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Title: LOST - SEASON 4 IS NOW OVER!
Post by: Mateui on February 01, 2008, 03:34:38 am
Well, LOST is back!

It just aired it's first episode of the fourth season tonight, and it was great. The rest of this post obviously contains spoilers from Episode 1, so do not continue reading unless you wanted to know what happened or have already seen it. The policy in this topic regarding spoilers will be that once the show has aired in America it's fair game to be discussed here without spoiler text. If you have inside info about upcoming episodes that have not yet aired, then that should be spoilerified.

Now that that's out of the way, onto my thoughts!

I was glad that it was a Hurley-centric episode, and so much more happy that instead of flash backs we're getting flash forwards now. With Hurley mentioning the "Oceanic 6" I got flashbacks of the 4400 (lol) but now I'm wondering who the other 3 people who get off the island are, and how Hurley ends up leaving since he did side with Locke.. Hmm, the dynamic between the two groups is going to be interesting to watch in the next couple of episodes. I can't wait!

What was with Charlie though? He was pointed out by another patient to Hurley so I find it more difficult to believe that he was in Hurley's imagination.. Yet the writers have denied time and again the purgatory theory.. I really don't know what to believe at this point.. tricky tricky. Also, I have to say that Jacob really freaks me out.. I don't know, there's just something so frightening about an invisible, sometimes visible man just sitting in a rocking chair in the middle of an abandoned house.. *shudders*. I really hope that he's explored further as time goes on.

We're supposed to get this impression that Naomi's people are extremely evil and will kill everyone but really I just don't see that happening. I mean, I don't see what their motivation could be besides being a rival company interested in the island and the mysterious things going on it, but to come in to kill people for no reason? I'm not seeing it.

Well, I could go on further but what are some of your thoughts on this episode?
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Post by: pburn on February 01, 2008, 03:50:30 am
I vageuly remember the stuff that happened in seasons 1-3, so alot of it was kinda shady for me. I'm not really sure if I enjoyed it or not, but at the same time I like the direction it's going and the way they're extending the storyline. Obviously it seems the writers are going to be playing with our mentality towards certain characters as they did with Ethan Rom.

Like Mateui, the choice as Hurley as the center of the episode was awesome. Having Jack on each pilot is freggin boring , and Hurley IS one of the best characters so.

I'm a bad writer, I'm a bad typist, I can't really explain what I want to say here. Mateuit got it all covered. It's a very satisfying episode and so far this season will exceed season 3. After all, focus on mystery and suspense has been restored as much as it can at this time.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 01, 2008, 04:17:38 am
I just purposefully skipped reading both posts here because of spoilers and then I realised I'm being dumb because there would never be spoilers in the first episode of a show that takes snail's pace to a pretty damning new low.
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Post by: Tau on February 01, 2008, 04:53:29 am
I thought they should have ended it at a 2nd season, because that first season was amazing, 2-3 have just been dragging it on really, although I probably will see this season because I hate unanswered cliff hangers!

And does anyone if Lost is supposedly going to be 9 seasons!, finish in 2010 or something? heard it somewhere.
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Post by: Comix on February 01, 2008, 05:08:51 am
It's going until the 6th season, with 4, 5, and 6 only having 16 episodes per season.

I've only watched the first season so far, which I bought after watching the Pilot at a friends.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 01, 2008, 06:14:21 am
Haha six seasons.
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Post by: Mateui on February 01, 2008, 03:04:01 pm
Haha six seasons.
I think that's great. Before the writers had no idea when the show was going to end so they had to drag the story along. Now that they have a definite time table for the number of episodes they have left they can plan accordingly and speed up the pace.

Also, someone screencapped who was sitting in Jacob's chair...
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2558/facecabinlh1.png)
Dun dun dun! Christian is always appearing on the island.
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Post by: Shinan on February 01, 2008, 06:39:35 pm
Dun dun dun! Christian is always appearing on the island.
Yeah, I caught that last "Lost Missing Piece" or whatever and it was kinda freaky. I'm wondering though if not all of these manifestations are just the Jacob (or the smoke-thing. Or the Island itself), the real question is though how did these manifestations get off the island in Hurley's flashforward (since the other guy could see him Charlie also)

The eye that followed though. Who was that? Hanging with Christian in the hut.

I thought the first episode was okay. It set up a lot of things for the season (who makes it, who doesn't) and with Naomi's... Weird way of doing things it cast a bit of doubt as to the outsiders' motives. It's not Penny's boat but they're probably not as bad as Locke or Ben wants to paint them as. There'll probably be a bunch of factions being set up. (Though I think Penny's faction won't be present until next season)

The actual first episode's content was a bit empty though. Though I also understand why they basically just redid the last season's finale since it's been a while. What we got to know was that Charlie died, that Naomi (re)died, that the outsiders weren't Penny's and that contact was made with them. The only real progression was the divide between the ones who wanted to be rescued and those who didn't.

(Also interesting in the flashforward where Jack doesn't want to get back but in some time when he's grown a beard he desperately wants to. What makes him want to go back? I guess that'll be revealed and there's not a whole lot to speculate on at the moment)

Alright some random thoughts. It's good to get the Lost fix now again after nearly a year. Let's just hope that strike ends so we get a 16 episode season and not an 8 episode one.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on February 01, 2008, 08:57:45 pm
I really like the direction this season is going, and it actually seems like they're stepping up the
pace. This pilot is probably the best one since the 1st season.

Other than that, the Character playing Ben said, during an interview,
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Post by: Liman on February 02, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
I thought it was a great season premiere episode. It had a lot of "What" and "Oh Shit" moments. The whole Jacob part was somewhat scary... was that another house Hurley saw when he ran?

Something I really do enjoy are the flash forwards. I always like knowing what happens to the characters in a film/series after the main events. Usually films end right after the main guy survives an explosion. You know he survived but you don't know what happened in his life afterwards. That's kinda boring to me. The Flash forwards in Lost however tells you this... to a certain extent. I personally think the episodes will eventually catch up to the Flash forwards and the final season will deal with the Oceanic 6 going back to save the rest.
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Post by: SEimagery on February 03, 2008, 03:59:21 am
Wtf was with that black guy that visited Hurley?!

