| Forum Name: | Brawl Tag: | Friend Code: |
| Sarhan | BAN | 1891-0832-4255 |
| Man-O-War | M-O-W | 0731-4419-1999 |
| YoshiJRC | JRAFF | 4038-5676-1305 |
| halibabica | Libby | 0645-5438-6224 |
| jman00 | JMAN | 3609-0712-5466 |
| Tatsujinken | Tatsu | 4038-5653-4308 |
| Capt_Strife | YLYM | 5026-4094-5824 |
| BlindMind | Aaron | 3866-7692-5205 |
| NightBlade | Night | 2750-0773-8502 |
| abkewl5 | Loki | 5412-9566-7463 |
| Pasty | Pasty | 4425-1160-0614 |
| Terin | ----- | 0516-6940-9694 |
| Riptor | Steve | 3566-1227-8074 |
| IceSage | ----- | 4897-5603-0259 |
| the_hoodie | HoodE | 1289-7905-5050 |
| Eric | Eric | 1504-5382-5906 |
| Evil Bob | Jesus | 0216-0489-5844 |
| Velfarre | Gnoll | 0473-7480-8774 |
| TrickLobster | ----- | 5455-9050-3845 |
| Trash Head 2 | Trash | 3866-7712-0866 |
| JohnnyCasil | Johny | 4382-1634-9871 |
| Erave | Tyler | 0473-7489-1051 |
| King of Games | ----- | 5370-0117-0936 |
| Mateui | MAT | 1461-5905-1317 |
| Despain | ----- | 0173-0993-0846 |
| DDay | ----- | 0860-2939-7818 |
| Doppleganger | T-POP | 0473-7436-1564 |
| Cheesy Doritos | Julio | 2148-7886-6225 |
| weesman88 | WES | 0946-1908-2220 |
| mkkmypet | Krusz | 3222-5249-4770 |
| angry black man | HMLND | 4725-7693-2927 |
| Nikuru | Telos | 0173-0952-8065 |
| sanctuary6284 | Sanc6 | 2105-8306-0441 |
| Raziel | BRYU | 1375-6956-4612 |
| daaku | Sol | 1375-6887-5441 |
| yomic777 | Yomic | 3136-6260-6230 |
| HolyFlame | SION | 0774-3925-5754 |
| Belross | BELLY | 4339-2243-2641 |
| Mr Epic Hero | EPIC | 0301-9551-4399 |
| jaller141 | Jallr | 1805-1959-9491 |
| Omcifer | 2LATE | 3823-8290-2315 |
| Mirthless | ----- | 3694-9708-3990 |
| Zohaib | ZOH | 4983-4636-4304 |
| Chainer | Piko | 5112-3276-0678 |
| Montai | ----- | 1848-1345-8316 |
| Carius | JCE | 0173-1173-1928 |
| jsnnoa | ImNot | 3394-3389-6977 |
| thejackyl | JCKYL | 2363-5582-5267 |
| Lord Typhoon | Eltee | 2449-4579-3996 |
| Christophomicus | Chris | 1375-7066-7628 |
| FQGamer | Zack | 3780-8700-4701 |
March 23rd!? Aww, I'd get bear-blasted. Don't some people on the list already have the game *__*
I am kind of confused about friend codes. Are they in the game itself or on the Wii console? (I have never added anyone on one before). If it is on the console, where do I find it?
Sarhan, could you add me to the list please? I'll be getting my copy of Brawl in about 2 hours and I believe I already expressed interest in playing in any future GW tournaments in the brawl topic as well. Thanks. ;)
Tag: Pasty
Code: 4425-1160-0614
Edit: Do not add me to the tournament. I have promotion board and I need to be studying for that, not playing vidcons.
Edit 2: I hate to be a shithead, but when I put in BlindMind's code, the game keeps telling me that it's incorrect. Help, anyone?
Is anyone else having problems connecting to WFC? I keep getting a Disconnected from network during transmission error with an Error Code: 31109. I can go to the Wii store and Wii news channel and all that shit but I can't fucking connect to their stupid servers.
Same happened to me. His code is wrong.I most certainly do; provided I'll be able to eventually get the online running smoothly.
For those of you who wanted to be added, can you please tell me if you want to be added to the tournament as well?
The gameplay takes some getting use to, as does the characters because they all got changed in some way.
Speaking of which, playing with the Wiimote is retarded. I'm glad I kept my gamecube controller with a built in fan because I felt like an idiot trying to play with the unresponsive wiimote.
And I'm all over Lucas he is my favorite little dude. I can't stand how floaty he is (the dude must weigh 10 pounds) but holy shit is he awesome.
I played Sarhan online earlier (my tag is M-O-W) and let me tell you that he's all talk. A real chump.
Did you experience massive lag in that match? It was fucking brutal. My friend was on the same network though (the Lucas that was playing with us) so maybe that affected it. I tried to start another match with you and have him sign off but you logged. I haven't had one lag-free match and I have a very fast connection. Hopefully it's an issue with Nintendo that'll get taken care of soon.
Also, BlindMind, the friend code you gave me doesn't work. Could you double check it?
EDIT: All of you fools that haven't added me yet, add me. Friend code is 1891-0832-4255.
I can't get wifi working. So I need to get a usb converter tomorrow. Sarhan. You're mine.
(https://legacy.gamingw.net/etc/img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/liquor/epicfailure.gif)you motherfucking faggot
What?! Sonic in Smash Bros? What the hell... he doesn't even fit! This doesn't work with the story. He lives on Mobius...
I say we boycott this game because Nintendo tries to use a popular franchise to boost their sales.
here is a video of me playing brawl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5CQcJuyjvA&feature=related
Alright then Sarhan, I added you, I expect you to backup your claims, cause the usual people I battle get boring, so make sure you don't bore me too much. >:3
just unlocked ron paul
no items
fox only
final destination
wish i could compete but i only ever play a wii at my friend's house
I'll be getting a TV, but it might still be a couple of weeks, which means that most of my time playing the game for now will have to be fifteen minute romps while my roommates are in class, unless I feel like not sleeping (which is something that I'm considering). This also means that I probably won't be playing much online yet.
Btw what do the papers do?
Btw what do the papers do?
Post if you'd be interested in doing some one-on-one's with me tomorrow at 6 PM Central.Yes. =X
Yes. =X
I like Pit too, though he lacks a really good smash. He can rack up damage really well but it can be tough to finish opponents off with him.
I just unlocked R.O.B. and he's so amazing! The only downside I see to him personally is that his up-B doesn't do any damage, however the plus side is that you can still attack after using it which makes him very versatile. I'm going to be playing a lot as him now. I can't believe people hate him though.. must be the WTF factor, because move-wise he's superb.
I'd like to do some one on one's with you guys tomorrow. I cought Jman online today, changed my message to "Fight Me JMan," but he logged off like a pansy. Post if you'd be interested in doing some one-on-one's with me tomorrow at 6 PM Central.
Btw I added all of the people on the list.
I got to play Sarhan today, and I did terrible. lol
Oh well, not much noticeable lag, thank goodness.
Good Games man
Lag was kinda meh. The game looked smooth but input lag was horrible.Hah yeah, that was frustrating.
Good matches though. I think Diddy's your best character. You know what was hilarious though? That Luigi vs DK match when I got the fan and got you to over 100% with it. My brother and I were laughing our asses off. I'm never throwing that fan again. Didn't know it was so rape.
Oh, and Jman, I see you reading the forum. Go online. I have about 20 minutes to play.
Good matches though. I think Diddy's your best character. You know what was hilarious though? That Luigi vs DK match when I got the fan and got you to over 100% with it. My brother and I were laughing our asses off. I'm never throwing that fan again. Didn't know it was so rape.
Just fought Sarhan, he's pretty tough, he beat me all 3 times, CONGRATS YOU DIDN'T BORE ME. (though I was havin' some much fun and laughin' my ass off when I was usin' Game and Watch!) Hope to battle you again!
My friend code is 5370-0117-0936, add me to the tournament and I want to face Sarhan.
Sarhan it says you havent added me yet, same with everyone on this thread. i added almost everyone. I just got a lan adapter today and have been owning up some with anyone brawls and am down for some 1v1s.
I had a lot of really good battles with Johny. He's a good Lucas player, holy shit :).As have I. He's quite a tough fighter, and not just with Lucas, either. I'd say we're fairly evenly matched. Looking forward to fighting more of you guys.
I can't believe you beat me with donkey kong.
yea, it was an ok match but the lag was ridiculous, it was like a snapshot game.
Yea, Sarhan, something is wrong on your end, cuz I was lagging to end. I played virtually lag free against BlindMind though. I couldn't even tell what I was doing half the time.
So basically, I know nothing of the Wii except how to turn it on and play games. Can anyone tell me how to get my Wi-Fi connection to work, and all the prerequisites necessary to do so? God I feel like such a cake.Under your Wii settings, you need to set up an internet connection. If your house has WiFi, then the Wii can pick that up on its own. If you have cable, you can use an adaptor that lets you plug the internet in for a wired connection.
I almost beat Sarhan. I'll get him next time for sure. Not too out of my league.
So yeah...if anyone wants to play, give me a time (central please) and I'll go on.Does now work? :sweat:
Does now work? :sweat:
Sarhan I'd like to play against you sometime I wanna see if your as good as people say ;)
I think my tag for any purposes will be Erave. Look out for me. I prefer 1 on 1s but free for alls and teams are cool too.
I'd like to give you a shot too Sarhan, I'll probably get on later tonight, but if not, I'll be on again tomorrow around the same time we tried earlier. Just let me know what times are good for you, and that goes for anyone else that wants to play.
If you guys want to set up games in real-time or something, don't forget that #[email protected] is there for everything fighting games related.
*coughcough*add #capcom to op*coughcough*On that note, shouldn't a topic like this go in the dojo?
On that note, shouldn't a topic like this go in the dojo?only if you want it to get not traffic (lol)
only if you want it to get not traffic (lol)Oh. I assumed this was the topic for the tournament, since it had the participant list and rules. That's why I was suggesting moving it. But yeah, if this is just the new general discussion topic, it's better suited here.
its fine here because its a pretty mainstream game, the actual tournament topic should go in the dojo though.
The time has finally cometh to get the desired revenge I have been waiting for, Sarhan... I challenge ye yet again!!! >:3
BTW if it's on a sunday I can't play I have work on that day But I am off on monday and tuesday.
I accept your challenge. I'll be on around 5 PM central today. Forgot I get back somewhat earlier on Wednesdays.
I will probably not be able to participate at all because I will only have wifi until Sunday afternoon and I don't have any sort of adapter to play online at college.
Yo Sarhan I want to fight you too, I can go on at 5 est son.
MWAhaha! Splendid, I'll be sure to await your arrival at whatever time that will be on Mountian Time.
Nintendo should've anticipated this activity. Even at the buttcrack of dawn there are so many people its impossible to play.
jesus, it's only been 3 days and the menu music already makes me want to punch through my eardrums with a mechanical pencil.
I don't know why people say there's lag. I haven't had any. I had lag for like... 2 seconds against someone near the end of a fight, but it was VERY brief and didn't impact game performance much. Other than that, out of the 12+ games I've played, I haven't really had lag at all.You have to realize that some people (ie: Sarhan and myself) are so used to the offline modes because of the way and level we play on is higher than most people that we notice and sometimes can't handle lag over 100 or sometimes even 50ms, at least, I know I can't. So sometimes you or others might not notice lag while there really is some lag that affects precise timing and shit and it fucks players like us over.
Maybe some people are downloading large files or doing things that would cause it?
