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Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: tacrae on March 03, 2008, 06:08:28 pm
So I was wondering to all the people who've played this game... what's it like?    I just saw an epic battle scene with Genesis and Sephiroth.
I was blown away...

I really want to play this game now simply because I love the style that they choose for the VII series.  It's futuristic with swords... that's just brutal.  Also, VII hasn't died yet, and I'd love to see a remake, but I am so very curious about Zack's story before the events of VII.  If anyone's played it, let me know and tell me what it's like and how awesome it is...cause I want a PSP..
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Neophyte on March 03, 2008, 07:14:40 pm
Uh, it isn't out here in English yet. We have no idea how the story is. It is the best Final Fantasy prequel/sequel game though. And based on what I've heard, the story is great.
The gameplay is more of a Kingdom Hearts style, with the same old Materia and Limit Breaks. You only control Zack throughout the whole game, but the gameplay is still pretty good. The best thing about the game is the soundtrack, which  sounds very well done IMO. The graphics looks insane, and the FMV's obviously look great. Good enough for you to buy a PSP? Sure.

I don't know what else to say. It's a Final Fantasy game?
By the way, put more effort into your post. Post some screenshots of the game or something. This looks like one of those gamefaqs topics right now.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: maladroithim on March 03, 2008, 07:40:16 pm
The gameplay is more of a Kingdom Hearts style, with the same old Materia and Limit Breaks.

I heard on a podcast that it actually plays a little like Parasite Eve or something because you have an interval in between each attack or something like that.  But yeah the previews generally report that it won't be the best PSP game ever but that it's a pretty good game.

I hate to backseat mod but yeah your post is pretty bad and will probably get locked if you don't make it a little better.

Also doesn't this game come out in a few weeks?
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on March 04, 2008, 05:30:56 am
It plays kind of like a solo Kingdom Hearts except there's no crappy platform segments and the camera isn't deadlier than the enemies are. The game's not particularly difficult but it does force you to use all your abilities and stuff and you never feel like you're too underpowered or overpowered at any point in the game since leveling up is so esoteric.

As far as the story goes, I can't read Japanese but it's basically Zack's story and it follows the decline of Sephiroth's sanity, how and why Shinra was battling Wutai, the origin of the buster sword, and it talks about Zack, Aeris, and Tseng's relationship with each other. Oh yeah, Yuffie is in it and she's like 10 but still wears short shorts and jumps around a lot.

I would say this game has the best graphics out of any handheld but I recently played Silent Hill Origins which has actual DYNAMIC LIGHTING (something I didn't even know was possible on the PSP) and pretty much blew me away. The graphics in Crisis Core are still top notch, though because, well, if you can count on Square doing anything right it's making purty polygons.

Uh... best FF spinoff yet. I know that's not saying much but it's something.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: maladroithim on March 04, 2008, 03:36:17 pm
the origin of the buster sword,

It's funny that Cloud's massive sword is this iconic image because in the game it was a really crappy piece of equipment that you were happy to replace as soon as possible.

I would say this game has the best graphics out of any handheld but I recently played Silent Hill Origins which has actual DYNAMIC LIGHTING (something I didn't even know was possible on the PSP) and pretty much blew me away.