And the Oceanic 6...Jack, Kate, Hugo, and? ANy guesses? What happened to the rest?

Whos funernal was that, that no one showed up too? My thoughts are Lock is still on the island at that time. I can't see him leaving it.
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Post by: pburn on February 03, 2008, 11:45:56 pm
Ok guys, what the fuck is going on.

As you probably know, I read alot of Marvel comic books. Now, alot of the books from my pull this month have the OCEANIC AIRLINES logo somewhere, usually on some sort of VEHICLE. What I've seen so far is in Daredevil #104 and New Avengers Annual #2.

IS THIS SOME KIND OF SIGN.

ARE HEROES LOST AND MARVEL IN THE SAME UNIVERSE!?
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 03, 2008, 11:56:54 pm
Hmmm. And lost characters have been seen drinking slusho...

!!!

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Post by: Randy Moist on February 04, 2008, 05:34:16 pm
1. The shorter seasons is the dumbest shit ever. I never watched Alias but apparently Abrams was very willing to end it before dragging it on, despite being very popular still. Well that's good, I like to know this isn't something that will be on forever. But instead of being decent people they shortened the seasons so they could be on TV longer. Filler is better than that in my opinion.

2. Shinan's right and I just noticed this, almost nothing new happened this episode. Pretty disappointing looking back on it. It wasn't bad and they did throw us a lot of bones, but the guy landing on the island was pointless. Season 2 and 3 had such great finales but both piss poor first episodes back, and apparently 4 is no different.

3. Love flash forwards hopefully flash backs won't be completely gone. I enjoy guessing which it is.

4. Also, my guess at the 6 is Jack, Hurley, Kate, Sawyer (unless another male character with a strong connection to Kate jumps in), Ben (dies and has funeral), Locke (horribly depressed again)
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Post by: HL on February 04, 2008, 05:44:31 pm
Ok guys, what the fuck is going on.

As you probably know, I read alot of Marvel comic books. Now, alot of the books from my pull this month have the OCEANIC AIRLINES logo somewhere, usually on some sort of VEHICLE. What I've seen so far is in Daredevil #104 and New Avengers Annual #2.

IS THIS SOME KIND OF SIGN.

ARE HEROES LOST AND MARVEL IN THE SAME UNIVERSE!?

Oceanic Airlines isn't a purely Lost thing. It's been used in several movies/TV shows.
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Post by: Lyndon on February 04, 2008, 06:40:07 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_Airlines
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Post by: pburn on February 08, 2008, 03:10:46 am
Oh man, Confirmed Dead was an EXCELLENT episode. The new cast and characters are great, ESPECIALLY Jeff Fahey and Ken Leung. That single episode answered a shitload of questions but the same time added so much more. It seems this time the show is much more focused and it actually has a direction. The flashbacks are really epic also.

I'm REALLY digging this.
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Post by: Lyndon on February 08, 2008, 06:31:47 pm
Just watched the new episode and it was awesome!

I always get angry when it finishes though :/
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Post by: Ryan on February 08, 2008, 06:51:54 pm
yeah the last episode was really good. things are really starting to pick up
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Post by: local_dunce on February 08, 2008, 09:51:23 pm
Just want to say that I'm going to be a few days behind on checking this topic because I don't want to run into any spoilers. Not that there would be any but if you're going to post something you think might be considered a spoiler just put it in spoilers. Better safe than sorry. Thanks guys.
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Post by: HL on February 08, 2008, 11:54:54 pm
Just want to say that I'm going to be a few days behind on checking this topic because I don't want to run into any spoilers. Not that there would be any but if you're going to post something you think might be considered a spoiler just put it in spoilers. Better safe than sorry. Thanks guys.

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Post by: local_dunce on February 09, 2008, 11:45:01 am
Yeah I know I read that, I am saying that as a brit and as the moderator of the forum it's my job to check the topic but I'm conflicted because the show doesn't air over here for like a week after you guys so I can either a) not check the post and leave it all to mat or b) you can just put shit into spoilers.
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Post by: big ass skelly on February 09, 2008, 07:30:19 pm
Are these episode titles snide comments on the quality of the show by any chance?

beginning of the end, confirmed dead
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Post by: Warped655 on February 14, 2008, 09:38:38 pm
I just watched every episode of every season of this show in like a 2-4 day period (I'm not sure how long, time seemed to not matter) for the first time. I'm pretty sure I'm obsessed. When I wasn't watching Lost, I was talking about lost, when I wasn't talking about lost I was thinking about lost...

I have to say... this is one of the most intriguing TV shows I have ever watched. The wait for the next episode is nearly unbearable... every episode has ended with a WTF or a OH SNAP feeling.
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Post by: Liman on February 16, 2008, 12:41:04 am
So I just saw the third episode. A couple of weird but interesting things happened, a few twists. Thought it was a pretty good episode overall. Right now it feels like the writers are making a mess for themselves (not a bad one though) with all the flashforwards and stuff, but since they know when to end it I assume they know what they are doing.

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Post by: Ryan on February 16, 2008, 07:08:13 pm
i thought the last episode was the best episode in a long time. it had tons of twists and was really good
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Post by: ATARI on February 17, 2008, 10:39:08 pm
i thought the last episode was the best episode in a long time. it had tons of twists and was really good

Yeah I agree.  From past experiences though, any episodes that centers around Sayid has always been good, and this of course, was no exception.
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Post by: Ryan on February 18, 2008, 04:25:56 am
yeah Sayid is one of my favorite characters from Lost.
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Post by: Liman on February 18, 2008, 12:16:04 pm
yeah Sayid is one of my favorite characters from Lost.

