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Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: UPRC on March 11, 2008, 02:03:50 pm: I think we here at GW focus on the positive side of gaming too much. We never really stop and think back to the time when we broke our controller when we lost an hour long race by only .5 seconds, or when we all threatened to kill our best friends because they kept beating us in our favourite fighting game.

So let's do that now.

What are your worst gaming experiences? They can be anything from just really, really shitty games that you played which were no fun at all, or times when you just went berserk playing a game.

I think my worst moment combined both of the things I just mentioned. It was a really, really bad game and it also pissed me off to no end. That game was Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth. The game which nobody liked. The game which everyone gave a bad review except RPG Advocate (for some odd reason).

Why the game sucked: I forget what the specific genre is called (strategy RPG?), but it was an FFT rip-off.. Which failed miserably. The game appeared to have maybe four or five music tracks in total, terrible ingame tutorials, and no real storyline. Add to this the fact that the game was very cruel and unforgiving. If one of your characters died on a map, that was it.. They were dead. Forever. You could not bring them back. You had to go recruit a new character for some really stupid price. They would also start at LV1 with awful equipment. Then you had to run them through the "Tower of Trials" over and over again just to get them up to a decent level. Also the overworld map was boring as hell.
But on the plus side, the game had some pretty decent art.

Why the game angered me: My favourite characters kept dying. It felt almost impossible not to be able to beat a map without having at least one (or two) characters die, at least. So... By the fifth or sixth map I was lucky to even have any of my original team left! The last map I played I tried continuously to beat. I would level up and buy new equipment, but that did no good since the enemies scaled with you. One day on that horrid map that I could not beat I just lost it. I smacked the Playstation's open button, ripped the game out, stabbed it with scissors and then lit it on fire. Game over.

Your turn!
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rowain on March 11, 2008, 02:45:49 pm: Yeah Hoshigami sucked hard. When it took me about two hours to go through the FIRST FUCKING MAP, I decided it wasn't worth my time. The SEALS system was annoying and cumbersome and it just wasn't any fun at all.

Since you did that game tho, I'll go with a different one.

You'll probably all disagree with me but

XENOSAGA EPISODE 2

Why it sucked: Everyone knows the Xenosaga's story is overly complicated philosophical mumbo-jumbo with unhealthy doses of pseudo-intellectualism thrown in, but man the bosses pissed me off too. Even some of the later enemies. The entire battle system is based around the Break system, which involves executing specific attacks in a specific order with no break inbetween them. Later bosses REQUIRE you to go through a stupid annoying longwinded process of buffing your party's attacks with whatever element the boss is weak against, building up your Boost meter, and then breaking the enemy, followed by unleashing as many attacks as possible before they recover. Maybe it sounds STRATEGIC, or SATISFYINGLY CHALLENGING, but it really amounted to frustration.

Why it pissed me off: I got through the bulk of the game, and got down to the last area which, in typical RPG fashion, involves multiple boss fights with little time between them. Then I hit Cathedral or something (I forgot the name). I spent about 20 minutes setting up my attack, carefully buffing, building boost, and discovering the boss break order. Then I unleashed hell... and accidentally did a LOW attack when I meant to do a HIGH (LOW/HIGH/SPECIAL is the three types of attacks I think, and each is mapped to a button on the PS2 controller). Blamo. All my time wasted as my character used the wrong attack (there's no confirmation or anything) and my entire delicate house of cards came tumbling down and I was promptly wiped out. The bosses have a tendency of using cheap ass attacks when their health gets lower, or recovering ridiculous amounts of HP, forcing you to defeat them in one turn. I said "fuck this", took the game out of my PS2, and never touched it again.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 11, 2008, 04:11:44 pm: Quote from: UPRC on March 11, 2008, 02:03:50 pm
I think we here at GW focus on the positive side of gaming too much.

Actually I think this is the opposite of the truth because it seems to me that we like to bitch a lot and if you are willing to admit that you like something you'll probably be criticized for being weak-willed and not cynical enough. But maybe that's just internet culture and I'm that way too so.

My worst gaming experience is with Mortal Kombat Trilogy on PS1 and isn't related to the game itself but the events surrounding it.

MY BAD EXPERIENCE WITH MORTAL KOMBAT TRILOGY:

What happened: My older brother (who was at the time several hundred pounds larger than me) and I played through the single-player on the hardest difficulty which is tough because the AI cheats in Mortal Kombat. We switched off because it was so frustrating and spent hours doing it. Eventually we got to the end of the game and we were so proud. But then came the question of which bonus to pick; if you remember MK Trilogy, after beating it you choose which reward you get. The rewards were things like game features, secret characters, or watching the ending scene for that character. You only get to choose one. My brother and I disagreed on which one to pick; I wanted some feature, and he wanted to see the ending scene. In a clever move, he punched my arm, giving me a charlie horse, snatched the pad, and chose what he wanted. Furiously, I hopped up and shut off the Playstation. I defiantly boasted WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT NOW HUH FATTY??? He went red with rage, charged me, and beat the living shit out of me for like half on hour.

Why it sucked: Well I can't put my finger on it but I'm pretty sure it sucked because I got my ass kicked.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: DS on March 11, 2008, 04:23:52 pm: WORST GAMING EXPERIENCE:

losing sctfl (soldat capture the flag league, the largest and most active soldat league there is) final twice in a row....
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: dada on March 11, 2008, 04:27:46 pm: I used to play Mortal Kombat Trilogy for a little while, but every single time I used Ice Puddle I asked myself out loud why I wasn't playing Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. It's just such a painstakingly bad game.

I can't even remember the worst gaming experience I ever had, to be honest. Maybe it's Arkanoid: Doh It Again because it became pretty hard and incredibly frustrating by the end but I still wanted to keep on playing to see the end.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: thejackyl on March 11, 2008, 04:49:46 pm: action 52... $200 for 52 games... about 20 worked, and none were any good.

serious review though:

Friday the Thirteenth (NES)
An action-adventure/horror game for the NES. It didn't follow the movie(s) as far as I know, but I've heard it's a hybrid of the first 3, but set in Crystal Lake (wasn't just the first one there?) There were six counselors 3 guys, 3 girls. There was 1 fast person, 1 slow as hell person, and an average speed person of each gender, and the only thing that differed was jumping height. 2 of the counselors were useful (Mark and Chrissy, iirc), wheres the rest were wastes of time. Oh, you also had to stop Jason from killing the 20 kids at the campgrounds, who are located in the isolated houses on the lake. There's also a cave and a forest. The forest gives you vitamins (health items, used when your current guy dies, and revives him with about 10 ticks of health), faster than anywhere else, and the cave you fight Jason's Mother for: Day 1 - Machete or Axe (4th and 3th best weapons respectively), Day 2 - Sweater (halves damage done by Jason), Day 3 - Pitchfork(best weapon)
Now enough of the overview

Why the game sucked
When you first start, the only idea you have on what to do is the intro on lighting fireplaces(which nets you the second best weapon on the game), but there are 30 odd houses, and they are confusing to navigate, and I've spent an hour stuck in one once. The enemies consist of zombies, wolves, crows, and Jason. Wolves and Crows I can see (It's a campground after all), but why zombies? Those weren't in the movie.
Also, Jason looks weird, his suit is purple, and his mask is blue. What the hell? He's also really fucking hard to kill. You're standard weapon, the rock takes three hits to remove one tick of his lifebar, and he has 30. Though he does run off after 10 or so hits. There are also 3 ways to encounter this murderous bastard. 1: Trail, the easiest to win. Hit him ~10 times, he'll run away. 2: Cabin fights, 2nd hardest to win, again hit him about 10 times. 3: Swimming encounter - unavoidable, he'll swim through the water as you check on the kids, and cause about 5 ticks of damage (you have 30 also)
To beat the game you have to kill him, not once, not twice, but 3 times. All without him killing all the kids, or counselors. If he kills all of either group it's game over.
What pissed me off?!
Jason is fucking impossible to kill, I mean, yeah he's a Psychotic killer, but this is a game, and you are required to kill him. Three times. Plus he gets faster, and does more damage every "day" (days pass when you kill him), plus the fact that you can't get your good stuff (sweater, pitchfork) without sacrificing some children. And after I did manage to beat it(cheat), the ending screen was not worth the trouble. I'll find a link to it later.
I did mention Jason is fucking hard. He comes in 3 varieties(or wields 3 different weapons), when indoors. 1st - He'll punch you to death. Every punch does about 6 ticks of damage. 2nd(after chasing him off once) - He'll use his trademark machete... 9 ticks for each hit, iirc. 3rd(after chasing him off again) - Axe, 3 or 4 hits and your dead.
I have yet to kill Jason even once without cheating. Mainly cause my 2 fast people die, and the other 4 are incredibly slow (compare the Scout and Heavies speed from TF2, now have the heavy spin his barrel, and compare speeds... yeah)

That's probably my worst gaming experience. Mainly cause I was about 6 or so when I first played it, and back than it was scary.

Ending (http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/nes/a/friday.htm)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ragnar on March 11, 2008, 05:05:03 pm: Game: Wario's Woods

Why the game sucked: Ok I didn't even play this game but I saw it in Nintendo Power when I was young and it was like the only NES game being covered and I was like OH GOD THE NINTENDO IS DYING

same goes for New Frogger for SNES

I should've been excited about the SNES but for some reason I wasn't - I forget if I really liked the NES in particular or maybe my parents held out on getting an SNES for a while so it was just like NO NEW GAMES EVER - I do remember we rented a Genesis and rented/borrowed a Turbografx-16 so maybe they were hesitant about it - how much was the SNES initially anyway?

So yeah come to think of it is must've been awkward for anyone's parents back then because even though there was Sega Master System it was basically like there's this one box you need and it's the Nintendo - so it must've felt just like a given like VCR PLAYS MOVIES NINTENDO PLAYS GAMES and then these 3 boxes come out and parents everywhere were probably like oh shit we're going to have to do a second mortgage

Edit: Also even though SNES games were classic I think Nintendo Power started sucking as early as the SNES - I vaguely remember the very early NPs felt almost like a comic book or something (well they also had all the different comics like NESTER but I also think everything sort of segued into each other like it was one long gaming comic strip) or maybe it teed me off that the early NPs had less of a format like the article on Final Fantasy might've been 20 pages long and had this MEDIEVAL SCROLL motif to it so it felt less like an article in a magazine and more like EPIC SAGA OF THE GAME

Edit: I had coffee btw
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 11, 2008, 05:59:14 pm: Quote from: Ragnar on March 11, 2008, 05:05:03 pm
Edit: Also even though SNES games were classic I think Nintendo Power started sucking as early as the SNES - I vaguely remember the very early NPs felt almost like a comic book or something (well they also had all the different comics like NESTER but I also think everything sort of segued into each other like it was one long gaming comic strip) or maybe it teed me off that the early NPs had less of a format like the article on Final Fantasy might've been 20 pages long and had this MEDIEVAL SCROLL motif to it so it felt less like an article in a magazine and more like EPIC SAGA OF THE GAME

Yeah, I remember that and I sort of miss reading Nintendo Power back when it was so cool. It certainly wasn't game journalism and was more like some sort of clever marketing strategy but reading the magazine was almost as fun as playing the games it was about.

