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Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: gamesmasterjasper on February 26, 2008, 12:53:35 pm
Well met gamers, gamesmasterjasper here.

For those of you who don't know me, I am a somewhat well-known gamesmaster, connoisseur and critic around the web. Like you, I spend a lot of time in front of the console (s - in my case), but perhap a bit more so as I am always trying to educate myself on the subject of gaming. I constantly try to stay ahead of gaming trends, culture, and in some cases - unfortunately - lies and deceit.

This brings me to the subject of this topic, which I have created on numerous gaming forums in order to advertise the first episode of my new show, gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth. In it, I will unveil corporate gaming lies that will hopefully turn your world upside-down and open your eyes to the trickery that is being employed by certain people in order to taint the gaming experience of the every-day consumer.

So please, if you feel even remotely moved or affected by games or gaming in any way, I strongly urge you to watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAFdIr7KKIE

Thank you.

"Don't judge a game by its cover. Judge it by its creator."
 - gamesmasterjasper (me)

 - gamesmasterjasper
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: jamie on February 26, 2008, 12:57:55 pm
hey GMJ (can i call ya GMJ?)

been a fan for way back - loving the new vid. heh that DN:F jibe at the beginning was classic. where IS it? but off course, we cant always be warring with one another - we may have our different opinions but we are all gamers and you stand for that ideals. i'm happy you came upon this forum - everyone has something to learn from you

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Post by: Vellfire on February 26, 2008, 01:44:04 pm
Cool!  That's cool dude!  I have certainly heard of you!
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Mama Luigi on February 26, 2008, 01:55:25 pm
This is...

not the right forum for this.

Also photos from iStock are not the way to get your point across.
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Post by: Swordfish on February 26, 2008, 03:06:02 pm
*shrug* it was meh, not sure what else to say about it.
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Post by: jamie on February 26, 2008, 03:09:50 pm
honestly it kind of breaks my heart to see gamers react to a heartfelt message like this with such apathy
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: kentona on February 26, 2008, 03:18:32 pm
My...my gaming experience is... tainted?
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Kaworu on February 26, 2008, 03:51:38 pm
I totally agree with you gamesmasterjasper. Copyright infringement is like a cancer on our precious community, and because of it, I cannot tell what is official Ikkitousen and what is not. It is good to see people like you fighting the good fight ^_^
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Post by: Sludgelord on February 26, 2008, 03:59:58 pm
Jasper, you and I go way back and I'm proud to call you a friend of mine but I personally feel this was uncalled for. In fact, it's even a little hypocritical of you to call me out on copyright infringement when your avatar is a fan drawing. Where would we be today without doujinshis, GMJ? Where would we be without fan mangas? You yourself were talking positively about the doujinshi game Tohou the other day. What about that?

Still, I'm not taking it too personally, as I know it was not a personal attack on me, and I'm still glad to call you a friend and a colleague.
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Post by: Dale Gobbler on February 26, 2008, 04:13:52 pm
So the point of the video was to get people to watch anime?

I'm mean, you start off talking about how wrong parodies of copyright material is, and then near the end you say, "There's a lot of good anime out there".
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: ase on February 26, 2008, 04:29:55 pm
gamesmasterjasper when can we expect more videos from your bullshit series???? i feel that my gaming knowledge of the..... Truth.... is a little skewed and hopefully you can lead me in the right direction (East)
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Post by: local_dunce on February 26, 2008, 04:47:03 pm
you are an terrible human being, i for one wont be coerced by your propaganda "bullshit" trying to pawn yourself off as an edgy do-gooder trying to out the bad niches of the gamer market. YOU don't know what you're talking about and everyone here has already clocked it. look at these guys:

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So the point of the video was to get people to watch anime?

I'm mean, you start off talking about how wrong parodies of copyright material is, and then near the end you say, "There's a lot of good anime out there".

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*shrug* it was meh, not sure what else to say about it.

