie. the last screen you were on describe or tell me the last dialog line you saw in the game).this does not work for me.
!ATTENTION!
to people with the title screen error try downloading this exe:
http://www.tomatoland.org/drdougbeach/BarkleyV106a.exe
tell me if it works
ATTENTION TALES OF GAME'S:I hope so!
Will there be an official "Tales of Game's Studios Presents: Barkley Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden OST" (I believe this is the proper tagging format) released in the near future???????
I hope so!Juwanna Mann (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaaliAYbCVw)
I have all the songs that're on the rpgmaker test version (the song titles really put them in context), but there's a few from later in the game not included. Every so often I've been listening to them for like... the past half a year, great musics.
Chef, guys, question. What are the key movies to watch in order to get the true Barkely mythology? I've recently seen ghost Dad, and am downloading Space jam... am I missing anything important out? (airbud?)
Juwanna Mann (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaaliAYbCVw)also watch KAZAAM:
Bart the General 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HwSq3sp8o)
Bart the General 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RLoTjuMffw)
Bart the General 3 (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=127867816&blogID=336386911)
180 people viewing this is nuts
seriously, thanks a lot for looking at this game. i really, really appreciate it and i know bort, gz, drule, and everyone else who helped out with this game does too.
I'm going to also say that the rambling save points are the best thing ever. Is Barkley supposed to walk pretty slow though, or is it some sort of issue I'm having with my system?hold cancel (default x) to run.
gimme all dem chups
Yeah Jester, but the sprint doesn't seem to be built for long term traveling... Seems more like it's to get away from things.
Shanananana shanananana, get a job.
i cannot believe people like this.is this false modesty OR????
is this false modesty OR????everything after the demo is completely different, i think. it really loses a lot of focus on basketball and that's what i thought people who played it liked about it. yes, of course bort and gz and drule and i like the game because we made it, but we were sort of afraid it was too ZANY for the people who enjoyed the demo (WILFORD BRIMLEY DIABETES LORD, the ghost dad, and especially the duergar mines, which is a complete departure from everything else in the game). this is something bort and i were really worried about, that people who liked the demo would be let down because it wasn't as BASKETBALL-CENTRIC.
because like a) you obviously thought it was pretty good as you were making it or else i don't believe you would've continued making it or put it out, b) you know people think you're funny, and c) people loved the demo. is it really that astounding?
I dare ask, who's the artist responsible for the opening splash picture?That's Medieve.
That's Medieve.
Gaddammit
I hate that fucking bucket of sand minigame. I've honestly tried and failed and restarted it over 150 times and I just can't fucking do it. ;akjsdklfjasdjf ajsdfjk; askldj'f
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"If there are bugs I don't care" rip on Night Blade.
man no one even knows who he is no joke sorry bort somebody had to say it guess I owe you [1 bong rips]
Was that english?
gotta have my bugskinda sucked to be honest
also who here got into the secret temple *raises paw*
The game won't start. I click NEW ADVENTURE and it freezes on me. Also, is the title screen supposed to be like, almost off the screen?he said that he is working on a fix. the temporary solution is to rename your music folder
I haven't watched any of them but like...every Barkley boss is ALREADY on youtube
ffffffffuck really?
What the fuck is with the lawsuit thread? is it real or a joke or what?
I must read this. I demand a link.
nice to see the game developing such a dedicated fanbase. it's only a matter of time until someone cosplays as charles barkley or the cyberdwarf at the next octacon...
did this get on kotaku yet.
The second thing I notice is that people are confusing the game with a mix between the old SNES Barkley's and Ninja Gaiden, just because the game title has Gaiden in it. Even though Gaiden isn't even a word, Chef Boyardee must have gotten it somewhere else... r-right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaiden
Also, is there a point to the basketball raising segment? Does that do anything?
after having clicked on all of those links i have come to the conclusion that most of the internet will not understand this game. maybe i have been at gw for too long friends??? idk the first thing that would pop into my mind if you told me about this wouldn't have anything to do with the original games. i think maybe a lot of SPORTSTALK.AOL.COM/LAKERSFAN23 visitors are going to go into this game with some severe misconceptions.yeah I did the same. everyone is just like YES A SEQUEL TO THAT OLD BARKLEY GAME FOR MEGADRIVE!!! or BAAAALLLSSS *lmao*. i mean, there are a few comments about the great plot and dialogue, but most people just shout GOTY (game of the year) because no one's done a baskteball RPG before (i think)
i like how one of the blogs is in spanish, though.
after having clicked on all of those links i have come to the conclusion that most of the internet will not understand this game. maybe i have been at gw for too long friends??? idk the first thing that would pop into my mind if you told me about this wouldn't have anything to do with the original games. i think maybe a lot of SPORTSTALK.AOL.COM/LAKERSFAN23 visitors are going to go into this game with some severe misconceptions.
i like how one of the blogs is in spanish, though.
all the SA forums seem to actually get it.
also one of you dorks figure out how to put this on Kotaku.
he was being sarcastic mog
he knows its a word
yeah I did the same. everyone is just like YES A SEQUEL TO THAT OLD BARKLEY GAME FOR MEGADRIVE!!! or BAAAALLLSSS *lmao*. i mean, there are a few comments about the great plot and dialogue, but most people just shout GOTY (game of the year) because no one's done a baskteball RPG before (i think)i'm sort of worried that some of the people who were like "the story is amasing battles better than ff too" maybe might not get that it is a joke, either. like the dialogue is SERIOUS SOUNDING enough that i don't think it would be hard to, assuming you could somehow ignore the absurdity of everything, think it was serious for a while. the TONE certainly is, mockingly or not.
also yeah we gotta get it out to more languages!
It is somewhat disconcerting' date=' also, to have the destruction of New York city be a central plot element so close after 9/11, and it perhaps seems like the game is trying to garner some emotional response from that. A tad exploitative, perhaps?[/quote']
Talk about far fetched.
Man this guy just pulls some really shitty points out of his ass.
It is somewhat disconcerting, also, to have the destruction of New York city be a central plot element so close after 9/11, and it perhaps seems like the game is trying to garner some emotional response from that.
you must have already seen this but:thats from last year, here's the new one
http://www.destructoid.com/the-internet-presents-barkley-shut-up-and-jam-gaiden-29444.phtml
also FORTY GUESTS ARE VIEWING THIS TOPIC
also FORTY GUESTS ARE VIEWING THIS TOPIC
I'm astonished that the Chaos Drunk has not become some sort of new internet fad.
Yet.
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=40971182
They're playing thru Barkley....seem to really enjoy it too.
thanks for all the laughs team tales of game's. please make more sweet vidcons preferably sooner rather than later
http://www.komotv.com/home/video/14008152.html?video=pop&t=aThat kid is a cheater.
i was at the gym pumping up when two black guys came in to play some b-ball. when i was finished, i passed by the basketball courts to the locker room and i overheard them talking.
Black Guy 1: I bet you I can dunk you.
Black Guy 2: Fuck you can't, nigga.
Black Guy 1: Fuck I can. Bet you a VidCon, nigga.
*at this point I double take*
Black Guy: Shut up and jam, nigga!
*I decide against interrupting their game and proceeded to the locker room, my mind blown*
BTW this story is dead serious.
http://www.komotv.com/home/video/14008152.html?video=pop&t=aMan, you're really cool. I know you came for Barkley but you should post in the other forums too.
This is remarkable, but disturbing. If this kid continues to cultivate those levels of slams and jams, it could very well lead to the next Chaos Dunk... His layups, his free throws, his dribbling, they're all off the charts-- I've never seen B-Ball readings of this magnitude from some one so young. They must have fucking legallized jamicite in that state again. Goddamnit, they knew the fucking risks ... but yet, I knew it was coming ... Hoopz is here.
He's even acquired the double dribble--a skill in which Charles himself couldn't achieve mastery of until late in his life...
May god help us...
The game repeatedly crashes to Windows for me (very early spoile Right after you run away from Jordan, The guards get fireballed, Barkley runs off the screen, Jordan says one more line CRASH. Anyone else have this problem?king of games said he had the same problem. he said he gets a windows error so i am not sure what i can do about this. does it list ac3.exe or something like that as the problem?
edit: I tried the V108 exe and am still having the same problem.
king of games said he had the same problem. he said he gets a windows error so i am not sure what i can do about this. does it list ac3.exe or something like that as the problem?
Holy. Fucking. Shit.Hidden content (Click to reveal)Out of all the lame "arguments" I've heard so far from those trying their luck at defending No More Heroes, the only one I am willing to acknowledge as valid is, "Well, I enjoyed it." There are players out there who recognize how shallow and gimmicky its fighting system is and how lame and pointless its free-roaming aspect, yet who still profess that they enjoyed the game. This is of course extremely natural and nothing less than anyone should expect. After all, people enjoy Britney Spears albums, Jerry Bruckheimer movies and Tom Clancy novels. I mean hell, man, some people even enjoy when you piss and shit on them too, and some of them will even pay you for the privilege!
So tastes are tastes and we'll talk no more of them (at least for now), but there is another argument floating around the internet in favor of the game, a fantastically absurd argument, a myth of colossal proportions which I think it's about time someone finally exploded.
I am of course referring to the whole "parody" argument. This goes that the reason No More Heroes sucks is because it was designed to suck, since it was conceived as a parody of modern videogames. Therefore, the argument continues, No More Heroes is a worthy game which deserves to be praised by reviewers and recommended to players as deserving of their attention.
Now first off, what's important to understand here is that this "parody" angle is nothing more than the latest symptom of the modern artfag/NGJ approach to game reviewing. In other words, if No More Heroes had been released back in 1990, and you'd gone to EMAP towers in London, the home of such legendary British publications as Computer and Video Games and Mean Machines, and walked in and said to Julian Rignall that No More Heroes deserves a high rating because it's a fuckin' parody and don't you get it, dude, he'd have bellowed a hearty Welsh laugh at you and thrown your ass out on the street. Such nonsense was not tolerated back then, every single game publication on the planet was staffed by ultrahardcore gamers, and hence what some people now call "videogame parodies" were back then simply called "crap games".
Take for example Desert Bus, a mini-game (part of a collection) from the Sega CD/3DO era, in which the player drives a bus from Arizona to Las Vegas and back, as many times in one sitting as he can endure, a trip which takes eight hours each way and during which nothing happens, and for which the player is rewarded with one point each way. Now Desert Bus might indeed be a parody of a videogame, and it may even be a very clever parody, but if you pay 60 bucks for it and spend a week of your life playing it then you are also a parody -- a parody of an intelligent human being.
