* Sam Houser - "Its Official, Im American now...I can now vote but for anyone but Hillary Clinton. I love America." (Note: Sam Houser is the founder and executive producer of Rockstar Games)Where are all the interesting/cool new features or is this it?
* The Sixaxis will be used in GTA4 but in a way thats done Right.
* A possible MMPOG GTA in the future. May be subscription based.
* Beat up cars will eventually stall, leaving you to flee on foot.
* Tired will shred apart when they are shot.
* Ps3 Version will have warmer colors while the 360 version will have more vibrant colors.
* Tap Up on the D-pad brings up the Cell phone. Up a second time brings up the key pad.
* There are several different cell phones you gain through out the game. the basic has contacts, organizer, camera, and multiplayer mode. The MP3 version is obtained later in the game.
* You can kill anyone and everyone, even your contacts.
* Theres a conservative talk station called WKTT (We Know the Truth). This is making fun of Rush limbaugh and will have those red stater rants that was recorded from real fans that called in doing that time period R* was taking calls from fans.
* DJ Lazlow Returns
* Bloggers play some form in the game.
* The old GTA cheat codes we come to love seem to have returned.
* You can drop grenades out of the vehicle while driving. you can also "cook" the grenades.
* R* is really getting into episodic downloads. may see some for the PS3 version.
Where are all the interesting/cool new features or is this it?
There are so many defining moments, but a recent one was during a police chase. A song I love came on one of the radio stations while I had two cop cars chasing me through chinatown. I was speeding along when another cop car I hadn't seen rammed me straight on, our cars crunched together, and I was sent flying through the windshield. I ducked into cover and could still hear the song playing from my smashed-up car. Then the cops opened fire, but one of them hit a pedestrian who pulled out his gun and started shooting. The next thing I know, there was a full-scale war going on between a random gang and the cops. Within a few seconds all the cops were dead and the gang members walked away. I got hold of another car and quietly drove out of the search area to lose my wanted level.
No planes. ;(Thank god. The plane missions were the worst in San Andreas. Definitely going to pick this up next month, I had no idea it was so close to being released.
I heard there's going to be helicopters, but not planes. That you can use your cellphone to call the police to a remote location so they're not around while you do a hit. That you can take a cab to any location in the city. That you can get a GPS for your car, input the exact location and it will direct you on the way. That you can't just hit Triangle to steal a car parked in the road; you have to break the window and hot wire the car. ....A whole bunch of crap.
INTRAN3TZ!!Holy fuck, I never knew they added the internet into this game, geez it's sounding more like a Sims game with a lot funner features and crime, I wonder if they'll have the whole bump into each other thing like in Assassins Creed.
The "internet" in the game is pretty intersting. There's like 100+ websites that you can go on in cyber cafes. You can check your emails, go on dating sites and shit. There is so much in this game that it seems like you can NOT BE BREAKIN' THE LAW and still hav tonnes of stuffs to do.
I read somewhere that Liberty City in-game is going to be about half as big as the entire landscape for GTA:SA, but that might be a misrepresentation (including whole bay area for example).
It'll certainly be far bigger than any one of the cities in SA alone.
if they announce a pc release i will upgrade my pc JUST FOR THIS (and god knows i'll need it just looking at the trailers)
i hope it has better controls, too. for an action-based game, the actual combat controls have always felt kind of half-assed. you'd think it was an afterthought, the way they throw shit like targeting in it.Nah yeah theirs cover and a new aiming system, plus the new physics used for the game, should be pretty interesting.
Nah yeah theirs cover and a new aiming system, plus the new physics used for the game, should be pretty interesting.
Holy fuck, I never knew they added the internet into this game, geez it's sounding more like a Sims game with a lot funner features and crime, I wonder if they'll have the whole bump into each other thing like in Assassins Creed.Dude if you're gunna quote me and include that kinda "INTRAN3TZ!!" shit, I will send people round your house to kick you in the knackers.
Dude if you're gunna quote me and include that kinda "INTRAN3TZ!!" shit, I will send people round your house to kick you in the knackers.the keyboard however is horrible for controlling the character and vehicle movement imo!
Also I doubt the PC version will be ultra taxing. This isn't exactly a huge jump from San Andreas' pc graphics. It's like BETTER SHADER and that's it. Essentially I find it near impossible that this game's requirements would be higher than Just Cause.
But yah controls... seriously how can people play GTA games on console? Like yeah the analogues make flying so much easier (as in... possible) but the aiming and shit was terrible and stiff. The game really needs the fluidity of a mouse imo.
http://www.thegamereviews.com/articlenav-434-page-1.html
some of the details that are known. In list format. :cool:
the keyboard however is horrible for controlling the character and vehicle movement imo!Meh I disagree.
Also I doubt the PC version will be ultra taxing. This isn't exactly a huge jump from San Andreas' pc graphics. It's like BETTER SHADER and that's it. Essentially I find it near impossible that this game's requirements would be higher than Just Cause.
I read an article about this game in Playstation The Official Magazine. Says the skeletal structure will have you stepping automatically up when walking up off the street to a sidewalk (or placing a foot atop your recently murdered victim for that matter).
I can imagine the graphic requirements being pretty high. Certainly not I NEED AN 8 SERIES NVIDIA CARD but definitely in the 1.5 gigs ram and decent video card range.
You know Lost Odyssey had this and I thought it was pretty ridiculous because otherwise the hero's animations on the map are canned and really terrible but they went the extra mile to make sure that he placed his feet correctly on uneven surfaces or rough terrain. It was especially awful whenever he would jump.
Thank god. The plane missions were the worst in San Andreas. Definitely going to pick this up next month, I had no idea it was so close to being released.
After playing through Saint's Row I expect GTA's gameplay to live up to it. SR itself wasn't a fantastic game, but it brought a lot of good ideas to the "open sandbox gangster" style videogames. For one, the map could be marked with way points which made driving around a lot easier than "PRESS SELECT CHECK MAP DRIVE A LITTLE BIT PRESS SELECT CHECK MAP" and the game's dual analog control set up actually made combat FUN.The map marker/GPS system has been confirmed and by description seems identical to the SR one. Also GTA4 has free aiming now (which isn't as broken as SA's), both in person and in car and I think I read that they've learned from SR as well that players should be able to use other weapons than just small automatic weapon for drive-by's (I think I read, again, somewhere that all weapons are available from the car but only the one-handed can be used while driving (does this mean increased AI driving? That you can GPS a location and you can get a gang member to drive you???))
That city map picture is damn impressive. Should be a blast to just go off and explore Liberty City.
Definitely looking forward to this! When is it out? The 28th or so?
yea i'm totally gonna buy this and then play it for five hours and then never againman I don't understand this
edit: PUUUUUUMPED
because the missions are generally pretty uninteresting and repetitive and i get tired of FINDING VINNY AND GETTING THE MONEY HE OWES and once you get past that it's really only fun to drive around and kill people for a few minutes before that, too, gets old.
with that said i get tired of half-life 2 because you shoot things with guns and sometime solve derivitive puzzles which revolve around picking up thing and placing it on thing.the difference is that while hl2 and most other games force you to do SOMETHING over and over, it doesn't really seem to get old. i don't think you can compare HAVING TO SHOOT THINGS in an fps with doing too-similar missions in a game like gta or uh... spider-man 2 when it came out which was the same 5 missions over and over. what's more, i never thought the plotlines were especially well done, and i thought the action was limited by the fact that the controls were poor and if you judged it AS AN ACTION GAME then it wouldn't be a very good one because there was a complete lack of things like combos or anything else of that nature that modern action games depend upon to be interesting.
The appeal of the GTA games doesn't boil around missions or killing shit (although that certainly appeals to some gamers) but the fact that they're actually designed well. It's not quite a racing game but there are racing missions and the engine is advanced enough to handle dozens of cars and make them feel different. It's not an action game but there's still plenty of action and shit to do. It's not a RPG or adventure game but the plot lines are generally more interesting and well written than 90% of everything else available.
GTA is basically a combination of several GOOD THINGS into one game. You can pick apart any product to its bare bones and say "this game sucks because i press "x" a dozen times a minute and kill monster A constantly" but what seperates the GOOD games from the BAD games is the effort the developers put in their products. When you play GTA you can tell that Rockstar put some thought into its design and that rubs off on the gameplay.
