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Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: goat on February 12, 2008, 11:10:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC0w3NqfwE0
Card Sagas Wars is a game under development for the PC platform. It features 100s of characters including Link, Chun Li, Master Chief, Bowser, Mega Man, Cloud, Ivy, DK, etc etc etc. Here (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/cards_blue.htm)'s the full sprite gallery.

When I first heard about this, I thought of it being awful like mugen, but it actually looks pretty well made. Your thoughts?



EDIT:So not all chars listed will be featured, although we can assume that the ones featured in the trailer are more than likely in.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sludgelord on February 12, 2008, 11:29:21 am
card, sagas, and wars are three words in particular i look for in games. i'm glad they've finally put all three together.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: SupremeWarrior on February 12, 2008, 02:21:01 pm
Whoa, looks pretty cool. Anyone know who drew the sprites?
 :shocking: Theres tons of characters all from anime, tv and other video games, wow tons of work has been put into this.
EDIT: Which character haven't they got?
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarhan on February 12, 2008, 02:23:19 pm
Seems cool, but isn't that the MUGEN engine? Looks almost identical to it.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 12, 2008, 02:39:57 pm
Quote from: Mario Do'Urden on February 12, 2008, 11:29:21 am
card, sagas, and wars are three words in particular i look for in games. i'm glad they've finally put all three together.

Fuck you. This is great. It's everything a fanmade game should have been.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sludgelord on February 12, 2008, 02:48:09 pm
Quote from: Chainer on February 12, 2008, 02:39:57 pm
Fuck you. This is great. It's everything a fanmade game should have been.
no doubt. well, gotta go. my cloud strife and donkey kong are just about to battle dark crash bandicoot ssj and guile.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Jayce on February 12, 2008, 03:02:58 pm
Bulbasaur
T: Add G to your mana pool.

                                 1/1
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 12, 2008, 03:12:58 pm
Maining as Toad. All the sprites look awesome.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 12, 2008, 04:01:31 pm
Quote from: Mario Do'Urden on February 12, 2008, 02:48:09 pm
no doubt. well, gotta go. my cloud strife and donkey kong are just about to battle dark crash bandicoot ssj and guile.

Hater.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sludgelord on February 12, 2008, 04:11:32 pm
Quote from: Chainer on February 12, 2008, 04:01:31 pm
Hater.
dude, i am being serious. i have been waiting for so long to be able to play as strago in a fighting game.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Doppleganger on February 12, 2008, 04:12:10 pm
Quote from: SupremeWarrior on February 12, 2008, 02:21:01 pm
Whoa, looks pretty cool. Anyone know who drew the sprites?

Ahruon and Orkimides are the ones who drew the sprites. I'm not sure if anybody else is helping them currently, but I'm pretty sure it's just them.

Ahruon (http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/1770.htm)

Orkimides (http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/6029.htm)

They're both top-notch artists, visit the above links to check out their pixeljoint galleries.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: maladroithim on February 12, 2008, 04:39:28 pm
I'm sure that this is a sweet game, but it *is* pretty hillarious that the title was obviously conceived to snag as many completely unreleated japfag Google searches as possible.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 12, 2008, 05:13:25 pm
Quote from: Doppleganger on February 12, 2008, 04:12:10 pm
Ahruon and Orkimides are the ones who drew the sprites. I'm not sure if anybody else is helping them currently, but I'm pretty sure it's just them.

Ahruon (http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/1770.htm)

Orkimides (http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/6029.htm)

They're both top-notch artists, visit the above links to check out their pixeljoint galleries.

OMGFossil, Turyx, JDaw, Happip, Kryon, and Chaindog (major contributor, more than 60 sets) too.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sludgelord on February 12, 2008, 06:57:37 pm
you chose to contribute to this over barkley chainer? jesus christ.

which characters did you do? did you do strago?
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Doppleganger on February 12, 2008, 07:46:07 pm
Thanks Chainer. All of those you listed are quality spriters and it doesn't suprise me that they're involved. Except I've never heard of Turyx before.