It all comes back -- as it often does -- to dumb kids on the internet using words whose meaning they don't understand nor care to look up in a dictionary. I mean what does the word 'parody' even mean? Does anyone even fucking know? Here's how grown-ups use this word according to the American Heritage Dictionary:
par·o·dy (pār'ə-dē)
1. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.
2. Something so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty, e.g. The trial was a parody of justice.
So a parody of a videogame is a game "so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty". So when someone says that NMH is a parody of modern videogames, what they are in fact saying is that NMH is a travesty of a videogame, which is something I kind of agree with. I don't completely agree, you see, because NMH is not quite that bad -- it is in fact just below mediocre, which is why it fails even as parody.
You see what parody does is exaggerate flaws. So even though we all know what we mean by "a parody of a politician", and we would all laugh at whoever pretended to act that way on some late-night comedy TV show, we wouldn't actually vote for him if he tried to run for president. Or if someone built a parody of a hospital and staffed it with parodies of doctors, we wouldn't take our loved ones there when they got sick. Or if someone came up with a sport that was a parody of basketball we might laugh at the concept, but we wouldn't buy all the gear, train 20 hours a week, set up leagues, teach it in schools, start international championships and devote our lives to this "parody of basketball" game. Et cetera, et cetera.
What this line of thought brings us back to once again is the concept of a game, which is very different from the concept of a book, a play or a movie, and which should be treated as such. One might write a book that parodies Agatha Christie's detective fiction, for example, or stage a play that parodies Elizabethan revenge dramas, or direct a movie that parodies Star Wars, and all those works might end up worthy of our praise, of our attention -- of our time and money. But for a parody of a game to be equally worthy of our attention -- to turn out into something a man can call good without self-disgust -- what would it take for that? After all, it is perhaps no accident that Desert Bus, the greatest parody of a videogame yet made, was never actually released. I mean, who would have bought it and played it if it had been? (Yes, I know, human nature being what it is, I realize that some people would have. No doubt the same ones who enjoy being pissed and shat on.)
So what would it take then to apply the concept of parody to a videogame in such a way that the end result would be a game worth playing? There are two ways to achieve this: through theme only, or through the use of appropriate game mechanics.
1. Parody via theme
This is by far the easiest option, and that's why there's many games that take this route. The classic Rock Star Ate My Hamster (1988) poked fun at rock stardom, for example, No One Lives Forever (2000) was rife with jokes about Bond-like secret agents, The Bard's Tale (2004) spoofed fantasy CRPGs, while the theme of Metal Wolf Chaos (2004) was such a bold-faced, extravagant satire of American politics that, even though the giant robot action found in the game was a perfect fit for the tastes of most Western players, no company dared release it outside Japan. What's important to note is that all these games were above all good games, occupying, at the time of their release at least, the vanguard of their respective genres' development. In other words, as reader sarsamis recently pointed out in the forum: "In game design, humor should be a condiment, not the main meal." So Rock Star Ate My Hamster was, above all, a good board-style computer game, No One Lives Forever was a solid example of late-90s FPS design, The Bard's Tale was a worthy Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance clone, and Metal Wolf Chaos was, and still remains, an excellent 3D action game. The fact that these games managed, through the use of dialogue or comic imagery, to elicit the occasional laugh (or, more likely, the occasional grin) from the player was nothing more than a bonus. Intelligent people play games for their mechanics after all, not for cheap laughs. If I feel like laughing I'll watch Frasier or Seinfeld reruns, or a Monty Python or Peter Sellers movie, or go to a stand-up comedy club or some shit. What I will certainly not do is sit in a couch for ten hours mashing a button in-between two-minute movie clips written and directed by people who wouldn't know an intelligent joke if you smashed their skulls open with it.
2. Parody via mechanics
Here's where the going gets tough, and consequently more rewarding. Creating a game that parodies other games in terms of mechanics is a task reserved for the most creative of individuals. A task reserved, that is to say, for companies like Bullfrog Productions and people like Peter Molyneux. Molyneux's 1997 PC title Dungeon Keeper was an ingenious strategy game in which the player builds dungeons, recruits monsters, sets up traps, and fends off the computer-controlled heroes that regularly attempt to invade. A similar game in concept, if not in execution, was the recent Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki Da. for the PSP. These games took the various well-established (and done to death) sub-genres of "dungeon-crawling" and turned them on their head, producing in the process a new sub-genre that's just as enjoyable. But, and here's the gist of all this, the effectiveness of these games was always due to sound and rewarding mechanics -- in other words, if you stripped the humor aspect out of them you'd still have good games. Last year's Chronicle of Dungeon Maker, for example, was a game that did just that, and did it brilliantly. The story in that game goes that, in an effort to protect a small town from attacks by monsters and demons, a novice "dungeon maker" decides to create a dungeon in a nearby cave in order to lure the monsters away from the town itself. The architect can then venture into the dungeon and exterminate them. So while in Dungeon Keeper and Yuusha no Kuse the laughs come from the player being evil, in Chronicle of Dungeon Maker there are no such laughs. But is this a bad thing? Well, not according to the Famitsu reviewer who gave it 10/10, saying that "if you have an enthusiastic friend, this game will last forever, and you shall never tire of it", and with whose opinion I completely agree. So! Game designers and game journalists and gamers of this world: There is a lesson to be learned in here somewhere, and I think I've spelled it out quite clearly for you.
How the fuck did aluminum foil get 10 times as many views as this topic.
Hasn't everything been done the same?
That happened some months after the original topic was over and done with. After it was Awesomed. Someone reposted it in their blog (and then it reposted ((and then reposted)) and for some reason it caught interest. I remember something along the lines of 200+ guests viewing the topic at any given moment while it was going on.LOL.
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Hey just so you guys know, the staff on the Joystiq Podcast was talking about this game in their latest podcast. Pretty sweet!
Yeah dude, they talked about trying to get the creator on the shower!
That would be awesome hahaha.
I figured out how to fix it. Go to command prompt and type "regsvr32 /u ac3audio.ax".Can you elaborate on this?
i have like nine pics of bort in the shower and a few fanpics of them together, pm me for details.
Out of all the lame "arguments" I've heard so far from those trying their luck at defending No More Heroes, the only one I am willing to acknowledge as valid is, "Well, I enjoyed it." There are players out there who recognize how shallow and gimmicky its fighting system is and how lame and pointless its free-roaming aspect, yet who still profess that they enjoyed the game. This is of course extremely natural and nothing less than anyone should expect. After all, people enjoy Britney Spears albums, Jerry Bruckheimer movies and Tom Clancy novels. I mean hell, man, some people even enjoy when you piss and shit on them too, and some of them will even pay you for the privilege!
So tastes are tastes and we'll talk no more of them (at least for now), but there is another argument floating around the internet in favor of the game, a fantastically absurd argument, a myth of colossal proportions which I think it's about time someone finally exploded.
I am of course referring to the whole "parody" argument. This goes that the reason No More Heroes sucks is because it was designed to suck, since it was conceived as a parody of modern videogames. Therefore, the argument continues, No More Heroes is a worthy game which deserves to be praised by reviewers and recommended to players as deserving of their attention.
Now first off, what's important to understand here is that this "parody" angle is nothing more than the latest symptom of the modern artfag/NGJ approach to game reviewing. In other words, if No More Heroes had been released back in 1990, and you'd gone to EMAP towers in London, the home of such legendary British publications as Computer and Video Games and Mean Machines, and walked in and said to Julian Rignall that No More Heroes deserves a high rating because it's a fuckin' parody and don't you get it, dude, he'd have bellowed a hearty Welsh laugh at you and thrown your ass out on the street. Such nonsense was not tolerated back then, every single game publication on the planet was staffed by ultrahardcore gamers, and hence what some people now call "videogame parodies" were back then simply called "crap games".
Take for example Desert Bus, a mini-game (part of a collection) from the Sega CD/3DO era, in which the player drives a bus from Arizona to Las Vegas and back, as many times in one sitting as he can endure, a trip which takes eight hours each way and during which nothing happens, and for which the player is rewarded with one point each way. Now Desert Bus might indeed be a parody of a videogame, and it may even be a very clever parody, but if you pay 60 bucks for it and spend a week of your life playing it then you are also a parody -- a parody of an intelligent human being.
It all comes back -- as it often does -- to dumb kids on the internet using words whose meaning they don't understand nor care to look up in a dictionary. I mean what does the word 'parody' even mean? Does anyone even fucking know? Here's how grown-ups use this word according to the American Heritage Dictionary:
par·o·dy (pār'ə-dē)
1. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.
2. Something so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty, e.g. The trial was a parody of justice.
So a parody of a videogame is a game "so bad as to be equivalent to intentional mockery; a travesty". So when someone says that NMH is a parody of modern videogames, what they are in fact saying is that NMH is a travesty of a videogame, which is something I kind of agree with. I don't completely agree, you see, because NMH is not quite that bad -- it is in fact just below mediocre, which is why it fails even as parody.
You see what parody does is exaggerate flaws. So even though we all know what we mean by "a parody of a politician", and we would all laugh at whoever pretended to act that way on some late-night comedy TV show, we wouldn't actually vote for him if he tried to run for president. Or if someone built a parody of a hospital and staffed it with parodies of doctors, we wouldn't take our loved ones there when they got sick. Or if someone came up with a sport that was a parody of basketball we might laugh at the concept, but we wouldn't buy all the gear, train 20 hours a week, set up leagues, teach it in schools, start international championships and devote our lives to this "parody of basketball" game. Et cetera, et cetera.
What this line of thought brings us back to once again is the concept of a game, which is very different from the concept of a book, a play or a movie, and which should be treated as such. One might write a book that parodies Agatha Christie's detective fiction, for example, or stage a play that parodies Elizabethan revenge dramas, or direct a movie that parodies Star Wars, and all those works might end up worthy of our praise, of our attention -- of our time and money. But for a parody of a game to be equally worthy of our attention -- to turn out into something a man can call good without self-disgust -- what would it take for that? After all, it is perhaps no accident that Desert Bus, the greatest parody of a videogame yet made, was never actually released. I mean, who would have bought it and played it if it had been? (Yes, I know, human nature being what it is, I realize that some people would have. No doubt the same ones who enjoy being pissed and shat on.)
So what would it take then to apply the concept of parody to a videogame in such a way that the end result would be a game worth playing? There are two ways to achieve this: through theme only, or through the use of appropriate game mechanics.