Quote from: Ragnar on March 11, 2008, 05:05:03 pm
Edit: I had coffee btw

Awesome man.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Verne on March 11, 2008, 06:04:55 pm: Quote from: DragonSlayer on March 11, 2008, 04:23:52 pm
WORST GAMING EXPERIENCE:

losing sctfl (soldat capture the flag league, the largest and most active soldat league there is) final twice in a row....

why is that so bad thing? you're keeping up the finnish sports traditions 8-)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: dethmetal on March 11, 2008, 06:16:21 pm: When it first came out, I rented Superman 64. Worst decision of my life and the worst 30 minute I ever spent on a game. And I was young back then, so any game was good to me. But not that one.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Dale Gobbler on March 11, 2008, 06:37:42 pm: I bought Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage for the N64 like 2 years ago and it was total crap. Despite the god-awful graphics and the general "WTF am I suppose to do?!" feeling I got the whole time I played, I did play it for a couple of hours just because I like RPG's. The graphics just plain sucked even with the high-def expansion pack thing that you could buy for the N64, and yes it had an option in-game to use the high-def expansion. Everything blended together and was uber pixelated. The best way to describe the "lost" feeling I had is to say that the world was pretty big, gave vague indication of what to do, took a long-ass time to get to places where you think you're suppose to go, and didn't have any side-quests from what I played (and I looked a lot of places). So you basically had to scour the world looking for one little place that would progress the game for you at all.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ohlichris on March 11, 2008, 06:44:55 pm: Right now I can only think of two times:

About two years ago I really wanted to play both Xenogears and Chrono Cross but I live in Europe so I couldn't get them. A friend of mine lent me his chipped PS1 for the summer and I managed to download CC's discs 1 and 2 and Xenogears's disc 2 (I already had disc 1). I kept playing the game and I finally reached the battle versus Opiomorph. It was a really frustrating battle and I was glad once I won it. Unfortunately the game froze on an fmv that came right after the battle. I kept battling Opiomorph again and again, but the fmv kep freezing every time. Actually all the fmv cutscenes in the game lagged.
The fmv cutscenes in Chrono Cross disc 2 seemed to do the same and it would take forever just for the game to continue. I always prayed I wouldn't get an fmv.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: YoshiJRC on March 11, 2008, 07:07:49 pm: Lunar: Dragon Song.

Why?

Why?!

WHY!!!!??
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: The Dude on March 11, 2008, 07:55:09 pm: Why the game sucked:
Gran Stream Saga (PSX)
I had played the demo; and it was awesome! However, the actual game was as barren as the graphics.
Why the game angered me:
The demo showcased the first real boss, and a peek at the dungeons. It all seemed really cool at the time... however when you step into the real game you're met face-to-face with this boring, pain in the ass game with about as much imagination as a rock. Which is consequencially what the graphics looked like. Being PSX I won't score it too hard on graphics... but this is out when FF7, MGS, and others are kicking... At least they could have -tried-. The battle system was cool and all, but it got really frustrating later on because it was always a struggle. Even random encounters could kick your ass if you didn't put some effort into it. Nothing wrong with challenge, mind you, just killing a random skeleton in the hall shouldn't be this epic battle, methinks. All in all, the game pissed me off because I was expecting so much after that awesome demo, and was let down.
Like being offered Final Fantasy, and being given RPG Maker RTP Alex's Huge Cool Adventure.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: jamie on March 11, 2008, 08:26:28 pm: i felt like such an idiot for buying eternal sonata late last year.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: UPRC on March 11, 2008, 08:43:39 pm: Quote from: Dudesoft on March 11, 2008, 07:55:09 pm
Why the game sucked:
Gran Stream Saga (PSX)
I had played the demo; and it was awesome! However, the actual game was as barren as the graphics.
Why the game angered me:
The demo showcased the first real boss, and a peek at the dungeons. It all seemed really cool at the time... however when you step into the real game you're met face-to-face with this boring, pain in the ass game with about as much imagination as a rock. Which is consequencially what the graphics looked like. Being PSX I won't score it too hard on graphics... but this is out when FF7, MGS, and others are kicking... At least they could have -tried-. The battle system was cool and all, but it got really frustrating later on because it was always a struggle. Even random encounters could kick your ass if you didn't put some effort into it. Nothing wrong with challenge, mind you, just killing a random skeleton in the hall shouldn't be this epic battle, methinks. All in all, the game pissed me off because I was expecting so much after that awesome demo, and was let down.
Like being offered Final Fantasy, and being given RPG Maker RTP Alex's Huge Cool Adventure.

Man, I often wondered about that game after I played the demo. Guess I'll scratch it off my "old games to check up on" list.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: HL on March 11, 2008, 09:00:14 pm: Quote from: Dudesoft on March 11, 2008, 07:55:09 pm
Why the game sucked:
Gran Stream Saga (PSX)
I had played the demo; and it was awesome! However, the actual game was as barren as the graphics.
Why the game angered me:
The demo showcased the first real boss, and a peek at the dungeons. It all seemed really cool at the time... however when you step into the real game you're met face-to-face with this boring, pain in the ass game with about as much imagination as a rock. Which is consequencially what the graphics looked like. Being PSX I won't score it too hard on graphics... but this is out when FF7, MGS, and others are kicking... At least they could have -tried-. The battle system was cool and all, but it got really frustrating later on because it was always a struggle. Even random encounters could kick your ass if you didn't put some effort into it. Nothing wrong with challenge, mind you, just killing a random skeleton in the hall shouldn't be this epic battle, methinks. All in all, the game pissed me off because I was expecting so much after that awesome demo, and was let down.
Like being offered Final Fantasy, and being given RPG Maker RTP Alex's Huge Cool Adventure.

Worst game in the Soul Blazer series by far.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 11, 2008, 09:44:11 pm: Alundra 2

Why the game sucked
It was just a terrible game overall. The graphics were horrible, primitive polygons with ugly washed out colors; Bubsy 3D would be comparable. The sound and music were bland, and the voice acting was atrocious. The gameplay itself was simple, mindless, and boring. It's like a poor man's Zelda with Down's Syndrome. The story is unremarkable. The entire game isn't even really worth the paragraph I'm giving it.

Why the game angered me
Because the first Alundra was one of the most awesome games I've ever played. Considering that, I thought that the 2nd one would give me a similar experience. Upon learning it was the exact opposite, I wanted to break my disk into pieces.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Lord Amesius on March 11, 2008, 10:37:23 pm: Two words.

Unlimited Saga...... I took it out of the case, put it in my PS2, "played" it for five minutes, took it out of my PS2, put it back in it's case, and threw it in the trash.

You're probably wondering why I didn't just return it right? If I returned it it would go back on sale and some poor unsuspecting gamer would have endure it's unbelievably shitty gameplay.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: YoshiJRC on March 12, 2008, 02:47:48 am: I'll elaborate a little.

Lunar: Dragon Song is pretty much what got me to buy a DS.

As you can see, I'm a huge Lunar fan. They're my favorite games... and when I heard that a new game in the series was coming out, I was excited and hopeful even though Working Designs had nothing to do with it.

And then it comes out and it has basically nothing to do with the previous games and fucks everything up that was good and just sucks in every way. Yeah. I ended up selling it along with Animal Crossing DS (which I also didn't like though I can see the appeal) to buy Disgaea 2.

I'm still bitter to this day though, that the series had to end on such a bad note and that Working Designs has gone belly-up.

I guess at least it got me to buy a DS.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: headphonics on March 12, 2008, 03:14:46 am: i can't believe nobody has said suikoden 4 yet
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rowain on March 12, 2008, 03:26:51 am: Quote from: bazookatooth on March 12, 2008, 03:14:46 am
i can't believe nobody has said suikoden 4 yet

Well, I COULD'VE said Suikoden 4 except S4 didn't really piss me off like Xenosaga did. S4 was just a purely awful game in every way shape and form, it didn't have any specific that ticked me off. Like, I can't point to a certain part of the game that said THATS IT IM NEVER TOUCHING YOU AGAIN.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rone Rivendale on March 12, 2008, 03:31:38 am: Kyle Petty's No Fear Racing.

Worst racing game ever.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: headphonics on March 12, 2008, 03:32:08 am: i would say the part where you are banished from town because some kid said he saw you kill a guy but had no body to prove it because it evaporated was pretty intolerable, and probably the point at which i said FUCK THIS SHIT.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on March 12, 2008, 04:28:14 am: These stories tend to drag on... so I will keep it short. We wanted a raid boss. So did everyone else. We where willing to wait at the "door" until it spawned (it has a 24 hour window of spawning on it's spawn time, meaning it could take 1 minute to 24 hours for him to actually spawn). We gathered our guys an our in advance and got there before the window opens up. 1 hour goes by... nothing. 2 hours... nothing. 3... 4.... nothing. And then our enemies show up. 11 hours of fighting our enemies later he spawns. Everyone makes a mad dash to the teleportation npc to get into the room before someone wakes the boss and everyone else is locked out. Some of our guys get in... some of theres get in (you have only a few seconds to make it in before everyone else gets locked out). We fight for 4 more hours. We have a distinct advantage over our enemies because we are hot shit and we had bishops (healers) parked under the raid bosses room casting mass ressurection (as it was still in range) on us while our enemies slowly died off/ bsoed (instant escape to the nearest town). There isn't enough of a force on either side inside to kill him... so we had to stop fighting him or else we'd die one by one. We all stopped hitting him and started moving our summoners to the room (20 minute run) so we can resummon our raid party (because after 30 minutes of inactivity, the boss resets and everyone is kicked out of the tower). We resummon, regroup, and try again. Before the spawn even resets a large group of enemies already made it back up and are fighting those who are still outside. Shitfuck. The boss resets and there is a new mad dash to make it inside before everyone else is locked out. Luckily for us we exploit the game well and a few of us knew when to log out. You see... once you log out of a raid area you have five minutes to log back in unless your character is moved to the nearest town. Well... we had someone ready to hit the switch instantly by the time he reset (aka even less time to get in) and those who where outside where all waiting in vent for the signal to click the button to get in. GO GO GO GO GO and less than half make it in... meanwhile a few enemies make it in. It was less than before.. so it was easy picking them off... but we didn't have enough people to kill the boss. Fuck. A lot of time consuming things go on and we eventually kill him 6 hours later (It takes an hour of actual fighting to get him). Was it worth it? Fuck yeah.... and that was the sickest thing about it. To grow accustomed to this type of game... this is why I had to force myself to quit. I have been mmorpg free for about 6 months now. Coming to the realization as to how horrible a game you're playing actually is... man.. that has to be the worst experiance.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ragnar on March 12, 2008, 04:48:56 am: If that's an account of an actual gaming experience that's amazingly detailed and you must be one of those people who can remember what they had for breakfast every day since they were born or something

Edit: Even if it's made up it reminded me of like the Tom Clancy of gaming
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 12, 2008, 04:55:17 am: That sounds like a Narcotics Anonymous confession.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on March 12, 2008, 06:36:33 am: Quote from: Ragnar on March 12, 2008, 04:48:56 am
If that's an account of an actual gaming experience that's amazingly detailed and you must be one of those people who can remember what they had for breakfast every day since they were born or something

Edit: Even if it's made up it reminded me of like the Tom Clancy of gaming

Actually very similar types of things happen all the time. This is just how the game is played. This just happened to be one of the longest.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 06:59:05 am: For me it was a tie:

Legend of Legaia II and.....fuck, I lied.