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This is...

not the right forum for this.

Also photos from iStock are not the way to get your point across.

do you not get it. they AREN'T fooled by you. I AREN'T fooled by you. As far as I'm concerned you aren't welcome here anymore in my books you have probably been hired by the anime companies to infiltrate our gaming community to pander your wares well you better LOOK elsewhere.
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Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on February 26, 2008, 04:51:33 pm
gamesmasterjasper is the master
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Post by: Sarah on February 26, 2008, 04:59:54 pm
I am inclined to agree with you, GMJ.

See, I've known user CBoyardee for about four or five years now. There was a time when he was cool... when he cared about the gaming scene. He and I would laugh together... we'd cry together... while playing the best of the best.

But he's changed... his recent Barkley antics are laughable and Black Hommer is just disgusting. User CBoyardee is a fraud and a disgrace not only to gaming but to the internet. I have requested he be demodded and BANNED on several occasions but the admins are too caught up with their Ganja and their soldat.

If you're ready to wage war and make gaming honourable again... I'm on your side... gamemasterjasper.
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Post by: Shepperd on February 26, 2008, 05:36:25 pm
"Don't judge a game by its cover. Judge it after playing it."
 - DJ Soup (me)
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Chubby Skelly on February 26, 2008, 05:37:25 pm
I dunno, I can see his point. Chef used to be pretty original but recently he's just taken other peoples' good ideas (Homer, Barkley) and run with them.
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Post by: bible_basher on February 26, 2008, 05:40:22 pm
anime != gaming

get your facts straight dude
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on February 26, 2008, 05:41:06 pm
games master jasper, is it okay if i mention you on the frontpage??????
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Strangeluv on February 26, 2008, 05:41:43 pm
"All people are gamers, they just may not have found the right game yet."
- gamesmasterjasper


Wise wordz.
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Paragon on February 26, 2008, 08:29:07 pm
i have never seen someone so conceitted................ sriously you should at least quote someone else once in a hwiel give them some cred!? like you cam up with copyrights or somethign!! maybe they should have acop yright on copyright!!!
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Post by: Cardinal Ximenez on February 26, 2008, 08:29:28 pm
EDITING POSTS IS GOOD CLEAN FUN.
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Post by: Taylor Kaz on February 26, 2008, 08:49:35 pm
tell me what bearing it has on you or me when someone comes up with a black homer simpson that only 700 people or less saw.  That's not copyright infringement, that's just a youtube grudge that you have for that guy who made it.  Inconvenient truth?  i'd say it's more like intolerable libel.
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Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on February 26, 2008, 09:05:40 pm
You talk of copyright infringement yet you stole an istock photo with the watermark still on it...
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Post by: Roman on February 26, 2008, 09:20:32 pm
"This gamer has also been making videos about former rapper Tupac.  Now, I'm a person who would rather enjoy the moving pieces of Koji Kondo..."

that's pretty pathetic man

edit: i feel like i've sold out or something
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Post by: Vellfire on February 26, 2008, 10:05:38 pm
You talk of copyright infringement yet you stole an istock photo with the watermark still on it...

and the bullshit theme song
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Post by: jamie on February 26, 2008, 10:07:12 pm
none ogf those things aree even galmes! you dolts
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Post by: Evangel on February 26, 2008, 11:51:01 pm
You talk of copyright infringement yet you stole an istock photo with the watermark still on it...

...and use chrono trigger music

anime/games are SERIOUS BUSINESS
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: gamesmasterjasper on February 27, 2008, 01:30:24 am
There have been a lot of opinions in this topic, and that is good. I hope this video has helped you become better gamers.

Farewell, and game well. 'Domo arigato'

 - gamesmasterjasper
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Cheesy Doritos on February 27, 2008, 01:55:43 am
I love how you have two quotes in your signature, and then another one as your title, and they're all from you.