It's a shame you get bored giving vinny his money but I can't think of a single game on the market past or present that wasn't "ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL... A HUNDRED TIMES" until the very end. Maybe one day an avante garde developer will make a game about doing nothing in as long as time possible-- oh wait, they already have a game like that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Quest)
i don't think you can compare HAVING TO SHOOT THINGS in an fps with doing too-similar missions in a game like gta or uh...
i think you're severely underestimating his argument and ignoring just how much level design plays into shit. the event alteration is often dependent on just the player.
like if I choose to I can probably beat every mission in most GTA games by driving up, shooting the enemies, and driving away. this is not fun though so I smash into the building with a plane or something, but it's still all dependent on ME and that's the flaw of every sandbox game like this; if you get bored after exploring most of hte possibilities, its not a great game.
Yes I CAN compare it to having to shoot things because the entire basis of video games is doing the same repetitive tasks over and over again until completion. I'm not reaching for fuck shit here I am telling you exactly to the letter what a video game IS.ahaha it's funny because i actually said i think most games over 40 or 50 hours overstay their welcome, so it's not like i'm sitting here being like "this one's too short :(​(( (ten hours is nuts btw)" and then "this one's too long :(​((" but yeah you're really looking at things in a ridiculous way and i think this is obvious from the fact that if i used your logic, no game would ever be able to be criticized for being repetitive, ever.
You're the only one who's reaching here because every GTA mission isn't the same. They may be made up of the same basic goals such as escaping from an enemy, alluding the cops, or assassinating the targets (which boils down to RUN AWAY, DRIVE REALLY FAST, and SHOOTING STUFF in that order) but every video game in existence (notice the bold because that is important) is designed around a single basic idea that you do until completion.
Just reading your comments for the past 6 months already drills in my head that you hate video games which is fine. I don't care. I just find it stupidly hilarious that you complain about the lack of length in modern games but when a game comes out that is actually LONG (and the length isn't artificial by forcing you to sit through 20 hours of cutscenes) you instantly complain because it gets boring really really fast.
The problem isn't the games it's YOU. You don't know what you want as a gamer which is understandable because everyone sits down and questions what they're spending their money on but I'm not naive and nihilistic enough to claim that everything released is a waste of time and totally arbitrary because it doesn't specifically appeal to me (notice how I also put that bold).
fuck
I will openly admit that this was the flaw in GTA III but Vice City and San Andreas fixed that with a semi-rigid mission structure. You're still tasked with specific goals and objectives and you have to carry them out in the planned way. In San Andreas there's a mission where you drive up next to a speeding train and avoid incoming trains while your buddy shoots all the guys off. There's a mission where you infiltrate a building, shoot everyone, then proceed to an on rails shooter chase. In another mission you move through a burning building, kill everyone, go through a boss fight, run out of the building while it's on fire, then go through a big chase scene. In another mission you torch a house then have to run inside the burning building to save someone. Vice City had missions where you went from on rail shooting to action scenes to driving sequences--probably because since the game, as you pointed out, is so goddamn long, the minority of really cool missions doesn't make up for the majority of ones that still tended to have uninspired and repetitive structures. i actually FORCED MYSELF for the first time to play through san andreas because everyone loved it and i was sure it was a good game, and yeah, some missions deviated (more than a few, even), but most didn't.
I don't need to go on.
My point is that Panda's argument certainly passes with GTAIII which was essentially "perform the same tasks ad naseaum" but Vice City and San Andreas mixed it up by encorporating the various gameplay styles in the mission structure. In GTAIII you killed people then drove away. In VC/San Andreas you stealth killed people then hopped in a plane then did an aerial bombardment then drove away while the army was after you.
How this basic set up of "do the same stuff... then do the same stuff (but a little differently)" doesn't compare with games like Mario Galaxy and BioShock is beyond me and I will call anyone who thinks otherwise a liar.
this is forgivable and usually not looked upon as HIGHLY REPETITIVE in a bad way because the focus isn't on throwing your wrench to begin with. the focus is on level navigation, solving puzzles, countering/evading different enemies. there's repetition in all games, this is true, but most GOOD games temper it with a variation in the content. you get new weapons to use that there's actually a practical difference between, you encounter enemies that there are actually practical differences between, the locations are varied, and so are the puzzles (read: varied, not difficult. they actually require the use of different TOOLS IN YOUR ARSENAL or whatever).
because of the graphical limitations, most of the various locales in the city feel identical to one another,Seriously? (http://kungfurodeo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/grand_theft_auto_san_andreas_hr_1.jpg) I don't (http://www.rittau.org/blog/images/20050713-01-flying.jpg) see the similarities (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/60/205306197_c55d7987af.jpg).
the settings and environment don't really vary all that much compared to other good games.
i can forgive a platformer making me PRESS A TO JUMP over and over again (is this seriously your justification for all repetition in games marcus? jesus christ i can't even believe we're having this conversation) because that's just an action; it's what you have to do to get through the content, but it's much more difficult to forgive repetition content in gta because THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE THERE TO DO.
differentiate between the repetition inherent in firing a gun over and over while you go through content, and the repetition inherent in said content that's actually the reason you're playing a game
Then someone pm me when a video game comes out that let's us completely change the internal code. I will kill for a generic jRPG that let's me turn it into hack 'n slash.
Because in GTA the action in isnt inherent in the content. Using your own argument I could blaze through Ratchet and Clank using only the wrench and I will say the game is utter trash because this is how I play it.
GTA isn't level design, it's ENVIRONMENT design. this is why a lot of the missions feel exactly the fucking same unless it places an artificial constraint like "kill five in a driveby". I personally enjoy the environment design because I only play GTA games when I just want to drive around doing shit (coincidentally I prefer playing with full cheats) but it's not like there's this sudden incomprehensible idea that level design and content is important and some people would rather have levels than just a big open city that more or less looks the same.
How is shooting robots and dodging pitfalls in 12 different levels any different than dodging cops and shooting badguys for 12 different missions.
how is shooting robots and dodging pitfalls in 12 levels (each DESIGNED to be different) remotely similar to having a series of twelve missions, some only slightly different from others (and a few that are vastly different) interspersed with sometimes long sequences that use the same structure as these missions, only tiered down some?
did any of the levels really scream DESIGN to you, or did they say REALISM for the most part
You got me. Seriously, by rewording my argument you bring up a point I didn't think of.dude what the hell
Rockstar does a good job of interspersing their repetitive missions with something new. The length of the games themselves often hurts the rigid structure but they're smart enough to include stupid little things to do to break it up. I instantly get bored doing more than 3 or 4 missions in a row; that's why they have other things to do like chasing criminals and sky diving and shooting random pedestrians.
Like Steel said, this is pretty much the downfall of sandbox games in general but I enjoy playing through them little by little because by all means you can't just sit in one spot for 10 hours and enjoy it. Panda, I enjoy GTA because it's made up of so many smaller factors that it's the little things that add up to make it a good game. If you take any one part and hold it up to another game that does it better (like comparing the first person aspects of Oblivion to Doom 3) then yeah, it doesn't hold a candle.
God, I hope Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanomo Bay is funny or else I'm coming back and writing a mean spirited article on pretentious indie comic book artists.
There were areas that were specifically designed for doing crazy stunts like the big ass biking mountain and all the special stunts (or whatever they called them) like jumping a river in a 4x4 but I digress.
so who's gettin this for the 360?
me and bm are fiddling with the idea of fitting a gw crew in liberty city and duking it out (altho cross-atlantic might not work very well)
so any euros gettin this for the 360 (and also has live)?
no plans yet but if you do maybe we could get a game goin not too long after the release :)
REALLY ANGRY no panda it's your fault not the game's to completely agreeing with us? i do not get you, marcus.
DONT GO TO SEE HAROLD AND KUMAR
DONT GO TO SEE HAROLD AND KUMAR
ITS JUST AMERICAN PIE AGAIN
seriously i went to see it and was furious that i went to see it. like i always say HEH SHITTY MOVIE but i was so upset they shit on the most promising comedy series ever.
and the portable crew seems to give out a lot of tens :(
I hope they've evolved the formula rather than just refining it, and I hope the fighting has been improved.