LEGEND OF FUCKING LEGAIA II WINS BY A LONG SHOT

The story, characters, maps and even (fucking puke-tastic) voice acting made me want to end myself. And whats the cream of the crap is the OST, composed by legendary Yasonori Mitsuda (Crono games, Xeno games) and Hitoshi Sakimoto (FF12) was so bad I had the game muted 80% of the time, aside a couple good tracks. Plus the final dungeon ripped RIGHT off of Final Fantasy VII and the last battle has cheezier dialog than an ending to a Pokemon three-parter.

Bottom line, Its not worth the 4 bucks I baught it for. :|

How could a great series start out so great and get so horrendous?

Edit:
Quote from: bazookatooth on March 12, 2008, 03:14:46 am
i can't believe nobody has said suikoden 4 yet
Thats what it "tied" with. Suikoden IV. No words can describe it other than "bad" and "really bad"
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Aten on March 12, 2008, 07:02:43 am: Hey! Legaia 2 was awesome :<
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 07:05:34 am: Quote from: Aten on March 12, 2008, 07:02:43 am
Hey! Legaia 2 was awesome :<

I really tried to like it, I really did, just like XenoSaga 2, but its just that bad. I even let go of some of the terrible cliches cause I play games for fun, but there is just too much to bear in this game. Legaia I was the shit, though.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 12, 2008, 07:24:33 am: Well, it's mainly because I spent money on it. I don't have too much money as it is, and nowadays spending money on videogames is a gambit as it is. If I dropped 50 or so bucks on a game that I hate, but I can't get my money back for whatever reason, the least I can do is finish it, so I don't feel as if I completely wasted my money.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: SupremeWarrior on March 12, 2008, 10:52:41 am: FUCKING Dragonball Z Ultimate Battle 22 I bought this piece of fucking shit for £30 and played it for like 5 minutes since I'm a DBZ fan, the first time I saw it I thought oh cool what is this? I was thinking of whether to get this or Tekken 3 I even posted a topic about this a long time ago. Dragonball Ultimate Battle 22 is a fighting game using 3d backgrounds and 2d character sprites.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Ultimate_Battle_22

Why it sucked
It was fucking slow as fuck much like the default speed in Rm2k/3 it was fucking slow I didn't even have enough time to input the moves and they were shitty as well too many button combinations just to do one move which the enemy would probably counter you anyway. The graphics were shit as fuck it had a kind of pixellated 3d-ish background and pixellated 2d characters FUCKING CRAP PIECE OF SHIT I TELL YOU.

Why it angered me
The graphics were shit as fuck, the game was too fucking slow and I don't think there was a way to change that in the options but I don't fucking care who the fuck cares. To do special moves was like press a million buttons and you didn't even do that cause the game was too slow by the time you pressed the first punch button the character would take 5 seconds to punch when your doing the rest of the combination to do the move.

Luckily I returned it to the game store and told them it didn't work, I got Tekken 3 instead which I am very happy with but lately I haven't been able to FUCKING play it since it won't load on my fucking PS2.

WORST FUCKING FIGHTING GAME EVER
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: UPRC on March 12, 2008, 11:00:29 am: Uh... Yeah. I think you could've gotten your point across without cursing every few words, but okay.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Strangeluv on March 12, 2008, 12:28:00 pm: Q..Quest 64, anyone?
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Jester on March 12, 2008, 12:56:05 pm: yeah, mine is either alundra 2 or grandia 2. i enjoyed both originals a lot, and both sequels were really terrible awful terrible horrible games.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 12, 2008, 02:44:49 pm: Quote from: Chainer on March 12, 2008, 04:28:14 am
EPIC

So this is an awesome story but what game is that? I remember you being a huge Lineage II fan so is that the game? I've heard some pretty wild things about Lineage II players. The playerbase sounds like it is disarmingly hardcore.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 04:27:39 pm: Quote from: Jester on March 12, 2008, 12:56:05 pm
yeah, mine is either alundra 2 or grandia 2. i enjoyed both originals a lot, and both sequels were really terrible awful terrible horrible games.

Are you serious? Grandia II's story was pretty bad and I agree it was nothing close to the original, but the game was terrible by no means.

Alumdra 2 was shit tho.

Quote from: UPRC on March 12, 2008, 11:00:29 am
Uh... Yeah. I think you could've gotten your point across without cursing every few words, but okay.

Im surprised he didnt actually use more. UB22 is as terrible as ATARI ET and Superman 64's tournament-fighting love child.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Jester on March 12, 2008, 04:30:09 pm: grandia 2 was awful

1 was japanimé to the max but 2 took it to whole new levels

i kept expecting the main guy to start piloting a mecha

also it was bland, clunky and the graphics were really bad for a ps2 game

i also hated the characters and cannot even remember the environments
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 04:31:33 pm: Quote from: Jester on March 12, 2008, 04:30:09 pm
grandia 2 was awful

1 was japanimé to the max but 2 took it to whole new levels

i kept expecting the main guy to start piloting a mecha

also it was bland, clunky and the graphics were really bad for a ps2 game

i also hated the characters and cannot even remember the environments

Ohhh

Ok I see what you mean and if you look at it like that yeah it was pretty bad

Edit: Wasnt it the port of the Dreamcast game?
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: UPRC on March 12, 2008, 04:33:18 pm: I thought of another.

The Devil Within mode in Tekken 5. Words I use to describe it are:

Boring, confusing, frustrating, lacking, pointless, tedious, and tiring. It was just a waste of disc space and a really shitty way for us to unlock things. I played it for maybe 20 minutes before saying "Forget this crap!" I then promptly unlocked all characters through nothing but endless fighting.

Another Tekken 5 moment.. Jinpachi Mishima. Very cheap boss with some very cheap attacks. I hated fighting that guy with characters I wasn't good at using.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 04:41:19 pm: Well if we're on the topic of fighting games, let me just throw out Ehrgeiz (or however the fuck you spell it). Im not even talking about the Battle mode, I mean that shitty ABS-RPG mode. I got the guy all the best weapons and got to the bottom of the dungeon to the last boss, and things started to look a little fun (it was a pain in the ass getting there) but then after I kill the last bad guy the guy blows up, my items fly everywhere and he screams some japanese word in pain. So you have to take the girl down and finish the game (who I had at LV1 by the way) and when I BARELY MANAGED to make it down there my ending was along the lines of:
"You have saved blah blah
the adventure is blah blah"
*cue credits*

Seriously, no.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 12, 2008, 04:44:08 pm: Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on March 12, 2008, 04:31:33 pm
Ohhh

Ok I see what you mean and if you look at it like that yeah it was pretty bad

Edit: Wasnt it the port of the Dreamcast game?

Yeah it was several years old by the time it came out on PS2. I don't know *how* old, but I remember that it wasn't new when I played it on Dreamcast and that when I saw it launched on PS2 that I thought "wow that game is old." When it originally released on Dreamcast it was actually one of the best-looking RPGs out there and was definitely the most colorful (the Dreamcast could handle a lot more textures than the competing PSX after all). I thought it was a pretty good game when I played it but who knows how it holds up today. Back then I could play just about any jRPG and think it was amazing.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 12, 2008, 04:50:19 pm: Quote from: maladroithim on March 12, 2008, 04:44:08 pm
Yeah it was several years old by the time it came out on PS2. I don't know *how* old, but I remember that it wasn't new when I played it on Dreamcast and that when I saw it launched on PS2 that I thought "wow that game is old." When it originally released on Dreamcast it was actually one of the best-looking RPGs out there and was definitely the most colorful (the Dreamcast could handle a lot more textures than the competing PSX after all). I thought it was a pretty good game when I played it but who knows how it holds up today. Back then I could play just about any jRPG and think it was amazing.
Well in terms of story-telling and game play it loses. The game is much shorter if I am not mistaken too. The voice-acting was more enjoyable too cause it didnt have that awkward pause like in the first. G2 is also way too easy-I felt like a child playing it, but no matter.

I thought the first Grandia rivaled FF7 but many disagree with me.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on March 12, 2008, 05:28:53 pm: barkley shut up and jam gaiden.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on March 12, 2008, 05:48:21 pm: Quote from: maladroithim on March 12, 2008, 02:44:49 pm
So this is an awesome story but what game is that? I remember you being a huge Lineage II fan so is that the game? I've heard some pretty wild things about Lineage II players. The playerbase sounds like it is disarmingly hardcore.

This could apply to any mmo where there is actual competition for things... but yeah, this is Lineage ][.

And yeah.... L][ players tend to be hardcore.

I (Click to reveal)
[/ players]DVP.... a once celebrated PVPer on the Teon server turned killer....
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 12, 2008, 06:31:35 pm: Quote from: Chainer on March 12, 2008, 05:48:21 pm
This could apply to any mmo where there is actual competition for things... but yeah, this is Lineage ][.

And yeah.... L][ players tend to be hardcore.

I am not kidding (Click to reveal)
DVP.... a once celebrated PVPer on the Teon server turned killer....

Yeah I remember the thread about that incident on this forum and I crapped my pants. I mean it makes sense to beat someone up if they rip you off but beating somebody to death over a virtual sword worth a couple hundred dollars is insane.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: SupremeWarrior on March 12, 2008, 06:36:18 pm: Wow that's crazy, I thought that game looked and played quite well actually. Damn ACTUALLY meeting up just to beat each other up over a game is overly stupid, these guys are grown adults too.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Kaworu on March 12, 2008, 11:07:35 pm: I think L][ is ][/ is][. It wasn't even fun though, it was addictive but there was no entertainment value in killing different coloured furries for like 5 hours before moving onto different coloured ants or zombies or dragons... or monsters the same colour but with different names.

L][ has some totally bitching concepts and designs behind it (I haven't played a mmorpg where the monsters look so badass) but it's such a broken game at it's core that just makes the whole experience miserable.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on March 12, 2008, 11:52:34 pm: Did you bot? We botted. It really does help with your exp/ money situation. Botting programs do lots of cool shit that helps you play better too. Scripts... true macros... "walker map" (singles out stuff like "items" or "players" on an independant map for easy access (requires you to play windowed mode), lists (shows exp /adena/ item/ loss/ gain over time, lists all items on the ground that's within range, all mobs, npcs, players, and the like, there are enemy and gm alarms (Mine was sounded like a submarine), force log (crashes the client in a way that doesn't leave your character vulnerable for the 15 seconds), show enemy hp/mp (not cp though), automatic accept/deny invite/ressurection/etc, automatic potion/ item consumption (use greater healing potion if hp is >[this]%, use greater cp potion, bsoe, quick healing potion, cp/ hp elixers, and etc all under seperate options) and so much more. Botters always had a distinct advantage over those who didn't bot.... which is why there used to be a lot of fighting about supposed "botters" on the forums. But eventually everyone wised up and started botting themselves and simply fought each other over hunting grounds ingame... making it funner for everyone all around. Locking down areas so your clan can bot added a nice and constant element to competition in the game~
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Aten on March 13, 2008, 12:17:56 am: I don't know what "botting" is, but if it's some kind of way to make the game play by itself, the I know Tales of Pirates had some feature where every 5 minutes or something it popped up a window and you had to enter a 4 letter code in it and got kicked out if you didn't do it 3 times.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on March 13, 2008, 12:28:15 am: http://www.towalker.com/english/guide1.asp

This program is a little more sophisticated than any developer would allow. Yeah... this third party program automates your actions at any level you want to. Even if you aren't afk grinding, it still has many uses. And it is very much a bannable offense.

