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General Category => Entertainment and Media => Topic started by: thecatamites on March 19, 2008, 03:21:47 am
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I didn't see any other topics on this, so...
Iron Man!
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For those of you who don't know, Iron Man is a comic-book featuring a billionare alcoholic playboy who wears a robot suit and fights crime, and it's being made into a movie. And while the comic itself has traditionally been kinda substandard, I have a feeling that the movie will kick massive ass... The reason? It's starring Robert Downey Jr.
That's right. They're making a movie about Robert Downey Jr wearing a robot suit and fighting crime while quaffing martinis and fingering supermodels. And from the trailer, it looks pretty cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhgzIM-9lfA. Yeah, not exactly highbrow or whatever, but it looks set to be pretty fun. Also: The role of Nick Fury will be played by Samuel L. Jackson. Which is completely awesome in many different ways.
EDIT: Miscellaneous info: It's directed by John Favreau, due out in April 30 2008, and is apparantly the first part of a trilogy of movies... While this movie deals with his orgin and fight against Obadiah Stane (Jeff Bridges), future movies will deal with the character's alcoholism, the introduction of War Machine, and the fight against the Mandarin.
Interestingly enough (or not, depending on how geeky you are), Downey Jr will apparantly also be playing this role in the upcoming Incredible Hulk movie AND the upcoming Avengers movie, due out after the Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor movies.
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IRON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My most anticipated movie of the year. Oh and Hulk too.
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So, when is this due out? Who is directing it? I realize I could look this up on wikipedia or whatever but if you are going to make a topic about a movie, try to be at least semi-detailed.
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i'm pretty sure it's going to suck but ghostface is in it (for like two seconds probably) so hellllll yeah
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Surely you jest, Roman.
This movie will definitely be top 5 of 2008, top 10 at least, and it's only downfall will be that ghostface even has his name in the credits.
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Surely you jest, Roman.
This movie will definitely be top 5 of 2008, top 10 at least, and it's only downfall will be that ghostface even has his name in the credits.
does not compute
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does not compute
THE DUDE IS IN THIS MOVIE.
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I was really pumped for this when I first heard about it, but over time it's starting to look worse then the original Hulk movie. Robert Downey Jr is one of my hero's so I'm gonna have to watch it but I know I'm gonna be disappointed.
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That Superbowl trailer was so cool, that last part in it alone makes this movie worth seeing haha.
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I'm not really a big fan of superhero movies other than Batman but I will see it on dvd just to see if they give Ghostface an ok role in the movie.
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I can't wait for this and then the Batman movie to follow? Damn, if people see me walking around the streets with either a cape or armor...they shouldn't wonder...but Ghostface in this? Oh yeah!
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Are you one of those people that made photoshop images of Samuel L Jackson saying some dumbshit line from Snakes on a Plane and repeatedly posted it randomly in terrible topics across the internet? Because I do not understand why you think the inclusion of Robert Downey Jr and/or Samuel L Jackson is significant or interesting.
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Ahh, this looks like a fun movie.
Robert Downey Jr. is a brilliant actor. Definitely going to see this...
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Are you one of those people that made photoshop images of Samuel L Jackson saying some dumbshit line from Snakes on a Plane and repeatedly posted it randomly in terrible topics across the internet? Because I do not understand why you think the inclusion of Robert Downey Jr and/or Samuel L Jackson is significant or interesting.
Nope, I'm not. I mentioned Robert Downey Jr because he's one of my favorite actors, and the fact that he's in the starring role is the main reason I'm interested in this movie. I mentioned Samuel L. Jackson because in the Ultimates comic book, the character Nick Fury mentions how he'd like to be played in a movie by "Mister Samuel L Jackson, of course". So his casting is kind of a shout-out to a great comic book. Also, for the record, Samuel L Jackson is an awesome actor, no matter how many retarded internet memes he spawns.
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Nope, I'm not. I mentioned Robert Downey Jr because he's one of my favorite actors, and the fact that he's in the starring role is the main reason I'm interested in this movie. I mentioned Samuel L. Jackson because in the Ultimates comic book, the character Nick Fury mentions how he'd like to be played in a movie by "Mister Samuel L Jackson, of course". So his casting is kind of a shout-out to a great comic book. Also, for the record, Samuel L Jackson is an awesome actor, no matter how many retarded internet memes he spawns.
Because Ultimate Nick Fury is BASED off Samuel L. Jackson anyway.
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Ahh, this looks like a fun movie.
Robert Downey Jr. is a brilliant actor. Definitely going to see this...
Robert Downey Jr. is a mediocre actor at best. I have only ever seen him play ONE character (smartmouthed playboy/wannabe playboy). I am skeptical as to how good this movie will be, but from what I have seen of the trailer and production notes, my gut is telling me its going be a fairly forgettable film (like Fantastic Four was).
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From the previews, this looks really good actually. I guess I will wait and see how it turns out though.
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Surely you jest, Roman.
This movie will definitely be top 5 of 2008, top 10 at least, and it's only downfall will be that ghostface even has his name in the credits.
ghostface is better than anyone else in the movie and was the original Tony Stark/Ironman.
including him is actually a really nice touch.
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Everything about this movie seems awesome with one exception: he can fly faster than jets. I know it's a stupid thing to be upset about, and I try not to care too much about realism, but come on. Where is the fuel source? How is he aerodynamic? Wouldn't the G-force fuck him up?