That makes more sense though, there's almost too much content for just two people.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarah on February 12, 2008, 08:43:15 pm
Those sprites are pretty incredible.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Supra Mairo on February 12, 2008, 09:01:24 pm
whers starg o i cant spot him also this is the worst title for a game ever. nice graphixx i gues
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 12, 2008, 09:48:15 pm
Quote from: Mario Do'Urden on February 12, 2008, 06:57:37 pm
you chose to contribute to this over barkley chainer? jesus christ.

I know you're joking (because pixeling is sin and I will cut myself long before I ever try it again) but.... about that. It's the same deal I have with my clannies (who are all gay and want pics of their characters done). You're too cool in my books for me to accept your money for drawins... but being the whore that I am I only stay motivated enough to finish anything if there is any money involved. I wish I was kidding. I am a very horrible person... I know. I can't even draw for myself any more.

Imagine how awkward it was explaining this in vent... multiple times.

I am up for riding Barkley's coat tails after it's success though! PM me with details!!!!


Also, Doppleganger, the artists where all on the site. You just have to sort the list to show them.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: goat on February 12, 2008, 10:14:14 pm
This is NOT the mugen engine, which is why I have hope for it. It isn't just make-a-char-with-no-respect-for-balance, they actually worked to make the chars fit to the engine. I think the similar art style for all the chars was well done, the sprites look very professional.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 12, 2008, 10:18:30 pm
Why does it say mugen in the search tags then?
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: HL on February 12, 2008, 10:25:27 pm
I am 99.9% sure that that IS the MUGEN engine.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Jester on February 12, 2008, 10:27:48 pm
Quote from: Chainer on February 12, 2008, 09:48:15 pm
I know you're joking (because pixeling is sin and I will cut myself long before I ever try it again) but.... about that. It's the same deal I have with my clannies (who are all gay and want pics of their characters done). You're too cool in my books for me to accept your money for drawins... but being the whore that I am I only stay motivated enough to finish anything if there is any money involved. I wish I was kidding. I am a very horrible person... I know. I can't even draw for myself any more.

Imagine how awkward it was explaining this in vent... multiple times.

I am up for riding Barkley's coat tails after it's success though! PM me with details!!!!


Also, Doppleganger, the artists where all on the site. You just have to sort the list to show them.
i think he thought you were chaindog

but yeah this looks interesting, although i will never play it. i hate fighters :(​.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: NightBlade on February 12, 2008, 11:11:33 pm
The sprites are amazing, but they the stages are horribly mis matched.

I assume that will be rectified by the final version, however.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarhan on February 12, 2008, 11:22:27 pm
Quote from: handsome lamb on February 12, 2008, 10:25:27 pm
I am 99.9% sure that that IS the MUGEN engine.

My thoughts exactly. The bars look almost identical as do most of the hit sparks. The only real difference is the location of the combo counter.

It's still cool I guess, but not as cool as an original engine. At least it'll be finished sooner.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: DanialGlover on February 12, 2008, 11:35:23 pm
Quote
preview with my project with Ahruon, a fighting game made with mugen with custom characters from various games made by us, right now it's in a very preliminary phase but this is somewhat what we have done so far
mhmmm.

I'm just waiting to see who and how the backgrounds will look, whenever they start em or show them of course.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Rone Rivendale on February 13, 2008, 12:05:15 am
Umm, isn't card #659 in that card list Alex from RPGMaker?? lmao
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 13, 2008, 12:10:42 am
While I was waiting for them to load to see for msyelf... I noticed these.

(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/33262/card482.gif)(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/33262/card732.gif)

Awesome.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarhan on February 13, 2008, 12:12:32 am
Quote from: Rone Rivendale on February 13, 2008, 12:05:15 am
Umm, isn't card #659 in that card list Alex from RPGMaker?? lmao

They have an assload of cards from almost everything. Not all of them will make it in. Probably only a handful of the most popular characters.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarah on February 13, 2008, 12:20:56 am
(http://www.gamingw.net/pubaccess/37867/card369.gif)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 13, 2008, 12:27:44 am
Quote from: Sarhan on February 13, 2008, 12:12:32 am
They have an assload of cards from almost everything. Not all of them will make it in. Probably only a handful of the most popular characters.