But the thing is that in 1 month of afk botting you can accomplish something that can take more than a year of live playing... so it's totally worth the risk. I will leave it at this though.... since I am doing that thing again where I fuck up a topic with L2 talk.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ragnar on March 13, 2008, 12:40:12 am: Quote from: Strangeluv on March 12, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
Q..Quest 64, anyone?

Quest 64 was more terribly mediocre than terribly bad - like so incredibly uneventful that it doesn't even deserve mentioning as an event in history

Except they were pretty scummy to release such a sucky RPG and then tout it as the first RPG for N64 - although imo Goemon 64 is kind of an RPG and a good one at that

also that DBZ game was already like 8 or 9 years old when it came out

also Infogrames always seemed like a seedy company to me
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rone Rivendale on March 13, 2008, 03:42:48 am: No DBZ game can be as bad as Star Wars: Masters of Tera Kasi or however the hell it was spelled. Urgh.

Or Double Dragon V for SNES
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: big ass skelly on March 13, 2008, 03:43:55 am: I have Quest 64 and I once tried with everything I could muster to play through it and I'm just not man enough
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 13, 2008, 03:58:59 am: Quote from: Rone Rivendale on March 13, 2008, 03:42:48 am
Or Double Dragon V for SNES

You win this thread for that.

That is probably one of the worst games ever spawned to mankind.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Neophyte on March 13, 2008, 07:05:26 pm: Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on March 12, 2008, 06:59:05 am
For me it was a tie:

Legend of Legaia II and.....fuck, I lied.

LEGEND OF FUCKING LEGAIA II WINS BY A LONG SHOT

The story, characters, maps and even (fucking puke-tastic) voice acting made me want to end myself. And whats the cream of the crap is the OST, composed by legendary Yasonori Mitsuda (Crono games, Xeno games) and Hitoshi Sakimoto (FF12) was so bad I had the game muted 80% of the time, aside a couple good tracks.
Haha, oh man whoever did Lang's voice is the worst voice actor EVER.
I did like the music in the game though, most of the tracks were pretty good aside from the dungeon themes.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rabane on March 14, 2008, 02:24:57 am: Secret of the Stars on Super Nintendo. Bad graphics, bad music, enemies were WAY too hard (spent countless hours levelling up), bad translation (fighting enemies called BadBad, Badman and Badbunny... WTH!?), BAD storyline... actually, the only good thing that came out from this game is that you know who's the baddie right at the beginning... some guy called Homncruse... Again, BAD translation.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Warlin on March 14, 2008, 03:50:38 am: I resent playing Mortal Kombaeadly Alliance for the GBA.
I REALLY resent that game. Infact, if I had the chance to go back in time I'd beat some midway people in the face for making that horrible piece of trash... The console version was good though.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2008, 04:17:14 am: Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on March 12, 2008, 04:27:39 pm
Are you serious? Grandia II's story was pretty bad and I agree it was nothing close to the original, but the game was terrible by no means.
This statement is false.

I don't want to get into it again because I can think of at least 30 topics I've ranted about how it is the worst fucking game in EXISTANCE, but suffice to say it is terrible by ALL means.

Hence... Grandia 2 and Grandia 3 are my worst gaming experiences.

Ever.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 14, 2008, 06:40:04 am: Quote from: #1 Dad on March 14, 2008, 04:17:14 am
This statement is false.

I don't want to get into it again because I can think of at least 30 topics I've ranted about how it is the worst fucking game in EXISTANCE, but suffice to say it is terrible by ALL means.

Hence... Grandia 2 and Grandia 3 are my worst gaming experiences.

Ever.

I really dont see how, but like you said you dont want to get into it and ill respect that.

But I dont think that G2 or 3 (which actually was leaps better than 2) were as bad as oh say, Xenosaga Ep2 or fucking FFV.

And another game to add to the list, Nightmare of Draga (or however you spell it). Its awful. There are too many, but the main one being the ever so delightful "turn-off when you save game" feature.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Silhouette on March 14, 2008, 06:56:40 am: Quote from: Strangeluv on March 12, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
Q..Quest 64, anyone?

I enjoyed Quest 64. :( Mostly because it was the only real N64 traditional RPG that I remember. I thought it was cool that you could move around in battle. :P
I didn't care much for the hidden spirits and empty towns, though.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 14, 2008, 08:01:15 pm: Quote from: #1 Dad on March 14, 2008, 04:17:14 am
Hence... Grandia 2 and Grandia 3 are my worst gaming experiences.

Are you serious? I mean they could have been better games but it's a pretty big stretch to say that they are worst video games ever made. Even if you hated their irreverent Japanese saturday-morning cartoon feel or whatever, there's no way that those can be the worst games you've ever played.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Kaworu on March 14, 2008, 08:07:42 pm: Private Servers seem to be more superstrict on botting (due to having like 200 members half of them being GMs). I was always hearing tales down the Giran backstreets about people getting banned so I decided not to risk it.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on March 14, 2008, 08:20:34 pm: Quote from: #1 Dad on March 14, 2008, 04:17:14 am
This statement is false.

I don't want to get into it again because I can think of at least 30 topics I've ranted about how it is the worst fucking game in EXISTANCE, but suffice to say it is terrible by ALL means.

Hence... Grandia 2 and Grandia 3 are my worst gaming experiences.

Ever.

Opinion is one thing, but this is really stretching it.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 14, 2008, 08:23:26 pm: Quote from: maladroithim on March 14, 2008, 08:01:15 pm
Are you serious? I mean they could have been better games but it's a pretty big stretch to say that they are worst video games ever made. Even if you hated their irreverent Japanese saturday-morning cartoon feel or whatever, there's no way that those can be the worst games you've ever played.

He didnt say that, he said they were his worst video game experiences. I am pretty sure the Grandia games (2 and 3) are FAR from the worst games ever made.

Either way, I know the first one was an amazing game, start to finish, even with the annoying voice acting the game made up for it with its breath-taking soundtrack and game play.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2008, 08:31:20 pm: Quote from: Feldschlacht IV on March 14, 2008, 08:20:34 pm
Opinion is one thing, but this is really stretching it.
Fine, I will once again explain why these games are terrible.

The stories are, as mentioned, terrible. They're predictable, boring, and ridiculous. The same can be said for most jrpgs, of course, but I've not found any that I've enjoyed less, and I've played quite a few. The games follow a set story. Point a to point b WITHOUT EXCEPTION. A linear game is fine as long as it is flexible even a LITTLE. You don't even make important choices in these games. You just READ TEXT. Even the characters were bland and completely unmemorable. The only one who seemed to have any personality that I can remember was the devil girl in 2.

And even worse is that there are NO SIDE QUESTS. Talking to people in towns is ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. There is nothing passed the main story. Sure Grandia 2 had that one field available for you to go back to and WOO FIGHT SOME MORE. But that wasn't even worth it.

The battle system was boring and sometimes incredibly frustrating. An open battle field but... you can't control where the characters run? TWO THUMBS UP.

And finally, after wading through the ocean of garbage for the 40 hours or so you invest in the games, hoping the endings will be a redeeming factor you end up listening to GAY ANIME MUSIC and watching your characters FLYING THROUGH THE AIR (SO MAGICAL................) ALL OUR DREAMS COME TRUE.

gr8 games.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 14, 2008, 08:59:50 pm: Quote from: #1 Dad on March 14, 2008, 08:31:20 pm
Fine, I will once again explain why these games are terrible.

The stories are, as mentioned, terrible. They're predictable, boring, and ridiculous. The same can be said for most jrpgs, of course, but I've not found any that I've enjoyed less, and I've played quite a few. The games follow a set story. Point a to point b WITHOUT EXCEPTION. A linear game is fine as long as it is flexible even a LITTLE. You don't even make important choices in these games. You just READ TEXT. Even the characters were bland and completely unmemorable. The only one who seemed to have any personality that I can remember was the devil girl in 2.

And even worse is that there are NO SIDE QUESTS. Talking to people in towns is ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. There is nothing passed the main story. Sure Grandia 2 had that one field available for you to go back to and WOO FIGHT SOME MORE. But that wasn't even worth it.

The battle system was boring and sometimes incredibly frustrating. An open battle field but... you can't control where the characters run? TWO THUMBS UP.

And finally, after wading through the ocean of garbage for the 40 hours or so you invest in the games, hoping the endings will be a redeeming factor you end up listening to GAY ANIME MUSIC and watching your characters FLYING THROUGH THE AIR (SO MAGICAL................) ALL OUR DREAMS COME TRUE.

gr8 games.

You said you would explain why these GAMES are terrible, yet all I see you do is flame G2.

Dont include the other 2 games if you only hate the 2nd one.

Grandia 1 was full of side quests, an engaging story and an interesting battle system. You can control where the characters run, it just requires strategy on the player's part. I remember in G1 when you fight some giant squid boss with Justin, Sue and Feena and you had to run away when it sucked you in.

As for Grandia 3, all I can say is that the story is very jrpg-ish but it gets better. Trust me, I cant stand games that are anime-ish, (Arc the Lad: TotS), but you cant overly attack these games without support from all 3. It sounds like you just played the 2nd one and were like "OMG THIS IS ANIME JAPFAGGISH THEY ALL SUCK"

I recommend you go back and give the 1st one another go, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sarah on March 14, 2008, 09:01:51 pm: Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on March 14, 2008, 08:59:50 pm
You said you would explain why these GAMES are terrible, yet all I see you do is flame G2.

Dont include the other 2 games if you only hate the 2nd one.

Grandia 1 was full of side quests, an engaging story and an interesting battle system. You can control where the characters run, it just requires strategy on the player's part. I remember in G1 when you fight some giant squid boss with Justin, Sue and Feena and you had to run away when it sucked you in.

As for Grandia 3, all I can say is that the story is very jrpg-ish but it gets better. Trust me, I cant stand games that are anime-ish, (Arc the Lad: TotS), but you cant overly attack these games without support from all 3. It sounds like you just played the 2nd one and were like "OMG THIS IS ANIME JAPFAGGISH THEY ALL SUCK"

I recommend you go back and give the 1st one another go, but that's just my opinion.
I never said anything about 1. I enjoyed the original.

Grandia 3 was EXACTLY THE SAME as Grandia 2 in every way except the story which was actually kind of WORSE.

I WANT TO FLY AND BE FREE LIKE A BIRD! And my mom is a party member!

edit: and no it doesn't get better I played through the entire game and the story was completely dreadful.

crystal world........
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Yeaster on March 14, 2008, 09:56:32 pm: Quote from: Strangeluv on March 12, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
Q..Quest 64, anyone?

Quest 64 looked awful. I never played it, but I saw my cousin play it, and it drove him mad. The game just looked absolutely boring.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Aten on March 16, 2008, 03:24:30 am: Oh god..... Formula 1 racing..... All versions all consoles... they just suck so bad....

ps

I loved Grandia 2. Grandia 1 even more then FF7. However, something you said about 3 makes me....

Quote from: #1 Dad on March 14, 2008, 09:01:51 pm
my mom is a party member!

:blarg:
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on March 16, 2008, 03:35:36 am: Grandia 3's maps are ridiculously huge and frustrating to navigate. Like, one dungeon will be 5-6 of these enormous maps that take like 15 minutes for each one (more if there are lots of enemies (most maps (they take goddamned forever okay))) and then usually you get to walk back out again. Also the battles are way too long. I get that they wanted to increase the diffculty but man it is just ridiculous.

So yeah Grandia 3 is my worst gaming experience in recent memory except for maybe Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter.