The lighting was pretty cool but man it was really boring.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Tau on March 04, 2008, 03:45:38 pm
This will be the first PSP game Ive bought since Tales Of Eternia came out haha. And Malas right, the Buster sword was shit in VII, and yet look at it now haha, but every main rpg character has to have a trademark weapon.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Kaworu on March 04, 2008, 03:58:23 pm
Prequels are my favourite kind of gaem. I need to know vital information such as the backstory of completely vital items.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on March 04, 2008, 04:53:06 pm
It plays kind of like a solo Kingdom Hearts except there's no crappy platform segments and the camera isn't deadlier than the enemies are. The game's not particularly difficult but it does force you to use all your abilities and stuff and you never feel like you're too underpowered or overpowered at any point in the game since leveling up is so esoteric.
I was watching some videos on gamespot the other day and the battles seemed more reliant on the slot machine in the corner. What's the deal with that? And please tell me that it doesn't have as big a role as it appeared to. I don't want another Chain of Memories-esque battle system (with even less control than the cards)
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on March 05, 2008, 02:38:18 am
The slot machine is your limit break and the way you level up.  Basically, the game gauges how shitty/awesome you're performing and modifies the slots based on that.  Every once in a while, you'll level up based on your progression (this only modifies your stats, not your abilities).  I like the way it works because it keeps the game from getting too easy (no powerleveling) but if you start to suck it may give you a boost but you can never rely on the thing 100% of the time.  It's honestly not as important as it sounds and I beat the Japanese version without even knowing what the slots did.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 05, 2008, 03:56:00 am
This game looks really, really great, and after years of stomaching really bad/mediocre Square expansions of FFVII, this one seems it's worth holding out for. My only concern is the voice acting, so far I've heard the voices for Angeal, Zack, Lazard, and Sephiroth. So far it's alright, but I'm kinda concerned about Angeal, people have been saying he sounds stiff. But we'll see.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on March 06, 2008, 01:25:32 am
bakusan have you seriously been playing the japanese version?

also, i'm lightweight astounded at how good they made it look, given that it's on the psp.  it also sounds like it's easily the least hackneyed, transparent attempt at fanservice of all the ff7 spin-offs (although i don't know a whole lot about dirge of cerberus or whatever, so maybe it's not horrible either), but i'm still not especially hopeful; like marcus said, being on top of a giant pile of shit is nothing to brag about.

i'll GIVE IT A GO, but only because i can download it in like twenty minutes, because i would never pay just to satisfy the vague curiosity i have as to whether it'll be godawful or just mediocre.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: jamie on March 06, 2008, 01:32:19 am
i also will want to play this but i'm downloading it. i don't really know much about it other than that it is zack's backstory and there is a really slim chance that it could be a worthwhile story. plus the gameplay sounds smooth so it won't get in the way.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on March 06, 2008, 05:59:13 am
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it also sounds like it's easily the least hackneyed, transparent attempt at fanservice of all the ff7 spin-offs

Nah, it's got a huge amount of fanservice.  The game opens with a nod towards FF7's opening scene where Zack rides to Mako #8 or whatever on a speeding train.  He proceeds to cut a path through dozens of wu-tai soldiers and ends up battling a behemoth before he gets his ass kicked by Sephiroth.  Zack uses the same cell phone Cloud does in the movie, all the characters are super cool looking and make these ridiculous poses and faces in conversations, and Yuffie appears as a 13 year old lolikon in shorter shorts than she had before.

I had fun playing it and I can't really say shit about the story because I don't know moonspeak but like all the other FF7 spinoffs it's pretty glorious, fluffy fan material.  Like you said, this is just not as big of a piece of shit as Dirge and Advent were but that's not saying much.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on March 06, 2008, 07:44:41 am
jesus christ CELL PHONES.  i forgot about that shit.

i really, really hoped it would just be, "here's a little background on ff7," and nothing more, with no gay advent childrenesque bells and whistles.  i mean, it's been a while since i played it (a long while), but ff7 had a pretty heavy amount of backstory and significant events/characters that took place/existed before the game even began, so this is arguably the MOST justifiable spin-off yet.  you can always try to say, "hey, characters like vincent and reno needed flushing out," but that can be argued of a lot of supporting characters in most games, and advent children was just a wholly unnecessary and mostly incomprehensible excuse to have cloud and sephiroth fly around and backflip between motorcycles in amazing cg visuals, but i had hopes that this would at least just be them legitimately trying to set the tone for the original game, and not another attempt at making some money.