And yeah, I obviously disagree with you about the copyright infringement.
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Post by: something bizarre and impractical on February 27, 2008, 02:47:24 am
Copyrights are dumb a lot of the time and outdated for even more of it.

So... yeah. Please say this is like a joke series or something.
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Post by: Mama Luigi on February 27, 2008, 02:49:52 am
Some of you guys are missing the funny (or at least the attempt at).

Actually what's more funny are people's reaction to gamesmasterjasper than he himself.
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: bible_basher on February 27, 2008, 05:07:22 pm
There have been a lot of opinions in this topic, and that is good. I hope this video has helped you become better gamers.

Farewell, and game well. 'Domo arigato'

 - gamesmasterjasper

By the way, a japfag != GAMESMASTER
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Post by: Marmot on February 27, 2008, 11:42:18 pm
the intenret is full of gems like this

thankyou internet
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Post by: Parker on February 28, 2008, 08:35:50 am
WHOA. You can drag the quick reply box to create a bigger box. That is tits.
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Post by: Mongoloid on February 29, 2008, 07:15:57 am
Wait so is this for serious or a joke.

is this the guy that got fired for giving kane and lynch a bad review.
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Post by: spacelion on February 29, 2008, 07:22:58 pm
Wait so is this for serious or a joke.

is this the guy that got fired for giving kane and lynch a bad review.

yeah it is
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Post by: RedScythes on March 02, 2008, 10:51:26 pm
Wait so is this for serious or a joke.

is this the guy that got fired for giving kane and lynch a bad review.

This is probably a joke account.

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Post by: Kaworu on March 02, 2008, 10:53:31 pm
Dude please don't disrepect GMJ's valid criticisms, ignoring his well thought out points and blowing it off as just a joke account.
Have you no passion for the art of japanese gaming?
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Carrion Crow on March 02, 2008, 11:04:48 pm
Ahhhh this is grade A comedy gold :)
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Post by: Clucky on March 03, 2008, 01:01:13 am
I can't get into this. It would be funny if there weren't a fucking awful buzz behind your voice.
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: gamesmasterjasper on March 03, 2008, 01:05:50 am
Dude please don't disrepect GMJ's valid criticisms, ignoring his well thought out points and blowing it off as just a joke account.
Have you no passion for the art of japanese gaming?
A correction if I may: all gaming.

 - gamesmasterjasper
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Evangel on March 03, 2008, 02:45:06 am
A correction if I may: all gaming.

 - gamesmasterjasper

awwwww
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-iceburn.gif)
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Post by: Pipcaptor Hatsuya on March 03, 2008, 07:26:15 am
Whoa there, another Japfag comrade :D​, but say, what's with copyright infringement and you inserted a "patronize anime/J-games" thing? This is a WTFH Non-sense (what the fucking hell) or maybe this is a "C'mon let's feed everyone with sushi(east) and leave the hamburgers(west) rot" propaganda project
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Post by: GameMX on March 03, 2008, 05:57:05 pm
...Brother?
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Post by: Finality on March 03, 2008, 07:48:17 pm
I like how you quote yourself. It's like announcing no one else in the history of mankind has ever said anything else worth quoting.
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Post by: gamesmasterjasper on March 11, 2008, 04:24:38 am
To whom it may concern:

I would just like to announce the release of the second part of my video series, gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth. This episode is called 'A Gaming Emergency' and you can watch it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCpPp_dyCXo).

Thank you.

 - gamesmasterjasper
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Post by: ThugTears666 on March 11, 2008, 04:48:53 am
Man just look at Cardcaptors sig and avatar, just look at them...
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Post by: jamie on March 11, 2008, 01:16:07 pm
...semper games.
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Post by: ase on March 11, 2008, 03:14:35 pm
. . . or should I say "mario coins" *laugh* sorry, a little gaming humor!
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Post by: Grin Tree on March 11, 2008, 03:27:44 pm
Thanks for tip in Sonic 3, I was wondering what that vine was for.