I just think it's stupid to make him seem realistic with his alcoholism and working in the Middle East, but then give him an ability that makes no sense at all. He'd be just as cool without the ability to fly, too.
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Everything about this movie seems awesome with one exception: he can fly faster than jets. I know it's a stupid thing to be upset about, and I try not to care too much about realism, but come on. Where is the fuel source? How is he aerodynamic? Wouldn't the G-force fuck him up?
it has multiple power sources, each not very large (as in size) because comic science is ahead of ours. he's not entirely aerodynamic but he doesn't really need to be considering the armor is made of vibranium or adamantium, the toughest metals on earth (which also solves the g-force issue) so he can zip along pretty fast without hitting a wall. the suit also has a forcefield which tends to negate most g-forces.
really in a movie where a guy chooses to build a giant metal robot to fight iraqi terrorists and your issue is with a few seconds of comic book flying.
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I know, it's a dumb issue to have with it. Really, the movie does look good. I like Robert Downey Jr., and I can't wait to see him in this and Tropic Thunder. I have high hopes for the movie.
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it has multiple power sources, each not very large (as in size) because comic science is ahead of ours. he's not entirely aerodynamic but he doesn't really need to be considering the armor is made of vibranium or adamantium, the toughest metals on earth (which also solves the g-force issue) so he can zip along pretty fast without hitting a wall. the suit also has a forcefield which tends to negate most g-forces.
really in a movie where a guy chooses to build a giant metal robot to fight iraqi terrorists and your issue is with a few seconds of comic book flying.
from the preview it seems he was stupid enough to leave the blue-prints behind for them to make 12 gaint robots..enough to rule all of the middle east. :fogetlaugh:
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I'm going to be seeing this opening night with a friend of mine who is a huge fan of the Iron Man comics. Personally I've never been big into super heroes and such, but I'm really looking forward to this release for some reason just the same.
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what?
whoops wrong topic lol
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I've read too much on this...
Robert Downey Jr. apparently is game for ten Iron Man movies. He reprises the role of Tony Stark in the upcoming Incredible Hulk even. The guy says he is really interested in this character. Maybe that's just for show because he needs the job? Whatever. So far, they want to make 3 Iron Man movies. So, we'll likely see some awesome shit with this.
Also: I love that freakin' mk1 suit. That thing is kick ass.
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Also the Marvel pictures plan is to get all these movies out and come out with a full on AVENGERS movie.
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Also the Marvel pictures plan is to get all these movies out and come out with a full on AVENGERS movie.
I read this too, and am having mixed feelings.
I just can't see RDJ and Edward Norton together, even though we'll see them together in May.
Top that off with the star of the Thor movie in the works, the Ant-Man from the said movie, and throw in Captain America... It just can't end well.
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Top that off with the star of the Thor movie in the works, the Ant-Man from the said movie, and throw in Captain America... It just can't end well.
Actually, Ant-Man's getting his own movie, not just the Avengers one. Seriously, an Ant-Man movie. In fact, pretty much every Marvel character is getting a movie: Sub-Mariner, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Deathlok... The problem is that since they're second-tier (well, fifth-tier) characters, they'll probably be getting relatively shoddy movies. For example, the guy directing the Iron Fist movie also directed Dr. Doolittle 2 and Daddy Day-Care... And they're making Jessica Jones black in the Luke Cage movie because interracial relationships are apparantly too edgy.
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The site I use to keep up is Superherohype.com, run by the comingsoon guys.
Apparently Thor has writers, Silver Surfer has a script, Captain America has writers, Ant-Man has a director, Luke Cage has a willing Tyrese Gibson, and Iron Fist has Ray Park. Marvel Studios can have rights to all these movies, but thank the fucking lord we're going to wait years before we even hear some of them in production.
Deathlok should never even be considered for a movie, though I vaguely remember an article about his movie being separated from the marvel universe.
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How are you guys getting pumped for this? It looks mediocre at best.
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Wow, they actually used the Iron man song, didn't see that coming.
But ya, it looks alright. Probably your average superhero movie, but those entertain me enough, so I will be seeing this along with the Dark Knight, Hulk, and all 60 other superhero movies that will be coming out in the next year or so. On a sidde note I could see an Aquaman movie being really, really terrible.
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On a sidde note I could see an Aquaman movie being really, really terrible.
There was a CW pilot called MERCY REEF starring Aquaman, which is basically what Smallville was to Superman. It didn't get picked up, but it uh, sucked ass. The fact that Arthur Curry was changed to the hip A.C. kinda tells you something.
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in the Ultimates comic book, the character Nick Fury mentions how he'd like to be played in a movie by "Mister Samuel L Jackson, of course".
Too bad he was played by David Hasselhoff in what is considered to be the worst movie of all time.... Nick Fury: Agent of Shield.
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Just watched this. It was great.
A bit too cheesy, but what the hell... It's a superhero movie... And the best one I've seen in a while.
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This has like 90% on RottenTomatoes...
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This movie was really really good.
Like, surprising good.
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i don't usually watch these movies but i think i will check this one out in the cinema.
edit: nah i won't
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I'm seeing this tomorrow
I am stoked
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I'm seeing this TODAY!
4 hours left......
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i've never read the comics or anything but this movie was kickass
bring on the next two movies
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dude this shit has 103 reviews and a 95 at rotten tomatoes.