Oh, and halibabica, fun fight the other day. I sucked HARD though. I kept doing stupid stuff like jumping off the edge.Don't get discouraged. Practice is key with games like Brawl.
So I won't trash talk yet, but I have a feeling that Erave and Sarhan will be my only competition. I've yet to 1v1 Sarhan, but I think that he'll go down swiftly.
I guess that's trash talk. Anyways, Sarhan, me and you 1v1 tomorrow. You make a good teammate, but I think you'll make a better punching bag. :)
man it's pretty depressing that everyone ignores me and that other smash tourneyfag in favor of Sarhanbut... but... the lag might mess up your n-th level 10ms precision brawl skillz ((joking) you're still going down))
i'll put you shits back in your place once i finally get this online bullshit working, hopefully my save won't be corrupt either.
EDIT: After playing longer, Nintendo seems to have been really out to get anyone who used ranged tactics. Lucas and Ness can absorb every projectile (and Ness' surrounds his frikkin body) and it lowers their damage as well. Mario's been "fixed" so badly I don't even want to play as the guy anymore.Uh well, Ness has always had that move, so nothing has really changed if that's what you mean. And it doesn't absorb every projectile, only energy based ones like Samus' charge shot, pretty much every PK attack, Pikachu's electricity, etc. Fox's reflector is much more annoying because it does reflect EVERY projectile. Mario's cape is pretty awesome too because it can deflect physical attacks too; the downside is that the cape has to hit the character itself to turn them around, so it doesn't work very well on Marth, Ike, etc.
the only time it was really obvious was with Sarhan. Which sucks, because I was looking forward to fighting him most (no offense, everybody else).
So I won't trash talk yet, but I have a feeling that Erave and Sarhan will be my only competition. I've yet to 1v1 Sarhan, but I think that he'll go down swiftly.
I guess that's trash talk. Anyways, Sarhan, me and you 1v1 tomorrow. You make a good teammate, but I think you'll make a better punching bag. :)
man it's pretty depressing that everyone ignores me and that other smash tourneyfag in favor of Sarhan
i'll put you shits back in your place once i finally get this online bullshit working, hopefully my save won't be corrupt either.
man it's pretty depressing that everyone ignores me and that other smash tourneyfag in favor of Sarhan
i'll put you shits back in your place once i finally get this online bullshit working, hopefully my save won't be corrupt either.
Pit's flying ability is so cheap, I've lost a lot of KOs because he keeps flying up from falls that would have spelled certain defeat in Melee. It's hard to knock him back down when he's half the stage away.My brother plays Pit all the time and I find the best way to knock him out of the stage is via a Meteor smash or Star KO. I prefer sending him upwards as he's extremely vulnerable from attacks originating below him. Also, in the air he's pretty slow - especially while using his recovery. That's the perfect time to jump, and attack him with up-A.
So far, Blind, KoG, MoW, and Johny are on my owned list.We'll see. :mad:
So far, Blind, KoG, MoW, and Johny are on my owned list. I havent lost if the match is relatively lagless.
So far, Blind, KoG, MoW, and Johny are on my owned list. I havent lost if the match is relatively lagless.
Yea Ness and Lucas are pretty good at opening smash balls. Damn them. But If you're Johny I played your Lucas with my Pokemon Trainer.
Let's do one on one. I'm pretty sure I'll beat you.
Oh yea, I'm sorry, I forgot about that. It was just today too. We will have to do some more matches then, since one isn't enough.
You probably will, the only weakness I have (including vs level 9 computer) is stupid fucking diddy kong. god i hate him. but i will make you work for it! I just beat Raziel in three matches even though they had some input lag.Yeah, I think I'll stick to Marth for online play and play Ganon exclusively offline. He requires too much timing on his good combos to be any good in any sort of heavy lag while Marth is just Marth and dominates just by being there and being easy to play.
tru dat.
Ness and Lucas' ability to open smash balls easily is slightly marred by the fact that their Final Smash just totally sucks in 1-on-1. You're lucky if your opponent gets hit even once...
Eric add me so I can whoop you. Im usually randomly online cuz i randomly sign on for a quick round or two. Im online now if anyones down.
The fact that Im so bad at this game irks me.Yeah for some reason it seems really easy to get accidentally turned around in Brawl. Maybe you are holding onto the joystick in the direction you are dodging too long so that you attack that way when you come out of it.
I keep having this problem, maybe someone here can help. I use the block dodge roll thing, mount a counter attack successfully with one small problem... I'm facing the wrong direction, and by the time I turn around... Yeah. Is there a trick to actually getting this right?
EDIT: If anyone (Sarhan) wants, I'll post this on the blog. Just tell me what info is needed and it'll be up pretty soon.
Eh? What blog? What're you going to post? I'm lost...
The only person who's posed a decent challenge so far is Doppleganger and even against him I win about 60% of the time. That percentage could have been higher but I made way too many mistakes when we played yesterday, like the Wolf vs Mario match where I had two stocks and you had one. I knock you off the stage and try to be cool and chase after you for a finishing blow, but end up hitting you up towards the stage, making your recovery easier, while screwing myself over with Wolf's crappy recovery. Then I don't remember exactly what happened after that but I remember suiciding my last stock as well. Just kept making a lot of stupid mistakes. Gotta make sure I focus more.
But I laughed so hard in our first match (Marth vs Mario) where I was raping you in the beginning. I was like "who's the punching bag now?" I wish the game didn't have the small amount of input lag. My Marth is insane when there's no lag and I can time all of his attacks properly, mostly because I play him the same way I did in Melee.
Oh yeah, and the Pikachu player with the "1+3=9" tag is a buddy of mine. He wanted to get in on the action. Overall, you're a good player, and easily the best I've played so far, but I can still take you.
KOG, I wish I would have gotten a chance to play you. Maybe we can set something up for this Saturday? Same with you TrickLobster. And you too Raziel (we have to do some Marth dittos). You all seem like you'd be pretty good players.
Yeah, that first match was something awful. I like to believe that my Mario is decent, but when pitted against Marth he really doesn't shine. I've yet to figure out a solid main, but I'm thinking that Diddy might be it. The Wolf battle was pretty ridiculous, you did suicide a lot. I can't say that I didn't suicide in some other matches though.
1+3=9 is pretty good, definitely the man with pikachu. Pikachu is way buff now.
So yeah, we'll have to continue our battling. You're probably the best I've played thus far, but I don't think that you can quite take the throne yet.
We'll have to organize something then. I'm thinking 10 matches. We keep track of who wins. First stage would be battlefield and after that, loser picks.
Yeah, 1+3=9 is a beast with Pikachu. He was good with him in Melee and he's even better in Brawl. His Pikachu actually gave me a phobia of Pikachu players and I occasionally choke while playing them. True story.
am i the only one who thinks that sarhan sounds like a massive dick
Sounds like a plan. Sometime next week around the same time as yesterday would work. The real question is how can we effectively ensure that the loser picks the stage. Me and Erave did it through aim, which is a little ridiculous. Then again, so is trying to set up a 2v2. I have no clue how to discern whether or not there are actually 2 equal teams.
As for pikachu, I think that once smash boards stops bitching about brawl, they'll put him in the top tier for sure. Marth, Diddy, Pikachu, that's my guess.
Anyone up for a game?
Man.Yeah, the delay is awful and kills a lot of characters that are otherwise good offline and makes shitty ones hard to deal with (DK is a prime example of this).
It's pretty hard to play with a 1/4 - 3/4 second delay time.
Jman if you could, add me as a friend I want to play against you ;)
J Friend Code: 3609 0712 5466, if you're up for it i'm game. (i hate big stages like Hyrule, shouldn't take 10-15 minutes to do a match...) X_X;The game definitely needs a timer like Melee could have in any mode.
@Sion - Maybe if someone didn't keep choosing FUCKING HYRULE, things might have been different. >:3
Yo I added you Cheesy Doritos, this was a long while ago too. I wonder why it hasn't
worked. Do you need to go online for it to finish it's registration?
~Sion
Eh? What blog? What're you going to post? I'm lost...
The only person who's posed a decent challenge so far is Doppleganger and even against him I win about 60% of the time. That percentage could have been higher but I made way too many mistakes when we played yesterday, like the Wolf vs Mario match where I had two stocks and you had one. I knock you off the stage and try to be cool and chase after you for a finishing blow, but end up hitting you up towards the stage, making your recovery easier, while screwing myself over with Wolf's crappy recovery. Then I don't remember exactly what happened after that but I remember suiciding my last stock as well. Just kept making a lot of stupid mistakes. Gotta make sure I focus more.
But I laughed so hard in our first match (Marth vs Mario) where I was raping you in the beginning. I was like "who's the punching bag now?" I wish the game didn't have the small amount of input lag. My Marth is insane when there's no lag and I can time all of his attacks properly, mostly because I play him the same way I did in Melee.
Oh yeah, and the Pikachu player with the "1+3=9" tag is a buddy of mine. He wanted to get in on the action. Overall, you're a good player, and easily the best I've played so far, but I can still take you.
KOG, I wish I would have gotten a chance to play you. Maybe we can set something up for this Saturday? Same with you TrickLobster. And you too Raziel (we have to do some Marth dittos). You all seem like you'd be pretty good players.
KOG, I wish I would have gotten a chance to play you. Maybe we can set something up for this Saturday?Absolutely man. I'd love to play you.
Eh? What blog? What're you going to post? I'm lost...
The only person who's posed a decent challenge so far is Doppleganger and even against him I win about 60% of the time. That percentage could have been higher but I made way too many mistakes when we played yesterday, like the Wolf vs Mario match where I had two stocks and you had one. I knock you off the stage and try to be cool and chase after you for a finishing blow, but end up hitting you up towards the stage, making your recovery easier, while screwing myself over with Wolf's crappy recovery. Then I don't remember exactly what happened after that but I remember suiciding my last stock as well. Just kept making a lot of stupid mistakes. Gotta make sure I focus more.
But I laughed so hard in our first match (Marth vs Mario) where I was raping you in the beginning. I was like "who's the punching bag now?" I wish the game didn't have the small amount of input lag. My Marth is insane when there's no lag and I can time all of his attacks properly, mostly because I play him the same way I did in Melee.
Oh yeah, and the Pikachu player with the "1+3=9" tag is a buddy of mine. He wanted to get in on the action. Overall, you're a good player, and easily the best I've played so far, but I can still take you.
KOG, I wish I would have gotten a chance to play you. Maybe we can set something up for this Saturday? Same with you TrickLobster. And you too Raziel (we have to do some Marth dittos). You all seem like you'd be pretty good players.
Hehe that means you've just got more searching to do before
you find someone who
makes you look like you suck.
It WILL happen. ;)
~Sion
yeah right nobody poses even a halfway decent challenge for me. i'm so bored. step up your game, losers. i can't sit around playing a bunch of amateurs all fucking day. i need to practice for the next tournament, where people are actually, you know, KIND OF GOOD. but only kind of.send me your code i want to play you
send me your code i want to play you
oh man
shut the fuck up
Damn, can you guys add me! Only ~5-10 people have added me, so I've got like 30 REGISTRATION NEEDED tags under everyone else. I'm adding Belross and Epic next time I go on, which is soon.
Also damn I'm running out of space for my real friends. Why is there a 64 person limit? Ugh.
The game definitely needs a timer like Melee could have in any mode.