Semper Games, wa-wa-wee-wa!
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on March 11, 2008, 05:44:47 pm
This offends me. Not as a gamer, but as a person conciously aware of the declining quality of what constitutes as "entertainment" in this society.

This is worse than "Tim & Eric: Awesome Show - Great Job!".
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Post by: Doppleganger on March 11, 2008, 08:23:47 pm
I wholeheartedly agree. You're simply not cool enough to act like a pompous douchebag. You're not funny and you're incredibly boring to listen to. I believe that you're trying to ride on the coattails of people like the Angry Gamer, but you lack personality, and so...
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Post by: esiann on March 11, 2008, 08:36:51 pm
"Semper gaming"? That's not even Latin. :/ Maybe you should do a little more research before you make these videos.
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Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on March 11, 2008, 08:40:02 pm
i want to see a series of truckpump videos.
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Post by: Kaworu on March 11, 2008, 09:31:19 pm
"Semper gaming"? That's not even Latin. :/ Maybe you should do a little more research before you make these videos.
Maybe you just haven't done enough. :fogetbackflip:
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Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 11, 2008, 09:34:06 pm
forgot to mention: I interviewed the Master for the front page here: http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=69872.new#new
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Post by: Roman on March 11, 2008, 11:34:36 pm
This offends me. Not as a gamer, but as a person conciously aware of the declining quality of what constitutes as "entertainment" in this society.

This is worse than "Tim & Eric: Awesome Show - Great Job!".

ooh they went to my college
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Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 12, 2008, 12:58:11 am
This topic is pretty retarded. Seriously, this guy is like a living, breathing Truckpump.

Oh well; if nothing else, at least it's generating forum activity.
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Post by: ase on March 12, 2008, 05:08:43 am
This topic is pretty retarded. Seriously, this guy is like a living, breathing Truckpump.

Oh well; if nothing else, at least it's generating forum activity.
you are so dumb. i would call you meaner things but this is in the general forum so i'm supposed to lead by example but seriously if you think it's retarded then obviously you are not a true gamer

there are three sources of anti-gaming power: macintosh computers, the ESRB, and Feldschlacht IV

- gamesmasterjasper
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Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 12, 2008, 06:25:27 am
I guess...I guess I'm not a true gamer.
- Feldschlacht IV
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: gamesmasterjasper on March 12, 2008, 04:55:31 pm
i liked the gamer tips please post more gamer tips and tricks (and cheats)
A gamer NEVER cheats. I can give you all the tips and tricks you want, but never a cheat.

I'd rather play Daikatana than listen to Feldschlacht IV.
- gamesmasterjasper
there are three sources of anti-gaming power: macintosh computers, the ESRB, and Feldschlacht IV

- gamesmasterjasper
Please do not put my name at the end of these quotes because none of them were coined by me. Thanks for your consideration.

 - gamesmasterjasper.
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Post by: Evangel on March 12, 2008, 05:01:30 pm
You, sir, are a gentelman and a gamer.
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Post by: jamie on March 12, 2008, 05:19:59 pm
evangel gentleman was a redundancy in that instance
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Post by: Rye Bread on March 12, 2008, 05:59:44 pm
Please stop quoting things I didn't say.
- gamesmasterjasper
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 12, 2008, 06:03:43 pm
if you guys drive jasper off i swear to god.
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: gamesmasterjasper on March 12, 2008, 06:11:53 pm
Well, I wouldn't say never. I think proper gaming etiquette dictates that a gamer can cheat as long as he or she has completed the game at least once without cheating.
Ahh, I sense a gaming debate, though unfortunately I do not have time to participate (ironically due to gaming *chuckles*). I will leave you with a quote that I feel accurately represents my standpoint on this issue.