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ok my roommate wants me to go see this with him tomorrow
this sounds like really gay comic stuff y/n
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i dont mind robert downey jr and the fact that this is getting inexplicably good reviews across the board piqued my curiosity, so i might check this out tomorrow!
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This looked like a really good movie. Anyone have any personal opinions yet?
--Terin
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wow i honestly expected this to be ok at best but apparently it's getting really good reviews AND it has ghostface in it so i guess it's a must see???
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AND it has ghostface in it so i guess it's a must see???
They cut his scene and Samuel L Jacksons.
Samuel I dont care about but Ghostface...
He did get a new track on the soundtrack though but seriously Ghostface has been Tony Starks since forever and he is a big fan of the comics and animated series, I think he deserved a cameo.
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I just saw a midnight opening, and holy shit maybe it's just me but it was insanely good. I thought Vantage Point was movie of the year but shit this is definitely up there.
If you see it, stay after the credits, the 2 secs of Samuel Jackson on screen are worth it.
I give it a 10/10.
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If you see it, stay after the credits, the 2 secs of Samuel Jackson on screen are worth it.
yes, do not walk out of the theater until the credits are done rolling.
i was pretty skeptical but holy shit this was the best comic book licensed movie i've seen and the dark knight has a serious contender. besides the fact that it was just really well done (not too corny, not too serious, just a nice balance of drama and humor and shit) the directing and writing and lines delivered by downey were pretty good. i don't even know why they're releasing the incredible hulk i can already tell that movie will suck dick compared to this one.
p.s. this movie, out of 120 or so reviews, has a FUCKING 96% RATING on rotten tomatoes. jesus christ. no country for old men has about 200 reviews with a 94% COULD IRON MAN WIN OSCARS???
also: I laughed for about 5 minutes when stark called stan lee "hugh heffner"
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yes, do not walk out of the theater until the credits are done rolling.
i was pretty skeptical but holy shit this was the best comic book licensed movie i've seen and the dark knight has a serious contender. besides the fact that it was just really well done (not too corny, not too serious, just a nice balance of drama and humor and shit) the directing and writing and lines delivered by downey were pretty good. i don't even know why they're releasing the incredible hulk i can already tell that movie will suck dick compared to this one.
p.s. this movie, out of 120 or so reviews, has a FUCKING 96% RATING on rotten tomatoes. jesus christ. no country for old men has about 200 reviews with a 94% COULD IRON MAN WIN OSCARS???
also: I laughed for about 5 minutes when stark called stan lee "hugh heffner"
Well... He WAS playing hugh... notice the girls and robe.
Either way, this movie was really good. I didn't stay 'til after the credits, I'm considering watching it again now.
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goddammit I can't believe they cut ghostface.
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I forgot to mention in my last post that I really liked the love play between stark and pepper. It would have been super easy to take the cheap Hollywood cliche and make them kiss or make out near the end complete with symphonic orchestra blaring in the background but it was a really "professional" relationship and even though it's obviously not platonic the writers did a good job downplaying it while still having some tension between them. I actually applauded when she was like "Oh yeah i do remember that time at the ball when you left me to get a drink and never came back... yeah...".
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goddammit I can't believe they cut ghostface.
I know, it basicially ruined my day when I heard about it haha
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Just saw it last night.
BEST. MOVIE. EVER
Superman was shit compared to this!
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10% thrust!
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Just saw it last night.
BEST. MOVIE. EVER
Superman was shit compared to this!
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10% thrust!
Not the cars! No!
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this was pretty good. three things I liked:
1. finally, PEOPLE FUCKING DYING IN SUPERHERO MOVIES. christ, iron man kills lots of terrorists.
2. it wasn't as AMERICA FUCK YEA as I thought it might be, and was in fact kind of balanced.
3. I really liked how they finally captured the real reason people in comics become superheros. it isn't because some parent dies, but because they see something on tv, and most people are helpless, and they are not. that was the best part of the movie for me by a long shot.
heres some cameo shit only faggots like me catch
-the scene at the end of the credits featuring a familiar face is based on the Ultimates line of comic books, where the character and the actor playing him look the exact same (thus the joke)
-the awards acceptance and several other musical themes are old Iron Man animated series songs
-the Ten Rings is a reference to the Mandarin, Iron Man's nemesis in the comics, who will probably be in a later movie!
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-the Ten Rings is a reference to the Mandarin, Iron Man's nemesis in the comics, who will probably be in a later movie!
I originally thought the bald terrorist (Yinsen or whatever) was going to become the Mandarin or something. Obidiah was ALWAYS seen fingering this massive ring and I assumed that Yinsen would kill him, take the ring, and it would reveal the locations of the other ones or something. I knew they were going to show something after the credits and half expected to see someone in a high back chair watching the news then spinning around as the camera zooms in on his ring covered fingers.
But the actual ending scene itself was 10x better.
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nah, Yinsen was the doctor, the terrorist was either unnamed or I forgot it (I think I read it's Raza). the Mandarin also has all ten rings!
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whoah whoah wait a minute
STEEL ACTUALLY LIKED A BLOCKBUSTER HOLLYWOOD MOVIE?
it's gonna start raining frogs soon
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this be tight yo
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I went to the cinema with in what was pretty much a triple date, and the men were all geeks (And some of the girls too) and we were all thinking the same shit about the Mandarin and all...
I didn't notice the music, though... Been ages since I last watched the Iron Man cartoon.