1. Parody via theme
This is by far the easiest option, and that's why there's many games that take this route. The classic Rock Star Ate My Hamster (1988) poked fun at rock stardom, for example, No One Lives Forever (2000) was rife with jokes about Bond-like secret agents, The Bard's Tale (2004) spoofed fantasy CRPGs, while the theme of Metal Wolf Chaos (2004) was such a bold-faced, extravagant satire of American politics that, even though the giant robot action found in the game was a perfect fit for the tastes of most Western players, no company dared release it outside Japan. What's important to note is that all these games were above all good games, occupying, at the time of their release at least, the vanguard of their respective genres' development. In other words, as reader sarsamis recently pointed out in the forum: "In game design, humor should be a condiment, not the main meal." So Rock Star Ate My Hamster was, above all, a good board-style computer game, No One Lives Forever was a solid example of late-90s FPS design, The Bard's Tale was a worthy Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance clone, and Metal Wolf Chaos was, and still remains, an excellent 3D action game. The fact that these games managed, through the use of dialogue or comic imagery, to elicit the occasional laugh (or, more likely, the occasional grin) from the player was nothing more than a bonus. Intelligent people play games for their mechanics after all, not for cheap laughs. If I feel like laughing I'll watch Frasier or Seinfeld reruns, or a Monty Python or Peter Sellers movie, or go to a stand-up comedy club or some shit. What I will certainly not do is sit in a couch for ten hours mashing a button in-between two-minute movie clips written and directed by people who wouldn't know an intelligent joke if you smashed their skulls open with it.
2. Parody via mechanics
Here's where the going gets tough, and consequently more rewarding. Creating a game that parodies other games in terms of mechanics is a task reserved for the most creative of individuals. A task reserved, that is to say, for companies like Bullfrog Productions and people like Peter Molyneux. Molyneux's 1997 PC title Dungeon Keeper was an ingenious strategy game in which the player builds dungeons, recruits monsters, sets up traps, and fends off the computer-controlled heroes that regularly attempt to invade. A similar game in concept, if not in execution, was the recent Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki Da. for the PSP. These games took the various well-established (and done to death) sub-genres of "dungeon-crawling" and turned them on their head, producing in the process a new sub-genre that's just as enjoyable. But, and here's the gist of all this, the effectiveness of these games was always due to sound and rewarding mechanics -- in other words, if you stripped the humor aspect out of them you'd still have good games. Last year's Chronicle of Dungeon Maker, for example, was a game that did just that, and did it brilliantly. The story in that game goes that, in an effort to protect a small town from attacks by monsters and demons, a novice "dungeon maker" decides to create a dungeon in a nearby cave in order to lure the monsters away from the town itself. The architect can then venture into the dungeon and exterminate them. So while in Dungeon Keeper and Yuusha no Kuse the laughs come from the player being evil, in Chronicle of Dungeon Maker there are no such laughs. But is this a bad thing? Well, not according to the Famitsu reviewer who gave it 10/10, saying that "if you have an enthusiastic friend, this game will last forever, and you shall never tire of it", and with whose opinion I completely agree. So! Game designers and game journalists and gamers of this world: There is a lesson to be learned in here somewhere, and I think I've spelled it out quite clearly for you.
edit: honestly i think this guy is just a whiny little bitch because no more heroes insults his precious animehis name is icycalm and he is a musclebound arcade-obsessed virgin greek sociopath (in japan)
You're from SA, right?ya
edit: Also, Mr. Chef Boyardee, is there any chance of getting like a midi version of some songs? I swear if I could get the Victory fanfare song in midi form, I would set it as my ringtonei'll make you one pal. i've got class in a little so i don't know how long it will be, but probably by the end of the night.
You know I was just thinkin, the only thing missing from this game was an obligatory stealth mission and probably some patriotic American imagery
But even so, it's still goty'08 no question.
ya
we have a subforum that caters specifically to console wars and making fun of those who take video games too seriously. we found BSUAJ:G C1OTHBS to be right up our alley--- although this game greater than anything we've ever done, and we're all preaching for goty except for maybe 1 or 2 jrpg fags
edit: Also, Mr. Chef Boyardee, is there any chance of getting like a midi version of some songs? I swear if I could get the Victory fanfare song in midi form, I would set it as my ringtone
they probably do since it was in the game.
also xelo http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37686/bakely.mid
not sure how midi cellphones work but it should probably loop
yaThis is kind of off-topic but I was wondering if you knew anything about the status of The Zybourne Clock. Was it officially discontinued or not?
we have a subforum that caters specifically to console wars and making fun of those who take video games too seriously. we found BSUAJ:G C1OTHBS to be right up our alley--- although this game greater than anything we've ever done, and we're all preaching for goty except for maybe 1 or 2 jrpg fags
This is kind of off-topic but I was wondering if you knew anything about the status of The Zybourne Clock. Was it officially discontinued or not?
it was pretty much never started and yeah, I guess it was officially discontinued seeing as how everyone involved fucked off.i guess now would be a good time to say this... but tales of games next project is zybourne clock (alternate edition with johnny as the main character)
i guess now would be a good time to say this... but tales of games next project is zybourne clock (alternate edition with johnny as the main character)
the game takes place in the first timeline where johnny sends the zybourne clock back in time (pre-stylus)
yeah bandito i'm probably your dadBeautiful. Thanks a million, mang
http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37686/bakely_1.mid
when the bigshots are interviewing you make sure to say "yeah i came from a little site called gamingw"speaking of which, are you gonna take the joystiq guys offer for an interview on their podcast chef?
guys, holy shit. barkley is going to be in pcpowerplay, which apparently is australia's biggest game magazine. if one of you australians can send it to me, i will pay you for shipping. they are putting it on a disk. there are going to be HARD, PHYSICAL COPIES OF BARKLEY OUT THERE.Congratulations you guys, that's really cool. I dunno maybe they are affiliated with some other magazines that will do the same?
After watching the YouTube video and reading this thread I'm going to skip out on this lame ass attempt at comedy. Why are you all praising this?
It really isn't fun... or funny. Do I have to be black, or in basket ball to get it? "BASKET BALL WAS BANNED LOL it's funny becouse like, basket ball is a peaceful sport but here it isn't hu-uh, the laughter we will have - here's some more text!" It's a take on jRPGs via Basketball... it's the kind of humor you'd find in a bad movie like "Meet the Spartans." Instead of the "flavor of the month" joke it plays on elements of stupid RPGs, great. It's the kinda of bland humor you'd find on SA. The humor is just not presented in a way I would enjoy. No, you are doing it wrong. Replace "here's some more text!" with "Here is another line of unfunny fiction" I enjoy written jokes as much as the next guy, it's not the medium.
- one winged gamer
holy shit chef, that is awesome!even the old version works for the vast majority of people (i am guessing somewhere around 95%+ since this is a game maker error and not an error on my behalf), although it does have some game bugs that i fixed. i would think they would post the site link which will lead people to the newest download, but in any case we are trying to get just a basic site so people don't get confused about the downloads.
Did they contact you and ask you for permission to distribute it (not that you would have rejected them) or did you find out from someone else?
Also, are people still having trouble with the new version that GZ uploaded or is everything fixed? I'm only asking because it would suck if the magazine distributed a copy of the game that only worked for 1/2 of the people who tried it.
guys, holy shit. barkley is going to be in pcpowerplay, which apparently is australia's biggest game magazine. if one of you australians can send it to me, i will pay you for shipping. they are putting it on a disk. there are going to be HARD, PHYSICAL COPIES OF BARKLEY OUT THERE.
haha, Chef and bort and gz, congrats on being the first GWs to bring mainstream press to the site at all.We were mentioned in a newspaper once, back in 2002 or 2003. I don't remember any of the details though. But this is way cooler.
actually Hundley got Google to get very angry so maybe that was in the news.
I just signed up to comment about this game. I finished it. I didn't come here to praise the game, while it is good, I came because of the save point monologues.
They were very annoying and I found myself skipping past all of them after about 4. So what if other people play madden. What is that to you. Why the hell are you bothered?
Just because you like one type of game doesn't mean the whole world has to. I personally hate jrpgs. The last on I played was pokemon 8 years ago. My favorite rpg of all time is Knights of the Old Republic. But I still enjoyed your game (Even though its apparent you know nothing about basketball.) I like this game, but you're an asshole.
Also, WHAT THE HELL IS A VIDCON?????????
I'll be demoing the game on the show. Is there a good place for information on the who, what, when, where, why, and how about this game? I've been to the official site and there's nothing there, but I imagine there's quite the story as to how this game came about and I'd like to give the viewers a bit of background.
if anyone knows details about the game, help them out, i imagine there is a deadline
I'll be demoing the game on the show. Is there a good place for information on the who, what, when, where, why, and how about this game? I've been to the official site and there's nothing there, but I imagine there's quite the story as to how this game came about and I'd like to give the viewers a bit of background.Yeah. This game was made by Tales of Game's Studios, which is made up of me (Chef Boyardee), bort, GZ, and Drule. A whole lot of people contributed to this game too, but we were the main dudes who worked on this.
I'll be demoing the game on the show. Is there a good place for information on the who, what, when, where, why, and how about this game? I've been to the official site and there's nothing there, but I imagine there's quite the story as to how this game came about and I'd like to give the viewers a bit of background.Oh shit, I love the show? Is there anyway I can get GameSpot staff member autographs?
I just signed up to comment about this game. I finished it. I didn't come here to praise the game, while it is good, I came because of the save point monologues.agreeing with this post
They were very annoying and I found myself skipping past all of them after about 4. So what if other people play madden. What is that to you. Why the hell are you bothered?
Just because you like one type of game doesn't mean the whole world has to. I personally hate jrpgs. The last on I played was pokemon 8 years ago. My favorite rpg of all time is Knights of the Old Republic. But I still enjoyed your game (Even though its apparent you know nothing about basketball.) I like this game, but you're an asshole.
ahaha chef that was seriously the best story ever. I have not laughed out loud that much on GW in a while!
also awesome i will tune in to this gamespot thing....... its in like what..... 1 hour and 15 minutes?
agreeing with this post
i hope someone recorded that because the stream didn't work on my computer :(they have a podcast so we can probably download it soon
The game crashes at the beginning when I run away from Jordan. ;~;some guy earlier in the thread had this problem. it was an ac3.exe audio problem. it's two pages back or something but he entered something in start>run and it fixed it.
I'd post a pic of it but I don't know how...
The video of the show usually goes up around 8pm (pacific) give or take a bit. Sounds like the people in the chat enjoyed the demo. The game has sure caused a splash in the office. Everyone was crowding around my desk while I played it.