Seriously it sucks having to deal with stalling when you're AHEAD of the guy and he's not doing shit.
and here I thought Sarhan's reply's in this topic were annoying before the game came out
well they were, but now they are worse
Anyway, I have been playing a lot the past few days, and I gotta say I really enjoy Lucario, at first i was like "oh this character must be dumb(like sarhan)" but then I played it a lot more, and have actually been kicking all my friend's asses, but i mean they don't compare to the people I'd play in a tournament who are just barely worth playing(because they actually practice daily like me)
Falco is my second favorite in this game, he just feels more like Fox did in Melee for me, who was my favorite character. Like, I am really disappointed in fox, he sucks in this game(imo). And then Lucas, he is just cool....all that PK stuff, I love it
don't have the game yet sorry
J Friend Code: 3609 0712 5466, if you're up for it i'm game. (i hate big stages like Hyrule, shouldn't take 10-15 minutes to do a match...) X_X;
This is going to take a while for me to get used to. 1 attack button and 1 special button... the d-pad dictating what attacks you do? Definitely something I'm not used to.
But before I keep practicing... I have a question to the more experianced players.
Should I keep using up as jump, and switch between A,B and the C pad for attacks... (I use a GC controller) or should I disable up as jump and simply use a and b for attacks and x/y as jump, ignoring the c pad altogether?
Velfarre that happens to me sometimes. ThHe way to remedy that is to start the group yourself if you have joining others.
no dude i can't even get that far if i try to go to the online menu it won't connect at all
I'm pretty sure Sarhan is just joking around. I am for sure. I know I'm not that good, but igniting a fire is a good way to get people to play you :).
it's pretty fucking mean to the people who just wanted to play with someone they vaguely knew for a fun game or two and instead get told YOU AREN'T EVEN A CHALLENGE ITS LIKE I'M PLAYING CHILDREN *overanalyzes pikachu stats*
I played this game yesterday and luigi is still the best.
it's pretty fucking mean to the people who just wanted to play with someone they vaguely knew for a fun game or two and instead get told YOU AREN'T EVEN A CHALLENGE ITS LIKE I'M PLAYING CHILDREN *overanalyzes pikachu stats*
I played this game yesterday and luigi is still the best.
In that case, that sucks. Maybe try disabling firewalls. There is a nintendo support site that may help you for online troubles.
and here I thought Sarhan's reply's in this topic were annoying before the game came out
well they were, but now they are worse
Anyway, I have been playing a lot the past few days, and I gotta say I really enjoy Lucario, at first i was like "oh this character must be dumb(like sarhan)" but then I played it a lot more, and have actually been kicking all my friend's asses, but i mean they don't compare to the people I'd play in a tournament who are just barely worth playing(because they actually practice daily like me)
Falco is my second favorite in this game, he just feels more like Fox did in Melee for me, who was my favorite character. Like, I am really disappointed in fox, he sucks in this game(imo). And then Lucas, he is just cool....all that PK stuff, I love it
it's pretty fucking mean to the people who just wanted to play with someone they vaguely knew for a fun game or two and instead get told YOU AREN'T EVEN A CHALLENGE ITS LIKE I'M PLAYING CHILDREN *overanalyzes pikachu stats*
I played this game yesterday and luigi is still the best.
I'm having loads of fun with Olimar. He's really good, he'll probably end up high tier (unfortunately). His up+b is super easily gimped though.
What exactly is annoying about my posts? Just wondering. Maybe you can explain it to me so I could try to be less annoying instead of being an ass about it? Just a suggestion.
When have I said that to anyone? I've never even implied something like that. If there's anyone that I've even remotely insulted, all they have to do is speak up and I'll stop. Simple as that. I've also told people before that I talk trash, but it's all just joking around. You can't pop into this thread every few pages and act like you know what's going on.
you said NO ONE POSED EVEN A CHALLENGE EXCEPT THIS GUY AND I WON 60% OF MATCHES WITH HIM, it's pretty fucking douchey, sorry. it's not TALKING TRASH, it's being a dick to everyone you played with so far who wasn't furiously tallying up their win loss ratio.
I never understood why people insisted on using the name Purin :/
I had some good online matches today... I don't think it was anyone here. I forget exactly who it was because I have a bunch of random friend codes on my list from various forums.I don't know...
Anyhow, I played a bunch of matches against the same dude... he used Olimar really well. Olimar can be REALLY REALLY annoying. In the first few matches, he beat me rather badly but I gained by footing later and scored a few wins with Marth and Sheik. I've been trying to get good with Wolf too but I still need work... I still accidentally kill myself too much by using his moves wrong :\
I'm still pretty bad but I think I'm making progress by playing online a lot.
I don't know...Playing against CPUs is complete bullshit and should never be used to gauge someone's skill level in any sort of games.
My opinion is that you shouldn't do that, because not only the online person knows, but anyone from around the world who is watching the match knows how much of a newbie you are also.
I suggest that you train offline until you are you are in "movie appeal" as I like to call it.
My personal training method is to fight in "team stamina" against as many Lv.9 Gannondorfs as I can handle (I know that I almost beat 3 with purin with: 86; 39; and 57 HP left) either that or completly clear 1p mode set on a difficulty above what you can handle. It's just like weight traning; sometimes you have to go above the limit.
Playing against CPUs is complete bullshit and should never be used to gauge someone's skill level in any sort of games.I hate to say it Raziel, but YOU are the one that is complete bullshit.
I do awful against CPUs yet I can take the fight up to some of the best players in the country and be on an even playing field against them. Playing the computer has nothing to do with how good you are in any games, even less with Smash.
I hate to say it Raziel, but YOU are the one that is complete bullshit.Uh, my proof is that I have several years of experience and major tournaments won or placed top 8 under my belt?
Your arguement has the least effecient if not any evidence what so ever.
Yes the CPU can help you if you know how to use it. And THAT requires skill, my friend.
I am living proof. Before I fought my brother I used my training method and I've won alot more times than not training whatsoever.
It also depends on how good the human player is.
One can brag that they are one of the best in the country butare they really?
Did you even win the battle?
In you last statement you said,"even less in smash" so that indicates that you have ZERO contensions toward smash.
And at least it's better to train that way insted of getting your ass beat online with thousands of people watching.
I guess you can train with a friend, but notheless you should not do the online training method.
And at least it's better to train that way insted of getting your ass beat online with thousands of people watching.
Uh, my proof is that I have several years of experience and major tournaments won or placed top 8 under my belt?Let me put this simple for you.
Seriously guy, get with the fucking program. It's the same in any goddamn game, be it Smash, Street Fighter, Starcraft or anything else. You train against real humans to HEY WHAT'S THIS?? get good against real humans.
I know, it boggles the mind.
I'm sorry if a scrub like you thinks playing against CPUs makes you even the least bit good, but it doesn't. It makes you used to CPU tactics which are the worst fucking thing ever because they don't do anything right except reading your input. No dashdancing, no chain throws, no actual combos except the built in ones, no DI, nothing. It's like playing against a retard, except you know, the retard might catch on that there are things outside the shit built into the engine that can be abused.
Guys, please don't turn this into a flame war. I think you both have valid points, but I do side with Raziel. A major aspect of playing against humans is that you have to wage psychological warfare. You can't practice that AT ALL against the CPU. While CPU opponents will allow you to practice your moves and combos they won't allow you to adapt your playing style to human nature - and when two human opponents face off with a similar skill level it's psychology that will determine who wins - your ability to read your opponent and exploit his patterns and weaknesses.Mateui is right, let's put the guns away and go ahead on with our business
the best way to train is to play against people, you're still wrong.Quit Trying to argue with me.
this is true no matter what the skill or game is.
Fair enough. You're right. That was douchey and I'm sorry I said it. Sorry if I offended anyone and I promise not to do it again.
Anything else?
you said NO ONE POSED EVEN A CHALLENGE EXCEPT THIS GUY AND I WON 60% OF MATCHES WITH HIM, it's pretty fucking douchey, sorry. it's not TALKING TRASH, it's being a dick to everyone you played with so far who wasn't furiously tallying up their win loss ratio.Didn't you win GW's biggest asshole award? If not, then you were certainly nominated and weren't far from winning. Oh, the irony. :fogetbackflip:
ZSS... is she actually unlockable or do you have to use Samus's Super Smash to get her each fight? (haven't been trying to unlock everything... considering I'm lazy.)
So Halibabica and Sarhan just kicked me around for a bit.This is how I fight. I'm still getting used to the new cast (39 is a lot more than 26), but it's my ultimate goal to be highly capable with every single character. Someday, I plan on leaving my token on the Random button and just letting the sparks fly with whoever I get stuck with. Changing characters constantly also keeps me from developing habits fighting with them (or at least I hope it does).
I have so say Halibabica was more embrassing because he literally went through the characters in order and beat me with most of them. I still can't find a good way to counter ZSS.
Heh... I beat Sarhan to second place, once... Guess that makes me the best. Watch out!!
But damn, your Marth is fine, Sarhan. Also M.O.W. or K.O.G. or whatever three-letter combination member who was also in those two/three rounds, you were really good! I'm definitely not placing high in this tournament...
Fought against Omcifer, you have plenty room young warrior, come to me again and we shall do battle... and you can have your desired revenge. Now, on that note of revenge, Sarhan, there is a platter with your name and Marth on it, tomorrow we do battle!!! >:3 (whenever you're available.)
I would like to join please.
My gamer tag is: 3694-9708-3990
Everyone, feel free to add me. Let's play together!
Brawl Tag: 2LATE
Friend Code: 3823-8290-2315
I'm didn't play much of the game for the 64, and I played melee for a little while. This game I am starting to take more seriously, though. Still, I'm not too good, but add me anyway!
Speaking of habits, Sarhan picked right up on my tendency to shield against people charging me. I'm definitely going to work on that little weakness...and try again when I have more than 3 hours of sleep.
Did you want me to add you to the tournament or just the friend code list?Whoops, sorry. Yeah, just add me to the friend code list. No tournament for me.
It sounds horrible for the following reasons:
-No defined item rules, makes each match different from one another rules wise. This is bad. Choose either all items, some items, or no items.
-Should probably set the time to turn in stuff WAY later than 5 PM....most people are just getting out of school, might have after school activities, might have work after school, etc.
Good points.
Most people who've shown interest in joining the tournament have said they want items on. Unless this is no longer the case, items will stay on. If there are items absolutely everyone wants off, we could so some sort of item ban list, but for now it seems all items will be allowed. Let me know what you guys think.
The thing about the 5 PM deal is that you'd have a day before that to play and PM the results. So you'd have from 6 PM of one day until 5 PM of the next. If this is still an issue, 9 PM might be better, but all this would really do is change it to 10 PM of one day until 9 PM of the next.
Maybe this is obvious to everyone else but I can't find any mention of it anywhere - but for this first tournament are the matches strictly 1vs1? It appears that way but I just want to make sure. Thanks!
Sarhan, when can you play today (EST time?) would be great to have some matches going finally at a decent lag since it seems like your bubble's in the green for me.
I'll have some casual videos up Wednesday, Wak (friend of mine, guy who did the How to play video and is one of the best Young Links and overall player in Canada) is gonna come over to destroy me.
Did you want me to add you to the tournament or just the friend code list?Both! =D
Are people sticking to one main character lately? I can't seem to commit myself to any one character. At first I solely played Diddy, then I tried out ROB and that lasted a few hours. Then I went to Olimar, followed by Snake, and now Sonic. I find everyone just so good and fun to play as. I probably will never be quite up to par to some of you here who dedicate yourself to one character and master them, but I'm not complaining - I just don't want to force myself to play as one character and limit my style. I guess I just came to the realization that I'm just not a hardcore player - but causual, that is all. :)I don't use a whole lot of characters. At first, I played with Meta Knight for a little while, then Pit for a shorter time. Now I am using Marth a lot. I think Marth is my favorite so far. I want to try Toon Link when I unlock him(i'm unlocking characters the cheap way by selecting low stamina and curry in special brawl.)