Idk man, I think the whole point of their game is to jam pack as many people in it as possible while keeping it balanced and nice to look at. They did take the time to sprite all those hundreds of characters.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Nessiah on February 13, 2008, 12:34:05 am
Ork said it himself, even Ahruon. They're making it at Mugen.
*points DA*

I think they even said it in the main page updates for card Saga Wars.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: goat on February 13, 2008, 12:58:17 am
Yea, its based off the MUGEN engine. I'd like to see what that engine is capable of with some balanced/regulated/normalized characters.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: jsnnoa on February 13, 2008, 02:06:11 am
From the site:



So it looks like not all of them will be in, and it is in the MUGEN.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarhan on February 13, 2008, 02:08:38 am
Sweet. I like how they're doing the moves like smash bros and street fighter. Simple to do basic moves but more difficult to perform good combos. Pretty smart on their part.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Mongoloid on February 13, 2008, 07:00:44 am
Ok i'm cancelling my brawl preorder.

i think we can can assume there will be no gay ass (ssb spoiler) in this game.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: bonzi_buddy on February 13, 2008, 08:41:51 am
Well, it looks good but uh, the combo/battle videos look really gay, like MUGEN gay at worst. I kind of hoped it would had included some decent system but i guess GLITTER BLAST BLOOM ssb is the trend of the day...

i mean, like i said it looks very good for a fangame but i'm just hella sceptic about how's the battlesystem going to work, especially with the base being MUGEN and as the character balance is non-existent with the inflation of characters!
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Grogrog on February 13, 2008, 01:32:34 pm
Quote from: bonzi_buddy on February 13, 2008, 08:41:51 am
Well, it looks good but uh, the combo/battle videos look really gay, like MUGEN gay at worst. I kind of hoped it would had included some decent system but i guess GLITTER BLAST BLOOM ssb is the trend of the day...

i mean, like i said it looks very good for a fangame but i'm just hella sceptic about how's the battlesystem going to work, especially with the base being MUGEN and as the character balance is non-existent with the inflation of characters!

In the beta there will be only 4 characters. I'm pretty sure these guys are going to work on balance. I mean, they're putting so much effort into it already, why would they not?
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Bill Murray on February 13, 2008, 02:40:35 pm
I was following this a while back when I was considering making a G&D Times article on it. It seems to be getting pretty big now (kotaku trailer). They deserve it, it looks bloody great.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Shadow Kirby on February 13, 2008, 05:48:50 pm
They have freaking Sion and Dune from Rudra. HOW AWESOME IS THAT!!
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Eltee on February 13, 2008, 05:58:47 pm
Well, this IS Mugen. But I agree there's quite some effort put into the sprites&characters so far. They'd need to do that to the stages&presentation too though to make it stand abnormally out. I believe it'll end up like every mugen game before though: insanely fast and hyperactive 700hit combo characters. Oh well.

Neat anyway.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: goat on February 14, 2008, 12:28:24 am
Quote from: bonzi_buddy on February 13, 2008, 08:41:51 am
Well, it looks good but uh, the combo/battle videos look really gay, like MUGEN gay at worst. I kind of hoped it would had included some decent system but i guess GLITTER BLAST BLOOM ssb is the trend of the day...

i mean, like i said it looks very good for a fangame but i'm just hella sceptic about how's the battlesystem going to work, especially with the base being MUGEN and as the character balance is non-existent with the inflation of characters!

Character balance, however, is completely dependant on the characters and not the engine itself. Even the most balanced fighter you can name could become unbalanced with characters like omega tom hanks thrown in.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: NightBlade on February 14, 2008, 12:49:48 am
Quote
omega tom hanks

...




What?
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Paranoia Dude on February 14, 2008, 12:53:04 am
Quote from: NightBlade on February 14, 2008, 12:49:48 am
...