McLovin, certainly you don't want something as horrible as one of our autographs. You should reach for the stars and try to get the autograph of someone more well-known, like maybe the "Dude, you're getting a Dell" guy or something. :)
All that's left now is for Charles Barkley himself to comment on the game. It's only a matter of time with exposure like this.
some guy earlier in the thread had this problem. it was an ac3.exe audio problem. it's two pages back or something but he entered something in start>run and it fixed it.Yeah I didn't understand this process so I was hoping you or somone else could post up like a step by step jump off because I also have this problem and I'm just trying to slam.
McLovin, certainly you don't want something as horrible as one of our autographs. You should reach for the stars and try to get the autograph of someone more well-known, like maybe the "Dude, you're getting a Dell" guy or something. :)I don't mean to flood the topic like a chatroom but... I've already reached to the stars and have many autographs from such folks as Nicolas Cage, Billy Cosby, Hayden Pantiere, and Mega64. Gamespot are great people, I legitimately want them. If it's too much trouble or an inconvenience, I understand.
Yeah I didn't understand this process so I was hoping you or somone else could post up like a step by step jump off because I also have this problem and I'm just trying to slam.
I figured out how to fix it. Go to command prompt and type "regsvr32 /u ac3audio.ax".basically look up the name of the exe that is causing the problem on google. it's ac3.exe or something like that, you'll see the name when it errors and it shows detailed information. people had problems with this in other games apparently so it's some kind of strange issue.
Not sure what all my problems are, and if a solution has been posted. I have really looked through tons of pages looking for it.download the newest version, it's download link 1. this is an issue some people had.
So anyways my game loads up but besides not having music most of everything is black. I can see some things like Barkleys toilet and bath in his hous and a light post or so out side but the majority of the sprites are missing. The only thing I can see on the balcony is some of the balcony and Gus standing there. Everything else is black. Is this meant to be??
Preciate the help. Ive just found out about this game today and the trailer and word of mouth has gotten me excited.
All I have is Barkley108alright, then you need the resources. download from link 1 and the game will work fine. (just delete what you have now, download link 1 has it all)
Hmm, Ryan Davis likes being famous. Send an email to [email protected] and tell him how awesome he is and then give him your address. You'll probably get something insane in the mail.
At least they got Aquaria...
Thanks to downloadable games on consoles I think many people are becoming aware that just because a game wasn't made by EA, Sega, Ubisoft, or some other huge company, doesn't mean that it's not worth playing. I think the biggest problem people face when it comes to finding games from indie developers is figuring out what's actually good. For every game that's awesome there are a dozen that are horrific (Though some might argue that the same goes for retail games, but that's another discussion). I won't say that we as a site are great about getting the word out, but we do host a fair amount of mods and free games, and we're encouraged to feature them when we're so inclined on the staff soapbox page. I know one of our guys, Lark, wrote a whole editorial on his favorite indie games of last year and I devoted an entire hour-long video to Beggar Prince, the Genesis game that got released last year. The short version: I think coverage is improving, but could still get better.
holy shit ok
so barkley has its own gamespot page (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/barkleyshutupandjamgaiden/index.html?tag=tabs;summary)
and forum (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/barkleyshutupandjamgaiden/forum.html?tag=tabs;forums) where people are already discussing the game and asking questions and shit. Someone like chef or gz or bort should go there and give them some PERSONAL help (that would be nice!)
also the video is out and I am downloading it right now (300mb). I am not sure if I'm allowed to put it on youtube, so I'll just link everyone to the download: http://www.gamespot.com/downloads/6185403
if you missed the premiere and and want to watch it without downloading the large file, you can go here: http://www.gamespot.com/downloads/6185403
PUBLICITY! The first time today I go to You Tube, and this is what I see.. I wonder which one of us was watching it?It's been posted on so many sites, it's more likely that it wasn't a member of the forums watching it.
so barkley has its own gamespot page (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/barkleyshutupandjamgaiden/index.html?tag=tabs;summary)
so barkley has its own gamespot page (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/barkleyshutupandjamgaiden/index.html?tag=tabs;summary)
How the fuck did you manage that?
i look forward to buying TOG shoes in the futuremy togs... my beautigull togs... i hope they are exactly like those awful bapes chef posted here some time ago.
I submitted it to them shortly after the trailer got released...GS/GF take freeware games rarely, but I knew they took Aveyond and this is like 5000000000% better than Aveyond so I sent in a missing game report, and yeah, looks like that may of helped a bit? They add freeware games as long as they are popular.taking all the credit, punk???
taking all the credit, punk???
darknecrid and i TAG TEAMED the internet and spread the word..............together.............
plus i am sure at least 5 other people HERE did this so.
also, also i walked in on my dad presenting barkley to one of his friends yesterday.
awkward.
You are both as dumb as a brick if you didn't recognize it as a joke. They were DESIGNED to piss off idiots. Guess it worked!up yours pal,
:words:This game doesn't cease to amuse me even after I'm done with playing, thanks to all these happy posters. :woop:
This game doesn't cease to amuse me even after I'm done with playing, thanks to all these happy posters. :woop:i agree some people are really fucking dumb huh..............
i agree some people are really fucking dumb huh..............In case if you were reverting to me..
up yours pal,
up. your. nose.
with. a. rubber. hose.
I didn't pay my hard earned gatdam money for a game that has some smarmy ass meta-developer besmirch my favorite vidcons with such reprehensible tripe. obviously you don't repsect your games enough to see how much time and investment they put into western titles but to think that these assholes think it's ok to make fun of my favorite games is absolutely unforgivable. how the hell would you like it if someone came in your face acting all nice and insulting your mom? right to your face? huh? I'm so sick of this stupid argument that vidcons shouldn't be seriously. I PAY FOR THEM thusly; I have an opinion of them; ergo, when you insult them or even ME for playing them, I get fucking angry. a joke is one thing, but those stupid, stupid pump things go way too far and cross the line. consider yourself warned.
Lark Anderson
Associate Producer, GameSpot
What.
What do you mean "what".
If you meant the fact he put his name & position...that's because he posted as a person on the job and acted professionally...
If you meant anything else....then i dunno...
It's just surreal that this is actually happening.here have some chups for your glaucoma
Wait, am I high? Dreaming? In a coma?
:fogetshrug:
after playing through this game i had to make an account just to say: I THANK THEE FOR CREATING THE BEST COMPUTER RPG OF ALL TIME!. From the streets of Neo New York to the B.L.O.O.D.M.O.S.E.S ship Necron 5 this game was just epic. I cant wait for the sequel! i really hope the pump gets over his propaganda thing and returns! Now i bid thee farewell, for i must go eat some chicken fries.
Mishin linked me to this podcast.
http://daveandjoel.com/?p=170#comments
Talk of Bakely starts at 7:40 and ends in... the end (22 minutes).
I did not even finish this game because of the large insult to one of the best games ever made "Baldur's Gate".ummm may-b u should actually PLAY THE GAME????????????
I was liking it until you started slamming on other games. Also, Barkley would be dead in a world like that being that he is probably 70-80 years old + sickening air = death. let's get realistic here ffs. You never even explained why basketball was banned and who the hell would ban basketball? I mean it's not like Hockey or Football.
"Violent Sports"
CHARLES BARKLEY - Date of Birth: 20 February 1963 that makes him 78 years old in this game. He also is living in a poisonous environment.
Drakiyth
No way, I don't play games that bash good titles like THE gods of rpg's "Black Isle Studios", and there very successful and kick ass games. You might as well said fallout sucked and japanese games rule lolzers. I like both genres of FF/Baldur's Gate and games like this have no right to bash on other ones. That's why I will never finish it.
It's terribly unprofessional to slam other games in your own game.
Drakiyth
No way, I don't play games that bash good titles like THE gods of rpg's "Black Isle Studios", and there very successful and kick ass games. You might as well said fallout sucked and japanese games rule lolzers. I like both genres of FF/Baldur's Gate and games like this have no right to bash on other ones. That's why I will never finish it.
It's terribly unprofessional to slam other games in your own game.
Drakiyth
I don't think so, he puts this propaganda crap at the save points. So he/they obviously want you to hear their opinion on the matter. I am a game designer myself and this is by far the most blasphemous thing you could ever do in a game.
People work hard on games and some may like it and some not, but there is nothing worse in this entire world than slamming titles in your own titles. It really makes you look like a total pompous ass know-it-all.
Drakiyth
i guess someone has reading problem. listen up chump: just cos you cant handle the hot, hard truth that gets fired from those truckpumps dont come in here SLAMMING this game. what kind of a hypocrit. and another thing "drakyith", how about you make a game which has even half the amount of features as this? i didn't think so. so put your money where you're mouth is chump, and stick it.
other wise this might be only the beginning of your problems...
I don't think so, he puts this propaganda crap at the save points. So he/they obviously wants you to hear their opinion on the matter. I am a game designer myself and this is by far the most blasphemous thing you could ever do in a game.this will be taken into consideration for future tales of games titles. our next release is tentatively named "erotic eel bowling" and we have already removed the feature to bowl as characters from other vidcons ie. kratos, drizzt do'urden, and pokemans. the error of our ways have finally caught up with us and now we have replaced these characters with the game designers instead. confirmed characters: shigeru miyamoto (i like to call him "shigsy"), hideo kojima, and john romero.
People work hard on games and some may like it and some not, but there is nothing worse in this entire world than slamming titles in your own titles. It really makes you look like a total pompous ass know-it-all.
Drakiyth
this will be taken into consideration for future tales of games titles. our next release is tentatively named "erotic eel bowling" and we have already removed the feature to bowl as characters from other vidcons ie. kratos, drizzt do'urden, and pokemans. the error of our ways have finally caught up with us and now we have replaced these characters with the game designers instead. confirmed characters: shigeru miyamoto (i like to call him "shigsy"), hideo kojima, and john romero.
I did not even finish this game because of the large insult to one of the best games ever made "Baldur's Gate".
I was liking it until you started slamming on other games. Also, Barkley would be dead in a world like that being that he is probably 70-80 years old + sickening air = death. let's get realistic here ffs. You never even explained why basketball was banned and who the hell would ban basketball? I mean it's not like Hockey or Football.
"Violent Sports"
Also, his kid looks to be like 10? How the hell would he have such a young kid at the age of 78? He would of had to get her pregnant around age 68???? You know that's almost impossible right? Only way it would make sense is if he was adopted. Your story hardly makes any sense at all.
Looks like you took more time being "flashy" than "smart".
CHARLES BARKLEY - Date of Birth: 20 February 1963 that makes him 78 years old in this game. He also is living in a poisonous environment.