I actually like Grandia 2 though.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 16, 2008, 04:35:09 am: Quote from: Aten on March 16, 2008, 03:24:30 am
Oh god..... Formula 1 racing..... All versions all consoles... they just suck so bad....

ps

I loved Grandia 2. Grandia 1 even more then FF7. However, something you said about 3 makes me....

:blarg:

Gotta agree with you.

Although wasnt some character in that shitty Tales GC title someone's mother? Im not sure since I didnt play too much into the game but the terrible story made me stop.

Edit: Oh wait, it was Tales of Symphonia.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Aten on March 16, 2008, 04:53:13 am: parents esp mom etc are ok in th game, but IN THE ACTIVE PARTY? No man.... just... no.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on March 16, 2008, 05:16:28 am: Quote from: Aten on March 16, 2008, 04:53:13 am
parents esp mom etc are ok in th game, but IN THE ACTIVE PARTY? No man.... just... no.
I don't see why this is such a big deal. If your parent could fight and was with you and you were fighting things for whatever reason wouldn't you want them to help?
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on March 16, 2008, 05:30:16 am: Quote from: Aten on March 16, 2008, 04:53:13 am
parents esp mom etc are ok in th game, but IN THE ACTIVE PARTY? No man.... just... no.

Why not? Final Fantasy VI had Shadow and Strago, and in VIII I think Squall's father was playable (not sure, wasnt big on FF8).

As long as the said parent is a likable character then I dont mind it so much.

Edit: Tim beat me to it.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: doogie_forever on March 16, 2008, 10:58:58 am: You haven't played a shit game until you have played Alfred Chicken for PS1.

Seriously, its sooo bad that no one has posted any password cheats for it on GameFAQS or made any topics about it on the board.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/569258.html

This game is just plain terrible.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Cycle on March 17, 2008, 01:02:29 am: The Game Boy Alfred Chicken was fun! SNES one was alright too. From what I understand, the PSX version was just the SNES game with new pre-rendered graphics, and it was slapped out as a budget title.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sarevok on March 17, 2008, 09:17:11 am: Steam.

Why?
It's constantly crashing and then locking at 26% updating client saying it's already running when it's not (YES I'VE CHECKED TASK MANAGER). It then has to be reinstalled and merely reinstalling the client deletes all of your games, all of your saves and all of your favourite'd servers.

When?
Two to fucking three times a week eoiutowiutoklahdsljgfjhsgdfkhelthklqsjhgklsaghklsdghwejht29038t5u02w9t8 0293t2qtn3
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 17, 2008, 02:52:48 pm: Quote from: Timothy Musclerash on March 16, 2008, 03:35:36 am
. . . my worst gaming experience in recent memory except for maybe Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter.

Man that's awful. I thought Dragon Quarter was absolutely brilliant.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sarevok on March 17, 2008, 07:38:30 pm: Yeah likewise, and listening to chef screaming in the mic when playing DQ is one of my best gaming experiences.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Sludgelord on March 17, 2008, 08:06:39 pm: wow! looks like some real Gaming fiascos in this thread. Keep Em Coming *_*
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: The Dude on March 17, 2008, 10:45:35 pm: Another few obnoxious gaming moments were...
1. Watching my friends play the fabled Xbox360 game "Gears of War". At first, Gears of War had this ridiculously shitty commercial that used Fears for Tears "Sad World" playing in the background. This pissed me off, because I had intended to use the same song in Take Down Legacy Episode 2's opening movie... And didn't want my game associated with Xbox (at the time I hated Xbox, now I'm indifferent). The commercial looked and felt pathetic. I really don't see why people were hyped. THEN, I saw my friends play through the whole thing. They were having a blast, and I STILL don't see why they were hyped. The graphics were appalling, when attacking monsters it didn't matter where you shot them (even the arm) they'd explode in a ball of blood. When doing some 'cool destruction' like chainsawing a couch, it would split up the same way every time. Preset destruction, shitty graphics for the age, crap gameplay by comparison to other Xbox games (my friends even confessed how much they loathed the grenade system)... Gears of War pissed me off then, and continues to as it's cited as one of Xbox360's better games.

2. Assassin's Creed - Mobile.
I just downloaded Assassin's Creed on my cellphone. It looks and plays smoothly, like Gameboy Advance. I was REALLY impressed. I mean REALLY. The gameplay differed from the Xbox360/PS3 counterpart in that it was a 2D platformer. The game felt smooth, there's that word again, as you leapt over spike pits, bounced off walls, slinked down a narrow passage, wall crawled, flipped your ladder around so you could walk it along the wall, or even used the four weapons: Sword, Grappling Hook, Bomb, Crossbow.
The swordplay was a simple attack, block, parry shtick that worked exceedingly well.
Grappling hook just got you through some areas, and if you were across from an enemy (between which was a spiked pit) you could grapple the enemy and use him as a platform to clear the spiked pit. Bombs, well, blew up. Crossbow had this crosshair you could angle up and down, and generally felt great to use.
All in all a great game, yeah? Well, the boss battles felt Megaman-esque (another awesome thing) and the levels were generally well laid out with enough variety that it never felt repetitive. So what's my beef?
Well, length. I was done in about an hour (excluding the deviously Tombraider1 load times). Sure, it's a cellphone game... but HOLY FUCK. By the end of the game you're given all those fancy toys and for WHAT? It was just one cool tutorial---then Game Over. I don't even recall the ending, but it was dog too. The whole thing felt like someone gave me a big ol' two scoop ice cream cone, with sprinkles and fancy dribbled chocolate syrup and a waffle cone and then slapped it out of my hand so it fell into the face of a filthy hobo. I was so agitated.

3. Toy Home for PS3... I think that's what it's called. Sports! Skydiving for PS3. And other games that utilize the Six-Axis only.
To all game designers: Six Axis is the worst thing to happen to PlayStation since GranStream Saga (see earlier post)... Don't FLAUNT it!
The only game thus far that I've seen to use Six-Axis in a great way was Heavenly Sword. You could control arrows and canon fire with the Six Axis, and it really felt 'OK'. I still would have preferred an Analog option.
Sports! Skydiving is a formation skydiving game, and there's a few others that follow suit in using ONLY Six-Axis. No option to switch to Analog. It drives me insane. The game might be slightly "bored to hell" play-worthy... if not for that idiotic feature.
I truly praise Ratchet and Clank Future for their Six Axis use. In falling from the sky, you dodge missiles, cars, rocks, etc as you fall using the Six-Axis. However, if you suck enough (like me) it opens up the option for Analog. This is also true in their little electrode circuitry minigame. (though not for that damn Tornado gun)
I suppose what I'm bitching about is that perhaps the most frustrating, and endless, Worst Gaming Moment is the Six Axis for PlayStation 3.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Timothy Musclerash on March 18, 2008, 12:07:59 am: Quote from: maladroithim on March 17, 2008, 02:52:48 pm
Man that's awful. I thought Dragon Quarter was absolutely brilliant.
Last time I tried playing it (a couple of years ago) I got like 2/3 of the way into the game and thought it was pretty good but I just stopped playing. Then last week I started a new game and I guess maybe it is my uncertainty about what I keep from a retry that is keeping me from retrying but the game this time around feels like I'm just leading monsters into Nina's traps because everything else does atrocious damage. Maybe I should try retrying more, I dunno. I guess I just don't really understand how to get anywhere in the game any more.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Vellfire on March 18, 2008, 12:24:42 am: The first few times I tried playing Brain Dead 13 on the 3DO were terrible, because no one told me the 3DO version had a bug that made it unplayable about two minutes in. Basically it would force you to run in one direction no matter what direction you were choosing, and you ran straight into death. For a long time I thought it was just me having bad timing, so I would try for a while then quit playing, then later try again and quit again. I would never spent huge amounts of time at once playing this, and I wouldn't try every single day or anything, but I'd just pick it up every now and again and never understood why I couldn't get past the beginning.

Then later I found out it was because the game was fucked and felt like a dumbass!
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: The Dude on March 18, 2008, 01:51:12 am: Dude. Brain Dead 13?!? I literally know the guy who did the key animation for that game. He was teaching an animation course at the local art shop (which has a studio downstairs). He taught me the fundamentals of animation. But, yeah, that game was balls.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: NightBlade on March 18, 2008, 01:57:02 am: anything involving world of warcraft's PVP.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 18, 2008, 02:36:08 pm: Yeah so now my worst gaming experience happened yestery. It was spending an entire day of vacation trying to get X3 to run because Marcus recommended it and it seemed awesome. I got it to run just long enough to decide it was the best game ever before it started crashing again and I ended up killing myself three times. Like I'm really really upset about this. The problem is caused by the game assigning an invalid audio codec for decoding digitized speech or something and I don't understand why they didn't just use normal compressed audio files for everything and it's so stupid. I can't unregister the corrupted codec that the game created because it's corrupted and I can't change the codec assignment because you can't change which DLL file that a corrupt codec routes to because it is corrupt in the first place and I tried to change priorities but the game still would't recognize that my legitimate codec had a higher merit and shit guys I tried everything and I think I wasted $20.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: dada on March 18, 2008, 07:39:04 pm: Quote from: Dudesoft on March 18, 2008, 01:51:12 am
Dude. Brain Dead 13?!? I literally know the guy who did the key animation for that game. He was teaching an animation course at the local art shop (which has a studio downstairs). He taught me the fundamentals of animation. But, yeah, that game was balls.
Brain Dead 13 was awesome but I just couldn't beat it. The animation was brilliant, by the way.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: goat on March 18, 2008, 08:48:04 pm: Sewer Shark for Sega CD was pretty bad.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Vellfire on March 19, 2008, 04:43:13 pm: Yeah, Brain Dead 13 as a game was fantastic, you just had to have a copy that wasn't fucked up (we had the PC version too though and I watched my brother play it many a time)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: The Dude on March 22, 2008, 06:10:12 am: My PSX version was either scratched, or you can attribute it to my patience. I don't know how many times I can bare to watch the Repair guy die before it drove me nuts. I like the style of game and all, but I got to a vampire haircutter(?) or something, after beating the football frankenstein...and just gave up. I loved Fritz the little Igor guy, and the main villain. Hehe, such great characters.

Oh, gawd, can't think of a worst gaming moment. Derailing the topic into Braindead 13.
OK---Dungeon Maker, if I haven't mentioned it yet, for PSP. I thought it would be an entertaining game for making dungeons (a la RPG Maker). Nope. It's a dungeon-crawler. You make the dungeon while inside, decorate it, and then exit so monsters will wander in; enticed by your dungeon design. Then crawl through again, rape some monsters, and repeat. It held my attention for a few levels of my dungeon, but man was I disappointed. The only reason I kept playing was A) megabored, and B) had nothing else to play. It was tedious, repetative (slumping through the same ol' dungeon that YOU MADE can be a drag.), and bland (as far as hack'n'slash RPGs go).
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Shadow Kirby on March 22, 2008, 06:50:33 am: Quest64........ I can't even remember if that game had a story. And if it had one it must have been pretty boring cause I don't remember a single word of it.

It wasn't an awful game, it was just boring to tears.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ski on March 27, 2008, 04:25:35 am: Frontlines

Awful, fucking awful! The game looked pretty awesome at first but its just plain gay. Being prone and not being able to peg a guy with sniper rifle? WTF?

Two Worlds

Oblivion on Steroids? Fuck yourself. This game was retarded for a lot of reasons. Mainly because most monsters were next to impossible to defeat without traps, and even then you need 40 traps to take them down. The ending was stupid, both of them.