What?
This:
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pz_QqhlmSnA&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pz_QqhlmSnA&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Sarhan on February 14, 2008, 12:57:01 am
Man...I've seen some ridiculous characters for MUGEN, but he tops the list.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: NightBlade on February 14, 2008, 01:16:48 am
Quote from: Raziel on February 14, 2008, 12:53:04 am
This:
<object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pz_QqhlmSnA&rel=1"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pz_QqhlmSnA&rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>

In light of this development, someone needs to make a charles barkley mugen character.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: bonzi_buddy on February 14, 2008, 05:00:09 pm
Quote from: goat on February 14, 2008, 12:28:24 am
Character balance, however, is completely dependant on the characters and not the engine itself. Even the most balanced fighter you can name could become unbalanced with characters like omega tom hanks thrown in.
Sure thing buddy. I know that.
but.
Quote
insanely fast and hyperactive 700hit combo characters.
is something i diss... feh...feh...

Reference: See the third promo (especially from 0:20). The battles with more than 2 characters looks as chaotic as they do on Little Fighter 2.
It LOOKS like the combo system consist of either hitting buttons REALLY QUICK or learning long, tedious combos (Tekken-scrubs and MK). Who knows, call me oldschool or w/e but it looks more fit to the HEH FUN TO PLAY TOGETHER WITH MY ROSEBUDDS - action rather than on... eh, you know. Something less quick, chaotic, blasty. Something with shorter, timed combos.
Eh, maybe i am just too constrained.


EH.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: HL on February 14, 2008, 05:07:34 pm
Quote from: bonzi_buddy on February 14, 2008, 05:00:09 pm
Sure thing buddy. I know that.
but. is something i diss... feh...feh...

Reference: See the third promo (especially from 0:20). The battles with more than 2 characters looks as chaotic as they do on Little Fighter 2.
It LOOKS like the combo system consist of either hitting buttons REALLY QUICK or learning long, tedious combos (Tekken-scrubs and MK). Who knows, call me oldschool or w/e but it looks more fit to the HEH FUN TO PLAY TOGETHER WITH MY ROSEBUDDS - action rather than on... eh, you know. Something less quick, chaotic, blasty. Something with shorter, timed combos.
Eh, maybe i am just too constrained.


EH.

I completely disagree and think you're right on the oldschool deal. Fighters now and days are shifting towards higher combos, more intricate stuff. Guilty Gear and what not, all have huge combos, but to some extent they are really easy and are just a matter of timing + execution. (like, in Melty Blood a combo can be c.C AABBC grab, so its like buttons right after each other; or Marvel, with magic combos, etc.)

It's not really MY style of game either, I play them, but I'm more of an oldschool kind of guy myself...I'm sure 1 on 1 this game will be pretty okay. After alll those special moves are done like in smash so probably that Master Chief combo is probably just like A, A, A, f+B, j. A, j.A, u+B, f+B, d+B or SOMETHING really easy.
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: maladroithim on February 14, 2008, 05:58:17 pm
Quote from: handsome lamb on February 14, 2008, 05:07:34 pm
. . . that Master Chief combo is probably just like A, A, A, f+B, j. A, j.A, u+B, f+B, d+B or SOMETHING really easy.

Don't you realize that what you are typing is ridiculous :(
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: YoshiJRC on February 14, 2008, 07:58:40 pm
I looked through that WHOLE list of characters, the whole time thinking, "C'mon Ghaleon... where's Ghaleon... he MUST be in this, everyone else is."

...and then I reached the end of the list.

NO. FUCKING.  GHALEON!

 :sad:
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 14, 2008, 08:15:11 pm
They didn't put up all the characters, notice how the numbers jump every so often (sometimes significantly).
Title: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: HL on February 14, 2008, 08:58:15 pm
Quote from: maladroithim on February 14, 2008, 05:58:17 pm
Don't you realize that what you are typing is ridiculous :(

No it isn't, it is standard command notation.


If I wanted to type ridiculous I'd type in the Japanese format like here is a combo in Garou in japanese format:
214D, 89632147C, A+B, 214214C

thats ridiculous