i didn't have anything resembling high hopes, but i really thought it might not be that rabidly gratuitous in its execution.  the premise, at least, seemed like it could be legit, so for a while i thought they maybe just wanted to make a decent prequel to a game that could actually have sort of used one.  guess i was wrong!
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on March 06, 2008, 08:29:14 am
I can't tell you if it does set the tone for the original, it just "answers all the questions" about Zack, Aeris, Sephiroth, Hojo, and Shinra vs. Wu-Tai.  If the translation does turn out well, then that's awesome, but you don't need to know a lick of Japanese to play through the game.  There's lots of explosions and backflips and sunglasses and big ass swords and 300 hour long summoning sequences and over the top square shit we've all come to expect from them.  The game itself is decent so if the plot actually turns out decent then I can overlook the handjob they're giving all FF7 dorks expecting to see Sephiroth rip his mom out a wall and then murder everyone in a small town while doing several cartwheels and summoning nights of the round or whatever.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Kizzycrew on March 06, 2008, 05:57:58 pm
Essentially, if you thought advent children was ok, but would like a little more storytelling, and some equally as cool cut-scenes, coupled with some fairly decent gameplay, I'd pick it up.

If you're expecting another FF7, you might be waiting a while.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: xcosmicsoulx on March 06, 2008, 06:39:22 pm
I'll give you a kitten if you send me your copy of FFVII or VIII.
Our copy of VII got stolen, and our copy of VIII is overplayed,
so it freezes at the Shumi Village entrance.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: PkUltimaga on March 06, 2008, 09:07:22 pm
You play as Zack right... in the end he dies (sob) :fogetcry:
but are there any new characters?
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Liman on March 06, 2008, 09:11:13 pm
You play as Zack right... in the end he dies (sob) :fogetcry:
but are there any new characters?

There are no other playable characters, neither old or new, but there are some new faces in the game. Zack's mentor, Angeal for instance. There's also the new baddie Genesis and Shin-Ra's mission dealer, Lazard.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on March 07, 2008, 12:50:14 am
Essentially, if you thought advent children was ok, but would like a little more storytelling, and some equally as cool cut-scenes, coupled with some fairly decent gameplay, I'd pick it up.

If you're expecting another FF7, you might be waiting a while.
hey darkjak, welcome back!
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on March 07, 2008, 02:06:45 am
You play as Zack right... in the end he dies (sob) :fogetcry:
but are there any new characters?
thanks for the spoilers............
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: tacrae on March 07, 2008, 12:26:18 pm
I wasn't planning on making the post anymore informative because my computer sucks really bad, and I don't want to spend an hour getting a screenshot, and then putting on a photo hosting site, cause what I saw was on youtube.  Now, unless you've got a brand new computer you're willing to give me, I'd be more than obliged to make it more informative, on THAT computer.  But right now, I've not the computer to really care about.  My computer sucks and barely runs a few programs... and it doesn't do well on the internet, that's why I didn't post screenshots...it was a risk I took, but well, a risk's a risk.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Amplexus on March 07, 2008, 04:25:01 pm
thanks for the spoilers............
People should know that prior to playing the game if they are a FF7 fan.

I'm very interested in this game. I was actually reading about it today and checking out screen shots. I would seriously get a PSP just to play this game, I'm a FF7 fan boy to the max.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on March 07, 2008, 04:55:53 pm
People should know that prior to playing the game if they are a FF7 fan.
Well, I was being sarcastic but protip: not everyone who is going to play this has played FF7.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Amplexus on March 07, 2008, 05:01:26 pm
Well, I was being sarcastic but protip: not everyone who is going to play this has played FF7.
Quote from: Amplexus
People should know that prior to playing the game if they are a FF7 fan.
I wasn't stating that everyone who is going to play this has played FF7. It just seemed that everyone that has posted in this topic is a fan of FF7 or knows a lot about it. I also didn't know that you were being sarcastic, I guess my text-to-sarcasm converter is broken.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on March 07, 2008, 10:56:45 pm
not everyone who is going to play this has played FF7.

