If this turns into a lawsuit I hope they use first names instead of last so it's Jameeka vs Shameka.
A 13 year old in a class of 11 year olds.Well, in 6th grade, you can turn 12 before you leave and many students do start school late by a year. I had a few people in my elementary school who were older than me, never stood back, but just began late.
Wtf, I don't see the problem in doing something the teacher told you to do and ge traumatized by that.Are you serious?
Nor do I see a reason why a teacher could get in trouble, just for saying that.
Glad I teach in Holland.
The district says teachers have to allow students to use the restroom.
Quonterious Thomas
When I was 8 or so my teacher would not allow me to go to the bathroom for some reason or another, I was fascinated with the civil rights movement at the time and told her I had a right to use the bathroom and that she was opressing me and walked out of the room it was awesome i felt like a REBELHaha, you made me reminisce. I don't remember too much of it, but back when I was really young (in first grade) I went out for recess but forgot to go to the bathroom during lunch. I went back and tried to go in the building to use the restroom but I guess the person supervising recess didn't like that? I wasn't allowed back into the building for reasons unknown to me (I guess they thought I'd cause mischeif and not go to the bathroom). I really had to go though so I went over to the side of the building and pissed on the building. Some bitch caught me (don't remember if it was the same chick who said I couldn't go inside) and took me to the principal's office. So I was about to get suspended over this and my mom was outraged. She went in on my behalf (first grade remember) and pretty much got an apology for the whole ordeal from the principal.
edit: actually i probably wouldn't say that to sixth graders. maybe high schoolers though
But a high schooler is the most likely to eitherYeah. How do some of you not get why this was WRONG?
A: Pee in your lunchbox
or
B: Just walk out
But trujin holding for so long can cause urinary tract infections which may cause death
Yes, Florida schools are fucked up. The worst part is nobody cares. All of our representatives couldn't give two shits in a lunchbox about education.Fixed.
Fixed.
I'm impressed he called her bluff, but still...that's pretty disgusting. Hold it in. She didn't give him any real choice (for normal people). But she'll get fired because the victim is always right. I hear that teachers aren't even allowed to strap or paddle kids anymore. [/1950s]
"Pissing in the teacher's lunchbox? That's a paddlin'."
We were never allowed to go to the bathroom during tests, so applying that rule is circumstantial at best.
The teacher is in charge. If she decides "No, you can't do <such and such> right now", then that's it. In this particular instance, the teacher handled her authority really really poorly, but what "she's supposed to do" and what circumstance dictates sometimes conflict and she has to make a judgement call. It's within her authority to do so, imho.
The district says teachers have to allow students to use the restroom.
Well, you're wrong.One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting. Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding. Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.
The teacher isn't in charge, as teacher's answer to the principal and superintendent, and more importantly, the school boards. In this district, they are forced to let the kid's go to the restroom, and therefore, this female teacher broke the rules, and got whats coming to her.
One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting. Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding. Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.
Two, I will bet everything I own that there have been instances where a teacher in that district has forbidden a student from going to the washroom during class, and the teacher suffered NO repercussions. (like, during a test or final, for instance).
One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting. Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding. Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.
Two, I will bet everything I own that there have been instances where a teacher in that district has forbidden a student from going to the washroom during class, and the teacher suffered NO repercussions.
Man he was 13, thats the first year in high school in New Zealand and if my teacher said that to me when I was 13 I definately would of just walked out.
Yeah. How do some of you not get why this was WRONG?
Children are taught to listen to their teachers, so if the teacher gives them TWO CHOICES they aren't likely to say HEY THIS IS PRETTY UNREASONABLE, I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM. Some of you are making it seem like this was a joke on the teachers part, when pretty clearly it wasn't. I mean, I'm sure she didn't think anyone would take her up the lunchbox thing, but if she hadn't proposed it wouldn't have happened. Even worse was, that when it did happen, she didn't stop it. She allowed the entire class to witness this, which would be traumatic for any child, because we're taught that this is a private action.
She was in the wrong and that's all there is to it. If she had a problem with kids 'going to the washroom' and then wasting time outside of class, that's something she could have dealt with on an individual basis with the parents and principal for the problematic students, rather than taking it out on the entire class. It was poor judgement on her part and she does deserve to be punished.
edit: actually marcus i am not sure if the quote is supposed to read like "is a high school student more likely to...?" because the way you phrased it could mean something entirely different so idk which you were trying to get across there. I said 'yeah' because I suspect you're trying to point out that a high school student is old enough to figure out a reasonable choice.
edit edit: after re-reading your post (before the one I quoted) it seems like you think this kid was dumb for obeying the authority figure who is supposed to teach them the right thing to do. while at 13 you should be pretty capable of thinking on your own, the fact that he's 13 in sixth grade kind of leads me to believe he's probably not a NORMAL (i am saying he was likely slow) 13 year old, which is why he was the one who ended up doing it.