Judging by the video they pretty much lifted the combat from Saint's Row which is fine by me. I never understood how anyone could manage to play GTA on the consoles (I've always played the pc versions) using the crappy auto-aim. Free aim and strafing is the only way to play the games.
Everyone who has Xbox live (playstation people, go away) should definitely leave their gamertag in this thread so we can hook up and kill each other on Tuesday.This is a pretty good idea. The only problem is I have so many friends that I have no idea who are so I might delete all my friends before doing this...
rofl, so many 100s. that's insane. it's ridiculous to say there is no room for improvement in ANY game.a perfect score doesn't mean its a perfect game or there is no room for improvement(at least not for all review sites/mags), if it did then no game would ever get a 10/100/A+/whatever.
a perfect score doesn't mean its a perfect game or there is no room for improvement(at least not for all review sites/mags), if it did then no game would ever get a 10/100/A+/whatever.
what magazine says PERFECT SCORE=PERFECT GAME? I know EGM, IGN, and Gamepro all don't!game informer says near perfect!
Yea but in all honesty, it seems more realistic to give it that than a 10.critisism is hard!!
Yea but in all honesty, it seems more realistic to give it that than a 10.jesus christ man it's just a symbolic number. giving it a ten does not mean THIS GAME IS FLAWLESS, it's representative of the fact that there's nothing in the game that really negatively impacts it. there's nothing in the grading scale that says "if the game has even a single error it cannot get a perfect score." we're not talking about some rigid grading scale where every minor thing means detracted points; this is just some guy assigning an arbitrary number based on his perception of the quality of the game.
I never said any of that, its just natural for anyone to think that a 10 is perfect out 1-10 scale (technically it is supposed to be).
So if you get an A on a paper that means it's perfect and there is no possible way you could improve it?
100 on a math test=perfect.
A 10/10 review means the game is basically flawless to the person writing it, and nothing more.so im confused, why does that mean we arent allowed to call it out and say it's a stupid rating to give any game?
so im confused, why does that mean we arent allowed to call it out and say it's a stupid rating to give any game?you can call out scores all you want, but bitching about a game(you have never played in this case!) not being perfect(duh! what game is?) but getting a 'perfect' score(which doesn't mean the reviewer thinks the game is actually 100% perfect) is stupid.
you can call out scores all you want, but bitching about a game(you have never played in this case!) not being perfect(duh! what game is?) but getting a 'perfect' score(which doesn't mean the reviewer thinks the game is actually 100% perfect) is stupid.ptizzle just said it means the reviewer thinks the game is flawless :(
ptizzle just said it means the reviewer thinks the game is flawless :(
i can still call the reviewers stupid, right? or is that stupid too?? there are too many rules involved here.
ptizzle just said it means the reviewer thinks the game is flawless :(i really doubt they believe the game is flawless, but probably believe the flaws that it has don't get in the way of it being a great game.. or maybe they do, but i highly doubt most do.
i can still call the reviewers stupid, right? or is that stupid too?? there are too many rules involved here.if you're calling them stupid because they gave a game a 10 that you don't think is perfect then yes, it is very, very stupid.
you can call out scores all you want, but bitching about a game(you have never played in this case!) not being perfect(duh! what game is?) but getting a 'perfect' score(which doesn't mean the reviewer thinks the game is actually 100% perfect) is stupid.
Its not a perfect score it the highest on the 1-10 scale. Hell IGN even went OVER the 10 Pt scale before.yeah thats what i was trying to suggest with the quotes i had around 'perfect'
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/037/037306p1.html
Overall Score 11/10.
It's like how a girl can be a 10 and not be the prettiest but her intellect makes up for it or something along those lines.
Thats putting words in the reviewers mouth. Seriously did you guys actually READ the review or did you go, "He gave it a 10 MUST FLAME!!"?
i really doubt they believe the game is flawless, but probably believe the flaws that it has don't get in the way of it being a great game.. or maybe they do, but i highly doubt most do.
How is that putting words in the reviewers mouth?
Do you forget that reviews are, after all, opinions?
Therefore I don't think it's too much of a leap of logic to say that a reviewer giving a flawless score to a review (as in, his opinion) would believe the game to be flawless.
I'm not trying to flame or anything, but you seem to have forgotten that no matter how big the site reviews by definition should be an opinion (of a professional in the case of places like IGN). Unless they're all getting paid off or something.
I was just expanding on what Steel said about a 10 never being able to be universal. I did word that a bit wrong. The IGN reviewer seemed to only have very small problems with the game, to the point where I don't think they'd really be considered flaws (of course they are literally, but they won't get in the way of your gameplay at all and the game can thusly be considered flawless to the person in question if it has nothing detrimental within it to them).
You just said, "a reviewer giving a flawless score to a review (as in, his opinion) would believe the game to be flawless.". Thats putting words in the reviews mouth because the reviewer blatantly pointed out some of the games flaws!
How can someone think a game is flawless and they point out the flaws? 10/10 =! Flawless.
I just edited my post because I didn't explain properly. A reviewer giving a 10 (or a 100 or whatev) would lead me to believe that the reviewer finds the game flawless, but it doesn't mean everyone will, thusly not making it 'perfect' as such.
I shouldn't argue the point though because you're right, I don't really know what the reviewer thinks. I just don't think it's a stretch to believe that a reviewer giving a game a symbolic 'perfect' score would find a game flawless in their opinion.
Haha check this shit out!
ptizzle just said it means the reviewer thinks the game is flawless :(
i can still call the reviewers stupid, right? or is that stupid too?? there are too many rules involved here.
oh for fuck's sake YOU CAN'T GRADE GAMES LIKE MATH what's wrong with you. there's no way you didn't see the intense flaw here.
hmmm well magical negro your paper was to include exactly seven unique five syllable words and you've only done six, gotta dock you two points for that, as well as not quite hitting the six page mark and going over, dock you another two.
when you grade a creative media you can never say it's perfect because (christ I can't believe I have to explain this) perfection cannot be created since people are imperfect and you can never satisfy everyone. GTA doing so well doesn't mean it's the BEST GAME EVER IT'S PERFECT or even that it's the best sandbox game ever but it means it's a damn fine specimen with few flaws that anyone with the slightest interest in the style of game can find.
a Christian reviewer would dock it for violence, panda probably will not play it much, and a blind man will hate it, but this doesn't mean you must suddenly give the game a 9.8 because it's not perfect across the board with every possible demographic.
Look man im not even trying to argue, i just stated my opinion and you get offended. Im just saying 10/10=perfect technically, yes technically, and its natural for someone to think that the game is flawless. Try it for yourself, go to 5 random people and ask them what is 10/10 and i'll bet all of them say perfect. Its not really that serious...But to other matters, anyone know if there are going to be seasons?
I can see why some people wouldnt want to read it though... it's fucking 7 pages (overkill much?).
review talk is better than OH MY GOSH SOON HERE because no one has the game.
also yeah I'd say a 10/10 doesn't mean FLAWLESS IN MY EYES but that the flaws are wholely negligible to the reviewer. no one is going to ever say perfect.
*pats his copy of gta4*I will add me to you PS3 friends DDay22 I believe
decided to buy it for ps3 so if anyone else is going to get the ps3 version, tell me so we can play online sometime.
I would gladly join in on the action if the wireless routers for the 360 didn't cost a fucking benjamin franklin.
Attention Xbox 360 owners!If you make a topic like this, add a list for both Xbox 360 and PS3 users so that we don't need two different topics for having list of names.
Buckle up boys, we're going in for a hard ride in Liberty City...
Maybe we should make another thread like the Smash Bros. peeps did, I dunno. However, since there is no such thread yet we might as well make a post with our gamertag in here. Basically, make a post and state your gamertag and simply add anyone you wanna shoot in GTA 4.
My gamertag is: nliman
I would gladly join in on the action if the wireless routers for the 360 didn't cost a fucking benjamin franklin.
Yeah man, you don't need a router or anything. Just hook it up with a normal cable via your modem. I guess you already thought about stuff like this but I felt I had to mention it anyway.