_Everyone_ has played FF7
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on March 08, 2008, 07:21:00 am
_Everyone_ has played FF7
yeah uh

it's an eleven year old game and no they haven't.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Liman on March 08, 2008, 07:00:41 pm
yeah uh

it's an eleven year old game and no they haven't.
Yes they have... even an infant.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Cold Omen on March 10, 2008, 12:14:06 pm
So yeah, even though I hate FF7 with a passion, even if it WAS my first Playstation Game. I'll still play this, EVEN if its just Square sucking off some FF7 Dorks.

See, why can't Square spend more money remaking the games, with more information instead of adding 100 'Subplots' in their own games.

(Dirge of Cerberus should have been a book, 3 Hours, WTF was that!?)
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 10, 2008, 06:10:20 pm
I've recently done some homework on this game, to see if it's worth buying considering I just bought a PSP. I know everyone seems skeptical, but this actually looks like its going to be a good game. And not just a good game compared to the other fancruft that Square has been churning out for the past few years, but an actual good game in its own right.

It's really all hearsay for the most part, seeing as how few people have played it, but I really haven't heard a bad (exceedingly bad) thing about it, and extra bonus points towards people fluent in Japanese, because they say the story is good too. Obviously though, you need to have played and be familiar with the FF7 plot and universe to really get anything out of it, though. So, I'm seriously considering buying it when it's released.

And Marcus, it's Wutai, not Wu-Tai, hahah.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The Dude on March 11, 2008, 01:24:29 pm
It should be Wu-Tang. That's for sure.

Yeah though, this is one of the few top games to get on PSP. Alongside MGS:Portable Ops, Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories, and Metal Gear AC!D 2.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on April 03, 2008, 07:19:39 pm
gbump (i was gonna post in the psp emulation thread but i realised i'd be more likely to get a response in a thread dedicated solely to this)

does anyone know an easy way to get phoenix down? or a way AT ALL? I don't die all that often but god damn, I never seem to have any. I usually just see the girl in headquarters but she destroys my heavenly dmw and I hate that. Is there a store that sells them? If so, what is it/where do I get it?

I'm on chapter... 6? I think. I'm going to currently.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 03, 2008, 07:57:48 pm
Posting my thoughts again :D

Ok, so I finished Crisis Core, and I gotta say. MOST DEPRESSING ENDING EVER. I won't lie, I teared up.


Great job Square, excellent game, and definitely pushed GoW from my number 1 spot. (Something which I could never imagine happening)

and no thats not  spoiler, because everyone know what happens to Zack.

PS:

The game DOES HAVE AN EXP SYSTEM. It's invisible, but its there. I hit gamefaqs after I finished it, and I read all about it.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on April 03, 2008, 08:37:45 pm
Wow, as if you reposted the exact same post in another thread. You couldn't even be bothered to rewrite it and possibly add something?

The game isn't even all that great. WOO THANKS SQUARE, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A GAME WITH A BATTLE SYSTEM THAT I NEVER HAVE TO THINK TO USE. Next generation: unreliable leveling! Dodge attacks that only work sometimes (adds drama)! And most important... a bunch of numbers that constantly grow but have absolutely no relevance to anything. WATCH YOUR SP, WOULDN'T WANT IT TO FALL BELOW THE 20,000 MARK. HP? We got it. MP? You bet. AP? Completely useless but it's there; just for you, players! Did you miss Aeri(s)(th)?? How about Cloud? Play Crisis Core now and you'll get to experience what they were like...... five years prior to the events of the end of the world.

Buy now and get an extra bonus: A million side quests! Yeah! More side quests than you would believe! 32 hours worth! If your thumb falls off from mashing x... we may even send you a new (mako infused) one! You can be a member of soldier too!