Drakiyth
Drakiyth, lead designer of Ruins Of Azgayle.
Oh shit THE drakiyth? Of Ruins Of Azgayle?
Damn. Jamicus, you better be careful. He has a point and I really think ToG went a bit too far in this. You need to be careful who you offend and Back Off Buddy. ToG is good, but Black Isle and Ruins Of Azgayle are better.
Black Isle represent for life. Gamers unite. And drakiyth, I have a suggestion for your gams: needs more romance and eroticism.
Now let's show everyone how Black Isle fans do.
Do yourself a favor and quit while you're behind. Please .
someone please tell me this is a joke account
Black Isle Studios = God. Remember this forever because you will see what I mean when Fallout 3 hits shelves even though it's Bethesda. It has Black Isle written all over it.
Also, Obsidian Entertainment is probably going to release a MMORPG based off the Fallout series so get prepared to be blown away. Obsidian is the remnants of Black Isle. Who also created the awesome Neverwinter Nights II.
We are far from behind. This is not a contest ffs. Barkley and Azgayle are 2 entire different games. Don't even try to compare them. It's a great game dude, I never bashed that part of it at all. It's the slurs towards game designers that make me and these guys both look like clowns that pisses me off. Nobody will ever be as good as the old Black Isle crew. Their games were godly in every way. Also, I know this game is a joke game okay. I'm not trying to be to damn serious here.
dude, I completely agree. Games like Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate II (especially with the expansion) are supreme examples of what true RPG's should be, especially with Planescape, its amazing story that is well told is how every RPG should be. There is no other good RPG, because every other RPG fails in story.
Everyone else should just quit, even you, why are you trying to make a game your games suck cause they aren't Black Isles.
I gave up on my game long ago.
i wonder what drakiyth's gona say when he finds out bort's black and from an island...
im a black islander i think i have hte official say on these matters
I'll tell him he made a good game but I don't agree with his attacks on Black Isle. I know it's a joke though, but I got the god-given right to state my opinion on here.
sorry for double post.. my bad.
gw is athiest but NOT RACIST pal you better watch your step :mad:
I'll tell him he made a good game but I don't agree with his attacks on Black Isle. I know it's a joke though, but I got the god-given right to state my opinion on here.
sorry for double post.. my bad.
gw is athiest but NOT RACIST pal you better watch your step :mad:
wikpedia is not a source it can be edited by Anyone even you drakiyth...........
besides bethesday soft is a name i can trust they probably made these games MUCH B!E!T!T!E!R! than your fallout eat poo planescape: the torment
We are far from behind. This is not a contest ffs. Barkley and Azgayle are 2 entire different games. Don't even try to compare them. It's a great game dude, I never bashed that part of it at all. It's the slurs towards game designers that make me and these guys both look like clowns that pisses me off. Nobody will ever be as good as the old Black Isle crew. Their games were godly in every way. Also, I know this game is a joke game okay. I'm not trying to be to damn serious here.
and on the fifth day god made the right to post on message boards and he said it was goodif god had foreseen drakiyth he woudnt have created the universe
funny thing what happens when you go to http://www.blackisle.com
YEA THATS RIGHT THE SITE DONT EXIST
i am finding it very difficult accepting your assertion that this videogame company exists when it clearly doesnt
get your facts straight greasemonkey
who cares bethesda will probably make it better entirely because who here has ever heard of black isle?
ic an go to nine people and say DO YOU KNOW BLACK ISLE and they will say "you mean bort" and i will say no and they will say no they dont know any because its not fracking important uggggghhh
you barkley haters.......hacking ign.
im going to ca ll you hockey fan #1 unless you admit bethesday will be way better than black isle because i dont ever believe the creatrixes of barkley would mislead me BUT YOU WOULD DRAKIYTH !@%!@##
if god had foreseen drakiyth he woudnt have created the universe
if they were "GOD'S" of gameing then why did they get fired and all get run out of business??????????
Well no shit it does not exist. They closed down several years ago because Interplay fired them sadly.
if they were "GOD'S" of gameing then why did they get fired and all get run out of business??????????
i am finding your assertions profoundly difficult to swallow
yeah no thanks??? eidt your OWN wokipeida
do not waive your credentials at me you silly little cretin
Read the article man.
do not waive your credentials at me you silly little cretin
i do not see how my friends of gameingw.net have to endure your pin-head agnostic agenda
hahahhaa dont you gusy find it really ironic that A AGNOSTIC is telling that GOD is a GAME COMPANY taht don't exist
hahhahahhahaha
you will not get anywhere in life and you might as well just kill yourself and go right now to pixel-heaven because you will not get anywhere in life
Hi, i'm new, and i've got a dumb question:
what should i do/use to -uncompress- my compressed folder with all the files after downloading it? i tried stuff like bitcomet but that didn't work. sorry for being a bother :x
Can't wait till an old schooler gets on here and blinks at you stupidly.
COMMENTS CNAN BE POSTED BY ANYONE BETHESTDA WILL MAKE A BTTER FATOUT GAME!!!!
LOOK AHOW QUICKLIY THEY CLOSED DOWN YEAH....REALY "gODS"
use Winrar.
even yo know your stupid.....
I stopped reading your posts after this. Everyone knows the only true religion is Shinto.
use Winrar.
no your stupid because you believe in g-d to begin with and hten you think some pathetic studio NO ONE HAS HEA!RD! OF! is big news well guess what pal im a #1 tog fan and im telling you they are better than anyone so youbetter put up or sh*t up.
i just got a message from the administration
Can't wait till an old schooler gets on here and blinks at you stupidly.
If there was an emote that could convey the fact that I literally have my face on my palm right now, it would go here. ~> o <~
What the fuck is going on in here
shut the fuck up everyone
You are almost as BEHIND as that drakiyth guy (is that even his real name? drakiyth? Thats a really stupid name). I made that one ages ago:
Barkley game is really good, i'm done arguing with people.. I don't want enemies sorry if I can't state my opinion on a few things in the game without having my head torn off.man, you are such a tool. All that pointless arguing and now "SORRY GUYS."
I'm done talking about this.. Good luck with your projects or whatever you're doing everybody. I hope they are successful.
man, you are such a tool. All that pointless arguing and now "SORRY GUYS."
Where's your spine... The true spirit of a Black Isle emperor?
hey guys shitting up a topic that is receiving tons of attention and bringing new members to gw is really great for first impressions.it was funny, i would join a community where people are having fun
it was funny, i would join a community where people are having funi would just like to suck DS's reproductive organ here and highly agree
heh... corrupted administration...
these are very great man. it raises the question: why aren't other barkley fans making fan art? guass you aren't true barkley fans.....Vinceborg: Super Assassin (Click to reveal)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/vinceborgonorders.webp)Slammin' and Jammin' to the Death (Click to reveal)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/barkley-slammin.webp)
why aren't other barkley fans making fan art?
Thanks for appreciating the previous CANON post I made. Guess what? I am AGAIN raising the bar, because I couldn't stop making the BEST BSUAJ:G fan art currently out there anywhere! Anyone who thinks they can do better is welcome to try, but watch out you don't get slammed and jammed. These don't have captions, but you could put one on if you think of one.these aren't loading for me. :(Vinceborg: Super Assassin (Click to reveal)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/vinceborgonorders.webp)Slammin' and Jammin' to the Death (Click to reveal)(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/barkley-slammin.webp)
And I might make some more later, because I'm not a role model.
look at this dumb newb tryin to pass a barkley directx10 gmod screenshot as fanart
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/vinceborgonorders.webp)
i saved my game and quit the game, but when i tried to load my save there was no file :'(. Is there a patch or something that i can dl to fix this?is there any file in your folder called tempa.txt or something like that? basically what files other than the exe do you have in your barkley directory? this is a really odd problem, because when you save, the game refreshes the screen to show the save file data meaning the file had to have existed at some point (otherwise when you saved it would just show 3 blank spots). did you unzip the game?
is there any file in your folder called tempa.txt or something like that? basically what files other than the exe do you have in your barkley directory? this is a really odd problem, because when you save, the game refreshes the screen to show the save file data meaning the file had to have existed at some point (otherwise when you saved it would just show 3 blank spots). did you unzip the game?
For those who missed that magical moment...
Barkley on Gamespot
As cool as this is (and it is pretty damn cool), it would've been even cooler if they had actually shown an in-battle sequence. Preferably with Dread Ref.
Barccoli for Best Member 2008 y/nyyyyy
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii19/GroundControlOne/vinceborgonorders.webp)
Love the game...till it suddenly crashes.two other peope in this thread had the same error. some guy said he did this to fix it:
It happens after the chase scene. You know the one, very close to the beginning. After it ends and Jordan says his 2 lines, it just suddenly crashes (Barkely Gaiden has experienced a difficult and needs to close), with absolutely no hints as to what went wrong, and always in that same spot. Plays fine before that, except there's an odd sound whenever music changes or repeats. Does anyone know what happened? No one else seems to have this problem...I did the obligatory virus/adware scan abd restarted, but it still doesn't work. I've downloaded an older version, same problem. Totally clueless on this one.
I figured out how to fix it. Go to command prompt and type "regsvr32 /u ac3audio.ax".
First off, I am LOVING this game beyond words. Such brilliant parody mixed with an unexpectedly engrossing storyline (especially for being such a silly premise!).download the newest version, saves are compatible. also post the game_errors.log in the exe directory if it does exist.
However, I'm having an issue where the game freezes JUST as am about to reach Necron 5 via Cyber-Dwarf's ship, showing just a black screen and my party. I am forced to Ctrl+Alt+Delete and end process the game at this point.
Anyone else have this problem, or a way to circumvent/fix it?? I'm soooo close to the end!!
Thanks!
download the newest version, saves are compatible. also post the game_errors.log in the exe directory if it does exist.
if you have v108, try this also:
http://www.tomatoland.org/drdougbeach/BarkleyV109.zip
delete the old exe, make sure the new exe and both dlls are where the old exe was.
also if the game froze once there this may be a rare bug i am not aware of, but try doing it again to see if it works.
Hey, guys, in the interest of academically covering this work, I had to remove some of the hype from the article. I would appreciate any help in gathering references from secondary sources, though.Why did you remove half the article. I do not appreciate this and you are messing with legacy and legend. Most of this is taken from legitimate documents.
I do not appreciate this and you are messing with legacy and legend. Most of this is taken from legitimate documents.rofl do you know how wikipedia works
I just noticed that your avatar, is that Barkley with a broccoli head? If so post the high res of that pic up!
Barkley 2
New Status Effect: Confirmed!