The man has the longest fingernails in the history of mankind though.
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Post by: pburn on February 22, 2008, 03:15:50 am
I really dug this new episode. Normally I hate Kate's episodes, but this one manages to bring all of them together into a showdown, an end to the rather lackluster fugitive saga.

Plus, Ken Leung's character is so badass.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on February 22, 2008, 07:31:41 pm

This was awesome. It's a shame I didn't have that feeling the entire episode, but I
found myself waiting for the final line for five minutes during the ending.

You just knew shit like this was going to be coming down.

They're doing a brilliant job on the new season. I'm having high hopes for the rest
of the series.
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Post by: Liman on February 22, 2008, 10:47:59 pm
Oh my god, what happened to poor , that's all I have to say!
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Post by: The Riddler on February 23, 2008, 12:49:37 am
Oh my god, what happened to poor , that's all I have to say!

What did happen to her?
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on February 23, 2008, 02:21:39 am
What did happen to her?


Well, since Kate is that means something must have happened to her. :fogetcry:
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Post by: Warped655 on February 23, 2008, 06:48:09 am
yeah, what Locke did sort of threw me off. I mean... he is fucking crazy... I like him as a character... A LOT but... he is annoyingly illogical. Thats one of the few things about the characters in this series is that they make decisions that aren't sane or logical a lot. then again, that might be because as a viewer that can "see all" it makes their 'wrong' decisions seem more illogical then they actually are... and I suppose being on this island can make a person crazy...

As for Kate, I can also say that the whole fugitive thing is is kind of old. and glad that it comes to an end in the near future. I hope this "foresight" thing goes away soon... and never comes back... it makes the chronological order of the series kind hard to follow.

The thing with Ben doesn't really make me more curious about him (thus it doesn't make me ask more questions), nor does it really answer any questions about him that I already have. seems petty compared to what is probably actually going on here... and I hope it is. I mean, does anyone here remember the ? I mean WTF was that?
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Post by: CorporateGreed on February 23, 2008, 03:51:07 pm
yeah, what Locke did sort of threw me off. I mean... he is fucking crazy... I like him as a character... A LOT but... he is annoyingly illogical. Thats one of the few things about the characters in this series is that they make decisions that aren't sane or logical a lot. then again, that might be because as a viewer that can "see all" it makes their 'wrong' decisions seem more illogical then they actually are... and I suppose being on this island can make a person crazy...

Actually, it doesn't really surprise me.

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As for Kate, I can also say that the whole fugitive thing is is kind of old. and glad that it comes to an end in the near future. I hope this "foresight" thing goes away soon... and never comes back... it makes the chronological order of the series kind hard to follow.

Yeah, the way the show is presented, and the feel it gives changed with the introduction of the flash-forwards.
At first, they told you about the characters. Now they seem to have moved on to making everything seem
weirder and more mysterious than ever. It's like they're trying to make you look forward to events in the future
in a whole new way. It's a stroke of genius, but I'm not sure I want to know what happens in the future yet.

I'd have been content with not knowing wether they would get off the island.

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The thing with Ben doesn't really make me more curious about him (thus it doesn't make me ask more questions), nor does it really answer any questions about him that I already have. seems petty compared to what is probably actually going on here... and I hope it is. I mean, does anyone here remember the ? I mean WTF was that?

As for that, it has been said they're going to answer that question this season. Patience, young padawan. Patience.
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Post by: Liman on February 23, 2008, 07:07:53 pm
yeah, what Locke did sort of threw me off. I mean... he is fucking crazy... I like him as a character... A LOT but... he is annoyingly illogical. Thats one of the few things about the characters in this series is that they make decisions that aren't sane or logical a lot. then again, that might be because as a viewer that can "see all" it makes their 'wrong' decisions seem more illogical then they actually are... and I suppose being on this island can make a person crazy...

I agree with CorporateGreed, Locke's character is slowly heading to madness. In the beginning of the series he was kind and helpful... hopeful even more. But as time progressed he lost his faith in the island for a while and every now and then the Island kinda kicks him in the ass and make things harder for him (not finding the cabin for instance). Locke's one of my favorite characters but I kinda liked him better before he went "lol, I'll put a grenade in your mouth, harrharr", but he has become far more interesting now.
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Post by: Mateui on February 23, 2008, 07:23:42 pm
Oh my god, what happened to poor , that's all I have to say!
I have a feeling that I hope that happens.  :fogetbackflip:
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Post by: Ryan on February 23, 2008, 07:27:30 pm
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Post by: Warped655 on February 23, 2008, 09:58:22 pm

you might be right. but then why wouldn't ? isn't one of the characters that does not have any family... ?
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Post by: Liman on February 23, 2008, 10:10:34 pm
you might be right. but then why wouldn't ? isn't one of the characters that does not have any family... ?

... nor does .
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Post by: missingno on February 23, 2008, 11:15:17 pm
Having watched all of the first three seasons online in about three weeks, watching like ten or so episodes a day on some weekends, the sudden transition to having to wait a week between episodes is HORRIBLE for me.

Favorite character is Sawyer, followed by Hurley, then Ben, and then Jin or Desmond. Mr. Eko was also my favorite for a while, but he's not around any more. Without the two of them (Sawyer and Hurley), the show really wouldn't be the same. I hate Jack and don't like Kate, although the both of them have become a lot more likable since the Hydra Station.

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Talk of money seems petty compared to what is probably actually going on here...

I think that's intentional, especially when you remember Kate's reaction to the conversation. Miles really doesn't know that he's getting into something serious.

As for the Claire/funeral thing, I really don't think that she's dead, at least not dead in that sense. She likely died on the island (or was left behind-- remember Jack and Hurley felt that they needed to go back, I think it's likely a that a large group of the survivors stayed/were left behind while the Oceanic Six returned to the "real world").

What do we think of the new characters? Miles is pretty cool, Charlotte annoys the hell out of me, and Dan Faraday is really fucking cool. I can't wait to find out more of his story.
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Post by: Liman on February 23, 2008, 11:53:36 pm
The new characters are growing on me. I kinda dig Dan Faraday's character (who's name escapes me at the moment). First I thought he was a terrible actor until I understood that that was the way his character was.