Dude, not curry special, flower special. Make the CPU's health 1 and yours higher. As soon as you start the match, it ends!:) Yeah, and I managed not to actually kill anything with any of them.
Also man those were a fun couple matches, Mat and Steve! I was laughing when Lucario got a Hammer, Star, Curry, and Pokeball right after another.
I don't use a whole lot of characters. At first, I played with Meta Knight for a little while, then Pit for a shorter time. Now I am using Marth a lot. I think Marth is my favorite so far. I want to try Toon Link when I unlock him(i'm unlocking characters the cheap way by selecting low stamina and curry in special brawl.)
Dude, not curry special, flower special. Make the CPU's health 1 and yours higher. As soon as you start the match, it ends!Yeah, they were pretty fun. Especially situations like that. :fogetbackflip: There was one match when so many pokeballs kept spawning and one of you kept getting it (Whoever was playing Wolf at the time). I remember the climax of the match with Lucario hanging on the ledge as Lugia appeared and just engulfed him with that huge gust of ice wind, giving the win to Wolf. Good times!
Also man those were a fun couple matches, Mat and Steve! I was laughing when Lucario got a Hammer, Star, Curry, and Pokeball right after another.
The Mario Bros. stage does suck. Your characters are so small and it looks shitty, sigh....I also am slightly annoyed by the "Ashley's Song" of the Wario Ware Inc. stage. Oh, and also G and W's special move where to turns into an octopus. On a more positive note, what is everyone's favorite stage so far? I tend to like to keep it simple, so maybe Battlefield. Delfino Square is good, too, and it brings back memories from me trying to get a fast time on it on the DS.I enjoy Bridge of Eldin and most of the old Melee stages. There's an excellent glitch with Jigglypuff in the former.
Also, Belross and other people who were supposedly online just now - did you guys add me because the only 2 people I saw online were Cheesy Doritos and Steve. I did fight Bob (Jesus) earlier in the evening - it was fun, much slower and more methodical, but definetely enjoyable.I think so, but I'll check next time I'm on.
You can do it quicker if you do stamina, set the computer's HP to 1, yours to anything above 1, and turn the flower on. The CP will die as soon as the match starts. There's a whole guide about it in the first post. (EDIT: Damn, didn't see your post Cheesy).Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. :fogetshrug:
Belross and DDay: Good matches with you guys today. Had a lot of fun playing (especially the Kirby/Dedede/Meta Knight matches) and I would have played longer but I kinda made plans to see my girlfriend and I was already over half an hour late. Hope to play you guys again sometime.
Are people sticking to one main character lately? I can't seem to commit myself to any one character.
A lot of the opponents I have been going up against use either Marth, Ike, Sonic or Metaknight. When I see them I just go, COME ON, SUPRISE ME FOR A FUCKING CHANGE. That's why I use, Mr. Game and Watch, King Dedede, Lucas, Ness, Mario, Yoshi and Wolf. :D Gotta vary my selection so I don't have to limit myself to 3 characters which I've seen so many do. (Oh and about the opponents I battle, the majority of those 4 is usually Marth or Ike, I mean c'mon... sure Fire Emblem is good an all but jeez... >_>; try some of the other characters out, Wolf is mean, any character that has a Meteor Smash I will be using, just to be a prick! :fogetcool:You do know everyone has a spike in Smash now thanks to footstool jumps right?
You do know everyone has a spike in Smash now thanks to footstool jumps right?
Those were some excellent games Trash, Night and I forget who else, but yeah fun.
Can't wait for the tourney!
DDay, those were some awesome matches, I had a lot of fun.good game I was sucking with kirby today sadly and my bro was using pikachu.
The Captain Falcon Vs. Sonic match was pretty epic, I was getting ping-ponged left and right in the first part, but I caught on!!
Hope to fight you again sometime.
I think that was me. Forgot to put my tag on until like...10 matches in. Had a lot of fun playing with you guys. NightBlade, aren't you the one that thinks he sucks? You're A LOT better than you give yourself credit for.Haha yeah, if it had been Melee I'd have been destroyed completely, he's lightyears ahead of me in terms of skills. Brawl sort of evens the field out but his experience and skill compensates for his shortcomings due to switching games.
Trash, what does your taunt say? I swear I saw one with my name in it, but it was cut off because I was on the other side of the screen.
Raziel: Nice video. Seems like Wak is still used to Marth's melee spacing. There were so many attacks/grabs that would have connected in Melee that completely missed in the vid.
I think I'm going to switch my main from Marth to Sheik. Even if Sheik isn't as good this time around.
I've found I just have more fun as Sheik.
Haha yeah, if it had been Melee I'd have been destroyed completely, he's lightyears ahead of me in terms of skills. Brawl sort of evens the field out but his experience and skill compensates for his shortcomings due to switching games.
Here's a few more videos of our sets, uploading the last one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeNqYSpuaEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqpN7_dsBTw
The second one is my favorite because I took a big fucking risk and it worked.
Sorry I dropped early Capt_Strife, my PC had crashed and that's why the lag kicked up at the end, had to reboot it and since I have to use the wifi dongle I had to disconnect.No prob man.
Also the reason I dropped on the first match is mostly because of items. The lag is already bad enough, I don't like adding another random element to be bothered about.
And finally, last video of our sets finished uploading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX2rEVe0geY
Anyone wanna brawl right now?Sure, I would like a few rounds.
Alrighty, I'll be on in a moment. I've got you added.I'm down for a game too. Just make sure you've got me (still waiting for it on my end).
Alrighty, I'll be on in a moment. I've got you added.Aw man, sorry for leaving. (And the lag)
Damn... I only got one Brawl in... and it wasn't with anyone here X.I just looked at the list and I don't think I've added you yet.
I'll be leaving for work in a few minutes, so if I'm still online (and not playing as Sonic/Olimar/ROB) then it's probably my younger brother playing (and if he is expect a Pit Side-B spammer :P NOTE: He's vulnerable to Up-A moves - it always works for me... :fogetshh:)Man, you need to stop doing Sonic's spin move all the time, it's the most laggy online scrub bullshit ever, my boyfriend and Wak were laughing their asses off next to me watching you play. It was funny as hell when I was playing Snake too because I was one the phone and had to play with one hand actually.
I wish I didn't have a dentist appointment today. Have to get a freaking tooth pulled out because the crown on it fell off while I was eating now and laters. Stupid candy.I love Now and Laters, especially the green ones.
Great games NightBlade and Cheesy Doritos. (Quoting Blood Falcon, "There is only one true Falcon!")
Btw I apologize for leaving on our last match NightBlade, but the lag was just unbearable. A tip to you guys (from what I have noticed) Final Destination might have a simple stage, but its laggy as all hell due to the background.
I don't think its a good idea to pick it much.
Great games NightBlade and Cheesy Doritos. (Quoting Blood Falcon, "There is only one true Falcon!")
Btw I apologize for leaving on our last match NightBlade, but the lag was just unbearable. A tip to you guys (from what I have noticed) Final Destination might have a simple stage, but its laggy as all hell due to the background.
I don't think its a good idea to pick it much.
Just a suggestion - We should probably all exchange our most commonly used messenger handles so we can request battles and such. Talking on a forum is kinda awkward, and the timing for waiting on people to respond is relative too. At least in messengers, there's instant results without having to guess when they replied, loading the page over and over again.
Man, you need to stop doing Sonic's spin move all the time, it's the most laggy online scrub bullshit ever, my boyfriend and Wak were laughing their asses off next to me watching you play. It was funny as hell when I was playing Snake too because I was one the phone and had to play with one hand actually.I can't believe no one else said something about this, especially after they complained about Sarhan, but man if you say "scrub" one more time in that condescending little manner one more time, I swear I will fucking e-punch you right in your e-nuts, so stop it. Would you kindly not talk down to other people as if you are the goddamn grandmaster of games, whom we should all bow down to as you effortlessly defeat us using nothing but your micro-dick to mash on the controller, whereupon you ejaculate into your boyfriend's hair and snicker about how we're all "scrubs" on the internet.
Otherwise, GGs everyone. Especially M-o-W who I got a bunch of decent 1-on-1s with.
Btw I apologize for leaving on our last match NightBlade, but the lag was just unbearable. A tip to you guys (from what I have noticed) Final Destination might have a simple stage, but its laggy as all hell due to the background.
I don't think its a good idea to pick it much.
I can't believe no one else said something about this, especially after they complained about Sarhan, but man if you say "scrub" one more time in that condescending little manner one more time, I swear I will fucking e-punch you right in your e-nuts, so stop it. Would you kindly not talk down to other people as if you are the goddamn grandmaster of games, whom we should all bow down to as you effortlessly defeat us using nothing but your micro-dick to mash on the controller, whereupon you ejaculate into your boyfriend's hair and snicker about how we're all "scrubs" on the internet.
Everyone should just go to #capcom on irc.whahay.net
damn you are really mad about the word scrub.You're right, it's pretty hypocritical of me to say "fuggin steel always causing shit" and then turn around to do something similar. But in my defense, 1. I rarely do it except when I really need to, and 2. while not he's not STRICTLY AGAINST THE RULES, it is pretty terrible to directly mock someone about a game in a topic dedicated to people trying to have simple fun with aforementioned game, and letting that kind of comment just pass on by wouldn't seem right; I am mostly responding to BAD ATTITUDE. Also I didn't really insult him too terribly (aside from implying he has a small penis (lol mature)) and honestly just want him to not act like a jerk.
granted it's pretty hilariously lame how he's like UGH...SCRUBS NOT USING THE RIGHT MOVES... but for someone who hates on me for bashing racists and incompetents you sure did get worked up about this.
I got the game today but can't really play it due to Wii being homosexual but as soon as I have dealt with the problem, I want to play online with you guys, though I'm afraid it can be pretty laggy since I'm European. At least I have a good connection though.Is that even possible? I thought that it was region locked, or on different WFC networks, or something?
Is that even possible? I thought that it was region locked, or on different WFC networks, or something?I got freeloader for Wii and rami already tried it online so it should work!
So according to Nintendo this game is currently selling at a rate of two copies per second.
That's crazy.
Yeah lag always seems bad for both people, no matter who "hosts" it, so at least there isn't any one-sided advantage from it.
im... im online rite nows....
Trash, what does your taunt say? I swear I saw one with my name in it, but it was cut off because I was on the other side of the screen.
checker knights is the new mach rider. god damn it i love checker knights
"EVERYBODY GET SARHAN"
today I'm conviced I'm having a bad day. won a few but That was mostly becuses of items. :(
what. bullshit man when did the game come out?Well since there are 604,800 seconds in a week it's not impossible based on their figure of 1.4 million units sold in the first
I was under the impression it was at least a week ago, but come to think of it that's not unreasonable if it's less.
still would have to be less by a good margin though, or their definition of "second" means when game stores are open or something.
today I'm conviced I'm having a bad day. won a few but That was mostly becuses of items. :(Lol it was fun man, me and my friend were facing you, had some intense matches, and in some matches we were just messin with you. Good fun though.