My 360 is three walls of away from my modem. Running a cord to it will look stupidly tacky and it would be a tripping hazard.its only 4(maybe 5) bucks a month
I also have to start subscribing to Xbox Live and aaaaaaaaaaargh i don't feel spending 10 bux a month or whatever.
Here we are standing next to people holding glocks in their pants and shit.... mingling with the beardfaces that where also in line. It was a pretty stange scene.ahahahaha this is what my dad said too (he went and waited for it for me because he is a bigger fan than I am and is really willing to wait in lines)
Man I just found out that because of Aussies stupid no R18 rating Take Two decided to stop people importing from New Zealand and give us the censored version to.. FUCK! damn Australian rating system!
I just got mine! installing now...INSTALLING
INSTALLING
did it come out for the pc, too?
it'd be neat if rockstar actually put effort into a game for a change and made an experience where it takes more than 20 minutes of dicking around to pretty much experience everything the game has to offer, sans that one rare ROCKET LAUNCHER or HELICOPTER or HOUSE that you play 50 hours to get. at this point i would be pleasantly surprised if they made a game where it takes 35 OR EVEN 40 MINUTES to fully experience their game
Man I just found out that because of Aussies stupid no R18 rating Take Two decided to stop people importing from New Zealand and give us the censored version to.. FUCK! damn Australian rating system!
Oh yeah you guys want me to put all your gamer tags in the first post or is their going to be a new topic?
So, which conosole did you get it for, Mala?
The more I read, the more I want an Xbox360 just for this game.
I lack the ability to think for myself so tell me: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Microsoft-Xbox-360-Arcade-Console-882224519588/sem/rpsm/oid/194701/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Why is this so cheap?
Oh yeah, getting drunk and driving is pretty hilarious.
The stunts are fun, but I still can't find any really high places. :(
It's also awesome to get some really fast car and then just drive through the city in full speed, the game looks really awesome and you can cause some nice damage when you collide with other cars.
I did have a link to an Empire State Building base jump on youtube but it was up for all of 60 minutes because Take 2 is doing some crazy fucking aggressive sweep of the game on youtube.Empire State Building is in the second part of the city and I don't think I can get there yet.
people talking to each other all the time, coming in and out of shops/restaraunts with bags and food and unique responses from people if you are acting strangely - maybe not unique, but varied.
I've seen pretty much all of these happen in this game so far.
Man I am kind of really disappointed. I've got like 3 hours into it and I'm at 11% already. Even the Stories games had more content.
Most of the percentage is in extra stuff like getting everyone's respect/like meter to 100% and doing all the side missions. If I remember correctly, doing all the story missions in San Andreas was only 40% of the total game. Rockstar said in an interview that they cut out a lot of crap that they felt was unnecessary (hidden packages and a bajillion collectibles) and I'm sure multiplayer will be a big time waster. I hate playing multiplayer on consoles but my friend let me play his game and I actually enjoy it.That's my problem though. I don't enjoy multiplayer, and I actually really liked all of that 'unnecessary crap'. It is actually kind of wrecking the experience for me because it's been nothing but mission after mission because I don't care to explore when I have no reason to, which is one of the reasons hidden packages were good. In all of the other games I've tried going for the 100%, but I doubt I will with this one because most of the extra shit in this is NOT FUN
Coolest thing to happen to me so far is jumping a bridge and landing ontop of an old guy. This woman standing next to me backs up, looks around, then claps her hands as she says "That was FUCKING SUH-WEET DUDE!"
That's my problem though. I don't enjoy multiplayer, and I actually really liked all of that 'unnecessary crap'. It is actually kind of wrecking the experience for me because it's been nothing but mission after mission because I don't care to explore when I have no reason to, which is one of the reasons hidden packages were good. In all of the other games I've tried going for the 100%, but I doubt I will with this one because most of the extra shit in this is NOT FUN
you're arguing FOR pointless pseudo-content?Absolutely.
if you really like exploring a big, full of life city, then you shouldn't really need rotating golden discs that collecting 50 of will get you some type of prize to do it. the joy of exploration isn't precluded by a lack of fluff content. you may have a point about HEY I GOT COOL REWARDS FOR IT, but i don't think it's that big a deal. i wandered around the areas in morrowind and oblivion even when i knew there probably were secret hordes of treasure waiting for me, because the locations genuinely had some interesting stuff to just SEE. if they did a good job designing the city, it should be the same in gta 4.Everything in the city is all crammed together though and it's actually kind of BLURRY or something. There's just too much.
also, idk, i'll buy this game in the next few days. i have a test tomorrow and a paper due the next day and blah blah blah, so i don't want to buy some really involving game, but i don't have much to do over the weekend, so i might pick it up then.
edit. did they really make the driving that bad? why in god's name would they want the driving in a gta game to be hyper-realistic?
Each moment that passes where I'm not playing this game is a moment of agony; however I cannot justify getting a 360 just for this ONE game.
Tell me there's a reason for getting a 360 other than GTA 4, please.
Please?
Ummmm
The problem is, most everything Im interested on Xbox360 is either out for the PC already, aside from this game. :cry:
MGS4 might be interesting and crackdown seemed fun... Thats pretty much it aside from GTA4.
Also :[ The radio stations really suck. Maybe I have bad taste in music, or maybe the music just isn't worth listening to. The radio stations are either rap, jazz or rock, or some strange combination of the 3.
And. Hahaha, can anyone understand what Little Jacob says? Even with subtitles on I have no fucking idea what he is saying most of the time.
spanish shit
Man... reggaeton is the worst fucking music. Be glad you don't understand it.
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooords
Them releasing this before exams is NOT COOL man. Also I am totally with #1 Dad on the city collectibles thing. I used to love the driving checkpoint challenges too they were ace.There are races, there are collectibles (the one #1 dad already mentioned in spoilers, which is pretty funny (I laughed first time I did one)) and there are Unique Jumps. I'm pretty sure there's more stuff left over but by the looks of it they're well concealed. I'm like 16 hours into the game and I've only found one 'hidden package' (tho I haven't looked) about 3 or 4 hours ago and three unique jumps (two are at the same spot).
Uh so is this a copy/paste from your blog or something?
EDIT: Man I don't know why I got the PS3 version this sucks. I am probably going to trade it in for the 360 version =\
Pigeon Locations - Current Pigeons found: 1 (Click to reveal)Faustins Cabaret Theatre - Go through the back door, up the stairs and onto the roof, then drop down the west side onto another roof and you should see it.
I found another one under the subway#3: at the south docks near CASTLE TUNNEL (southeast of the counstruction site). Its sitting at the wall of the edge somewhere along the pier
Speaking of collectibles, there's this random coke fiend that only appears as a small blue blip on your radar. He has 30 or so missions so I retract my "there are no pointless collectibles" remark.Brian!! He's awesome. I've found him like 3 times so far.
However, I too miss the hidden packages. That was part of the fun when you weren't busy with missions. Oh well.The new packages have been mentioned all over page 7 how did you miss it O_O
The new packages have been mentioned all over page 7 how did you miss it O_O
The new packages have been mentioned all over page 7 how did you miss it O_O
Also Brucie is the best character ever and my best friend.
i was browsing the internet and clicking all the links and one was a pedo site and i got 4 stars instantly :(
also for anyone who has played for a short time (5 hrs or less maybe?) and arent fans:jesus. didn't it just come out like yesterday?
this game grows a fuckload on you. i wasnt very impressed during the first part but once things pick up they dont let you down at all. im at about 22 hours rite now and it is really hard not to play. it is as addictive as gta3 was when it first came :D
so yeah, it becomes a lot better after a few hours. it takes getting used to the game before you appreciate all the amazing stuff rockstar has done.
sorry to hear that blargsnarf.wow i sure am the one that makes terrible posts
Is anyone else finding the cover system really, really dodgy? It seems loose as hell to me and never really works properly. I end up just running around so the bullets don't hit me and aiming and shooting whilst I do so.
hey ya jackass i posted mine. it's realjamicusI know I put it in when you posted it before haha :happy: Oh yeah in the censored version of GTAIV has the camera stuck in the back of the car with hookers and shit and some scenes and swearing cut or some shit, IGN posted something about it.