Miles really annoys me with his attitude and I'm happy he can't talk much for the moment ;) Charlotte is alright. I don't mind her really. Her accent is both annoying and sexy. Haven't really seen much of her yet so it's hard to say. Mr. Chopper appears to be the most trustful of the bunch. Kinda like him so far. It's gonna be interesting to see where he went with Desmond and Sayid.

So yeah, the new characters are a nice addition. I was a bit sceptical in the beginning but I'm starting to warm up to them.
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Post by: Shinan on February 25, 2008, 10:38:47 pm
you might be right. but then why wouldn't ? isn't one of the characters that does not have any family... ?


I'm so bad at knowing what's spoilers and what's not so I just spoiler it all.
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Post by: Lyndon on February 25, 2008, 10:49:28 pm
I wonder why Jack lied saying only 8 survived the crash......
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Post by: Liman on February 25, 2008, 11:02:57 pm
I wonder why Jack lied saying only 8 survived the crash......

Well obviously something happened that made them decide to go into hiding. I suppose the 4 rescuers either decides to join them or ends up dead. Season 5 will probably focus more on this matter while season 6 will wrap everything up.
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Post by: local_dunce on February 27, 2008, 06:12:41 pm
It's been really fresh having these transitions to the future instead of the past. Especially as the future affects every character whereas before we might get stuck watching an episode on a boring character (like kate.) But man what is going on. Sayid is working for Ben, Killing People, to protect everyone? It's all pretty mad.
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Post by: Randy Moist on February 28, 2008, 04:46:32 am
Wow I swear I made a reply to this thread that responded to a lot of people, weird. Maybe I posted during a crash or decided just not to post after all. One of the points though was that the 8 wouldn't include any of the 4 new people as they weren't on the original flight. As far as we know they can leave on their own accord and posed as part of the rescue operation.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on February 28, 2008, 08:58:58 am
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Post by: Mateui on February 29, 2008, 03:00:57 am
BEST. EPISODE. EVER.
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Post by: pburn on February 29, 2008, 03:03:32 am
JESUS CHRIST I CRIED
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Post by: Ryan on February 29, 2008, 03:03:46 am
BEST. EPISODE. EVER.

dude, yes. i fucking loved this episode. it is honestly the best episode of lost i have ever seen.

desmond has been one of my favorite characters :)
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Post by: Randy Moist on February 29, 2008, 03:05:02 am


Fantastic episode though, Sayid and Desmond are both such excellent characters.
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Post by: Ryan on February 29, 2008, 03:06:22 am


Fantastic episode though, Sayid and Desmond are both such excellent characters.



edit: also the ending reminded me of the intro movie for final fantasy viii
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on February 29, 2008, 03:58:22 am
ZOMG!!! SCIENCE!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Moses on February 29, 2008, 03:52:05 pm
BEST. EPISODE. EVER.
Definitely.  All the Desmond episodes have been great, but this one was the best out of all of them (and one of the best, if not the best, in the series).  It felt like an episode from season one, but I'm not sure why.  In more recent episodes, they've been half-answering all the questions posed in previous episodes without actually revealing anything about the universe in which they live (unlike this one).
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Post by: xanque on February 29, 2008, 06:35:23 pm
Desmond's episodes have always been the best.  The last episode of Season 2 was my favorite episode, but this one took everything up another level. 

But holy shit.  Fucking time travel!  Finally, Lost has officially become a Science Fiction show. 
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Post by: missingno on February 29, 2008, 09:54:09 pm
Lost has been about Time Travel for a while (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Orchid_orientation_film), it just hasn't been acknowledged yet in the main series. This episode was awesome, I agree, I loved the ending with Daniel's note to himself. His memory loss (which was hinted at in the previous episode, with the cards), is likely the result of the prolonged exposure to the radiation, if you remember he didn't really say anything when Desmond asked about protecting his head.
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Post by: Liman on February 29, 2008, 10:58:23 pm
I feel like an idiot. The other day my brother mentioned a theory about time travel and I was like "yeah right..." and the next episode just hit me in the face. I was pretty sceptical at first when I realized he was really going back and forth (although this has happened in an earlier episode) but as it progressed it became more and more interesting. I seriously love Daniel Faraday, he's a great addition to the series. Overall it was a very good episode, lots of things happened, things explained and the plot moving forward. The previous episode with Kate was really really boring compared to this.

By the way, the exact same thing with time between the island and the boat has been used in an episode of Stargate SG-1
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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 02, 2008, 02:53:23 pm
This was brilliant. I love this season. I've been waiting for this episode ever since they
introduced Desmond. It's good to know there are some light sides to this story.
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Post by: Grindie on March 04, 2008, 06:33:26 pm
It was a thorougly entertaining episode... for a filler.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 05, 2008, 01:53:20 pm

It wasn't a filler.
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Post by: Liman on March 05, 2008, 03:16:28 pm
It was a thorougly entertaining episode... for a filler.

A filler? This was more or less the first episode this season that moved the plot forward.

You're a filler...
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Post by: Mateui on March 07, 2008, 08:59:21 pm
Last night's episode seemed like a filler to me. Nothing seemed to move forward. The only plot point that progressed was Ben being let out by Locke, foreshadowing an uprising/revolution by the hands of Sawyer and co. Of course, we watched a short video about Charles Widmore, but we already knew that he is behind these people looking for Ben.

If all we find out next week is that Michael is the spy on the ship I'll be really disappointed. After last week's amazing episode this one was kind of a letdown. Oh well, maybe they'll strike gold again next ep.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 07, 2008, 09:40:38 pm
Last weeks episode was one of the best ones on the show. You can't expect that
pace to keep up.