Modern Combat (360)

At first this game was cool, switching between soldiers, commanding different vehicals ect.. But destroying that train... Is fucking impossible! No matter how many times I retried that entire mission, I couldnt destroy the train no matter how many tactics I used it would blow up. Dumb, waste of time.

Theres probably more but Im too tired right now
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on March 27, 2008, 04:41:52 am: Superman 64, I think I can leave it at that. Me and a friend went to the local store to rent a game, we decided to get Superman 64, and I remember going back to his house and playing that steaming pile of shit.
Let's see, Chessmaster for the GBC. In fact, I picked that game up a few days back. It sucks pretty hard, because you can pick between like 5 colored boards and the same amount of pieces, but you only see a number to select said things. You don't see what it looks like before hand, and not only that, but you can not select a difficulty either. It is a very limited, boring game.

There were also the times that the save files of the ROMs of my SNES RPGs got deleted somehow, so very annoying.

Oh, there is also my Final Fantasy VII "horror story" as I call it. I was playing the game about last year, or maybe the year before that. Anyhow, I had leveled up a lot, beat all of the weapons and I think I had every magic spell/summon in the game. Well, I hadn't bothered to do the final battle with Sephiroth, so I decided to beat it after one school day. I came home and my nephew was playing the damn game, started a new game and ERASED MY SAVE FILE BY OVERWRITING IT. Words can't describe how mad I was. Either way, I started a new game and beat it after a few months, but I didn't bother to do a whole lot of extra things.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 27, 2008, 03:01:30 pm: Quote from: Omcifer on March 27, 2008, 04:41:52 am
Oh, there is also my Final Fantasy VII "horror story" as I call it. I was playing the game about last year, or maybe the year before that. Anyhow, I had leveled up a lot, beat all of the weapons and I think I had every magic spell/summon in the game. Well, I hadn't bothered to do the final battle with Sephiroth, so I decided to beat it after one school day. I came home and my nephew was playing the damn game, started a new game and ERASED MY SAVE FILE BY OVERWRITING IT. Words can't describe how mad I was. Either way, I started a new game and beat it after a few months, but I didn't bother to do a whole lot of extra things.

When I was playing through this game when it was new my save data got currupted about halfway through. It's really weird because this message just comes up saying "File is Ruined". I think I may have broken down into tears because I was like 12 years old or something and Final Fantasy 7 was serious business dude.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on March 27, 2008, 04:30:20 pm: I was playing I-Ninja, and the same thing happened. Except my data became corrupted at the END of the game.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Pulits on March 28, 2008, 12:57:41 am: Many games. But recently? Children of Mana for the DS. I almost cried with how awful it was. :(
The graphics and music were great. And even parts of the gameplay were decent, but it was how the game developed that made it so ugly and lame compared to Secret of Mana or Seiken Densetsu 3.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Grin Tree on March 28, 2008, 06:24:23 am: Quote from: Jester on March 12, 2008, 12:56:05 pm
yeah, mine is either alundra 2 or grandia 2. i enjoyed both originals a lot, and both sequels were really terrible awful terrible horrible games.

Grandia II was the first game I played in the series, followed by I and III. I liked the first 2, but the 3rd really blew - I had to force myself to play through the entire game. Ryudo > Justin or Yuki
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Mongoloid on March 28, 2008, 06:49:32 am: I don't have bad game experiences. when I buy a game that sucks, I take it back.

Drawn to Life
Digimon World 5
Mario Galaxy
Pheonix Wright 3
Tomb Raider Legends

All garbage. All taken back within a week.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Christophomicus on March 28, 2008, 04:17:57 pm: Quote from: Grin Tree on March 28, 2008, 06:24:23 am
Grandia II was the first game I played in the series, followed by I and III. I liked the first 2, but the 3rd really blew - I had to force myself to play through the entire game. Ryudo > Justin or Yuki

Man, Ryudo was a faggot. Justin moreso, I suppose. Feena and Rapp are where it's at, man.

Holy shit, I need to go play through Grandia again SO BADLY. I need to replay Grandia and Skies of Arcadia, but I think Grandia has to come first.

God damn it, Grin Tree; damn you for awakening these urges in me!
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Tau on March 28, 2008, 04:46:05 pm: Not my worst but the most annoying gaming experience I had was when I tried replaying Final Fantasy VII for the first time, and pretty much just cruised through the game, anyways I got to that scorpion boss at Nibelhiem(Spelling?) and was WAY to under leveled and no matter WHAT I tried, I just couldn't beat him. I spent a whole day trying to beat the fucker, but it was all in vain.. I still get nervous around that boss even if I'm wasting him haha.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: abkewl5 on March 28, 2008, 05:25:37 pm: Quote from: Strangeluv on March 12, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
Q..Quest 64, anyone?

Quest 64 wasnt that good of a game, but I didnt think it was that bad. Even though I was young at the time and barely understood what was happening, I always had a fun playing it. :fogetshrug:
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ralph on March 28, 2008, 07:19:18 pm: Quote from: Eric on March 28, 2008, 06:49:32 am
Pheonix Wright 3

Dude, what the hell.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: TMAC on March 29, 2008, 04:59:53 pm: Quote from: Eric on March 28, 2008, 06:49:32 am
Pheonix Wright 3

What the hell indeed! PW3 was quality and a solid way to end the series. It's no worse than PW2 at the very least.

Most frustrating gaming experience in recent memory: Revisiting the childhood bane that goes by the name of Ninja Gaiden (NES).
First, let me start by saying I do not feel that Ninja Gaiden is a bad game, simply a frustrating one. With that said, let the story begin!

Nearly a year ago I decided to beat Ninja Gaiden for the NES (now that I'm in my adult life). At first all was well and I breezed through the first few Stages with minimal difficulty. Yes they were still challenging, but very beatable. I rocked out to the kicking soundtrack and was actually ENJOYING the experience. Then came Stage 4, a mere foreshadowing to the pain yet to arrive. I blundered my way through 4 and stumbled through 5, with memories of dread and utter frustration seeping back into my head. I entered Stage 6 and was bombarded with a butt load of those damn birds (falcons, doves, WHO KNOWS? AND WHY ARE THERE SO MANY OF THEM INSIDE CAVES, TELL ME NAMCO?!) yet managed to get through 6-1 with relatively little problems. Oh but the fun was just about to begin, for I encountered STAGE 6-2! MY ARCH-NEMESIS! All the memories buried deep inside my psyche from childhood came to the surface and my heart started to race. "Surely I can do this now that 15 years have passed since last..." I weakly reassured myself. Oh was I so naive...Death after death I started to squirm and swear like an irate pirate being keelhauled. Cold sweat formed on my brow, my breathing grew heavy and my eyes widened, taking in as much of the screen as possible. My reaction time heightened to it's limit and I messily made it through Stage 6-2. OH GREAT JOY! I had finally slain the beast that haunted my childhood! Stage 6-3 was a formidable opponent and elicited more cursing and bellowing, but it dared not compare to it's younger brother. I made it to the boss at the end of Stage 6 and fought valiantly, for my honor as a Hayabusa was at stake! Alas, I did not have the true power of the ninja and died on his second form, "No biggie." I thought, "It'll put me at the last check point." Oh, ho-ho-ho...the foolishness of that thought, that would make too much sense, no? Apparently not to Namco...BECAUSE YOU START BACK AT STAGE 6-1 AND HAVE TO CLEAR 6-2 ALL OVER AGAIN! Upon seeing that I stared blankly at my TV for a few seconds and then self-destructed like a Bomb after a third hit! I tore off my T-Shirt and let out such a bestial roar that everyone in the vicinity must've thought I was having a domestic dispute like some drunken SOB. I wheeled, spitting the most acerbic things that came to my rage clouded mind and stomped around for awhile. After the rage had slightly subsided, I picked up the controller and vowed not to let this demon spawn in the guise of a game beat me. An hour later I returned to the Boss room, beat all the forms and the ending cutscene began to roll. By this time I was sitting there, covered in sweat, sans a shirt, shaking like a jonseing heroin addict. I did it! I finally beat the damn game! So many victorious expletives poured out as I juked, threw punches into the air and made an all around ass of myself. As a result, I missed most of the cutscene and had to eventually look it up on youtube. I slept well that night.

Thus ends my story of insanity. And while some may say "Ninja Gaiden isn't hard dude!" I recommend they keep their mouth shut, please. =D
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Grindie on March 29, 2008, 09:27:36 pm: Here's a wee review I wrote for Shadow the Hedgehog. I playedf it for less than 5 minutes, but that's all I needed.

According to SEGA, the best way to make a game appeal to adults is to give your main character a motorbike, a gun and have him run around saying "bastard" a lot. They applied this foolproof scheme to a game where you play as a giant black hedgehog and prayed people would take it seriously. I didn’t. This is the single worst experience I’ve had in my life… and I’ve been gang raped by gorillas.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on March 29, 2008, 10:38:12 pm: Quote from: TMAC on March 29, 2008, 04:59:53 pm
Story

This is an awesome post because not only is it apparently your first post every but also your info says you joined the forum five years ago.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: darkjak951 on April 04, 2008, 01:39:54 am: Quote from: Grindie on March 29, 2008, 09:27:36 pm
Here's a wee review I wrote for Shadow the Hedgehog. I playedf it for less than 5 minutes, but that's all I needed.

According to SEGA, the best way to make a game appeal to adults is to give your main character a motorbike, a gun and have him run around saying "bastard" a lot. They applied this foolproof scheme to a game where you play as a giant black hedgehog and prayed people would take it seriously. I didn’t. This is the single worst experience I’ve had in my life… and I’ve been gang raped by gorillas.

*equips an "anti flame armor" with a +5 dex and def enchantment*
I liked Shadow the Hedgehog, though not the best sega came up with. My worst gaming experience was playing "sonic the hedgehog anniversary edition" on my GBA. If you have played it, you know why its horrible! As for those of you who don't, lemme list all gripes:
-2 modes is pointless
-gay glitches EVERYWHERE
-crappy collision detection
-music blew balls
-frame rate sucked
The only good thing I can say about it was the fact that they included the spin dash and saving, but those alone dont save it. It was so bad, my local gamestop/eb games dont sell it anymore, atleast they take games seriously. You suck sega!
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: watermelon's on April 04, 2008, 03:24:05 am: Megaman X3, fighting Kaiser Sigma WITHOUT the Z-Saber.

Very annoying when you are 8 years old =\
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on April 04, 2008, 04:15:30 am: Quote from: darkjak951 on April 04, 2008, 01:39:54 am
-gay glitches EVERYWHERE

(http://www.brandonabley.com/wp-content/homosexuals-are-gay.jpg)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: darkjak951 on April 05, 2008, 12:53:42 am: Quote from: maladroithim on April 04, 2008, 04:15:30 am
(http://www.brandonabley.com/wp-content/homosexuals-are-gay.jpg)

sorry, i was in a rant XD
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: UPRC on April 05, 2008, 02:18:33 am: Quote from: Dudesoft on March 17, 2008, 10:45:35 pm
Another few obnoxious gaming moments were...
1. Watching my friends play the fabled Xbox360 game "Gears of War". At first, Gears of War had this ridiculously shitty commercial that used Fears for Tears "Sad World" playing in the background.

The song is actually called Mad World, and the commercial played the Gary Jules version.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Eltee on April 05, 2008, 02:53:08 am: If save file stories count, I have one.