I don't know if the PS3 suffers from this problem, but I hate the sensitivity of the triggers. In order to go into free-aim you have lightly hold one of the triggers but I'm heavy handed so I often hold them down.ya this annoyed me as well but im pretty used to it now and its nice to able to change between them by just adjusting pressure to one button
3. The audio quality is horrible, its like they use 128 kbps mp3s! Dialogue is especially bad. I mean Wtf? Theyre enough space on the disc. Use it.
1. Why do I have to press X to walk? If I wanted to walk I could ever so slightly push on the analog stick, all the way to run.
Are you serious? $500 says that there is no way in hell that you were playing the game and suddenly realized gosh this audio is sampled at 128 WTF?!?!?! and that rather you read it on the internet. Also there is probably not enough space on a 360 disc for audio without lots of compression and probably not even on a Blu-Ray for uncompressed audio.
This is so true. It's actually a mildly serious design flaw, because if you are just wandering around on foot and tapping X to sprint, you can end up hanging up on phone calls and offending your friends. Holding X just to jog is a pain in the ass.
Ive added some peoples Gamertags and what not but so far no ones posting theirs here, I'm happy to put them in the first post like I have so far.I WANT to play online but I'm using a bootleg connection (I.E. DSL cable connected to a dial-up connection) so I'm not sure if it'll be fast enough to even play this (oddly enough Crackdown works with little or no lag at all). I also only have a silver account (because as you can guess I don't use Live enough to pay for it, heck at frist I only signed up to buy Castlevania:SoTN) and I'm wondering if you can actually play the game with only that. But I think a Gold trial came with the game so that's not a problem for now. Anyway if this works on my crappy set up I'll probably buy gold. My gamertag is Leric22 (because some asshole is already named Leric), I'll probably be on some time or another if it even works, which I doubt it will... I can't wait till I move to Orlando in a couple of months, I know you can get highspeed internet there.
1. Why do I have to press X to walk? If I wanted to walk I could ever so slightly push on the analog stick, all the way to run.Yeah Niko feels way slower than CJ was. In fact I think the hold A/X jog speed in this game is the same as CJ's simply push the analog all the way over jog speed in San Andreas.
4. Hand to hand combat sucks ass.I thought so too at first but I like it now that I can counter like a god. It feels more like you're a guy in the real world where there's a chance you're gonna get your ass kicked depending on how the fight goes instead of a uber badass videogame guy like CJ felt in San Andreas (this was an odd change though when you consider that Niko is S'POSE to be a uber badass trained Seribian soldier or something and CJ actually was just an ordinary guy with no previous martial training). I like to throw a brick or something at the guy I'm gonna fight's head or legs to knock him off balance before I actually approach him. Dirty I know but this is Liberty City, anything goes.
5. Driving controls aren't as bad as I originally thought but the camera while driving is HORRIBLE.I think it works better if you use the farest out camera. Still alittle weird though.
(Probably spending too much time chilling out playing the most unrealistic pool games ever with Little Jacob fuck knows what that guy is saying.)I'm half Jamaican and even I don't know what the heck he's saying most of the time. It helps (alittle) if you turn on subtitles, plus you get to actually know what Niko and Roman are saying when they speak their native language (Russian?) since it shows it in english.
when i was driving around i found badman sitting on a bench looking out of sorts so i investigates and get pulled into a mission to kill some russian drug dealers he doesn't like that was pretty cool. i hope there is a lot of that hidden away. i've seen the little blue man icons before but i dismissed them as body armour.
when i was driving around i found badman sitting on a bench looking out of sorts so i investigates and get pulled into a mission to kill some russian drug dealers he doesn't like that was pretty cool. i hope there is a lot of that hidden away. i've seen the little blue man icons before but i dismissed them as body armour.I also knew this and considered posting it but I am being really fucking careful about spoilers so I figured I shouldn't tell anyone but now the cat is out of the closet.
There are all sorts of spoilers dude. RIGHT IMPEAL!!!!!!!Really sorry, dude. :(
Really sorry, dude. :(It does.
If it makes you feel any better, I had a major plot point spoiled for me just a couple of hours ago, so I know how you feel.
edit: also yeah the driving is pretty poor. most cars handle really uh... haphazardly and you go flying like 900 feet away from the car on impact with the smallest thing.I don't understand how you manage to do this! I tend to drive really fast almost all of the time and I have flown through the windshield like 3 or 4 times.
panda when you are coming up to a turn just release the accelerator and use the L trigger reverse to slow you down so you don't go shooting past the turn, you can the just hit the accelerator again and take the turn at a little slower speed but it's quicker than slamming on the handbrake, flying past the turn crashing into a lamp post, reversing to turn round and doing the same thing trying to go back the other way.yeah i get that, it's just when there are turns so often, it's impossible to build up any decent amount of speed before having to slow down in anticipation for the next turn. realism wasn't something i was looking for in the city driving of a gta game! like you can clip a mailbox or something and go spiraling out of control at minimal speeds. it's nuts. i'm honestly sort of at a loss as to what they were going for with the controls here.
So use the L trigger to slow yourself down BEFORE you get to the turn, and then accelerate again to go round the turn. It's the quickest way I found. Also give me your gamertag so we can play online I think.
Drifting: The Mario Kart physics are gone. You cannot drift at stupidly high speeds without spinning out of control. To effectively drift, use the regular brake BEFORE you come to your turn. When you're near the turn, let go of the accelerator, turn in the direction your drifting, tap the handbrake for less than a second, and you should spin in that direction. Before you reach the 90 degree point, pull in the OPPOSITE direction of your drift to level yourself out.Yeah, this is what I do with drifting too. I have also noticed that with some (especially fast cars) it helps to use the regular brake right after using the handbrake and you can still drift in corners with somewhat high speeds, it makes the drift end sooner.
Fun Fact: In addition to the cool AI it also applies to drivers. If you shoot at a chasing vehicle (mainly cops), the driver will actually swerve around to avoid getting hit. Civilian drivers will instantly speed up and drive recklessly to get away from you or they'll abandon their vehicles. Use this to create barriers behind you.Yeah, I have also noticed that chases are so much better and more interesting in this game and there are cool tricks you can do.
panda when you are coming up to a turn just release the accelerator and use the L trigger reverse to slow you down so you don't go shooting past the turn, you can the just hit the accelerator again and take the turn at a little slower speed but it's quicker than slamming on the handbrake, flying past the turn crashing into a lamp post, reversing to turn round and doing the same thing trying to go back the other way.He's not playing the PS3 version so there are no triggers. Also you should set the control type to classic because that trigger stuff is bullshit.
So use the L trigger to slow yourself down BEFORE you get to the turn, and then accelerate again to go round the turn. It's the quickest way I found. Also give me your gamertag so we can play online I think.
Alright, about two hours ago I played some Free roam online and all of sudden this weird guy with a grey name parked right next to me. It turns out to be scubacoaster.
We happily drove around the city until some guy landed with a chopper next to us, basically telling us to join him. He then flew all the way to the airport and dropped us off next to the real badass choppers and we took one each. I dunno about scubacoaster but I waved him good bye and flew off.
But... something changed after that. The chopper seemed to have changed him. Whenever I parked next to him to say 'hello' with my horn he quickly pulled his UZI and killed me :( I decided something had to be done about it so I chased him around the city for a while but the bugger always managed to kill me.
Oh well, it was good fun seeing a familiar face in the game! :D
... next time, bunny, next time....
The guy with the purple name was grim and the guy with the orange name was Lars, also I had to keep killing you guy because you kept trying to shoot me and run me over!!! But yeah the cruising was pretty cool, if people weren't all trying to kill each other so much.
Haha, lars was the orange guy trying to get the achievement? Man, I tried to help him but he shot me as well.what achievement?
Jacob's the best.I'm assuming you haven't met Brucie yet? :D
Does anyone know if it's possible in multiplayer freemode to play some pool and bowling and stuff? I haven't managed to get anyone to stop shooting long enough to find out. Also I pulled a Lars, dragged Liman as high as I could up into the sky in a chopper and bailed on him. It was the funniest part of the game so far.
what achievement?