I somewhat liked this episode (though this is my favorite show, so that's logical),
though I'm torn between who is the good and who is the bad guy. It's getting better,
and the coming two episodes are going to be a blast.
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Post by: Ryan on March 08, 2008, 04:36:57 am
Last night's episode seemed like a filler to me. Nothing seemed to move forward. The only plot point that progressed was Ben being let out by Locke, foreshadowing an uprising/revolution by the hands of Sawyer and co. Of course, we watched a short video about Charles Widmore, but we already knew that he is behind these people looking for Ben.

If all we find out next week is that Michael is the spy on the ship I'll be really disappointed. After last week's amazing episode this one was kind of a letdown. Oh well, maybe they'll strike gold again next ep.


yeah i bet it is Michael. i agree that the last episode was kind of lame compared to the previous one.
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Post by: Ryan on March 14, 2008, 01:48:20 am


oh shit this episode was really sad :(
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Post by: pburn on March 14, 2008, 02:10:13 am
Yeah, that plot twist was the most obvious thing in the world. I still like the idea though, and the execution of the reveal.

That episode wasn't the best in my opinion, but it was the most SAD THING IN THE WORLD. It confused the shit out of me, for a while I thought Hurley was the father. I really hate those writers for killing him off man. God.

Also Zoe Bell had the shorted cameo ever.

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Post by: Mateui on March 14, 2008, 02:30:59 am
I love that Grant Bowler is on the show now! It better not be short-lived. For those unaware of him - he was the host for the Australian Mole series. I found it extremely fitting that he has a SABOTEUR onboard his ship. It's nice seeing him again, and in more of an acting role.

Anyway, I loved the simultaneous FF/FB twist. Awesome execution. It totally redeemed what might have been a slow episode.
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Post by: Liman on March 14, 2008, 10:56:13 pm
Most boring episode yet. The whole spy thing turned out as expected. The "plot twist" was pretty weak however, mixing past with future to confuse us. It worked but it was really cheap. The Desmond episode came too early... feels like the following episodes are slow compared to that.

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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 15, 2008, 12:04:38 am
Most boring episode yet. The whole spy thing turned out as expected. The "plot twist" was pretty weak however, mixing past with future to confuse us. It worked but it was really cheap. The Desmond episode came too early... feels like the following episodes are slow compared to that.



Hmm. For a moment there, I thought both flashes were

Actually, if that'd be the case, I'd like this episode far more than I do now.

The plot twist was expected, of course, but not unwanted. I wanted it to happen,
so I'm not disappointed.
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Post by: DanialGlover on March 15, 2008, 01:42:27 am
Really boring episode

The whole thing confused me.

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Post by: Liman on March 15, 2008, 02:15:02 am
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Post by: Blitzen on March 15, 2008, 02:35:41 am
Most boring episode yet. The whole spy thing turned out as expected. The "plot twist" was pretty weak however, mixing past with future to confuse us. It worked but it was really cheap. The Desmond episode came too early... feels like the following episodes are slow compared to that.




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Post by: Randy Moist on March 15, 2008, 02:52:13 am


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Post by: Liman on March 15, 2008, 03:14:11 am



Damn, you're right. I was busy looking at the age of birth I missed that. Interesting. I thought the teaser said that the last 2 Oceanic 6 would be revealed. Guess it was just a hoax.

I just realized: Is the last Oceanic 6 the person in the casket seen in the Season 3 finale?
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Post by: Randy Moist on March 15, 2008, 06:51:40 am
Yea, I'm thinking that too, which is why I was initially more disappointed before, but now it seems there really is another one of the Oceanic 6. As for who is in the casket, my leading theories are still Ben or Locke.
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Post by: Liman on March 15, 2008, 01:19:36 pm
Yea, I'm thinking that too, which is why I was initially more disappointed before, but now it seems there really is another one of the Oceanic 6. As for who is in the casket, my leading theories are still Ben or Locke.

Well, the casket is rather small. If it's Locke I bet he got his legs cut off sometime during the final hours of the island. That would be interesting... and something the island couldn't fix.
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Post by: pburn on March 21, 2008, 02:03:15 am
JESUS CHRIST

That episode was FANTASTIC.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 21, 2008, 07:44:36 pm
Wait, just, what?!

I have no more comments on this. Maybe when the memory of this episode isn't freshly burned
into my brains.

What the flying fuck.
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Post by: Liman on March 21, 2008, 10:36:39 pm
Was a pretty good episode, better than I expected from anything related to Michael. A few surprises too.

... the biggest surprise however was: , lol
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Post by: Warped655 on March 22, 2008, 12:23:59 am
... the biggest surprise however was: , lol
Correction:

I have a question to anyone that thinks they have an answer... of course it would be just opinion I'm still curious:
Do you really think the Ben is a 'good' guy as he keeps stating? or do you think he's lying and has selfish intentions? or do you think he has delusions of being good and  THINKS that what he is doing is for the greater good? He always has this child-like look of faint awe on his face when he says that they are the "good guys" and its kind of creepy.

Also my comments on this episode:
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Post by: Mateui on March 22, 2008, 02:25:52 am
Also my comments on this episode:


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Post by: CorporateGreed on March 26, 2008, 08:14:22 am
Correction:

I have a question to anyone that thinks they have an answer... of course it would be just opinion I'm still curious:
Do you really think the Ben is a 'good' guy as he keeps stating? or do you think he's lying and has selfish intentions? or do you think he has delusions of being good and  THINKS that what he is doing is for the greater good? He always has this child-like look of faint awe on his face when he says that they are the "good guys" and its kind of creepy.


No. I don't really think so.

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Post by: Shadow Kirby on April 25, 2008, 02:17:58 am
15 minutes into the episode and my heart already exploded.
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Post by: Lyndon on April 25, 2008, 02:27:06 am
wait? The new episodes have started?
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Post by: Ryan on April 25, 2008, 02:39:34 am
i totally forgot to watch this :(
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on April 25, 2008, 03:02:17 am
Well, you missed the coolest ever!
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Post by: pburn on April 25, 2008, 03:29:46 am
Oh God this new episode was awesome. It didn't reveal a shitload of details or whatever, but it was just crazy intense. Ben Linus is one of the most entertaining characters in the series, and really seeing some more shit with his back story was great. The cinematography was amazing in that final conversation at the end.
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Post by: missingno on April 25, 2008, 07:22:35 pm
Awesome, I'm glad we had another episode revolving around Ben. He's been my favorite character for a long time and it's nice to see him doing more stuff than looking creepy and being vague.