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I was going to rebutt the mainstream movie thing and say I ALSO LIKED and then had nothing in the past three years sooooo.
also I only knew it because ghostface sampled it in some intro song.
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Really great movie! So far one of the best comic book movies ever I think, and by far better than the craphouse that was Spider-man 3. Robert Downey was really convincing and funny, and I was actually staring open-mouthed at some of the scenes, like the cool techno ones. The final battle was cool but a tiny bit anticlimactic, but after the credits... Great jesus.
Also steel the reason they look alike is because the makers behind the Ultimates comic line actually asked Samuel Jackson if they could use his likeness for this character, and he basically said 'fuck yes'. So not only was it a badass thing to do artistically but they were covered for the movies, too.
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I didn't actually get to hear what Sam Jackson says, because as soon as he came into the shot, everyone in the theatre erupted in applause. And since I went to the midnight showing, of course EVERYONE there was a nerd and stayed till after the credits.
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guys how major was the ghostface cameo? i can't really see caring that much about like ONE SCENE where ghostface says a line and then leaves. or, was he supposed to be a main character?
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I didn't actually get to hear what Sam Jackson says, because as soon as he came into the shot, everyone in the theatre erupted in applause. And since I went to the midnight showing, of course EVERYONE there was a nerd and stayed till after the credits.
"'I am Iron Man'. Mr. Stark, you aren't the only hero around here. Let me tell you about the Avengers Initiative."
Not the exact quote but pretty close.
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So wait a fucking minute here. Is this good?
I don't just mean good compared to Hulk I mean is it a good movie?
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So wait a fucking minute here. Is this good?
I don't just mean good compared to Hulk I mean is it a good movie?
Yes. It is currently the best film of this year and it's probably the best mainstream Hollywood film of the past 5 years. I think a 96% on Rotten Tomatoes is a testament of its greatness but you always have that jackass or two that says "argumentum ad populum LOL"
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So wait a fucking minute here. Is this good?
I don't just mean good compared to Hulk I mean is it a good movie?
most entertaining film i've watched in quite awhile.
RDJ makes a surprisingly good Tony Stark.
like i went "lol...rdj as tony stark? what?" at first, and went in expecting AT LEAST slightly worse than Spiderman 1 (which was so-so as a movie, but good for a superhero movie imo), and got something better than every superhero movie made in the last 5 years combined times 10.
it's so good that even if you don't like super-hero movies/iron-man i guarentee you will enjoy it.
edit: then again, technically Tony Stark isn't a super hero, since he has no actual super powers. super hero-esque then.
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I... thought SLJ's cameo was pretty, uh, shit actually. I groaned at it more than anything, but I suppose this is because I hate th e man.
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man he's fucking Nick Fury and he's talking about the Avengers how gay are you.
also one of the cooler things is how dialogue is a little SNAPPY/WITTY but also natural; people interrupt each other and don't get to finish their jokes or whatever. also it's kind of funny! a lot of it LOL HE FELL but yeah, it is funny.
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This movie was absolutely brilliant.
Robert Downey, Jr. was absolutely perfect for the role and he played it perfectly. The supporting cast is also top notch and fit perfectly into the movie.
The actual "Iron Man" scenes are some of the best special effects i've seen. I couldn't tell the CGI from the ILM created robots that they used, i seriously spent the whole time trying to tell. The whole movie made me want to build myself an Iron Man suit, I mean... it should be some what possible (besides the flying and AI)...
10% Thrust was one of the best parts of a movie ever and the Flame dowsing dialog that ensued was absolutely genius.
Fuck, any way - this movie is amazing, every one go see it, you will absolutely not be disappointed.
10/10
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Obviously pretty gay! I just get tired of Samuel L Jackson playing Samuel L Jackson in every fucking movie. He's his own character. Not that Nick Fury isn't awesome (thank christ they didn't get the Hoff back), but I just hold a large quantity of hatred for Samuel L Jackson.
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Obviously pretty gay! I just get tired of Samuel L Jackson playing Samuel L Jackson in every fucking movie. He's his own character. Not that Nick Fury isn't awesome (thank christ they didn't get the Hoff back), but I just hold a large quantity of hatred for Samuel L Jackson.
I understand this entirely but
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Obviously pretty gay! I just get tired of Samuel L Jackson playing Samuel L Jackson in every fucking movie. He's his own character. Not that Nick Fury isn't awesome (thank christ they didn't get the Hoff back), but I just hold a large quantity of hatred for Samuel L Jackson.
Sam Jackson is Nick Fury you punk!
The ending thing was still pretty gay, if only because I knew Tony was joining the Avengers in the movies anyways. Just kinda pointless.
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Because of this movie I have been inspired to build a suit of my own. I'll be called Pottery Man.
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Man DN that logic doesn't work at all! Would you consider Batman a superhero?
Also Tony Stark is pretty much a technological genius so I consider that a super power anyway.
ALSO also yeah 10% thrust was pretty awesome, I wasn't expecting that. I really liked his line "Yeah... I can fly", especially since we saw it in the trailer and it was executed pretty coolly.
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Much against the hype, I thought this movie would have been torrid trash acting mingled with cheesy fight scenes, but I am glad to admit that I misjudged the movie completely. It was a very competent, if not quite incredible, take on a summer super hero film.
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Man, its nice seeing everyone at GW "agreeing" on something for once! Very refreshing and doesn't happen often!