"To state that you have 'finished' or 'completed' a game is to declare that each gaming session is the same as the next. Do I need to say more?"
 - gamesmasterjasper

 - gamesmasterjasper
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: jamie on March 12, 2008, 06:35:30 pm
honestly, i'm a little tired of seeing this kind of debate pop up without considering the core issue, which is :-

not all gamers are capable of playing a game without the aid of cheats. and games must be played, yes? yes, i think we can all accept that as an axiom. so, this is the dillemma: what are those who are incapable of playing games to do without the help of "cheats", or as i like to call them, game assists. tips and tricks can assist some of the less severe case of gaming disability, but in reality tips do not address those who "stuck", and tricks are only appicable to specific disabilities.

i mean, in a perfect world there would be a tip or trick for every gamer, for ever gaming situation, but news flash - we are not living in a perfect world. some gamers need to employ the use of cheats in order to play the game with any degree of success. i know some gaming conservatives look upon cheats as immoral but frankly this mode of thinking is outdated and monumentally insensitive. now look i don't want to upset everyone, my gaming stances are not the issue here. the issue is cheats.

tidbit: did you know that many games these days are opting to not include cheats?

i also hear dismissive comments like "oh games are so easy nowadays anyway". oh really? well perhaps you ought to tell that to the young man i met who could not go on playing the latest nintendo wii game his grandmother bought him for his birthday because it was "too hard!!!!". perhaps you ought to tell that to those retro-gamers who like to game nostalgic, or god forbid, CANNOT afford to buy the latest games and must stick to old ones.

perhaps you ought to tell that to them - because me? i'm not listening.
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Post by: Keith Stones on March 17, 2008, 04:19:34 pm
This offends me. Not as a gamer, but as a person conciously aware of the declining quality of what constitutes as "entertainment" in this society.

This is worse than "Tim & Eric: Awesome Show - Great Job!".

You know, I can see why someone wouldn't like the show, but at least Tim and Eric are being ORIGINAL. Also, the show isn't really even that popular as far as I can tell.

I'm convinced that most people think videos of other people falling down and hurting themselves is the funniest thing in the goddamn universe. Surrealism and absurdity are a refreshing change of pace. Sites like Youtube are a kind of double-edged sword for entertainment: on the one hand you've got original (maybe not always funny, but original), creative videos and stuff you can't see anywhere else, and the site brings an audience to people that otherwise wouldn't have a chance of having one. On the other hand, you've got 1000+ videos of people lip syncing to music while they sit at their computer. Also:

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Art is not, and has never been, subjective.

"Art is subjective" is usually a term used to justify the insufficient pedagogical practices of self righteous dredges who believe themselves true artists despite their complete disregard for the principles of effective design...

Saying that art is in the eye of the viewer is nothing more than self-interested postmodernist bullshit requiring a concerted ignorance of the history and legacy of artistic achievement.

yeah...
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Post by: `~congresman Ron paul~~ on March 17, 2008, 07:35:55 pm
Jasper have you played The Punisher video game? What was your opinion on it?
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Post by: EvilDemonCreature on March 18, 2008, 08:14:33 pm
You know, I can see why someone wouldn't like the show, but at least Tim and Eric are being ORIGINAL. Also, the show isn't really even that popular as far as I can tell.
Also:

yeah...

I don't care about originality. Everybody looks for originality, and use it as their sole criteria for entertainment quality, and it causes any other aspect of the entertainment to suffer because quite frankly, it doesn't even matter anymore in this day and age. When I judge a show, I judge it by talent. If the show has no evidence of people with talent working on it, then the people working on it have no right to be producing entertainment (Tim and Eric think making a show with the intention of it being as ameatur as possible just to be ironic constitutes as entertainment. It doesn't. I can appreciate the message, especially since the more people watch the show, the more it proves my point). The only reason people watch this stuff is because they are complacent with the increasing number of talentless hacks permeating any industry that should require talent to get the job in the first place!