I can't believe no one else said something about this, especially after they complained about Sarhan, but man if you say "scrub" one more time in that condescending little manner one more time, I swear I will fucking e-punch you right in your e-nuts, so stop it. Would you kindly not talk down to other people as if you are the goddamn grandmaster of games, whom we should all bow down to as you effortlessly defeat us using nothing but your micro-dick to mash on the controller, whereupon you ejaculate into your boyfriend's hair and snicker about how we're all "scrubs" on the internet.You think I actually give a shit about this? It's not like you shits don't say anything about me and LOLPOINTS and shit, so what's me saying that doing FORWARD B WITH SONIC FOR 5 MATCHES IN A ROW WITHOUT EVER DOING ANYTHING is some really fucking retarded bullshit that only serves to irritate everyone in the match?
I will stop there because it is not very modly of me to call you out, but seriously please stop being so very fucking snide, as it is incredibly irritating, and I guarantee you I am not alone in this opinion.
Sarhan or anyone else who feels down for item-less 1v1s hit me up. Also, our SSBB group here started checking at stages to see which should be banned and which should be allowed/counter-picked, but the list is still very much in testing. Lylat Cruise is so banned because it STILL has Fox/Falco/Wolf's stupid fucking taunt that KILLS EVERYONE IN ONE HIT.
At school right now. I probably won't be able to play again until sometime tomorrow because I need to study for two finance exams tonight.I always found the ban on wobbling ridiculous, the thing didn't make the ICs god tier or unbeatable and it was ridiculously hard to get done anyway and won a tournament once because it was filled with idiots pretty much and Wobble was the only decent player there. He didn't even make top 8 at Evo Worlds and he still used ICs and wobbling.
Why not ban the taunt instead of banning the stage? Just disqualify them if they use it, like they did with wobbles in melee.
More tournament info:
The first post has been updated. Please look over it as soon as possible. I will be PMing tournament participants today to inform them of the new info in case they don't check this topic often. Important stuff you should know/do:
-Tournament begins this Sunday, March 23rd at 6 PM central (go to time.gov (http://www.time.gov) if you need help with time zones).
-Add everyone on the list of participants right away. Brawl doesn't always add people immediately so you should add everyone ahead of time to avoid problems during the tournament.
-Items will be off. Two people responded to my post saying they wanted them off so that is how it will be unless I hear from someone else.
-Best 2 out of 3 until the finals, which is best 3 out of 5.
Another place that should be banned is Hyrule Castle, cause most people tend to just pussy out in the bottom left area because its almost impossible to kill someone without em' goin' 500% or more! >Hyrule Castle was pretty much the very first level to get banned in SSBM for tournament play because of its size and the crazy advantage it gives to characters who can circle the stage with jumps and stall indefinitely, so there's no chances it'll be allowed in Brawl tournaments except maybe the first one.
Capt. Strife, good games, the lag however was really annoying. X_X;;;; (and tell you the truth, I was getting really pissed off at the lag, and that damn Ship! ><;)Yeah good games man.
LAG!!!
Good games TrickLobster, I like most of the characters you use. I just couldn't figure out that Squirtle of yours, heh.
Shame the lag ruined the last match, because it was looking good so far.
I haven't gotten a message from you Sarhan. Looking forward to the tournament. What's the estimated amount of entries?
I noticed my name wasn't on the list. I'm able to do the tournament, so I'd like to be included.
yea, it was fun. Im assuming youre YLYM or w/e and yea. Pokemon Trainer was the one holdin down the fort for me, especially squirtle. our last match was pretty good, it was pretty even wolf v c. falcon but then i shot my laser thing and it stopped halfway and decided not to keep going and then we got booted. the weird thing was with you its been the best connection ive had, as in relatively no input lag but also one of the people ive had the most lag with too. weird shit.Yeah thats me (You Lost Your Machine, death phrase from F-Zero X)
Also yeah I noticed my name isn't on the tournament list anymore, I still would like to participate.
Man, you need to stop doing Sonic's spin move all the time, it's the most laggy online scrub bullshit ever, my boyfriend and Wak were laughing their asses off next to me watching you play. It was funny as hell when I was playing Snake too because I was one the phone and had to play with one hand actually.I'm sorry - I didn't realize that performing a certain move caused lag. :sweat:
Otherwise, GGs everyone. Especially M-o-W who I got a bunch of decent 1-on-1s with.
I'm sorry - I didn't realize that performing a certain move caused lag. :sweat:
The problem I have though is I can't really stop doing Sonic's spin move since three of his specials are his spin move... I mean, isn't the point to Sonic to be very fast and use his specials as much as often (given that his neutrals are pretty weak)? Do other people have a problem with me? I try not to reuse the same moves all the time, but with Sonic, 3 out of his 4 specials look almost identical, and I'm not just going to stop using them because one person has a problem with them.
I can see people banning certain exploits and stages, and items as well, but to ban certain simple moves? That's just taking it too hard IMO. Over-reliance on a certain move should allow you to be able to counter it pretty easily since a noticeable pattern emerges, so I don't see the reason for complaining. If it's the lag factor then I am truly sorry because I had no idea - every match that I played with you has been lag-free for me. :hmm:
I'm sorry - I didn't realize that performing a certain move caused lag. :sweat:Yeah, I get worked up pretty easily because of lag since it tends to fuck me up so much. Sorry if I came across as harsh, that wasn't my intention.
The problem I have though is I can't really stop doing Sonic's spin move since three of his specials are his spin move... I mean, isn't the point to Sonic to be very fast and use his specials as much as often (given that his neutrals are pretty weak)? Do other people have a problem with me? I try not to reuse the same moves all the time, but with Sonic, 3 out of his 4 specials look almost identical, and I'm not just going to stop using them because one person has a problem with them. Besides, I'd love to be able to attack straight up head-on, but with Sonic being so weak that's just not an option. IMO, his only play style is to be fast, and attack with spins that lead into aerials..
I can see people banning certain exploits and stages, and items as well, but to ban certain simple moves? That's just taking it too hard IMO. Over-reliance on a certain move should allow you to be able to counter it pretty easily since a noticeable pattern emerges, so I don't see the reason for complaining. If it's the lag factor then I am truly sorry because I had no idea - every match that I played with you has been lag-free for me. :hmm:
My buddy's bringing his wii over and we're setting it up for online, is there anyone online now and can him and myself both play online with one wii?
Anyone from the UK got this and a Freeloader? I'm thinking of getting in on the action, but I don't wanna explode my Wii.hey dude, what does SSBB import and Freeloader cost in total?
Got this game on launch but didn't play intensively until few days ago. This game lives up to most of the hype. It's a total blast with 4 players!! Too bad the online experience isn't fully loaded with headsets, rankings, etc. Or am I missing something?
Also what's this "freeloader" thing everyone's been mentioning?
Wish I could join the tournament.. Sucks it's Sunday - the day I work for the entire fricking day.
hey dude, what does SSBB import and Freeloader cost in total?Dunno about Sweden, but less than if you bought it from Finland. :)
I need a PM for the tournament.
Wish I could join the tournament.. Sucks it's Sunday - the day I work for the entire fricking day.
My buddy and I are online now, If you fancy a match?
Brawl code is uhm, 0602-6101-8439
Well you could still join. You'd have until 5 PM central on Monday to complete the first round. Up to you.OH SNAP
I am on... and ready to kick ass and I'm all out of ass!!! (getting bored and want to battle someone...)
EDIT: Yay Blind wants to challenge me again. :fogetsmile:
I tried joining your game about 15 times there was errors that didn't let me stay in.
So I made one, but you never joined;(
Tomorow JMAN I wanna play you since I gotta head out for the night.
Well you could still join. You'd have until 5 PM central on Monday to complete the first round. Up to you.Sweeet... Sign me up man.
Agh. Unfortunately I must drop out of the tournament. I must go on yet another trip, and so will most definitely be absent from pretty much the whole thing! :xSame for me. I can start the tourney, but cannot finish.
Hey, I won't be in the tournament. My friends invited me to an Easter Dungeons and Dragons session and I haven't played in a long time. I'll have to make the next GW gaming bash.
A close battle between me and a buddy of mine, Azura.I don't want to sound like an ass, but that wasn't really good. Lots of unnecessary rolling, missed combos (especially on Azura's part) and generally stupid stuff. You guys aren't bad per se but you're definitely not par for the course either, see what I mean? Keep playing tho, and use G&W's downsmash to punish shield rolling and whiffed short hops, it's actually good this time around and has a hitbox all around G&W's body except directly above his head. His down-tilt is also crazy for setting up air combos and a bunch of other weird stuff that doesn't look right but works anyway.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=oFVNDqf1jLI
Neutral Legal Stages (6)
Battlefield
Final Destination
Lylat Cruise
Smashville
Yoshi's Island
Pokémon Stadium
Counterpicks (14)
Frigate Orpheon
Delfino Plaza
Luigi's Mansion
Battleship Halberd
Castle Siege
Great Sea
Mario Circuit
Port Town Aero Dive
Corneria
Shadow Moses Island
Green Greens
Jungle Japes
Rainbow Ride
Brinstar
Electroplankton
Green Hill Zone
Pokémon Stadium 2
Skyworld
what the hell is a counter pickA stage that can only be taken once the first match of a set has been played. Named counter-picks because they usually favor a certain type of characters over another, such as Yoshi's Story from Melee being incredibly good if you were Marth, but otherwise only normal if you were anyone else.
@Capt Strife - Please, for the love of god... don't EVER put Tomatoes in games again... PLEASE... its no different then Hyrule Castle... but short... and long at the same time... thankies. Good games otherwise.The interesting thing about that is that I also put assist trophies, and all on low. Which is odd because tomatoes and smash balls were appearing left and right, and no assists. Oh well.
The interesting thing about that is that I also put assist trophies, and all on low. Which is odd because tomatoes and smash balls were appearing left and right, and no assists. Oh well.
Also why do you pick 5 stock?
I think 3 is enough.
If anyone is up for some itemless 1-on-1s, hit me up. I'm currently hosting a match just waiting for people, so join me up when you want.
I added ya, so I'm up for a itemless one, if you also don't want Smash Balls then I'm cool with that too.Smashballs are out, I just turned every single items off.
Smashballs are out, I just turned every single items off.
@Raziel - Holy shit, that was fucking fun! You have a interesting fighting style, however a few things to add, you should try and vary your character selection, after a while it can get a bit easy to see what you're going to do next. Lucario is evil, but he's fun... (and that last match, I was like HOLY SHIT, YES, THAT WAS LIKE FUCKING CLOSE!)I try to limit my character selection to a few characters (three is good, four gets a little hectic for me) so I can play them at a high level. I play Lucario and Ganon because I like them, and I pick Wolf when I want to get serious. I need to work on my spacing with Lucario and Wolf tho, especially with their downsmash and Lucario's side B, I whiffed a lot without wanting to but it was even worse because of the added lag.
Also... why take the game seriously? We play this game for amusement... I don't know anyone who actually takes this game seriously... O_o;Uh, you do know Smash is one of the biggest competitive games in America and was a featured game at MLG, is a major event at MLG Gamebattles (the online counterpart to MLG), Evolution (world's biggest fighting games tournament) and was also considered for entry in the WCG and CPL leagues, right? There's hundreds of thousands of dollars in prizes given for Smash alone every years, and Brawl is already confirmed to be a feature game at Evolution 2008 and is the second most popular online tournament at MLG Gamebattles currently (beating out Halo 3, Gears of War and Call of Duty 4 and losing only to R6 Vegas 2, mostly because Vegas 2 has the whole new game hype about it still which will probably die down in the next week or so).
Okay, okay, I get it, I get it... Smash is the next FF7... O_o; Don't use the Book on me please... but in all seriousness here, they actually donate over 1000 dollars as prize money in Smash!? That there is news to me.Iirc, the prize money for first place at Evo2k7's grand finals in Melee was upwards of 10,000 dollars but I might be confusing it with some other game. And that's only for one tournament.