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they did my favorite super hero character great justice! I loved it. 9/10
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I just got back from this... and it was AWESOME!
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i liked it but fuck do i hate people in movie theaters
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Man DN that logic doesn't work at all! Would you consider Batman a superhero?
Also Tony Stark is pretty much a technological genius so I consider that a super power anyway.
ALSO also yeah 10% thrust was pretty awesome, I wasn't expecting that. I really liked his line "Yeah... I can fly", especially since we saw it in the trailer and it was executed pretty coolly.
no, technically he is a costumed crimefighter.
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i liked it but fuck do i hate people in movie theaters
exactly this
jesuschrist the people in front of me were so fucking annoying, especially during the previews
I didn't know ANYTHING about the comic or the movie before seeing this, and I was very pleasantly surprised. The dialogue was really interesting and clever, especially at the beginning of the movie. Everything was well made and just FUN to watch. I liked the modernity of everything.
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exactly this
jesuschrist the people in front of me were so fucking annoying, especially during the previews
I didn't know ANYTHING about the comic or the movie before seeing this, and I was very pleasantly surprised. The dialogue was really interesting and clever, especially at the beginning of the movie. Everything was well made and just FUN to watch. I liked the modernity of everything.
When I saw it at opening, there were beach balls being thrown around and people were laying around in the stairs and aisles. It all calmed down during the movie though.
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yeah i liked the humor in this. some of it was predictable (like his robot and the fire extinguisher) but a lot of it is snarky and wittier than what you'd get from a usual superhero flick.
especially the end with pepper where you think she's going to fall heads over heels with him but she throws out that great line.
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Yeah it was a damn good movie and Downey fit the role pretty nicely, its the best superhero movie I've seen yet.
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i liked it but fuck do i hate people in movie theaters
UGH I KNOW.
I had the misfortunate of sitting next to a guy that LAUGHED OUT LOUD (ALONE) at the scene where Tony and Pepper almost kiss. I couldn't believe it. Is there any more of an inappropriate time to laugh in this film?!
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Is there any more of an inappropriate time to laugh in this film?!
when the Afghani terrorists are filming their "decapitation-esque" terrorist video that Peppers finds on the computer
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I went to a matinee showing, and I'm glad I did in a way. It was cheaper, but notably the theatre was pretty much empty except for my friends and myself. There was one annoying guy who sat in front of me and kept bumping into my legs a few times, but it didn't really bother me once I started really getting into the movie.
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Yeah, I should've gone earlier, but it takes until late in the day to go anywhere at all. The show I saw was at around seven and honestly it was just fucking packed. Not just packed, though, packed with nerds. They laughed at the dumbest, least funny shit, and not only did they laugh, they CHEERED. Like when Tony flies back into the wall or whatever during that test, the entire theater erupted into YEAAAAAH WOOOOOO, and they did the same when he felt through the house onto that car and then.... got hosed down (lol finishing touch). For like 15 seconds they'd just cheer. Also I stayed after the credits because I knew SOMETHING happened and had to sit through six minutes of credits while hearing a debate between nerds about what rating the Punisher should've gotten, and why there wasn't anything wrong with X-Men 3, until finally the part with Jackson came and as soon as his face came out of the shadows you just heard like two dozen nerds go wild. Like clearly the type of people you find in WoW making Chuck Norris and Snakes on a Plane jokes. fkdjsfakjf i hate them so much
The movie ended with him saying something about the Avengers and they didn't even cheer, they just.... all came in their pants. No yells or claps, just OHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAHs and DUUUUUUUUUUDEs. Like they were clearly getting physical pleasure from a Samuel L Jackson cameo where he mentions the Avengers. I hate seeing movies in theaters, but I hate seeing movies in theaters with nerds so so so so so much more.
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Just saw this tonight and thought it was really good. It had a great plot and focused on only a few characters so the you will got in touch with them, which is important in every film imo. Robert Downey Jr was great. I think it was him that really sold the film. The special effects were outstanding and the ending was one of the coolest things hollywood has done in a while. There were a few plot holes, namely him getting away with making the suit in the cave for 3 months un-noticed, but I let this slide as it's a super-hero film.
Hopefully the sequel will be as good as this. I'm a little worried though as I think this movie was great becuase there wasn't actual much of the Iron Man fighting shit and more about the characters and story. Hopefully the sequel will have a new spin on things so it isn't just Iron Man fighting for the whole film like in Spiderman 3
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What gets me about this movie is that Tony Stark makes very mean and inappropriate comments throughout the entire movie, yet you are still pulled to his side. Some things he says aren't even totally mean, but the way he says them just seems offensive, but no one reacts, as if they are used to it maybe?
But maybe it's because the "i finally know what I have to do" speech that turns it around, because I was rooting for him the whole time, no doubt.
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What gets me about this movie is that Tony Stark makes very mean and inappropriate comments throughout the entire movie, yet you are still pulled to his side. Some things he says aren't even totally mean, but the way he says them just seems offensive, but no one reacts, as if they are used to it maybe?
But maybe it's because the "i finally know what I have to do" speech that turns it around, because I was rooting for him the whole time, no doubt.
not really?
he's a womanizer, all he did was flirt.
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he did kind of have sex with loads of women and treat them without any respect at all, he was kind of a bad dude.
he's also an alcoholic which they somewhat downplay.