I think the only impressive thing about this game is the graphics.

edit: oh my bad aten, you added a reference to a faq which tells you something unimportant that really doesn't help anyone at all because the reels are still completely random, even if you've met the criteria for leveling.

edit edit: and yes, it is a spoiler. As was said earlier, not everyone knows what happens. Not everyone has played FF7.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: darkjak951 on April 03, 2008, 08:50:01 pm
thanks for the spoilers............

not really, if you played FFVII or watched FFVII:AC, chances are ANYONE would know zack dies :(
edit: *looks up* oh you were using sarcasm...my bad XD
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 03, 2008, 09:32:11 pm
bla bla bla

It doesn't matter what YOU say, I like it and it's engraved onto my soul lol and basically, with every review being a 9/10 or 9.5/10, I guess everyone else liked it too, so quit being a sourpuss.

Oh yeah, who actually DID all those missions? I did like, 20% of em, but I got some really really neat stuff. And the Ultimate Weapon, if you steal from/mug it, you can get 99 Phoenix Downs at once  :shocking:​  And then she slaughters you xD

PS:

Yes I DID paste that from the other thread, and I mentioned it on the first line. Geez.  :rolleyes:
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Neophyte on April 03, 2008, 09:43:49 pm
That's a spoiler regardless. Not everyone knows what happens to Zack. Just like how some people don't know all the secret characters in SSBB.
It's a spoiler. Btw I didn't know he had aerith on his mind. Thanks.

The game itself is alright. I would say this and Chains of Olympus are about equal. So far the story in this game is pretty shit though. I mean even though I kind of know what's going to happen, I feel like they could have done a better job. The voice acting is what really gets me. It's so...HORRIBLE. I'm thinking of getting the redub version so I can play this game later on hard mode and not get annoyed at how bad Zack's English voice actor is.
And there is some strategy involved in the battle system, but ONLY if you're playing on hard mode, or you want to do everything in the game like fight Minerva. You could easily breeze through this game just mashing X.

By the way Square is dumb for not having party members. WHY NO PARTY MEMBERS!?
God that pisses me off so much. No party members. It looks perfectly logical to have people assist you throughout the game. But no, this is Crystalis/Quest 64. Only one player SORRY.

I would say this game is no higher than an 8.0. It has too many flaws. Don't get my wrong, I really like it, but it could have been so much more.
Brave Story is still my favorite PSP RPG.

Edit: I do quests more than the actual missions. It's good because you get shit that raises your max HP to 99999 and max MP to 9999.
Not every review site gave this game a 9.0(G4 lol).
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on April 03, 2008, 11:27:58 pm
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It's so...HORRIBLE. I'm thinking of getting the redub version so I can play this game later on hard mode and not get annoyed at how bad Zack's English voice actor is.

What redub? 

And I must have superhuman tolerance because the voice acting is pretty solid.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Neophyte on April 04, 2008, 12:29:58 am
I mean undub, whoops.
I don't mind lots of the voice acting(Sephiroth, Tseng, Aerith), but I really can't stand Zack's. Especially when he is actually trying to be serious, it just sounds even worse. Maybe it's just me but they could have used somebody better for someone's voice you're going to hear throughout the game.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 04, 2008, 12:31:42 am
It's a spoiler. Btw I didn't know he had aerith on his mind. Thanks.

Yeah, the Digital Mind Wave.



that unfulfilled promise left me so sad :<
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on April 04, 2008, 02:31:24 am
is brave story really worth any time at all?  i played it for about five minutes before it got dumb and boring and EIGHT YEAR OLDS oh god, but my impression was that it wasn't especially good game.

also, aten are you dumb or just really naive, or what?  no one cites what reviewers think because a) ff7 is overrated and it was pretty obvious people were going to drool over this, regardless of its quality, purely on the basis of what it's a prequel to, and b) GUESS WHO PAYS THE BILLS?  very rarely do reviewers give such high-profile games poor reviews, because to do so would very quickly make their relationship with advertisers (i.e. the real source of revenue, not subscriptions/memberships) tenuous.  so saying "uymmmmm ign seems to think its great" isn't really saying anything at all!