Overhype I say... that's why I wouldn't be hangin' around in a Smash forum, majority of them would be those cocky guys, and there are some who are godly, etc. Iono, its just not worth goin' to the Smash Boards, I wouldn't be suprised if the money is for Halo 3, but I think you'd be correct in sayin' that it would be for Smash seeing how it created more hype and PROBABLY more sales then Halo 3. (from seeing a comment earlier about 2 copies a second or something like that.)No no, that's Melee, not Brawl. Brawl's competitive scene is still in its infancy, Melee's been going strong in competitions since 2001 and onward. I'm mostly thinking I might be mixing the prize money with that of MvC2 but I think MvC2 might actually have been higher with something like 30,000 in prize money. The fighting games community is crazy for money, seriously. Some money MATCHES (not tournaments, just matches between two guys) hit up $3,000 and such sometimes.
Ah, I see... (also did tiny bit of research 120 units per minutes, damn that was a lot... especially in 1 day.) But anyhoo enough of that, you said that I had to dodge/short hop more, hopefully one of my characters gave you some challenge, and Mr. G&W made up for the battle you seen on youtube. :DYeah, I'm thinking G&W and other small characters are actually really hard to deal with as Ganon since they tend to go under his limbs and his down air because of his bulk. I need to be more careful around him because he's not awful shit anymore and I tend to forget that then FORWARD SMASH OH GOD IT ACTUALLY DOES DAMAGE NOW and I die.
countdown to raziel meltdownHaha that's actually pretty much the image I have in my mind when I play against most people. It's like HEY HE SHOULD BE TRYING TO HIT ME BACK WITH - WHAT THE FUCK FALCON PUNCH? then I die.
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I use 5 stock, too. I think it's pretty interesting how people gravitate towards 3 or 5, when 4 is (I believe) the tournament regulation number.
countdown to raziel meltdown
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Hey, don't diss King Dedede's final smash, his is probably one of the most deadliest final smashes in the game! Aside from Marth'sI dissed it? Well I am not saying it's bad, just strange. Also a little funny.Cheap 1 hit KO ShotCritical Hit!
Dude there was mad lag when I played you man.
GGs Sarhan and... your annoying Pikachu friend or whatever I guess (man fuck his down A :fogetcry:) We actually had very little lag, it was nice! Sorry to everyone who tried to join but couldn't because I wanted to keep it 1v1.
I can't believe you came back as Wolf on Luigi's Mansion after I decimated you so hard for the first half, I don't know how I let that happen, but that's what makes this game so much fun to play. There was another match where I would have had a decisive victory as well but I fucked it up, I think I was Dedede again on Lylat Cruise, I can't remember. Anyway, overall fun matches though, we'll have to do it again (was i enuf of a challeng 4u??)
Also how does it feel to lose to King Dedede as Marth ell oh ell?! :fogetbackflip:
Salty, but coming back and beating him a few times later makes the wounds feel better.i... i bet it did..... :fogetangry:
GGs Sarhan, Marth and Wolf fuck me up so much, I hate their extra range. I loved the ending on the Lucario mirror tho. I need to practice way way more :(
Edit: When are you up for some more sets btw? I should be free from now to 10 AM and then late this night.
Also is it just me or is it harder to play guys who suck than not? I can fight better people, but I don't do as well when I'm playing people who just got the game! I guess, half the game is prediction, and these guys are completely unpredictable, but... Anyone else have this feeling?
Also is it just me or is it harder to play guys who suck than not? I can fight better people, but I don't do as well when I'm playing people who just got the game! I guess, half the game is prediction, and these guys are completely unpredictable, but... Anyone else have this feeling?Become more offensive!!
What passes as playable delay? I've been getting an average of 0.2 seconds and it is bugging the fuck out of me. I am by no means at the competitive level... but I don't think training myself in this environment will help me much.
Become more offensive!!
Then it doesn't matter what he's going to do because usually there is maybe 1 thing he can do out of 5 that can save his ass, and he's going to pick one of the 5 things randomly. Works in Melee at least, stick to the other guy like glue. Pain glue.
I didn't think so either but I played a bunch of friends at home yesterday (whom I hadn't played with in over a week) and I think playing online helped a lot. I felt like all of my characters got speed buffs. Timing wasn't an issue either since the lag online isn't too horrible to the point where it affects timing. I hadn't been playing anything but online matches before that so I do think it helps, even if there is input lag.Yeah, I tried teching but because of the input lag nothing happened and then I mashed R some more but nothing happened and I was like "oh wait laser lock fuck you".
This is probably the best advice you're going to get. Constant pressure is key in screwing your opponent over, seasoned or not. Apply enough pressure and they start to panic, lose their cool, and become predictable. If you manage to do that, there's no reason you should lose.
Also Raziel, I just remembered I got your stuck in Falco's laser lock. I thought that was pretty hilarious. I wish we would have been in a walled/walk-off stage. His laser lock seems like it'd be a great strategy online since not many people are used to teching with the input lag.
Yeah, I tried teching but because of the input lag nothing happened and then I mashed R some more but nothing happened and I was like "oh wait laser lock fuck you".
I'm starting to pick up Snake and I just figured that his explosives aren't meant to do damage but just to make the opponent move in a way that allows you to PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE since Snake's non-smash normals are fucking rape.
@Nightblade - I don't usually make excuses (except for lagwise etc.) But I actually didn't mean to choose Metaknight, I am terrible with em' but otherwise good games nonetheless.
I would like to take this time to point out how much I hate playing online. Hitting myself with PK thunder as Lucas is one of my staple moves for both attacking and recovering... and it is impossible direct with lag.
I was wondering about the brackets myself...I'm waiting for Sarhan's official word, since he's the one running the whole thing.
Also, if someone gets paired with a no-show*, are they both automatically disqualified, or just the person who couldn't make it?
*by no-show, I mean "said they would participate, but can't now due to unexpected circumstances"
howz the masterpiece portion of this game?
playing classic games like metal gear must be cool, but how would they fit em' in this already MASSIVE game?
They're just demos. The time you can play them ranges between 30 seconds to 4 minutes.In other words, by the time you figure out the controls for any of these demos your time is up! Overall they're a pretty worthless feature and pretty much feels like a slap in the face by Nintendo (not only is the time way too short but they removed Earthbound from the NA release).
In other words, by the time you figure out the controls for any of these demos your time is up! Overall they're a pretty worthless feature and pretty much feels like a slap in the face by Nintendo (not only is the time way too short but they removed Earthbound from the NA release).
Even though I said this in my other post earlier this morning.
Where are the brackets at?
Less than an hour till game time is supposed to start and noone is online.
Come on Sarhan ;(
I have another question about this tournament - Ok, I get that we play the best of 3 matches, but do we have to stick to one character throughout each match/tournament or can we switch as we like?
I was wondering about the brackets myself...I'm waiting for Sarhan's official word, since he's the one running the whole thing.
Also, if someone gets paired with a no-show*, are they both automatically disqualified, or just the person who couldn't make it?
*by no-show, I mean "said they would participate, but can't now due to unexpected circumstances"
Calm down. I said brackets would be up by 6 PM central. It's only 5. Working on them right now. All of these late drops are annoying too. Have to figure out who to include and who not to.
Stalling I believe is avoiding fighting to run out the stock time limit after getting ahead in stock.
2 questions, what is stalling, like just sitting there not fighting?
Also on how to read the bracket, am I fighting BlindMind?
Stalling I believe is avoiding fighting to run out the stock time limit after getting ahead in stock.
Where do I go on the bracket if I win the first round but lose in the second?
AGHHHHHHHHH!!! I LOST!!!
Weesman88 hasn't been on in like 10 days.
If he is a no show would I get a forefit win or would I fight against someone else who might've had a noshow.
Ahahaha Jman I've never sudden deathed before in a stock matchIts rare... I do admit, got pwned by the Fish!
The Rules say Items OFF if you're playing with items you're doing it wrong.
Hey guys if you want to keep it organized you can always make a new tournament topic in the Dojo.
(Read: make a new tournament topic so this one can be for discussion)
Tatsujinken, I added you on hotmail. I can play early tomorrow, is that ok with you? Also, I hate to ask this, but what is double elimination?
Tatsujinken, I added you on hotmail. I can play early tomorrow, is that ok with you? Also, I hate to ask this, but what is double elimination?
I must figure out how I lost... O_o;;; so I'm going to sleep and be ready for the next round tomorrow, and hopefully I will be able to get a better adrenaline... Evil Bob, I'll remember this defeat. >_<;
Sarhan you always get lucky last 2 games I had you beat but I ended up killing myself from stupidity
Edit-
I HATE YOUR SHIEK!!!
too good with her ;(
I tense up way to much during tournament matches :( I was shaking almost the entire time I was fighting you. Good matches though.
Yeah, I don't know what it is. I just picked her up today and started kicking ass. Sheik used to be my best in Melee until I got good with Marth. I've tried her out a few times before (in Brawl) but didn't really like her much. She's definitely beastly though. I think I'll start playing her much more often now.
Sarhan, sorry for the shitty games today. I've been super sick with this awful cold for the past five days and it's not getting better. Kinda puts a damper on my ability to do anything.
Dude its not fair...
I randomed and got Lucario who I've played as once other than SSE
and at first i was doing fine we were pretty even dmg % wise. Than you flung me off the screen and EVERY time I got back over the play form youd hit me in the air like about 10 times untill I finally flew off. I had no chance of living -.-
And you never die one of the games I was like 80 % with 3 lives and you had 1 with 0% and you still beat me.. Its just not fair -.-
Eh...I guess we can do that. Not sure about how often people would check there, but I'll go ahead and make a new topic shortly.
Good matches Eric! I wouldn't say that I won using crazy bullshit spam attacks. For one; bowser doesn't have any real spam attacks, and for two; I was only messing around with pikachu's lightning attacks because it's pretty entertaining. A decent player can get by a repetitive slew of lightning bolts pretty easily.
Haha, the same thing happens to me too. Happened today while fighting Trick. Good to know I'm not the only one.
Still waiting on Terin to show up online or add me to MSN. His last post was on March 9th tho, so maybe I'll have a no-show.Same here. I sent mkkmypet a PM, but they haven't responded or been on in Brawl yet. Worst comes to worst, maybe I can face off with you instead. But, we'll see...she has most of the afternoon...
Man... I fell for that Pikachu lightning bolt thing against Doppleganger too... blah. Dumb of me. But that move is really annoying.I'm online now so I'm good to go. See you in Brawl shortly. Good luck!
I just couldn't seem to beat your Bowser with my Sheik! Gahh... I came close a few times though! Sort of?
Still waiting for Mateui so we can have our tournament match...
The next round brackets are gonna be up today at around 5pm central right?
Man, I couldn't even beat ONE! The most damage I got on one was like, thirty.I beat 7 enemies in Cruel Brawl, but I used Jiggly and simply floated under the Battlefield back and forth as the idiotic AI jumped after me and suicided.
I beat 7 enemies in Cruel Brawl, but I used Jiggly and simply floated under the Battlefield back and forth as the idiotic AI jumped after me and suicided.Same. I also did the 15 minute Brawl like that.
I beat 7 enemies in Cruel Brawl, but I used Jiggly and simply floated under the Battlefield back and forth as the idiotic AI jumped after me and suicided.
I hate Marth.
wow mat I feel bad to whoever plays you.Really? Whenever I play someone 1vs1 I ALWAYS lose... I'm just not up to the same skill level everyone else seems to be at. I think I need to find some people around the same level as me to practice on.
