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Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 02, 2008, 05:41:24 am
I'm quite surprised no one has made this topic yet (I think?).

So yeah. The Mars Volta released their new album "The Belam in Goliath" on Jan. 29th (well here in Canada, at least), so I bought it the first day and can't stop listening to it since. I think it's pretty fucking amazing.

Here's the cover art:

(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/50857/6388_image_1.jpg)

Tracklist:

"Aberinkula" – 5:45
"Metatron" – 8:12
"Ilyena" – 5:36
"Wax Simulacra" – 2:39
"Goliath" – 7:15
"Tourniquet Man" – 2:38
"Cavalettas" – 9:32
"Agadez" – 6:44
"Askepios" – 5:11
"Ouroboros" – 6:36
"Soothsayer" – 9:08
"Conjugal Burns" – 6:36


I think their sound has progressed a lot ever since De-Loused (even though so many people still claim everything they do is terrible/doesn't stand up to De-Loused), and this album is no exception. I think their tours with RHCP have definitely rubbed off on them, and there are some elements of funk throughout, which is pretty interesting. The album opens up with "Aberinkula" which really does smack you in the face becuase it has so much energy in it. I don't have a favorite song right now, but I've been playing this disc non-stop over the past couple of days; I'm at about 9 plays overall.
The new drummer, btw, is fucking amazing. Seriously, in some songs I couldn't even hear the other instruments at times becuase the drums were so dominant, it's DEFINITELY a big change from their old drummer...and you can hear the major difference in the very opening track. Also, if you look up their performance on David Letterman (I think it was?), you can see how well he plays there, too. Hell, here's a link:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uqVD7cxujb0

So, what do you guys think of the album? Is it better than De-Loused/Frances/Amputechture? Discuss.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Ryan on February 02, 2008, 06:11:45 am
imo it's their second best (after deloused.)

I saw them in concert a few weeks ago and they were amazing. the new songs translate well live. my favorite tracks are Aberinkula, Metatron, Ilyena, and Ouroboros.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: ATARI on February 02, 2008, 06:58:53 am
I'm not sure where it ranks against Deloused, but it sure marks itself at either my favorite or second favorite Mars Volta album.   From the moment I heard Goliath (when it first got leaked), I could already tell that this album would blow Amputechure out of the water (being my least favorite effort from the band).

What I really like about this album, is that is seems a lot more focused on the songwriting rather than the "jamming" feel that the two previous albums before it seemed to have (although there is still some on this album, albeit used more appropriately for the songwriting on the songs)

Regardless though, this album has quite impressed me, and has been the best thing that I have heard released so far this year (although it's only starting, so who knows what else can come out).

I was hoping to see them when they played in Philadelphia, but as per usual, I wasn't able to make the date (mostly because of very overbearing and protective parents)
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Bravo on February 02, 2008, 07:03:29 am
My favorite song is believe it or not: Tourniquet Man.


anyway, I don't like the way their sound has changed because a lot of it is now noise. and its not as good compared to their older cleaner sound
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: DS on February 02, 2008, 08:50:01 am
Yeah, it's a great album and I also think it's their second best album, Deloused being the best.

Although I think it's got the same problem as all Mars Volta albums do, it's too lengthy for its own good. They could had left some songs out (especially Askepios) and it would had been even better. But still, I like The Bedlam in Goliath a lot and my favorite songs are Ouroboros, Aberinkula, Metatron and Goliath. Ilyena, Tourniquet Man and Agadez are great too.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Char0n on February 02, 2008, 12:54:29 pm
Ah, what an impressive record. I've heard it for 3 or 4 times now (got it yesterday) and it's still growing for me. I think it's a lot better than Amputechture, which I didn't like as much as their other stuff (although it's still a great album) but I'm not sure if Bedlam will kick Frances from its throne, which is still my favorite one :O
Anyway, this record rocks!
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 02, 2008, 04:46:03 pm
I was so pissed off I missed the Toronto show >​. The tickets sold out in 32 seconds and they rose up from their original price ($35) to $100 to $150 on ebay.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: DS on February 02, 2008, 04:53:43 pm
32 seconds??? are you sure about that

if that's true, they should had changed a venue.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: the_bub_from_the_pit on February 02, 2008, 05:19:02 pm
I'm not sure about the 32 seconds, but I had tried to buy them the first day and they were already sold out, so I went on last.fm and that's what the people there said.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Wash Cycle on February 02, 2008, 05:37:55 pm
well hey, I had tickets to see them and then their lead singer fell ill so they postponed the rest of their North American tour (or at least the show that I was going to see them at)