but yeah i already made some gay post about what i think, so i will just say for a third or so time that it has a pretty dumb story, dumb characters, and shallow gameplay based around needlessly complex/random/difficult to understand mechanics considering none of the changes go beyond the level of superficiality.  the fact that you have to go to gamefaqs after you beat the game to even understand how combat worked says a lot.  i'd say i was disappointed, but i'm really not.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Marcus on April 04, 2008, 02:39:40 am
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a) ff7 is overrated and it was pretty obvious people were going to drool over this, regardless of its quality, purely on the basis of what it's a prequel to

I don't know, Dirge of Cerberus or whatever got universally poor reviews and pretty much every critic worth their salt blasted Advent Children for being DBZ with Final Fantasy characters.  I enjoy this game but I can chalk that up to not expecting it be something it's not specifically a replacement for FF7 or a console game in general.  I only play the game in short 30 minute bursts and for something that I bust out on trains and bus rides I don't find it boring or too contrived. 

I can understand this opinion changes radically if you actually sit down and play it like a normal console game but I play handheld games on the go so my opinion of them is usually based on how well they can be picked up and played.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on April 04, 2008, 02:47:45 am
I am going to ask again since aten gayed up the last page.

Anyone know where to get phoenix downs (NOT the 99 from the big boss)
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on April 04, 2008, 02:50:30 am
well your standards are kind of lowered at that point to something that replaces TETRIS, or some other cellphone game.  anyway, dirge of cerberus was NEVER well received, even when the initial announcement of it came out; people just dismissed it as being dumb and unnecessary,  so that it got bad reviews is to be expected.  but think about crisis core, and the type of press it's gotten.  it was sort of obvious from the start that it was going to fare much better.

also, advent children is sort of a weird comparison.  maybe MOVIE critics gave it appropriately bad reviews, but i saw a fair amount of HEH ENJOYABLE ones from gaming sites, and actual fans also seem to hold the same opinion.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 04, 2008, 02:57:44 am
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/

7.6 on Advent Children.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: maladroithim on April 04, 2008, 02:58:33 am
I only play the game in short 30 minute bursts and for something that I bust out on trains and bus rides I don't find it boring or too contrived. 

Man this is the second time tonight that I have to quote you instead of actually making my own reply :(

Anyway yeah I think this game is pretty decent and I think it's too bad that you feel so offended that it exists bazookatooth!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/

7.6 on Advent Children.

Man that was such a terrible movie by conventional standards but if you wanted to see swordfights and motorcycles it was pretty adequate.  It's sort of like XXX or Earth Defense Force or Styx.

EDIT: I mean XXX the movie and not XXX as in the porn industry.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: headphonics on April 04, 2008, 03:05:34 am
it doesn't OFFEND me okay.  i just think it is completely mediocre and at times subpar.  i think this about most games!
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 04, 2008, 03:16:34 am
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Man that was such a terrible movie by conventional standards but if you wanted to see swordfights and motorcycles it was pretty adequate.  It's sort of like XXX or Earth Defense Force or Styx.

none of those were tied to anything that had any amount of intellectual pride attached, as opposed to Advent Children, a sequel to the most beloved RPG of all time.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: maladroithim on April 04, 2008, 03:38:30 am
none of those were tied to anything that had any amount of intellectual pride attached, as opposed to Advent Children, a sequel to the most beloved RPG of all time.

I don't know man Dennis DeYoung is serious business.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 04, 2008, 07:11:33 am
bla bla bla

cant change my mind, I still like it, and apart from gw (and a few people whose opinions I have come to find out doesn't matter that much at all), everyone else loved it, so yeah  :fogetsmile:

I am going to ask again since aten gayed up the last page.