I'm assuming you haven't met Brucie yet? :D
Weren't you the guy who asked everyone to kill the police and their choppers so you could get the achievement? Or was that some other orange guy that joined later?Nah, I haven't found my headset yet so I didn't say anything at all. I already got the STAY ALIVE ACHIEVEMENT if that's the one you meant.
On the Brucie note I just did the mission where you get Steve's race car and it is really nice.
Is there a way to save cars, this early on? I am driving it everywhere, but I know eventually there will be a "get out of your car and onto a bike/run 40 miles on foot" mission and I will lose it :(​.
how do you escape from the cops once they get helicopters on you? two stars is easy for me, but 3-4 and i have absolutely no idea how to get away.Try leaving your car and finding some good spot where you can take cover and then find another vehichle. Narrow alleys, under bridges or somewhere in shadow. A really fast car can also do the trick, I believe.
how do you escape from the cops once they get helicopters on you? two stars is easy for me, but 3-4 and i have absolutely no idea how to get away.
how do you escape from the cops once they get helicopters on you? two stars is easy for me, but 3-4 and i have absolutely no idea how to get away.
Yeah we don't get problems like that on xbox, sorry mate.But we do get random disconnections when joining games. Its a game of luck when you try to join a friends game of freemode, 50% you will connect and 50% you wont.
suck on that DS and cliff....
Try leaving your car and finding some good spot where you can take cover and then find another vehichle. Narrow alleys, under bridges or somewhere in shadow. A really fast car can also do the trick, I believe.After I completed the mission a random pedestrian decided to play hero and starting shooting at me and in the process hit another guy. Next thing I knew about eight people were in a full on gun fight, with cops joining in a few seconds later. It was an awesome end to a funny mission.
Also, speaking of Brucie (he really is fucking awesome), the mission where Roman puts you on love.net as gay is hilarious.
Anyone want to explain why Brucie is so awesome? I don't have the game but that's what everyone's been raving about, so...Brucie has to be experienced. There's no way to explain his awesomeness without sounding lame. If you try to describe him it will come out cliche and boring but when actually experiencing him and realising how great they pulled him off you realise how great he is. So... I for one won't explain his awesomeness sorry!
Dude that's dope I wanna see/hear that.He's the DJ of one of the radio stations and it is pretty funny, but honestly there are so many radio stations it's kind of killied it for me. I don't even know the names of 3/4 of them.
I also heard that Lazlow is making an appearance too though (don't know if it's actually true). That'd be kinda cool.
But we do get random disconnections when joining games. Its a game of luck when you try to join a friends game of freemode, 50% you will connect and 50% you wont.
He's the DJ of one of the radio stations and it is pretty funny, but honestly there are so many radio stations it's kind of killied it for me. I don't even know the names of 3/4 of them.I've found myself listening to Liberty Rock and Vladivostok...that's about it. I never really checked out any others yet, haha.
THAT ONE WITH A SPIKY LOGO
Nope you are on your own with this one, I have not had this problem either.Ehh maybe its just my connection, but plenty of people had told me they had the exact same expiriences.
I've found myself listening to Liberty Rock and Vladivostok...that's about it. I never really checked out any others yet, haha.
I thought they were Scottish?
Vladivostok has a bunch of songs from Roslana, the winner of the Eurovision Song contest a few years back, including her winning song. I thought that was pretty funny... until I realized that Rockstar is Scottish and takes part of the contest themselves (except they suck and always come last).yeah that's why everything in her apartment is new...because it's not her apartment.
I find myself listening to Liberty Rock and Vladivostok as well plus The Journey which has some calm and nice songs.
By the way, do not read the following if you don't want parts of the plot ruined - I finally realized why Michelle kept yelling "tell me more" etc. while you sleep with her. I always found that weird, including Niko's "there's something strange about her". Now it all make sense when it was revealed that she's an undercover cop of some kind..
Does anyone have a 60gig PS3 because I heard Grand Theft Auto IV freezes a lot on it?
I do and have encountered no technical problems whatsoever.
My favorite moments when it comes to "It's your choice" is when you get to pick who to kill out of two guys like Dwayne & Playboy X or Francis and his brother Derrick. I always kill the guy I consider to be the most annoying and treat Niko like shit. Playboy X got sprayed with my AK in an alley and I sniped Francis in the head since his brother was simply trying to redeem himself... plus I was sure Francis would use all the info against Niko sometime later..there are several ways to kill playboy x?
there are several ways to kill playboy x?If you don't kill him quick enough, he makes a run for it.
there are several ways to kill playboy x?
Beat the game. I just wanted to see the rest of the story so badly that I played through the last third of the story all in one sitting. Finally tried the multiplayer. Its pretty goddamn awesome... but it doesn't hold a candle to the single player experience IMHO. Also after playing GTA4 so frigging much since it came out I'm a tad burnt out on it. Same thing happened with gears of war for me. I played it so much when I first got it that I got a little sick of the game after the first week or so. but I always return later. I'm going to take a break from GTA4 for a little while.
Man, what a blast. This is seriously one of the best games I have ever played. Both in excellent gameplay AND an overwhelming amount of content to play through.
but I haven't played Army of Two yet because I want to find a buddy to go through story mode with.ya otherwise it would be army of you ho ho ho
did anyone notice that Nikolai is a merchant seamen?
thats right, we're badass.
No, you can't even do that. All violence and weapons use has been removed from the game. It's basically just running around the city for a whole game (can't even steal vehicles)!
i heard that if you're actually able to commit a crime in the australian version
you must face the legal consequences as if you comitted that crime in the real world
i hear they renamed it "grand hugs auto" and instead of killing all the time like a chump niko hugs it out with all of his american friends
finished, both endings.Ending spoiler: heres the thing, I killed off Dimitri, (only ending I saw). but I realized something... isn't the guy that Niko owes money too still alive? (I forgot his name) or did I miss something here?
lame. hated them.
oh well.
What do I do for the Blood Brothers mission?Hidden content (Click to reveal)Can I screw up my game by killing Derrick or Francis? Which should I choose? I'm leaning at Francis cause he's one of the biggest pricks ever but...
My Francis missions say 66.67% and Derrick's are 100%. I want to get 100% overall, so does anyone know if I'm screwed if I kill Francis?
Ending spoiler: heres the thing, I killed off Dimitri, (only ending I saw). but I realized something... isn't the guy that Niko owes money too still alive? (I forgot his name) or did I miss something here?
haha, jesus, i forgot all about him. wow. plot oversight or what?
oh wait, shit, arent they releasing downloadable content? oh god, please let the story continue. i have 0 motivation to get 100% because of how bad the ending was.
I remember them saying that GTA4 will be episodic. So, don't get too depressed about the ending.
but not for the losers who only own the PS3 version!!
(also there are rumours that the episodic content will also include new areas)
Well, Microsoft did pay $50m for the two episodes.
Yep, Rockstar you sell-outs. Thanks for that kick in the balls to your fans. You're entire series rolls on Sony, and gets a port to Xshlocks, and yet you suddenly shift scenes. Fucking gay, man. Fucking gay.
Whatever. First Katamari, now Grand Theft. This gen is pissing me off, man.
oh god i want to trash new jersey so bad.
I don't know I don't really feel that strongly about it myself =\ I would bet hundreds of dollars tht PS3 gets the episodes after a few months or something.
It was deferred revenue which is basically a loan. MS expected to make at least $50 million dollars from this game (a safe bet) so they lent Rockstar a bunch of money to fund development. Jesus internet stop making things up this is the lamest rumor ever.
I am buying a next-gen console to play GTA4. I am buying a PS3 HOWEVER I would like to play the episodes that are 360 exclusive.
- I also have the sneaking suspicion that the episodes will be on PS3 eventually.
Man, I've just about GTAed myself out, seriously. I'm currently doing the Phil Bell missions again, after doing that Pegorino guy... Jimmy?'s missions, and it all just seems so... familiar, I dunno. NEED SOME VARIATION. Currently on the map are Derek (I've done Gerry), Bernie and Phil, and my game completion's something like 43%. How far am I from finishing it, for those that have done so?Beating the story missions gives you like 60% total or something, so you'll be around there (or higher if you've done a lot of side stuff).