Sawyer's growing, too. I mean I've always loved Sawyer, and he was my favorite character before Ben, but his relationships with the other characters (namely Hurley) are really evident now. Oh wow, character development. Unfortunately Jack's still a piece of crap who nobody cares about.

Theories and shit:

And a kickass . We haven't heard much about him in a while and I'm glad they haven't forgotten about for all the "oh man a boat" shit.
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Post by: Liman on April 25, 2008, 11:08:12 pm
Well, I can only agree with everyone else here. This episode was pretty darn good and I can almost guess that they decided to stop the show right before this one, only to open up with something cool again. The
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Post by: Lyndon on April 26, 2008, 10:17:06 am
This episode was awesome. Ben is really badass

Did anyone else laugh when he said "They changed the rules"? Its simular to his quote in Saw "Its the rules"
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on April 29, 2008, 02:04:19 am
lol yes, I did lol but not for that reason, it was just funny. It was like a kid going "hey, you can't do that, its againts the rules!"

No. I don't really think so.



naw, I think he expected them to make it to the temple.
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Post by: Ryan on April 29, 2008, 02:07:29 am
i can't believe . i really liked her :(
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Post by: missingno on May 02, 2008, 10:35:15 am
Yay, new episode. Unfortunately it was just a Jackforward, and Jack's episodes are always the most boring. Looking back, not much really happened in the episode.

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Post by: Liman on May 02, 2008, 10:00:34 pm
Yeah, this episode was a filler if anything else. We learned some minor stuff like but other than that, nothing really. The whole .

I was really hoping this episode would have been about Jacob... oh well, maybe next then.
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Post by: Lyndon on May 02, 2008, 11:37:03 pm
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I was pretty sure that happened before the trial and everything.
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Post by: CorporateGreed on May 04, 2008, 10:43:30 pm


I was thinking about this particular thing during the episode. I think you're right.
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Post by: missingno on May 05, 2008, 05:42:20 am


It makes sense, I was going by his reference to not wanting to go see Aaron and how it was the same as what he said in he parking garage after the trial. I'd probably have to watch it again but I thin that Jack is the worst and most boring character by far and don't think I could bring myself to it. I seriously struggle through his episodes.
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Post by: Randy Moist on May 05, 2008, 03:57:03 pm

Kate says at the end of the "we have to go back episode" that "he's waiting for me" or something to the effect of that. I take that to be Aaron at this point.

Also fuck the spoiler tags, it's been a page. Don't come in here if you haven't watched the latest episode.
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Post by: Lyndon on May 05, 2008, 04:23:47 pm
hmm maybe. I always thought that was Sawyer, but since he's on the island I dunno. You're probably right. So it has to be out of the Oceanic 6

Jack
Kate
Aaron
Hurley
Sayid
Sun (Jin must die on the island and be brough back otherwise that would make it 7 unless Aaron doesn't count)

So if its not Aaron, it's either Hurley, Sayid or Sun. Or it could possibly be someone who was not apart of the oceanic 6. What the hell happens to Desmond?
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Post by: Randy Moist on May 05, 2008, 04:38:36 pm
Desmond is kind of a question mark because he's already on the boat so he's gotta get back to the island.

Jin isn't dead, or as far we know, his tombstone read the date of the plane crash as his DOD so that really doesn't confirm anything other than he's likely still on the island and stayed behind to be sure his wife got on the helicopter.

It would be weird if it was Hurley, Sayid, or Sun (she said he so...) and from these, given what we know, Aaron is really the only viable option. it could be someone else we haven't met or someone from her past but until something crazy happens you can probably bank on Aaron.

The funeral is interesting since it could be an Oceanic 6 (Sayid is the only one who may no longer be Jack's friend, so far as we've seen) or it could be Ben, his death making Jack fully realize the need to go back to the island. Or Michael who is on the ship, providing him a means back. Another idea I've had is that they brought a body back (unlikely considering they've already mentioned the helicopter being able to only hold so many) and that it was Lockes. Also remember how they said there were initially 8 survivors in the court episode (2 died on the island according to Kate's story)? I think they included the other two for a reason, possibly because their bodies were brought back or something else required the 2 to be included in the story.
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Post by: missingno on May 06, 2008, 06:48:57 am


Yeah you're right. I was thrown off since I never pay much attention to Jackbacks.

As for the coffin, I don't get why everyone is so intent on it being someone from the Oceanic Six. The producers said that it was somebody that we already knew, but that doesn't mean that it's someone from the island. That said it's not one of the things that I think too much about. The best explanation is Hurley (because nobody else was present and the fact that Jack found out about it in an obituary), but I doubt that it will be him and it'll probably be someone that will throw everyone for a loop or something.
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Post by: Bisse on May 06, 2008, 11:28:26 am
Man.... not to shit on the topic but... so I don't watch the show? But I read spoilers in topics like these anyway and watch 5-minute parts sporadically when there's a TV on nearby and, well is it just me or has this show gone bat shit alzheimers nuts. The island is causing car crashes just.... what the fuck? I'd like a serious response: How can people watch this and take it seriously.
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Post by: Liman on May 06, 2008, 12:23:12 pm
I'd like a serious response: How can people watch this and take it seriously.

Because it's the fucking best tv show ever!  :woop:

You can't read about Lost. You have to see it, seriously.