Your gonna win, your connection is slow =O (no offense)
It took me like 5 mins to pull of a pk thunder hit.
@Sarhan - I pm'd TrickLobster, and still no reply, how long do I have to wait again?
sarhan why couldnt you put me w/ jman ;)
my ness and his lucas are evenly matched.
Lets see... people who rape me at this game. Evil Bob, Sarhan, Raziel, and Gear.
I wonder who else.
Damn Raziel... you're tough as nails.Oh, that was you? I thought it was jman for some reason.
That was fun though.
P.S. totally didn't mean to pick Rumble Falls that first time... meant to pick Battlefield. Haha.
You played Gear? That's my brother...unless it's a different Gear. He uses Ike and Wolf mostly, right?
I played against Wolf and Ike twice each... but the rest have been against Snake.
I seem to be the king of losing matches when it looks like I've got them in the bag, don't I...
I need to get better at KOing as Sheik.
I'll be online recording vids if anyone wants to do some one on ones.
Yo sarhan did you record any of our matches from yesterday?
Just means we all have to get better and then really give him what's for!
Add my code to the list.
I warn you though... I am really horrible at this...
Thejackyl -- JCKYL -- 2363-5582-5267
How do you record matches? VCR or what.
I finally managed to beat Trick Lobster's Pokemon Trainer! Once! It was close...
This isn't bragging because he beat me about a bazillion times before that.
Im on now, if anyone wants to do a quick match or two.
Edit- Too many Marth and Toon link players -.-
I would really love someone to main R.O.B ;)
Im on now, if anyone wants to do a quick match or two.I main Pit and f'n Lucario.
Edit- Too many Marth and Toon link players -.-
I would really love someone to main R.O.B ;)
I main Pit and f'n Lucario.
And my secondary is Ganon.
Beat that.
Okay, I will.Fix'd
I main bottom tiers.
My secondary is low tiers.
Fix'd
Question about Marth for anyone...The best way to always get the full combo is to manually input the directions and not just mash B after the first side B.
I don't use him very much anymore, but when I DO, I can't figure out how to always get 4 hits with the Dancing Blade. Sometimes I get 4, and other times I only manage to get 2 and it leaves me wide open for a counter-attack.
How can you make sure you always get four hits? Is there a certain timing to it? I'm guessing it's not just hitting the buttons really quickly because I tried that...
Oh you're a jackass! :foget angry:It's true tho :( Falcon, D3, Yoshi and Mario are all contenders for the bottom of the barrel, while the others won't probably hit the middle of the mid tier from how they've been performing. Mario and Yoshi got nerfed to hell, moreso than any other characters in the game.
Well, I could care less about tiers, in fact here is a little thing known as "TR4Q" "TIERS R 4 QUEERS" I don't give a crap who is bottom or top tier, I use whatever character I like, deal with it, and happy smashing.Man, get the sand out of your vagina, I just made a simple comment about how all the characters you played were low or bottom tier. Hell, I play low tiers pretty much all the time in Melee (G&W is actually my main) as well as a bunch of other games (Hokutomaru in Garou, Cammy in Super Turbo, Ky in GGXX and so on and so forth). I just found it kinda funny really.
When players like myself like to use Yoshi, Mario etc, and there are people like you who use the higher "tiers" like Falco, and Marth and says teir, I yell TR4Q the great motto and bash you on the head with the Wiimote, the Nunchucks, the Gamecube Controller, stab you in the eye with the game cube controller battery, for more information watch Smash Kingdom Melee on Newgrounds, and you'll understand and I totally agree with this little statement.
*rolls eyes*Haha, what kind of faggot are you? READING ABOUT STUFF ON A GAME IS CHEATING.
Don't care about tiers, play the game and enjoy it, thats why its there, discussion ends here, TR4Q. :D Don't need to hear the whole story about tiers, just play the damn game and enjoy it, that's all there is to it, relying on information is just like cheating... sorta...
I don't get why people can't just play the game the way they want to and let everyone else do the same. I don't get why people are bothered by people who like to play competitively.
I know Moriason is gonna get on my back for this but you're the fucking definition of scrub.
People aren't bothered by people who play competitively, people are bothered who play competitively while simultaneously acting like he or she is better than everyone.See, thing is, I didn't even do that until he started being a fucking idiot, and even then I just said that he's a shitty player with a stupid mentality, not that everyone else is. Hell, I get trashed by quite a few here on a regular basis, and I can barely beat some of my friends who come over to play (a friend of mine constantly 4 stocks me with Olimar against both my Pit and my Lucario), so I'm not putting myself on a pedestal.
When did this "scrub" bull shit start anyway? What happened to calling people a "noob"? "Noob" sounds slightly less retarded, at the very least.1992, term from the old days of SF2 and the beginning of competitive gaming. The term is different from newbie/noob in that it points out a flaw in the way of thinking that someone has (ie: has to have "honor", doesn't "cheat", etc (ex: throwing 20 fireballs in a row in SF2 is somehow taboo to them, and so is throwing more than once and not letting the other guy throw you)). The meaning of the term changed a bit in recent years as even some non-competitive players don't whine anymore about some basic bullshit so it's more used towards people who have a total aversion to the competitive mindset (jman).
I support the TR4Q campaign...And when I do, nothing's more satisfying than showing them why tiers don't win matches.See, the thing I'm trying to say here is that they do exist and they do win matches (not all by themselves, someone new to the game won't be winning matches left and right against everyone just because he's using Wolf or Marth and his opponents are only using Mario and Yoshi, there's more subtlety to it).
here's an idea, no one at GW cares about tiers, Raziel shut up.Yeah, because I totally did that and didn't explain why the things I'm talking about aren't magical fairy land bullshit that I'm making up just to feel like I've got a bigger e-dick than everyone else. And see, the thing is I didn't even say people should play one way or another, I have no idea where you're getting that. The only person I've insulted here was jman, after provocation over a stupid comment I made that wasn't intended as an insult. I'm not telling anyone they're right or wrong about anything else than that tiers don't/shouldn't exist and that even if they don't care about them, they're still there. Hell, I didn't even say I'm better than anyone in this thread and only implied once that jman was a retard.
can't believe I get banned for pointing out GW jerks off over the game but Raziel is allowed to post shit post after shit post about how he and HIS COMPETITIVE GAMER FRIENDS are playing the game the real way because they turn everything off and pay attention to stupid fucking stats while insulting people playing the game because they like to play.
this is disgusting, you should be ashamed.
Yeah what the hell happened? I didn't see Raziel do anything wrong at first, really. That comment wasn't insulting. I use G&W, Olimar (dunno what tier he is), and like Wario (same) and stuff, and I'm not offended when people point out those guys are mostly the weird ones.There's a few, but they're still very much in debate about what will constitute to top and middle of the lists. Most agrees that Olimar, Metaknight, Wolf and Marth are probably the best in the game (some replacing Olimar for Pit or Sheik), but the only things established so far is that Jigglypuff, Mario and Yoshi constitute the bottom of the bottom due to the heavy nerfs they've gotten until something very drastic about them is discovered (probably not gonna happen in Jigglypuff's case as she lost three of the things that made her shine in Melee, which was her high KO sleep move, 0% death combos and wall of pain approach).
Guys, come on, keep it nice. We all know Yoshi's a queer anyway.
Anyway, Raziel, do you know if anyone's started formulating a tier list yet? I know if they did, it couldn't be too accurate what with the game only being out for a relatively short time, but...
The only person I've insulted here was jman, after provocation over a stupid comment I made that wasn't intended as an insult.
Man, get the sand out of your vagina,
Stop acting like a fucking 10 years old and grow up.
Haha, what kind of faggot are you?
you're the fucking definition of scrub.
your general ignorance of the information at your disposal because you play with walls around your mind that are making you be a jerkwad scrub
I just said that he's a shitty player with a stupid mentality
Well, I could care less about tiers, in fact here is a little thing known as "TR4Q" "TIERS R 4 QUEERS" I don't give a crap who is bottom or top tier, I use whatever character I like, deal with it, and happy smashing.
When players like myself like to use Yoshi, Mario etc, and there are people like you who use the higher "tiers" like Falco, and Marth and says teir, I yell TR4Q the great motto and bash you on the head with the Wiimote, the Nunchucks, the Gamecube Controller, stab you in the eye with the game cube controller battery, for more information watch Smash Kingdom Melee on Newgrounds, and you'll understand and I totally agree with this little statement.
EDIT: Sorry I had to do that, its just I really fucking hate the whole tiers thng, all it just shows that it makes me not want to play Smash anymore, when people just constantly use those repetitive characters like nuts... it gets really annoying, but the plus side is that I get to humiliate those who are too reliant on information instead of just playing the game, and use people like Marth, and all them with characters like Yoshi, Game and Watch and Mario.
It's true tho :( Falcon, D3, Yoshi and Mario are all contenders for the bottom of the barrel, while the others won't probably hit the middle of the mid tier from how they've been performing. Mario and Yoshi got nerfed to hell, moreso than any other characters in the game.
-.- The only reason why I called you a dick because you based them on tiers... and then I had to mention TR4Q... then it turned into a flame war, seriously though, lets drop it continue the tournament, and have fun.:rockout:
I still say tiers suck, it ruins fun for everyone, so just deal with it, and drop it alright? Not to add insult to injury, but from your responsive posts, you're acting more like a child, deal with it, we're in a forum, and everyone is open to opinions, and everything I said, I meant, so mneh. Happy Smashing. :D
It's kind of funny how you conveniently ignore his post right before the one you quoted where he pretty much called me a faggot for saying tiers exist and how he is putting HIMSELF on a pedestal going HMPH... TIERS... THEIR FOR FAGGOTS.. I CAN BEAT ANYONE WITHOUT TIERS EVER.......
Seriously man, I only reacted the way I did after being provoked. Hell, I'll even quote his post for you since you seem to be able to ignore things entirely!
Yeah it's pretty much HEH... TIERS ARE FOR FAGS... the whole time through while the only things I said before those comments was that he did use low tiers (and in a non-insulting way). So yeah, I suggest you read posts in order from now on man because your views are pretty fucking skewed.
Hell, here's my response to his "Oh you're a jerkwad!!" post:
WOW IM SUCH AN ASSHOLE.
Well, I could care less about tiers, in fact here is a little thing known as "TR4Q" "TIERS R 4 QUEERS" I don't give a crap who is bottom or top tier, I use whatever character I like, deal with it, and happy smashing.
When players like myself like to use Yoshi, Mario etc, and there are people like you who use the higher "tiers" like Falco, and Marth and says teir, I yell TR4Q the great motto and bash you on the head with the Wiimote, the Nunchucks, the Gamecube Controller, stab you in the eye with the game cube controller battery, for more information watch Smash Kingdom Melee on Newgrounds, and you'll understand and I totally agree with this little statement.
I'm just curious about something, has anyone had lagless games?
Even when playing against christophomicus who lives no more than 3 miles from my house we got HUGE input lag, where we'd press jump but it wouldn't happen until like a second later.
Now I know we both have fast connections; or rather they are fast enough to handle brawl so I'm curious as to why this is, and is it likely to get worse when I play people from other countries like everyone on GW?
Anyway on the other note, good games christo, shame we couldn't do what we wanted to do with much ease but... it was still good.