Anyone know where to get phoenix downs (NOT the 99 from the big boss)

I'm gonna gay up this one too  :gwa: and tell you that theres no other way to get em. But I only played 20% so....
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The Dude on April 04, 2008, 07:28:39 am
I'm not much of a FF7 fan, however, this game surprised me. I was expecting good graphics, and had already heard the excellent soundtrack. While the world and characters fit exceptionally well with FF7, the battlesystem feels like a Mana game almost. I knew it would be "Kingdom Hearts-ish" but it turned out completely different. It's as people say, jamming on the X button. Sure I used blizzard, cure and fire... but only because I wanted variety. Otherwise, I could have dodgerolled and attacked my way through. A RPG setting would have been very welcome, imo.
I say I was surprised by Crisis Core, this is mostly because of Dirge of Cerberus. After that putrid -thing- my hopes for CCFF7 were setting themselves up for let down. As I mentioned the setting and music and characters flowed exceptionally well with this crazy ol' FF7ology.

In the end... 'whatever'. I'd rather a typical Final Fantasy. Side-view same ol' battles. Sorry, but it was and still is highly appealing. Ah well. It passed the time. Crisis Core is alright in my books.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on April 04, 2008, 08:27:19 am
I just beat this. I am going to regret staying up to do so in about two hours when I get up for work buuuut I have a question. Aten don't respond to me.

Was Cissnei supposed to be ? Since she said , and I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.

Also, also, chapter 10 was pretty cool! The music really helped a lot when you finally get back to town and he was getting dragged away.


I think the best part about this is it shows how big a faggot Cloud really is. In Final Fantasy 7 he STEALS zacks identity basically, and pretty much completely forgets about him except in TWO SCENES. Zack was like the BEST BFF EVER and Cloud shits all over his memory AND steals his fucking girlfriend. What a douche.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 04, 2008, 08:56:36 am
I think the best part about this is it shows how big a faggot Cloud really is. In Final Fantasy 7 he STEALS zacks identity basically, and pretty much completely forgets about him except in TWO SCENES. Zack was like the BEST BFF EVER and Cloud shits all over his memory AND steals his fucking girlfriend. What a douche.

Totally agree, but I dare not let my sister know about it   :gwa:
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on April 04, 2008, 09:20:03 am
is chapter 10 the one with the hub dungeon and there are paths to a bunch of other dungeons? that was probably my favorite part.

I didn't really like the game too much. I guess it was okay though. fusing materia and doing missions was sort of fun I suppose, if only because I love getting super-powerful really early on (POWERGAMING HEH). the game was really easy even when I got too lazy to do that and my power starting averaging out. I don't think my hp ever went below max in the final battle because of that crazy shit where you break your hp/mp/ap limits. basically I wish the game would have just explained more of the mechanics, or better yet, not had so much complicated and arbitrary shit to explain. I don't really give a shit about that story because I don't remember anything beyond "sephiroth is evil" and "cloud thinks he's zack" from ff7.

it's definitely better than a lot of the games on PSP but it's really not that great.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The Dude on April 04, 2008, 09:24:20 am
Was Cissnei supposed to be ?

That all depends what happened in that Before Crisis cellphone game. A lot of backstory and sidestory stuff happened in that, and it took place between FF7 and Crisis Core. They should release FF7BC on... say, PSP, so those of us who don't own that certain japanese cellphone can finish the FF7 series.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Liman on April 04, 2008, 10:45:10 am

Was Cissnei supposed to be ? Since she said , and I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.


No, Cissnei is just Cissnei, a Turk from Before Crisis who previously didn't have a name.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on April 04, 2008, 04:54:01 pm
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Was Cissnei supposed to be Elena? Since she said that's not my name, and Elena was the only girl in the Turks I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.

Nah, she's not Elena, just another Turk. He 'real name' is just alluding to whatever you named her in Before Crisis. There's plenty of Turks (maybe around 10, at least?), but most of them are in hiding by the time Final Fantasy 7 (the main game) rolls around.

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I think the best part about this is it shows how big a faggot Cloud really is. In Final Fantasy 7 he STEALS zacks identity basically, and pretty much completely forgets about him except in TWO SCENES. Zack was like the BEST BFF EVER and Cloud shits all over his memory AND steals his fucking girlfriend. What a douche.