PVS (Persistent Vegetative State)
so maybe i am stupid or something but how does wikipedia work or are people just being gaywads about this?
Every single piece of information on Wikipedia must be verifiable or eventually deleted. Citations consist of reference to a secondary source; say, a news article or essay or study. Every single (with some bizarre image rules) piece of information on Wikipedia must also be licensable under the GNU Free Documentation License. Copying and pasting the post from this topic is simply not acceptable, nor does it comply with NPOV rules.
perhaps i am retarded but what is all this CITATION NEEDED stuff about? how could you ever cite that the game was made by people on these forums? no article or anything like that exists of me, chef, bort, and drule all SHAKING HANDS and saying we are forming T.O.G. to make barkley. how can you even prove the game was made in game maker 6.1 but not take our word for it on other stuff? also about the game having two versions, this is a 100% fact (i myself have the rm2k version on my HD right now) unless the citation refers to the fact that game maker isn't more powerful and flexible than rm2k. it's not like someone could edit the article and say barkley was made by JOE GIBBS because there is no proof whatsoever of this. the readme even has my website and drule's website listed which both shows our real names so this really doesn't make any sense to me.
so maybe i am stupid or something but how does wikipedia work or are people just being gaywads about this?
If more people like me existed, the Great Library would have never burned [citation needed] , UNIX and its libre clones would perpetuate throughout the general market[citation needed], and there would be Progressive Rock radio channels[citation needed] . But I guess the world is not ready for having every piece of human knowledge at its collective fingertips[neutrality disputed]...
Yeah, I am glad people are defending my hard work.no, man, hardly any of it is "factual". well, what is left NOW is, but 9/10 of the features werent, for example
I mostly don't understand why the article was tagged as having an IN GAME STYLE VOICE or ridiculous, as most of it is almost "factual". That is the real story, that is the features listed on the game, and THAT IS THE WAY THE GAME WAS PROMOTED AND SEVERAL WEBSITES WHo REALLY features Barkley on their sites.
Maybe it's kind of gauche, but what about a TOG or BSaJ:G MySpace or Facebook profile? I'm kinda anti-myspace but I'm sure it would get the word out.
"HOOPZ BARKLEY IS IN YOUR EXTENDED NETWORK"
http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showthread.php?t=3186
brickroad why does this game make you sad and angry? why won't you ever play it?
It's short and sweet and does what it needs to do, and the battle system is way better than it has any right to be. For some guys fucking around in their mom's basement with RPGMaker this thing had no right to be good but it actually is.
The problem with the story is that it is copied verbatim, and therefore, NOT GFDL. Wikipedia cannot use that sort of content, sorry. If somebody types up a well-cited, original plot summary, that would be acceptable.i typed it it wasn't copypasted
So, I've been catching a lot of flak in #rm2k (my main IRC haunt) about why KC(A) was canceled. The reason is pretty simple really... except for maybe one or two people, outside of #rm2k nobody has ever cared about KC. That's it.
Kinetic Cipher has always been a labor of love. RPG Maker games kind of have to be; games made with illegal software which use resources ripped from commercial products aren't exactly a lucrative endevour. In other words it was a hobby. There was a time when just making the game for myself was enough to keep me motivated. Eventually that tapered off and I canceled the game. I picked it up a few times after that but, after KC#8, I was done. I couldn't bring myself to keep going.
I don't even really remember why I wanted to remake the game, but I put together the first dungeon of KC(A) and showed the guys in #rm2k, and they loved it. I didn't touch it again for a long, long time... until my pal Lys hosted a thing at GamingW called "Release Something" in which everyone would have to release something no matter what it was. I resolved to finish the first few adventures of KC(A) and include it in that promotion, to see if I could get an audience. I succeeded in finishing and releaseing KC(A)#2, and was proud of myself. What I had released was the most impressive work I'd ever done with RPGMaker and I was really happy with how it came out. I had a little of my steam back.
Over the next 18 months I resolved to work very hard on KC(A) and try to get enough of a fanbase that I could stay motivated on the project indefinately. I knew the forum monkeys at GW were not the audience I wanted, so I posted KC(A)#2 at a few other RPGMaker forums. My posts were ignored and rolled off the first page of those respective forums to no avail. So, someone suggested that since KC(A) isn't graphically impressive, I should create a website showcasing some of its other merits. I did that: it's the website in front of you right now. But that didn't work either. People who didn't care enough to download KC(A) out of my forum sig or by word of mouth certainly weren't going to click onto the website and read all this information to have their minds changed.
I trucked along on KC(A)#3, sometimes half-heartedly (although I made VERY sure that the end product itself was never half-hearted) and released it. Again, I was extremely proud with how it came out. Kyrie Desert is by far the best dungeon I've ever put together, and I really liked how I was developing some of the characters. I really thought KC(A)#3 was good enough to stand on its own merits, so I released it here on the site and at GW. But again, nobody seemed to care. My IRC pals loved it, of course, but a fan base of ten or twelve guys wasn't enough to get me to want to keep going. Again, someone suggested that I should open some forums to encourage dialogue about the game. So I did that. You can click over to the message board and see what a big joke that turned out to be.
So I kept going, working on KC(A)#4. Lots of towns and sidequests. Two little mini-dungeons. Another big dungeon. But I totally ran out of steam. I ended up so disgusted with the work I was putting into the project compared with what I was getting out of it (ie: essentially nothing) that I threw the download up on the site without having even changing the download page to read "#4" instead of "#3". I didn't even bother to put in a real ending for the demo or fix any of the bugs.
I still love KC(A). I do not love working on it. I would love to love to work on it, but that won't happen. For a long time, keeping all twelve of KC's fans happy was enough for me. Now, it's not. I want an audience. I can't get one with KC. I have to move on to something else.
It disgusts me that vapid, soulless games get posted at GW (and really, that's the only RPGMaker website that has a "decent" community around it... and the word "decent" is in scare quotes for a reason) and get scores of fans. At GW, it isn't about your product, it's about who you suck up to. I don't want KC to be popular because I whored it out to the right people. I want it to stand on its own merits. Apparently, its merits are not good enough. That's a shame, but it's reality.
This website, and the current demo, aren't going to go anywhere. I might even change my mind later. It's happened before.
If you want to see KC(A) continued, get the word out. An outpouring of support is exactly what I need to re-motivate myself. All twelve of my fans assure me this support exists but I've never seen it. The website's stats don't reflect it. My email inbox doesn't show it. If there really are KC fans out there, get yourselves organized and show the creator that, hey, this is worth working on and we're behind you. Otherwise, leave me in peace.
-Ricky Scibbe
This game makes me almost unimaginably angry and sad, but not at all for reasons related to the game itself (which I have not, and will never play).
man that 1up discussion had me cracking up laughing. three dudes on the street tossing a ball back and forth discussion the post-cyberpocalypse.
they called it the modern day equivalent to ff6.
In his defense though, he did compliment the battle system.
Looks good but how the HELL did it get 16 pages of comments?
Looks good but how the HELL did it get 16 pages of comments?
how many people worldwide have heard GZ as charles barkley now.oh shit that was GZ??? awesome. how much did he have to lower the pitch of his voice (does he normally sound like a 5-year old girl?????)
oh shit that was GZ??? awesome. how much did he have to lower the pitch of his voice (does he normally sound like a 5-year old girl?????)i actually recorded it into audacity and the only effect is that the pitch is lowered a whole 3 percent. i probably should have practised my BARKLEY IMPRESSION a lot more, more or less i just turned on the mic and did whatever i remember barkley sounded like which was not like barkley at all. it it pretty good though i think because i intentionally said HOOPZ in a really stupid way and i am glad aaron from gamespot caught onto this (and you guys should too because that is the canon way to pronounce hoopz).
It's worth mentioning that the Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkley%2C_Shut_Up_and_Jam:_Gaiden) entry in the wikipedia is significantly longer than the entry for Lord Byron's narrative poem Childe Harold's Pilgrimage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childe_Harold%27s_Pilgrimage).*wikigroan*
I think you guys win. You've managed to outperform one of the most important pieces of literature of the entire history of the English language.
i actually recorded it into audacity and the only effect is that the pitch is lowered a whole 3 percent. i probably should have practised my BARKLEY IMPRESSION a lot more, more or less i just turned on the mic and did whatever i remember barkley sounded like which was not like barkley at all. it it pretty good though i think because i intentionally said HOOPZ in a really stupid way and i am glad aaron from gamespot caught onto this (and you guys should too because that is the canon way to pronounce hoopz).oh wow... 3 percent? that's only half a semi-tone. YOUR MANLINESS IS CONFIRMED.
also get rid of the whole story thing on wikipedia. seriously that is the worst shit. how about instead of giving the entire game away in a fake encyclopedia article you just give a brief synopsis. i mean, we intentionally didn't put hoopz or cyberdwarf in the trailer because we didn't even want people to know you got them on your team.Yeah, you guys ruined my wiki.
Hi, I found a bug in the game and figured I would report it. Don't know if it's been found already, but I don't feel like reading 17 pages.i am amazed no one pointed this out sooner given how many people downloaded the game. i think there are quite a few dialogs where hoopz talks in spalding, i would probably have to lock out the spalding building if i wanted to fix this (after hoopz is shot).
This occurs after Hoopz gets shot with diabetes by Michael Jordan. If you go back into the Spalding building to the first computer behind the red door, Barkley asks Hoopz if he can get anything more from the computer. Since Hoopz has left the party, the game just hangs.
It's worth mentioning that the Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkley%2C_Shut_Up_and_Jam:_Gaiden) entry in the wikipedia is significantly longer than the entry for Lord Byron's narrative poem Childe Harold's Pilgrimage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childe_Harold%27s_Pilgrimage).
I think you guys win. You've managed to outperform one of the most important pieces of literature of the entire history of the English language.
Holy shit
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/
Top 10 Games
* 01 World of Warcraft
* 02 Maple Story
* 03 Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
* 04 Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
* 05 Neverwinter Nights 2
* 06 COD4: Modern Warfare
* 07 Ragnarok Online
* 08 GTA: San Andreas
* 09 Barkley, Shut Up and Jam
* 10 Crysis
You do realize that entry refers to the official game, and not this one, right?
You do realize that entry refers to the official game, and not this one, right?
You do realize that entry refers to the official game, and not this one, right?Quoting for posterity
Anyway... I played a bit of this... And I'm not so fond of the setting. I hate that whole ghetto "gangsta fo life" thing, and I've never been much of a baseball player.