We were never allowed to go to the bathroom during tests, so applying that rule is circumstantial at best.
The teacher is in charge. If she decides "No, you can't do <such and such> right now", then that's it. In this particular instance, the teacher handled her authority really really poorly, but what "she's supposed to do" and what circumstance dictates sometimes conflict and she has to make a judgement call. It's within her authority to do so, imho.
man if he is 13 i am almost certain he did it to troll the goddamn teacher.
i dont think he really did it because he didnt have another alternative.
Peeing when and where I want is a civil right? What about disobeying the teacher? Is that my right? Is that right?
I am defending the teacher because the kid is retarded. And the article paints the kid as some halpless victimized kid. I call bullshit. It's like if I offer you $10,000 or an elephant...yeah, the elephant offer wasn't serious. Seriously, the kid knows that peeing in a lunchbox is wrong. He did something wrong. How can anyone not see that?
Peeing when and where I want is a civil right? What about disobeying the teacher? Is that my right? Is that right?
I am defending the teacher because the kid is retarded. And the article paints the kid as some halpless victimized kid. I call bullshit. It's like if I offer you $10,000 or an elephant...yeah, the elephant offer wasn't serious. Seriously, the kid knows that peeing in a lunchbox is wrong. He did something wrong. How can anyone not see that?
fffffffffffffff if the teach said "pee your pants or go kill that kid over there" would the kid still be absolved of the deed if he killed that kid? Of course peeing in the lunchbox is the joke option.
"Hold it in" was the correct answer, btw.
If the kid was intent on going pee, he should have just walked out of the class and went to the washroom. Too bad he was intent on acting like fool and was "traumatized".
And yes, you learn to respect authority in school.
any PUSSY teacher would have simply done the humane thing and let the kid go to the toilet instead of deliberately harassing the guy, but I don't think out community needs anymore PUSSIES, we need real teachers. The kind that make people piss themselves in class so they can learn control and respect, the kind that cane students who are capable of questioning a teacher's decision (because questioning authority is bad. The people in charge are ALWAYS RIGHT).
You're kidding me, right?Uh... dude. The sarcasm is pretty damned obvious!
glad to know that your school district is all about taking away civil rights
It's not very hard to hold yourself for an hour. I believe that students should be allowed to go out and pee if they don't ask regularly, but this kid might have been a troublemaker and ask to go peeing nearly every hour. If he wasn't a troublemaker and actually couldn't hold, he would probably pee his pants. He probably did it to show his disrespect to the teacher.
Yeah. How do some of you not get why this was WRONG?finding this whole ordeal hilarious isn't that bad dude
Children are taught to listen to their teachers, so if the teacher gives them TWO CHOICES they aren't likely to say HEY THIS IS PRETTY UNREASONABLE, I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM. Some of you are making it seem like this was a joke on the teachers part, when pretty clearly it wasn't. I mean, I'm sure she didn't think anyone would take her up the lunchbox thing, but if she hadn't proposed it wouldn't have happened. Even worse was, that when it did happen, she didn't stop it. She allowed the entire class to witness this, which would be traumatic for any child, because we're taught that this is a private action.
She was in the wrong and that's all there is to it. If she had a problem with kids 'going to the washroom' and then wasting time outside of class, that's something she could have dealt with on an individual basis with the parents and principal for the problematic students, rather than taking it out on the entire class. It was poor judgement on her part and she does deserve to be punished.
edit: actually marcus i am not sure if the quote is supposed to read like "is a high school student more likely to...?" because the way you phrased it could mean something entirely different so idk which you were trying to get across there. I said 'yeah' because I suspect you're trying to point out that a high school student is old enough to figure out a reasonable choice.
edit edit: after re-reading your post (before the one I quoted) it seems like you think this kid was dumb for obeying the authority figure who is supposed to teach them the right thing to do. while at 13 you should be pretty capable of thinking on your own, the fact that he's 13 in sixth grade kind of leads me to believe he's probably not a NORMAL (i am saying he was likely slow) 13 year old, which is why he was the one who ended up doing it.