they said they'll come back in may but if not I'll just get a refund for my ticket
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: cowardknower on February 02, 2008, 06:47:23 pm
i thought this album was mediocre.  just didnt grab me.  i tried to like it, listened to it twice, but it felt mundane.  felt more of the same.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Bravo on February 04, 2008, 03:59:23 am
just formed a new opinion: mars volta are becoming a noise rock band.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: tina.anderson on February 06, 2008, 06:20:02 pm
I am not a big fans of The Mars Volta, but they are ridiculously talented musicians.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Fatboys #4 on February 07, 2008, 05:51:38 pm
I don't know. I didn't like how he felt the need to start repeating the same line or 2 or chorus over and over again. Through out all of the albums I've listened to with him, I don't think I've ever heard him repeat as much as he did on this album.  It may have only happened in a couple songs, I'm not sure. I was listening to it while studying and this was one of the things I've noticed. I also didn't hear the Amputechture album so I can't really compare the two. But, yeah, that was kind of annoying.

Other than that, the music seemed to be interesting. Even more interesting was the pitch that he was singing at. What the hell. But eh, it's cool. The first track just really surprised me.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: church_gone_wild on February 07, 2008, 09:26:53 pm
the first time listening to this album, i could not pay attention to the whole thing; i just kind of lost interest. but after giving it a few more listens, it has really grown on me. overall it is a pretty solid (fuck that word) album. i don't really listen to de-loused much anymore cause i kind of GREW OUT of it or something, but it is up there in terms of quality. also the new drummer is pretty incredible.

favorite tracks: aberinkula, metatron, agadez, askepios, soothsayer

ps bravosector - what.... i hope you are joking, if not i'm just going to pretend you are anyway
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Evangel on February 08, 2008, 12:21:04 am
i've listened a few times, and this album, just like frances and amputechture, fails to impress me.  save for a few songs, everything i liked about deloused is gone from this band.  they've turned into a meandering stream of random sound.  i liked the structure they held in deloused, while all of these songs are more like "hey, if i play in a completely different rhythm and key, it'll sound MAD PROG".  really annoys me, actually.

deloused is a very unique and enjoyable experience, however.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: MagicBob on February 08, 2008, 01:18:24 am
I wish I would have seen these guys at Soma on the 29th. It was a Tuesday, and not the best day for a concert on account of school and whatnot.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: pig style on February 08, 2008, 01:51:13 pm
Ticketmaster says they have shows in Ohio and Florida in April. So I'm Probably going to hit up one of those shows despite some buddies of mine telling me they are like the worst live performance ever.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Shepperd on February 08, 2008, 06:28:07 pm
they were at their best during the de-loused tour
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Ryan on February 08, 2008, 06:43:09 pm
they were at their best during the de-loused tour

idk man, omar has improved loads as a guitarist. i prefer the songs from deloused but as far as general improv and showmanship goes they're loads better now
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Wash Cycle on February 09, 2008, 04:49:49 am
god I saw the video of them playing on letterman tonight

I did not realize how much of a gigantic faggot cedric looks like. I mean seriously what kind of statement is he trying to make by having that hair coupled with those clothes holy christ I could not get over that
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Ragnar on February 12, 2008, 11:42:25 pm
I just wanted to say Rolling Stone or some magazine said that the album art to this looks like Street Fighter along with one of the other albums
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Roberson on February 17, 2008, 04:49:06 pm
Man I heard uh Wax Simulacra earlier this year on the radio, and I really thought it was pretty average. But hey if most of you guys have been positive about the album then I'll check it out sometime.

Yeah, for some reason they had one of the most mediorce songs on the album be the 1st single. Check out Goliath, Agadez, or Ilyena instead, especially Goliath.
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: Farren on February 28, 2008, 09:39:17 am
What I've heard of it seemed pretty disorganized and erratic, but that might just be because I haven't let it sink in quite yet.

I LOVE the Mars Volta though and have been able to like a few songs on all of their albums. Though they seem to be getting progressively worse with each album...
Title: The Bedlam in Goliath
Post by: cowardknower on February 29, 2008, 12:04:52 am
El-P remixed "Goliath."

Its a lot better than the real song.

http://www.myspace.com/elproducto