Some time ago, I was playing Shadow Hearts on my ps2. I'd played SH and SH2, and finally moved on (again, since i had already beat 80% of it before) to SH3. It was the first I had ever played, and it had glued me to the series. After playing 1 and 2 though, I found out it was a far, far cry from either. So anyway, I was all glad, making it to the final subquest portion of the game. I had recently got the willpower to actually do the really painful and long ones, but I decided to get a little bit sidetracked. I rented Pro Evolution Soccer (to burn it, my ps2 is modded). Turns out the PES disc was fucked, and crashed during gameplay. So I didn't burn it, but the bad part is..

Just before putting PES in, I messed in Action Replay. I wanted to delete some saves from my card and zip others. Here I went, chose a few lame saves and pressed delete. Say what? All my saves disappeared. I thought at first it was a graphic bug, but they were really gone. I thought Armax fucked me up good. I tried a few million things, but nothing really worked. After a while I found out it not only deleted everything, but it also CORRUPTED IT. I formatted, before trying to save my files using other apps. Shame.. Now, that card DID NOT permit saving complex game data on it (PES save data, Gran Turismo 4 save data, etc) so I tried a few things, of which I tried hitting it with a hammer. It still works to this day, but is still corrupted in the sense complex data won't save. Either way, I got a 64mb card, and I never played SH3 again. This left me with an awkward feeling, as I was REALLY looking forward to FINALLY beating SH3, after beating SH1 and SH2. I felt totally screwed having to watch the ending on youtube instead of getting it myself.

And I was having such a time too...
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: HL on April 05, 2008, 02:55:14 am: Losing to LordTyphoon in a First to 10 in Garou - Mark of the Wolves will top any worst game experience.

Except for E.T. for the ATARI 2600.

jesus that game was bad.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Mamamack on April 05, 2008, 03:24:03 am: My husband and I invested in a number of bad games in our time. Aidyn Chronicles for the 64 was just terrible and I was left wondering how such a piece of garbage was even released. That game wasn't even fun to play drunk- it was just an exercise in frustration.

I think the worst gaming experience I can recall was watching my husband play Darkened Skye for the GC. We bought it used because the cover looked like an adventure RPG with the typical scantily clad hero chick jumping around doing all sorts of fun things. And then we saw the beginning and played a bit only to discover that the heroine was off on a quest to restore the rainbow. This game was one giant product placement, leaving you to travel the five worlds collecting MAGIC F@^$_@G SKITTLES. The dialogue in the game wasn't completely terrible and I think it could have been a decent game if more thought and care had been put into the actual gameplay element. The camera is unforgiving, jump placement has to be absolutely perfect and did I mention that you have to collect MAGIC SKITTLES in order to get through the game. . . I did wind up beating the game and saving the rainbow but I haven't ever looked at Skittles again in the same light.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on April 06, 2008, 06:02:44 pm: Quote from: Mr. L on April 05, 2008, 02:53:08 am
TRAGEDY

Sucks man. It's awful when you lose your save file late into a long game that has a linear sense of progression. Do you *really* want to play 50 hours of game again just to get to that last few?

My save file for Final Fantasy XII was deleted in a Playstation 3 firmware update the other day. I had 110 hours, give or take a few, and was sitting down to finally complete that monster of a game when I found that all my PS2 saves had mysteriously disappeared. I am really sad about this :(
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Eltee on April 06, 2008, 06:50:32 pm: Hah, that sucks. I didn't know PS3 saved PSX/PS2 files on the harddrive.

Then again, it only makes sense...

I considered getting codebreaker (it took me a few months to get a working warezed copy) to replay SH3(and the other SH games) but with like, every item and so already gotten, so I could just breeze through the game at my own pace, without ever having to look around for items in dungeons not to miss out the magical grail that makes your penis seventy times as long, etc etc..
But I won't afterall. The vibe died.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 06, 2008, 06:54:41 pm: Quote from: Dan on April 05, 2008, 02:18:33 am
The song is actually called Mad World, and the commercial played the Gary Jules version.

AND the original song was by Tears for Fears, not Fears for Tears so basically he was wrong in every way!
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on April 07, 2008, 03:25:01 pm: Quote from: Mr. L on April 06, 2008, 06:50:32 pm
I considered getting codebreaker (it took me a few months to get a working warezed copy) to replay SH3(and the other SH games) but with like, every item and so already gotten, so I could just breeze through the game at my own pace, without ever having to look around for items in dungeons not to miss out the magical grail that makes your penis seventy times as long, etc etc..
But I won't afterall. The vibe died.

A tried a similar thing with a trainer for Titan Quest when I clicked in the wrong place accidentally and ending up ruining my character. However after going into an editor and undoing my action and basically setting my character back to exactly where he should have been, something about the game no longer seemed novel. It wasn't as fun gaining levels and finding loot when I knew that I could just load up an editor and speed the process.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Killer Wolf on April 09, 2008, 03:28:31 am: My worst experience would probably have to be a three way tie.

"Legend of Alon-Dar" (I believe was the name)

First off, I should have known things would not go well. I'd heard some good things about it, and went to rent it with a friend of mine because we were both bored as hell. The name of the guy at Blockbuster was, I kid you not, Falcorian. It went something like this:

Hello, I'm Falcorian.
Falcorian, We're looking for The Legend of Alon-Dar. (Worst exchange in a Blockbuster ever, I thought I was living a rough draft for a new Clerks movie)

The graphics were unimpressive, the gameplay was boring...I took it back before the end of Fal's shift.

"Batman Rise of Sin-Tzu"

I actually had some mindless button mashing fun with it for a while. I teamed up with the same friend from the above example as Batman and Nightwing and proceeded to take Gotham back from the new threat - right up to the point where we had to actually fight him. Avoid re-spawning enemies and beat everything in sight to a pulp so I could build up enough combo/power bar to attack Sin-Tzu ONCE and take off a small spec of health.

My friend and I looked at each other and said, "Screw this."

"Tomb Raider:Angel of Darkness"

The story seemed interesting, the control seemed to not totally suck, and the stealth aspect seemed interesting. Things are not always as they seem. The game boarders on unplayability. I liked the idea of leveling up the characters abilities to unlock new areas and the like, very Symphony of the Night of them, but that meant I'd have to backtrack to the place I wanted to explore - provided I could even remember where it was.

I spent fifteen minutes trying to climb onto the jeep in the garage to no avail. I'm not sure what was going on there, but my character had no interest in doing what I was commanding.

It reminded me of an old Pennyarcade strip featuring a female character sprouting gibberish who couldn't, despite the gamer's repeated attempts, navigate a rudimentary obstacle. The last panel featured the quote "I don't speak crazy bitch."
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: jamie on April 09, 2008, 09:40:10 am: my worst videogaming experience was (prepare yourself) (are you prepared? better get ready) final fantasy VII.

that's right i hate FFVII. my reasons is several

(edit later)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Eltee on April 09, 2008, 10:57:28 am: I don't see why that would be a shock, ever since the world grew brains, 90% of the people hates ff7.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Bisse on April 09, 2008, 11:24:24 am: Everyone here knows how much I love La Mulana, I love everything about however it has made me cry like a baby. This, this, is the single worst gaming moment of my life.This is a spoiler, but most people would probably never beat hell temple anyway. Just to be sure, don't watch the video if you ever plan on beating La Mulana's hidden Hell Temple. So, here we go.

Let me set the scene for you.

The game is beaten! The treasure of La Mulana is mine! Yes, after a month of toil and sweat, i've done it! But wait? There's more? There's a hidden dungeon? Haha! Hidden dungeons are nothing before me! But how do you unlock it? I read up on the internet about how to find the hidden Hell Temple. Turns out it is not a nice place. After having my soul tortured for days by its infernal punishing platforming segments and puzzles convoluted beyond human logic, being made fun of by a talking laptop, getting 120,000 points in the god damn Gradius game, doing it again while standing at the correct spot, and finally beating the final boss that deals a fuckton of damage and is immune to everything except your worst weapon, and falling for (through) the HA HA BACK TO THE BEGINNING WITH YOU LOL trap floor in the room before the final treasure and working my way back, again... the end is just a ladder away! I wipe the sweat, blood and tears from my face, hold my head up high, take a deep breath, and proceed onward to claim the absolutely final, the forbidden, the ultimate treasure of La Mulana. This marks the end of the entire game! What's that, talking laptop? You're telling me to go back? You're telling me to turn around and leave, before it's too late? You're telling me, who have worked so hard, I will regret this? Hah! You fool! I don't believe your lies! I have cried, I have screamed, I have punched my keyboard over and over, but nothing, NOTHING can make me regret trudging through Hell Temple! The forbidden treasure is mine! NOTHING can destroy this moment, this moment of ultimate vict-

....what?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWWUUUAAAHUHUHUHUHUUUHAAAAAAAAAAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_69urn7asVA)
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on April 09, 2008, 02:49:51 pm: Quote from: Bisse on April 09, 2008, 11:24:24 am
tragedy

Man I have got to play this game.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Blitzen on April 09, 2008, 05:40:15 pm: My worst gaming experiences? Kingdom Hearts would have to be up there. How anyone has any patience for that game is beyond me. After about half an hour I was so frustrated with the protracted cutscenes and go-nowhere gameplay that I was about to throw up everywhere. FFXII was also disappointing in the same way, but because it opened up a bit quicker I was more receptive. Rampage Universal Tour also sucked ass. Rampage World Tour was awesome. I don't know what changed, but whatever they did to it, it sucked.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Feldschlacht IV on April 09, 2008, 08:28:07 pm: Quote
My worst gaming experiences? Kingdom Hearts would have to be up there. How anyone has any patience for that game is beyond me. After about half an hour I was so frustrated with the protracted cutscenes and go-nowhere gameplay that I was about to throw up everywhere.

Aw,`come on, the game isn't that bad. If you give the story a fair chance, it's not bad, and as for the gameplay, it's just like any other game. You fight things. I can see how it would get old though, but it's not a bad game. I give the franchise a lot of credit because of how much Kingdom Hearts II improved on everything.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on April 09, 2008, 08:30:39 pm: Quote from: Mr. L on April 09, 2008, 10:57:28 am
I don't see why that would be a shock, ever since the world grew brains, 90% of the people hates ff7.
Quote from: real_jamicus on April 09, 2008, 09:40:10 am
my worst videogaming experience was (prepare yourself) (are you prepared? better get ready) final fantasy VII.

that's right i hate FFVII. my reasons is several

(edit later)
What?

FFVII was a great game.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: dragonheartman on April 10, 2008, 01:23:14 am: It's also been scientifically proven (http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/sci;283/5400/317?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=overrated&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT) that it's the most overrated game in existence. lolwut?

My worst gaming experience was a recent one. I ate out at this chinese place, which was pretty good. Then about 10 minutes after I started playing Pump It Up (korean DDR). I got sick to my stomach and ended up throwing up everywhere and destroying several toilets.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: AdderallApocalypse on April 10, 2008, 01:28:29 am: Fine, what are your reasons for it being so overrated? I say Gears of War was actually rather overrated.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ghost_Aspergers on April 10, 2008, 01:33:10 am: Quote from: Bisse on April 09, 2008, 11:24:24 am

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
OH GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWWUUUAAAHUHUHUHUHUUUHAAAAAAAAAAAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_69urn7asVA)

Is this for real? This is the same hell song from Cave Story... among other things that are fishy about it.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: halibabica on April 10, 2008, 01:33:32 am: I'd have to say my absolute worst gaming experience would be 15-minute Melee from Super Smash Bros. Melee. It's not that it was too hard, it's that it was just tough enough to thwart you after being two-thirds of the way through it. And it only gets worse beyond that point. I can't tell you how many times I died within the last thirty seconds of the fight, because that statistic cannot be bound to a regular number line. Biggest waste of my life EVER.