Frankly the show can be as derivative and unoriginal as hell, but I'll still appreciate it if it shows talent. Just because talent is much harder to find than "originality" in this day and age.

Also I didn't make that quote. I just saw it on IRC and it really spoke to me, so I made it a signature. It really helps when it comes to topics like this.
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Post by: jamie on March 18, 2008, 08:34:32 pm
evil demon creature quit being all stupid!

I don't care about originality. Everybody looks for originality, and use it as their sole criteria for entertainment quality, and it causes any other aspect of the entertainment to suffer because quite frankly, it doesn't even matter anymore in this day and age.

you haven't even made any kind of point here. originality is dead! move on ya losers!!!!

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When I judge a show, I judge it by talent. If the show has no evidence of people with talent working on it, then the people working on it have no right to be producing entertainment (Tim and Eric think making a show with the intention of it being as ameatur as possible just to be ironic constitutes as entertainment. It doesn't. I can appreciate the message, especially since the more people watch the show, the more it proves my point)

this isn't what i am posting to say, but tim and eric is not just trying to be as amatuer as possible, it's a mockery of some of the awful things we've all seen on television. infommercials, game shows, reality tv, very special programmes - etc. that isn't what this topic is about but it's telling because you don't get tim and eric, i'm not saying it is the best show i have ever seen, but you don't get it and it makes me think you are applying the same stupidity in your argument against this topic and generalising it to all satire, irony and parody because you just don't get it and it kind of pisses you off.

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. The only reason people watch this stuff is because they are complacent with the increasing number of talentless hacks permeating any industry that should require talent to get the job in the first place!

the reason people watch this stuff is because it's funny, and it's funny because it's making some kind of point about the bullshit that continues to succeed in entertainment and art while presenting it's argument in a funny way! i'm not going to get into how it's funny because okay that is up to taste. you don't think satire is funny, then fair enough. you don't need to think it's funny, but you should understand that it is not just OH MAN LET'S MAKE A SHITTY COMMERICAL IT'LL BE SOOOO FUNNY. they are making fun of something terrible, because laughing at something is a good way of moving on, and that is not complacency. you are the complacent one, the one who is okay with something being "derivative and unoriginal as hell", if it shows whatever your skewed perception of what talent is.

hold on...i....i feel....a bulge in my.....






*FAAAAAAAAAARTTTTTTT
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Sludgelord on March 18, 2008, 10:19:56 pm
I don't care about originality. Everybody looks for originality, and use it as their sole criteria for entertainment quality, and it causes any other aspect of the entertainment to suffer because quite frankly, it doesn't even matter anymore in this day and age. When I judge a show, I judge it by talent. If the show has no evidence of people with talent working on it, then the people working on it have no right to be producing entertainment (Tim and Eric think making a show with the intention of it being as ameatur as possible just to be ironic constitutes as entertainment. It doesn't. I can appreciate the message, especially since the more people watch the show, the more it proves my point). The only reason people watch this stuff is because they are complacent with the increasing number of talentless hacks permeating any industry that should require talent to get the job in the first place!

Frankly the show can be as derivative and unoriginal as hell, but I'll still appreciate it if it shows talent. Just because talent is much harder to find than "originality" in this day and age.

Also I didn't make that quote. I just saw it on IRC and it really spoke to me, so I made it a signature. It really helps when it comes to topics like this.
Semper games.
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 18, 2008, 10:28:24 pm
Title: gamesmasterjasper's Bullshit: An Inconvenient Gaming Truth
Post by: EvilDemonCreature on March 19, 2008, 05:58:56 pm
I don't like post 9/11 world. I never liked post 9/11 world, and I doubt there will ever be a point in my life where I "get" post 9/11 world (including what seperates a great topic from a shit topic in that god-forsaken place).

I figured I might as well admit that now. It'd be nice if there was someway I could learn why this is the case, but that kind of introspection seems counter-intuitive to the whole idea of post 9/11 world in the first place.