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yeah when i told my brother he should check it out, he said he'd seen the director doing some interview where he was talking about how it wouldn't just be a light-hearted superhero movie, and instead focus on his alcoholism and shit, so he was disappointed when i told him it didn't take itself very seriously. that was the first time i'd heard anything about alcoholism or anything like that!
also yeah the guy was a dick. he disappeared and had that woman escorted out of his house after his personal assistant called her trash instead of saying WELL I GOTTA GO CALL YA like a decent human being.
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One night stands are a pretty standard thing, especially if you have to get up in the morning.
I was referring to little comments like "Vacation is over" to Pepper Potts when he returns from Afghanistan. (no spoilers, it's in the trailer) Obviously that's just one instance, but come on, that's kinda harsh to the closest person to him in the world.
Like I said though, at some point he came full circle and had me won over.
ps, they touch on the alcoholism a tad, specifically the scene i mentioned above, but favreau has said himself that he wants to do the demon in a bottle storyline in one of the other two movies.
Also:
Marvel Entertainment released their first quarter report to its shareholders this morning to coincide with the announcement about the success this past weekend of Marvel Studios' first production Iron Man, which grossed an estimated $104.2 million domestically and over $201 million worldwide. The announcement included an update of Marvel Studios' feature film slate with the already-rumored Iron Man 2 announced for a release on April 30, 2010, followed by three more movies for the summers of '10 and '11. Matthew Vaughn's Thor is set for a release on June 4, 2010, and The First Avenger: Captain America (the working title) will kick off the summer of 2011 on May 6, followed by the highly-anticipated and foreshadowed The Avengers scheduled for July 2011. (Edgar Wright's Ant-Man is also listed as being in development with no release date set.)
In a conference call this morning, Marvel Studios' David Maisel said that Iron Man 2 will be used to introduce Thor. Regarding more "Hulk" movies, Maisel said "We definitely plan on continuing." He added that development continues on Spider-Man 4. "I can't give any other updates other than to say it's in development and everybody's excited about 'Spider-Man 4,'" he said.
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I thought this would be shit after seeing a medieval-looking suit knock down a metal door to Black Sabbath's Iron Man in the trailer, and then some guy in a stupid superhero suit flying around and fighting jet planes.
But hot damn people are all over this even moer than like... GTA4. I'm seeing this shit. Am I right in expecting:
- stupid plot so some guy in an iron suit can kill terrorists
- ACTION ACTION DIE DIE BURN HECK FIRE
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Shit they better not make Spider-man 4.
Also the 'end of vacation' comment seemed like a joke, I don't think he was serious!
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One night stands are a pretty standard thing, especially if you have to get up in the morning.
doing it like that is not. and let's not forget the fact he prided himself on having sex with all these women and not giving a shit about them afterwards.
he's kind of supposed to be established as an asshole, this isn't really a debate.
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yeah, I mean Downey Jr even said the toughest challenge was making his character, who is an asshole be a likeable character. His tone, isn't 'cuntish', but the you can tell he's a player. Saying this, I think that reporter deserved to be tossed out, she was a bitch.
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how was she a bitch? she's a reporter, and she doesn't ask fluff questions. she was mean to Pepper so she's a bitch? let's also not forget that the only reason his character talked to her was because she's "attractive" and the entire time he flirts with her and she's clearly not having it (but then they do it indicating that he's an asshole but also a charming one which was the point as we established).
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i haven't seen this yet but i bet she is a bitch because she's willful and snarky
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get the fuck outta my press conference with that shit
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is tony stark gonn have to choke a bitch lol
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also I just remembered the worst part of the movie.
it's when he first wakes up and he pulls that thing out of his nose and everyone goes EWWWWWWWW and it's clearly for that purpose and I died a little.
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it's when he first wakes up and he pulls that thing out of his nose and everyone goes EWWWWWWWW and it's clearly for that purpose and I died a little.
Lol, so you try not to respond the way the director wants you to?
I definitely said "Ew," I mean shit, it was gross.
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no it's just stupid pandering bullshit and really didn't have a place in the movie.
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Fortunately it was also a short enough moment that I didn't even remember it until you mentioned it.
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so I was reading Filthy's review of this and while he and I usually agree I couldn't help but think he was being a wee bit critical with his arguments, but one of them was something I didn't think of and now feel stupid about.
why DID Obadiah hate Stark? I mean they are fucking business partners, he's making a lot of money, Stark was building fucktons of weapons BEFORE Obadiah had him kidnapped, and in general Obadiah could have killed Stark there or taken his share without getting some terrorist fuckheads to do it.
kind of doesn't make sense.
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idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over. like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!
also i don't know i didn't really see how him pulling the shit out of his nose was STUPID PANDERING BULLSHIT or whatever. no one in the theater i was in even reacted and i just thought it was kinda gross but there to sort of convey how freaked out you'd feel if you were to wake up and find that someone operated on you.
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idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over. like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!
This.
I'm surprised Obadiah didn't say something like "I've been in you're shadow for too long!" or something, but that presentation at the beginning of the movie, where they show Obadiah in some magazines, and then behind Tony in a bunch more, clearly conveys the idea.