Oh and yeah, when did the island cause a car crash? I'm not putting this under spoiler because I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post by: Bisse on May 06, 2008, 12:44:51 pm
Because it's the fucking best tv show ever!  :woop:

You can't read about Lost. You have to see it, seriously.
I did. I hated it. MYSTERY INTRODUCE hmmmm wonder what caused this? uuh what caused it? uh hey guys what cau OMG ANOTHER MYSTERY wonder what caused THIS
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Post by: missingno on May 06, 2008, 12:58:48 pm
I'd hate the show too if I didn't watch the first three seasons all in one sitting. This latest seasons I don't like as much, although I am really certain that it's only because I'm waiting between the episodes, and it really saps a lot of the enjoyment out of the show.

It's a lot less OH GOD MYSTERIES I CANT FOLLOW WHATS GOING ON than a lot of people make it out to be. If you just follow the show and watch all the episodes in sequence there's no reason to get "lost" (ohohoho).
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on May 09, 2008, 03:05:54 am
After seeing the scenes from next episode all I can say is "Shit! Ends are gonna meet"
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Post by: pburn on May 09, 2008, 03:22:04 am
This recent episode was AWESOME. This has to be the first John Locke flashback that wasn't related at all to con-men. Yeah, it wasn't the best but I really really liked it.

The whole was so random and unexpected.
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on May 09, 2008, 03:29:05 am
yeah, if I didn't watch all the seasons in one sitting on ABC HD online, I would not be intersted in this show, to many fucking "?" to be keep track of really.

btw John Locke annoys me,  Jin is the only cool character. and DEAR GOD DO I HATE THAT BLACK GUY.
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Post by: missingno on May 09, 2008, 11:44:43 am
The whole was so random and unexpected.

Except I said it a few posts ago on this very page.  :gwa:
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Post by: Shinan on May 09, 2008, 12:56:53 pm
Except I said it a few posts ago on this very page.  :gwa:
I wonder when we, the watchers, are going to get in on it too.
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Post by: Mateui on May 09, 2008, 09:07:27 pm
I wonder when we, the watchers, are going to get in on it too.
To me she looked like she was in on the fun in a drugged up way. :domo:
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Post by: dom on May 09, 2008, 10:10:16 pm
This recent episode was AWESOME. This has to be the first John Locke flashback that wasn't related at all to con-men. Yeah, it wasn't the best but I really really liked it.

The whole was so random and unexpected.
wasn't the best? this was the best episode of the season so far!
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Post by: Liman on May 09, 2008, 10:13:51 pm
A pretty good episode overall, definitely better than the previous one.

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Post by: Shadow Kirby on May 09, 2008, 11:41:16 pm
The thing is Liman, if he gets killed, I'm pretty sure the device that got attached to him on the boat is to make sure that if he dies, the whole ship blows up or something.

As for Richard, the scene where you see him looking at baby Locke....... he made me taught so much of the G-man from Half-Life that I was expecting him to say "Prepare for unforeseen consequences".
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Post by: pburn on May 10, 2008, 12:08:44 am
Ok, it's the best episode so far.

Again, John Locke's flashbacks were very good. I loved that part with the kid man, just sitting there picking up the items that belonged to him... Plus that part where he said "Don't tell me what I can't do" for the first time, simply epic.
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Post by: Randy Moist on May 10, 2008, 01:18:27 am
I think Locke intentionally picked up the knife to not be taken in by Richard. Just a far out there theory, though they made it look like he was just not the right ONE or something like that, I think that was them trying to be misleading.
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Post by: Liman on May 10, 2008, 10:09:48 am
I guess we don't care about spoilers anymore. Which is fine because if you check this thread despite the name of the topic, blame yourself.

I personally think that Richard somehow knew how special Locke would be eventually and wanted to recruit him early on. When Locke failed the test however he decided to wait. Later Richard stumbles upon Ben on the island and figures that he'll do a good leader or whatever while they wait for Locke to be ready.

And finally, when the plane crashes along with Locke, the island decides to get rid of Ben.

Did anyone else pick up on the fact that both Ben and Locke's mother is named Emily?
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Post by: Lyndon on May 10, 2008, 01:23:30 pm
Thats a cool theory, although it has some holes in it. Like Jack being a spinal surgeon and being able to save Ben was kind of like the Island helping Ben :/
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Post by: Shinan on May 10, 2008, 05:10:22 pm
Thats a cool theory, although it has some holes in it. Like Jack being a spinal surgeon and being able to save Ben was kind of like the Island helping Ben :/
Except of course that it has been explicitly stated that Jack was not on "Jacob's list" and wasn't supposed to do the surgery. So it was all Ben's own initiative.


About the knife I think it was something very Locke over him taking the knife, despite him probalby knowing it wasn't his. It's about what Locke wanted to be and what he was. The same with the scientist programme, Locke didn't want to become a scientist, he wanted to be the badass we all know and love him as.
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on May 13, 2008, 04:56:12 am
Was anyone else dispointed with the captiain? I mean after a couple of episodes of people saying "dont' trust the captian!"
then the letter "don't trust the captain" I wasn't expecting him to go out as the good-guy, I mean ...damn.
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Post by: Liman on May 13, 2008, 10:22:39 am
Yeah, the captain's death was a real waste. Like they came up with it in two seconds because the actor had to leave or something like that. They built up his character like this mysterious guy who you weren't sure about if he was being good or bad. Then they just killed him 'like that'...
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Post by: CorporateGreed on May 13, 2008, 12:45:18 pm
Thats a cool theory, although it has some holes in it. Like Jack being a spinal surgeon and being able to save Ben was kind of like the Island helping Ben :/

Actually, something struck me about this yesterday. You have a great point there.

What if the island didn't need Jack, but his father? What if jack was just a tool to
bring him here? That might explain why Linus had the chance to get better and
why Jack got ill.

What if some people, like Jack, were just a miscalculation?
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Post by: missingno on May 13, 2008, 04:54:28 pm
Christian definitely has a major role in whatever the big mystery is. He's Jack's dad, Claire's dad, and he spent time with Ana Lucia. He also met Sawyer in a bar.
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Post by: Mateui on May 16, 2008, 12:03:28 am
Tonight's episode (#12: There's No Place Like Home, Part 1) kinda sucked. I won't go into details here because the Americans still haven't seen it, but I wasn't impressed. This whole episode seemed to drag on and on and was so lacklustre. It basically set up a few scenarios to unfold for the next episode, but that's pretty much it. The next ep better be amazing.