Although I haven't played Brawl's 15-minute Brawl yet, so that might get replaced as my worst gaming experience sometime soon (why do I punish myself like this?).
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Ragnar on April 11, 2008, 02:53:00 pm: Does anybody else find La Mulana kind of disturbing - like it was made by someone who's been driven half-insane by overhard games - like even if a Mario game is hard at least it's cute on the surface
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Freddie on April 12, 2008, 10:50:12 am: I can't believe no one has mentioned Big Rigs yet.

Aaanyway. For my worst gaming experience... man, there are a few to choose from. But I'm going to go with... *drum roll* Final Fantasy IX.

WHAT?! How can he say that? It was a great game with cool graphics and a cutesy feel to it! It tried to go back the series' roots! OMGLOLz!!11 etc.

There are many reasons for me hating FFIX with a passion. One of them is the often godawful music (courtesy of Nobuo Uematsu, who was at this time already displaying all the signs of needing to either change his act up or get the heck out of the business) - did you try to explore Daguerreo for an extended period of time? Or Treno, for that matter? Oh dear Lord. I muted the volume when playing this game, and I never do that.

Battles were slow and tedious, with far too much loading before and after. The story went from being slightly okay to decent to completely retarded over the course of two discs. The characters were as flat as cardboard cutouts with no personality whatsoever (with the exception of Vivi, but he got shunted to the side after the first disc). The only good thing about this game was its graphics.

And another reason I hate this game is the final boss. Now, I'm not going to write his - its? - name out because I don't want to spoil things for those who have yet to play this game. But I will say this: When the actual final boss of Final Fantasy IX was revealed, along with some of the worst character development I've seen since Xenogears, it gave new meaning to the word "fail".
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: maladroithim on April 12, 2008, 05:37:11 pm: Quote from: Freddie on April 12, 2008, 10:50:12 am
FINAL FANTASY IX SUCKS

Judging by the fact that you are making a fangame I will assume that you like Final Fantasy games. That said:

You might not think FF9 was the best Final Fantasy game ever, and maybe it didn't live up to your expectations because there was too much loading and the music wasn't that great and maybe it didn't take itself seriously (I thought all of the same things at the time but a decade later I believe it aged much better than the other PS1 Final Fantasy titles). However, based on your post, you played through the entire game as well as went through its secret optional content -- so you probably played it for at least 40 hours or more? I doubt you actually hated it that much. If it was as bad as you said it was, you would probably have stopped playing it at some point.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: abkewl5 on April 12, 2008, 07:17:28 pm: Quote from: Freddie on April 12, 2008, 10:50:12 am
There are many reasons for me hating FFIX with a passion. One of them is the often godawful music (courtesy of Nobuo Uematsu, who was at this time already displaying all the signs of needing to either change his act up or get the heck out of the business) - did you try to explore Daguerreo for an extended period of time? Or Treno, for that matter? Oh dear Lord. I muted the volume when playing this game, and I never do that.

Hmmm.

I thought that Final Fantasy 9 had some of the best music in the series.

Guess thats personal taste? :fogetshrug:
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Anima_Dnb on April 12, 2008, 07:24:20 pm: Nah I have to agree on that.

But come on people!

The final fantasy series aint the worst thing you could have played out there right? U never played anything that was total CRAP or just too buggy to play and that it would seriously piss the hell out of you? :fogetmmh:

I have to say I hate the clocktower series on the PSX. Im a huge fan of Survival Horror games *Points at his Resident Evil Poster*. But this game was just... not right.. It reminds me of some sort of Resident Evil 1 rip-off.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rayne on April 12, 2008, 09:25:44 pm: Quote from: Anima_Dnb on April 12, 2008, 07:24:20 pm
I have to say I hate the clocktower series on the PSX. Im a huge fan of Survival Horror games *Points at his Resident Evil Poster*. But this game was just... not right.. It reminds me of some sort of Resident Evil 1 rip-off.

Clock Tower came first, on the SNES. And Resident Evil was a Alone in the Dark ripoff anyway. Also, from what I've played of the first one, I can say they aren't anything alike. Like at all. But I've only played the first Clock Tower, so I've no idea how the other ones are.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Freddie on April 12, 2008, 10:56:30 pm: Quote from: maladroithim on April 12, 2008, 05:37:11 pm
Judging by the fact that you are making a fangame I will assume that you like Final Fantasy games. That said:

You might not think FF9 was the best Final Fantasy game ever, and maybe it didn't live up to your expectations because there was too much loading and the music wasn't that great and maybe it didn't take itself seriously (I thought all of the same things at the time but a decade later I believe it aged much better than the other PS1 Final Fantasy titles). However, based on your post, you played through the entire game as well as went through its secret optional content -- so you probably played it for at least 40 hours or more? I doubt you actually hated it that much. If it was as bad as you said it was, you would probably have stopped playing it at some point.

Yes, yes, of course. You're right.

First off though, I'm not making an FF fangame. I'm merely composing music for one (its thread can be found in the Game Development forum).

Second, as I said, you're quite right. I didn't hate it enough to quit. There were just so many things that really bothered me with it (see my post). The reason why I played all the way through it and found a lot of the optional stuff as well was because I tend to play my games all the way through, no matter how bad they may be. And I liked Vivi. :) I suppose I just wanted to rant about it, because it made me thoroughly disappointed quite a few times.

Quote from: Anima_Dnb on April 12, 2008, 07:24:20 pm

The final fantasy series aint the worst thing you could have played out there right? U never played anything that was total CRAP or just too buggy to play and that it would seriously piss the hell out of you? :fogetmmh:

Oh, indeed not! I like the series in general. Number nine made me both angry and disappointed, though.

So, long story short, I'm sorry if I overflamed the game. I really dislike it for all the reasons I listed, but I did play it through. So perhaps it doesn't count in this case. :)

Big Rigs, though... has anyone played that one? -_-
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Neok on April 12, 2008, 11:37:41 pm: Quote from: Rayne on April 12, 2008, 09:25:44 pm
Clock Tower came first, on the SNES. And Resident Evil was a Alone in the Dark ripoff anyway. Also, from what I've played of the first one, I can say they aren't anything alike. Like at all. But I've only played the first Clock Tower, so I've no idea how the other ones are.

That's good. Don't ever play any of the other clock towers. Especially avoid #3. It is horrible.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Killer Wolf on April 13, 2008, 06:23:03 am: I've only played the original Clock Tower for the SNES and Clocktower 3. The SNES one had some of the most twisted endings. I remember not doing so well during my first playthrough and receiving and ending that I actually found disturbing at first blush. I enjoyed the third one, if only for the feeling of place and the "spookyness" of the setting. The low poly enemies weren't exactly terrifying to look at, but they had a bad habit of popping up at the most inopportune moments. Also I'll always remember that game for one reason: during the "sewer" level, one of the parts where the entity/serial killer appears to chase you, coincided exactly with the light bulb in my bedroom burning out. The combined stimuli, momentarily giving the game the appearance of being able to reach out into the real world, actually spooked me out a bit.

I felt really stupid afterwards though and switched to those energy saver bulbs with the five year lifespan.

In keeping with the spirit of the thread, I have another "worst" moment to share that came to mind after my initial post.

The playstation abomination known as Spawn. That game was absolutely horrible. It looked bad, controlled poorly and left you to wander around with an everlasting "what the hell?" expression. It did let me beat people up with their own bloody stumps, but that wasn't enough to rescue it. I never finished it. I recall clearly the moment I put the controller down, having found no good answer to my query of "why on earth am I still playing this mess?"
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Bisse on April 13, 2008, 11:25:00 am: Quote from: KBJGXLM on April 10, 2008, 01:33:10 am
Is this for real? This is the same hell song from Cave Story... among other things that are fishy about it.
Haha! Yeah it's for real. He turned off the game's own music before and during the boss, and after, uh, it, and played shit on winamp instead. (Because hell temple's music is bloody annoying) Also, he looked up the answers to all the puzzles and where the traps were and shit which is why he knows what's coming up all the way until the final room. (Because hell temple is bloody annoying) The reaction to it is totally for real though.

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Does anybody else find La Mulana kind of disturbing - like it was made by someone who's been driven half-insane by overhard games - like even if a Mario game is hard at least it's cute on the surface
Hell Temple was definitely made by a guy like that yeah. Someone who hates his fans and gets a kick out of making people cry. But it's a hidden dungeon - the rest of the game isn't like that at all, the rest of the game is sane. It's hard aye, but it's one of those games you can beat without a walkthrough. It's not as hard/annoying as say, Sam 'n Max or Maniac Mansion.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: PTizzle on April 14, 2008, 09:07:30 am: Quote from: Pulits on March 28, 2008, 12:57:41 am
Many games. But recently? Children of Mana for the DS. I almost cried with how awful it was. :(
The graphics and music were great. And even parts of the gameplay were decent, but it was how the game developed that made it so ugly and lame compared to Secret of Mana or Seiken Densetsu 3.

I agree with you here. I pushed through Sword of Mana for GBA and this and both times I wasn't rewarded at all. The gameplay was decent but it got so repetitive toward the end, and the story might as well have been non-existent for how generic it was. It was better than Sword but barely.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: goat on April 25, 2008, 04:33:41 pm: Quote from: Rayne on April 12, 2008, 09:25:44 pm
Clock Tower came first, on the SNES. And Resident Evil was a Alone in the Dark ripoff anyway. Also, from what I've played of the first one, I can say they aren't anything alike. Like at all. But I've only played the first Clock Tower, so I've no idea how the other ones are.

I don't think you can call resident evil a ripoff if it was better than what it was "ripping-off".
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Artis Leon Ivey Jr on April 25, 2008, 04:36:18 pm: Quote
The reaction to it is totally for real though.

I don't buy it. the way he hyped it up was pretty obvious, it seemed like he knew!

I know if that happeend to me I'd be like ahahahaha that's pretty funny. that was pretty good. but I wouldn't be like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unless I was going fo ra joke.
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Rayne on April 25, 2008, 09:14:49 pm: Quote from: goat on April 25, 2008, 04:33:41 pm
I don't think you can call resident evil a ripoff if it was better than what it was "ripping-off".
Would you feel better if I said it was 'inspired by' Alone in the Dark instead?
Title: Your worst gaming experience(s)?
Post by: Cho on April 25, 2008, 10:03:47 pm: Quote
Like at all. But I've only played the first Clock Tower, so I've no idea how the other ones are.

The first Playstation one is pretty alright, and the first chapter of The Struggle Within is kind of neat. It has the "trapped in a house with a murderous child" thing going on. The second and third chapters are godawful because it tries to be Resident Evil, placing our intrepid heroine against zombies. Lots and lots of zombies. Zombies you had to kill to get by, instead of being able to hide from them or outwit them or anything.

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I don't think you can call resident evil a ripoff if it was better than what it was "ripping-off".

Pretty sure you can, but I don't know if Resident Evil is an Alone in the Dark rip off or not. Although I will say that I enjoyed Alone in the Dark far more than Resident Evil.