It wasn't intentional. Due to the Jenova Cells in Cloud's mind, he unintentionally replaces his own past with Zacks as a subconscious way to fill in the time gaps, so he could function. He didn't do it on purpose, it was Jenova's influence on Cloud's mind that made Cloud mix up his own past with Zack (and he really believed it himself)


As for my opinion of the game, it was pretty fun! I wasn't a fan of all of the story sequences (the game could have done without Genesis/Angeal and whatnot), but several clarifications of the story, the Wutai War, the Nibelhiem incident, Zack on the run with Cloud, how they met, and Zack/Aerith's relationship, were done really well, and I'm glad Square gave us a second look. I liked the voice acting, and except Angeal sounding a little stale at times, I think it's really solid. The gameplay is fun too. Normal IS very easy, but Hard Mode is another animal entirely. The game is really worth the game in Hard Mode, and that's what really drives me to play. Overall, I like the game, and it's very solid.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Sarah on April 04, 2008, 06:51:25 pm
is chapter 10 the one with the hub dungeon and there are paths to a bunch of other dungeons? that was probably my favorite part.
no it's the one where


What the hell is before crisis? Is that the game that was originally named Crisis Core for the cell phone that looked like balls? You play as cloud being a turk or something?
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on April 04, 2008, 06:55:51 pm
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What the hell is before crisis? Is that the game that was originally named Crisis Core for the cell phone that looked like balls? You play as cloud being a turk or something?

Before Crisis is a cell phone game that originally came out in Japan. It takes place a number of years before FF7, and you play as one of the Turks. The game introduces several other Turks besides the ones we know of in FF7, and the story mainly revolves around Shinra trying to stop AVALANCHE, a terrorist group, (while they have the same goals, its not the same AVALANCE that Barret's in, it's a larger, worldwide, more violent one)

Cloud isn't a Turk, but you do see him in his regular grunt status in a mission or two. I could go on, but it's easier to just wiki it. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Crisis:_Final_Fantasy_VII)
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Rowain on April 04, 2008, 11:18:05 pm
cant change my mind, I still like it, and apart from gw (and a few people whose opinions I have come to find out doesn't matter that much at all), everyone else loved it, so yeah  :fogetsmile:

*plugs ears* LALALALALALALLALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALA

Alternatively I was going to post something about FFX sucking and FFXII being really cool but I couldn't figure a way to phrase it.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Aten on April 05, 2008, 07:00:51 am
*plugs ears* LALALALALALALLALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALA

interestingly enough, thats what I typed, but then I didn't post it  :laugh:
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The Dude on April 17, 2008, 08:54:59 am
I'm at the end boss. Went into this game full of hope and excitement, I'm coming out slightly less dirty than after Dirge of Cerberus. It got so much like Kingdom Hearts! I admitedly love the KH series, but that's not why I bought this UMD. What the hell is up with Square-Enix? Each game leaves me less and less satisfied. Starting to get annoying...
On the bright side this gives me copious parody material.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Mr. Actionist on April 18, 2008, 11:49:47 pm
I quite enjoyed this game...

I mean, yeah, the combat was boring, you didn't ever need to do anything but attack and dodge, but...

I really enjoyed the story, which was what I was playing it for, anyway. And then I watched Advent Children, and it made sense! The strange thing is, after finishing the game, I actually wanted to play it again, a few weeks later. That hasn't happened before for me, ever.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: The Dude on April 19, 2008, 07:53:07 am
Yeah, were those

After beating this game, I really had an urge to pull out FF7 and continue onward. Then I remembered that FF7 was terribly translated, and devoid of gay Kingdom Hearts sayings like, "Follow your dreams if you want to be a hero" or whatever. The story sequences that had these idiotic banters, or annoyed the hell out of me. Worse, was that horrendous slotmachine battlesystem. UGH. I don't think I'll ever touch this UMD again.
Title: Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Post by: Liman on April 19, 2008, 02:12:02 pm
Yeah, were those

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