Oh and yeah, that one guy Balgarin...who was hunting Niko did just drop out for no reason. Way to look over a big plot hole.read topic, will probably be appearing in expansions
The DLC is said to consist of entire cities, and if so, San Andreas is a logical choice.So even if we don't get San Andreas we're still getting an ENTIRE new city (or cities as they put it)?
bought this game [Boom Blox] yesterday after trading in crazy taxi with guns (the terrifyingly overrated GTA4)
Are there male prostitutes? Can your guy be gay?
I believe there are actual gay men you can date but I haven't figured out how the dating service works so I wouldn't know. It seems EVERYONE either rejects me or doesn't reply back.
I hate it when people pay money for stuff. Like when I go to the shops, I hate when they totally sell out and provide me with a service in exchange for my money.UGH! HOW DARE YOU PAY ME FOR AN ITEM WHICH ONLY YOU WANT?!
The latest in the bad boy of video games has achieved something other record-breaking franchises haven't pulled off, including Harry Potter books and blockbuster superhero movies like Spider-Man.
As we reported last week here at Sync, Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto IV generated about $500 million in revenue its first week.
Well, today, the folks behind the Guinness World Records made an announcement the game – which has also sold 3.6 million units its first day, generating $310 million in revenue – has now broken the record for "highest revenue generated by an entertainment product in 24 hours."
This achievement far surpasses other video game, film and book releases. Specifically, this is how Grand Theft Auto IV's $310 million dollar day stacks up against its closest competition, according to Guinness World Records:
* Fastest-selling video game in 24 hours: Halo 3 at $170 million
* Fastest-selling theatrical movie in 24 hours: Spider-Man 3 at $60 million
* Fastest-selling book in 24 hours: Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows at $220 million
Do you think the game deserve this monetary milestone?
Hey, anyone wanna play online? I just got Xbox Live, gamertag is C NIG14, let me know! I just wanna mess around in the city, but yeah, lets play.
Ok I have finally got my copy of GTAIV and it is fucken awesome, but somethings been bothering me, I go into a bar and I cant buy any drinks(Censored Version)so I'm asking anyone who has the censored version to tell me is their a way to buy drinks on your own or can you only get drunk through dates and shit?What the hell...you can go into bars? The only thing I remember being able to go into were fast food places, apartment buildings/mission buildings, and the strip clubs.
What the hell...you can go into bars? The only thing I remember being able to go into were fast food places, apartment buildings/mission buildings, and the strip clubs.
You can't go into a bar and buy a drink...as far as I know.
You can call your friends and invite them to go drinking. Being drunk is so ridiculous man how can you have missed that?He has the censored australian version.
As far as walking in and buying one for yourself I don't know if that's actually possible but then again I haven't tried.
oh that makes sense.
ps why would anyone ever live in australia what's wrong with you guys
oh that makes sense.I don't know the ridiculous amount of hot chicks, easy living and beaches!.. BUT I don't live in Australia, I live in New Zealand so.. yeah. So you cant just go into a bar and buy a drink like a hot dog or something, man that sucks haha, I can still invite people out to get drunk, was just wondering if you could do that in the US version is all.
ps why would anyone ever live in australia what's wrong with you guys
Ok I have finally got my copy of GTAIV and it is fucken awesome, but somethings been bothering me, I go into a bar and I cant buy any drinks(Censored Version)so I'm asking anyone who has the censored version to tell me is their a way to buy drinks on your own or can you only get drunk through dates and shit?
I live in New Zealand.
Yup I got to say that this game is a most have for any gamer...
That's like saying why do people live in New Jersey because they tax the shit out the people that live there if you can call it living since allot people moved out since life here has become so hard since most job start you with shit wages normally and part time. property is expansive just for a Small apartment will cost you roughly 600 (these are hard to find) normally the going rate can be up but not limited too $800 (this is a Small apartment mind you just rent) hell I only make about $1000 a month and that’s not including utilities and most people that have kids in NJ happen to still live at home even after there age 30. Hell lets just say it why dose anyone live in the USA.
huh, I didn't think that was so bad (800ish for an apartment). I live in Hamilton, Ontario (Canada) and I pay 840/month for a 2 bedroom apartment here (not a huge one by any means) (utilities included) and all the apartments are pretty much on par with that. Basement apartments are considerably cheaper though.Personally, I don't think that is a bad price for what you are getting. Also, you are paying in Canadian denominations, so that would be a little bit cheaper if it were in the United States. By the way, you go to the dating site somewhat early on in the game, so keep doing missions and it shouldn't be too far away.
EDIT: Okay to stay a bit on topic. I just got this game 2 days ago and haven't played too much of it but it seems pretty good. I like the driving mechanics of this one and Little Jacob makes me laugh.
I have a question though, when do you get to go to the internet cafe to stick yourself on the dating site? Right now I've got Michelle as a GF but I don't really like her too much.
whew, thanks. wasn't sure if it it was until KiLLMasTer told me so.:joned:
This is like 1000% off topic but
In Minneapolis a slum studio apartment goes for about $600, and for anything with a bedroom you will pay $800 or more. A nice apartment is always well over $1000. It's actually cheaper to buy a house then rent an apartment in the Twin Cities but since young people can't afford to buy into a mortgage well . . . (unless of course you get a no-money-down adjustable rate mortgage but let's not even get into *that*!)
Yeah seriously cost of rent/housing in the US is OUT-OF-CONTROL dude (at least where I live).
huh, I didn't think that was so bad (800ish for an apartment). I live in Hamilton, Ontario (Canada) and I pay 840/month for a 2 bedroom apartment here (not a huge one by any means) (utilities included) and all the apartments are pretty much on par with that. Basement apartments are considerably cheaper though.
huh, I didn't think that was so bad (800ish for an apartment). I live in Hamilton, Ontario (Canada) and I pay 840/month for a 2 bedroom apartment here (not a huge one by any means) (utilities included) and all the apartments are pretty much on par with that. Basement apartments are considerably cheaper though.well dude $850 for a two bedroom is pretty reasonable but $600 for a shitty studio is a whole other thing entirely! a decent two bedroom would probably be at least twice as much as a studio which would mean $1200 which is 50% more than what you're paying! kind of a big difference
EDIT: Okay to stay a bit on topic. I just got this game 2 days ago and haven't played too much of it but it seems pretty good. I like the driving mechanics of this one and Little Jacob makes me laugh.
I have a question though, when do you get to go to the internet cafe to stick yourself on the dating site? Right now I've got Michelle as a GF but I don't really like her too much.
My friend, you just got thoroughly boned. (http://digg.com/gaming_news/GTA_IV_Uncut_Hits_New_Zealand_Streets):crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
you can still do that though, fortunately. turns out that when you go into a bar, it just fades to black and then you walk out drunk. so... they've censored the bar scene, but you automatically get drunk when you visit one.actually thats the way in the version I play as well i dont think any of the games have actual bar scenes for random drinking :(
AUTOMATICALLY DRUNK WITH NO OPTION TO HAVE JUST ONE DRINK
AHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit are you kidding.
I'm moving there for law school noooooooo.
I hope there is some student housing shit!
I don't know how much the dormitories cost but I remember talking to one student and she told me that the housing fee was more expensive than my rent (DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE).
actually thats the way in the version I play as well i dont think any of the games have actual bar scenes for random drinking :(really. well now i'm confused and i don't know what we've got here!!
hey when you do that mission where you have to kidnap grace whoever and packie tells you she's got her car up on autoerotica.com, did anyone else just hear EROTICA.COM and think he was using what it turns out is the name of a car as a euphemism for vagina? i didn't realize until i went to the website that her NICE PINK FUTZPA or whatever wasn't supposed to be porn.
so yeah, looking back certain missions were kinda shitty, and i definitely wont be playing it again until the expansion comes out, but im kinda glad the shitty missions were there, even if it was just to remind you how pretty bad niko's life is.
driving drunk is soooooooooo fuuuuuuuun youre missing out
Anyway, I think I remember Jester mentioning that there were two endings? Where's the "change point"? 'cause I double-saved before the work with/kill Dimitri mission, and I'm thinkin' that's the major turning point. Anyone wanna correct me if I'm wrong?yep, that's the only choice point in the game that actually affects anything.