"Oh yeah, I think you should refrain from trying to let the actual Charles Barkley know about this. Publicity is nice, but can also be dangerous. The copyrights for using his character don't belong to you."
Rank: 1,749 of 43,556 on Gamespot UK. That really does say something about the commercial games industry.well you gotta remember newer media jumps after being released on any rating site. New movies on IMDB can be in the top 20 movies but eventually fall out. So at some point people are going to stop rating it and it will fall into some relatively set place. It is still impressive though for an indie game
TimeCrash, it was Top 10 PC Games. Not Top 10 Sega Genesis games. And crap why are you back.
It's parody.
You do realize that entry refers to the official game, and not this one, right?
Anyway... I played a bit of this... And I'm not so fond of the setting. I hate that whole ghetto "gangsta fo life" thing, and I've never been much of a baseball player. The gameplay however, was better then any fangame I had ever seen. Seriously, those battles, the movements, the reaction thing, really, and this all with Gamemaker. Awesome, that's all I can say. Now the only thing I'd wish for is this gameplay implemented in a classic "Alex goes out to save the world" RPG.
Oh yeah, I think you should refrain from trying to let the actual Charles Barkley know about this. Publicity is nice, but can also be dangerous. The copyrights for using his character don't belong to you.
This post was so dumb it made me register just so I could reply to it.
Obviously, this person is a bigot, woefully uneducated in vidcon history, and desperate for the approval of others. And also thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
Even after having it pointed out to him that BSUAJ was not released on the computer, he continued to defend his position by pointing out that it could have been. After all, this game was. I suppose he has a point there. After all, Halo was released on xbox, and that didn't stop Super Mario Brothers from being released for the NES. Ok, I guess I should concede this point.
Then there's the subtle bigotry of implying that any game with a black character must be a ghetto game. I like how in his argument, he even uses broken English to demonstrate the way ghetto people behave. Then again, now that I think of it, it was Barkley who famously defended his hard foul of 24-year-old Herlander Coimbra in the 1992 Olympics as "a ghetto thing." Of course, I didn't notice any gangster aspects, except maybe for Jordan's fedora, but by his own admission, he only played it a bit, so I think we can let that slide. I guess I'll concede that point as well.
Of course there is the point that he referred to the many baseball influenced aspects of the game. Clearly he's both a sports historian for associating Barkley so clearly with the sport he's most famous for excelling in, and quite deft at picking up on subtle context clues such as the use of baseballs, baseball terms, and many baseball players in the introduction of the game. There's even that scene where Michael Jordan, another famous B-Baller by which I mean Baseballer, tells Hoopz, another common Baseball term, to keep practicing his swing. Genius. Clearly, this guy gave this game alot of scrutiny before he decided he wasn't fond of the setting. Then again, I guess it could be confusing, what with Jordan being a baseball player, and New York being more of a baseball town. Ok, I guess he was right here too.
Then he says that, "The gameplay...was better then any fangame I had ever seen," only to say a few posts later that he loves the gameplay, but it's not better than Crysis. I was going to make hay out of this incongruity, but then it occurred to me that he probably hadn't played Crysis when he made the first post, then he played it in the intervening 11 minutes, and then the only responsible thing to do was to post a caveat to his original statement. Now I feel like an ass for even bringing it up.
And he finishes this post by informing everyone that mentioning it to Barkley or Accolade would probably be a bad idea. After all, they might sue. He's probably right there too. Of course, the fact that it's not for profit, it's all over the internet, including on several reputable commercial video game review sites, and that's already been mentioned doesn't change the fact that they could sue. And if they did, that would suck. So thank you for that.
Now that I think of it, he probably is smarter than everyone else. Also far more open minded.
-Rob
...Anyhoo, to get a bit back on track...
I heard from somewhere that there may be some kind of expansion pack or something...
I just have one thing to say about that:
If there will be an expansion pack, the music better stay at least somewhat same.
I require my DAH NAH NA NAH NA NA NA DA NA NAH NA DA NANA DAA NA when Slamming and Jamming.
Chef is actually handing the entire music creation process over to me for the expansion, I don't know if you have heard of my work but I specialize mostly in urban country and western music. I know this sounds kind of dumb but it's really gritty and heavy so it's definitely a unique sound. Some have referred to it as "Cunt-Core" and I've been likened to artists such as The Urban Cowboy Effect. Country-Life Magazine once called me "A flash flood fusion between Rockabilly and drum and bass," so I'm hoping I can bring a great sound to the expansion pack.
This is all hush hush though... :fogetnaughty:
There really is gonna be an expansion?well, i guess cunt-i mean steel has leaked most of the info already so....
well, i guess cunt-i mean steel has leaked most of the info already so....Let's not turn this topic into a trolling match, thanks.
Let's not turn this topic into a trolling match, thanks.And i will clear this up: this was just a rather bad reference to steels speculation and "revelations" about the "possible" sequel of The Hoopz SaGa. My intention was more harmless than what i meant it seems - not that my joke was particulary good, it's actually pretty bad!
hahahaha i submitted it to jayisgames, awesome!
Well, thanks, but that still doesn't clear up why I can't seem to get the game to run. It won't even get to the title screen.
I might as well list my specs for the hell of it:
512 MB RAM
32 MB video memory
S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR video card
Well, thanks, but that still doesn't clear up why I can't seem to get the game to run. It won't even get to the title screen.try downloading this:
I might as well list my specs for the hell of it:
512 MB RAM
32 MB video memory
S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR video card
hype is funny because the people doing it didn't make the game. I wouldn't call that hype at all, actually, I'd call that word of mouth!
Hype all happens before a release dude. I didn't have a clue as to when it was being released and neither did 90% of people who played it (probably more than that) it spread because of its merits and its affect on people. Maybe I missed the advert thread, the countless posts about release dates and how great it was going to be or maybe there was none. yeah.
try downloading this:Still giving me the same error, does it have to do with saudio.dll (last modified Saturday, September 10, 2005, 7:13 PM)?
http://www.tomatoland.org/drdougbeach/BarkleyV109.zip
replace the old exe and include the new dll.
if it doesn't work try renaming the music folder to anything but music. tell me if any of this works.
May be some files are corrupt, i get this problem the first time i downloaded the game, try downloading again.................................I downloaded it at least thrice, if not more, from download link 1 (devspace).
By the way, this is a great game, the game play and everything is great......................
Still giving me the same error, does it have to do with saudio.dll (last modified Saturday, September 10, 2005, 7:13 PM)?i am guessing this is a game maker problem then. the game was made in GM 6.1 and it runs on the vast majority of windows machines. here are the official GM 6 specs (taken from the GM6 wiki page):
I wouldn't know how awesome this game is besides watching videos of UltraJMan playing it, since I have still been unable to find the reason why the game won't even get to the title screen for me.actually i forgot to respond to you because i am doing a bunch of other stuff (i am busy making new hit titles like sexy stripper X's and O's and Porno Tetris).
This is extremely relevant event, and I hope to shed light upon it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dti9ROdQpps
SUPERMAN!
Ghastly Darklord was a much harder fight then the boss I thinkya, super secret bosses are supposed to be harder. think omega weapon from ff8 or ozma from ff9.
Ok then, has anyone seen the 1up video review? Now that's big.this has also been posted about multiple times in previous pages
Did you hit the action key to enter.I did, but only where I thought the doors were rather than where they actually were. GRAH BLAH I'M A MORON THANK YOU
Who composed the music for this game? This might have already been answered, but its quite good and I want to commend whoever wrote it :)
Yeah the game refuses to run under WINE in ubuntu. It shows the Direct x 10 screen but then crashes when it tries to change the screen resolution
Penny Arcade Expo 2008 to showcase indie games (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/03/penny-arcade-expo-2008-to-showcase-indie-games/)Oh wow, thanks a lot man. Yeah, I think I'm going to submit it to their contest or whatever, even though I know it won't get chosen or anything! I really appreciate this.
Submission form (http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/27819) - It's $50 to submit, but I'm sure if you threw up a PayPal link you could get that much in no time.
B. What you submit as far as intellectual property and/or copyright must be owned by you or the company you are submitting for. By submitting the game you're not infringing on any other intellectual property owners.never mind.
Edit: never mind.
I really want to start submitting Barkley to CONTESTS or whatever though and I really don't know where to start or what to do. I don't think it's applicable for most contests.
Why nevermind?
I don't think you understand how parody works. :(
You're not infringing on anything, because parody protects you from everything. You "own" the game, since you made it. It's 100% parody which is 100% protected under U.S. law and there is no reason why you can't submit that game at all really. :(
like i know i'm not a LAWYER but I am pretty sure about this
http://www.eurogamer.net/index.php <----- maybe it will still be there when you click this but otherwise
http://www.eurogamer.net/index.php?platform=retro
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93941
thats really really crazy
http://www.eurogamer.net/index.php <----- maybe it will still be there when you click this but otherwiseheh... looks like you're slammin' with the best now, kid.
http://www.eurogamer.net/index.php?platform=retro
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=93941
thats really really crazy
It’s easier to forgive RPG Maker for its glut of unfinished Final Fantasy Starring Mary Sue games when a screwy, consistently funny, and completed game like Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden comes along. We can’t top the game’s own description:
“Thousands upon thousands of the world’s greatest ballers were massacred in a swath of violence and sports bigotry as [basketball] was outlawed worldwide. The reason: The Chaos Dunk, a jam so powerful its mere existence threatens the balance of chaos and order. Among the few ballers and fans that survived the basketball genocide was Charles Barkley, the man capable of performing the ‘Verboten Jam….’
Flash forward 12 years to the post-cyberpocalyptic ruins of Neo New York, 2053. A Chaos Dunk rocks the island of Manhattan, killing 15 million. When the finger is put on the aging Charles Barkley, he must evade the capture of the B-Ball Removal Department, led by former friend and baller Michael Jordan….”
http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/29206/barkley-001.jpg HERE IS A GIANT BLURRY PICTURE FOR YOU FELLOWS
man i can't believe they called it an rpg maker game :(epic failure
http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/29206/barkley-001.jpg HERE IS A GIANT BLURRY PICTURE FOR YOU FELLOWSholy shit
i looked at a bookstore today and it's not the "march 2008" one. i think woman might subscribe and got april a little early. newsstands usually get magazines' next month's issue around the 15th.yes sir i subscribe sir
yes sir i subscribe sir
THATS NOT HALPING
ISSUE AND PAGE PLIX
the monstar was the b ball king, whos madskills nobody could compete with.
A monster created with the use of negative b-ball energies to guard the sacred tombs of powerful b-ballers. But I could be wrong, this is only an educated guess.