Hey... Sarhan and Raziel. Where are those awesome sprites you have as your avatars from?Here's the direct link: http://abysswolf.deviantart.com/art/Get-Ready-to-BRAWL-Fin-57207197
Whoever made TR4Q up is an asshole. :-)
I've gone back to playing now that I'm feeling a bit better. (Although the brutal coughing just kicked in)Yeah, that's one of those strange cases where the lag's not so bad, but the circle's still red anyway. Those other people playing were my sister and her bf, by the way.
Anyways, today I fought halibabica and YoshiJRC. Great games guys.
Btw for halibabica, the connection was great, almost zero lag.
Favorite was either Ike or Pit, funny thing is I don't even know what games they come from haha.Pit is from the Kid Icarus series, and Ike is from the Fire Emblem series. C'mon, what kind of gamer are you? :fogetshrug:
GGs Halibabica. Lots of lag tho, couldn't land anything consistently aside from some low percent combos. I couldn't even spike :(There was lag? God, I'd hate to see how tough you are without it, then!
Lag is making me hate online so much since half the shit I have to do with Falco doesn't work because of it.
I had some good matches with halibabica today too.I've been fighting you a lot lately. Can you tell me...am I improving with Snake at all? He's been awkward to get used to, and I'm trying to practice with him more. Meta Knight, too, I have a hard time finishing people with him.
There was lag? God, I'd hate to see how tough you are without it, then!There was some noticeable lag, mostly when throwing you off the stage and trying to spike you down the stage or edgeguard you. Mostly did full jumps and seemed to do a spike correctly or a back air, but Falco suddenly warped up or down or even floated in place and G&W/Yoshi teleported to safety, it was kind of awkward because I couldn't really know where you were goign exactly because of it.
I've been fighting you a lot lately. Can you tell me...am I improving with Snake at all? He's been awkward to get used to, and I'm trying to practice with him more. Meta Knight, too, I have a hard time finishing people with him.
Hey, question... I'm still not too knowledgeable when it comes to the advanced techniques of this game, but I just recently noticed something...That's the landing animation, during that time, you can't move or do anything and you are completely vulnerable to your opponent.
I noticed when I use Sheik's up-aerial really close to the ground, she'll land on her back and then spring up to her feet... which she doesn't normally do when you land on the ground. Is there a name for this technique? And is it beneficial in any way? Or just an added animation that has no effect on gameplay? I'm guessing other characters can do it too, but so far I've only noticed it with Sheik...
Top - Falco, Pit, Toon Link, Snake, Wolf, Metaknight, Marth
High - Ice Climbers, Zelda, ROB, King Dedede, Diddy Kong, Zero Samus, Game & Watch, Olimar, Fox, Lucas
Mid- Luigi, Pikachu, Kirby, Jigglypuff, Sheik, Peach, Squirtle, Wario, Lucario, Ness, Ike, Charizard
Low - Donkey Kong, Samus, Link, Bowser, Ivysaur, Yoshi
Bottom - Mario, C. Falcon, Sonic, Ganon
Taken from Shoryuken (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums)
Only thing I don't like is ROB being high and Sheik mid, I'd switch them around, but it's otherwise pretty fine.
Seems okay... Is Falco really that good? I guess I should take another look at him. Any tips?Just play me and you'll see some of the shit Falco can do since I main him (but I play pretty conservatively when lag is high, kinda scared to go and fuck up and die just because I wanted to do something). Basically, Falco is the only character in the game with an actual infinite (laserlock), he can chaingrab the entire cast, he basically beats everyone out of the air in a matter of seconds and he can get you up to 100% in less than 30 seconds. He's pretty much the no-brainer choice for a top tier character, tho he does need some technical skills and that shit doesn't work online too well.
Also does anyone know what Lucas's spike is? I guess it's his dair but I can't seem to work it right.
Ness should be high if not top. He has some of the strongest attacks in the game.
I mean PK thunder into someone (when you hit yourself) > like falcos anything, same with wolf.
I dont think Pit should be Top but thats just my opinion of course.
Anyway regardless of tiers I play worst tiers and still beat top tiers. So I dont really understand them.
My opinions:
First of all, to my understanding, tiers measure how much potential the characters have when fighting at a tournament level. As in, 1-on-1, no items. They're not saying lower tier characters can't beat higher tier characters. That you're able to win with lower-tier characters doesn't invalidate them.
Ness' PK Thunder, used offensively, is way too slow. I've been hit with it a good amount of times... but I'm still a novice. Tournament-level players will almost certainly know how to counter it, as they did in Melee. It's just way too slow of a move. It's kinda like the Falcon Punch... it's such a cool move, but using it in most cases is basically inviting your opponent to bitch-slap you. Ness has much better offensive moves than that.
My friend came over tonight to try and do some break the targets fun with me, here's what came out of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6EwE9Ldx70
Pretty sure we got the world record on that one.
esort to lag tactics (hi Manowar).
Man, the Ice Climbers are so much better. Their dair is like Toon Link's or G&W's, and their meteor is a lot more effective (I think).Well, Toon Link is good but most people don't use him effectively at all and play him as a faster Link while he's actually a shorter, projectile-enabled Marth.
I was trying out With Anyone, and I saw a lot of Ikes and Toon Links. I hope this isn't a foreshadowing of a time when only top tiers are used in With Anyone...
Ike kind of scares me to be honest. I usually don't do well against Ike players. The thing is... you can usually dodge that forward smash pretty easily... but every now and then it catches you. And when it does... it's all over. Seriously. It's just sick and wrong... that thing K.O.s at under 50%.I'm very happy that Din's fire really has great potential now, especially in 4 player free-for-all matches. Most players have no choice but to dodge it, however against a decent Ness (or even Lucas) player it's usefulness is more limited to juggling perhaps?
...speaking of ridiculously strong moves though, Zelda has them... I've been practicing the switching between Sheik and Zelda more, and though I still mostly use Sheik, it can be tempting to switch to Zelda sometimes... her aerials are ridiculous when you hit with the sweet-spot! And Din's Fire is a cool projectile.
Anyone else realize Olimar's down-B gives him super armor? Like Ike's up-B? And unlike Ike, he can do it very repetitively?Awesome, and here I thought it was a worthless move. Olimar just got a whole lot better (which is crazy considering how good he already is without this effect).
Yeah, it's awesome. I gave a level 9 Mario a final smash, and I repeatedly down-B'd throughout the blast. I didn't move an inch and only gained 10%. I also lived until like 300% because Mario's smashes wouldn't move me. Awesome stuff.
Yeah... when I first got the game, I thought Ike sucked at recovering, but now I realize his recovery is actually annoyingly good when used right.
Once he starts up Aether, you pretty much can't edgeguard him... he's got infinite knockback resistance during the animation, and if you even get near him while it's happening, you'll probably just get nailed by his sword.
His horizontal recovery is easier to counter though... so I guess it's better to knock him up and off. And if you can manage to knock him far away from the stage AND below it, he's pretty much screwed. But this, I've found, is difficult.
I'll play, abkewl5. Just add me(my information is in the first post), and create a room then I'll join.
Try his back air, it's more powerful. Though, it's not a spike, so...
Yeah, fun times. I was feeling kinda out of it, so I apologize for my abysmal performance.Hey no need to apologize man. We all have our off days. :^)
I've been meaning to ask, am I the only metaknight player among the GW regulars?I don't see many people using him much, it also seems that I'm the only Wario player around here. (Maybe I'm wrong I dunno)
I've been meaning to ask, am I the only metaknight player among the GW regulars?
The REAL question is... is there any Yoshi players among the GW regulars. (I use em', but I'm wonderin' if anyone else does.)
The REAL question is... is there any Yoshi players among the GW regulars. (I use em', but I'm wonderin' if anyone else does.)
... I need to change my username.
I've been meaning to ask, am I the only metaknight player among the GW regulars?
I mostly use it for smash attacks, but only when I want them to come out quick. I usually do smashes the regular way, but sometimes that just ain't fast enough.
I used to think C-sticking was cheap, but now it's available in all modes of play instead of just multiplayer. I acknowledge its worth, and I would not blame someone for using it anymore.
Oh, and good games, Nightblade! Your Olimar and Snake are really hard to handle. I kinda caught onto your playstyle, though, so you might want to vary up your strategies a little bit.
What do you guys think about C-sticks? I was talking with my friend about it, and he thinks it shouldn't be used at all. I don't personally use it, but I don't have a problem with people who do. He thinks it is cheating, unless you are really bad or new to playing. I have heard this argument before, what do you guys think?
Hey no need to apologize man. We all have our off days. :^)I don't see many people using him much, it also seems that I'm the only Wario player around here. (Maybe I'm wrong I dunno)<--- Ahem... Although I haven't been playing Smash lately due to final exams and all.
Anyone who thinks anything is cheap in video games seriously has to reconsider the way they play and stop being fucking children about it.Of course there exists cheap tactics, the matter just is that who you play with. In competitive scene pretty much anything goes, while if you play with your friends to have a blast I doubt that the others enjoy if you use so called cheap tactics for the sole purpose of winning. And I don't think C-stick should be considered a cheap tactic as it's available to everyone and if you play without the C-stick regularly you can smash just as fast as with the C-stick.
Ganon's new side+B is a newb killer.I don't use it, but it looks fun to do.
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To this point, I’ve received a great number of screenshots that focus on peeking at the undergarments of certain Brawl combatants. So let me just say it again—shots like these will never be posted to the Dojo or sent out to users via the Smash Service.
Hey guys, how do you do the stage builder stuff online (ie, the STAGE OF THE DAY/DOWNLOAD SOMEONE ELSE'S STAGE)?
To this point, I’ve received a great number of screenshots that focus on peeking at the undergarments of certain Brawl combatants. So let me just say it again—shots like these will never be posted to the Dojo or sent out to users via the Smash Service.
Hey guys, how do you do the stage builder stuff online (ie, the STAGE OF THE DAY/DOWNLOAD SOMEONE ELSE'S STAGE)?It happens once a day automatically when you log onto the WFC. You get the stage, screenshot, and replay of the day. They all disappear automatically, too.
Am I the only one who thinks this game's music takes itself far too seriously? I honestly miss the old N64 music...
Sorry sarhan, the rounds after I didnt realize it was me who had items on. Ive turned them off at this point.
Her f-air/u-air both got huge buffs.
On the topic of n64 music, there is one song that should've been remixed and put into this game:
the n64 master hand tune
that would've rocked intensively
Oh man, G&W's b-up is so godly.
It seems to have no startup lag at all and the hover buff it gives afterward is awesome.
Marth's final smash is completely useless to him.
Those were some awesome matches last night Sarhan. For the most part... I did make some weird mistakes.
But anyhow... you're really good with everyone! The Sheik matches were great.
Like I said, I'll sign up only if it uses standard tournament rules (that is, no items, friendly fire enabled and only the legal and counterpick stages allowed).
Also, I strongly suggest you don't allow two people to play on the same console as it creates too many balances issues towards them.
It would be standard tournament rules, and I personally dont think it matters whether its an online or offline partner.
Edit- so should i make a tournament 2 - topic in the dojo? or wait a bit, or just not do it?
So is this going to be an anything goes partnership tourny, as in I can be partners with a GW member or one of my friends?
It seems kinda sloppy that way, but I suppose it'll be much easier to find a partner of my own.
I haven't played team battles with wii friends before, do I need to be friends with your partner too, if it were someone outside of GW?
edit: someone should do a character specific tournament too
So is this going to be an anything goes partnership tourny, as in I can be partners with a GW member or one of my friends?
It seems kinda sloppy that way, but I suppose it'll be much easier to find a partner of my own.
I haven't played team battles with wii friends before, do I need to be friends with your partner too, if it were someone outside of GW?
edit: someone should do a character specific tournament too