But alas, now I'm just finishing the Bernie and Gambetti missions before going back to Gerry and I guess I'm finding a little more enjoyable. I dunno, I just feel like there's still a lot missing from the game in some ways. Not that it's not amazing, but ehhhhh.Did you miss Gerry's missions? Because Gambetti's missions led up to the endgame...so...
nah but i killed him too! dwayne's just..... he's too much like me i couldnt do it
pluuuuuuuus you get a nice pad after you off pbx so thats handy!
i just killed playboy x and i feel kind of bad about it. is there a way where you don't have to choose between the two of them?nope, but he never gives you anything anyway. he never becomes a friend, there's pretty much no interaction with him anymore.
i just killed playboy x and i feel kind of bad about it. is there a way where you don't have to choose between the two of them?
I thought I was the only person in the world who would choose Dwayne over Playboy X aka I killed Playboy. I didnt know Dwayne was cool like dat.dwayne is like 10x more of a sympathetic character and playboyx is kind of a blowhard so i imagine it's a pretty common choice!
Fuck youuu.
p.s. sorry to New Zealand for getting our version.
Hey guys, at what point in the game do you get to actually cross the main bridges? I'm on the mission where Faustin orders you to kill Dimitri's cousin.you are quite close, you get to bohan after you kill faustin and im not sure when you get to algonquin(is it when you meet dwayne???
I'm really itching to explore more of Liberty City since some of the current streets are getting old. I want new scenery, so how close am I to seeing it?
you are quite close, you get to bohan after you kill faustin and im not sure when you get to algonquin(is it when you meet dwayne???the bank triggers algonquin
you are quite close, you get to bohan after you kill faustin and im not sure when you get to algonquin(is it when you meet dwayne???
i didn't really like playboy x from his introduction. the only thing that made me even consider not killing him was the fact that he wanted to build parks and schools and things (and apparently even looked into it by talking to yusuf amir, so he wasn't all talk like manny!) but aside from that, he really wasn't likable or interesting at all whereas dwayne was an actual human being and an interesting character.hahaha yeah that GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY thing was the exact same thing that gave me pause when choosing too!
hahaha yeah that GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY thing was the exact same thing that gave me pause when choosing too!that thing never crossed my mind because i pretty much figured playboy x was a dick and that he was saying shit to seem better to niko.
the bank triggers algonquinman i am 100% sure than i was in algonquin before robbing the bank
it triggers alderney, not algonquin. he probably just forgot which was whichYeah.
bohan and broker are available from the begining. algonquin is unlocked when you give playboy x a lift over to his apartment at the end of one of elizabeta's missions. alderney is unlocked, as far as i could tell, when derrick mcreary is smacked out on a bench in a park near the south of that area.Nah, Alderney is after you do Three-Leaf Clover, where you rob the bank with Packie.
Nah, Alderney is after you do Three-Leaf Clover, where you rob the bank with Packie.
brother did you kill? I chose the cop since he seemed to be the more corrupt, more fucked up arrogant prick.
I went the REVENGE ending route and the whole thing where Kate gets killed was fuckin crazy for me. Too bad I felt the ending was kinda empty.
my favorite part of san andreas was just sort of going on scenic motorcycle rides through the mountain countrysideyeah this is the thing i miss the most from san andreas. the thing i liked best about it was being able to just hold down the drive button for like 3 minutes and not move your controller, you'd just go. it was fun to cruise around in huge open landscapes and not need to do hard brakes for 90 degree turns every 8 seconds.
yeah this is the thing i miss the most from san andreas. the thing i liked best about it was being able to just hold down the drive button for like 3 minutes and not move your controller, you'd just go. it was fun to cruise around in huge open landscapes and not need to do hard brakes for 90 degree turns every 8 seconds.
Driving a speedboat into the sunset just doesn't have the same charm.Especially when there's Brucie in the back chatting it up.
Man this is what I have been saying all along. For all the steps forward it's taken, GTA4 has taken even more back. Yeah it's great and it's fun, but I think people have just FORGOTTEN how huge and great SA was. The whole fucking GANGSTA LIFE NIGZ pissed me off to no end, but there was so much to do in that game, and the scale felt so much bigger and real than in GTA4. Understandably, given that SA takes place on a COUNTRY SCALE and not a CITY SCALE but like... it just felt so much more complete.I agree that GTA4 could have included some things which were in GTA:SA but I don't think you really remember just how much better GTA4's city is compared to whatever San Andreas or previous GTAs had to offer. GTA4 is already really huge and sure, while GTA:SA was even bigger, GTA4 is ten times more dynamic and impressive, so as to which one feels more real, I don't think there's any question about that, it's not San Andreas.
weren't you the guy who said GTA SA was too black.
think that's what you're getting at...
I agree that GTA4 could have included some things which were in GTA:SA but I don't think you really remember just how much better GTA4's city is compared to whatever San Andreas or previous GTAs had to offer. GTA4 is already really huge and sure, while GTA:SA was even bigger, GTA4 is ten times more dynamic and impressive, so as to which one feels more real, I don't think there's any question about that, it's not San Andreas.The main areas that are better in GTAIV imo are story and combat, the city... uh not so much. I mean I didn't really see any of that more living breathing city stuff they were talking about before the game was released. Really to me it just feels like a standard GTA city but much more bigger (well NPCs are better drivers now though). If someone can prove me wrong here please do so cause I'd like to know what it is that's so dynamic and impressive about this city over the previous ones.
Maybe I should replay San Andreas as well and maybe I'm wrong and it's actually a lot better than I remember but like other previous GTAs, it couldn't really keep me interested for more than 5-10 hours.
I can't remember many of the characters from SA apart from SHIT RYDER NIGGER SHIT SWEET FUCK SMOKE SHIT CJ MOTHERFUCKER because that is basically what happened in 90% of the conversations.I thought Woozie, Zero and The Truth were pretty cool and I was actually hoping to see them in GTAIV.
Anyone know of the rumor or something about one of the DLC being a fucken ZOMBIE OUTBREAK!! with the city in ruins and you being one of the survivors?if this is true im gonna cream my pants
this game is too similar to the getaway.Isn't The Getaway just a rip off from GTA anyway? One thing I though this game would have was an improved version of the talking to the citizens from San Andreas. Y'know the push left or right for a good or bad answer. Also their STILL isn't any pedestrians or anything getting into much trouble with the cops or anything. Although you can go looking for that serial killer mentioned on that news website in the game.
And The Getaway was an action game with driving segments. Pretty much had nothing to do with GTA play style.
Isn't The Getaway just a rip off from GTA anyway?
Awesome story!Haha that was great man. Right now I'm doing those Assassination missions, these are pretty cool. Just off like 6 guys with a Rocket Launcher since they all had bikes and I really could be bothered chasing them all down :happy:
This game got annoying when I kept repeatedly failing a mission and had to keep retrying. Once you spawn, you still have to drive to the location and the ammo you used in the previous attempt carries over. Not much of a "retry" if things like ammo aren't rolled back.
I'm on the mission where you have to kill Faustin's daughter's biker boyfriend and chase him down on a bike (which handles like shit) while he effortlessly weaves in and out of traffic at full speed, he's a hard target to hit and the XBOX controller has such a shitty analog stick. Blaaaah.
I realized I didn't have to kill him while he was on his bike, so I just chased him to the park and it was pretty easy. I was just trying to focus on shooting him and dodging traffic at the same time and I couldn't do it - he wouldn't die and he was just weaving too much to be hit (without locking on).
Anyway, I still get annoyed at failing a mission and having to drive to the location again. I tried calling a cab, but then you have to wait for it to arrive and sometimes Roman doesn't have one available to use. I think I had to wait through some talking before I could press A. I don't see why R* didn't make checkpoints at the start of missions, or why used ammo carries over...sometimes I'll fail near the end of a mission and have no ammo to use for the next attempt, which means I have to load and then travel to the first location, then the next, etc. Just very annoying for some missions which can be failed easily if you don't know what you're doing.