:laugh:
Seeing as how all the enemies are either vengeful spirits of basket ball players or dead people ressurected by negative b-ball energy, that guess is preeety educated.
Would you say his guess is... on the ball?
SUPER MAGAZINE PICTURE RPG (Click to reveal)oh man, we are in some anime magazine on the same page as tim and eric.(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/comipress.com/files/images/articles/2008/03/piq1.jpeg)
WE SHARE A PAGE WITH TIM AND ERIC.
whoa, hey! thanks pal, i really appreciate that. or as they say in your language, "gracias".
jesus christ chef.man, chef has said that it's not just him like 100 times, but i suppose it's not enough...
chef boyardee: soon to work for square enix
merci :p
no YOU are spanish.No hablo espanol muy bueno, senor. Cuatro anos no es sufficiente. :fogetlaugh:
It's going to be sad to see this game go, contrary to expectation...eh. Rules are rules.
Uhh... What? Why should it go?
That sounds like an awsome title for a new game, "Chef and Company."
Woaah hold the phone; I want a sequel to Ann Frank before Tales of Games makes anything new.Yeah, I ordered the full version ages ago, but it still hasn't come! How does Anne Frank beat "Drac?" WHAT IS THE POWER OF SPORTS?!
I like where this is going but aren't you afraid to get a lawsuit? Especially if you make a DS version and try to make money off it. Aside from that, nice game. I only played a little bit yet, but I like it.if anyone makes a DS version it would be free and probably only playable if you have one of those cards needed to play roms on the ds(there are a bunch of other homebrew ds games that do the same, many of them probably more likely to get sued then SUaJ).
Also, was this made in Gamemaker or RM2k3?
I like where this is going but aren't you afraid to get a lawsuit? Especially if you make a DS version and try to make money off it. Aside from that, nice game. I only played a little bit yet, but I like it.Well, see, that's why bort and GZ (the masterminds behind this) put chefs name on the cover.
Also, was this made in Gamemaker or RM2k3?
I like where this is going but aren't you afraid to get a lawsuit? Especially if you make a DS version and try to make money off it.
no seriously look how far he stretched the page!!
I hate the fact that everyone is paranoid about getting a lawsuit nowandays. As long as they don't actually sell it, we'll be okay.
And why would this game be on the DS in the first place? It looks like it would work better on a PSP (https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i146.photobucket.com/albums/r257/7002ywehC/BigFuzzyKittenHead.gif)
yeah, basically the game has gotten all the attention it's going to get. it was on all the sites it's going to be on and nobody will make any updates on it on big sites because it's INDIE or whatever and because it is so strange. also the game doesn't have any real staying power. it's funny the first time but after that it sort of isn't and you get tired of it.
I'm so bored I'm actually playing this.
(probably forever, barring Barkley himself being like WHOA WHAT)
Yeah I wonder man it would be way too cool if Charles Barkley filed a defamation case or something (well that would actually suck but).pretty sure this is safe since it's parody
I might be wrong about this but I don't think it works that way for defamation? Not sure though.He'd have to prove that this game is damaging his career.
i have never actually played barkley shut up and jam.
This game is in swedish PC Gamer :)
The Magazine or the game? Cause I'll sell you the game for.... 5 bucks.oh snap
Guys... this game was a joke... and you all fell for it.
Although this game is a joke, I'm giving it a (short) review.Thanks for the review! Great review!
The battle system is neat and original, although it reminds of the FF BS. However, the battlechar sprite style is way too inconsistent and pretty much bad. The same goes for charsets and the facesets. (I'd rate the charsets higher IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT CRAPPY LEBRON JAMES CHAR.) The music was great... but I see that most of the sfx is from the rpg maker rtp... :/
Pretty elaborate for a joke isn't it?
Oh, and I forgot to mention that the storyline is a bit too... awesome
There, I fixed it for you.Yeah, we're working on a new version of Barkley without all the basketball.
By the way, Chef, GZ, Drule, Bort, etc. Is there a new TOG game in the works? Because I am not lying when I say this is my favorite RPG ever.
better basketball than saving anime princesses.
By the way, Chef, GZ, Drule, Bort, etc. Is there a new TOG game in the works? Because I am not lying when I say this is my favorite RPG ever.gz, konix, and bunnymilk all worked on barkley and have since branched off and are making their own rpg separate from TOG. idk if this really answers your question though, but gz was one of the driving forces behind barkley and always makes worthwhile things
well, you'll be seeing this in the igf. hope we're not up against laz or cactus or anyone cool like that. I'M PRETTY EXCITED!!!
if you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest my friend. :shrug:
if you can't slam with the best, then jam with the rest my friend. :shrug:
There's nothing wrong with making comedy games, but you first need comedic talent to do so. Also, it helps if it doesn't look like someone vomited over a tablet whilst in paint to produce 99% of the graphics. But, whatever... :blarg:I will remember this in the future. Thanks for this.
better than 100% of all amateur games
This reminded me of this game:Wait don't tell me that Barkley will come back to the Nba and do chaos dunk? I don't want to die in a huge explosion, somebody help me!!!!!!!!
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/shaq_finds_mysterious_inscriptions?utm_source=a-section
"I can only believe that encrypted in that seeming gibberish is a deeper meaning, perhaps the ancient secrets of the known universe or even the NBA itself."
I wonder if someone at The Onion is a fan?
what a weird blog entry to make. he just quoted the barkley press release. I feel lame as fuk for even being annoyed by it but come on.He didn't say worst game ver, but worst nba game ever. There is a difference.
WORST GAME EVER THIS ONE WHY? WELL *copy paste*
Well, most if not all sites that claim that SUAJ:G is a horrible game seem to be referring to the old RPG Maker 2003 version, as that is the only video they ever have. And I'll admit, the rpg maker version doesn't exactly scream 'amazing', especially with the broken font and basic battle animations such as the fire breath animation and stiff battlechar movement.The youtube vids were from rpg2k3? My god it looks good even then...
The youtube vids were from rpg2k3? My god it looks good even then...
Hey, that's actually pretty awesome. I also want to mention that Tales of Game's will be releasing something pretty soon, hopefully Sunday when I get back.So did anything ever get released then?
So did anything ever get released then?it's been done for like a month, i'm just too lazy to make the trailer. also i really can't at the moment because ramci is staying with me.
it's been done for like a month, i'm just too lazy to make the trailer. also i really can't at the moment because ramci is staying with me.Do you want me to try a go at a trailer?
http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2009/03/worst-nba-video-games-of-all-time.html
However, user comments say differently!
I saw the ending sequence to CBSUAJ:G (it was posted by Latin D on "Dunkin Cheerleaders" a while back).
It is beyond epic. It is legendary. My monitor almost shattered it was so powerful. I had to smoke a cigarette afterward; and I'm a non-smoker.
Shut up and jam? How about you just shut up
Dear Tales of Games
I recently downloaded and played your Charles Barkley RPG. When I started it out, I thought it was pretty interesting. It toed the line between parody and serious fan-fiction work. The fighting engine was something different, yet still stayed in the realm of the classic top-down RPG.
The problem I encountered was in trying to save the game. The save function worked just fine... but every time I tried to save, I was forced to talk to some gasoline pump, and read about ten text boxes worth of bullshit. Claiming all 'westerners' were idiots, when this game was obviously created by a westerner. Talking shit about sports games, when this game itself revolves around sports, and steals graphics from several sports games. Talking shit about rap music, when the only other game on your Tales of Games site is about the Wu-Tang Clan.
As I went through, and got into the underground sewer area, things became clear. The Cesspool X area was full of furries that obviously were meant to represent your forum members, friends, etc. Being forced to fast-forward through a bunch of bullshit about 'vidcoms'... by the way, in the real world NOBODY USES THAT TERM... every time I wanted to save was annoying enough. But having to put up with fucking furries in a self-fulfillment with a bunch of furries in love? Not to mention this Square-Enix-Goya bullshit.
Yeah. You try to talk serious about how anybody who doesn't love exactly what you love, in the exact way you love it, is an idiot. Yet you're making a game about basketball in the future that uses shitty movies like Space Jam, Juwanna Mann and Ghost Dad as canon.
Entering the Spaulding building, the bullshit level went through the roof. Not only was that idiotic pump talking about this vidcom anime-head bullshit, but now the main characters were using that language. That's when I quit playing.
This game started out as something interesting and intriguing. Little did I know that the programmers that were creating it had cocks jammed up their assholes while listening to shitty anime soundtracks. There are GOOD sports games out there. There are BAD JRPGs and anime out there. They're VIDEO GAMES, not vidcoms. You're all idiots.
BTW, I beat your Wu-Tang game in ten minutes. "YOU SAVED THE WU-TANG BABY!" This brilliant ending convinced me I wouldn't be missing anything by quitting playing your RPG. Standing, of course, for really pathetic game.
Shut up and jam? How about you just shut up?
P.S.- Why are you using Hanna Barbara characters? If this game uses Space Jam as it's canon, shouldn't it be... I don't know... WARNER BROTHERS CARTOON CHARACTERS?
That's when I quit playing.
well thanks for being 'Honest'!! :fogetlaugh: :fogetlaugh:Haha, thanks man. Yeah, the poem is my favorite part too, although I think my favorite line is when you're doing that dating sim and the Cyberdwarf says "Do you have a bushel of granny smiths down your pants because you got one fine applebottom". When I look at Barkley now, there's so much I want to add and do over again. It's really good but I think we can easily do much better now.
also uh this game was released when i started coming here and i never got around to posting in this topic but it rules. in the part where you compose the poem for the snail i laughed so hard i cried (also SUgar suGAR SuGar and the Cyberdwarf and "I think ghosts are like dogs and just sort of do things arbitrarily" and lots of other stuff i'm forgetting!). far too late but you know BELATED PROPS because this is the best game
Haha, thanks man. Yeah, the poem is my favorite part too, although I think my favorite line is when you're doing that dating sim and the Cyberdwarf says "Do you have a bushel of granny smiths down your pants because you got one fine applebottom". When I look at Barkley now, there's so much I want to add and do over again. It's really good but I think we can easily do much better now.are you doing anything else now?
But thanks man, I mean it.
There is a newer version for a very obscure music bug that a very small percentage of people experienced. The last version release is actually 1.09:
http://members.shaw.ca/skewed/BarkleyV109.zip
Replace the EXE with the version 1.09 exe, and make sure the bass.dll and BGM.dll are in the same folder as the 1.09 exe. In other words, drag all three files into the main barkley folder and use 1.09 to boot the game.
wow people and their complete lack of imagination or humor