That said, they really didn't elaborate at all on why Stane wanted anyone kidnapped and killed at all. We do know that Stane did not tell them who they were going to kill, as they made the video demanding more money. Also, was it in the plan to have Stark build the Jericho missile in the cave? Or was it the terrorists seizing the opportunity of having Tony unexpectedly? It also could have been Stane trying to push Tony to build something by putting him in the situation, though it's doubtful because Rhodes was with him when he was abducted. It also could have been something to do with getting the jericho missile TO the terrorists, (if they didn't get them from Stark Industries, Tony cuold make a prototype himself) as we didn't know of the dirty dealing until after Tony was back.
You have to assume the director and writers have these things done up, but probably didn't come out well enough in the movie. I didn't think of this until a few days later either, but I think the movie did well enough to keep me occupied both times (saw it twice lol), that a hole like this didn't stick out very much.
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I saw it on Monday, and it's my new favorite Marvel movie. I liked it more than Spiderman, and I'm a huge Spiderman fan!
I have an interesting approach to watching movies. While everyone follows the actors and the previous films they were in. And they analyze the movie to the Nth degree, I do the exact opposite. I barely know who Robert Downey Jr. IS, and I couldn't tell you another movie he was in. With few exceptions, it's the same with all actors. When I go see a movie, I see it with a blank slate. I take it all in the way it was meant to be viewed, free of previous knowledge of how one actor was in some other role. As far as I'm concerned, when I'm watching a movie, I'm not watching Downey Jr as IRON MAN. I'm fucking watching Tony Stark becoming fucking Iron Man.
This Hollywood ignorance is fully intentional. I prefer it that way. Look at movie critics, they hate everything. It's because they know every actor and role, they've seen it all way too many times, and now they're jaded.
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YES! That is how movies SHOULD be seen, and I think certain qualities of this movie make it successful because of that.
I am very glad that even the crabasses you mentioned, who go into a movie ready to hate it because of the people involved, liked Iron Man.
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I saw it on Monday, and it's my new favorite Marvel movie. I liked it more than Spiderman, and I'm a huge Spiderman fan!
I have an interesting approach to watching movies. While everyone follows the actors and the previous films they were in. And they analyze the movie to the Nth degree, I do the exact opposite. I barely know who Robert Downey Jr. IS, and I couldn't tell you another movie he was in. With few exceptions, it's the same with all actors. When I go see a movie, I see it with a blank slate. I take it all in the way it was meant to be viewed, free of previous knowledge of how one actor was in some other role. As far as I'm concerned, when I'm watching a movie, I'm not watching Downey Jr as IRON MAN. I'm fucking watching Tony Stark becoming fucking Iron Man.
This Hollywood ignorance is fully intentional. I prefer it that way. Look at movie critics, they hate everything. It's because they know every actor and role, they've seen it all way too many times, and now they're jaded.
this is pretty dumb.
see I don't think I've seen anything with Robert Downey Jr. in it or if I have I don't know (other than THE SHAGGY DOG), but I don't go into a movie predicting YES IT WILL BE GREAT IT WILL BE TONY STARK but rather the facts of the movie have to present themselves. I'm pretty sure most critics don't go into stuff thinking HMMM THIS ACTOR, although it does help form a critical review because you can say "he's doing the same character again and it's pretty boring" because a wider sense of context is useful.
no on is watching Robert Downey Jr play Iron Man but I think if you don't believe the character is real, I don't care what the movie says, they aren't anyone interesting or good. like the Man from Earth guy couldn't act at all and that ruins his character. there's a blank slate and then there's deliberate ignorance of context and ability.
idk i assumed it was some comic book related thing that the movie didn't cover, but i thought it seemed kind of like he maybe had his parents killed to take over the company, or even if he didn't, he felt he had a right to the company after stark's father died, and was probably resentful of tony coming in as a like 22 year old and taking over. like, this should all be mine............... and instead he is clearly in stark's shadow!
also i don't know i didn't really see how him pulling the shit out of his nose was STUPID PANDERING BULLSHIT or whatever. no one in the theater i was in even reacted and i just thought it was kinda gross but there to sort of convey how freaked out you'd feel if you were to wake up and find that someone operated on you.
it probably was the whole shadow thing but they never actually establish it. and also, Obadiah was already doing under the table shit, making ducats, I just don't see why he went through this elaborate plan to have terrorists kidnap a man and have him build a bomb Obadiah would probably give them anyways.
also I guess I can buy the "freaked out" thing but everyone in the audience going AAHAHAHHA EWWWWW made me feel kind of "ugh" about the whole scene. at least with ITS TIME FOR IRONMAN VS...UPGRADED IRONMAN... there was a sense of inevitability attached even if it was a dumb fight scene that we all knew was coming.
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why DID Obadiah hate Stark? I mean they are fucking business partners, he's making a lot of money, Stark was building fucktons of weapons BEFORE Obadiah had him kidnapped, and in general Obadiah could have killed Stark there or taken his share without getting some terrorist fuckheads to do it.
Greed. Makes people do stupid things. I just figured he was tired of following around this arrogant fuckhead. The way he talked with the bald terrorist it was almost like they knew each other already (most likely how they got the weapons in the first place) so I'm guessing Obadiah was just like "heh kill two birds with one stone; get rid of Stark and make it look like a terrorist activity."
Think of it like this: war initially boosts the economy because spending goes up. The military buys stark technology, terrorists buy stark technology. One side grows stronger, the other side needs to compensate for the increase in power. Stark Industries practically has a monopoly on the weapons share and no one fucking notices because half the deals are done under the table.
