I mean, if it is a genuine and real hole... Where would it lead?!
It's not the kind of hole you guys seem to think it is. It's like a clearing in a forest. An area with less stuff in it.Yeah, at first I was thinking. A hole, hole? :fogetshrug: So, where does it lead to, blah blah....Then I saw that it was just emptier space. Nice and interesting, but not quite like I initially thought.
BREAKING NEWS HEADLINES SCIENTISTS LOOK INTO EMPTY SPACE AND FIND...
well not a whole lot of anything by the looks of it. :hmm:
Wasn't this found several months ago?yes and we all came to the conclusion that it can't exist because we can't see it
Wasn't this found several months ago?
Anyway, I don't see how it's amazingly interesting. Maybe I'm missing something... It's just an area with less-than-normal amounts of x, y, and z matter, right?
I assume that completely empty space is pretty frequent in the immense gap between galaxies, but that what makes this particular find incredible is that its inside a galaxy.
Well I mean its a potential huge find.
Maybe it really is just a zone where no objects are to be found right now, like that many heavy stars at the fringe of the zone pulled objects away from it, or I don't know, a rogue black hole passed through that zone at one point and dragged everything out of it.
But it also allows for very wild speculation. What if they found out that this... DEAD ZONE was almost a perfect sphere, as if, in it center, there was some sort of mysterious object that repulsed everything away from its radius? That would be an incredible find. Or maybe an object that somehow scrambles the VLA over this area so it returns no readings? Like say some sort of special radiation emitted over a large zone or whatever, by a star in the middle of that zone (so maybe that area actually has a normal amount of matter, but somehow escapes detection)
I wish the article told us more about what they found, like the shape this "nothing" has. Or maybe they themselves couldn't really approximate it or whatever. Im sure a NASA scientist would find my SPECULATIONS pretty silly though!
Also would this be a result of the universe's expansion, or what?Actually universe is shrinking. I read some study about dark matter and blah blah, it looks like everything is pulled together or something like that. They used to think everything is expanding but then there was something in dark matter that made some einstein relativity theories and such go :blarg:
Or maybe an object that somehow scrambles the VLA over this area so it returns no readings?
Yeah, I'm pretty well informed that it's expanding, Orange. Entropy and the heat death of the universe and all that.
Man, since everything has a beginning and an ending, does that mean the universe also has an ending? If so, then what is there AFTER where it ends? Nothingness? Void? This kind of shit always makes me wonder sometimes. And whats even more frustrating is that we may never know :<
I find it hard to be "sure" about space. I don't know why. Maybe if I go there one day...Science can never be 100% sure about anything, it's just that science has enough evidence to lead to the probability of something being true. In this case, there's tons of evidence to suggest that the universe is expanding.
So this void is 6 x 1021 miles long?No, black holes are no more threatening than stars or groups of stars. Yes, they have more density concentrated in volume, but it's always the same mass. If our sun were to become a black hole (it pretty much can't, but let's talk theoretically), Earth wouldn't be sucked into it. We'd all die of lack of sunlight, but Earth would continue to revolve around the black hole just as it did the sun.
That's pretty large. Thankfully it isn't a black hole, because, if I remember correctly, black holes are dense enough that they contain the same amount of matter of earth in a cubic centimeter. I'm sure you can guess what that means if there were a black hole that large (yes it goes without saying it would really suck, but that's a bad pun, correct terminology would be it would really 'pull'.)
Why is it hard to be sure? We know plenty of stuff about things we can't reach. You know the sun is hot, but it's not like you're right there, either.
Well if scientists make mistakes couldn't the "expansion of the universe" and this void be one of them?Of course there are a lot of mistakes in astronomy (Hubble himself miscalculated the age of the universe, and it was accepted for years before anyone questioned it), but more than one astronomer works on these things. Most theories, especially the really big ones, are tested and retested by many different people. It would take some truly serious flaws in ALL of this kind of research for these things to be wrong.
There is a lot of evidence ... that the universe (ours at least) is not infinite.
It's them, do not be fooled. This is the only warning we will get.
No there isn't.
fffff nice reply
you do realize that this is your exact argument here (http://www.theonion.com/content/point/this_war_will_destabilize_the), don't you?
ESA: Is the Universe finite or infinite?
Joseph Silk: We don't know.
Yeah, this isn't a black hole. Black holes have mass, but this hole has no mass.
I love when things like this are found, because they force astronomers to reassess their ideas of how the universe works. It's going to be a long, long time before we have everything figured out.
Evangel and OrangeO's you know you're not supposed to question scientific dogmata, right? If you do you're either a moron or a troll (that's not my opinion it's GW's).
These are the truths you must NEVER question:
- The universe is expanding
- Scientists never make mistakes
- The equipment scientists use is perfect and free from interference or defects
- Dark matter
To doubt and question any of these is the worst crime against humanity you can commit right now