On a random note, is anybody else a huge Richard Alpert fan? I love the mysteriousness of his character and how creepy he can be at times (ok, most of the time). I can't wait to see how his ability to not age will be explained by the writers in a scientific way.
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on May 16, 2008, 03:05:44 am
Tonight's episode (#12: There's No Place Like Home, Part 1) kinda sucked. I won't go into details here because the Americans still haven't seen it, but I wasn't impressed. This whole episode seemed to drag on and on and was so lacklustre. It basically set up a few scenarios to unfold for the next episode, but that's pretty much it. The next ep better be amazing.

With all the little scenarios they set up, the last episode of the season is going to be epic!

On a random note, is anybody else a huge Richard Alpert fan? I love the mysteriousness of his character and how creepy he can be at times (ok, most of the time). I can't wait to see how his ability to not age will be explained by the writers in a scientific way.

Probably time travel or something. But like I said, he makes me think of the G-Man in Half-Life.
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Post by: Shinan on May 16, 2008, 08:30:24 pm
Man, this episode didn't do a whole lot but what it set up felt just like a series finale to me. How are they going to keep this up for another two seasons?

But still. Damn. Lost is so bloody awesome.
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Post by: Liman on May 17, 2008, 09:05:15 am
I thought it was a pretty good episode. It was clear however that they simply used it to set up the events for the two upcoming episodes. I wouldn't be surprised if the next episode focus on Kate & Sayid with The Others while the last one focus on Locke in the Orchid.
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Post by: Lyndon on May 17, 2008, 01:03:03 pm
I thought there is only one episode after this one
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Post by: ATARI on May 17, 2008, 03:59:14 pm
I thought there is only one episode after this one

the next episode is supposed to be a two hour episode titled: parts 2 and 3, perhaps that is what he was referring to?
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Post by: pburn on May 17, 2008, 04:03:09 pm
The two episodes are combined into a two hour broadcast.
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Post by: Shadow Kirby on May 30, 2008, 02:59:57 am
The finale was............ hardcore. Ben Linus is officially one of my favorite character ever now.
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Post by: pburn on May 30, 2008, 03:00:35 am
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK


HOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW MANY MORE DAYS UNTIL NEXT SEASON
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on May 30, 2008, 03:26:01 am
I can't wait to watch this on abc online tonight/tomorrow.
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Post by: Randy Moist on May 30, 2008, 03:35:46 am
How was that a good finale at all? It was empty and pointless. A huge disappointment compared to last season's, which was such a shock for me. It ends exactly where we started.
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Post by: Liman on May 30, 2008, 12:31:54 pm
I thought it was a really good finale. They said from the beginning that this time it wouldn't be so much of a mystery but rather explaining a bunch of stuff. Now we know why these 6 were the ones who got off the island, what happened to the boat and when Ben left the island. It was nothing major in terms of revealing stuff but it was nice to have all that cleared.

The biggest revelation was obviously finding out that it was Locke in the casket (I was right, yay). There's one question though: All of them had heard of his death. Did Locke leave the island as well at a later time and why?

By the way, I loved that Sayid kicked Keamy's ass somewhat... that was something I had been waiting for.

Oh and finally, what a waste to bring Naomi's body back. Now she sunk with the rest of the ship :>
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Post by: Xeno|Soft on May 31, 2008, 12:31:39 am
I thought the biggest revelation was that they didn't betray everyone, they were protecting them.

dude, two of the coolest guys died though ;_;
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Post by: Liman on May 31, 2008, 08:43:39 am
I thought the biggest revelation was that they didn't betray everyone, they were protecting them.

dude, two of the coolest guys died though ;_;

I was surprised at Michael's death (which is pretty certain) but I doubt Jin died. Only the middle part of the ship exploded, he could easily have been thrown off by the blast, waking up in the water where Daniel finds him. Possibly he was close enough to the island to be taken with it when it disappeared, much like The Others second island was close enough to go too.
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Post by: Randy Moist on May 31, 2008, 03:10:10 pm
Yea I think they are trying to convince the viewer Jin is dead for a twist later.

The thing with this season and not just the finale is it felt motionless. we got to almost the exact same spot that we were at when the third season ended. Another thing was that the island's mystery is gone. They trot through the jungle at a whim now for anything. Ben goes to the green house. Leaves the green house. Comes back to the green house. Just seems like this kind of thing happened a lot. Oh yea and the amount of killing in this season was just absurd and got out of hand, killing numerous background characters and the least surprising main characters. Death has just kind of lost the impact it use to have.

So Yea they revealed a lot of shit and did a couple cool things but other than that the show was stale and suffered from maybe the worst writing I think of all the seasons. I have a feeling the main reason was the writers strike and that the season suffered out of a need to rush things. But the 'twists' (mostly the 6 not betraying everyone and having to go back meant reuniting all 6 and Locke's body) weren't all that great.

The first one was nice but not really exciting or interesting. It still leaves a number of questions I guess and will be fun rewatching the season but all it managed to do was kind of ruin the guilt that Jack seemed to have in the finale. They didn't really decide to leave in the same way Michael did. The other one was just flat out dumb. It is just really obvious. "you ALL have to go back together" D...uhhhh. I've seen enough Epics or whatever in my life to expect something so generic as we gotta reunite the team and ride in and save the day. Actually I saw Narnia 2 last weekend and I thought it was basically the same idea.

The one thing I'm kind of looking forward to is to find out who is the antagonist on the island. My brother pointed out his as a bit of a let down since normally at the end of a season you have some idea who they are going up against. However, all we know is some bad shit goes down on the island but we can't really say who's behind it since Widmore doesn't know where it is (Sun talking to him in the flashback kind of makes the point that he doesn't) and that black lawyer was bothering people throughout the the third season. So that is kind of exciting to see I guess.