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Think of it like this: war initially boosts the economy because spending goes up. The military buys stark technology, terrorists buy stark technology. One side grows stronger, the other side needs to compensate for the increase in power. Stark Industries practically has a monopoly on the weapons share and no one fucking notices because half the deals are done under the table.
This is a huge gamble though, because if anyone found out that terrorists were obtaining Stark weapons, Stark would be taking HUGE losses.
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no one notices because even though we have fucking satellites everywhere and shit we can't even see a bunch of fucking boxes in the open with the words STARK INDUSTRIES on them
comic books.
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man he's fucking Nick Fury and he's talking about the Avengers how gay are you.
also one of the cooler things is how dialogue is a little SNAPPY/WITTY but also natural; people interrupt each other and don't get to finish their jokes or whatever. also it's kind of funny! a lot of it LOL HE FELL but yeah, it is funny.
oh wow what's that it's like a little device it's like a thing that'll pick the lock
you might wanna take a few steps back
the dialogue with the robots and jarvis was pretty STARWARS EPISODE 1 also
here's a gay reference that i think most people would have gotten: black army guy is war machine and says 'next time baby' or something looking at a spare set of iron man armor
also this is nick fury
(http://www.hillcity-comics.com/models/DEC052706.jpg)
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This is a huge gamble though, because if anyone found out that terrorists were obtaining Stark weapons, Stark would be taking HUGE losses.
I assumed they took it from American soldiers. America gave Afghanistan weapons and trained their soldiers 20 years ago and everyone knows that pretty much every terrorist cell and freedom fighter uses second hand weapons that developed countries no longer want and sell off. Besides, there's usually a middle man (arms dealer) that has a contract with a weapons distributor and it's up to him to determine who he sells it to.
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oh wow what's that it's like a little device it's like a thing that'll pick the lock
you might wanna take a few steps back
the dialogue with the robots and jarvis was pretty STARWARS EPISODE 1 also
here's a gay reference that i think most people would have gotten: black army guy is war machine and says 'next time baby' or something looking at a spare set of iron man armor
also this is nick fury
thats the old nick fury and he was huge gay.
new nick fury rules okkk
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I think the only real complaint about the movie I have is that Jarvis was a computer, which was completely necessary for Gwyneth Paltrow to take a lead role.
The only reason I'd even mention it is because The Avengers movie just won't be the same with Jarvis.
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i saw this today and yeah it wasn't terrible. one thing in particular i liked was that at no point did iron man sweep from the skies and rescue pepper from the evil mastermind. i mean she got pretty fucked up near the end, standing in one spot for about 10 minutes screaming "tony omigod!!!" but i kind of read that as a pisstake of damsels? there didn't turn it on it's head though, it was just really over the top and pepper was pretty cool everywhere else.
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also this is nick fury
Dude you got continuity fucked up man.
At the moment there are TWO MAJOR marvel universes. Mainstream (Earth-616) and ultimate marvel (Earth-1610).
Earth 616 is where Nick Fury is a white guy who went underground after Secret War, put together a secret super group to fight skrulls, w/e. Ultimate is the one where Nick Fury's likeness is based off Samuel L. Jackson.
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no one notices because even though we have fucking satellites everywhere and shit we can't even see a bunch of fucking boxes in the open with the words STARK INDUSTRIES on them
comic books.
1. satillites are useless if you don't know where to look (the military didn't just show up around where stark was...the explosion gave off a heat signature.)
2. Did you not notice that the boxes were covered with some kind of man made canopy?
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Saw this yesterday. I was underwhelmed frankly. I'm not a huge robot-fight fan, and even in that light, I would have liked to see Iron Man kick more ass. Movie-wise, it was alright. Robert Downey Jr. was great for the role imo. I don't care about whatever the hell his personal life entails.
However, the whole movie was like a prelude. It had some fun action, some technogeek dream house, some oddly placed Jeff Bridges acting, and on the whole I enjoyed watching it. I say "underwhelmed" because the whole movie I was anticipating the kickass Iron Man song to come on, like in the commercial. It was like... this ticking time bomb waiting to go off, and never did. Made me kinda sad.
As far as comic geekery goes, I have no clue who Iron Man is aside minor information here and there. It's still pretty sweet that Downey Jr is going to continue his portrayal of Tony Stark. That'll really start to tie these Marvel flicks together. Too bad most actors have silly things on their minds, like "career" when opting out of a series. :(
What else? Oh right, I played the Iron Man demo on PS3, and that... really sorta ruined the 'cool factor' of this movie. Which is unfortunate.
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I would have liked to see Iron Man kick more ass.
He kicked a ton of ass when you realize he killed a ton of people.
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also the Black Sabbath Iron Man song plays at the credits
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Dude you got continuity fucked up man.
At the moment there are TWO MAJOR marvel universes. Mainstream (Earth-616) and ultimate marvel (Earth-1610).
Earth 616 is where Nick Fury is a white guy who went underground after Secret War, put together a secret super group to fight skrulls, w/e. Ultimate is the one where Nick Fury's likeness is based off Samuel L. Jackson.
which one is the movie based on? normal iron man or x-treme iron man?
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neither, but its clear the reference is to the ultimates.
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the rest of the movie is much closer to the original story arc so it's not me who has the continuity messed up.
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:rolleyes: climbtree
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it's pretty obvious why he's in here, now you're just trolling.
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Great film, I found it to have a huge parallelism with Batman Begins.
Dig the Downey Jr.